July 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Hey Lil Momma's here's another classic episode! Are mustaches always associated with white pedophiles? Does the lack of a mustache imply the same thing for black men? If anything, either situation is questionable. Langston and David sit down with Steelo Brim (MTV's Ridiculousness) on this polarizing conspiracy theory. Langston commends Lil Bow Wow for being the Logan Roy of durags, and we ask you to see that we are men who bleed, and have technical difficulties sometimes.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Here's what I love about Marcus Houston. He's been able
to take a significant fashion l in every single era. WHOA,
that's true what you're about to bring up. I'm about
to bring up the clear suit. I know what you're
about to bring up, obvious sigendary pre COVID. I five
(00:26):
before the towers fell. Like me, I think we still
had the tower. I think he was still dating Beyonce
when he did that. He was like people never bring yet.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think he was in a clear suit smashing Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So you know, I can't believe she let up.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I like to think that Marcus's never actually smashed Beyonce,
and it makes me feel better.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I also would like to he is a queen, and
I'd like to know that she did not do that.
Get your clear hands off of me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Listen, I play chess. Sometimes queens make bad moves.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You got rethink yourself. Baby, girls are racist.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
The layers, the money, our stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I can't tell me. Give me that doggy button and
big old legs. Welcome back to another episode of My
Mama Doon me the.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Fine gast, But we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And we work to prove that the tea in T
Pain does not in fact stand for tallahassee, it stands
for Trautman, as in his real father, Roger Troutman of
Staff and Roger a pioneer of the vocoder a k A.
The fucking voice thing that T. Paint does. He is
(02:03):
in fact a nepo. Baby. It was not on him,
It was in him the whole time. Y'all wake up
and David Boren and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm Langston Kerman, and I'm stunned at this revelation. You're
saying that he had a silver auto tuner in his
mouth when he was born.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He was born with it in his mouth. You thought
he invented that shit. Come on, baby, he.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And he cried, beautiful, just that was.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That was He grew up to the sounds of so rough,
so tough, in the city of good old Watts.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
If it's true, devastating, truly, we've all been rooting for T.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Paint.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I think in part because of we thought he got
it up for you know what I mean, he was
doing it from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He did like he got it out the mud. I
was like rapper turned singer.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like, I get it, Come on, man, but no pains
out here, just just you didn't even hear them.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You didn't even hear the whole conspiracy theory. Roger Troutman
was killed by Larry Troutman, who was also percussions in
the Zap band. I think it was a beef over
t Paine's mom and the illegitimate son whoa to hot
right now? I'm too hot, too hot, I'm too hot
(03:17):
right now, motherfucking boys. Nothing about that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's this is heavy dog. I don't even I think
we would have to do a different day.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a different day. Hey, you might notice that the
audio fucked up.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, listen, We're not a perfect show. There are high
jinks every week with this, with this program, mostly I
would just say on David and Ice.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Part yes.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That if there is an issue with the show is
usually David or Eye's fault or my my fault. And
and we're we're not proud of that, but we're not
gonna We're not gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Hide from it. We are not We are not men
who pretend like we are not flawed. No, you, if
you cut us, do we not bleed?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
We bleed, and we we bleed a lot and.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
If you played Chatshaw, do we not slide.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
One hop this time?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, not Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But unfortunately, due to some technical difficulties, this episode has
sort of we we we've had some hijinks. We lost
the first little segment of the show, and we assure you,
dear listener, that it was hilarious, the really funny shit
inside of this motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know, you would have loved it. Remember the first
time you saw that Patti LaBelle rolling on the Floorida video.
That's what you would have done, as you heard the
first time. But you but it's gone.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now, it's gone. There's nothing we can do about it.
It's it's lost in the ether, lost in the sands
of time. But here's the good news. Our guest is
a phenomenal talent, a hilarious person, a man who you
know best from from his podcast one and We, but
(05:09):
you probably know him best from from being one of
the co hosts of the long running show, maybe the
longest running show.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And it's like that in General Hospital.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think I don't think I dare to say there's
nothing longer. It's it's that show General Hospital, The Simpsons
and c Span I think that the those four are
are the sort of Mount Rushmore of long running shows.
But he's one of the co hosts of Ridiculousness. He's
a hilarious man, a dear friend, and and we're we're
(05:42):
we're gonna jump straight to the research section of this episode.
So don't be thrown off by the sort of weird
cutting and pasting if you if it would were.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Because you know what, that's just show business. And honestly,
you're lucky to have us. So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What the we could be anywhere right now?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Bro? You don't think I could have been working for
fucking all State Life right now. I could have been
a term life God, I could have had equity. I'm
here talking to you losers because of art.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I would be putting a tire in some water and
telling you where the hole is right now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Come on, you don't think my man would have been
a big o' savant. Quit playing with me.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But our guest, he's hilarious. Give it up for stel
Low brim everybody steel.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Amazing. You came to a.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Steel with a conspiracy that that I would argue also
is gonna be up for some debate as falls into reality,
not by me. Hey, I'm not pushing back, baby, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We're all good over here. I'm not pushing back. But
I dare say you are going to upset certain gentlemen
in our community. You said, my mama told me never
trust a black man without a mustache or a white
man with one.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
They're both pedophiles. Steel O.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I did a bunch of research on your conspiracy that
I would love to unpack with you. Now I think
I think you're it's it's some pretty promising research. It
was far more information than I expected to be able
to find. I thought that this was just be like speculation,
but now there seems to be some real research behind
(07:35):
this motherfucker. So what's especially interesting is that apparently the
associations of mustaches and pedophiles is much more contemporary than
we actually realize. I thought this was like something that
dated back millennia, and shit.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I thought it was like the forties fifties.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
See, I even that seems like a thing. But apparently
the August of two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Is I started the rumor started this three for sure.
And you know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The article said steel brim was walking around his high
school calling niggas pedophiles when they had no facial hair.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know, those people did turn out to be pedophiles.
That's there and that's and that's where that's see research,
you gotta do your I just spoke it into them
and now you're right. Now, I got to explore this.
Don't put that on yourself. Don't put that right? You're right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Why is Stelo saying this every day? Maybe I gotta
unpack this. I will say that. So August of two
thousand and three is sort of like its first appearance
in sort of like the the public lexicon, right the
innerne they said. They said, it first appears apparently Urban
Urban Dictionary. I'm a being man, I love a sweet being.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Uh, they said.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
The definition on Urban Dictionary first stat this was their
first definition of it was a person who is genetically
predispositioned to have upper lip hair, usually accompanied by aviator sunglasses,
police issue gloves, and a pedophilia like stare down.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's him.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Just when you're talking about like after that mass a guy.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't need to see no other pictures.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know I have a few questions. Even as far
as his research, goes yay. One was urbandctionary dot com invented?
