February 22, 2022 • 61 mins
Check out the re-release of My Momma Told Me with special guest Ayo Edebiri! Please rate and review the podcast here and bye, b*tch!
Are chemtrails real, and are they leading to riots and population control? Langston and his guest Ayo Edebiri (Big Mouth on Netflix) take a big old huff of some very scary stuff floating out in the world. Also, they bring Dick Gregory back from the dead for one last bit.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
If your voice was too smooth, I would be honest,
it would be a shamar more slippery path. A lot
of fun basic videos where you're sort of stroking your
chin wearing top hats in my house for some reason.
Why are you shirtless with the top hats? Smar more?
Is this a formal event or a beach day? You
(00:25):
tell me, I didn't know they made deep w next shirts.
Where that Oh my god, scary shirt. It's a scary shirt.
And I'll go on horning. Why both scary and horny?
It's it's hard to fight chips in your bails. Racist
(01:00):
honey term stuff you can't tell me. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Oh there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Welcome to another amazing, exceptional, devastating episode of My Mama
(01:21):
Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the
world of black conspiracy theories and we find out where
Beyonce is hiding the body of Sasha fears. Bring back
our girl, Beyonce. This is enough. Sasha Fierce was the
most talented actress, most talented performer in all of history,
(01:43):
and Beyonce felt intimidated, She got scared, and she kidnapped
our girl. And she took her from us in this world. Beyonce,
you better bring her back. We don't want your subpar performances.
We want Sasha Fears. I'm coming in hot today, ladies
and gentlemen, I'm your host, Lankston Kerman, my guest today.
She's furious at my suggestions about Beyonce and Sis. And
(02:06):
here she's already shaking her head at me with rage.
And I'm so excited to be talking to her. You
know her from Big Mouth. She's a new missy. She's
taking over the new black Missy, a brand new urban missy.
You know I'm writing on Dickenson. You know her from
Comedy Central. She's so hilarious. Please give it up from
(02:28):
my guest, miss io at Deborah Whoa. Oh thank you, guys.
I'm really glad that we're recording this live. Um the
middle of a of a piggy wiggly Sure in the
bacon section, there's a crowd, there's a crowd. We get
(02:51):
on that microphone. I'm saying, I'm dancing, I'm talking. Um.
I don't want to say too much about the new
season at Big Belt, but um new Urban Missy will
only you can give and it's really exciting. Um, and
it's really really special. They really they really nailed her
voice this season. Just just a lot of scatting. Yeah,
(03:12):
what if black kids today relate to And I said, well,
Scooby to bup job man, I'll tell you what and
and they listened that you got the job and in
that book is it? Thank you? Right? I have to
admit straight from the top because this is important to
talk about your emotional podcast. Let's go listen. I've got ranged.
(03:37):
We take it high, we take it low, we do
a few scats, a few improvs on and get serious
right after. I have to say that your conspiracy theory
when you texted it to me was one that I
did not immediately know was a conspiracy theory. Oh good that.
I was like, no, but that's that's just a fact
(03:58):
what we're talking about. Well, I think that's gonna be
the harder discussion if I'm gonna be honest, because we
got chatting to do about. All Right, So you've said
to me, they conspiracy theory you sent my way. You said,
my mama told me kim trails make people go crazy
(04:19):
and riot in the streets. Uh huh. So that's what
I know, and that's and that's what's been told to me. Um.
I'm from Boston, which is like a confusing place to
be a black person, but it's also the place where like, okay,
(04:41):
random true fact, like environmental justice was like created. So
I think there's this vibe of like we know something's
going on. We know, well, there's a pestice in the parks.
I actually took a tour when I was like a
high school student. I was like very into like social justice,
and I I, like Luther King would love for you
(05:04):
to say it that way every time. Actual was ghost
actually haunting me on the door and slapped me in
the face and I said, first of all, went through me.
I went through me, gave me shivers, um, and I said,
worry you a beer. I said, wait a minute, this
far there's better place than for you to be. And
he said I took a ghost, right, And I said, okay, alright,
(05:24):
well enough about that. I gotta tell this anecdote. He said,
wait a minute. I said, okay, I'm moving on. Um.
But I took the tour, and on the tour they
were like fun fat there's a park right over there
in Dorchester that was shut down because asbestos was in
the slides. And I was like, wait, I played him
that park, that's my neighborhood. I said, nobody said why
(05:49):
why the park shut down? They just shut it down. Um,
So that's sort of the vibe. As a former person,
I don't want to call myself in any way a
boss Stonian, but as a person who lived in Boston
for a few years, I can't agree that it's a
weird mix of highly intellectual sort of like peer reviewed
(06:12):
information and then just bullshit, just nonsense, just Irish, Catholic,
black Cape Verdean Vietnamese working class nonsense, and the city
is a mess because of it. But always up in
the skies, you know, there's these planes and who they're flying,
(06:33):
and sort of like around this time, as I'm like
coming aware of things, camp trails as an idea just
sort of like it came into the frontal lobes at
some point. And I remember being with like my mom
and like a few cousins and you know, friends who
are just kind of like mm hmm, these camp Trails.
(06:54):
They're dropping something and I was like, you know, what
are you talking about? Because me, I'm like I'm different.
I go to school or they've forced me to learn Latin,
like I'm an intellectual, Like no way ha put put
on that. Then you know, you started asking questions. You're
like in a minute, like what is going on? Why
(07:15):
is everybody in the streets fighting? Isn't the chim trails?
And there's also this like iconic France video, So there's
like before we were even get into that, before we
get there, get you're moving fast and I love your energy.
You take it back a notch. Goddamnit, slow down, looks man, brother,
(07:38):
cool job turkey. Uh Okay. Before we even get that far,
I do want to say that for our audience at home,
we should explain what kim trails are specifically, So kim
trails as I understand them, and please jump in with
your more clear definition, if there is one. Kim trails
is sort of the fumes that come off of usually
(08:01):
commercial airplanes as they're flying over our heads. And the
theory is that those fumes are in fact intentionally placed
there by the government to uh waft over us and
lead to riots and sort of population control. And so
there's like regular planes, sure, but then in some planes
(08:21):
and that's the thing you don't know what there's like
chemical or biological agents, and they can mess with your mind,
mess with the weather, mess with your body, nest with
certain communities specifically like black and brown and like working
class like poor communities there, and we can't do anything
(08:42):
because we're on the ground. We're on the ground and
ground something one max sure. And that's the thing is
that is just like you said. The theory is is
that they're put these chemicals in certain planes, but it's
(09:03):
not clear which ones they're choosing, and it's very sort
of random. Yes, uh, at least seems random to us,
when in fact it's all government orchestrating for for our
poisoning and or for the control of the weather. Yes,
you know, sometimes there will be like camp trails or
let's say, like regular plane trails that you know, stay
longer in the sky, and the scientists might say, oh, well,
(09:26):
that's just that particular exhaust reaction with the weather or
the humidity or the temperature of that specific area. My
cousin Brian chem Trils says, chem Trils, Mike, Mike, my
cousin DJ. He goes, well, all that's chum Trills J.
It's like listen, listen, listen, I hear your science, but
(09:49):
what you're not accounting for is the fact that I
already know that's camp Trils. Well you're not accounting for
is that I'm the person who showed you that video
of that jay Z song being played back or is
it saying six six six murder murder Jesus murder murder us.
So obviously that's got the site. We don't need their
(10:12):
fancy science when we have jay Z records backwards. Come on. Okay,
So now, following the train that you were already setting
us on, you said that you were originally inspired to
sort of like talk about this from the Prince video
that you caught. Yes, they were like on Facebook, like
(10:36):
I remember that, okay, uh want to feel old now?
Um there remember like going, you know, big on Facebook
and this video of Prince talking and just being like
camp trails are real. Yep. Those are the general Prince noises.
And that was that I believe his hair swooping and
(10:59):
then a little like flair flying forward if that correctly,
from behind him and that's just sort of like spiritual,
energetic maybe from his guitar that's laid off stage on
the side somewhere there for some reason, a little burst
of purple just happens noise. But there's this video of
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him where he very seriously is like and obviously prints
a man of science and perfect beliefs. Um. It was like,
you know, I believe in cam trails. Cam trails are real,
and I know that not just because of the work
of the illustrious Dick Gregory, but also because I was
born and raised in Minnesota, and there would be days
where everybody's getting along in the neighborhood, everybody's hanging out.
(11:44):
Then all of a sudden, the plane goes over in
a riot burst and prints, Okay, Mr Raspberry Beret. He's
talking to tab Smiley. Unfortunately canceled Tabi Smiley, which Tavis
didn't jump in at all to be like a prince
(12:04):
chill out on this one. He he was not a
reliable narrator from then. Really, that's fair. We should have
known that Tavis had some ugly secrets by his willingness
to let these chem trails theories just like fly. But
so he's talking to Tavis Smiley and he basically says
that like when he was a kid in Minnesota, he
(12:24):
would watch airplanes all the time. He'd be like, oh, sweet,
that's an airplane. That's tight. But then more and more airplanes,
more and more trails of chemicals, and suddenly his neighborhood
had fallen into misery. Yeah yeah, I mean just half
the neighborhood on fire. Sure, according to Prince. And so
(12:44):
when you watch this video and you hear possibly, I
would argue, one of the most iconic figures in all
of history say that he believes that these chemicals are
leading to riots in the streets, what is your reaction?
Don't believe? No? I was just like, well, something's going on, sure, something,
(13:06):
something's happening. Um. And obviously, like the man who is
a full like type pants wearing Jehovah's witness, it has
confusion built into the brain. Drills are real. I really
just just like, oh, a lot more people believe this
than I realized. And I guess I'm like doing some
(13:27):
also digging in. I mean, I don't know that this
breaks the bounds of your podcast, but I realized, like, oh,
this isn't just like a black thing, which I kind
of thought it was just because I guess I was
raised around mostly black people, and so then I go, oh,
it's a black thing. Oh, well, living in Boston is
(13:48):
a black thing. I go, but a black city, my
mother like it has horse blinders on my eyes. Like, man,
this is a blackdown, black as hell awesome. In the background,
(14:09):
Mark Wahlberg fully beating up children a pill are left
and right, was knocking an Asian man by out and
just then going on to make beautiful. I can't see it.
I can't see what am I supposed to do? Um
fine acting career as well, that guy good and Boogie Knights. Listen.
If you haven't seen the happening, go watching Mark Wahlberg stunts. Folks.
