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July 15, 2025 61 mins

Is the CIA exploiting incarcerated Black Americans and the race for a mind control agent? Langston and David sit down with the talented Rashida "Sheedz" Olayiwola (Jury Duty, South Side) about this unsettling conspiracy theory. They get into talks about MKUltra and the nasty things the CIA did to repress and abuse marginalized groups and to key members of the Civil Right movements. The conversation floats to an even more pressing matter: #QuincysList. We answer an voicemail about MLK Jr's affair being an FBI set up. We hope Coretta was able to get her groove on too.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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is a man in like some formal guard Like he
is like dressed in a way that I am an
elevated figure in this community.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
That's a funny thing. He's in the Orlando Magic Wins.
This is a regular, regular man. And then you go,
that's the chief, you know, fucking chief.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
They this variant ship, like so much ship they make
in America that doesn't sell whatever they send there. So
it'll just be like it will be just like a
guy in a baby blue Philadelphia Eagles ship.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah it's fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be like
Chief may I.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Jeez, Chief mustards staying on your shirt, man.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Chips in your.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
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Speaker 5 (01:22):
Turn stuff I can't tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
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Speaker 6 (01:31):
M o r oh you s and the g l
a m oh oh u s.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
There it is ladies and gentlemen, gentiles and little mamas
like Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama told me.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
The podcast will be the fuckings of black conspiracy periods.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And we finally work to prove whatever the fuck you
want us to prove, whatever you got going on, We're
willing to dive into it and lie about it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Frankly, I never tell the truth. He uh man, that's
a good song. It is a good song.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
It's a really good song. I was laughing because I
hadn't heard it in a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
But it's like it's one of the ones yea, and
everybody is gonna try to pretend like Fergie didn't have
like a legitimate moment, but she had a legitimate moment.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Do people pretend like that? I think so.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I think she became a little bit of a laughing
stock after the uh the national anthem arguably the worst
national anthem of all time, I would.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Say, is uh, it's friggy just the white lady she is.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
But she also was a crackhead, and I learned.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
I think Fergie didn't they did her dirty because me
and me half way Yeah, yeah, like Fergie, we're not finna.
I didn't even know she was a fool white lady.
I thought she was like mixed with something like serbian, or.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
She was right over here. But it feels like there's.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Something look like a different type of white.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Feels like there's something extra.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I think that's there's some extra season on it.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
For if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Fergie was a meth addict for some time and then
got clean and became the Fergie of note. I think
that's just myth.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
So the Blacks cleaned her up.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I guess will I am was like, it's will I
us now.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Come into my arms.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
And then something happened during the All Star Game. Maybe
she relapsed. That that could be what that was because
no one understood.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Okay, and the cameraman won and shit because he knew
when the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Let me get eyes on Draymond. This is funny because there.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Were other All Stars they could have shown that would
have held it together and been respectful.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
They rhyme.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
The whole Warriors were like this, something's wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes, was like even Steph. Steph didn't Steph didn't pray
for her nothing, he was just laughing.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Has she spoke on it?

Speaker 8 (04:30):
I think there was something I saw when she said
she was trying a new rendition. But it was like, Fergie,
yeah that's not a rendition.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
You literally did whatever you did and it flopped.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think she wanted to be She wanted to like
really serve up some funky stuff.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
And I've done that. I get that try a new
shirt outs. Sometimes she took a big swing.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
And I will say, and this maybe speaks to a
larger conspiracy I personally have inside of this. I will
say part of my issue with it is that Fergie
tried that before she got there, and there were all
these people that let Fergie keep going, fully knowing that
this ship was.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
As Do you think she really tried it out in
front of people? I do think.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I think they don't let you do the All Star
Game without without running it a few times before the event.
And I'm saying that they let her dangle. They really,
I'm saying that part of what they like soundcheck type
of thing, part of what makes Hollywood so nasty.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
And you know they do soundchecks. That's multiple sounds.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
They're not letting her just go out.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's got to know.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
And that's the blackest All Star game out of all
the All Star games. Yeah, I didn't even know football
had an All Star Baseball be for real.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
All Star.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
You think instant as a black person, You're like, it's
the only one. And that's why we be because it
fell off a lot.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Yeah, but it came to my city once and it
was it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
It was a huge seven Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Seven one in Chicago was insane. I was a part
of it, and it really like, yeah, of course it
was in the.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Club with Scottie Pippen.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
That's the best thing I ever heard story about that.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
You know, it's crazy because I feel like, and this
is I'm trying to say disrespectfully, I don't think any
other weekend moves whole culture in the same way. But
you can feel a seis miic ship like the Hoser.
You could feel it around All Star Weekend. And I
don't think there's.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Any playing their whole year.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
That's what I'm saying. I don't think another weekend does
that in that way. I don't think so you could
feel the whole you can feel it.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, maybe Black Beach week but not like that, not
like all Stark Game.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
You guys really need to get that off. I thought
it was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I thought I thought everything you said was nice. I
think that this this cup we don't need to have.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think this is great.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
We're gonna we should inter we should introduce our guests.
She's already been talking. She's she's great.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Uh you know.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Her from from so much beautiful, inspiring hilarious television Jerry
Duty a fucking south Side where she was a writer
and a performer. She's she's hilarious. We love her so much.
Give it up for Rashida.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
She bit them may supposed to be here.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
That's the best had. So thank you for being here,
Thank you for that beautiful intro.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
We were happy you're here.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
We're happy you're already contributing to the to the Fergie conversation.
I am excited because you came with maybe the darkest
conspiracy we've had in a little while. I would say,
in a nice way. That's not a bad thing over here.
Sometimes people say dark and they mean that as a pejorative.
But sometimes a lot of our conspiracies get so insane

(08:16):
and silly that that it means nothing.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
You know what I mean. We're not even having a
real conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is a real fucking conversation as topic, I would say,
but she you said, my mama told me.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
The CIA exploited incarcerated black Americans for a mind control agent.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, tell us everything.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
You know, the CIA, they did a lot, They did
a lot for all that.

