The Mycelium Network Theory (with Aaron Branch)

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Have you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
You've never flown a spirit before.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
I've never been on a spirit flight.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're in for a street.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
I looked over. It was one of those where by
the time I wanted to book because it's so close
to the holidays. It's just everybody else was like being disrespectful.
I guess I'm gonna take a horse flight spirit.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
The spirit is the real for horse spirits. The reason
I had to wear all my clothes plane way.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
You told me about that always because you were smart.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's a smart.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I'm gonna say it's.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Bavvy in a way to where I got to where
I was going when a lot of people wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's definitely giving ninety sitcom.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, this is yeah. I wish it was like it's a.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
B plot in like a sitcom. This is three weeks again.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
This was unfortunately in my thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Chips in yours a racists.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Money stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I can't tell me. See, this is my god daughter
and I'm just trying to protect her. Hun you may
have been a moon to her, but to me, she'sus star.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Why did chat on that? Man? Welcome Little Mama's and
gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of my mama told me.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
The podcast or we dive deep, deep into the pockets
of black conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And we don't teach you anything. We ain't got it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Brother, if we had it, we'd give.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It to Come on fresh out, baby hit me on
the fifteenth, I might we got library books to return.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
We ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Come on, I got DVDs from the library. Remember doing that? Oh,
I do remember doing that. That was a big time.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
That was huge if you had a good library nearby. Yeah,
you hit a lig You know.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
What hurt me was that the library had DVDs before
I did. Like, the library had DVDs before I had
a player in my home. We were mad late on it. Though.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's not good to be behind the government.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah, that's not a good sign when the government is
willing to invest in.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
This huge for you. And my mom is still like,
I just don't know. I just don't know that hysterical.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I never returned anything to the library.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh no, no, it was a horrible, horrible civil servant. Okay,
I want to talk some of you were a library though.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh, I mean in Kansas City, like pretty like normally
my mom still go to the library to print stuff and.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, yeah it's still I fight the library really and
you can vote.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, you can vote there too.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Exactly. I voted in a library last election. You went
to the library and voting.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
We usually go to like some school that they've taken
off for a gymnasium.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I like that too for us. Actually the library. Oh boy,
who is a fan and offer to give me a
library tour? And I forgot to do that. Shout out
to the man who works in the Denver Library the
downtown you know who you are. I'm sorry I didn't
get that tour.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
He was just going to give you a tour of
the library like another time. But yeah, but like why
do I sounds like you want to get a kidnapped.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You want to come in and just see what we
got going on? Being national d He wasn't. He was
like he was like hey, he was like, this is
my ship. If you want you come in, I'll show you.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Was this like a nice library?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah it wasn't. I feel like you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, yeah, is he a librarian.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
He was a library where people go for books more
than Wi Fi.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
But is he a librarian?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think he was running the whole ship. I don't think.
I also think that's an outdated term. I think it's
like I think it's like garbage man or stewardess. We
don't say librarians, and yes we do. I think he
was a book ass nigga. I think that's what his
card said. He said, doctor Dewey. That's so yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Right man, Yeah, I think that sounds cool. And if
you're ever Denver, if you're back in Denver, I think
you should hit up your boy.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah. I'm back and not going to the library though. Damn,
but I have a conspiracy. I'm sorry, that's not.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
What Yeah, go ahead, no please.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm starting to think this three quarter zip thing is
a sy op to get it's all used to wearing
uniforms in the future, because done it seemed like it
kind of popped up out of nowhere. It seemed like
it popped out out of nowhere. It's not really that cool.
I mean, grant, I just wore a three quarter zip
to a wedding. I'm not like, mm hm, you know,
better than it? Not not better than it at all,
but it just feels like a weird It also feels

(05:09):
like respectability coded. You might be you know, what I'm saying,
like you might be all in because like I think
kids dressed like assholes. We all know that, but like
I respect their right to do it exactly like what
like like sucking it up and being like nah, and
there's like a tech nerd.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I was literally watching a TV show last night to
go to bed, and because of all the tiktoks and everything,
I saw a kid going to sleep in one of
those sweaters that have like the zip, like the three
My mind immediately went to, that's.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
A nice three quarter zip.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's what they want.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It is slipping in.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's what they want because they want you to feel
like and I feel like it's getting coded at me
specifically because it's like, don't buy a Nike Tech, buy
a three quarter exact and they know that's the exact
age I'm at where I'm like, it's cold out, Am
I going? Am I going through? You know what I mean?

(06:05):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I will say that I think fashion in general has
hit this weird spot where everybody is dressing like a
dork and like not nerdy. I think there's like a
distinction that has now happened where it's like it is
full like big weird paints and.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Chunky shoes, silhouettes. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
That is fashion in a way that makes you do
go like, damn, they do want us to dress like
losers so that so that we just all get comfortable
with being made small.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It feels bro It feels fucked up because even like
the kids who are copying the two thousands aesthetic, they're
dressing like people. We didn't like that exactly, Like they're
not dressing like the coolest kid in they're doing like
the kid you want to punch them?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And that's like there is something to that, right, that's
a bomber. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Man, I mean you guys were in school in like
the early twenty.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
We're twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, we're pretty young guys.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, we're a young young guys.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't know why you would. I don't know why
you would say that, because.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
You guys are around the same ages like my cousins.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Nine.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, we'll go with that.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
You're older, cover you're a little cuss yea exactly exact.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Arthur was off the air for me.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, yeah, Arthur was very much on the air.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Not for me.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm I'm real young yo, Arthur, is the lie now,
I think you're lying for your yeah six seven demon
slayer bitch, Come on, come.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
On, social lions. Yeah, just hanging out. Yeah, well, my goodness,
my little fans like it.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I get sturdy that do that? That's funny.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
We should we should intro our guess we right into it? Yeah, no,
we we just start this is. There's no formality to this,
and we apologize for that, but we will not change.
We cannot change this is. This is that's how we
got so rich. That's how the money was made. These
art pieces did not buy themselves.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Wow. Man, you know this is the biggest collection of
black memoir in West West of the West Coast County.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
This is this right here is an artifact. I remember
when this was supposed to be published, that book, it
never came out.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
So the fact that you guys sat the book never
came out.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
The book came out. But if I did, it came out.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
If I came out, and then I say, I read
it by proxy.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I have a memory of like the press, not the
press run, but like when every news person was talking
about it. Me and my dad, who I barely talked
to on the phone, and we talked about.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
This repaired your relationship with your father a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think that's a side effect that he wasn't ready
for it. But I think a lot of people probably
had that story.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I think a lot of people came together via OJ A.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Lot of Dad's called sons. Can you believe this?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Look, we haven't spoken in a while, but this has
been on my mind. Yeah, and I've run out of
other people to call.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, now that we're talking, I'm sorry James didn't pick up,
So now it's you.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
James is a dad's friend, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Our guest today. He's a hilarious comedian. You know him
from All Kinds of Things Unstable on Netflix. You know
him from the Kevin Lange Show. You know him from
his own stand up. He is on tour right now
with Hermann Rice. He's a wonderful guest. We're happy he's here.
Give it up for Aaron Branch. Everybody you call him,

(09:57):
it supposed to be here? Well I can't.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's hard. It was.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You'd be a fool to turn that down.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Are both good things to do on today? Catch the
bus I've had that day and sing gospel music.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, the same time.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
That day singing Mary Mary on the book. That song
got popular. Praised him song.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I I thought I liked gospel music because of that.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
They almost got me a few times gospel music. Same
Kirk Franklin almost got me when they made that B. E.
T Gospel Show.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, me tuned into that every single week.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was like American idol forgot. That was genius. That's
really smart. BT had some good ideas.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
They had a couple of There was like a two
to three year period where their programming was really on point.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah, they started AI whats world huh new conspiracy?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Look, man, if you're not going to take this seriously,
I don't even know what we're doing here, big dog.
If you just make up his nigga said, see this world, Aaron,

(11:32):
you came to us with a conspiracy theory that did that.
We are very excited about. It's one that has been
on our Uh. We have a list that is our
sort of extra weird list that we sometimes share with
guests who have not thought of an idea. And then
this came your way and you were like, oh, hell yeah,
let's talk about this. You said, my mama told me

(11:55):
the masillium network theory, tell me everything, you know, begin
first breakdown for our listeners what that even is.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yes, so Masolium is the idea of a network a
fun guy that communicate with each other, usually underground through
their roots. Right, So the way that a mushroom is
built in a lot of ways, it's actually kind of similar.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's actually the exactly Sorry, it's the opposite to.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Humans, but kind of similar in that way also, Right,
So we work from the brain, we go and we.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Go down right right, right.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
They go from I believe it's from the bottom, and
then they go up.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Some of us do work way though. What do you mean.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
He's a he's a first kind of.

