July 27, 2023 • 20 mins
Kris and Andi share how they learned about their bodies and sex, Kris from a home where sex was discussed in detail and encouraged, and Andi who was raised in the evangelical purity movement where sex was to be reserved only for those who are married.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi, I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Andy and this is my vagina said why. It's episode one.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We did it. We won win or Win a chicken dinner.
So we entered and won a contest the search for
the next great female podcasters from Esenica Women, iHeart and Tango.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It is still so surreal. So thanks for being with us.
This is our podcast. It's a conversation about women's bodies
and it's a place for us to share our stories.
And we are here for it all all the gross,
the weird, the embarrassing. We want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Every week we will be discussing what our vaginas are
saying to us, what your vaginas are saying to you,
and we will figure this shit out together or not
or not. And when we say vaginas, we don't mean
the anatomy. That is something we will definitely discuss in
another episode.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
We mean for that one good, We mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The essence of a woman's body. The vagina is our womanhood.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That feels very spiritual.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All good, It is spiritual. My vagina is very spiritual.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Mine is not.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, So before we get started, let's demonstrate a little
bit of credibility for our listeners. Andy, where do you
think our vagina authority comes from?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
First love that hard hitting sixty minute style question, Chris,
uh huh, And I did know you were going to
ask me this, so I thought about it in the
shower today. And I think that our credibility, the everyday
vagina comes from us sharing our stories, and it comes
(01:57):
from us asking questions, and it from not making things
so weird or feel like our bodies are falling out.
Do you remember the first time you had a blood
clot in the shower? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, I mean what did you do?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh? I picked it up and expected it. I wanted
to know what it was.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It was terrifying, it was it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And hopefully our daughters will now know right that happens
and you can squish that down.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
With your big toe or your fingers or your fingers.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And plus, I just feel like I trust you, I
trust myself. I trust women's instincts more than I trust
doctors and Google.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh yeah, a women's intuition is real. I truly believe
that because back in the day, in the caveman times,
men would hunt and their natural instincts were cued in
for that we did not have to hunt. We still
had our cycles back then, and we still have our
cycles now. So therefore we still have our natural instincts
(03:05):
because we still cycle every month, and men they don't.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
What is some deep ass vagina shit? Chris? I like that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Plus, I was calculating together, you and I have over
ninety years of vagina experience together. Yeah, and so I
feel like our experience and our listeners experience all of
us together, we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And we're gonna share our stories together and learn from
each other.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Absolutely, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Where do you think our vagina authority comes from?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't know. Vagina and body talk have never been
a private subject to me. All I need is like
a receptive person to talk to, and then I'll end
up having a conversation about what most people find embarrassing
or private. And honestly, most of the women that I
know talk to me openly about their vaginas and their bodies.
I think I just give off this. You can talk
(04:03):
to me about anything, let's discuss it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Vibe you do, and you've always.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Been down to talk about the dirty stuff with me. True,
you talk to me about stuff that you wouldn't talk
to your mom.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
About very true. So do you remember how we met?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't I do.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We were working at a radio station. You were in marketing,
I was in sales, and I remember walking into your
office and I saw you standing up with your arms
on the top of a filing cabinet, leg spread open,
doing a full on reenactment of the birth of your
(04:40):
second son. Oh yeah, in front of a great group
of people. And I was so impressed with that, and
I just fell in love with you right away.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I don't exactly remember how we met. I just remember
meeting you and thinking she's so sweet and delicate. She's
got this sweet little voice. And then out wilcome these
trucker sounds. You would lugi, you would fur fart, wait
time out. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
In my defense, I have a deviated septum. I'm so
sorry and allergies.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I'm sorry about your deviated But what is your excuse
for all the farting that you do? I don't know.
I don't know. Farting is like my kryptonite. It's just
something I can't stand. And to be honest with you,
you and my husband are the only people that fart
around me where I don't get an attitude because it's
just it's expected, it's what you do.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I just have always liked potty humor, So I think
it goes back to that. When I was a kid,
I had a friend over. We were eating dinner in
the kitchen and I farted at the dinner table and
my mom sent.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Me to eat in the basement. Well, my friend Laura
had to sit any dinner with my family.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No parting at the dinner table is a definite no no.