Speaker 8 (08:49):
Like, because I was brought up with in a very
uh like black love raised me, but also black powergon
my you know, my grandparents, and we had to like
I was, I was in one of the houses where
the encyclopedias. Okay, we would have to when we got
in trouble. It was like read, you know, read about
Ryan Leaf. He didn't discover ship. And I met a

(09:09):
lot of people right now like who's Ryan Leaf? Yeah,
like him and Columbus was like thickest thieves and they
didn't do ship. But like like Columbus he was like
he was the one who yeah, he was like his
his main man or something like he tried to do
what Columbus did. Even though Columbus didn't do shit.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He was.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
He tried to get boats and stuff too, but it
didn't go that way.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Man.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
It Actually Columbus was the one who was like I
think Columbus saw what didn't work for him and was like,
all right, this is how I'm gonna do it. That's crazy,
and I'm gonna get a Nina Pinta and a Sanemon
to that nigga made the slave trade from spices, but get.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
An Italian guys, because it's named after right, it was
somebody on that ship named America. That's why they call
it America. I didn't know that that's that's I'm pretty
sure that's right.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, you know the natives one called.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
They should have called it. The whole thing should have
been America. Yeah, we should have been that. Don't don't
fix it, don't shorten it up. Let him let him shine. Man.
You gotta talk to Ryan lee Cee.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
I did a lot of ship they like, I was
taught that my uncle Scoochy, that's his name. He was
a Yeah, his real name wasn't Scoochie, but that's all
I knew as a kid, like on Scoogy. I didn't
learn his real name until I was like in junior high.
It was crazy when they sent this man to pick
me up from school on report card y and they

(10:44):
were like, oh, ye're They were like.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
You have an uncle Clifton coming, and I was like,
I was like, that's my uncle Scoochie. And my family
was like, why would y'all send him to get me?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You know, he got a silly name. Why would you.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
Giveing y'all background know why I believe this is because
these are the same people that pumped government cheese crack right,
all that stuff into black neighborhoods.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
It would only make sense that that aligance as true.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
Yeah, I feel like as far as government agencies fucking up,
I feel like the CIA is the most That's the one, right.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
They fucking everything up, That's what they do.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
They're the ones who leaked like they were supposed to leak.
They were leaking the wrong shit, doing the Martin Luther
King tapes.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, I'm saying, man, if you want a government job,
I feel like you got to go to the CIA.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I feel like it's real easy.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I think what's crazy about the CIA is that they
haven't even existed that long's.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's like since the sixties.

Speaker 9 (11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Shit, that's when it got really big because they were
doing the whole like taps on MLK and Malcolm like
all the listen, look at all the people on MegaR
Evers like black leaders.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think they really if I'm remembering correct, okay,
nineteen forty seven. I think part of the CIA's creation,
as I remember, it was basically like them attempting to
activate in the Cold War that like they needed foreign espionage,
and so the CIA essentially became like that branch of

(12:20):
like US attempting foreign espionage.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
And so like this was it ain't that old, do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
And it's a it's the same way that ICE is
like this fumbly ass group of dumb dums who who
can't even manage to do what they're attempting to do,
this vile thing. Well you know what I mean, Like
I think these agencies just they they're fucking babies.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, they're enough. I mean, yeah, So what is the
CIA done that worked? What are their big wsu I
think assassinations they've they've done success. Oh, but like we're
not supposed to know about I mean publicly. Yeah, that's
the problem, right, is like they killed doctor King.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
They killed King.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
They we're not supposed to know that, and and that
is them being inept on the back end. But they
did kill them, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Like the goal was accomplished.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
And in that way I go and with the whole
black panther thing, they like literally ripped up a positive
organ black organization through plants, plants in there, That's what
the CIA did and then gate that man two hundred
thousand dollars if you bought a gas station and then
killed themselves.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
So yeah, yeah, they do talk about the plants and
once that Angela Davis book, it tastes.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Power, Yeah, it tastes I think I have that book.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They talked about that that they.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Would put in in black churches and in black they
would like literally.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Play college students.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Who don't need money and in college.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
Not to say that I would do anything like that,
because I just move with a different level of integrity,
But think about it, the.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Fred Hampton story, him being you know, set up by
a by a plant, a plant, and then and then
that plant's deep, deep ties to federal agencies.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Yeah, no, it's not federal agents. Man, myself, my teen
supreme stay clean.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know, I like it. Okay, okay, she is before
we take a break.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
As it relates to this conspiracy theory specifically, you're you're
talking about the CIA and their mind control agent. What
do you understand to be how this mind control was
taking place? Are they doing literal like hypnosis? What is
it for you that you understand.

Speaker 8 (14:56):
I always think about the movie They Cloned Tyrone, and
I think of like all of the little things that
are placed when it comes to black people of like
how we it's like we just we we.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Get right there.