Oh my boy did that? My boy did that in
science class? I think that's what I'm saying. So it
was like if it was because if this was when
(10:00):
the site was new, there had to be a term
of it catching up to previous pop culture ideas where
they were filling in the blank. It had been prevalent
for years. That's just when they put.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It on that this is some ship that came out
in eighty six, But we didn't get hipped to it
till two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's because the because the website came up in Lato too,
they were still just back feeling, all right, what urban
slang do we need to put on there?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Because urban Nicknare's ninety nine myself?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Guys, did you just say the will endium?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, that's how I measured time is myself. I'm I'm
twenty three years old past the millennium.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You know what I mean? You have that album? You
had that album? Oh? I had that? Of course. I
had that album that was Friends and that was his
favorite album.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Come on, man, that was.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You like that album better than Big Willie Style? It
wasn't talking we're talking.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
No, it wasn't about better or worse. It was about
inspiration and that nigga was inspiring me in ninety nine.
There was nobody else that could inspire me more.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Than will A great year.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
He was, he was killing it in ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Man, was that meant? Was that when Miami came out?
Or was that before?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's post Miami Miami?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I think it was Willennium, Yeah, what's well?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I give me a second. He had that song,
and I think it was with Cisco. I want to
say he had it was No, it was with k
C and he had that song.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah yeah, well wow Wow West was the first single
release for Willennio. Yeah, song was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Then he had Will two K, which is crazy, and
then he had Freaking It come out Freaking What was
on that?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't even remember freaking it? But come on, my
boy was My boy was being sexy for the last time?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Come on, No, he was. He was sexy on Big
Willie Style. I don't know why I'm going so hard
for Big Willy Style. That was a great record. What
you mean? It was clearly written by Nash Well certain
certain songs, for sure, there were if we can snicker
all night on my Jolly Ranch. Well Smith didn't write that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, I didn't write that down.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He liked it, though, I take him a little longer,
but he got that. He just had to sit in
there with shoot on a cigar and listen to the beat.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So I will say it sounds like you boys are
not in tune with the possibility of this two thousand
and three start date. But I will say that additionally,
what they plane is that in two thousand and six
Adam Morrison. Y'all remember Adam Morrison, that big motherfucker from
Gonzaga with the mustache apparently is the thing that pushed
(13:11):
it over the top.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Return of the mat.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, that's Mark Morrison, remember this duel?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah? High all the times too, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think he was a super early pick in the
NBA and a super regrettable choice for former threeas he
went number three and then did not do anything for
anybody for a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He would thrive in the NBA today, just at that time,
you know, he was he was.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
In an era where biggs needed to be bigs and
and he ain't know how to do that, you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know what I mean? Yeah, you had to be a
you have to be kind of an animal.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But Adam Morrison apparently was getting made fun of so
often despite being the the leading scorer in the in
the NCAA that year, he was being made from him,
specifically for his mustache, so often that literally crowds were
chanting amber alert at him while he was playing in games,
and that subsequently increased the Google searches that ultimately became
(14:18):
the popularity of the pedo stash.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I remember being at that game, a young umbrella that started.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Now the question is any regrets because you were yelling
at a boy he was a child.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think Adam Morrison was like twenty when he graduated.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Sure he was.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He wasn't all four years and he Yeah, it wasn't
a one and done guy. I know that. I waited
until he became nineteen. Ye things. I was never at
a child with cat calling. That's really all you can do. Yeah, yeah,
you just gotta wait, wait till they're nineteen.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Speaking of wild hair choices, can we can we just
take a moment for for recent Marcus Houston hares.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Those braids, those fake fake braids, braids. He he was.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
In a two B program where he had arguably something
far worse than Shamar Moore. That possible, Tyler bro. You
gotta take a look and just just take a gander.
We look at it now and make a choice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He looked nothing like Rogers.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's not the Roger I know.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think he got the braids the leading off the internet.
I cannot find them.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It was a very exciting day on Twitter a few
days ago. Now, granted I don't have a Twitter anymore,
but I do have Burner accounts, and yeah, you got
to explore out here. But the point is, oh, this
goes on, right, So the two thousand and seven, the
pedo stash apparently gets this giant influx on Google. It's
(16:13):
it's suddenly like become this this Google hot search all
the way up to fifty one out of one hundred
in its scale. And then in twenty ten it becomes
crazy popular again because Justin Bieber grosses first mustache and
everybody starts calling him a pedophile.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, so it really seems like just famous people growing mustaches,
and we're like that niggas a betophile.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That was a right there. I mean famous people and mustache.
I think there just wasn't a term for it. I
think it was a thing we all knew. It's like
Bomo Bomo's been around for everybody. We just didn't put
a word on it. To it right then you got it?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, walk us through all of your feelings.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, first of all, he didn't need desires. They couldn't.
It kept me straight backs.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Oh they're so thick and so high.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It's like a box, a box.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
They sit up tall. Baby, those ain't those ain't resting.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Also, his beard is fake as well, right.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I think everything is fake in that picture.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes, that's the budget right on the prest screen story
by Chris stokeb hear.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it's a bad combination.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh my god. Mark. Yeah, in the news a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Lately, Marcus Neston's been acting up a lot later.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Just notorious for making poor decisions. Yeah yeah, like physically.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, he keeps doing it to himself and in that
way I respect it. It's like, yeah, I mean where
you are and I repeating who you are? And he
did I will say the immature I m X.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Era well magic, I mean they both had hits, That's
what I am. Was it Stay the Night? Was that
my first time?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, my first time?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That was the iMX Climbing out the window. Yeah, yeah,
did you want to stay the night? Though? Was that not? It?
Just know he gave it so, he gave it that song.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
He said, if you're gonna do it, just make sure
you're strapped twice, which is the craziest.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Him though. I mean, he's already he's already used to
wear a double plastic.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
He's like, he's like Lizen as a man who wears
too much plastic. You wanted to be thick, You need
that thick coating of plastic, please double strap.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So so apparently, and this article that I read did
a lot of research on this. Apparently if you look
at the mug shots of contemporary pedophiles, right, the contemporary list.
I don't either, It's not my taste, but I do
report it. But the the contemporary collection of mug shots
(19:24):
does not, in fact reflect a bunch of people with
the same mustache. That is not necessarily a trend.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, because it probably hip to it now.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's like this whole school should have been in the
room type thing. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Nobody's wearing trench coats to shoot a school anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, that's what I'm saying. That's why the white guys
mustaches now are so cheeky about it because they know
it's jumped the shark if you wear the.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you go to shoot up a school, you wearing
an Adidas track suit, So you really surprise people with
whatever your bullshit is.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Mobility America. I love this country.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
But one of the things that was especially interesting right
because they're saying there's no direct correlation for right now.