(14:36):
If you have not seen that happening. Folks, folks, you
got to see the happening, go to your nearest theater. Now,
I tell you now it's no, it's not well, go
see it anyway. But yeah, I don't know. I thought
it was like mostly a black thing, and then I
(14:56):
was like, oh, there's oh, there's white people also important
airs who like they got jars, they got jars from
the air and the air is a weird color. Yeah,
so what's going on because there is a weird color
is that I don't know if my air, my air
(15:18):
is clear. The air in his jar is not clear,
so is brown chunk Chunk. I would venture to guess
that it's a poor person's interpretation of larger problems that
they're probably seeing in their community, you know what I mean,
Like there's already some smog because of a fucking steel
(15:40):
factory or whatever evil things some other person put up.
You don't know how to deal with the fact that
the steel factory is there because they employ you or
somebody you love, and so instead you just go, man,
that airplanes trying to kill me dog. I mean half
of the fights were probably people arguing whether or not
it was cam trails or you know, the local plant
(16:01):
like infecting the air in the water, And that's probably
the fight that got everybody going crazy. Sure there's one
reasonable person in the neighborhood like, hey, man, I actually
think it's uh that capitalism fighting now fighting? Now, what
the fun did you say about my capitalism? I love
(16:21):
my capitalism. Anything about your fucking capitalism? Man, I didn't
say nothing. Now we gotta fight. So you don't believe, Prince,
but you do believe potentially that something is happening, that
there might be something more to these airplanes. I mean,
but I think to the point of what you're saying
also the player of just like we don't know what's
(16:42):
going on, Like you know, I think so much about
like when you read a history book and you're like,
ha hah, these idiots put lynches on their body, and
like a hundred years from now, some kid on like
a Mars colony is going to be like ha ha
they use microwaves. You Like, there's there's things that are
a part of our everyday life right now that are
(17:05):
absolutely psychotic and bad for us, and we don't know
how or why. I mean, I'm drinking I'm drinking fluorescent sodas.
You know that can't be good for the bones, not
at all. When I was a kid, I used to
go to the gas station every day and I would
buy a big gulp of mountain dew, just every single day,
(17:27):
because they were like a dollar at the time, and
I get a dollar, I'd go buy a big gulp
of mountain dew and it was free refills on that
mountain dew, so I would go refill it a day,
and multiple dudes a day. And now I can't touch
my toes and you can't convince me that those aren't related.
(17:48):
I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. I used
to be very athletic, very flexible. Okay, then fifth grade
I started babysitting and I started getting a little bit
of pocket change. What I would do every day after
school was going to Burger King and get a five
piece nugget and of soda because I could get that
for two dollars, and I started eating that every day.
(18:10):
I didn't gain weight, because I don't have the body
that gains weight. But I'll tell you what. The end
of the year, I tried to do a split and
my hips hurt so much in the way that is inexplicable.
I believe it is because of the nuggets. I don't
believe it's because of the nuggets and that fluorescent sweet
and sour sauce. What the hells and that and that's
absolutely correct. It was those nuggets. It did something to
(18:32):
your joints and your bones that made them not joints
and bones. Never gonna do a split again. No, it's
just it's McDonald's meat in there from now on, and
it ain't built for splits. That's built for more nuggets.
That's outsourced the meat from just another fast for the restaurant.
They're just swapping meat back and forth, mistaking your meat
(18:52):
and replacing it. Well, okay, so you do open your
eyes up in a way, I guess is what I'm
hearing to the possibility that they're sort of like more
conspiracy happening in the world, even if it's not this,
even if it's not exactly that, but it opens us
to like more conspiracy of that, and also like this
(19:15):
brand of like hotel obspiracy where it's like, you know,
brother sharing, like Dick Gregory videos betwixt each other. Yeah,
old man just being like, now tell you what it's like. Oh,
well this this isn't right. I know this isn't right.
You're a hundred first of all, killer did Gregory impression?
(19:38):
I think you nailed it, but I do it is
It's a hard thing, especially as a comic, where it's
like Dick Gregory is a very iconic figure in the
space of comedy, do you know what I mean? Like
he's an important person, but it's also an old man
just getting old and saying old stuff. And so you're
balancing like, all right, how do I backfully say that
(20:01):
this old motherfucker is wrong? Right? But he just isn't
nailing it anymore. No, And it's like, thank you, sir
for what you did. I believe you did it. I
believe I believe you did it. You can take the
victory lab. You haven't say anything new anymore. I wasn't
around for it, but I hear you did great stuff.
(20:22):
I love what I've heard that you do. But maybe
just said this one out like boy, because just just produce, right,
this is a Dick Gregory production. This is a Dick joint.
You Dick joint, Hello, Dick joint when you see it.
(20:46):
If Dick Gregory would have started calling his production dick picks. Ok, okay,
he's a multi hyphen that it's a and then you
you watch a real serious movie about Kim Tree. Oh man,
if only we had more time, Only we had more time.
(21:07):
Afraid to God, those chemicals they're dropping. Bring him back
to life so that we can start producing radiating He
drops and brings him back delay old hand verse through
the earth, and Dick Gregory gets to make He doesn't
want to bite heads and like murder people. He just
(21:29):
wants to make it. I'm back now. I want to produce.
God damn it. All right, we're gonna take a break
and we'll be back with more Iowa, Debri and more.
My mama told me we are Have you ever had
(21:57):
a dreaming? You you what you can do? You do
you want? You? You could do? So? You you do
you could? You want? You want him to do you
so much? You could do anything? Yeah, we're back. We're
back here with that was dope? Right, that goes? Listen
(22:22):
play that in the club playing I'm absolutely I'm getting
the knee braced back out. Sure, no, but I could.
I could break a few other things. That's the shot.
I get the knees going crazy. That's why I play it.
I want to see the knees go crazy. One of
the b drops. That's cold. He just he just and
(22:44):
you ever and you and you and you want you know,
he's a champ. And I hope he's doing okay because
that video was recorded and like it had to be
like uh n, yeah, there's no way this hasn't negatively
affected his life. I hope he's okay, doing the best
(23:05):
can with what he's got. Right, You're you're a meme
for the rest of your life. And maybe you're lucky
enough that people don't recognize you and and treat you
with any sort of like malice or maybe you have
to write that on your job applications and address it
with everyone you meet. Yep, is he you? I was
(23:28):
a lot lighter when I was You know kids that
go from blonde to brunette. Well that was me, but
all over my hair was fine, finest silk. And uh,
I'm ashamed of what I said, and I just wish
you all would give me the space to work it out. Well,
(23:48):
what is a podcast about that? Uh, it's probably a
desperate call for attention, but you know, we'll figure out
which one. By the end of this we will solve
many problems, including that one. Okay, let's talk research. I
did some research on kim trails that I want us
(24:08):
to sort of unpack together and feel free to jump in, disagree,
disregard anything that I'm saying or presenting to you. So,
what people are calling kim trails is actually something called contrails,
which comes from the word condensation, which is just the
warm exhaust uh mixing with cold temperatures to form trails
of vapor in the sky. Right, and then along with
(24:33):
that vapor. Uh. The the kim trail element of it
is people assuming that that vapor because of how long
it stays in the sky or the distance that it
sort of covers, is associated with some sort of like
chemical attack from the government. Yes, So to your earlier point,
(24:53):
many of the theorists, theorists, I should know the word.
I'm I wrote it down. I just can't say it
on account of my speech impediment. But the theorists believe
that the chemicals, you know, out of all the speech
impediments you could get, it's not the worst, it's not
the worst, and it humanizes you in a way that
I think is good. Sure, otherwise, how could you ever
(25:16):
relate with me? So a lot of the argument sort
of claimed that these chemicals lead to either violence or
control in the weather. And there's a video I watched
of this dude talking to a news reporter where he
collected some of the chem trails in a jar and
claimed that those chemicals, those specific chemicals he had found
(25:37):
in the jar were responsible for a tornado that came
through his town like a week before the chemicals were collected. Essentially, ill,
how did you catch that? How did you get the air? Also,
like if there was wind blowing a little bit early
and you just caught stuff. You know, he just got junk.
(25:58):
Maybe some of it is junk. Um. There probably are
also to like some experiments where people are trying to
like control weather. I don't know if it is for
like tornadoes as much as maybe trying to get places
where it's very dry and air that needs rain, like,
you know, get the clouds a little bit feeled, a
(26:19):
little bit horny, you know, those clouds them. I think
what you're referring to is something that often is conflated
with kim trails, which is something called geo engineering. I
want you to keep going, but I will just say,
(26:40):
as somebody who is at one time training to be
a teacher and did some student teaching, and you, who
has a history in education, I love that you made
a teaching moment and very organic and I went, wait, yeah,
I do love to learn. Wait, maybe Shakespeare and Biggest
Smalls are the same. Yeah, I'm teach. Hey, wait a minute,
(27:03):
I might switch my hat from backwards to forwards. You're spitting, teach.
Let's go, I'm gonna take off my drug selling hat
and put on my listening hat, because teach, you got
my ears. Yeah, maybe this hoodlum cap look better as
a graduation cap yche oh captain life reaking ideal. So
(27:32):
the geo engineering is in fact a real science. Solar
geo engineering specifically is where they work to create technologies
that might enable people to like add materials to the
atmosphere as a technique of reflecting the sunlight back to
space and like partially reduced climate change or the accumulation
(27:56):
of greenhouse gases. So it is sort of rooted in
a real science. It just isn't at all connected to
airplanes or chemicals falling from the sky. I mean, this
is sort of like okay, chemtril's honestly, can I say
they they're kind of like early fake news where it's like, Okay,
there's a news nugget, there's something in here that's true.
(28:19):
But this has been so warped by like bad information
and people not totally understanding something and like screenshotting and
re sharing this until it's absolutely burnt Crispy Fried at
the edges. Yes, it's it's just a game of like
very dumb telephone. They're dangerous telephone even because people are
(28:41):
basically just taking this story and then running with it
in the wrong direction, and so even to your point
about the geo engineering. One of the things that scientists
say is that geo engineering, although it is technically a
science that people are studying, it's not something they're even
studying in a public space yet, Like they don't put
(29:01):
it out in the air because of the risk that
like putting something in the atmosphere might actually have very
dangerous negative effects on the population or the planet as
a whole. So it's not real. So what's in the
guy's jars? And that's the question. So one of the
(29:22):
things that he found in his jar, and one of
the things that people keep pointing to as a cause
for the thing that we're worried about, which is like
all these fights and and weird effects on the community,
is people claim that they in every jar that they
sort of collect our extreme amounts of barium. Barium which
(29:43):
apparently causes a person to experience breathing difficulties, increase blood pressure,
heart rhythm changes, stomach irritation, muscle weakness changes as a
nerve reflexes. It just basically fux up your body, uh,
and potentially your brain as well. I feel like if
most metals that you eat, if you eat it, it
(30:03):
will do that. Yes, it's not like you can eat
some metal and it's like that's a good metal. Oh,
that's a good metal that you want. What you need
is a little bit of plut that you need some
some harder, softer metals in your body. Doesn't worry. I've
(30:23):
got a guy. He'll give you some great metals. That's
a baron bro mind for you. Yeah, don't worry, It'll
fix you right up. They're just serving like metal on
a charcouterie board that's also made of metal. Listen, I
don't know what assistant at Goop that's trying to get
a promotion is listening to this. So we're giving a
free idea right now. Oh No, Gwyneth Paltrow is a fan,
(30:45):
she's a regular. She's shaving that down, sprinkling that on
some gelatto. You know what I'm saying, Fat gelatto, that's Gwen.