Speaker 8 (12:47):
Talk about it, talk about it, talk about it, right,
ideas started his toes.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
All stuff comes from the bottom, and.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
They're like, I got a big idea feeling. So what
a lot of people don't realize is that fun guy
is really Erth's original organism.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Mmmm. Okay, and they were black. You really would have
been the best guess we've ever had.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I was really down there. I know I reacted poorly
to see this world, but I would have I was
willing to listen to you.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, I was really trying to be like they are musical.
I was like trying to find something.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
But fungus themselves are actually pretty incredible. So they're kind
of in a lot of ways like regulating like forests,
wild areas. Really like you probably have seen a fungus
just take over a fruit in your kitchen. It's pretty incredible.
They have powers. Right, So a lot of fungus we
probably are all familiar with, like psilocybin. So with the

(13:57):
idea that saying so you can ingest a, I also
have a stutter. So if I ever start stuttering sometimes,
don't awkward, don't look at me like IMI, don't editors
go crazy fucking So if you take that, it will

(14:21):
literally create the effect of what you get from, Like
you are literally like one with the earth and you're
seeing colors and you're giggling with your friends having a
fun time. Right, but there's other properties within other mushrooms
that have other effects with how it I.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Feel like I'm not explaining this like the exact way correctly.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Long story short, you're doing good. You take in you.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Take in a mushroom and an effect can happen.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Right. Let me start from the top, no.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is let you restart this. I think I think we're
exactly where we you need to be if I can
help a little bit. I think what you're talking about
is this network of communication between yes, between the fun guy,
and also what I understand from the mysolium network theory
is that they are then also able to utilize that

(15:15):
communication to advance other life forms around them. Exactly like
trees are able to nourish or know to help nourish
nearby trees because of this network of communication that's happening
under the earth.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So can can my celium take over like an existing
route network? Is my question?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Well?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
No, but let's say there is like a plant that
they see as a threat within that general area. What
they'll do is be like, Yo, we need to kill
this thing. And so then the my celium network will
then come in kill that plant off and then turn
it into nutrition that will literally then feed the mysilium
network for generations.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, green is made of people, it's a lot of Yeah,
it's a lot of communication underneath there.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
What they're actually able to do is pretty credible. And
also what they're able to do, like that's kind of
what I was trying to hit out with, Like the properties, right,
So like there's some like there's some things you can take,
like I believe it's like athletes will take it's a
parasitic what is it called, I used to know the name,
But you can take that fungus and it actually will
start to improve like the athlete's performance, and it stems

(16:20):
from it actually being like a mushroom.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Right, So it has a lot of really great properties.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
My theory is.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
My theory is, and hear me out, there's fungus and
parasites and everything. Are we zombies? Are we being controlled
by mushrooms? At some point? Have we taken in a
mushroom of some kind and it has taken over our
system and they have literally gone into our bodies and

(16:48):
we are literally just moving around. But I'm actually a mushroom.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Meaning I think I'm in control of my body, but
it's not. It's actually a parasite or a part Yes
that I ate back on my head. Yeah, that's we
all told for some reason, I guess, because.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
There are some mushrooms also that will do this with ants, right,
Like they'll take over an ant's body they can then
at that point control all of its limbs and then
from there after a while, the mushroom will then start
growing out of it once it's done, and then start
its next little control of that area.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
We've seen this.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
In other organisms. Why can't that not be happening to us?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh okay, now let me direct this your way. Are
you you had heard of this theory before?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
And and is that the way that you had heard
the theory?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
No, you added, I just heard it of the inground
network added a lot too.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
The in ground network is not really a conspiracy theory.
It is the truth. That's just that's legitimately like a thing.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I've heard about that I haven't the idea of. Because
here's my problem with the idea of the mushrooms having
taken over us. A that means it would have to
be transferred from mothers to be like the point of ingestion.
Can't be every single individual person, right, It would have
to be something that's transferred DNA wise like right, I.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Mean after a while, I mean I see that as
being a possibility.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, we know that.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Certain things stay in the DNA, right, and then if
you're born multiplied by your parents, right, those same things can.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Still be in your system.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, crack bam bam boom babies baby.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
So we know this.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, we know this.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Mushrooms isn't new crack.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
We know this.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
And this is a conversation I've had with a lot
of people actually, Like now we're back in my wheelhouse.
I've talked to people about this. We're going We're going
to get rich.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh in this story, you're you're pitching it. You're not
You're not threatening somebody that they're in danger. You're like, no, bro,
we could be Yeah on the forefront Stringer Belle of Mushroom. Yes, yes,
I had always heard this theory. Yes, And obviously The
Last of Us is maybe the best example.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's how it spread in that, right, So in that
in that game and then the show, the ways that
zombies come to be is through the spread of the
mushrooms or the fung gui rather sort of like creating
this network that then sort of like poisons the human body, right,
and they turn into these brain mushing whatever monster zombies.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Your argument is that it's less likely that we are
that we're going to turn into these crazy we already are.
We already are sort of in that.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean, so, how do you feel about the theory
where people talk about human consciousness got expanded because of suicide.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think that there's an argument to be made. I
think of those it's.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Because that to me feels like a more realistic idea
than we all are, like into art, because it seems
like if you had this giant network, like the mycelium network,
the idea of that is that it's all on the
same page, and we're all still very individualistic, even like regionally.
A thousands me to believe that it's not connected to

(20:15):
the same Well, we don't know. Fungus can be different
by region.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
You could have your California fungus had.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You got your New York, you got your New York.
You see what I'm saying, different modeling.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's okay, that's now I'm back in.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I will say that that as you asked about sort
of like this expansion of the mind, it reminds me
a lot of the story of Adam and Eve m
and talk about it and maybe and I like this energy,
this is good, this good Queen Church energy.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
But it almost makes it feel as if the apple
stands more as an allegory for something else, like like
like the like drugs, like sort of like the expansion
of one's.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Mind that I thought it was. I always thought it
was like pussy.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I think part of it, yes, for sure, that was
the original interpretation.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Of the apple was pussy.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
But I think the first dude who did drugs was
just trying ship. Yes, I think the third dude who
did drugs wanted some pussy.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think those numbers are fair. I actually will take
that guy.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
He was just he just picked up probably hungry. Yeah,
it was really weird.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah. It was a guy and he was like, he
told the second guy, Hey, this got weird.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Second dude already kicks it with him. You don't got
nowhere else to go?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, you ate that, I'll.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Lead it with you.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah. The third guy watched how he was and he
was like and then he was like, I was supposed
to hang out with these girls on Friday night anywhere.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Taking he looked real comfortable with himself. Was that wouldn't
mind being so comfortable?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
He was like, damn, I was just gonna take her
to throw stuff off the rock.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
That's called the Book of coup, That's what that is.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yea third guy, third guy, third guy is where we
really found innovation. You don't puttish at him an even No, No,
that's just two dumb dumbs trying stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Who the apple? The apple? So maybe maybe it was
pussy because you know, guy doesn't seem like that or
girls eating pussy.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't think you think that She figured out she
she might be lesbian.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
She figured she's gonna get that nut off.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
He's like, not, not in my goddamn house.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Just learned if you put your mouth on it.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
You guys ruined the Bible from me. I will never
be able to bring this is just because when we
read the literature in a climax, she.