Speaker 8 (15:09):
But then we can right there, Like one of the
mind control things is like the whole like every race
of people has different types of people, right, same with
black folks. But then whenever it's time for us to
like really come together, it's all of a sudden, it's
always that that bugging out ass nigga who's not bugging

(15:29):
out was actually on the right side.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's always the one member and do the right thing.

Speaker 8 (15:33):
When they were like boycotts outs, boycotts out, everybody was
on board, but then the Martin character was like, she good,
that motherfucker piece is hell No.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's the same thing with the CIA. They have every
time we're about to come together. Think about it with
the Target.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
The Target boycott is one of the most successful boycott
since like the bus boycott or something. Then here comes,
but what about the Target just got them colorskin. Literally
someone had to speak out of it. I think it
was that pastor from Atlanta. He was like, yo, then
go here, go there. But that's what the mind it's

(16:10):
like that. That's one huge part of it. Every time
were about to get really like congealed and on board,
how come there's just like and they never have like
a specific like reason.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
They're just like because I like that, and it's like,
but I know, but we get more if you don't
like that right now.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
And if I'm hearing you correctly, that might be the
mind control activating it is that these are the these
are the released prisoners essentially conversation.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
And it could.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
And maybe because they ain't been there in a minute
and so they want But the CIA is definitely behind
that type of.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Ship hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Devastating that, I feel like it is.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Think about it? How come it's all and it's always
like a random people think about like online even with.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
People, it's always people that are well well known. It's
always some weird it also.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
It's always just the person. You're like, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I also don't have any of those people in my
life actively, that's like, that's that's the thing about it.
I think most people, when they like really think about it,
don't have the like defectors truly planted in their lives.
You're just assuming that somebody else has the defector in
their life.

Speaker 7 (17:31):
And the Internet makes it so much easier because then
they don't even always have to put necessarily a face
to it.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
No, it's just like, uh, you know, I always be
thinking like, man, do these people hang out together? But
they never hang out with each other?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right, Yeah, there's nobody.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
They're not like hanging out at like the subway at Target.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
There's not like ten of them, like we all feel like.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
They're not like the Israelites, like listen, they get they
will work your damn nerves.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
But they are together looking.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like w w together?

Speaker 8 (18:04):
They and they got them undertakable song.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Mom the other day Francisco. They she yelled at it.
She said they were She started to oh no, she
Their approach is just to like.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
You ain't why y'all curzing people out? That's not how
you get what you want.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I literally watched It's crazy. I watched an episode the
other day. Episode. I watched the clip the other day?
What episode?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
What?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
What am I talking about?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
TV show that's a good regularly features the black Hebrew Israelites.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Besides the one that David and I are about tomorrow?
Have we ever been on TV for real? I don't
think so. Afternoons on clips, yeah, but they've never been
like nobody's ever.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
You'll see them, but they will never interview them because
they know that it's gonna go this way.

Speaker 8 (18:59):
Yeah, I think they're you'll see like a glimpse of Yeah.
They dressed like Master Splinter Shredder and they yell.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I watched the clip the other day where a white person,
this white boy had like consented to them, had like
fully taken a knee and like was bowing his head
in apology for his ancestors, like.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
They it go on. It worked for one dude, and
the entire time they kept being like, sorry for what,
Sorry for what? Motherfuckers say it no, say the ship,
You're sorry? Sorry what you want us to so you
want us to forgive you. It's like, oh, y'all can't
even y'all don't even know how to bring him into You.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
Don't sometimes when you actually get what you want and
you realize you don't even know what to do with it.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
Where this white lady was like yelling at him and
they were just like shut up, cave bitch, and and
they's just someone just paused on her face and she
and then they cut it off.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
She was like.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
He was I was like, oh mom, It's it's like
when doctor Umar reads his comments.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I'm like I can't crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Because it really forces you on your heels where you're like, whoa,
you're calling me a neanderthal.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's crazy crazy, You're really being crazy.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, So I like.

Speaker 8 (20:37):
With the mind control of it all, there's definitely that.
That's the biggest thing that I'm like, I don't think
people pay attention to. It's like, think about that every time,
every moment. It's always happens every time, even with the
twenty two. You could go back, we could go back.
It's always that one or or group that's like it's
like where did they come from? And why why wouldn't

(20:58):
you want the better part of this? And then they
get the attention like where it's supposed to go, and
then it just dis and we get nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
It, to your point, does not feel like we ever
get any reflection on the failures of our previous attempts
at like liberation where we go like, well, we're not
going to dissent this time, y'all, and we go yup,
and then the second it happens, everybody's a defector.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Everybody or like was it COVID when this happened? Where
literally we were doing great.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
Great then Popeye's all of a sudden a damn sandwich
and where lines are formed.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Down doesn't make any sense. The blow up of that.
I was thinking, that's it just didn't make it. The
size of it, A lot of it didn't make sandwiches.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
It didn't make sense in a world where literally you
can go to name it. We're from Chicago, so great,
we come from good food, right. You had people in
all cities acting like they had never had a chicken
sound before and just being real. There was black folks
lined up.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
I remember watching videos and one guy's like telling his
he's telling his wife about it. He's like, baby, you
don't understand. It's like they got the crystals in that
pop singer. It was like, it's like, what are you
talking about? And then what are you saying?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I don't even know?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Motherfuckers that were like back in line again for this ship,
do you know what I mean? Like everybody had.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
It once they had it. When they did a video,
everybody was like, this ship is fire, which it was.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
It was.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It was a good sandwich.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
It wasn't the best sandwich I've ever had it.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
It wasn't worth that.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
It was cool, y'all.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Remember when they had they had they know, the CIA
knew what to do.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
They were like they're gonna make that this chicken sounds
is gonna take away from the real ship that they do.
And then I will never forget when they had us battling,
they were like Chick fil A versus Popeye's. There was
a whole thing because versus was like blowing up and
they were like, this is the versus. There were actual paid.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like over that chicken sandwich. Crazy, Yeah, man, a man
in line, Uh yeah, I can't even forget it. I
feel like it was New York, but I could be wrong.
It might have been Chicago.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
It sounds like us a man got god damn.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Chicken sand and they probably won't even over the sandwich. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, he was standing in line and got like popped
in the head over the chicken sandwich.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
Anyway, And think about how many other sounds not trying
to be funny with other sandwiches that came out.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Nobody does it was. It always always comes in moments
and waves.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I really like what you're suggesting of the the sleeper
cells because I think very often in conspiracy theory it
kind of lands in the soft spot of the unknown,
you know what I mean, Like, Okay, we're brainwashing prisoners,
but like you're just testing it to attack the enemy.