But however, there was this dude, Tom O'Carroll who wrote
a book in nineteen eighty a book called and I'm
not bullshitting this, a book called Pedophilia the Radical Case,
in which he apparently dedicates a lot of his literature
(20:38):
to making a case for adults and children being able
to have relationships. All right, this is that's the core
of the book, is him being like, yeah, no, it's
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I want to know every unit that went out. Every
the government has a list of exactly what units and
what add just is they were sold to.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I hope he is just an agent. I hope he's
just a better agent. A fake book.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And he was like this, get out, whoever is it?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well know, I hate to break it to you, boys,
but but actually he was eventually arrested for you guessed it, pedophilia,
And when he was arrested, his mugshot became sort of
like the most quittessential pedophilia mustache man picture in history
that like he he could not look more like what
(21:30):
we associate with a pedophile. This is nineteen big old,
thick mustache, long haired, dead eyed stare like, it's all
the shit that that you would say is a pedophile.
And then when you combine this with people like Jeffrey Dahmer,
like Edmund Kemper, like Ted Bundy, like John Waye Gacy,
(21:52):
who all also had thick mustaches, it starts to feel,
in fact, like a trend.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I've never problem more sure of myself. That's good. That's good.
I like that. Great. Great. That's what we do on
this podcast. We're really trying to hear to uplift fellow
black men. That's what the wall and I got here. Brilliant. No, No,
you thought you thought you were a joke. You came
(22:20):
over here, you're Jackson Pollock. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Man. Well, one of the things, one of the things
that they then use as a counter argument inside of
this article is that they say that all of those
men that I just listed rose to their creepy prominence
between nineteen seventy three and nineteen ninety one, when mustaches
were most in style, and so subsequently they would say
(22:46):
that this is more of a cultural trend rather than
a pedophilic trend.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Boo, I thought we were going something. I'm just presenting information.
I listen. I haven't.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I haven't put staked in you know in the I
love that.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
If nothing else, the research has been mostly about white men.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I haven't covered at all our black men without mustaches.
And that's fair, I get it. I think there's not
as much research as one I agree with you is
it is it up to us to do the researcher
part of the community, you know, black people, and if
you spot any out there, I'm not asking you to
deliberately go out there and look for something. I'm saying
(23:28):
if you're on streets and you're walking around and you
see somebody without a mustache, cob of beliefs.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And we got to get I think we got to
push past this fear of snitching in relation to certain things.
Look if it's something, if you're participating in crime and
then a crime happens in the U tell one of motherfuckers.
That's snitching. That's that's snitching, And you got to unpack
why you did that and how that affects you, however.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
As if you were in it together.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably if you cut my
mustache and you didn't tell me on the way, yea amen.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Look, yeah, if you cut my mustache, do I not bleed?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I will say that this issue right of whether
or not this would be snitching. To tell on a
motherfucker on the street because they look creepy, feels like
we need to expand beyond that. We need to say no,
that is objectively dangerous for our youth, for for our
most vulnerable. We got to tell somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's Jerry's final thought.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, what's fascinating and we need to take one too, right, Damn,
Jerry's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's one of my favorite guests of all time. Really, man,
I thought he was. He's one of those ones I
never thought he was going. No.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, you don't imagine. Jerry Springer can die as much
as just fade into too quiet.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We had Larry King as well, two white men who
I never thought would go.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Larry King even talked on the show he was gonna
freeze himself, and I respected that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I believe he didn't get to it obviously, did Larry
King like wear suspenders and ship like fol Larry.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
King came on man being misogynistic. Oh stuff that you
were like, I don't make.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
When somebody, somebody bad shares their true beliefs and you're.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Like, oh, oh yeah, damn, You've had a lot of
beautiful guests.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I will say, We're gonna take one more break, but
when we come back, I do, in fact have a
little bit of research on the the alternative side of this,
on the black men with no facial hair that I
want to hear from. You bring that up, all right,
So we'll be back with more stilo, bring and more.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
My mama told me, why are welcome back to My
mama told me we are here with steel O Brim.
I don't have my pad, but I still have my mouth,
and I'm a thousand voices David for thanks to Kerman
(26:10):
steel O Brim. We are discussing the mustache, the mustachioed
white man, and the non facial haired black man in
terms of pedophilia yea or general creepy creep. Yeah, I
feel like it's overall creeping. I think there's my little
murders as well. It's not just right, that's I think
(26:34):
that's that's that's where we should have started. It's like,
as you're a weirdo responsibility.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's fine, that's fine, that's fine, And maybe that's where
where we need to to sort of embrace our non
facial haired brothers. Is like, for a while they've been
called pedophiles, and we don't think you're a pedophile necessarily,
we just think there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It just makes me sad if this doesn't work as
good as fine. Yeah, that's all it is.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I don't like looking at you, but that doesn't mean
you like looking at kids.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I think, yeah, we've all had ugly friends, but but
do you?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And that's the real question, the real question. So, in
relations specifically to the black men, one of the things
that that I read about or like an argument an
article argued is that black men largely grow mustaches as
a way to affirm their masculinity. That in society where
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we are so often living around people attempting to steal control,
black men's position as as men in a in a world.
This is like an effort to create control for ourselves
by growing facial hair, uh and improving our masculinity.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, and you know what it is, because that could
be that's the strong real talk. Man. It's just like
it's better way.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Because the black people don't have facial hair. Also either
work in finance politics. Don't trust either one of them
niggas either way, that's a good points.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Never have facial hair.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And it means they're playing white guy rules when you
play in those spaces, which means that they are willing
to cut their facial hair largely because they're like I
need to fit into the rules of some ship that
never belonged to me in the first place.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Man, let's go there, brother. Has Obama ever has also
shout out to Mayo. Hey, you know what, though, you
know what those shout out to mayor Mayor Web in Denver.
He's black. He always kept a mustache on him.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, tomorrow, Oh ship, I'm on here, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Was in there two weeks ago to three weeks ago.
Oh hell yeah, yeah, that's the best. But yeah, so
shout out to Mayor web Denver. Also, though, Has Obama,
do you have any pictures of Obama with the beard.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I think he's had a mustache before, right, he had
a mustache when he was like when he was super young,
them cigarette pictures and shitt he'd be cool mustache.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And then I think maybe right after presidency he might
have grown a little bit of facial hair, but it's
never been anything substantial.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I can't find them, no me either. I saw a photos.
But you know who kept the beer?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Mommy killed Patrick? That man kept a beard and KiB.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
What about Colin Powell?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'll call you know, Colin Bow didn't grown facial hair.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think Colin Powell had them burned off, you know
what I mean? The the whatever girls there.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's like a criminal with fingerprints. He was like, I
want no traces the man.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The man named himself after misspelled colonel, you know what
I mean, Like he's he's committed to this ship.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I really can't buy and Block with a mustache, but
I trust Block somehow, trust Rock.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
He's made it to the exceptional list.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
As much as I trust a president exactly exactly. So
let's start with that. Like it's not like, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
One of the things that they also point out is
that in the early nineteen hundreds, many black men wore
mustaches as a sign of defiance against white supremacy. That
much in the way that we're talking about where white
people are telling you clean shaven is the way to be,
that's professional, that's the way a man is supposed to look.
Black people start growing their facial hair to be like,
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fuck you niggas, do how we want to do over here.