Speaker 9 (23:09):
Said for me, shut my shut.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
She said with his mouth, which mouth?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
That's wild. I wonder if you feel that these mushrooms
have taken over what what do you think is their
goal with us? Because we aren't doing right by the planning.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's my that's mine. That's my big thing about it.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I don't see here's my whole thing, right. I mean
obviously like we are not doing right about the planet.
All right, we do not know that. But Bill Gates
had a quote that pissed me off a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Right, we're gonna divert for a little bit within the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
To do you hear what we talk about. The version
can't anything, you could go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Are you filiar with this?

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I am okay, great, the black dooey houses. I wouldn't
call him.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
What was it that he faked his license?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It was something like that too.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
He faked everything everything. He could be a gun of
college and that's what and had a number a number
of clients. I remember the number of patients.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Didn't He just got better than he better out of
prison recently and then they called him again.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, he went back in and then he went back in.
I don't think he was back being a college.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
He was doing something else with the medicine.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
But he was doing more.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
We don't need a machine.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
And I was just question myself, I don't hear anything
but listening, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Try later.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
That is really funny. That is so, I mean, it's
so I can see the entire thing.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, were painting a portrait, but we were saying.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Bill Gates had a quote a few years ago where
he said the human species is like a fungus, okay,
meaning that we are multiplying and taking over the planet
and not doing right about it.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
They also said it the man in black.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Really, so you're saying, Bill, I think stole a lot
of them.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
It was like.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
By being fair, come on, that's not a hero.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
It was his idea to make windows. Ye took windows
from somebody under the idea of like even he was
like MS dots before that, right, and it was like
you had to like code to get everywhere on a computer,
and then windows is what made it easier for like.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
His jobs was the only og. I feel like that
was actually coming up with the original life.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
He was not either he was a businessman. He was well,
he wasn't. He wasn't wasney act man.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I think I drank the kool aid on that because
the idea that he would take an asset tab and
was like iPads was a visionary.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
No, I think wasne act was a visionary man. I've
been reading I've reading crazy about these tech guys. Yeah,
I've been reading some crazy not this crazy book. Not
one of the ones that I imagine that's what's in
the book. Not one of the ones that's front facing.
Is the hero, well, no one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was like this guy was like the guy who
wrote this book was like an architect of a lot

(26:47):
of the things that made it terrible. His whole thing
is the idea that you should be paid for the
data that you supplied to these companies. That would instead
of like creating a wealth disparity, it would create a
middle class people who could earn on the data they're
giving these companies, so everything doesn't go to ship.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Well that just makes sense though in a lot of
ways too, because we're literally paying, we're putting we our
data is quite literally putting on their families.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
His book is blowing me up, and I don't have
anybody else to talk about. It was he worked, He
worked with Apple with Steve Jobs, but he was he
was like the real nerd behind him.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
He's still an Apple. Yeah, he was the the developer
that Steve Jobs basically was like, I am going to
come be the Michael Jordan of this ship, but without
the talent. Like he was like, I will be front facing,
I will make it branded, I will put on the
turtleneck and the little glasses currently doing where Elon is

(27:48):
just marketing.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Elon's really good at marketing.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
But to say if he's actually I don't think he's
actually a tech genius.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I don't think he's just literally the marketing.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
He just there's this wild ship in order to be
able to try to get the stock up. But he
himself is not actually the one that's like behind it,
like how do we make it?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Make me a rocket? Right now? No, I don't think so.
I don't have a.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Great understanding of what people think he is a genius of.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But he's cool.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think they thought he was cool until recently. Well
I do. There are a lot of I have a
few friends who work in tech who have assured me
that he is like a brilliant person, so he is smart.
That that is their claim. I don't have any evidence
of it. He certainly doesn't behave like it. But apparently
he's a smart dude who has like a lot of
insight on development, but isn't like deck.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
He's not getting his hands dirty.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
He's just tweeting out wild shit or just able to
like envision things that are possible that I'm not gonna
make up some ship but that no, I think a
facilitator is its own genius, right There is a type
of genius to facilitation. I would argue, or at least
my my reaction often when they tell me.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
That is.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I think. I think there's a level of generosity they
always give to a motherfucker with a billion dollars. Yeah,
like I don't actually believe how to get a billion dollars. Well,
once you have that, you all have to stay in
the room.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, even though it's all like speculative money. Anyways, I
just hate.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
That at that point it becomes about resumes. Yeah, I
will say that him and his brother, they did PayPal.
They did the damn thing.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
On that, right, and he was early, right, and that
was like late nineties.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
But so is that we're ready to guy? Right? He
was in there too.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
There was a couple of people Peter t Yeah, I
think Sean Oh, the guy from the Evil Dude justin Timberlake.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, yeah, man call it Facebook?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, how about was that easy?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
That's how they're getting rich.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I kind of think that is how they're getting rich.
And we just haven't played that game.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
You want to see. You have to be able to
put yourself in position to be the guy that says that.
But it's like that fairenose lady right. Yeah, she didn't
even she didn't even have a product, no, but she
just like dropped her voice and was like, yeah, we
could tell if you have diabetes and Walgreens and were
like a billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
But I think it's it's crazy because if that idea works,
it's a billion dollars that she earned.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
But see, this is why I think there's racism within
that too, Like what happened.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
To the Black Planet? What about the guy that made
Black Planet? Where's that movie?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Assassinated? You're saying like it's our game stop or something?
Aunts and uncle?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
She I was sat next to her as she scrolled
through Black Place, A.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Sad, sad story. I need to talk about this.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
But what I'm saying is where is that movie? Where's
the guy that was like you.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Gonna write it your group?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I don't know if I like him. Literally saw mister Drew. Listen,
we all like Luda Chris, but I wouldn't play We're
in't a mouth on my page. I'm just saying, we
don't hear about those tech geniuses.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Also, like we're like, where are they now?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You invented? Black Planet has gone? We were talking about
Black Plant. We talked about it maybe once a month.
I feel like it comes up a lot. Weird comes up.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
You know, we're super young we both had.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I did have a but you didn't want Black Planet.
I was not sold on the idea of a social
media page yet one Black Planet because I was late
to even my space.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I had one, but did not invest uh a monoicum
of effort into making that bad boy like turn into something.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
You know who did invest this white girl? My friend
fucked off a black plane. He met a white girl
on Black Planet, and at the time, I just remember
being like something about this is sinister, that's illegal, because
it was like, this has probably gotta be this gotta
be audacity. Oh five, yeah, six, yeah, And he was
like I met it on black Planet, and I was.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Like, also, that's that's late black planet. Yeah, black it's
probably black planet. For me, was like oh three, oh four, yeah,
this is oh five for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
That five.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You're just kind of getting like the rumblings of the
people that couldn't find it.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
They were still on the white girls. Yeah, white girls
like over there, that's a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I like that, Like it's nobody liked it, But nobody
liked that.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Why farmers only, I'm going to respect the fact that
I should not be on that app.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Why is it that you still feel like you should
go on Black Planet.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Why are you addressing it me like.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
He was on Black Planet?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
White girls?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Look y'all white women. Doc, He's a sick motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
No, I really didn't have I really didn't have a
pay Would you do you think your Black Planet is
still up? Like if we tried to find it, you
didn't delete it. I don't think so. That would be crazy.
But let me find your black Planet.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
That would be crazy. Black Planet. I'm gonna see if
the website is still up, Like did somebody buy it
at some point? I don't think anybody paid for Black Planet.
I think I think somebody dropped Black Planet in the airport,
and you dropped this.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Oh it's still up here defining ourselves, our moment, our world.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Type in Langston Kerman unless you have like a different
name type away.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
You got mean at the end, but the language arts
park probably right.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Wait, I found it and let me hold you down
play in the background.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
This is crazy boy boy.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
He could have done it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
He had a run.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Great. Yeah, whenever I hear that song, I'm like that,
o Marion. Things should have worked better than it would.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I think they're I think they're two tough individuals. To
deal with, and I bet them together was a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think the one is harder than the other. Though.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Do you think Mario is harder than bo?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I think was harder than this.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
He was a child star.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, this is full on diva a O. Marion always
seems so cool.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He still seems he's vegan now, Yeah, he seems nice.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I'm gonna say it, Fellas, and you're not gonna like
this news. I think Mario is a tougher cookie. Wow,
that's I think dumb boys from B two K.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Don't care, you know, not so fresh, no, no, no,
such so long they've been getting longer.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Them boys from B two K don't care for him.
I'm not saying they're good boys, but I am saying
that if if you're in a group and three of
the four are like fuck you, I start going.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But if you're the star.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Was he the David Rouffing of B two K? O, Mari,
I that's tough. I think rasby my.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Difficult. I think he was justin Timberlake, could be two K.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think that's true. I think it was just he
was the objective star of Beach.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I don't think it was just obvious.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, I don't think he was forcefully putting himself in
the You could just they tried to look to every
once in a while put Jay Bug towards the front,
but you didn't. Nobody was rooting for that.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
It was all.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
And little Fizz didn't. He didn't have anything. And I
don't nobody want what Rasby throwing. I think we can
all agree. Yeah, if you thought Rasby was your favorite
member of B two K, you're sick.