Gwyneth wants that. Gwyneth already on that, So you gotta
get those medals in that gelatto. And she knows where
the best medals and the best at is in the city.
It's not her fault if she knows, it's not her fault.
(31:06):
She's just telling you what she knows. Why Are you
all so mad at her? Because she's sharing hard facts
that she knows from out in the world, are facts
which are things that she knows because she heard it somewhere,
and because she's a reliable source. Why would any of
us question Gwyneth Paltrow. Sorry that her website is good. Sorry,
(31:27):
you're mad that she's got a good layout. Mm hmmm.
You're mad that she used to that dude from Coldplay.
You're jealous and you ain't letting her shine. Yeah, you
can say they're cheesy now, but I know we were
all boffing the yellow. You have it well up to yellow.
You're lying. You're lying to me if you're gonna tell
me the scientists didn't bring a tear to your telling me.
(31:50):
You watch that music video. You saw him go backwards backwards.
And this was before TikTok. This is before we knew
that he walked red learn and then they just played
it backwards. This was this was groundbreaking entertainment. He had
to learn the whole song, all the lyrics backwards. That's
come on, it's hard to do. Chris Martin, the backwards God,
(32:12):
Chris Martin, we love them god? Oh hell Okay, So
one of the other things that they connect to these
metals that we're talking about, right, The claim is, and
this is where the metals sort of get complicated for people,
is that they're claiming that the metals are also sort
of like coated with micro organisms in nanotechnology, which are
(32:36):
able to bore into the skin, leading to the fighting
and the uproar in your community. There's something so specific
about like poor fear of nanotechnology. Yes, there's something really specific.
And I and it links with Christianity as well, because
I mean, my biggest figure as a child was having
(32:58):
a chip in me. And obviously the chip will be
the mark of the devil um or is something to
control my mind? And is that in the Bible? No?
But but the Bible's poetry, right, and so you translate
and you put your life what is true? And I said, oh,
micro chip. The devil has grown, The devil has has evolved.
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He's a shape shifter and obviously is able to adapt
to the modern age much more easily than um any angels.
I might say, but that's not it's not me. It's
what some might say. And obviously quoting the way that
UM even now, like when I see a news story
(33:43):
that's like guy puts microchip in body to get into house.
I like, you know, I should a really quickly, even
as I like, don't go to church anymore, and I go, Father, God,
you know obviously it's been a while. Just in case
sort of you and I have anything that we need
to work out. I just want to say, and that
there is that stuff that like I get it. You know,
(34:06):
religion obviously is an allegory and like it isn't like
hard based fact necessarily, and some people treat it that way.
But there is stuff that like human beings do where
I'm like, all right, dog, that's a sin. That's a
sin against nature. That's not that's not what God wanted
for us. Elon, must leave that, leave that pig alone.
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Why would you put it? Leave it alone? Elon? That's wrong.
That is wrong. You know, whenever somebody says something like
even slightly offensive to me, I go, well, so sad
they're going to hell to burn eternally. That sucks for them.
I guess they made don't love this six minutes stand
(34:51):
up set that that I did go to hell forever.
Just what I heard. That's that's what they're saying. Just
reading listen, we can be here in the street. But yeah,
so people are claiming that this nanotechnology, this microorganisms and
nanotech is one of the ways you can tell that
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it's nanotech. This is a claim is that it causes
a skin condition called more Golans Morgellons something I don't know,
Lord of the rings. More door, you get more door.
But so this Morglon's condition causes lesions and rashes on
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your skin, which people are claiming is sort of like,
as you would put it, the mark of the devil.
It's the mark of like these reigning or you know,
micro organisms falling from the sky. And there is probably
just again like another sort of explanation. I mean, I mean, hey, listen,
(36:00):
you know, who's to say where we are in a
hundred years, but there probably is something to like somebody
having sores and itching and then walking around you know,
not super developed or clean or you know, have has
good air or water quality or whatever stuff's getting in
(36:22):
their skin, right, I would I would argue that drinking
flint water is probably that might do. The might not
be the sky that might be about what's going on. Yeah,
we we can see some of the stuff that probably
is causing our skin conditions. I McDonald's three times a week.
(36:45):
If I got a skin condition, it's probably that that,
you know what I mean, it's that that did that
to me. It wasn't fucking you know, raining particles from
the air. So with that one of the ways that
they say you can help prevent the risk of Morgellons
or risk of these microorganisms attacking you. And this was
(37:06):
one of my favorite parts of the research. Some theorists
claim that you can use strong magnets to pull the
nanotechnology out of your book. That's right, that like you
basically what's cut scene from X makoma, that's that's in
the matrix. That's the matrix. Uh was there? There was
(37:28):
no magnets when it's on the bug. Oh, that's right,
you're right. I forgot that you're a matrix historian, and
I I shouldn't dared. I spent money on that degree.
I spent my money. I'm gonna flount where I can.
(37:48):
I didn't go to four years of matrix college to
have you just misrespected like this on your podcast. I
went to Phoenix University dot do you slash matrix before years?
I earned my degree. I earned a goddamn it. I
(38:10):
love the idea that the professor just calls himself Morpheus too.
He's just that's Morpheus too. He knows he's not disrespectful,
you know, and he knows he knows what he represents
as well. I support it. Sending a really nervous email
at high um Professor Morpheus two. I just wanted to
check in, UM, you know, as the middle of the
(38:30):
semester is approaching, and obviously I've done my best. UM
thinks have been really difficult as the landline philles near
my apartment have all been taken by the government, and
so I'm having a hard time doing the homework. I
hope you won't, you know, look against me in that regard. UM,
thank you so much. UM. I love this semester. The
teen exclamation points, and then he just writes back, the
(38:54):
work is the work you get if if you don't
show up, you fail. He hacks my email and fails
me immediately. So here's where it gets even more fascinating,
because I found myself asking the question, what is the
real goal of these riots? What's the real want here
on the part of the government, Because I can't imagine
that just like the streets burning is their intention. And
(39:18):
so a lot of people connected to this thing called HARP,
this program high Frequency Active Oreel Research programed HARP right,
which basically was developed by the US military as a
tool for the study of ion sphere for the movement
of like radio communications and surveillance. So they're basically the
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government is saying, like, we want to improve our ability
to like use satellites to surveil our enemies wherever they
may be and like connect with like you know, everything,
and we're gonna like study how to make the ion
sphere a little more like penetrable, if that makes sense.
And then everybody claims that study is bullshit and that's
(40:02):
actually them putting together like the equipment for poisoning us. Interesting. Yeah,
I mean, like because I think two of the Prince
allegory where he was saying that the issue is when
there's harmony in these areas that's like that are poorer
or seem like they're going to have some sort of
like you know, community or financial gain or upward mobility
(40:26):
or stability, and it's like capitalism only work when people
are under the boot, Like it only works if there
is um are there are people who can be suppressed
and oppressed and can be like turned in this machine.
And so to like so seeds of discord is to
(40:48):
make sure it works and to make sure that the
people who are supposed to be on the bottom, for
whatever reason like stay there. So also it's that thing
like I don't know erin Brockovich vibes, where it's like,
don't learn about what is gonna hurt you or else
or else that. Yeah, I think you're you're making two
(41:14):
excellent points here that like even if there's a possibility
that not even a possibility, if we're even agreeing that
Kim Charles in fact are not real. But this is
just sort of an absurd interpretation of what is real
and normal real thing. What it does do effectively is
create chaos emotionally for the people who either believe it
(41:38):
or don't believe it, and keeps people in a position
of sort of like suffering or victimhood at the hands
of the government, right that you can't really beat. And
then in that way, it's like its own interpretation of
what's real, you know what I mean, Like that there
(41:58):
is truth in that and in what's happening to Yeah,
I would argue that I think that's where the government
is at its strongest, is when they can just convince
us some they don't even have to spend the money
to send airplanes with chemicals in them. They could just
convince us there's chemicals in the airplane because we can't
(42:19):
prove them wrong. Yeah. Ever, and anybody who even suggests
that it's wrong is as you get called crazy or
or a fucking you're either crazy or you're a part
of the problem, and perfect places to be. Yeah, be
called either crazy or not. It's it's just a wild
(42:44):
sort of like a middle ground. And even so so
following that sort of connection of people being called crazy
or connected to the police or or the powers that be,
every scientist who refutes this, naturally, scientists all over the
world are saying, you guys are being ridiculous. This isn't
a thing. They say, like, well, even if you think
(43:05):
that this is real, it would be unreasonable to think
that an entire organization would be able to fill these
planes with these chemicals. And nobody snitches, like nobody ever,
like steps outside and it's like, hey, bro, they're poisoning you,
which has never happened in the history of the planet.
Like the amount of work and energy you would have
(43:27):
to put to get people to all agree that poisoning
the planet is okay and and not tell anyone they
love is impossible. It's unless those scientists are being told otherwise.
Unless that's how they get you. That's how they get you.
(43:50):
All Right, We're gonna take another break and then we'll
be back with more. I owe Debrie and more, my
mama told me. And we are bat. We're bat. We're bat.
(44:26):
We're back with more. Ioa, Debrie. We're back with more.
My mama told me. We're having a great time talking
about these skim trails and the crazy that it spawns.
It bursts in our community, both right and wrong. That's journey.
That's one of my favorite drops that I've ever thought of.
(44:46):
And our producer Nick, who is a kind man and
a very patient human being. It needs to be arrested,
abolished the police. But arrest Nick for that right before
you get kicked out. Police arresting it up. Please, I've
(45:07):
got something to report. Let that be your last piece
of paperwork. Officer is just arresting Nick and sending him
to jail. Okay, we're gonna play a game. I have
a very fun game that This is a new segment
that I call Millionaires Say the Darndest Things. Hello, don't
(45:29):
hang up for me. I have plenty of energy to
drive over there. Do you understand me? Okay, this is
a fun game called Millionaires Say the Darndest Things, in
which I want to read to you some celebrity quotes
on the issue of Kim trails and their conspiracy theories
around it, things that they've posted, things that they've sort
(45:51):
of retweeted, things that they've claimed. And I would love
for you to just unpack why these iconic figures And
this is really an homage to your podcast Psiconography, where
where I would love for you to really just I pack.
You treat me well. You treat me well. I like
to plug. I like to plug. I like to plug.