(24:07):
But we don't ever see that in the way that
they participate in war, especially now where y'all ain't even
doing person to person combat. Everybody's playing video games at
each other, do you know what I mean? So, like,
whatever that version is doesn't quite make sense. But the
idea that this would just be we send them out
and we ask them to promote sandwiches. Yep, we just

(24:29):
tell them to say this song is hot right now,
even if it ain't.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's what we want them to think. Yeah, how did that?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
That's a very good example order other than that girl,
Uh what was that white girl? She was like nobody
talks about anymore. She like, y'all know the outside.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Girl you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You know I made that?

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
And then they're like, what we're gonna do is we're
gonna give her all this money, all these deals.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
And it does fume the motherfuckers who've really been out
here working towards that stuff, and they're like, watch what happened.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
Yeah, because you only have to set the ball, you
only have to set it in motion, and then it
grows from there.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Everything else figures itself out, and that starts a war
within itself because look what's going Like I think we're
getting a ship that is happening where a lot of
that stuff is getting filtered out, like just bad rap,
Like come.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
On, it's it's like, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's it
feels like it's never been like this in music. It's
how low the bar is? Yeah, and just like what
like you just listening to shit sometimes and you're like,
I don't even It makes you feel like the youth
are lost, which is like the oldest person should.

Speaker 8 (25:52):
Anytime they're arguing, like anytime you got the youth shipping
on two people in general like Michael Jordan, which I
still can't understand because we aren't old.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Michael have been on this one okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
But.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
A fan of the podcast, but not about the basket.
That's what they shoot on him about. They're like, man,
Michael Jordan, Wane ship, I'm talking about that way on
the horror.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we just call him an alcoholic.
We don't do.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Like the dog.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Of course, he's the greatest alcoholic of all time.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I think, and I love him. Look, come on, his
eyes are burgundy.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
In the last dance just watching the cup go down,
and and he had.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
It was at the time. It was drunk, slashing around and.

Speaker 10 (26:53):
Look, ship accents is a bit we all fuckscot his
wife and that necklace.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
Hold on, let me put on my necklace from fucking
Abercrombie and fish.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Where's my choker chain?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Where's a seashelled chain.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
Same man who wears those pants all those years, you
know what I'm saying. Same guy who wears those jeans.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Oh he had got it together. But yes, I say
all that to say, I.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Like, segbrate, we'll come back. And I did a little
bit of research that I'd love to un back with you.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
More sheets more ma. Mama told me, yeah, little Mama's yes,
we are back. We are back. Sheets.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I did some research on this conspiracy theory, and uh, frankly,
it's devastating to say it's completely true.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
God damn, there's like not a moment.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Of false in this other than the speculation of what's
happening with the sleeper cells whatever whatever. But we very
much started a secret program. The US specifically started a
secret program called mk Ultra.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I've heard of that.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It was developed when the US began to believe that
communists in the Cold War had developed their own mind
control technology, and so they basically started to develop their
own mind control technology, and they started by using the
experimenting on prisoners in America and then also prisoners in Japan, Germany,

(28:39):
and the Philippines, basically dosing them with LSD and torturing
them with electroshock therapy, extreme temperature exposure, and sensory isolation
in order to see if they could first break their
minds and then replace their minds with new information.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
It's crazy because you hear that shit and it's like, bro,
doesn't even sound like sound science, you know what I'm saying,
Like that doesn't even sound that doesn't even sound that
doesn't sound like that's not an educated guess.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
No, No, that's just like no, we'll just.

Speaker 8 (29:15):
Yeah, they do it now in other ways, Like I
got so many examples, like the whole Angelies, Caitlin, mind you,
both of them amazing players, both of them like your people.
But you have this ship they put out there where
they're like rival this mind you angel Is, She's just

(29:36):
been dope since college, and we nobody was focused on
the whole race of this ship where they're like, well,
let's make this black.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Girl a villain. Yeah, it wasn't like she.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Wasn't she's always been like.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
She's she's known, she's always been defensively like tough and
double double queen. It was not until they played each
other in the championship where they made it a civil
rights game. The public, the general like the c i
A and them made it because literally and then after
the black team won, which was LSU, the President of

(30:15):
the United States, Joe.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Biden's wife, because it's always been like that.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
The president goes to the male march madness, the wives
go to the That's just how I didn't.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
Know that, Jill Biden. Literally, it does does that, Jill Biden,
you don't get to tell you.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
What she did.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
So LSU wins, and they don't just win, y'all. They
won by like twenty two, so it wasn't like nobody
could say they were lucky whatever. And Joe Biden says, man,
that game was so good, I think we should invite
both IOWA and LSU to the White House and no,
and Angel spoke out and said, they've never.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
In the history have done that. Why do you want
to do that?