Speaker 11 (36:12):
What it is really when we look at classics, we
just we really like oldies.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
We're different than y'all. We like, Yeah, that's different.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Different. I remember when I was a baby watching the
Hot and Hair video. Yeah, I was a baby. Yeah, man,
me too, horny, little baby. Yeah, my first word was due.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Me.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
One of two things. It's either I or Tim Malan.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
You decide. Did it start like that? I don't know.
I just don't know what you meant by E I E.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I like like.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
We're just quoting the song I Knowing a Weird Day.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You don't like I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
It?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Do he made that up?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's called dot I dot, but I feel like he
took that from somewhere else. No, I don't know what
it's out, Are you from Saint Louis.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I'm from Kansas City, Okay, Solys was seriously.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, I'm going there on Saturday, the city. Yeah yeah,
Well any of you doing it's like a theater, I'll
tell you, okay, but no, no, no, no, I just don't
know what it is. But don't Broca.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
And I've seen some RECs of like places to go
like that, barbecue spots and anything.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
The abbreviation initially had a double mini, one that was
widely speculated to be sexual, and another later explained by
Nelly as a Saint Louis slang term for yes, bring
it on them. Niggas don't say yes, bring it on.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
He's lying about that fire dog.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
The initial and interpretation was eat it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Smoke a little, wheeds it. It was good for your Wait,
it was called eat it. That's what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
The initial that that The initial interpretation was that e
I meant eat.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
It under under the mammy, eat it, eat it. It
could be it.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
It just has like a ring to it.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
So he was just like, oh, I could maybe finesse
how I felt like, yeah, he was finessing, but he
was a thing prior.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I feel like I.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Heard that before.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I did not ever.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Look man, you were closer to it. Maybe maybe you
heard over the river.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, okay, we need to take a break.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
We should take a break. We're gonna be back and
talk more my celium theory.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Let's do it more air branch.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
My mama told me give them a little sumthing.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Go ahead, man, breaking when you really break it down,
wit just two honks and a negro serving the lord.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
We just two honks and a negro.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Singing I saw home.

Speaker 12 (39:20):
We're back, crazy, yelling crazy, I see you your.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, I have the exact opposite shirt of you.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
It says water dead plants. No, mine just says water
your plants. It's the same brand. I wonder, was it
like twenty dollars on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
No, I got it for like twenty dollars at a
market in New York.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
So somebody else got it for twenty dollars.

Speaker 12 (39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, and then they got it and they were like.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
Nocause those Instagram p that would have been crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Those those Instagram purchases come in hot and heavy to
the door. Yeah, you know how to get it before
your lady gets it, so you don't have to explain it.

Speaker 7 (40:10):
I do.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I think.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I was gone all week and I came back to
a few purchases and I was embarrassed to see the
packages sitting there.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Did she open them or she just she's very.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Respectful in that way. We don't. We don't open each
other's packages, but we do.

Speaker 11 (40:24):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Go, you have a package.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
That's it. That's how it feels too her Like it's
like what, oh what is this? Yeah, because I never
buy it around her, I never am like looking at
shit on the internet and then I'm like, oh, should
I get the shirt? I'm like, make it moves by
myself in the dark, firing it off, and then it
comes to the house and then I'm like, god, damn it,
that is actually so. But then you're in the bathroom

(40:52):
with this new dumbass shirt on that you probably should
have vetted, like.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
What did you do for a couple of wives?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
You guys are deep into life, man.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Bro We yeah, you know, we're both Christians. We love
the Lord, Love the Lord. Two Hawks, the Negro.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Singer on our song Aaron.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
We're still talking about about the mysolium theory, Yes, yes, yes,
And that got me thinking about and you already brought
some of this up about zombies specifically existing in other species. Yes,
there are ten real life cases I found on a
place called lives Live science dot com that breaks down

(41:39):
ten real life instances where zombie like relationships sort of exist.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Are they doing that Colombian prostitute dust?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
These are animals?

Speaker 6 (41:49):
So okay, so tell me about anything about what you're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
You haven't heard about that that there's like some like
you go down to Columbia down there where you're tricking
off one of those Yeah, of course they got some
ship that they like blow in your face and then
they could make you do anything. Whoa O man, Okay,
different different reddits.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
But I have no but I have seen it might
be Columbia of this plant that grows and like everyone around,
like in the community knows they can just take that,
do the plant and they get a little high.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I wonder where that was.

Speaker 13 (42:26):
It sounds similar to that marijuana that was available pretty
much everywhere northern California.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Count Trinity County County.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
You didn't say anything that we haven't heard before.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
They call it the Emerald Triumph. Apparently you you smoke.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
It and then you get a little more chance. That
life seems like it's more.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
You understand Reagan, because that shit does sound so good.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
When you're many high music hit it goes.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I love being high in the airport and just like
deep in my headphone and they don't know what I'm
listening to. It's not what they think.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I stopped when I was eighteen, man Holder, you know
that trip. I'm twenty, not twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
I'm thirty now. I just turned thirty.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Damn. Yeah, we can't assess embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Ship man.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
What was crazy?

Speaker 7 (43:29):
Though?

Speaker 3 (43:29):
What you're gonna do?

Speaker 9 (43:31):
I'm trying to get like you guys married a man
twenty eight skimmy Ohio.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
But it was weird being so young and like doing
that because the trip that I had that messed me
up was I went to Hell.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Brother, That was not we it was I don't know.
I don't think that it was.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
I think you got laced to my man.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I went to Hell and then Goofy's son Max from
the Goofy movie. He's just hand down and pulled me
back up to heaven. And after that, I was like,
I'm done with this ship and I opened my eyes.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I got bad news.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
But you did, PCP, I mean you, Pcpa, the only
one I think a lot of people probably, I don't.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
I don't say this to be judgmental. I'm only wanting
you to know that that is not what we does.
And if that was your experience, and I do believe
that happened to you, it was those individuals who gave
it to you because that was that was laced with
I believe.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Those kids are millionaires.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Now I'm still getting chicken tenders from my sets.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
So are they millionaires? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
The rich kids where I grew up with, Damn, they
really laced you that I went to private school.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
You don't think that that's what happens with weed, right?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I stopped. I don't know, and my mom like, everyone's
just having brother.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I'm not right now, I'm in high this whole time,
I'm in the room with you.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I still got left.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I haven't got one.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
It's really funny in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
I'm too scared to do it.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
That's okay, you don't have to do your first time. No, no,
no no.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I was like a stoner in high school and then
I was mainteen and I was like I'm good on that.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
And I really never picked it up again.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Maybe it's better. I don't want to bring you into
a habit you don't need. But that's not what the
weed's doing anymore anymore. Is crazy though. I mean even
at that point, it's not what it was doing you
just something bad happening. Ye bad. Somebody didn't take care
of you like the should. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
It was a bummer and and what was hell like
we're not going to delete it, fire and stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
But then Max was like he's just down to grab
up here.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
It just shows like I was literally a kid. I'm like,
what's going on in my brain? Is insane?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, No, brox Sayne was sexy as fun to me
is yeah, of course she was Puerto Rican coded Mmm
is that would you say? I don't like the way
you said it, But yeah, I knew she was not white,
but she wasn't black.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
She was Afro Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, I thought it was. But her dad threw me
off a little bit because he had that they always do. Yeah,
he had that weird like kind of military cut.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
But he has studied this film. It was the first
film as a child that I felt related to.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Do you know why there's a conspiracy theory as to
why actually is.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
But yeah, but there's a reason why that movie made
such a difference in the black community because I was
always wandering. No, it's not that I always wondered in
my mind. I was like, why is it? Did some research.
Come to find out, it's because obviously, like the nineties
was like Disney's like.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Going in America. No no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
That to me actually was what sparked my curiosity because
it was always like me and my cousin's favorite movie. Yeah,
and then they made that and I was like, so
this is a universal experience. Come to find out, it's
because in the nineties Disney had like banger banger classics, right,
we had like Lion King, and then we had like Aladdin.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
We had like you say, we Little Mermaid. I've heard
them exactly exactly, I just saw.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
But they were making so much money from these movies,
and what they decided to do was the DVD market,
speaking of which was going crazy. So they're like, what
have we made like cheap sequels that were just straight
to on demand meaning like DVDs vhs is that we
could just push out that you could just buy the
store for like a fraction of the costs instead of