And it's a wonderful podcast and I want people to
(46:12):
listen to it, but they better listen to my ship first.
And that's why we plug it in the middle, right Okay, there,
we make them, We make them earn it. Listen to
us talk, then you earn the plug. Then you earn
the plug. But so I would love for you to
(46:32):
unpack why you think these icons have chosen to spread
the conspiracy theory that they've chosen to spread. Does that
make sense? I think I'm up for the task. Hell yeah.
So the first one comes from Queen Kylie Jenner Kylie
Jenner in she posted on Twitter, and she still hasn't
taken it down. She says, let's ask ourselves. Why did
(46:57):
I see seventy five planes spring white stuff on my
fifteen minute drive to work? Who pays for this? And
why is it happening? Is something being exterminated here? Is
that something? Me? Does that have anything to do with
why honey bees are dying off really fast? Why are
some days normal with no plane sprying and others like this?
(47:17):
Who's responsible? What effect will this have on our health
and our children's future? Who the fuck thought this was
a good idea? Am I the only one who sees this?
Oh my god? Okay? Wait? Also this was like you said,
that's right, old body, Kylie. Wow, I mean old everything
(47:40):
really and also apparently old brain that still ridges in it.
Those are many sentences off. I wonder if this is
pre her realizing things? Remember that, I remember that when
everybody loved that, when she was realizing things? Yeah, that
was I think you're referring to when she like tried
cereal for the first time. Yeah, she had like a
(48:02):
few revelations around very basic human experiences. But I mean,
what this really says to me, right, is that she's
a thinker, and she's um constantly questioning, learning, growing, um,
you know, combating the ideas that we are supposed to know.
I'm obsessed with. I mean, let's ask ourselves. She she
(48:24):
she poses, it's not about the self, it's about the community.
She brings all of us in and says, you know,
everybody here, you good bystander, you Mr mailman, you, Mr
trash collector, oh, miss nurse. Let's ask ourselves. Why did
I Why did I mean on a fifteen minute to
(48:48):
see seventy five points? Am I near an airport? Because
I saw seventy five planes in the sky? Do I
do I literally have private jet flying onto my giant property,
maybe playing convention in town this weekend? Because I saw
seventy five planes in fifteen minutes? Have I accidentally landed
(49:12):
in a war zone? Did I forget that I'm in
a war zone? And that's why I saw seventy five planes?
And work is that I'm in the military. Now is
this nineteen and I'm in Soviet territory? Is that what's happening?
Or kim trails. She's asking perfect questions. When is something
being exterminated? I think, oh, you know, when when I go, oh,
(49:36):
there might be a little mouse, maybe a little bumpy
quality creepy in my apartment. Time to call seventy five planes?
That's what I Oh, that's what I do. So she's
the thinker, is what you're saying. She's a thinker. And
I looked up the post and I'm also saying, okay,
she goes honey bees apostrophe s. She's saying, who's is responsible?
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Who's is instable? With the sea? You know, I should
note that I cleaned it up. She wasn't exactly. She
was typing frantically, I assume because of how upset she
was and how many planes were flying so close to
her and also low as well. The fumes were getting
(50:21):
in her brain, they were melting things. She had to
get this out quickly, so Grammar went out the landing
in her eyes so she could really see things are clearly.
She was typing, and that's why her skin looks weird. Now.
I think it is because of the micro organism. People
don't realize she hasn't been getting fillers and her lips
have been getting done. It's it's um the after effects
(50:43):
of um Mungo mungo knowles. Those are just nano chips. Baby,
that's you can thick from the nano chips. That's not
science building up in her ats and her fads. Oh baby,
you got nano chip ass. That's all that's happened to you. Baby.
(51:05):
You look beautiful, But those are nano chips. In y
my long social justice posts on Instagram where I'm like,
we must stop glorifying nano chips no more. You're like
promoting body positivity while simultaneously yeah, why did you even
(51:26):
go and supporting thing um m and I do a
lot at the same time, and I want to apologize
for it. That's what we call the trifect. And I
hear you in this business absolutely all right. Let me
read you another fun one. This one comes from Hayden Panetary.
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You know her heros from from Heroes Fame. That's right, Hayden.
She also was in that movie what is it Skater Boys? Okay,
I just she was in something called Skater Boys Racing Stripes.
Anybody remember that the movie about the zebra whose biggest
(52:09):
dream was to become a racing horse. Biscuit. Pretty bad,
pretty bad. That's not great. Zebras are noticeably smaller than
racing horses. I don't know how that will work. But
because they had, because it believed Doug, I thought you
were inteligent. No, I'm an idiot. But okay, so Hayden
(52:29):
right and smashed that movie. I'll tell you what, folks,
you got to see it. After you see the happening,
go see Racing Stripes. A lot of theaters will do
it as a double feature. You just gotta ask you
that you don't have the secret movie venue trick is?
Do you have to ask at a time. I'd like
(52:50):
to see that to advocate for themselves, I say, I
want my double feature. I want to know you know
what I want. I want to happen to you after
the other. I'll expect my half cherry, half blue Raspberry
icy in the seat when I walk in, very much,
and obviously I will not be mixing the flavors. I'll
enjoy one for one film and one for the other
(53:12):
the other. What do you think I am? I do
you think I was raised. I was born and raising
the black estellar Boston, Massachusetts. You watch your mouth, Okay,
So Hayden write, what the heck are they spraying over us?
It's been happening for years, but only this extreme for
(53:36):
the past few months. Monkey emoji with his hands over
his mouth. It's about the well the emoji is good,
and she's saying no more. I love the like. I
just like that. It is a call to action that
it is like, so everybody's been seeing this, right, so
we all know. It's like, I'm just like you, regular folk.
(53:59):
There's stuff in this guy, and I gotta ask. I'm
fed up. We're all fed up. Let's make some choices.
Let's make some choices now. I hope it didn't impact
I hope it didn't impact her acting and on heroes.
I hope she felt safe and comfortable on set and
wasn't you know, didn't have that perfect role destroyed by
(54:20):
the fear of chim trails. Really well, I will say
this is a tweet from seventeen, so it was post well,
she's free to tweet, She's she's available to tweet at
that time. I love the idea that she was on
set of heroes sort of holding all of this in
until they finally gave her the freedom to unleash those tweets.
(54:44):
You know, I just love the idea of like her,
like you know, she just like moved closer to an
airport seeing stuff, and she's like, look, they're spraying things
on me again. Yeah, they're spraying things on me again.
Her career is getting worse, so she's forced to move
closer to an airport, and then simultaneously she's building more
conspiracy or it's getting better, so she wants to be closer.
(55:06):
We don't know, I've never heard of that. I've never
heard of anybody, uh their career getting so much better
that they live by the airport. You know, your Bill
Murray famously has that voicemail that you can only leave
things on. And he lives in a hotel, one of
those ones that flight attendants staying. Yeah, he lives in.
(55:27):
And you can Bill Murray and Hayden Panetta, you are
the only ones that have the success to live by
the airport. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna read you one more.
I'm gonna read you one more fun one and then
I hope she's well, I'm thinking about we gotta get
a hero's reboot on Peacock, for she needs something to
(55:49):
stay busy. She kenet be looking at the sky, and
bad for actors to look at the sky. We don't
need them looking up their focus on these lines, read
these sides. Okay. This last quote comes from Billy Corgan.
Do you know Billy Corgan? Oh? I do, Billy Corgan
of the Smashing Pumpkins, Billy Corgan who dated Tila Tequila.
(56:09):
So we've already got this information of a working genius.
And uh so Billy Corgan says. This is from September two,
September six, five days after the celebration or memory of
nine eleven. Billy Corgan had this. He said, hopefully they
won't kim trail us all to death tonight before the
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Big Rock Show. L O L, I just love poison
raining down so fun. Okay, elevating the art form by
using it as a verb. First wow. After the Big
Rock Show, Billy Corgan had a big shell that evening
and and he was like, oh, I know they're coming
(56:54):
and getting me. He's not denying the possibility that will
eventually die. He just doesn't want us to die before
the big rock show, so true, so brid of him
as well. He listened the Government's gonna kill us. Billy
Corgan already knows this. He's willing to laugh it off,
but not before his big rock show. No, I never
(57:16):
Billy Corgan is like so deeply confusing as a person,
and he's like so like he has so many opinions
and yet they all amount to much. Yeah, none of
them are built with a sturdy backing. No, he's like
part Catholic, part Buddhist. He has met shape shifters before,
(57:36):
obviously once again, just half to say againd dated um
now famously you know, famously BISEXUALNX with blue eye. Get
you a woman who can do both? Okay, not naturally
so you know it's operating on a high frequency. Here,
(57:58):
he's a man who understand and there there are elements
of the inexplicable in life, right, and so to have
him point out chem drills, I think, I say thank you, sir.
I tipped my hat to you, Mr Corgan, baldest man alive.
Perhaps this doesn't make me feel weird about your music
at all. This Actually I feel awesome, perfect still listening
(58:20):
to your song because I feel really, really good listening
to nineteen seventy five. I don't care. Why should I?
You're normal? Well, what the heck you're normal? What the
heck you're normal? Billy Corgan? I think nine? Also, I
said five, I do that. It's okay. I mean, my
listeners will never forgive you. But it happened, and you
burn black people who listened to the Smashing Pumpkins, which
(58:43):
there are, and Janelle James is proof. Okay, hell yeah,
you and Janelle. That's about it. But they exist and
they're both mad. And Janelle, well, I I think we
did it. I think we did the whole thing. Thank
you so much. We were great. This was some it's fun.
Could you tell the people where they can find you
what cool stuff? Yeah? I can. My socials are all
(59:08):
at Iowa debris Um, so you can find me there.
My name is spelled like it's probably spelled on the podcast.
But do you need me to spell it? Just let
me know if you do, but quickly, because I'm about
to see it. Like nobody's called damn um and um. Yeah.
(59:31):
I'm working on a few shows and so if if
stuff pops up them, I'll post it there. I get
a little dumb videos and whatever. I don't though, and
my podcast Iconography that you can listen to wherever you
also listen to podcasts, So here unless you downloaded this
from lime wire or some such sting um. But it's
(59:53):
me and my friend Olivia, who is a genius, and
we interview really funny, cool smart people about icons to
them and we have fun conversations and one day, Langston
on the point this, this is why we podcast, folks,
for the biggest for the big opportunities that get thrown
(01:00:16):
back at us. What an honor and thank you Io.
I would love to be on that podcast. I would
love to be on Iconography because it's a fantastic podcast
and you're a fantastic podcast host. And I appreciate you
for doing my podcast one more time, Ladies and gentlemen,
for Iowa Debris, everybody that's to be rich here and
(01:00:38):
for you and this you can. I love you all.