Speaker 8 (31:01):
We won, and that's when it was like c I
a planted th SNL invited Caitlyn to come speak, like
to be a part of like some ship. There after
she lost the championship again, Andrew never got invited.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
They never got invited.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Not to say, you know, SNEL could do what it once.
I got homies there, That's not what. But I'm just saying,
why do this white woman who has lost, y'all, I
got lean in.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
He lost twice.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
She's lost twice, y'all, she's lost, she's lost twice. Why
does she get all the ship? Because what they're doing
is they're pushing it. They want to break mentally like like.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Her specifically, they want everyone like black black women.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think you're to your point. They are sewing a division. Yeah,
there there is a.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
Love both of like I have no but it's just
like when you see what's going on, it's definitely.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
There was a period I will say in the beginning
of their like, uh, they're sort of like fabricated beef
right whatever, whatever move beyond the basketball court felt fabricated them.
You know, yapping at each other on the court, that's basketball.
Everything after that felt like it had been fabricated by

(32:22):
the media. But when I really felt like it made
a turn where I'm fully in agreement with what you're
suggesting is that it carried into the w n b A.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Because they were.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
And then look at the other league, you know, that
new league, unrivaled where they get paid more and all
this stuff, no drama, no racism, and Angels a champion,
her team won.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
But what I'm saying is like, none of that. But
in the w n b A, it's this, They've they've
done this, it's there, so they have to undo it
because they did it.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, and sports is like, and I.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Want to make sure this has a through line.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I mean, sports is a perfect place to do it right,
Like it's just there.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
It's so passionate, it's so it's so competitive, which is
like the racial element is so easy.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
To yeh, it's literally picking sides.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, exactly. It is instinctual in sports that I see
the hero villain so clearly.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
We see it all the time, even if we don't
say we see it all.

Speaker 8 (33:26):
We just saw it in a Super Bowl right clear
as day, where it was like this versus these people
was darker people, the other wasn't. Yeah, and then you
know you had the president they literally showed him hanging
out with them before.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
The game and then was like, all right, I'm gonna
go to my seat.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
It was so from there it was like we you
just saw certain groups of people going hard for the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I like football, but I was like, I though Eagles
will Yeah, I heard.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Always there's it's there's always that team to feel that for.
I never chill cheered for a Philly sports team once.

Speaker 9 (34:08):
Don't want to.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
We're all from those cities where we have our own
even if we had players.

Speaker 8 (34:17):
But I was like, I'm on the last time I
cheered for a Philly teams with AI because I love Yeah,
I alan I.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
I don't as a because then they nasty my phone
in the second.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
All you said, we're talking about the c I A.
I turned my phone off. Really you go, I'm not
even go. I just didn't want to ring. I think
you're like, you can.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Get those cameras on and point a few of them
at me directly, but but I'm gonna turn my phone on.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
I'll stand on.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
What I believe more to this conspiracy is that so
it started by this dude, Stephen Gottli, Right, he basically
starts this, what did the mk Ultra pro started an
mk ultra and part of what he wanted was first
they need to do it to extinguish the mind right,
so that they could they had a clean slate, and
then they wanted to insert new mind in its place.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Is that even, like I said before, is that mind science?
Is that how the brain works?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Here's how crazy they were willing to invest into this
non science. It's great that you're asking that question, because
they literally spent two hundred and forty thousand this is
in the nineteen fifties, two hundred and forty thousand dollars
to buy up the world's supply of LSD America by drop.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
How do they source that? I don't know. They had
to at some point.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
If you buy that amount of narcotic you source that
from illegal means you knew to buy drugs.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
You you shook some dirty hands. They bought every single.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Fuck LSDD.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
So America literally introduces the LSD problem to itself. It's
it's again, it's the crack story all over again, but
now with like this other intention tied to it. Right,
So they also there they say that this program specifically
can kissy from one flow of the cuckoo's nests, the
right of that. That's how you got That's how he

(36:25):
got fucking around with LSD was because of this. The
lyricists for the Grateful Dead got fucking around this way.
Whitey Bulger says that he was part of the experiments that,
like while he was in prison, they were testing LSD
and electrocuting him and ship.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's like truly touched.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
All facts were such.

Speaker 8 (36:46):
Like all I know about them is that they were
like a really they were like a group of white
folks that were like good, like very hippie doing ship
for people.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, I think the LSD they would attribute to some
of that behavior because he died too, right, he got
mad at the end.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, he has some bad stuff to say about that.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Music doing this. Like, Bro, you wouldn't even have your
ship if you went.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
And I've listened to that ship. It's not like fun
now sham ban trance or whatever. You're not doing anything
that great.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I get it. Yeah, y'all got long beards, right, and
y'all we yeah, And I'm not mad at you don't
come over here, No, leave me alone.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
It's like leave it alone. You don't have to say
anything about.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
The amount of conversations I shut the funk up about
the Beatles in I.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
Man, I was just talking to somebody about this. That
music does not make me feel anything is midsh.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
You'll hear their ringo Star didn't even really play them
on drums. It was a black man playing all the drums.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
People saying he was just a face. Yeah, Quincy Quincy
Jones talks about that a.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
Lot, the black man who played the drunk. He said,
I did all of the drunk. Like no, he was
on like a le night show or something like they
have clips from back in the day.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
You know, it was the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
He said it.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
It came out of and apparently Quincy, you know, Quincy
ain't give you ship.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Before he died.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
He told us more than what we he.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yo.