(47:43):
going to the movies and the goofy movie.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Both movies were a part of that program. You're saying
it wasn't a theatrical release, It was not.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
It was all it was a theatrical release.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I saw the well, the amount of sequels they were
making were to be able to make it to where
you had it.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Literally it was munity faster, is what I'm trying to say.
Because of every Disney sequel that I remember as the
kid was straight to video. Yeah and a half exactly, Yeah,
fucking Aladdin two and yeah Aladdin three.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
There's a far's.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Return is Aladdin two, and then King of Thieves is
Aladdin three. That's when his dad shows up.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
His dad is a can thieves.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Literally, bro, Yeah, it might be Prince of Thieves, but
one way or the other Latin three.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
But all those movies were being made and they were
pushed out so like a lot of us saw them
at daycare or like a lot of us saw them
like after school programs because they were just cheap movies
they would just put on in the background. And that
movie Thieves, that movie in particular struck a nerve.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
For a goofy movie because I was a big fan
of goof Troop the show.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I love the goof Troop. What is that story?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Is a story?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Is incredible? No, they really, they really did their thing,
and then they trying to make it. They stopped doing
that thing immediately after. Yeah, you were like, we're done
with it was for black people too, right, But that was.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
For dark skin.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
That was for dark skin.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Dudes. Yes, okay, okay, comes down said, oh my god,
it was like, okay, a lot of purple, a lot
of purple. Away cleaning dunk oh Man Disney. That's the

(49:32):
crazy ship. I've never heard anybody say. Don dudes, Couzy's
name was dark.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
I don't know. Now.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Now let's get dangerous. Sounds fucked up. Now it's now
it feels conspiratory. That's that's the song.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
That turn on the flash. There are ten examples of
parasites or fung gui taking over the bodies of animals

(50:18):
in the Animal Kingdom. There's a parasite that can put
pill bugs in deliberate danger that basically will like pill
bugs in the polies. That's what we called them growing up.
Some people call them potato bugs.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I've heard.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I don't care for that one. Big, but as I
knew them can apparently be taken over by a parasite.
They eat bird poop, and sometimes this parasite will get
into bird poop as a way of, like I guess,
feeding itself. And then the bug eats the bird poop,
gets the parasite inside of it, and then that parasite

(50:54):
grows inside and multiplies inside of the roly poly, basically
makes it do a bunch of ship it doesn't want
to do. And then when it dies, the bird eats.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
It and it goes back into the bird.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
But it'll like make it go where a bird is
like guide it towards its death.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Oh so it's ultimately okay, okay, it wants to go
back to the bird from once it can.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, it I guess eats in the bird and then
they can like sustain themselves in the bug until they
get back inside bird bulls.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, nature is not well. I don't. I don't feel
no kind of way when people are like I care
about all natural, It's like, oh, natural is savagery. It's
trying to kill you. You need to get some of
this artificial. We all live longer. Eat a McDonald's hamburg. Yeah,
smoke a cigarette cigarette.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
There are barnacles that apparently can turn a crab into
like a crib for their babies. That like the barnacles,
will grow inside of the crab and let their babies
grow until they burn stout, and then they get to
do it again when they find another crab to to
implant themselves in. There are what we call it. There's

(52:10):
a parasite that pushes into wolves apparently to make riskier decisions.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
That's what I'm scared of is the wolf one.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
So this one's weird.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Is no.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
The demeanor Alpha, that's just a guy with no friends,
that personality traits big the reason that maybe he just
kind of smells funny. Wolf pack of one, I'm a one.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
So apparently there are wolves the wolf strings and yellow
Stone Park. That basically how am I reading this single
celled organism that basically reproduces in cats, right, and they
have the potential to just reproducing cats. They're not necessarily
taking over the cats, but they do cause a disease

(53:03):
inside of the cats. But they believe that wolves were
then infected when they were like interacting with a cougar
somewhere out in the world. Yeah, absolutely, that's what I'm
talking about, and once they infected the wolves, they are
more likely to exhibit risky behavior.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Oh my god, that's scary.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, they basically turned themselves into like fucking jackass wolves
hitting each other, jumping off his ship. That is terrifying, man, Yeah,
that is horrible. And then the one that I think
is most important to talk about and really connects to

(53:47):
the larger theory at hand, is these ants. You talked
about the ants, and specifically it comes from this. Uh,
I ain't gonna even pretend to pretend it's could dieps Mama,
that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Man, there's gonna be a dark He's like dark. You
guys look darky niggas love.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
When I was growing up, they just looking at the.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
War orange. Yeah, the color black.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
So, this fungus infects ants and uses chemical signals to
basically direct the ant away from their nest to make
them like not a soldier ant anymore, but just like
a ant that serves the fungus, and they'll like basically
keep moving around doing fungus ship, dropping more and more
seeds off whatever, until eventually it like grows so large

(54:51):
inside of the ant that it bursts through them and
becomes uh, you know, just a big ass mushroom out
here doing like we can at Bernie's with all these
different creatures.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, and just doing all these different tasks and just
using the host body until it's.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Like I have no Now.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
This is where it gets nasty for us, okay, is
because this fungus is also something that that scientists are
studying because it has like potential to increase metabolisms and
has like uses they think as a way of like
a weight loss thing or like a health beneficial right.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Right, and they're already trust on it. That was the
name cordyceps, I think it was called also, and that's
when they use those so.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
They are studying that stuff. And my fear, as it
is always my fear, is not as much what you're
theorizing of, like all the marking up really struck.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
They got me bad, I'm huming.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
But my fear is not that the mushrooms have already
taken us over through ingestion, but that we are going
to fuck around, tinker with these chemicals enough and create
in a lab a way for these mushrooms to become
these sort of like violent takeover machines that they can't
currently be They can't. We can't ingest anything according to
the documents, we can't currently ingest anything that is parasitic

(56:16):
enough to like fully take us over because right now
you would just die like so like.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Like fungus or otherwise, there's nothing. There's no parasite we
can have.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
We don't have any evidence of like zombie shit, what
is that prote I bet, I bet there are things
that can allow someone to control you, But I don't
think that there's anything that like where the fungus itself
is like moving our limbs type shit.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Okay, right, but because they're not that like sentient or
whatever exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
But see, that's also another conspiracy where it's like we
the way that we classify intelligence is so simplified by
the fact that like I have.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
A brain right before I know everything.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
But I'm like, we can already tell even just with
the evidance you've just shown, there's clearly intelligent and beings
that do not have a brain.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
And intelligence I feel like sometimes is like really lateral
and we don't look at like a four like the
most intelligent things are the things that last live the longest. Yeah, cockroach,
I thought it was those those greenland sharks.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I mean greenland sharks live a really long time for sure,
but in the span of of like not humanity of
the earth. It's like fungus, it.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Is those things are smarter than us, Like yeah, okay,
we get yeah, we got diet soda, but like how
long we last? Yeah, black guys fifty five? It's low.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
It's low man, right now, right now, let's get health screenings.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Watch a little dark winged duck. Don't point me now.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Nah, you've been nasty. I do think. I think what
what often scares me as it relates to conspiracy theory
is less of what the Earth is planning for us
and more what we are planning for us via the earth.
Like it is humans fucking with things that often turned

(58:30):
things into something nasty. And I don't imagine that like
mushrooms fung guy are necessarily like raging against us, the
wag last of us would would present or even in
your theory of them already taking over.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
I was just being present within the body already.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I do think that there might be not craving that
you might have. You're like, why am I crazing pizza?