And I also remember we bonded over what terrible drivers
we both are.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, you're worse than me though.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, you're still a bad driver. It doesn't matter who's worse.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's true, I am a terrible driver.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We actually have matching dents in our bumpers.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Mine is more like a hole with now white duct
tape over it, and yours is a big dent. Oh yes,
they are on our Instagram page.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Go check it out.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes, there, I have a big done. And actually that's
like the third accident that I've had that has been
all my fault.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I've had several my fault as well. No shame
in that you're still.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Worse than me. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm a bad driver. Sue me.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So truly.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Ever since we met twenty one years ago, no topic
has been off the table, and over the course of
our friendship, we've never lived more than twenty minutes away
from each other. Still in Harrisburg, PA. We talk on
the phone for hours at a time. We listen to
each other, breathe a lot. We vacation with our families,
(07:06):
and we see each other as often as possible, which
is not easy with eight kids.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Between us, so it's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I also think it's an important flex to share that
I know your ovulation schedule better than you, or at
least I have in the past.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Absolutely, I think that's a great flex. You would check
in with me when I was ovulating and we would
discuss how stretchy my discharge needed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Oh my gosh, point your finger.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
To some Yes. Absolutely, and it really helped with the
disappointment and stress of the fertility treatments, just having you
always check in on me. You don't know how much
I relied on you for that support. It was so
much harder than I thought it was going to be,
and we would chat and laugh about the gross parts.
I honestly couldn't have survived it without you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, you are my person too, You who are who
I think of first when I'm stuck in a porty
potty with a bloodstain and no toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So Andy, what do your parents think of Mava Jina said.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, it probably goes without saying that they aren't going
to write about it in the annual Christmas letter, but
they are proud of us for winning the contest. And
my kids they feel similar to my parents. They're proud
of us, but they probably wish the topic was about gardening.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
What about you? What is your family thinking?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
My husband, my kids, and my mom are not surprised
by the topic.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I don't think anyone who knows you would be surprised
that this would be something you would be doing.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Absolutely, that's just how it goes. My daughter is a
little embarrassed. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I try to get her to listen, and she did
listen and will not give me any feedback whatsoever, just
as yes, I listen. Her friends are super excited and
can't wait to hear the show. I also have my
brother in law who is completely appalled and cannot understand
why we would need to talk about this subject and
(09:04):
his wife is one thousand percent on board and loves
it and cannot wait to hear the show. Andy, How
did you first learn about your vagina?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
A couple different sources.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I would say one of the most traumatic ones was
the PTO sex class my mom took me to.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Traumatic.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was outside of school, and it was at a
different school's library. And we go up and there is
my mom and all my classmates with their parents, and
we're all sitting around the library together, and they're throwing
up diagrams of penises on the projector and I wanted
(09:45):
to die.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And I was so embarrassed that my friend's parents knew.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now that I knew what the penis diagram looked like,
the whole thing was just a mess.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You were embarrassed about the penis diagram.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh, Mike, I was embarrassed the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I remember just walking in being embarrassed that I was
being dragged or even started.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, did they talk about sex.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I remember more of the anatomy type stuff, but I
do think they talked about sex. They did separate the
parents from the kids, and I think that's when they
did talk about it. And I was also humiliated because
I thought, my mom knows I'm over here getting a
sex talk.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So it was it was the pits.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And then I want to say, my second great source
was the tampon pamphlet in the tampon box.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I think that was a good source for all of us.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and that was one that I studied religiously.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
How about you, When did you first learn about your badge?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I say, I first started paying attention to my badge
when I was about sixteen. I had started douching too frequently.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I cannot believe you douched at sixteen.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, it's what everyone in my environment was doing.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Do you think your mom and grandmother would douche it?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I do. I think everyone was doing it at the time.
So I was doing it too frequently. I was doing
it about three times a week. So I would shower
and then I would doush.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I've never douched. How do you do it?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, it's a bottle with a nozzle with holes in it,
and you stick it inside and you squirt and it
cleanses you out. It's vinegar and water, and so.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Douche is really just the bottle, Like if you buy it,
you're just buying the bottle.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's a bottle. Yeah, you do buy it already mixed up.