Speaker 12 (38:31):
Yeah, man, about that Quincy ship though, if you read
that last article, people everybody talks about the Richard Pryor ship, right,
but like in that same article they were like they
were like, what's the craziest ship that you know about?

Speaker 7 (38:43):
He's like, who killed Kennedy? That was the crazy and
then like who and he said it was Sam g
a Comma's brother and you know you.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
But you know, you know, Quincy has been around. He's Quincy.
People have to come to him to like get certain ship.
There's only ship that he could do.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, he was a cornerstone of American culture.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Of American when Quincy was you know, he he was
like eighty eight at that time. He was just this
old black legend talking. And when he dropped the ball
about James Balling and uh, the Godfather who plays the Godfather.

(39:23):
When he dropped the ball about that, it was just like,
all right, what like we you know, like because you'll
hear rumors of like, oh we rich pryor liked, you
know both.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
And most people who like love comedy, don't you know,
those ones who are like, don't talk about my hero.
And it's like, yo, I'll say.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
This and and this may be a nasty conspiracy to
to start, but I do genuinely believe it. I think
they left some names off of that that interview.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think I think Quincy probably parties
for a while.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
He was.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Who else, who else? Who else?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I think he went on a run, and I think
they cherry picked intentionally ones that made him sound crazy,
and they were already deceased and that's what I'm saying.
It's like that there's no no checks and balances to
what he said. Marlon Brandon and Richard Pryor used to Yeah, probably,
but that's not how he started the conversation. He started

(40:31):
as some ship that actually could have affected somebody's money,
and then they went a move that out of there,
get that out the way.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
That's that's trouble right there. Man, we got to get
that list. I'm much more.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, I know who's vile in the government, all of them, right,
you know what I mean, Like the Epstein List ain't
gonna change the way I feel about them even more
than what.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
I want to even more than this. Like, I know
people are like the didn't he I'm like, honestly, I
got a feeling who's already on that did ship because
they're quiet.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I don't think that's that.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
She's not gonna surprise me. No, it's not gonna surprise
me when Meek Meal pops up.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
You know, I'm saying that that Quincy list, but Quincy list,
you know Dion Warwick Younger Washington here talking about she.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
Had little boy from the Partridge family, like that ship
would be like.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
And I'm still around. She's like, he's a damn lie.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You know, Harry belaf is a eunuch. Whoa Quincy Quincy's list?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Man?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
That even happened this episode is that we we got
to see Quincy's list.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
We got to see Quincy's list. That's that's dope. That's
the dope name of Like.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
It's a great name. It's like one of them inspiring
b BT movies. You know what I mean? Doing that
work original up the new edition in three movies.

Speaker 8 (42:05):
I think we on the ship Quincy a Scott Mills.
If you listen to one Green Lights.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
List, let's go come in April twenty twenty eight. Oh
you put a date on it. I like that. Come on, man,
you gotta put that out in the world. I love
it com being ambitious and we could learn a lot
from that. All we need right now is to figure
out who plays Quincy. We don't got to do that.
We're giving away too much. Ye all right, sheets, We're

(42:35):
gonna take one more break.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
That's cool. I need to look up this Quizyes, listen,
I need a break.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
And when we come Carrie, we're gonna hit a voicemail.
We're gonna talk to a listener at home. All right,
more sheets.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
My ma Mama told me, Yeah, would you say that
you're racist?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Not at all. No, look at a dog. He's as
black as can be. You know, even got Hi, we're
back show.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I really respect the journalists for for being able to maintain,
if if she was in fact able to maintain any
level of like, you know, control. Yeah, I really respect
that because that's such a funny thing to say.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Dog, he's look at my dog, he's as black as
can be. What's what's that dog's name?

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Why?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Something evil? Something? I say Shadow. White people like naming
their dogs. Yeah, ye, Shadow is a good name for
a black And.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Cats they love naming black cat's shadow.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Black cats. They really hit it hard.

Speaker 7 (44:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Remember Homeword Bound, of course, when the pets got left behind.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, I think about the porcupine scene. Oh the young
one chance, Yeah, he gets sucked up by.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Real hard and then I remember, yeah Shadow.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, Shadow almost over the hill.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
They're like, I'm sorry, honey, and he's like Peter, Peter,
I was Show. It's a little kid that almost messed
me up. That cat held on.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I forgot that they continued to be human, being voices
even when they were having emotional moments.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Yeah, that's so funny, Michael.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
He was like Peter had a little lamp. People like Shadow,
didn't they work? Mom were Shadow?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Because they were coming over there over there.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Shadow got hurt a little bit because he was an
older dog.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, yeah, he was limp.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
He was limping. So the cat came first because she
just was a bad bitch.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah she didn't. She couldn't really. Yeah, she got wet
once and and that was it.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
And Michael J. Fox chance he uh he made it back.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
He was like all hyper and yeah he was the
little boys dog. Yep.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Shadow was like we all of us didn't know what.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
The hell happened. Shadow took Yeah, man, he's Peter. Oh
it was.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
It was.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
It was like a labrador. He had a deep.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Especially when you do the math, that's like a thirty
five year old man.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Even the dog is like thirty five, little boy.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
I just I don't know what made me that. I
guess we're talking about the dog and I'm like, damn
homework bound.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Really it really hit when I was a kid. It
sounds so embarrassing right now in a way, but it
really was.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I didn't watch it again though, I would like to
see it.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
You would watch it necessarily, watch it again, not like
going knowing it's a piece of ship. Yeah, I watched
bad Ship, all right, Well, she's speaking of bad ship.
We get a lot of voicemails from people, and sometimes
they're drunk and sometimes they make up stuff, but they're
always uh, we're grateful for all of them.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Exactly. There we go.