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Hood?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
You know what I mean, like those small things too.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
So what I'm saying could be a funngus it's already
within you that you have to feed the host, you
have to feed the like all these different things where
I'm like, it would make sense that they're already present.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
And certain actions not my day to day, but certain
actions are sometimes something crazy, yes, And there are examples
of that, Like tapeworms are that exactly, Like you get
a tape worm in your stomach and it consumes so
much of the food that you eat, and you find
yourself having these massive cravings that you know you're being
malnourished and fucking taken over by this giant thing.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Man.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
I was hotep for three months, okay this about It
was hotel for three months.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Three months. It was during COVID.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I think everything that don't even count.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Come on, man, we all got a hotel, We all
made some we all made some sour dough.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
About that. One of the things I remember.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
There was riots, like of course you were going to
get astivated.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
When the second they told us black people couldn't get it.
I have a lot of e statements I need to do, man,
I was talking crazy. I called my father with bad Yeah,
you'd be safe out there, man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
We'd hate for.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Something to happen to you myself if not worried.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
But one of the things I remember reading within my
hotel literature was the idea of pamphlets exactly six pamphlets.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
That I was giving a book that I was getting
if it is if it is a book, it's poorly constructed.
You got one of those book and you're like, why
is this not made like a book?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Why reading right to left?

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Lying, yeah, yeah, yeah, Why is the back of this
ebony covery?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
It's a jet magazine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I don't have this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
But the thing is is that it was just space
out eating and drinking, meaning that if you were to
eat something right before you drink water or any liquids,
you want to wait about fifteen minutes until then you
actually start to just food because of the potential of
fungus growing in the body.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Whoa and the water would feed said, fungus are the
water plus the food mixed up together with them creative
fungus to grow in the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Fungus. Yes, And that's the thing is so many hoteps
are buff that you believe them about physical feed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I'm like, what are you doing like potatoes. It might
be the strongest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Radicalized group, which maybe I don't want to say in
case the governments Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I think that's fair. I think I think pound for pound, uh,
they are big and buff. I worry that that that
farmland strength is still it doesn't appear as buff, but
it is a threat, physical threat. Yeah, oh you mean, yeah,
that's interesting. I think a motherfucker that lifts bales of

(01:01:48):
hay all days. Yeah, it's a type of strong that
can manage against the big old jacked hotep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Dude, you've really thought about this?

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Yeah, No, I do want us to win the war
if if at all possible, and so I really got
to like look at the numbers and start calculating.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I do think there's a lot less rural working strong
guys than there ever was before. Oh you think so,
I've been in a rural town. They're not all farming.
Let me tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
You think more than like like sitting around spinning a
glass dick. Yeah, yeah, I think that's real. I think
farming is a dying industry exactly, even in rural areas.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
It's like most of those people are farmers.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
And the even when you have a farm. You are
you are paying below below minimum wage to a bunch
of people who don't look like you to do the
actual work. That that otherwise farmers weren't doing right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
That's a fair point. I have something I want to say,
and this made me think about this. Also, I've never
said this out loud. Well, I said my girlfriend, Okay,
respond have you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Like skin on a darkling duck? She's alo, Okay, okay,
closer to our side, she.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Walked, But did you guys see the substance?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
This?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
The list made me think about this. The substance told
me she thought I wouldn't like it. She said, well,
it would make me angry. I would argue, it might
be the great Have you seen it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I haven't seen it. I was put off by the
amount of gore I was warned about, you know, like Gore.
I'm not big on Gore, so it is very gory.
But yes, and no, not Gore.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I like thrilling movies, though, ok that one did have,
especially at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
That was a lot of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I heard it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
But the movie itself is about the idea of like
kind of like being within, like you take over like
a young body, and then you are now a young person,
and then you pop out. Now you're this old person
the same plot as the Nutty Professor. Watching that movie
and I was like, I started laughing halfway through the film.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
And my girlfriend was like, what are you?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I was like, this is just the Nutty Professor.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Anyone that has seen this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I want to see if anyone else had thought that
they took the Nutty Professor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Comment comment, if you think the substance is the same
as the Nutty Professor, it is. I don't the acting
feet Eddie Murphy pulled off incredible film.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
And comment on who plays the part of Reggie in
the substance?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Who is the substance?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
I'm telling you who like hold up? Hold up?

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
Is that mean more?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Gary?

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
You make so plain?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
It's just it's just it's insane. I literally left the movie,
went on Twitter. I found one tweet about it. That's
one random person that that medium were on the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Same frequency for whatever reason. He was like, this is
and yeah, I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I wish I mean, movies are the Nutty Professor? I
was the substance? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Jamie Fox said this in that new Eddie Murphy documentary
and it was something I've maintained for a long time.
I think that it is a shame.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Basketball should be played news.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Great, hands off if you want to hoop with me.
I do think that that Eddie Murphy should have won
an Oscar for the Nutty Professor.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Yeah, man, the Nutty Professor. This is the only time
I will truly cop to my age he should. I
was not. I was in Atlanta that summer and we
saw The Nutty Professor in theaters that summer in Atlanta.
There was an Olympic Games going on. This was bigger.
I've never seen anybody do that in a movie. People

(01:05:49):
were like, it's never been replicated. It felt like people
were going to die. Yeah, like the table scene with Hercules, Hercules,
it felt like people were not gonna make it out
of this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
And you have on understand that this was before you
could recirculate that experience. You had to go to a
movie to be able to have that feeling again.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
We had to wait in line. We waited in line,
like the line was around the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
You niggas was seeing that movie multiple times over and
over because it was Yeah, it just was so big
that John Q.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
John had a similar no man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
American class. But we're talking about I'm not saying that
it's all the same thing. Denzel Washington, Eddie Murphy, are
you kidding me? No, Aaron, You're sick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
You're going crazy. This has been such a good interview,
and you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Eddie Murphy did the impossible. Incredible filmy an incredible. I
like it a lot. It doesn't do what Nutty Professor did.
Nutty Professor's Nutty Professor is a feet just in just
in his willingness to put on the makeup every day
is big enough feet that you go award this man. Yeah,

(01:07:05):
he did the he did the impossible. Nobody will ever
do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
No, it's an amazing the actual man. I think about
the mechanics of having to shoot that scene at the table,
but they had to shoot it with every character and
then sit ins and then like I guess they would
play it back like the timing aren't everything. It's just crazy.
It's amazing. I will say I'm laming this because my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I love Norby.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Oh man, I love Norbit so much.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
And off I will say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I love it so much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Body professor to do dog get me wrong, my uncle
professor to my uncle who did not like me, took
me to the movies to go see the Nutty Professor
trying to fix you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Nutty Professor too is not the I but I'm not
being like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
I wasn't alive when the first I think so that's
also why so the second one had more of an
impact to be I think.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
But even then, we're gonna take another break. We We're
just gonna We're gonna take a break.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Man, We'll be back.

Speaker 14 (01:08:07):
And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm short, I'm bold, I
can't get any holes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I've been fighting my entire life and I won't stop fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Fight the good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Brother. Man. This has been.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
They have been going through it, but I bet things
are going to turn around soon. They invented a solution.
What what a two peg?

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
For a while?