And they said that same kind of resurgence happened in
the nineteen seventies because of the Black Power movement that
like a bunch of you know, like the like the
Black Panthers and shit would grow their facial hair again
to assert their dominance and defiance against against the power.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Because a nigga with al fac has definitely giving him secrets. Yeah,
as many secrets as he has. The only think he
has that many.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He shut the fun up. Just I just want.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I just want to keep away.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
A strong black man.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I don't think could gros if I can see you
deliberately trying and veains popping out, but you trying to
make your.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I'm okay with that. And you know what, Eldridge clever
had enough for the both of them. Yeah, counce right.
I think so Clever had a strong like one of
those thick thick cheese. Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That was a real plus one go tee for Yeah,
he added some some folks to that one.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah. He rocked the shadow here and there. Yeah. Yeah,
here he had the shadow a couple of time.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I'll give it to the shadow scares me because it
says now that he did cut his facial hair.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But that was what year was this? It was before
three obviously, you know I started this.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
This is before Jesus.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
We don't know what that was.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
This is an old testament.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
This is pre Willennium.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So so the last thing that I'll point out is
that they also point out that mustaches apparently are not
often associated with attracting women. That like, their research shows
that women are very rarely Actually.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
For yourself, you're not interviewing black women.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I don't think so. I'm just telling you what the
thing said. But they basically said they don't find that
that's something. Women are more neutral on the mustache. They are, however,
you more as a sort of like weapon against men,
that this is sort of like a way of asserting
your dominance, munch like a buck growing its warns real big.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Literally been doing that for the last hour, and I
stand on that. You know, mustache pussies.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, it's just men trying to big dog each other
with beards and mustaches and ship I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, But beers are different, you know, I'm just I'm
just beers. Beers are a whole community. I respect you, know,
of all, all all kinds, all colors, beards.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
When it goes, I don't like it when it gets
too crazy, like I need you to be a beard guy.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I know how many Asian men I've met with beards
I've been.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
They don't grow good beards.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna go so far as to say that
that's not offensive because I've heard it. I know enough Asian.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You hear one of your barbershop. No, no, I I
don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm a hate field man, but I'm not saying this
out of out of hate. I I truly think their
their hair tends to be whisper and it just doesn't
beard up like a full beard as well as as
they would like often.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And they're taking our jobs, all right? Would you like like?
I like them? I just don't want one date my sister. Now,
I will throw in something random, go crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
How do you feel about Asian man getting dreadlocks A lots?
Have you seen this? This is and the process that
it takes to to accomplish. How do you or even
not even just that, also just the sponge work. Have
you seen them get the box with the sponge work.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have seen that they're doing crazy things in Tokyo.
I feel better about it than I feel about white
guys doing it. And that's about is good of anything
I have to say about it. I don't even know
if I've seen white guys do it.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Guys with dreads, Yeah, but that's I don't trust that.
That's the ridiculous is before I've already stood on that.
I don't know white guys with dreads. It's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Have y'all seen the video? There's nobody's thing, nobody, not
even it's not even their thing. Truly, they always regret it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, they never stay that way forever.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They know it's always a face.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The ones in Venice are they're locked, yeah, until their
dad calls them back to work at the law firm.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Like they're on. They're on rich white guy rum.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, they they back out eventually. I will say that that.
I don't know if y'all remember this, if y'all ever
seen the video of them white lobe white boys doing
wave checks where they'll like have one like do rags
like and be like wave check pay check and then
like pull their ship off and they'll have like crazy
white boy waves for three minutes until somebody can do
(36:08):
this and then suddenly it all goes away. But like,
the white white kids are now taking over that space
and it makes me terribly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh, I already ruined sneakers. What else are you gonna
take from us?
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I love a good white wave check and the funni
Oh what is this? It's always the white guys. You're like, Yo,
this kid's adorable. What they don't wake up right now?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
This is great? Yeah, that's just a crazy look. They'll
be he'll be. They'll be the the gen Zers version
of black face once we show.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, the best nigga was doing wave jup videos in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You gotta go fires, Are are they no? Murray's Murray's No.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I think they're using like gorilla glue. I don't know
that white people's hair just does that with some murders.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
This is terrible. They invest that is the best in
the world, though that's really is thought. Who would have
thought where that career was going to take him.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Do you think owned a big percentage of this or
do you think it's just like, let's use shot moss.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I think not as much as we want him to. Really,
I would love it. I would love it to be
proprietary and that he invented it. Well, I know, let's
be honest, we know he didn't invent it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
We know this nigga didn't sit down and can cock anything,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
He's not the.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Virgil of do rags. He is is very much a
man just making choices. But I do think I have
hope that that he owns a bigger percentage than we think.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I think. I want to believe this is going to
keep him. I want to think he's a majority O.
I think so.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, I think he's like fifty one percent of that percent.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
But I would say they're still moving units. I was
saying fifteen, but yeah, they're moving units. Fuck yeah, damn,
it's that fifty one man, that's a lot. That's something
that would have had to have been his idea or
he was on the ground floor. I want to thank you.
I feel like they were making Do Rags they himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He would have had to go to I don't know
(38:25):
where they make velvet. I was just good out myself.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
But here's the thing, here's the thing, and hear me out.
Nobody up to this point had ever thought to brand
Duke Rags, even Nelly when he was doing them two
tone Do Rags, and that was like their signature ship
that he never came out with a Due Rag company.
Bow Wow's the first motherfucker to be like, I'll put
my name on it if I'm a due Rag designer. Yeah,
(38:50):
they're bow Wow Do Rags. You can have fifty one
percent of what is ultimately going to be a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Give him fifty one That's a lot like sh now
now bow all the control and power. Yeah, and then
you see what happens when he runs the ship. Collaboration
would be to we don't want it. Yeah, you have
limited edition. I want to imagine.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I want to imagine bow Wow is the logan Roy
of Rags where he's just.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Sitting at the end of you mean it, you mean
an embarrassment. You're not a serious person. I I don't,
I don't. Oh no, I hate Kendall Logan logans. Yeah,
I take it back, I take it back, I take
it back.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I love that you're like, Logan's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
He's a beast, just what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But point being, I think ultimately if we're if we're
really gonna land this plane, because but at some point
we have to, it sounds like there is some possibility
that there's truth to this and it's not just a
cultural sort of time stamp that that if you don't
have facial hair a black man, or if you do
have a thick mustache as a white man, certainly you
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are doing something that we all need to be slightly
wary of. And what that something is is yet to
be decided.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Amazing through these last two words from more than two,
Abraham Lincoln had no mustache and a beard.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
He was half white, half black. People know that, and
that's why he had that. So that's just on those
I am on those Reddit forums. Yes I do know,
yeopia right, and then you look at me like I cannot.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Very tall and he got them eyes?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah right, thank you guys, though, letting me do that.