I love you all on this pigment and and we're
all going to cough in each other's mouths right now,
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(01:01:03):
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(01:01:35):
mostly money stuff I can't tell me
If your voice was too smooth, I would be honest,
it would be a shamar more slippery path. A lot
of fun basic videos where you're sort of stroking your
chin wearing top hats in my house for some reason.
Why are you shirtless with the top hats? Smar more?
Is this a formal event or a beach day? You
(00:25):
tell me, I didn't know they made deep w next shirts.
Where that Oh my god, scary shirt. It's a scary shirt.
And I'll go on horning. Why both scary and horny?
It's it's hard to fight chips in your bails. Racist
(01:00):
honey term stuff you can't tell me. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Oh there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Welcome to another amazing, exceptional, devastating episode of My Mama
(01:21):
Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the
world of black conspiracy theories and we find out where
Beyonce is hiding the body of Sasha fears. Bring back
our girl, Beyonce. This is enough. Sasha Fierce was the
most talented actress, most talented performer in all of history,
(01:43):
and Beyonce felt intimidated, She got scared, and she kidnapped
our girl. And she took her from us in this world. Beyonce,
you better bring her back. We don't want your subpar performances.
We want Sasha Fears. I'm coming in hot today, ladies
and gentlemen, I'm your host, Lankston Kerman, my guest today.
She's furious at my suggestions about Beyonce and Sis. And
(02:06):
here she's already shaking her head at me with rage.
And I'm so excited to be talking to her. You
know her from Big Mouth. She's a new missy. She's
taking over the new black Missy, a brand new urban missy.
You know I'm writing on Dickenson. You know her from
Comedy Central. She's so hilarious. Please give it up from
(02:28):
my guest, miss io at Deborah Whoa. Oh thank you, guys.
I'm really glad that we're recording this live. Um the
middle of a of a piggy wiggly Sure in the
bacon section, there's a crowd, there's a crowd. We get
(02:51):
on that microphone. I'm saying, I'm dancing, I'm talking. Um.
I don't want to say too much about the new
season at Big Belt, but um new Urban Missy will
only you can give and it's really exciting. Um, and
it's really really special. They really they really nailed her
voice this season. Just just a lot of scatting. Yeah,
(03:12):
what if black kids today relate to And I said, well,
Scooby to bup job man, I'll tell you what and
and they listened that you got the job and in
that book is it? Thank you? Right? I have to
admit straight from the top because this is important to
talk about your emotional podcast. Let's go listen. I've got ranged.
(03:37):
We take it high, we take it low, we do
a few scats, a few improvs on and get serious
right after. I have to say that your conspiracy theory
when you texted it to me was one that I
did not immediately know was a conspiracy theory. Oh good that.
I was like, no, but that's that's just a fact
(03:58):
what we're talking about. Well, I think that's gonna be
the harder discussion if I'm gonna be honest, because we
got chatting to do about. All Right, So you've said
to me, they conspiracy theory you sent my way. You said,
my mama told me kim trails make people go crazy
(04:19):
and riot in the streets. Uh huh. So that's what
I know, and that's and that's what's been told to me. Um.
I'm from Boston, which is like a confusing place to
be a black person, but it's also the place where like, okay,
(04:41):
random true fact, like environmental justice was like created. So
I think there's this vibe of like we know something's
going on. We know, well, there's a pestice in the parks.
I actually took a tour when I was like a
high school student. I was like very into like social justice,
and I I, like Luther King would love for you
(05:04):
to say it that way every time. Actual was ghost
actually haunting me on the door and slapped me in
the face and I said, first of all, went through me.
I went through me, gave me shivers, um, and I said,
worry you a beer. I said, wait a minute, this
far there's better place than for you to be. And
he said I took a ghost, right, And I said, okay, alright,
(05:24):
well enough about that. I gotta tell this anecdote. He said,
wait a minute. I said, okay, I'm moving on. Um.
But I took the tour, and on the tour they
were like fun fat there's a park right over there
in Dorchester that was shut down because asbestos was in
the slides. And I was like, wait, I played him
that park, that's my neighborhood. I said, nobody said why
(05:49):
why the park shut down? They just shut it down. Um,
So that's sort of the vibe. As a former person,
I don't want to call myself in any way a
boss Stonian, but as a person who lived in Boston
for a few years, I can't agree that it's a
weird mix of highly intellectual sort of like peer reviewed
(06:12):
information and then just bullshit, just nonsense, just Irish, Catholic,
black Cape Verdean Vietnamese working class nonsense, and the city
is a mess because of it. But always up in
the skies, you know, there's these planes and who they're flying,
(06:33):
and sort of like around this time, as I'm like
coming aware of things, camp trails as an idea just
sort of like it came into the frontal lobes at
some point. And I remember being with like my mom
and like a few cousins and you know, friends who
are just kind of like mm hmm, these camp Trails.
(06:54):
They're dropping something and I was like, you know, what
are you talking about? Because me, I'm like I'm different.
I go to school or they've forced me to learn Latin,
like I'm an intellectual, Like no way ha put put
on that. Then you know, you started asking questions. You're
like in a minute, like what is going on? Why
(07:15):
is everybody in the streets fighting? Isn't the chim trails?
And there's also this like iconic France video, So there's
like before we were even get into that, before we
get there, get you're moving fast and I love your energy.
You take it back a notch. Goddamnit, slow down, looks man, brother,
(07:38):
cool job turkey. Uh Okay. Before we even get that far,
I do want to say that for our audience at home,
we should explain what kim trails are specifically, So kim
trails as I understand them, and please jump in with
your more clear definition, if there is one. Kim trails
is sort of the fumes that come off of usually
(08:01):
commercial airplanes as they're flying over our heads. And the
theory is that those fumes are in fact intentionally placed
there by the government to uh waft over us and
lead to riots and sort of population control. And so
there's like regular planes, sure, but then in some planes
(08:21):
and that's the thing you don't know what there's like
chemical or biological agents, and they can mess with your mind,
mess with the weather, mess with your body, nest with
certain communities specifically like black and brown and like working
class like poor communities there, and we can't do anything
(08:42):
because we're on the ground. We're on the ground and
ground something one max sure. And that's the thing is
that is just like you said. The theory is is
that they're put these chemicals in certain planes, but it's
(09:03):
not clear which ones they're choosing, and it's very sort
of random. Yes, uh, at least seems random to us,
when in fact it's all government orchestrating for for our
poisoning and or for the control of the weather. Yes,
you know, sometimes there will be like camp trails or
let's say, like regular plane trails that you know, stay
longer in the sky, and the scientists might say, oh, well,
(09:26):
that's just that particular exhaust reaction with the weather or
the humidity or the temperature of that specific area. My
cousin Brian chem Trils says, chem Trils, Mike, Mike, my
cousin DJ. He goes, well, all that's chum Trills J.
It's like listen, listen, listen, I hear your science, but
(09:49):
what you're not accounting for is the fact that I
already know that's camp Trils. Well you're not accounting for
is that I'm the person who showed you that video
of that jay Z song being played back or is
it saying six six six murder murder Jesus murder murder us.
So obviously that's got the site. We don't need their
(10:12):
fancy science when we have jay Z records backwards. Come on. Okay,
So now, following the train that you were already setting
us on, you said that you were originally inspired to
sort of like talk about this from the Prince video
that you caught. Yes, they were like on Facebook, like
(10:36):
I remember that, okay, uh want to feel old now?
Um there remember like going, you know, big on Facebook
and this video of Prince talking and just being like
camp trails are real. Yep. Those are the general Prince noises.
And that was that I believe his hair swooping and
(10:59):
then a little like flair flying forward if that correctly,
from behind him and that's just sort of like spiritual,
energetic maybe from his guitar that's laid off stage on
the side somewhere there for some reason, a little burst
of purple just happens noise. But there's this video of
(11:20):
him where he very seriously is like and obviously prints
a man of science and perfect beliefs. Um. It was like,
you know, I believe in cam trails. Cam trails are real,
and I know that not just because of the work
of the illustrious Dick Gregory, but also because I was
born and raised in Minnesota, and there would be days
where everybody's getting along in the neighborhood, everybody's hanging out.
(11:44):
Then all of a sudden, the plane goes over in
a riot burst and prints, Okay, Mr Raspberry Beret. He's
talking to tab Smiley. Unfortunately canceled Tabi Smiley, which Tavis
didn't jump in at all to be like a prince
(12:04):
chill out on this one. He he was not a
reliable narrator from then. Really, that's fair. We should have
known that Tavis had some ugly secrets by his willingness
to let these chem trails theories just like fly. But
so he's talking to Tavis Smiley and he basically says
that like when he was a kid in Minnesota, he
(12:24):
would watch airplanes all the time. He'd be like, oh, sweet,
that's an airplane. That's tight. But then more and more airplanes,
more and more trails of chemicals, and suddenly his neighborhood
had fallen into misery. Yeah yeah, I mean just half
the neighborhood on fire. Sure, according to Prince. And so
(12:44):
when you watch this video and you hear possibly, I
would argue, one of the most iconic figures in all
of history say that he believes that these chemicals are
leading to riots in the streets, what is your reaction?
Don't believe? No? I was just like, well, something's going on, sure, something,
(13:06):
something's happening. Um. And obviously, like the man who is
a full like type pants wearing Jehovah's witness, it has
confusion built into the brain. Drills are real. I really
just just like, oh, a lot more people believe this
than I realized. And I guess I'm like doing some
(13:27):
also digging in. I mean, I don't know that this
breaks the bounds of your podcast, but I realized, like, oh,
this isn't just like a black thing, which I kind
of thought it was just because I guess I was
raised around mostly black people, and so then I go, oh,
it's a black thing. Oh, well, living in Boston is
(13:48):
a black thing. I go, but a black city, my
mother like it has horse blinders on my eyes. Like, man,
this is a blackdown, black as hell awesome. In the background,
(14:09):
Mark Wahlberg fully beating up children a pill are left
and right, was knocking an Asian man by out and
just then going on to make beautiful. I can't see it.
I can't see what am I supposed to do? Um
fine acting career as well, that guy good and Boogie Knights. Listen.
If you haven't seen the happening, go watching Mark Wahlberg stunts. Folks.
(14:36):
If you have not seen that happening. Folks, folks, you
got to see the happening, go to your nearest theater. Now,
I tell you now it's no, it's not well, go
see it anyway. But yeah, I don't know. I thought
it was like mostly a black thing, and then I
(14:56):
was like, oh, there's oh, there's white people also important
airs who like they got jars, they got jars from
the air and the air is a weird color. Yeah,
so what's going on because there is a weird color
is that I don't know if my air, my air
(15:18):
is clear. The air in his jar is not clear,
so is brown chunk Chunk. I would venture to guess
that it's a poor person's interpretation of larger problems that
they're probably seeing in their community, you know what I mean,
Like there's already some smog because of a fucking steel
(15:40):
factory or whatever evil things some other person put up.