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
There there's a there apparently is now well. First of all,
I believe it's USC or U C L A, I
can't remember which one, but they are developing a product
that apparently can regrow hair like a pill. I think
I think it's some sort of like cream situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
And then additionally, I've been seeing a bunch of articles
about a basically like a lab out of Taiwan that
also has developed like a product or some sort of situation.
I can grow your shit back in like twenty days.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That kind of seems like it never seemed like that
part of a thing to figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
To me, what do you think it's been keeping them
from doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I think we just had other shit going on, and
now we're there's enough money and like enough people are
getting like cosmetic surgeries that it's like, you know what
I mean, Like it's like the stigmas down, and I
feel like, think about how many men we know who've
done it, right, Yeah, and like guys aren't even lying
about it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
No, Yeah, they'll tell you straight up. Yeah yeah, yeah,
that of got my shit f yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
which I don't. I'm I'm dark skying. I don't think
I would, but I never was worried about going bald.
I think if I went bald, I just might be bald.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Same but both of you guys can rocket though, I'm
like pick, I'm using my imagination.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
It would be I have short, short hair anyways. Yeah, yeah,
I'd make peace with it. I would have to like
get jacked a little bit. But he does stronger because
when this is low.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
This has to get bit Yeah, you know what I mean. Age. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Also I think when when light skinned men are bald,
they can't look sick faster than dark skinned men.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
That's yeah, I never thought.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Because he looks he made sure you knew he was
a little bit jack.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
His voice like I'm not even it's avoid it's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Really calming the goate that does a lot of work
for him as well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Also, when you do spoken on poetry, it's almost kind
of demanded that you're a little bit bold.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
M it's like expected mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Bald dreads sometimes combined.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, dreads seems tough when it's like but it starts back. Yeah,
that seems that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
When or when it's like you got dreads, but there's
big space in between.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Oh yeah, that's the harder one. I think when there's
like a lot of like it's just skin. Yeah, but
you got little there's like little town crazy, but there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
There's a lot of thief dooms.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
There's no connective suburban tissue.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
I'll go back to my home church, back home and
like it's always it's still the same people that are
still going there, same people in.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
The choir, but all the dudes that had dreads back
in the two thousands still have it. But you're seeing
those bald spots up here. I think it would.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
They're not letting it go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Bro, that would think it would be the hardest to
go bald as a dreadhead. Yeah, that would. Really.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
You've committed too much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
You've got a whole lifestyle. You got all these drums
in your apartment. Now let it go. Grow up? You
are all these knit bos. What are we gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Yeah, you convinced yourself those essential oils were doing something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah, you've been to every goddamn reggae festival in your town.

Speaker 8 (01:12:13):
That's a movie right there, reggae festival. No starting Tom Green,
But dud, that's let go of his dreads.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Oh man, that would be sad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
To come into age movie from someone in their sixties.
Oh this is like a serious drama. Yeah, it's called
How Jarell Got His Gloves Back.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
For some reason, I feel like that movie with a
man going to Jamaica to get a young woman. People
don't like that, nearly care for that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I don't even think about that.

Speaker 11 (01:12:45):
Yeah, he's just down at the resort, like, do your
work here, right, because she wasn't even Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
We're just doing what just doing that? That's soy Diggs
was Jamaican in that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Ted Diggs was Jamaican.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
How old was he supposed to be? Because I feel
like now you didn't look at him the same.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
He was like twenty something, I think, and she was
like meant to be like fifty. Okay, because it was
a book, right as Terry was a book.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
It was a book.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
My grandma had it right there in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Okay, in the bathroom. That was that was pooping literature, apparently,
I remember it's right there in the corner. Just say
it was a steamy concept.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Wings coming out down. That's what he means, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
What he thinks. I'm just trying to think his Grea
wanted to have a good time. I'm sorry, she was
raising a family. Clearly she has the bathroom time. Think
about Ted Diggs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
We have a voicemail, simply must we must listen to.

Speaker 7 (01:13:49):
We can play it now, all right, So I'm gonna
say this, y'all keep wondering why people do what they
do in the voicemail when that's the fucking message that
is so crazy, all right? Anyway, Uh. I can't say
my mama told me this because we're not really on
speaking terms. But I'm convinced that all these black focused

(01:14:10):
dating gurus, femininity coaches, so self proclaimed image consultants are
the FBI, the FBI and CIA or whatever other three
letter organization that tries to control the black people think
of themselves and how they treat each other. I'm pretty
sure I heard somewhere and I'm I'm sure it's valid
that the Mormons were like sponsoring like the tradwife content

(01:14:32):
on TikTok and Instagram and all these other places. And
then we know historically the FBI did try to get
in a way of movements and and and add psyops
to how people think and how people treat each other.
And it's in the mediate, it's all these things. And
I truly believe that they did not want black people
having forming strong bonds relationally or on a community level

(01:14:58):
outside of capitalis and white patriarchy, and so they paid
idiots like Sheer seven and Kevin Samuels and fresh and
so I don't know when that is from there in Canada, right,
but whatever, maybe they did.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
All these.

Speaker 7 (01:15:18):
He did.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
That's a good point though, I will say that the
the ways that these people have infiltrated does feel nefarious.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Agreed, It's time though, Like we know within the Black
Panther movement in Chicago they had FBI CIA informants infiltrating
social groups on the South Side of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And Los Angeles. Right, Yes, they killed Bunchie Carter. He
was like nineteen, Yeah, but yeah, that I mean, we know,
but you do think that the idea of that these
things have come into the community in a way that
seems super destructive to the idea of what a black
family is, right, which has kind of always been under attack.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
And I think the the idea of a Kevin Samuels
in particular, or people like that both pitching I can
make you more family presentable ready while simultaneously undercutting people
who probably were heading in the right direction. Yeah, it
feels very like intentional in a certain way. And the

(01:16:25):
way that Nigga died does feel a little suspicious.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
It was finally being like, you know what, everybody's needed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
That, Like Kevin, remember, you're starting to sound like Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
To ask you how much they weigh you guy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Yeah, I do start to go like, all right, well,
it does feel very into intentional that that we get
this upsurge of people telling us how to behave. But
it also is weird to me how many people buy
into these things despite no one I actually know really
being bought into these.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
That does feel odd that I the in though I
will say there were more dudes I knew, more dudes
than I care to admit, who were really into Kevin Samuels.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Really into them, are just like fascinated, fascinated. I guess
fascinated is more I've been people. If I'm thinking about it,
it was more fascinated than people looking to him as
a guru. That's how I feel is I definitely have
people in my life who had who followed Kevin Samuel. Yeah,
but I think it was the way that I follow
some sick ship that I just want to be like, well,

(01:17:48):
it's entertaining to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
And I think there might have been more younger people though,
because I will say, like, at least with my own
experience with Kevin, I my mom's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Last person, my mom's last voice of sam Like me
and my friends thought it was funny like this dude
is what, like what is he talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
This is crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Like again, and also where comedians, just trying to be
aware of what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Then I go home. I go to my mom's boyfriend's
house and he's watching but he's horrible. So he's literally
on the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Couch watching it, and my mom is just sitting there
as in like this is like Dogma, And I'm like,
this is what they watch.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
That's what he's watching. Now he's like sixty five, sixty four,
Kevin Samuels is dead. Yeah, of course what I'm saying
this was like before me died, since the Towers bro.

Speaker 9 (01:18:40):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
But it's like he's straight faced watching it, like consuming
the content, like this guy knows what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
And I'm my mom, leave, this is not it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
That's how this man thinks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
I'm like, that's problematic.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
But I do think it was that demographic more taking
it seriously and then a younger generation probably like forty
and down, being like this guy's watch.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I do think that I think it was for kids,
if kids are old people to believe in, and then
everybody else to marvel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
But I do think that it's not as much the
existence of a fan base. I think everybody who sort
of reaches a certain scale does accumulate some types of fans.
But I'm saying that the rate at which we discovered
this person doesn't feel honest to the actual It feels conspiratory.
He feels like they saw a nasty thing and then

(01:19:29):
they were like, pump it out exactly. And it's to me,
the conspiracy feels less about like Kevin having a negotiation
with the FBI and being like, I will be an
informant for you. I don't think they need that anymore.
I think they can just find a nasty motherfucker and be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Like, yeah, there's a bunch of people want to do
it all over the internet right willing to do that shit.
I want to say, even on the right wing too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
On top of that, oh yeah, the right wing, I
would say like, problem, what's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
This, what's this ship falls through where you think we're
going saying because we are let down, we were let
down the liberals soon enough, I think about and then we're.