This was a great time.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Could you tell the people where they can find you
and what cool shit you have going on.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
We're still just moving that train along doing ridiculousness.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Two thousand more episodes we just signed on for, which
doesn't sound real, but it's real.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That's the real number. Damn good for y'all. Man th Jay.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
You can find me at steel O Bread I think
across all. Maybe not TikTok, but who cares. TikTokers are
not watching this right.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah? Only pedophiles there, and pedophiles.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
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Speaker 2 (41:34):
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Speaker 1 (41:54):
We would love to hear from you. That's about it,
By bitch, the government brought unamis my group.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
Chips in your names Kala Bears are racist. They also
player as the money Rgians.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
And men of Turkey stuff.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I can't tell me nothing
Here's what I love about Marcus Houston. He's been able
to take a significant fashion l in every single era. WHOA,
that's true what you're about to bring up. I'm about
to bring up the clear suit. I know what you're
about to bring up, obvious sigendary pre COVID. I five
(00:26):
before the towers fell. Like me, I think we still
had the tower. I think he was still dating Beyonce
when he did that. He was like people never bring yet.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I think he was in a clear suit smashing Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So you know, I can't believe she let up.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I like to think that Marcus's never actually smashed Beyonce,
and it makes me feel better.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I also would like to he is a queen, and
I'd like to know that she did not do that.
Get your clear hands off of me.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Listen, I play chess. Sometimes queens make bad moves.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You got rethink yourself. Baby, girls are racist.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
The layers, the money, our stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I can't tell me. Give me that doggy button and
big old legs. Welcome back to another episode of My
Mama Doon me the.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Fine gast, But we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And we work to prove that the tea in T
Pain does not in fact stand for tallahassee, it stands
for Trautman, as in his real father, Roger Troutman of
Staff and Roger a pioneer of the vocoder a k A.
The fucking voice thing that T. Paint does. He is
(02:03):
in fact a nepo. Baby. It was not on him,
It was in him the whole time. Y'all wake up
and David Boren and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm Langston Kerman, and I'm stunned at this revelation. You're
saying that he had a silver auto tuner in his
mouth when he was born.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
He was born with it in his mouth. You thought
he invented that shit. Come on, baby, he.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And he cried, beautiful, just that was.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
That was He grew up to the sounds of so rough,
so tough, in the city of good old Watts.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
If it's true, devastating, truly, we've all been rooting for T.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Paint.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I think in part because of we thought he got
it up for you know what I mean, he was
doing it from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
He did like he got it out the mud. I
was like rapper turned singer.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like, I get it, Come on, man, but no pains
out here, just just you didn't even hear them.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You didn't even hear the whole conspiracy theory. Roger Troutman
was killed by Larry Troutman, who was also percussions in
the Zap band. I think it was a beef over
t Paine's mom and the illegitimate son whoa to hot
right now? I'm too hot, too hot, I'm too hot
(03:17):
right now, motherfucking boys. Nothing about that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's this is heavy dog. I don't even I think
we would have to do a different day.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's a different day. Hey, you might notice that the
audio fucked up.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, listen, We're not a perfect show. There are high
jinks every week with this, with this program, mostly I
would just say on David and Ice.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Part yes.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That if there is an issue with the show is
usually David or Eye's fault or my my fault. And
and we're we're not proud of that, but we're not
gonna We're not gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Hide from it. We are not We are not men
who pretend like we are not flawed. No, you, if
you cut us, do we not bleed?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
We bleed, and we we bleed a lot and.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
If you played Chatshaw, do we not slide.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
One hop this time?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, not Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But unfortunately, due to some technical difficulties, this episode has
sort of we we we've had some hijinks. We lost
the first little segment of the show, and we assure you,
dear listener, that it was hilarious, the really funny shit
inside of this motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You know, you would have loved it. Remember the first
time you saw that Patti LaBelle rolling on the Floorida video.
That's what you would have done, as you heard the
first time. But you but it's gone.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Now, it's gone. There's nothing we can do about it.
It's it's lost in the ether, lost in the sands
of time. But here's the good news. Our guest is
a phenomenal talent, a hilarious person, a man who you
know best from from his podcast one and We, but
(05:09):
you probably know him best from from being one of
the co hosts of the long running show, maybe the
longest running show.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And it's like that in General Hospital.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think I don't think I dare to say there's
nothing longer. It's it's that show General Hospital, The Simpsons
and c Span I think that the those four are
are the sort of Mount Rushmore of long running shows.
But he's one of the co hosts of Ridiculousness. He's
a hilarious man, a dear friend, and and we're we're
(05:42):
we're gonna jump straight to the research section of this episode.
So don't be thrown off by the sort of weird
cutting and pasting if you if it would were.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Because you know what, that's just show business. And honestly,
you're lucky to have us. So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What the we could be anywhere right now?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Bro? You don't think I could have been working for
fucking all State Life right now. I could have been
a term life God, I could have had equity. I'm
here talking to you losers because of art.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I would be putting a tire in some water and
telling you where the hole is right now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Come on, you don't think my man would have been
a big o' savant. Quit playing with me.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But our guest, he's hilarious. Give it up for stel
Low brim everybody steel.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Amazing. You came to a.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Steel with a conspiracy that that I would argue also
is gonna be up for some debate as falls into reality,
not by me. Hey, I'm not pushing back, baby, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We're all good over here. I'm not pushing back. But
I dare say you are going to upset certain gentlemen
in our community. You said, my mama told me never
trust a black man without a mustache or a white
man with one.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
They're both pedophiles. Steel O.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I did a bunch of research on your conspiracy that
I would love to unpack with you. Now I think
I think you're it's it's some pretty promising research. It
was far more information than I expected to be able
to find. I thought that this was just be like speculation,
but now there seems to be some real research behind
(07:35):
this motherfucker. So what's especially interesting is that apparently the
associations of mustaches and pedophiles is much more contemporary than
we actually realize. I thought this was like something that
dated back millennia, and shit.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I thought it was like the forties fifties.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
See, I even that seems like a thing. But apparently
the August of two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Is I started the rumor started this three for sure.
And you know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The article said steel brim was walking around his high
school calling niggas pedophiles when they had no facial hair.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know, those people did turn out to be pedophiles.
That's there and that's and that's where that's see research,
you gotta do your I just spoke it into them
and now you're right. Now, I got to explore this.
Don't put that on yourself. Don't put that right? You're right.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Why is Stelo saying this every day? Maybe I gotta
unpack this. I will say that. So August of two
thousand and three is sort of like its first appearance
in sort of like the the public lexicon, right the
innerne they said. They said, it first appears apparently Urban
Urban Dictionary. I'm a being man, I love a sweet being.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Uh, they said.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
The definition on Urban Dictionary first stat this was their
first definition of it was a person who is genetically
predispositioned to have upper lip hair, usually accompanied by aviator sunglasses,
police issue gloves, and a pedophilia like stare down.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's him.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Just when you're talking about like after that mass a guy.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I don't need to see no other pictures.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know I have a few questions. Even as far
as his research, goes yay. One was urbandctionary dot com invented?