You don't know how to deal with the fact that
the steel factory is there because they employ you or
somebody you love, and so instead you just go, man,
that airplanes trying to kill me dog. I mean half
of the fights were probably people arguing whether or not
it was cam trails or you know, the local plant
(16:01):
like infecting the air in the water, And that's probably
the fight that got everybody going crazy. Sure there's one
reasonable person in the neighborhood like, hey, man, I actually
think it's uh that capitalism fighting now fighting? Now, what
the fun did you say about my capitalism? I love
(16:21):
my capitalism. Anything about your fucking capitalism? Man, I didn't
say nothing. Now we gotta fight. So you don't believe, Prince,
but you do believe potentially that something is happening, that
there might be something more to these airplanes. I mean,
but I think to the point of what you're saying
also the player of just like we don't know what's
(16:42):
going on, Like you know, I think so much about
like when you read a history book and you're like,
ha hah, these idiots put lynches on their body, and
like a hundred years from now, some kid on like
a Mars colony is going to be like ha ha
they use microwaves. You Like, there's there's things that are
a part of our everyday life right now that are
(17:05):
absolutely psychotic and bad for us, and we don't know
how or why. I mean, I'm drinking I'm drinking fluorescent sodas.
You know that can't be good for the bones, not
at all. When I was a kid, I used to
go to the gas station every day and I would
buy a big gulp of mountain dew, just every single day,
(17:27):
because they were like a dollar at the time, and
I get a dollar, I'd go buy a big gulp
of mountain dew and it was free refills on that
mountain dew, so I would go refill it a day,
and multiple dudes a day. And now I can't touch
my toes and you can't convince me that those aren't related.
(17:48):
I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. I used
to be very athletic, very flexible. Okay, then fifth grade
I started babysitting and I started getting a little bit
of pocket change. What I would do every day after
school was going to Burger King and get a five
piece nugget and of soda because I could get that
for two dollars, and I started eating that every day.
(18:10):
I didn't gain weight, because I don't have the body
that gains weight. But I'll tell you what. The end
of the year, I tried to do a split and
my hips hurt so much in the way that is inexplicable.
I believe it is because of the nuggets. I don't
believe it's because of the nuggets and that fluorescent sweet
and sour sauce. What the hells and that and that's
absolutely correct. It was those nuggets. It did something to
(18:32):
your joints and your bones that made them not joints
and bones. Never gonna do a split again. No, it's
just it's McDonald's meat in there from now on, and
it ain't built for splits. That's built for more nuggets.
That's outsourced the meat from just another fast for the restaurant.
They're just swapping meat back and forth, mistaking your meat
(18:52):
and replacing it. Well, okay, so you do open your
eyes up in a way, I guess is what I'm
hearing to the possibility that they're sort of like more
conspiracy happening in the world, even if it's not this,
even if it's not exactly that, but it opens us
to like more conspiracy of that, and also like this
(19:15):
brand of like hotel obspiracy where it's like, you know,
brother sharing, like Dick Gregory videos betwixt each other. Yeah,
old man just being like, now tell you what it's like. Oh,
well this this isn't right. I know this isn't right.
You're a hundred first of all, killer did Gregory impression?
(19:38):
I think you nailed it, but I do it is
It's a hard thing, especially as a comic, where it's
like Dick Gregory is a very iconic figure in the
space of comedy, do you know what I mean? Like
he's an important person, but it's also an old man
just getting old and saying old stuff. And so you're
balancing like, all right, how do I backfully say that
(20:01):
this old motherfucker is wrong? Right? But he just isn't
nailing it anymore. No, And it's like, thank you, sir
for what you did. I believe you did it. I
believe I believe you did it. You can take the
victory lab. You haven't say anything new anymore. I wasn't
around for it, but I hear you did great stuff.
(20:22):
I love what I've heard that you do. But maybe
just said this one out like boy, because just just produce, right,
this is a Dick Gregory production. This is a Dick joint.
You Dick joint, Hello, Dick joint when you see it.
(20:46):
If Dick Gregory would have started calling his production dick picks. Ok, okay,
he's a multi hyphen that it's a and then you
you watch a real serious movie about Kim Tree. Oh man,
if only we had more time, Only we had more time.
(21:07):
Afraid to God, those chemicals they're dropping. Bring him back
to life so that we can start producing radiating He
drops and brings him back delay old hand verse through
the earth, and Dick Gregory gets to make He doesn't
want to bite heads and like murder people. He just
(21:29):
wants to make it. I'm back now. I want to produce.
God damn it. All right, we're gonna take a break
and we'll be back with more Iowa, Debri and more.
My mama told me we are Have you ever had
(21:57):
a dreaming? You you what you can do? You do
you want? You? You could do? So? You you do
you could? You want? You want him to do you
so much? You could do anything? Yeah, we're back. We're
back here with that was dope? Right, that goes? Listen
(22:22):
play that in the club playing I'm absolutely I'm getting
the knee braced back out. Sure, no, but I could.
I could break a few other things. That's the shot.
I get the knees going crazy. That's why I play it.
I want to see the knees go crazy. One of
the b drops. That's cold. He just he just and
(22:44):
you ever and you and you and you want you know,
he's a champ. And I hope he's doing okay because
that video was recorded and like it had to be
like uh n, yeah, there's no way this hasn't negatively
affected his life. I hope he's okay, doing the best
(23:05):
can with what he's got. Right, You're you're a meme
for the rest of your life. And maybe you're lucky
enough that people don't recognize you and and treat you
with any sort of like malice or maybe you have
to write that on your job applications and address it
with everyone you meet. Yep, is he you? I was
(23:28):
a lot lighter when I was You know kids that
go from blonde to brunette. Well that was me, but
all over my hair was fine, finest silk. And uh,
I'm ashamed of what I said, and I just wish
you all would give me the space to work it out. Well,
(23:48):
what is a podcast about that? Uh, it's probably a
desperate call for attention, but you know, we'll figure out
which one. By the end of this we will solve
many problems, including that one. Okay, let's talk research. I
did some research on kim trails that I want us
(24:08):
to sort of unpack together and feel free to jump in, disagree,
disregard anything that I'm saying or presenting to you. So,
what people are calling kim trails is actually something called contrails,
which comes from the word condensation, which is just the
warm exhaust uh mixing with cold temperatures to form trails
of vapor in the sky. Right, and then along with
(24:33):
that vapor. Uh. The the kim trail element of it
is people assuming that that vapor because of how long
it stays in the sky or the distance that it
sort of covers, is associated with some sort of like
chemical attack from the government. Yes, So to your earlier point,
(24:53):
many of the theorists, theorists, I should know the word.
I'm I wrote it down. I just can't say it
on account of my speech impediment. But the theorists believe
that the chemicals, you know, out of all the speech
impediments you could get, it's not the worst, it's not
the worst, and it humanizes you in a way that
I think is good. Sure, otherwise, how could you ever
(25:16):
relate with me? So a lot of the argument sort
of claimed that these chemicals lead to either violence or
control in the weather. And there's a video I watched
of this dude talking to a news reporter where he
collected some of the chem trails in a jar and
claimed that those chemicals, those specific chemicals he had found
(25:37):
in the jar were responsible for a tornado that came
through his town like a week before the chemicals were collected. Essentially, ill,
how did you catch that? How did you get the air? Also,
like if there was wind blowing a little bit early
and you just caught stuff. You know, he just got junk.
(25:58):
Maybe some of it is junk. Um. There probably are
also to like some experiments where people are trying to
like control weather. I don't know if it is for
like tornadoes as much as maybe trying to get places
where it's very dry and air that needs rain, like,
you know, get the clouds a little bit feeled, a
(26:19):
little bit horny, you know, those clouds them. I think
what you're referring to is something that often is conflated
with kim trails, which is something called geo engineering. I
want you to keep going, but I will just say,
(26:40):
as somebody who is at one time training to be
a teacher and did some student teaching, and you, who
has a history in education, I love that you made
a teaching moment and very organic and I went, wait, yeah,
I do love to learn. Wait, maybe Shakespeare and Biggest
Smalls are the same. Yeah, I'm teach. Hey, wait a minute,
(27:03):
I might switch my hat from backwards to forwards. You're spitting, teach.
Let's go, I'm gonna take off my drug selling hat
and put on my listening hat, because teach, you got
my ears. Yeah, maybe this hoodlum cap look better as
a graduation cap yche oh captain life reaking ideal. So
(27:32):
the geo engineering is in fact a real science. Solar
geo engineering specifically is where they work to create technologies
that might enable people to like add materials to the
atmosphere as a technique of reflecting the sunlight back to
space and like partially reduced climate change or the accumulation
(27:56):
of greenhouse gases. So it is sort of rooted in
a real science. It just isn't at all connected to
airplanes or chemicals falling from the sky. I mean, this
is sort of like okay, chemtril's honestly, can I say
they they're kind of like early fake news where it's like, Okay,
there's a news nugget, there's something in here that's true.
(28:19):
But this has been so warped by like bad information
and people not totally understanding something and like screenshotting and
re sharing this until it's absolutely burnt Crispy Fried at
the edges. Yes, it's it's just a game of like
very dumb telephone. They're dangerous telephone even because people are
(28:41):
basically just taking this story and then running with it
in the wrong direction, and so even to your point
about the geo engineering. One of the things that scientists
say is that geo engineering, although it is technically a
science that people are studying, it's not something they're even
studying in a public space yet, Like they don't put
(29:01):
it out in the air because of the risk that
like putting something in the atmosphere might actually have very
dangerous negative effects on the population or the planet as
a whole. So it's not real. So what's in the
guy's jars? And that's the question. So one of the
(29:22):
things that he found in his jar, and one of
the things that people keep pointing to as a cause
for the thing that we're worried about, which is like
all these fights and and weird effects on the community,
is people claim that they in every jar that they
sort of collect our extreme amounts of barium. Barium which
(29:43):
apparently causes a person to experience breathing difficulties, increase blood pressure,
heart rhythm changes, stomach irritation, muscle weakness changes as a
nerve reflexes. It just basically fux up your body, uh,
and potentially your brain as well. I feel like if
most metals that you eat, if you eat it, it
(30:03):
will do that. Yes, it's not like you can eat
some metal and it's like that's a good metal. Oh,
that's a good metal that you want. What you need
is a little bit of plut that you need some
some harder, softer metals in your body. Doesn't worry. I've
(30:23):
got a guy. He'll give you some great metals. That's
a baron bro mind for you. Yeah, don't worry, It'll
fix you right up. They're just serving like metal on
a charcouterie board that's also made of metal. Listen, I
don't know what assistant at Goop that's trying to get
a promotion is listening to this. So we're giving a
free idea right now. Oh No, Gwyneth Paltrow is a fan,
(30:45):
she's a regular. She's shaving that down, sprinkling that on
some gelatto. You know what I'm saying, Fat gelatto, that's Gwen.