Speaker 13 (46:34):
It was up a little freaking niggas.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
What made you think they were freaky niggas?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
That's on us, that's on us.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
We apparently have have left a voicemail message that is inappropriate, okay,
and we neither of us realized it, but it is
on us.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
But little freaky nigga is not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
That's not you know what you're doing, you're taking it
a step further than what everybody else has been doing.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
Because they started they started calling us little freakies, okay,
and that it's just it's really gotten out of control
and we don't like it.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
We don't like.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
Shadow has really gotten out.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Peter Peter, I'm fucked up, bad man, Peter Peter got.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I know you're a little boy, but.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
You're my owner.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Peter Peter, I don't need unless you tell me I
can eat Peter. You're my own.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Ship.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Okay, Okay, here we go.

Speaker 13 (47:57):
We all know doctor King was one of the greatest
full of all time. And and then we found it
came out that the FBI called doctor King cheating, and
I thought, you know, I thought that was okay because
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
He earned it. I can't tell what he what does
he mean by that. I feel like he's saying he
put in the work to be able to cheat on Kreta.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
To get y, to not have that held against him.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Okay, he's like, he's like, some great men should be
allowed to cheat, and doctor King is one of those
great men.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
And we're looking at stats good versus bad.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
I really do hope Coretta got some when he was
hope she like had some type of milkman and that
somebody was the ancestors, but for real and you know.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Somebody and she just did this at the door, but
big as but it's like.

Speaker 11 (49:11):
And he was like, you're like.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
And and then nobody believed him.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
At the bar.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
He was like, its's Loretta is Correnna is slugging And
they were like, you ship you hutch now.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Showed me a big.

Speaker 13 (49:35):
That's a.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Nobody believes that. The nobody believes the milkman because they
like man she's I.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Think that's the nasty thing that they have done over
time is they not only have painted Martin Luther King
as this vile cheater, but they also have not given
her the agency the possibility, frankly, to have also been
here doing whatever been open.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
For a long time.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Man, she is around raising all them kids like he was.
I hope she did too.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I feel like she. I think that's high possible. I
hope she dipped off on a march or two and
just it was got her bag blown out.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
All right, y'all, I'm gonna go head and head home
and take these shoes off.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
I'm gonna start martin the same time that the milkman.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Delivers the milk.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Martin, I'm gonna start the cooking.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
You know, Chitling's taking it out because he loves Chitling.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
You love chittings, right, Yeah, I got she's on sweating.
It's because it's hot.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
It's hot at you. I made greens smothered porch chops.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Corretta.

Speaker 9 (50:38):
What's that smell, Chitling. It's smell like something in here, Correnna.
I thought you cleaned them chittings last night, but you.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
Said you just put them save the smelling chip links.
Come today, the box is empty. He didn't forgot to
put the milk in.

Speaker 14 (51:04):
Sh she put it down. I remember a lot of things,
a lot of people that get milk that day. He

(51:34):
is crazy, Miss King. Oh man, let's let this version finish.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Whatever done.

Speaker 13 (51:42):
Someone told me to night. They said, isn't that fake?
Isn't doctor King cheating on his wife's fake? It was
made up by the FBI to discredit the man for
his work. And I actually never looked it up, and
I still haven't looked it up when I called you
all a little freaking so all right, bro, I think
that doctor King eat it and what other great men

(52:03):
of our time should have cheated, should have to cheat?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Whoa, Hey, don't call us in trying to justify your life.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
But I like that.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
He was like, and hey, since we all agree, yeah,
he's cheated. What pretty good, y'all? Maybe I deserve it,
you tell my girl.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I think I think any great person that decides that
that's what they want for themselves has the right to
figure that out for themselves.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I'm not. I'm not about to dig into another.

Speaker 8 (52:37):
And they you know, he had part of the They
did leak some you know, they tapped his room. I think, like,
who was that Kirk Franklin. So I just got through
revamping and I was head writer, had creative of this
year's twenty fifth anniversary beats here.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Let's go come on.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
That.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
We were a shameless plug, I promise y'all because his
voicemails has a lot to do with what Kirk Franklin like.
So you know, keV hosted it was the most successful
BT Awards since like the early two thousands.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
That was the point to bring.

Speaker 8 (53:13):
Like, when they brought me on, I'm like, yo, we
want to bring back the nostalgic blah blah blah. So
you know, naturally, keV wanted to do like a roast
style monologue and the show had a when we planned
it had a through line of like all the classic
shit one on six in part Rhap City, all the
you know sketches and the ship that made people feel

(53:35):
that the tributes were amazing. Kirk was getting honored that night.
But when we were writing the monologue.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Everybody gonna get these jokes and if y'all seen it, Kirk.