I had read somewhere that they also can have like
iodine and other stuff and other chemicals and things like that. Okay,
but I think the ones that I was using were
mostly just vinegar and water.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But in any case, what happened was they gave me
a massive use infection. So I went to the doctor
and she says, you are not to douche. You do
not need to douche. Your body cleans itself naturally. So
after that, that's when I really started paying attention to
what my vagina was talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Did you ever have the sex class in school?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I probably did, I just don't remember it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh I remember ours, and it was in sixth grade again,
and they separated the boys from the girls, and we
had a nurse and they it was an open question
and answer session at the end of the I don't know,
talk or whatever, and all my friends in the class
were asking me to ask the nurse questions because they
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were too embarrassed to which is.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Why we're here today.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We have a speak. Yeah, I was the speaker.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Oh my gosh, I've just seen the correlation with that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I am fast forward thirty years and here your
vagina and you were the speaker for the whole six
graden class. Well, anyway, so I'm asking all these questions
about periods and pads and tampons and wings.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Come to find out, Mike.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Twining, I can't believe you said name.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Mike Whining came was recording excuse me, was recording the
entire session in his desk, and I was freaked out.
So I went to the teacher and I told her
about it, and you know, she took the recorder away,
and then for the rest of the school year, Mike
Twining and all his friends called me nark.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I didn't even know what it meant. So sad my friend,
Casey Nark's friend.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, it was said some harsh ripples, terrible.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You should have let him listen to it. He probably
thought he was gonna hear about titties, and all you
would have heard about was pads and wings.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I know you're right, and obviously probably wouldn't have even
it would have been so muffled. But at the time,
I just I was picturing perfect clarity to my voice.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh that does sound super embarrassing. I'm sorry you went
through that, nark. Okay, that was a great story, and
thanks for sharing.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Again, I'm reliving the aliation.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm so sorry. Well, in that case, let's just take
a quick break and pay some bills. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Stick with us, you have a lot more to discuss, all.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right, Welcome back. So Andy, how did your parents teach
you about sex growing up?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I grew up with a dad who was a former hippie,
and people just walked around naked in my house really yeah,
and until it got to the point where it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So I've always been comfortable with my body.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
But I was always taught abstinence, and in fact, I
ended up signing.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
A declaration to be a virgin until marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
No way I did.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I went to a Christian conference in Florida.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I have later found out listening to other podcasts that
it was this purity movement that I was cut up
in the night.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But I was that your parents were really trying.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, So we went to this conference and I just
remember there was this whole praise and worship session and
then a speaker and at the end we were asked
to come up and grab this index card, plunging our virginity.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Did you get a purity ring?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh, just just a little three by five maybe like
index cards.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do you still have the index card?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But there were thousands of people in line, so I
got in line, I got my card, and I don't know,
it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It felt like I was supposed to be feel.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Shameful of my body, feel like I was carrying around
this thing with me that could lead me to sin,
and I don't know, I just didn't feel like my
body really belonged to me necessarily.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Kind of just just like it was a no no
to ever engage in secs, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Or to even think about it outside of marriage would
be you know, sin.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah? Yeah, what about you? What was your upbringing?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Mine was quite opposite. Actually, yes, my mother did walk
around naked, but she was not a hippie. She just
is very very open. Yeah. Like I remember when I
was about fourteen, I'm sitting at the breakfast table having
breakfast and she comes out completely naked as usual, sits
(16:26):
down and says, oh my god, he tore me up
last night. I am appalled. And actually I'm pretty used
to this at this point, and I'm just like, I
don't care, go put a robe on. You know who cares?
Just please stop being naked. So, in any case, sex
was not a quiet or shameful thing in my upbringing.
(16:50):
We just kind of talked about it. I learned. I
learned that it is fun and something to be enjoyed.
Needless to say, there's not anything I can and talk
to my mom about, right right, And she's still pretty
much the same kind of explicit. Yeah, oh yeah, she
tells me way too much.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
All right. So we both are at the stage in
life where.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
We have daughters, teenage daughters.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, so what do you want her to know about
her vagina that you didn't?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Uh, there's a lot. There's a lot that I didn't know,
and a lot that I still don't know. I really
want her to talk to me like my boys did.
Like my boys would tell me anything stuff I honestly
did not want to hear. Yeah right. They were very
open with me, and she's not. She doesn't really like
to open up to me. So I'm trying to get
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her to open up to me. I'm trying to censor
myself and not be as explicit as my mother, but
I am still trying to be completely open with her.