Oh my boy did that? My boy did that in
science class? I think that's what I'm saying. So it
was like if it was because if this was when
(10:00):
the site was new, there had to be a term
of it catching up to previous pop culture ideas where
they were filling in the blank. It had been prevalent
for years. That's just when they put.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It on that this is some ship that came out
in eighty six, But we didn't get hipped to it
till two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's because the because the website came up in Lato too,
they were still just back feeling, all right, what urban
slang do we need to put on there?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Because urban Nicknare's ninety nine myself?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Guys, did you just say the will endium?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, that's how I measured time is myself. I'm I'm
twenty three years old past the millennium.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You know what I mean? You have that album? You
had that album? Oh? I had that? Of course. I
had that album that was Friends and that was his
favorite album.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Come on, man, that was.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You like that album better than Big Willie Style? It
wasn't talking we're talking.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
No, it wasn't about better or worse. It was about
inspiration and that nigga was inspiring me in ninety nine.
There was nobody else that could inspire me more.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Than will A great year.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
He was, he was killing it in ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Man, was that meant? Was that when Miami came out?
Or was that before?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's post Miami Miami?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I think it was Willennium, Yeah, what's well?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I give me a second. He had that song,
and I think it was with Cisco. I want to
say he had it was No, it was with k
C and he had that song.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah yeah, well wow Wow West was the first single
release for Willennio. Yeah, song was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Then he had Will two K, which is crazy, and
then he had Freaking It come out Freaking What was
on that?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't even remember freaking it? But come on, my
boy was My boy was being sexy for the last time?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Come on, No, he was. He was sexy on Big
Willie Style. I don't know why I'm going so hard
for Big Willy Style. That was a great record. What
you mean? It was clearly written by Nash Well certain
certain songs, for sure, there were if we can snicker
all night on my Jolly Ranch. Well Smith didn't write that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, I didn't write that down.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
He liked it, though, I take him a little longer,
but he got that. He just had to sit in
there with shoot on a cigar and listen to the beat.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So I will say it sounds like you boys are
not in tune with the possibility of this two thousand
and three start date. But I will say that additionally,
what they plane is that in two thousand and six
Adam Morrison. Y'all remember Adam Morrison, that big motherfucker from
Gonzaga with the mustache apparently is the thing that pushed
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it over the top.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Return of the mat.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, that's Mark Morrison, remember this duel?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah? High all the times too, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think he was a super early pick in the
NBA and a super regrettable choice for former threeas he
went number three and then did not do anything for
anybody for a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
He would thrive in the NBA today, just at that time,
you know, he was he was.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
In an era where biggs needed to be bigs and
and he ain't know how to do that, you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Know what I mean? Yeah, you had to be a
you have to be kind of an animal.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But Adam Morrison apparently was getting made fun of so
often despite being the the leading scorer in the in
the NCAA that year, he was being made from him,
specifically for his mustache, so often that literally crowds were
chanting amber alert at him while he was playing in games,
and that subsequently increased the Google searches that ultimately became
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the popularity of the pedo stash.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I remember being at that game, a young umbrella that started.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Now the question is any regrets because you were yelling
at a boy he was a child.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think Adam Morrison was like twenty when he graduated.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Sure he was.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He wasn't all four years and he Yeah, it wasn't
a one and done guy. I know that. I waited
until he became nineteen. Ye things. I was never at
a child with cat calling. That's really all you can do. Yeah, yeah,
you just gotta wait, wait till they're nineteen.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Speaking of wild hair choices, can we can we just
take a moment for for recent Marcus Houston hares.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Those braids, those fake fake braids, braids. He he was.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
In a two B program where he had arguably something
far worse than Shamar Moore. That possible, Tyler bro. You
gotta take a look and just just take a gander.
We look at it now and make a choice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
He looked nothing like Rogers.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
That's not the Roger I know.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think he got the braids the leading off the internet.
I cannot find them.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It was a very exciting day on Twitter a few
days ago. Now, granted I don't have a Twitter anymore,
but I do have Burner accounts, and yeah, you got
to explore out here. But the point is, oh, this
goes on, right, So the two thousand and seven, the
pedo stash apparently gets this giant influx on Google. It's
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it's suddenly like become this this Google hot search all
the way up to fifty one out of one hundred
in its scale. And then in twenty ten it becomes
crazy popular again because Justin Bieber grosses first mustache and
everybody starts calling him a pedophile.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, so it really seems like just famous people growing mustaches,
and we're like that niggas a betophile.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That was a right there. I mean famous people and mustache.
I think there just wasn't a term for it. I
think it was a thing we all knew. It's like
Bomo Bomo's been around for everybody. We just didn't put
a word on it. To it right then you got it?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, walk us through all of your feelings.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, first of all, he didn't need desires. They couldn't.
It kept me straight backs.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Oh they're so thick and so high.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It's like a box, a box.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
They sit up tall. Baby, those ain't those ain't resting.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Also, his beard is fake as well, right.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I think everything is fake in that picture.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yes, that's the budget right on the prest screen story
by Chris stokeb hear.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it's a bad combination.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh my god. Mark. Yeah, in the news a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Lately, Marcus Neston's been acting up a lot later.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Just notorious for making poor decisions. Yeah yeah, like physically.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, he keeps doing it to himself and in that
way I respect it. It's like, yeah, I mean where
you are and I repeating who you are? And he
did I will say the immature I m X.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Era well magic, I mean they both had hits, That's
what I am. Was it Stay the Night? Was that
my first time?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, my first time?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That was the iMX Climbing out the window. Yeah, yeah,
did you want to stay the night? Though? Was that not? It?
Just know he gave it so, he gave it that song.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
He said, if you're gonna do it, just make sure
you're strapped twice, which is the craziest.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Him though. I mean, he's already he's already used to
wear a double plastic.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
He's like, he's like Lizen as a man who wears
too much plastic. You wanted to be thick, You need
that thick coating of plastic, please double strap.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So so apparently, and this article that I read did
a lot of research on this. Apparently if you look
at the mug shots of contemporary pedophiles, right, the contemporary list.
I don't either, It's not my taste, but I do
report it. But the the contemporary collection of mug shots
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does not, in fact reflect a bunch of people with
the same mustache. That is not necessarily a trend.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, because it probably hip to it now.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's like this whole school should have been in the
room type thing. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Nobody's wearing trench coats to shoot a school anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, that's what I'm saying. That's why the white guys
mustaches now are so cheeky about it because they know
it's jumped the shark if you wear the.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you go to shoot up a school, you wearing
an Adidas track suit, So you really surprise people with
whatever your bullshit is.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Mobility America. I love this country.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
But one of the things that was especially interesting right
because they're saying there's no direct correlation for right now.