Gwyneth wants that. Gwyneth already on that, So you gotta
get those medals in that gelatto. And she knows where
the best medals and the best at is in the city.
It's not her fault if she knows, it's not her fault.
(31:06):
She's just telling you what she knows. Why Are you
all so mad at her? Because she's sharing hard facts
that she knows from out in the world, are facts
which are things that she knows because she heard it somewhere,
and because she's a reliable source. Why would any of
us question Gwyneth Paltrow. Sorry that her website is good. Sorry,
(31:27):
you're mad that she's got a good layout. Mm hmmm.
You're mad that she used to that dude from Coldplay.
You're jealous and you ain't letting her shine. Yeah, you
can say they're cheesy now, but I know we were
all boffing the yellow. You have it well up to yellow.
You're lying. You're lying to me if you're gonna tell
me the scientists didn't bring a tear to your telling me.
(31:50):
You watch that music video. You saw him go backwards backwards.
And this was before TikTok. This is before we knew
that he walked red learn and then they just played
it backwards. This was this was groundbreaking entertainment. He had
to learn the whole song, all the lyrics backwards. That's
come on, it's hard to do. Chris Martin, the backwards God,
(32:12):
Chris Martin, we love them god? Oh hell Okay, So
one of the other things that they connect to these
metals that we're talking about, right, The claim is, and
this is where the metals sort of get complicated for people,
is that they're claiming that the metals are also sort
of like coated with micro organisms in nanotechnology, which are
(32:36):
able to bore into the skin, leading to the fighting
and the uproar in your community. There's something so specific
about like poor fear of nanotechnology. Yes, there's something really specific.
And I and it links with Christianity as well, because
I mean, my biggest figure as a child was having
(32:58):
a chip in me. And obviously the chip will be
the mark of the devil um or is something to
control my mind? And is that in the Bible? No?
But but the Bible's poetry, right, and so you translate
and you put your life what is true? And I said, oh,
micro chip. The devil has grown, The devil has has evolved.
(33:23):
He's a shape shifter and obviously is able to adapt
to the modern age much more easily than um any angels.
I might say, but that's not it's not me. It's
what some might say. And obviously quoting the way that
UM even now, like when I see a news story
(33:43):
that's like guy puts microchip in body to get into house.
I like, you know, I should a really quickly, even
as I like, don't go to church anymore, and I go, Father, God,
you know obviously it's been a while. Just in case
sort of you and I have anything that we need
to work out. I just want to say, and that
there is that stuff that like I get it. You know,
(34:06):
religion obviously is an allegory and like it isn't like
hard based fact necessarily, and some people treat it that way.
But there is stuff that like human beings do where
I'm like, all right, dog, that's a sin. That's a
sin against nature. That's not that's not what God wanted
for us. Elon, must leave that, leave that pig alone.
(34:30):
Why would you put it? Leave it alone? Elon? That's wrong.
That is wrong. You know, whenever somebody says something like
even slightly offensive to me, I go, well, so sad
they're going to hell to burn eternally. That sucks for them.
I guess they made don't love this six minutes stand
(34:51):
up set that that I did go to hell forever.
Just what I heard. That's that's what they're saying. Just
reading listen, we can be here in the street. But yeah,
so people are claiming that this nanotechnology, this microorganisms and
nanotech is one of the ways you can tell that
(35:12):
it's nanotech. This is a claim is that it causes
a skin condition called more Golans Morgellons something I don't know,
Lord of the rings. More door, you get more door.
But so this Morglon's condition causes lesions and rashes on
(35:37):
your skin, which people are claiming is sort of like,
as you would put it, the mark of the devil.
It's the mark of like these reigning or you know,
micro organisms falling from the sky. And there is probably
just again like another sort of explanation. I mean, I mean, hey, listen,
(36:00):
you know, who's to say where we are in a
hundred years, but there probably is something to like somebody
having sores and itching and then walking around you know,
not super developed or clean or you know, have has
good air or water quality or whatever stuff's getting in
(36:22):
their skin, right, I would I would argue that drinking
flint water is probably that might do. The might not
be the sky that might be about what's going on. Yeah,
we we can see some of the stuff that probably
is causing our skin conditions. I McDonald's three times a week.
(36:45):
If I got a skin condition, it's probably that that,
you know what I mean, it's that that did that
to me. It wasn't fucking you know, raining particles from
the air. So with that one of the ways that
they say you can help prevent the risk of Morgellons
or risk of these microorganisms attacking you. And this was
(37:06):
one of my favorite parts of the research. Some theorists
claim that you can use strong magnets to pull the
nanotechnology out of your book. That's right, that like you
basically what's cut scene from X makoma, that's that's in
the matrix. That's the matrix. Uh was there? There was
(37:28):
no magnets when it's on the bug. Oh, that's right,
you're right. I forgot that you're a matrix historian, and
I I shouldn't dared. I spent money on that degree.
I spent my money. I'm gonna flount where I can.
(37:48):
I didn't go to four years of matrix college to
have you just misrespected like this on your podcast. I
went to Phoenix University dot do you slash matrix before years?
I earned my degree. I earned a goddamn it. I
(38:10):
love the idea that the professor just calls himself Morpheus too.
He's just that's Morpheus too. He knows he's not disrespectful,
you know, and he knows he knows what he represents
as well. I support it. Sending a really nervous email
at high um Professor Morpheus two. I just wanted to
check in, UM, you know, as the middle of the
(38:30):
semester is approaching, and obviously I've done my best. UM
thinks have been really difficult as the landline philles near
my apartment have all been taken by the government, and
so I'm having a hard time doing the homework. I
hope you won't, you know, look against me in that regard. UM,
thank you so much. UM. I love this semester. The
teen exclamation points, and then he just writes back, the
(38:54):
work is the work you get if if you don't
show up, you fail. He hacks my email and fails
me immediately. So here's where it gets even more fascinating,
because I found myself asking the question, what is the
real goal of these riots? What's the real want here
on the part of the government, Because I can't imagine
that just like the streets burning is their intention. And
(39:18):
so a lot of people connected to this thing called HARP,
this program high Frequency Active Oreel Research programed HARP right,
which basically was developed by the US military as a
tool for the study of ion sphere for the movement
of like radio communications and surveillance. So they're basically the
(39:39):
government is saying, like, we want to improve our ability
to like use satellites to surveil our enemies wherever they
may be and like connect with like you know, everything,
and we're gonna like study how to make the ion
sphere a little more like penetrable, if that makes sense.
And then everybody claims that study is bullshit and that's
(40:02):
actually them putting together like the equipment for poisoning us. Interesting. Yeah,
I mean, like because I think two of the Prince
allegory where he was saying that the issue is when
there's harmony in these areas that's like that are poorer
or seem like they're going to have some sort of
like you know, community or financial gain or upward mobility
(40:26):
or stability, and it's like capitalism only work when people
are under the boot, Like it only works if there
is um are there are people who can be suppressed
and oppressed and can be like turned in this machine.
And so to like so seeds of discord is to
(40:48):
make sure it works and to make sure that the
people who are supposed to be on the bottom, for
whatever reason like stay there. So also it's that thing
like I don't know erin Brockovich vibes, where it's like,
don't learn about what is gonna hurt you or else
or else that. Yeah, I think you're you're making two
(41:14):
excellent points here that like even if there's a possibility
that not even a possibility, if we're even agreeing that
Kim Charles in fact are not real. But this is
just sort of an absurd interpretation of what is real
and normal real thing. What it does do effectively is
create chaos emotionally for the people who either believe it
(41:38):
or don't believe it, and keeps people in a position
of sort of like suffering or victimhood at the hands
of the government, right that you can't really beat. And
then in that way, it's like its own interpretation of
what's real, you know what I mean, Like that there
(41:58):
is truth in that and in what's happening to Yeah,
I would argue that I think that's where the government
is at its strongest, is when they can just convince
us some they don't even have to spend the money
to send airplanes with chemicals in them. They could just
convince us there's chemicals in the airplane because we can't
(42:19):
prove them wrong. Yeah. Ever, and anybody who even suggests
that it's wrong is as you get called crazy or
or a fucking you're either crazy or you're a part
of the problem, and perfect places to be. Yeah, be
called either crazy or not. It's it's just a wild
(42:44):
sort of like a middle ground. And even so so
following that sort of connection of people being called crazy
or connected to the police or or the powers that be,
every scientist who refutes this, naturally, scientists all over the
world are saying, you guys are being ridiculous. This isn't
a thing. They say, like, well, even if you think
(43:05):
that this is real, it would be unreasonable to think
that an entire organization would be able to fill these
planes with these chemicals. And nobody snitches, like nobody ever,
like steps outside and it's like, hey, bro, they're poisoning you,
which has never happened in the history of the planet.
Like the amount of work and energy you would have
(43:27):
to put to get people to all agree that poisoning
the planet is okay and and not tell anyone they
love is impossible. It's unless those scientists are being told otherwise.
Unless that's how they get you. That's how they get you.
(43:50):
All Right, We're gonna take another break and then we'll
be back with more. I owe Debrie and more, my
mama told me. And we are bat. We're bat. We're bat.
(44:26):
We're back with more. Ioa, Debrie. We're back with more.
My mama told me. We're having a great time talking
about these skim trails and the crazy that it spawns.
It bursts in our community, both right and wrong. That's journey.
That's one of my favorite drops that I've ever thought of.
(44:46):
And our producer Nick, who is a kind man and
a very patient human being. It needs to be arrested,
abolished the police. But arrest Nick for that right before
you get kicked out. Police arresting it up. Please, I've
(45:07):
got something to report. Let that be your last piece
of paperwork. Officer is just arresting Nick and sending him
to jail. Okay, we're gonna play a game. I have
a very fun game that This is a new segment
that I call Millionaires Say the Darndest Things. Hello, don't
(45:29):
hang up for me. I have plenty of energy to
drive over there. Do you understand me? Okay, this is
a fun game called Millionaires Say the Darndest Things, in
which I want to read to you some celebrity quotes
on the issue of Kim trails and their conspiracy theories
around it, things that they've posted, things that they've sort
(45:51):
of retweeted, things that they've claimed. And I would love
for you to just unpack why these iconic figures And
this is really an homage to your podcast Psiconography, where
where I would love for you to really just I pack.
You treat me well. You treat me well. I like
to plug. I like to plug. I like to plug.
And it's a wonderful podcast and I want people to
(46:12):
listen to it, but they better listen to my ship first.