Speaker 15 (01:20:09):
The strike that from the record. I want that stricken
from the record. I don't like how that felt.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
But I mean that's the problem though, because I'm like
all these like right wing like pundits, especially I went
like on a deep dive like last week because I
was like, I don't pay enough attention to right wing
media enough, I know, but just to know what they're
talking about, because it's just it's a weird time. There's
a lot happening.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
I find it even more convoluted than is. Like you
can watch CNN and be like this is biased, but
it's not necessarily that stupid. Then you watch that shit,
you're like they're lying and this is stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
And people are just taking that in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
All ages are taking this in, and I'm like, there's
just so many media companies that are just backing these people.
There's so many like packs, Like it's so convoluted that
it feels like they're trying to actually pay someone is
paying to divide.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
This, and I think it's it doesn't even have to
be like that mysterious. We individually pay money to be
able to get more views on things you advertise. You
do things to be able to like pump out when
you're going on tour, when you want this thing to

(01:21:24):
be seen by more people. They're just doing it on
a bigger scale and they have a bigger budget for
making sure that like X and X is being sold
to a community for sure, And yeah, maybe you're sober
enough and healthy enough not to buy into it. But
if you watch enough Kevin Samuel's videos, you start to
become endeared to versions of those conversations.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, you do have to watch that whenever because you
start hate watching it, and then it starts to make
sense just just because the amount of it that you're
consuming is just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
What I I It is part of my routine now
and now you know, nine times out of ten he
said it was crazy to me, but that one out
of ten he's onto something. Yeah, and now he's not
an unreasonable person.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
And it was the same thing with the Fresh and
Fit podcast also the same way, like all those different
kind of like tearing down women in a place of
like really going back.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
To like the old school mindset of looking to them
to be fresh and fit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Melt felt more like for the youth.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Yeah, it's like that's what they wanted to do.

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Yeah, those guys are tough because it's like, how do
you watch that? And I think those guys are losers.
That's that's always that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
I used to live with a twenty one year old
exactly that was like yo, fresh and Fit, like I
was like, but he didn't like and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Not trying how to intervene. I'm not trying to directly
be out beef A podcasts, whatever, But look at those
guys and be like, this is not how they're laying.
They're they're laying. How do you not look at me
like they're lying.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
How many bodies you got? How many bodies you got?
It's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
That's cool?

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Exactly like he ain't fresh and he ain't fit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
I don't understand. I think one might one is fit,
and neither one of them are fresh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Yeah, yeah, nothing about this feels like a person I
could begin to admire.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
No, no, no, or takes seriously. Yeah, I want to
hear what they say.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Yeah, exactly, let's finish this voicemail.

Speaker 7 (01:23:21):
Right, all these world DJ academics, like, I'm convinced they
influence both those creators to get both black and women,
black men and black women to be more antagonistic towards
each other, and then we're all single and desperate and
mad at the world, and then we're gonna kiss like
white Len's ass and have like all. Well, anyway, what
I'm trying to say is them niggas of syops from

(01:23:45):
the government that's what that's what I've deduced.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
All right, but you be deduced deduced it. Yeah, I
this doesn't feel that far off to me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
I think the sad the sad part to me feels
like it's not even that they're fully syops as much
as they're doing it themselves and then it could just
be put in positions.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
That is a very sad reality.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
It's not like the government came and was like do this.
These losers were already doing this. The government was like,
let me just move this around.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
I'll look the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Yeah, yeah, sure, Because like, do you guys believe in
algorithm control? Do you think there's like someone who can
control the algorithm anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Like it depends, Man, I go back and forth on that,
but I think it makes the most sense for.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Yeah, because if it's not, then it's deified. Yeah right.
If it's not, then we then the algorithm is a god.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
You can, I mean, you can look at the numbers
on videos and see the difference of like something getting
twenty five likes on one person's page versus twenty five
likes on another person's page, and what ultimately becomes the
amount of quote unquote views on that thing. Yeah, and
it is just all in some ways kind of made up.

(01:25:02):
It's like, even with equivalent amount of shares and likes
and reactions and all the things, if you are popular,
your number will be larger than somebody who is not popular.
And that to me feels very intentional in that we
have chosen you as this scale of numbers that sort
of represent your worth, and this your scale down here

(01:25:24):
because you have this many followers. I don't think that
that's accidental, and I don't think that that's like the
algorithm just deciding for itself. I think people are being like, well,
we want more engagement. The best way to do it
is with somebody who has more followers and more sort
of active at least possibility of getting that engaged.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
And do you think just to go off like that thought,
do you think it goes off of also like a
narrative that specific person that's pushing out even if they
haven't even been contacted by some CIA or like FBI representative. Right,
do you think that they're being like, oh, this person
is put is already to your point, being a loser
and pushing out type of narrative, like you know what,
this bit's what we want to push out to Boom.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
I think it can be for sure, and I think
it it is easily trackable just through like the amount
of revenue that people are investing in the product, right, Like,
if you're willing to invest money into getting more views,
then we will continue to invest in your longevity on
this app because you represent more money for us, whereas

(01:26:26):
like somebody who's just on the app truly experiencing it
organically doesn't necessarily represent the exact same potential revenue. I
think it's I think money makes this all feel traceable
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
It makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Man, it's wild, dude. I think I just don't want
to look at the world like that. But there's so
many like signs that point to a lot of the
stuff that I'm like, it is just.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
That it's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Yeah, it means yeah, you know what I mean, Blacks,
see it's worse.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
It's over there. You see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
I will say, and this this will be our big
wrap up. I will say that this feels like it
connects nicely to this question of zombies and sort of
zomblification of the human being whatever. I think that ultimately
it's not so much that like a mushroom is taking
over our brain, but more that we are becoming like
numb to the ship that actually is taking over our brain.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
And the fungus is the algorithm that we go like that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
That's a beautiful way to end, punctuate this bad boy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
We figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Come on fungus among us, let's go. I think that
was yep, Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
That's what you chose, like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
You felt that whole part, like that whole part. I
think that was a listener. Oh, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Put Aaron, Can you tell other people where they can
find you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Man that you got going on?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
You can find me on Instagram, you can find me
on TikTok Aaron branch on everything, uh, and then announcing
the Forehead tour starting off top of January.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Let's go a little falling one top off the top.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, we're out here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
I didn't even show you the whole thing. No, get
a payp for there. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Yeah, of course, free the five costumes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
That's the slogan. I'm taking the forest free the five
of costs. Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
The Head phrases cool guy, Joke City seven on Instagram
December twelfth and thirteenth at Sports Drink in New Orleans.
If not, you know, I see you next year.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Hell yeah, And you can follow me and Langston Kerman
on all social media platforms. I'm still on the h
aspiring deadbeat too. That's what I've been doing time one
weekend month. No, I'm still on the aspiring debue tour.

(01:29:21):
Please please by the tickets show up. It's been great.
We y'all have been filling these goddamn shows up, and
I will want that to continue. I don't want this
to get sad at the end, So come see me.
Uh and most importantly, send your drops, your conspiracies, give
us a just give us an email at my Mama
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from you. And also also give us a call at

(01:29:44):
eight four four Little Moms. We love when you call us.
We love these voicemails so much. And uh and and
don't do drugs too much.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Bye, bitchy bitches.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
That one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
My Mama told Me is a production of Will Ferrell's
Big Money Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Created and hosted by Langston Krak.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Co hosted by David Bordi, Executive produced by Will Ferrell,
Hansani and Joel Monique. Co produced by Bee Wayne, edited
and engineered by Justin Kahne, Music by Nick Chambers.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Artwork by Doegon Kreeger.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
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