But however, there was this dude, Tom O'Carroll who wrote
a book in nineteen eighty a book called and I'm
not bullshitting this, a book called Pedophilia the Radical Case,
in which he apparently dedicates a lot of his literature
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to making a case for adults and children being able
to have relationships. All right, this is that's the core
of the book, is him being like, yeah, no, it's
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I want to know every unit that went out. Every
the government has a list of exactly what units and
what add just is they were sold to.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I hope he is just an agent. I hope he's
just a better agent. A fake book.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
And he was like this, get out, whoever is it?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well know, I hate to break it to you, boys,
but but actually he was eventually arrested for you guessed it, pedophilia,
And when he was arrested, his mugshot became sort of
like the most quittessential pedophilia mustache man picture in history
that like he he could not look more like what
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we associate with a pedophile. This is nineteen big old,
thick mustache, long haired, dead eyed stare like, it's all
the shit that that you would say is a pedophile.
And then when you combine this with people like Jeffrey Dahmer,
like Edmund Kemper, like Ted Bundy, like John Waye Gacy,
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who all also had thick mustaches, it starts to feel,
in fact, like a trend.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I've never problem more sure of myself. That's good. That's good.
I like that. Great. Great. That's what we do on
this podcast. We're really trying to hear to uplift fellow
black men. That's what the wall and I got here. Brilliant. No, No,
you thought you thought you were a joke. You came
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over here, you're Jackson Pollock. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Man. Well, one of the things, one of the things
that they then use as a counter argument inside of
this article is that they say that all of those
men that I just listed rose to their creepy prominence
between nineteen seventy three and nineteen ninety one, when mustaches
were most in style, and so subsequently they would say
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that this is more of a cultural trend rather than
a pedophilic trend.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Boo, I thought we were going something. I'm just presenting information.
I listen. I haven't.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I haven't put staked in you know in the I
love that.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
If nothing else, the research has been mostly about white men.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I haven't covered at all our black men without mustaches.
And that's fair, I get it. I think there's not
as much research as one I agree with you is
it is it up to us to do the researcher
part of the community, you know, black people, and if
you spot any out there, I'm not asking you to
deliberately go out there and look for something. I'm saying
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if you're on streets and you're walking around and you
see somebody without a mustache, cob of beliefs.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And we got to get I think we got to
push past this fear of snitching in relation to certain things.
Look if it's something, if you're participating in crime and
then a crime happens in the U tell one of motherfuckers.
That's snitching. That's that's snitching, And you got to unpack
why you did that and how that affects you, however.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
As if you were in it together.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably if you cut my
mustache and you didn't tell me on the way, yea amen.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Look, yeah, if you cut my mustache, do I not bleed?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I will say that this issue right of whether
or not this would be snitching. To tell on a
motherfucker on the street because they look creepy, feels like
we need to expand beyond that. We need to say no,
that is objectively dangerous for our youth, for for our
most vulnerable. We got to tell somebody.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's Jerry's final thought.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, what's fascinating and we need to take one too, right, Damn,
Jerry's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's one of my favorite guests of all time. Really, man,
I thought he was. He's one of those ones I
never thought he was going. No.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, you don't imagine. Jerry Springer can die as much
as just fade into too quiet.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We had Larry King as well, two white men who
I never thought would go.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Larry King even talked on the show he was gonna
freeze himself, and I respected that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I believe he didn't get to it obviously, did Larry
King like wear suspenders and ship like fol Larry.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
King came on man being misogynistic. Oh stuff that you
were like, I don't make.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
When somebody, somebody bad shares their true beliefs and you're.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Like, oh, oh yeah, damn, You've had a lot of
beautiful guests.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I will say, We're gonna take one more break, but
when we come back, I do, in fact have a
little bit of research on the the alternative side of this,
on the black men with no facial hair that I
want to hear from. You bring that up, all right,
So we'll be back with more stilo, bring and more.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
My mama told me, why are welcome back to My
mama told me we are here with steel O Brim.
I don't have my pad, but I still have my mouth,
and I'm a thousand voices David for thanks to Kerman
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steel O Brim. We are discussing the mustache, the mustachioed
white man, and the non facial haired black man in
terms of pedophilia yea or general creepy creep. Yeah, I
feel like it's overall creeping. I think there's my little
murders as well. It's not just right, that's I think
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that's that's that's where we should have started. It's like,
as you're a weirdo responsibility.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's fine, that's fine, that's fine, And maybe that's where
where we need to to sort of embrace our non
facial haired brothers. Is like, for a while they've been
called pedophiles, and we don't think you're a pedophile necessarily,
we just think there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It just makes me sad if this doesn't work as
good as fine. Yeah, that's all it is.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I don't like looking at you, but that doesn't mean
you like looking at kids.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I think, yeah, we've all had ugly friends, but but
do you?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And that's the real question, the real question. So, in
relations specifically to the black men, one of the things
that that I read about or like an argument an
article argued is that black men largely grow mustaches as
a way to affirm their masculinity. That in society where
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we are so often living around people attempting to steal control,
black men's position as as men in a in a world.
This is like an effort to create control for ourselves
by growing facial hair, uh and improving our masculinity.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, and you know what it is, because that could
be that's the strong real talk. Man. It's just like
it's better way.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Because the black people don't have facial hair. Also either
work in finance politics. Don't trust either one of them
niggas either way, that's a good points.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Never have facial hair.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And it means they're playing white guy rules when you
play in those spaces, which means that they are willing
to cut their facial hair largely because they're like I
need to fit into the rules of some ship that
never belonged to me in the first place.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Man, let's go there, brother. Has Obama ever has also
shout out to Mayo. Hey, you know what, though, you
know what those shout out to mayor Mayor Web in Denver.
He's black. He always kept a mustache on him.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, tomorrow, Oh ship, I'm on here, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Was in there two weeks ago to three weeks ago.
Oh hell yeah, yeah, that's the best. But yeah, so
shout out to Mayor web Denver. Also, though, Has Obama,
do you have any pictures of Obama with the beard.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
I think he's had a mustache before, right, he had
a mustache when he was like when he was super young,
them cigarette pictures and shitt he'd be cool mustache.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And then I think maybe right after presidency he might
have grown a little bit of facial hair, but it's
never been anything substantial.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I can't find them, no me either. I saw a photos.
But you know who kept the beer?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Mommy killed Patrick? That man kept a beard and KiB.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
What about Colin Powell?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'll call you know, Colin Bow didn't grown facial hair.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think Colin Powell had them burned off, you know
what I mean? The the whatever girls there.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's like a criminal with fingerprints. He was like, I
want no traces the man.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
The man named himself after misspelled colonel, you know what
I mean, Like he's he's committed to this ship.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I really can't buy and Block with a mustache, but
I trust Block somehow, trust Rock.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
He's made it to the exceptional list.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
As much as I trust a president exactly exactly. So
let's start with that. Like it's not like, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
One of the things that they also point out is
that in the early nineteen hundreds, many black men wore
mustaches as a sign of defiance against white supremacy. That
much in the way that we're talking about where white
people are telling you clean shaven is the way to be,
that's professional, that's the way a man is supposed to look.