I want her to come to me if she ever
has any concerns or questions. And I want her to
know her body, to know when something's off, because even
though we don't know exactly what's going on with our bodies,
(18:03):
we know when it's not right.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, we do know that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think overall, I just want to train myself to
be more open about my body and what's going on
with my daughter and my boys. And I want her
to feel like she can come to me and talk
to me and ask questions and say the embarrassing things
and know that I'm not going to walk away from
that conversation or that I can't share in her stories too.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Absolutely, we want them to know that we are here
for them and that we've probably been through what they're
going through.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Overall, I just want to train myself to being more
open about my body to my daughter. It took me
forever to bring up the topic of periods with her.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm not sure why.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think you had to give me, I don't know,
six eight pep toms leading up to that conversation. And
finally I remember it happened in a dressing room and
she saw a tamp on in my purse and she
asked what it was, and I was like, here's my moment,
and I just kind of said it all. And then
two days later, one of the kids needed a tissue
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in the backseat of the car, one of the boys,
and I handed them a pantyliner.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Okay, So I went from like not knowing how to.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Do it to like handing them pantingliners in the car.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And obviously when you have a show called My Vagina
said what, it kind of breaks down those barriers for
those conversations.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And hopefully this will open it up for your family
as well.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh yeah, I'm hoping that this will definitely make communicating
with my daughter a little easier. And she likes the show.
So again, no comments from her other than it's okay, mom.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We want to hear from you. What should we be discussing.
What concerns do you have? What questions? What weird things
are happening in your body? It's likely that they're happ
to us too.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, what weird thing has happened that you can't wait
to tell someone else about, but you don't know who
to talk to? Talk to us? That's nuts all right, well,
thank you for listening to what our vaginas are saying.
For questions, comments, or to let us know what your
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Speaker 2 (20:29):
Our vagina knowledge is based solely on our experience as
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Speaker 3 (20:34):
Please see your doctor if you have any concerns about
your vagina.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
What
Hi, I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Andy and this is my vagina said why. It's episode one.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We did it. We won win or Win a chicken dinner.
So we entered and won a contest the search for
the next great female podcasters from Esenica Women, iHeart and Tango.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It is still so surreal. So thanks for being with us.
This is our podcast. It's a conversation about women's bodies
and it's a place for us to share our stories.
And we are here for it all all the gross,
the weird, the embarrassing. We want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Every week we will be discussing what our vaginas are
saying to us, what your vaginas are saying to you,
and we will figure this shit out together or not
or not. And when we say vaginas, we don't mean
the anatomy. That is something we will definitely discuss in
another episode.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
We mean for that one good, We mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The essence of a woman's body. The vagina is our womanhood.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That feels very spiritual.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All good, It is spiritual. My vagina is very spiritual.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Mine is not.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, So before we get started, let's demonstrate a little
bit of credibility for our listeners. Andy, where do you
think our vagina authority comes from?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
First love that hard hitting sixty minute style question, Chris,
uh huh, And I did know you were going to
ask me this, so I thought about it in the
shower today. And I think that our credibility, the everyday
vagina comes from us sharing our stories, and it comes
(01:57):
from us asking questions, and it from not making things
so weird or feel like our bodies are falling out.
Do you remember the first time you had a blood
clot in the shower? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, I mean what did you do?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh? I picked it up and expected it. I wanted
to know what it was.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It was terrifying, it was it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And hopefully our daughters will now know right that happens
and you can squish that down.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
With your big toe or your fingers or your fingers.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And plus, I just feel like I trust you, I
trust myself. I trust women's instincts more than I trust
doctors and Google.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh yeah, a women's intuition is real. I truly believe
that because back in the day, in the caveman times,
men would hunt and their natural instincts were cued in
for that we did not have to hunt. We still
had our cycles back then, and we still have our
cycles now. So therefore we still have our natural instincts
(03:05):
because we still cycle every month, and men they don't.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
What is some deep ass vagina shit? Chris? I like that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Plus, I was calculating together, you and I have over
ninety years of vagina experience together. Yeah, and so I
feel like our experience and our listeners experience all of
us together, we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And we're gonna share our stories together and learn from
each other.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Absolutely, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Where do you think our vagina authority comes from?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I don't know. Vagina and body talk have never been
a private subject to me. All I need is like
a receptive person to talk to, and then I'll end
up having a conversation about what most people find embarrassing
or private. And honestly, most of the women that I
know talk to me openly about their vaginas and their bodies.