Speaker 8 (53:44):
He we yeah, went the fuck in And it was
great though, because it was like, we don't care who
you are tonight, y'all talk about family and also shit,
we all we were gonna get these jokes. So his
face was kind of stern, like back and forth whole time.
And then I guess the breakfast club they were like, uh,
you know what was going on? Did you not think

(54:05):
it was for He was like, no, it were hilarious.
He's like, he said, I don't think people know you,
like how we know you, like your friends know. He's like, yeah,
I'm funny, Like I love jokes. I love fun he
was like at the end of the day before Kirk
Franklin the gospel music singer, and I'm a human being.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I do enjoy it.

Speaker 8 (54:23):
And so this voicemail, he's like, do you think they
did that the discredit? Yeah, but Martin Luther King was
a human being, dude, he made you know, he made mistakes.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
He did. I'm not justifying nobody's cheating, is what I'm
saying is just he was a human being.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I think the nasty thing about the way that this
cheating thing has sort of propagated is that it is,
in a lot of ways being spread by a white
person who does not see us as human beings.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
It feels like it's pulling it down. Yeah, it always
feels like it's said in a it's detracting from the
lis where it's like, oh, you thought you had a God,
Well you don't.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
God is not real, And it's like, oh, if you
think he's my God because he was like loyalty.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
His life, No, it's because we're trying to like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, you're kind of missing the point of why I
liked him. Yeah, exactly. I don't give a fuck, you
know what I mean, Like, I give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
In a in a me sense, right, But as far
as like the whole thing in hand, it's like, yo,
do you know what he was out there? Yeah, that
doesn't affect it at all, you know, but that was
a little like i I'm like, I think because even
with the dude in the voice, what other great like
you don't even think these people are here?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yeah, I think, if anything, what I would say to
this person is is that it's very likely that Martin
Luther King cheated on his partner. I think sometimes even
what we call cheating is not actually cheating that. They
may have had an understanding situation. Neither one of them
died unhappy with each other.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Or he always came back to that miss King.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
He always came back, and then big old bloomers were
ready and waiting on them the milk.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
There's a lot of babies with that king last name.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
You know any surviving king children that hear this?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
We love you'll, yeah, yeah, Martin's the king. The third
be acting up, acting up.

Speaker 8 (56:35):
I know, the one daughter, she real sweet. She'd be
like she'd be holding it down for them. She'd be like,
excuse me, please take my father off your freaking up.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Didn't say that right, take him off.

Speaker 8 (56:48):
That flyer and find somebody else to do. For that weekend,
they had like a picture of them like Atlanta be
on some crazy they had like Martin and Corretta.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
It was for King weekend.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
They were doing like a special and they had her
on like a stripper pole. It was crazy, and Bernice
was not, well, you don't blame him, but that ship.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I was like Atlanta. Every time we think, y'all, okay,
y'all do something that say you.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Gave him photoshop.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
I mean, it was crazy. It was like what, but again,
c I A because what person did that? You knew
it was gonna say some ship off.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, that is who dropped photoshop off in the hood, right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Motherfuckers ain't got phones, but they got photo shops.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
They got the prisoner that knew how to code off
right there and just went to work. Yeah, because photoshop
take some work.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
It started with birthday party flyers and baby shower flights,
and then it was like, hey, you want me to
do your king weekend flyers.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Yeah, June teen, got you.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I'll make it busy as hell.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
It's gonna be so much information on that motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
You ain't gonna be able to focus. I'm listening. Everybody's
name big.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Too funny, She's I think we did it. I think
this this achieved the goal of this episode. I think
certainly MK Ultra was a very real program. I should
say that it was eventually stopped because Richard Nixon came
into office and then disbanded the CIA, which or at
least you know the people of that that like group

(58:38):
of the CI whatever U and then doing so, the
one dude who was holding that doctor or knew what
that doctor was doing because he completely never, he had
no checks, no balances. He killed people testing this ship.
Not a problem for sure. The one dude that knew
everything also got fired, which meant the doctor got fired

(58:58):
and the the program ended. But no it didn't because
why would it, you know?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Damn damn.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
Yeah, we got to do it in shadows voice.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Damn again with Peter.

Speaker 8 (59:23):
Thank y'all, man, I mean this is one of them.
I don't say this because but my mama told me,
y'all aren't great?

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Could you tell the people where they can find you?
What cool ship you got going?

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Listen? I'm on i G.

Speaker 8 (59:38):
That's the only social media platform that I have and
can maintain because as a as who I am and
a creative, that's how my brain really can take. So
you can find me at Rashida sheets on i G
and yeah, and just be on the lookout. I got
amazing things happening.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Perfect What you got cool?

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Got?

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Joe City seven on Instagram? I don't got I got
no dates right now? Yeah? All right to move here?
You about to make it out?

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Do you follow me at light sin Kerman? You can
send us your own drops, your own conspiracies. You can
argue with us at Mamma pot at gmail dot com.
We would love to hear from you. You can call
us at eight four four Little Moms. We ain't gonna
pick up, but you leave us a voicemail and we'll
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(01:00:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
And and more importantly, Bye bitch.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Pot my butt, pop, pop my butt, Pot my butt, pop,
pop my butt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Do you know what pop my butt meant? To Harriet Tubman,
do you know what that meant? It meant a whip?

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
My Mama Told Me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
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and iHeart Podcast.

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Creetd and hosted by Langston Kreukin, co hosted by David Borie,
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