Black people start growing their facial hair to be like,
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fuck you niggas, do how we want to do over here.
And they said that same kind of resurgence happened in
the nineteen seventies because of the Black Power movement that
like a bunch of you know, like the like the
Black Panthers and shit would grow their facial hair again
to assert their dominance and defiance against against the power.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Because a nigga with al fac has definitely giving him secrets. Yeah,
as many secrets as he has. The only think he
has that many.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He shut the fun up. Just I just want.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I just want to keep away.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
A strong black man.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I don't think could gros if I can see you
deliberately trying and veains popping out, but you trying to
make your.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I'm okay with that. And you know what, Eldridge clever
had enough for the both of them. Yeah, counce right.
I think so Clever had a strong like one of
those thick thick cheese. Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
That was a real plus one go tee for Yeah,
he added some some folks to that one.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah. He rocked the shadow here and there. Yeah. Yeah,
here he had the shadow a couple of time.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I'll give it to the shadow scares me because it
says now that he did cut his facial hair.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But that was what year was this? It was before
three obviously, you know I started this.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
This is before Jesus.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
We don't know what that was.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
This is an old testament.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
This is pre Willennium.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So so the last thing that I'll point out is
that they also point out that mustaches apparently are not
often associated with attracting women. That like, their research shows
that women are very rarely Actually.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
For yourself, you're not interviewing black women.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I don't think so. I'm just telling you what the
thing said. But they basically said they don't find that
that's something. Women are more neutral on the mustache. They are, however,
you more as a sort of like weapon against men,
that this is sort of like a way of asserting
your dominance, munch like a buck growing its warns real big.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Literally been doing that for the last hour, and I
stand on that. You know, mustache pussies.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, it's just men trying to big dog each other
with beards and mustaches and ship I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, But beers are different, you know, I'm just I'm
just beers. Beers are a whole community. I respect you, know,
of all, all all kinds, all colors, beards.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
When it goes, I don't like it when it gets
too crazy, like I need you to be a beard guy.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I know how many Asian men I've met with beards
I've been.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
They don't grow good beards.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I'm gonna go so far as to say that
that's not offensive because I've heard it. I know enough Asian.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You hear one of your barbershop. No, no, I I
don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm a hate field man, but I'm not saying this
out of out of hate. I I truly think their
their hair tends to be whisper and it just doesn't
beard up like a full beard as well as as
they would like often.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And they're taking our jobs, all right? Would you like like?
I like them? I just don't want one date my sister. Now,
I will throw in something random, go crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
How do you feel about Asian man getting dreadlocks A lots?
Have you seen this? This is and the process that
it takes to to accomplish. How do you or even
not even just that, also just the sponge work. Have
you seen them get the box with the sponge work.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have seen that they're doing crazy things in Tokyo.
I feel better about it than I feel about white
guys doing it. And that's about is good of anything
I have to say about it. I don't even know
if I've seen white guys do it.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Guys with dreads, Yeah, but that's I don't trust that.
That's the ridiculous is before I've already stood on that.
I don't know white guys with dreads. It's not my thing.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Have y'all seen the video? There's nobody's thing, nobody, not
even it's not even their thing. Truly, they always regret it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, they never stay that way forever.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
They know it's always a face.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The ones in Venice are they're locked, yeah, until their
dad calls them back to work at the law firm.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Like they're on. They're on rich white guy rum.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, they they back out eventually. I will say that that.
I don't know if y'all remember this, if y'all ever
seen the video of them white lobe white boys doing
wave checks where they'll like have one like do rags
like and be like wave check pay check and then
like pull their ship off and they'll have like crazy
white boy waves for three minutes until somebody can do
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this and then suddenly it all goes away. But like,
the white white kids are now taking over that space
and it makes me terribly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh, I already ruined sneakers. What else are you gonna
take from us?
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I love a good white wave check and the funni
Oh what is this? It's always the white guys. You're like, Yo,
this kid's adorable. What they don't wake up right now?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
This is great? Yeah, that's just a crazy look. They'll
be he'll be. They'll be the the gen Zers version
of black face once we show.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, the best nigga was doing wave jup videos in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You gotta go fires, Are are they no? Murray's Murray's No.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I think they're using like gorilla glue. I don't know
that white people's hair just does that with some murders.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
This is terrible. They invest that is the best in
the world, though that's really is thought. Who would have
thought where that career was going to take him.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Do you think owned a big percentage of this or
do you think it's just like, let's use shot moss.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I think not as much as we want him to. Really,
I would love it. I would love it to be
proprietary and that he invented it. Well, I know, let's
be honest, we know he didn't invent it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
We know this nigga didn't sit down and can cock anything,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
He's not the.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Virgil of do rags. He is is very much a
man just making choices. But I do think I have
hope that that he owns a bigger percentage than we think.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I think. I want to believe this is going to
keep him. I want to think he's a majority O.
I think so.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, I think he's like fifty one percent of that percent.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
But I would say they're still moving units. I was
saying fifteen, but yeah, they're moving units. Fuck yeah, damn,
it's that fifty one man, that's a lot. That's something
that would have had to have been his idea or
he was on the ground floor. I want to thank you.
I feel like they were making Do Rags they himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He would have had to go to I don't know
(38:25):
where they make velvet. I was just good out myself.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
But here's the thing, here's the thing, and hear me out.
Nobody up to this point had ever thought to brand
Duke Rags, even Nelly when he was doing them two
tone Do Rags, and that was like their signature ship
that he never came out with a Due Rag company.
Bow Wow's the first motherfucker to be like, I'll put
my name on it if I'm a due Rag designer. Yeah,
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they're bow Wow Do Rags. You can have fifty one
percent of what is ultimately going to be a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Give him fifty one That's a lot like sh now
now bow all the control and power. Yeah, and then
you see what happens when he runs the ship. Collaboration
would be to we don't want it. Yeah, you have
limited edition. I want to imagine.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I want to imagine bow Wow is the logan Roy
of Rags where he's just.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Sitting at the end of you mean it, you mean
an embarrassment. You're not a serious person. I I don't,
I don't. Oh no, I hate Kendall Logan logans. Yeah,
I take it back, I take it back, I take
it back.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I love that you're like, Logan's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
He's a beast, just what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
But point being, I think ultimately if we're if we're
really gonna land this plane, because but at some point
we have to, it sounds like there is some possibility
that there's truth to this and it's not just a
cultural sort of time stamp that that if you don't
have facial hair a black man, or if you do
have a thick mustache as a white man, certainly you
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are doing something that we all need to be slightly
wary of. And what that something is is yet to
be decided.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Amazing through these last two words from more than two,
Abraham Lincoln had no mustache and a beard.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
He was half white, half black. People know that, and
that's why he had that. So that's just on those
I am on those Reddit forums. Yes I do know,
yeopia right, and then you look at me like I cannot.
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Very tall and he got them eyes?
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This was a great time.
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