And that's why we plug it in the middle, right Okay, there,
we make them, We make them earn it. Listen to
us talk, then you earn the plug. Then you earn
the plug. But so I would love for you to
(46:32):
unpack why you think these icons have chosen to spread
the conspiracy theory that they've chosen to spread. Does that
make sense? I think I'm up for the task. Hell yeah.
So the first one comes from Queen Kylie Jenner Kylie
Jenner in she posted on Twitter, and she still hasn't
taken it down. She says, let's ask ourselves. Why did
(46:57):
I see seventy five planes spring white stuff on my
fifteen minute drive to work? Who pays for this? And
why is it happening? Is something being exterminated here? Is
that something? Me? Does that have anything to do with
why honey bees are dying off really fast? Why are
some days normal with no plane sprying and others like this?
(47:17):
Who's responsible? What effect will this have on our health
and our children's future? Who the fuck thought this was
a good idea? Am I the only one who sees this?
Oh my god? Okay? Wait? Also this was like you said,
that's right, old body, Kylie. Wow, I mean old everything
(47:40):
really and also apparently old brain that still ridges in it.
Those are many sentences off. I wonder if this is
pre her realizing things? Remember that, I remember that when
everybody loved that, when she was realizing things? Yeah, that
was I think you're referring to when she like tried
cereal for the first time. Yeah, she had like a
(48:02):
few revelations around very basic human experiences. But I mean,
what this really says to me, right, is that she's
a thinker, and she's um constantly questioning, learning, growing, um,
you know, combating the ideas that we are supposed to know.
I'm obsessed with. I mean, let's ask ourselves. She she
(48:24):
she poses, it's not about the self, it's about the community.
She brings all of us in and says, you know,
everybody here, you good bystander, you Mr mailman, you, Mr
trash collector, oh, miss nurse. Let's ask ourselves. Why did
I Why did I mean on a fifteen minute to
(48:48):
see seventy five points? Am I near an airport? Because
I saw seventy five planes in the sky? Do I
do I literally have private jet flying onto my giant property,
maybe playing convention in town this weekend? Because I saw
seventy five planes in fifteen minutes? Have I accidentally landed
(49:12):
in a war zone? Did I forget that I'm in
a war zone? And that's why I saw seventy five planes?
And work is that I'm in the military. Now is
this nineteen and I'm in Soviet territory? Is that what's happening?
Or kim trails. She's asking perfect questions. When is something
being exterminated? I think, oh, you know, when when I go, oh,
(49:36):
there might be a little mouse, maybe a little bumpy
quality creepy in my apartment. Time to call seventy five planes?
That's what I Oh, that's what I do. So she's
the thinker, is what you're saying. She's a thinker. And
I looked up the post and I'm also saying, okay,
she goes honey bees apostrophe s. She's saying, who's is responsible?
(49:58):
Who's is instable? With the sea? You know, I should
note that I cleaned it up. She wasn't exactly. She
was typing frantically, I assume because of how upset she
was and how many planes were flying so close to
her and also low as well. The fumes were getting
(50:21):
in her brain, they were melting things. She had to
get this out quickly, so Grammar went out the landing
in her eyes so she could really see things are clearly.
She was typing, and that's why her skin looks weird. Now.
I think it is because of the micro organism. People
don't realize she hasn't been getting fillers and her lips
have been getting done. It's it's um the after effects
(50:43):
of um Mungo mungo knowles. Those are just nano chips. Baby,
that's you can thick from the nano chips. That's not
science building up in her ats and her fads. Oh baby,
you got nano chip ass. That's all that's happened to you. Baby.
(51:05):
You look beautiful, But those are nano chips. In y
my long social justice posts on Instagram where I'm like,
we must stop glorifying nano chips no more. You're like
promoting body positivity while simultaneously yeah, why did you even
(51:26):
go and supporting thing um m and I do a
lot at the same time, and I want to apologize
for it. That's what we call the trifect. And I
hear you in this business absolutely all right. Let me
read you another fun one. This one comes from Hayden Panetary.
(51:46):
You know her heros from from Heroes Fame. That's right, Hayden.
She also was in that movie what is it Skater Boys? Okay,
I just she was in something called Skater Boys Racing Stripes.
Anybody remember that the movie about the zebra whose biggest
(52:09):
dream was to become a racing horse. Biscuit. Pretty bad,
pretty bad. That's not great. Zebras are noticeably smaller than
racing horses. I don't know how that will work. But
because they had, because it believed Doug, I thought you
were inteligent. No, I'm an idiot. But okay, so Hayden
(52:29):
right and smashed that movie. I'll tell you what, folks,
you got to see it. After you see the happening,
go see Racing Stripes. A lot of theaters will do
it as a double feature. You just gotta ask you
that you don't have the secret movie venue trick is?
Do you have to ask at a time. I'd like
(52:50):
to see that to advocate for themselves, I say, I
want my double feature. I want to know you know
what I want. I want to happen to you after
the other. I'll expect my half cherry, half blue Raspberry
icy in the seat when I walk in, very much,
and obviously I will not be mixing the flavors. I'll
enjoy one for one film and one for the other
(53:12):
the other. What do you think I am? I do
you think I was raised. I was born and raising
the black estellar Boston, Massachusetts. You watch your mouth, Okay,
So Hayden write, what the heck are they spraying over us?
It's been happening for years, but only this extreme for
(53:36):
the past few months. Monkey emoji with his hands over
his mouth. It's about the well the emoji is good,
and she's saying no more. I love the like. I
just like that. It is a call to action that
it is like, so everybody's been seeing this, right, so
we all know. It's like, I'm just like you, regular folk.
(53:59):
There's stuff in this guy, and I gotta ask. I'm
fed up. We're all fed up. Let's make some choices.
Let's make some choices now. I hope it didn't impact
I hope it didn't impact her acting and on heroes.
I hope she felt safe and comfortable on set and
wasn't you know, didn't have that perfect role destroyed by
(54:20):
the fear of chim trails. Really well, I will say
this is a tweet from seventeen, so it was post well,
she's free to tweet, She's she's available to tweet at
that time. I love the idea that she was on
set of heroes sort of holding all of this in
until they finally gave her the freedom to unleash those tweets.
(54:44):
You know, I just love the idea of like her,
like you know, she just like moved closer to an
airport seeing stuff, and she's like, look, they're spraying things
on me again. Yeah, they're spraying things on me again.
Her career is getting worse, so she's forced to move
closer to an airport, and then simultaneously she's building more
conspiracy or it's getting better, so she wants to be closer.
(55:06):
We don't know, I've never heard of that. I've never
heard of anybody, uh their career getting so much better
that they live by the airport. You know, your Bill
Murray famously has that voicemail that you can only leave
things on. And he lives in a hotel, one of
those ones that flight attendants staying. Yeah, he lives in.
(55:27):
And you can Bill Murray and Hayden Panetta, you are
the only ones that have the success to live by
the airport. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna read you one more.
I'm gonna read you one more fun one and then
I hope she's well, I'm thinking about we gotta get
a hero's reboot on Peacock, for she needs something to
(55:49):
stay busy. She kenet be looking at the sky, and
bad for actors to look at the sky. We don't
need them looking up their focus on these lines, read
these sides. Okay. This last quote comes from Billy Corgan.
Do you know Billy Corgan? Oh? I do, Billy Corgan
of the Smashing Pumpkins, Billy Corgan who dated Tila Tequila.
(56:09):
So we've already got this information of a working genius.
And uh so Billy Corgan says. This is from September two,
September six, five days after the celebration or memory of
nine eleven. Billy Corgan had this. He said, hopefully they
won't kim trail us all to death tonight before the
(56:33):
Big Rock Show. L O L, I just love poison
raining down so fun. Okay, elevating the art form by
using it as a verb. First wow. After the Big
Rock Show, Billy Corgan had a big shell that evening
and and he was like, oh, I know they're coming
(56:54):
and getting me. He's not denying the possibility that will
eventually die. He just doesn't want us to die before
the big rock show, so true, so brid of him
as well. He listened the Government's gonna kill us. Billy
Corgan already knows this. He's willing to laugh it off,
but not before his big rock show. No, I never
(57:16):
Billy Corgan is like so deeply confusing as a person,
and he's like so like he has so many opinions
and yet they all amount to much. Yeah, none of
them are built with a sturdy backing. No, he's like
part Catholic, part Buddhist. He has met shape shifters before,
(57:36):
obviously once again, just half to say againd dated um
now famously you know, famously BISEXUALNX with blue eye. Get
you a woman who can do both? Okay, not naturally
so you know it's operating on a high frequency. Here,
(57:58):
he's a man who understand and there there are elements
of the inexplicable in life, right, and so to have
him point out chem drills, I think, I say thank you, sir.
I tipped my hat to you, Mr Corgan, baldest man alive.
Perhaps this doesn't make me feel weird about your music
at all. This Actually I feel awesome, perfect still listening
(58:20):
to your song because I feel really, really good listening
to nineteen seventy five. I don't care. Why should I?
You're normal? Well, what the heck you're normal? What the
heck you're normal? Billy Corgan? I think nine? Also, I
said five, I do that. It's okay. I mean, my
listeners will never forgive you. But it happened, and you
burn black people who listened to the Smashing Pumpkins, which
(58:43):
there are, and Janelle James is proof. Okay, hell yeah,
you and Janelle. That's about it. But they exist and
they're both mad. And Janelle, well, I I think we
did it. I think we did the whole thing. Thank
you so much. We were great. This was some it's fun.
Could you tell the people where they can find you
what cool stuff? Yeah? I can. My socials are all
(59:08):
at Iowa debris Um, so you can find me there.
My name is spelled like it's probably spelled on the podcast.
But do you need me to spell it? Just let
me know if you do, but quickly, because I'm about
to see it. Like nobody's called damn um and um. Yeah.
(59:31):
I'm working on a few shows and so if if
stuff pops up them, I'll post it there. I get
a little dumb videos and whatever. I don't though, and
my podcast Iconography that you can listen to wherever you
also listen to podcasts, So here unless you downloaded this
from lime wire or some such sting um. But it's
(59:53):
me and my friend Olivia, who is a genius, and
we interview really funny, cool smart people about icons to
them and we have fun conversations and one day, Langston
on the point this, this is why we podcast, folks,
for the biggest for the big opportunities that get thrown
(01:00:16):
back at us. What an honor and thank you Io.
I would love to be on that podcast. I would
love to be on Iconography because it's a fantastic podcast
and you're a fantastic podcast host. And I appreciate you
for doing my podcast one more time, Ladies and gentlemen,
for Iowa Debris, everybody that's to be rich here and
(01:00:38):
for you and this you can. I love you all.
I love you all on this pigment and and we're
all going to cough in each other's mouths right now,
and thank you for listening. You can follow me at
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you have anything that you would like to send us.
Be at artwork, be it music, be it drops, be
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