I think I just give off this. You can talk
(04:03):
to me about anything, let's discuss it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Vibe you do, and you've always.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Been down to talk about the dirty stuff with me. True,
you talk to me about stuff that you wouldn't talk
to your mom.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
About very true. So do you remember how we met?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't I do.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We were working at a radio station. You were in marketing,
I was in sales, and I remember walking into your
office and I saw you standing up with your arms
on the top of a filing cabinet, leg spread open,
doing a full on reenactment of the birth of your
(04:40):
second son. Oh yeah, in front of a great group
of people. And I was so impressed with that, and
I just fell in love with you right away.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I don't exactly remember how we met. I just remember
meeting you and thinking she's so sweet and delicate. She's
got this sweet little voice. And then out wilcome these
trucker sounds. You would lugi, you would fur fart, wait
time out. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
In my defense, I have a deviated septum. I'm so
sorry and allergies.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I'm sorry about your deviated But what is your excuse
for all the farting that you do? I don't know.
I don't know. Farting is like my kryptonite. It's just
something I can't stand. And to be honest with you,
you and my husband are the only people that fart
around me where I don't get an attitude because it's
just it's expected, it's what you do.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I just have always liked potty humor, So I think
it goes back to that. When I was a kid,
I had a friend over. We were eating dinner in
the kitchen and I farted at the dinner table and
my mom sent.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Me to eat in the basement. Well, my friend Laura
had to sit any dinner with my family.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No parting at the dinner table is a definite no no.
And I also remember we bonded over what terrible drivers
we both are.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, you're worse than me though.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, you're still a bad driver. It doesn't matter who's worse.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's true, I am a terrible driver.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We actually have matching dents in our bumpers.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Mine is more like a hole with now white duct
tape over it, and yours is a big dent. Oh yes,
they are on our Instagram page.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Go check it out.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes, there, I have a big done. And actually that's
like the third accident that I've had that has been
all my fault.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, I've had several my fault as well. No shame
in that you're still.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Worse than me. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm a bad driver. Sue me.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So truly.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Ever since we met twenty one years ago, no topic
has been off the table, and over the course of
our friendship, we've never lived more than twenty minutes away
from each other. Still in Harrisburg, PA. We talk on
the phone for hours at a time. We listen to
each other, breathe a lot. We vacation with our families,
(07:06):
and we see each other as often as possible, which
is not easy with eight kids.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Between us, so it's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I also think it's an important flex to share that
I know your ovulation schedule better than you, or at
least I have in the past.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Absolutely, I think that's a great flex. You would check
in with me when I was ovulating and we would
discuss how stretchy my discharge needed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Oh my gosh, point your finger.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
To some Yes. Absolutely, and it really helped with the
disappointment and stress of the fertility treatments, just having you
always check in on me. You don't know how much
I relied on you for that support. It was so
much harder than I thought it was going to be,
and we would chat and laugh about the gross parts.
I honestly couldn't have survived it without you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, you are my person too, You who are who
I think of first when I'm stuck in a porty
potty with a bloodstain and no toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So Andy, what do your parents think of Mava Jina said.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, it probably goes without saying that they aren't going
to write about it in the annual Christmas letter, but
they are proud of us for winning the contest. And
my kids they feel similar to my parents. They're proud
of us, but they probably wish the topic was about gardening.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
What about you? What is your family thinking?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
My husband, my kids, and my mom are not surprised
by the topic.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I don't think anyone who knows you would be surprised
that this would be something you would be doing.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Absolutely, that's just how it goes. My daughter is a
little embarrassed. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I try to get her to listen, and she did
listen and will not give me any feedback whatsoever, just
as yes, I listen. Her friends are super excited and
can't wait to hear the show. I also have my
brother in law who is completely appalled and cannot understand
why we would need to talk about this subject and
(09:04):
his wife is one thousand percent on board and loves
it and cannot wait to hear the show. Andy, How
did you first learn about your vagina?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
A couple different sources.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I would say one of the most traumatic ones was
the PTO sex class my mom took me to.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Traumatic.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It was outside of school, and it was at a
different school's library. And we go up and there is
my mom and all my classmates with their parents, and
we're all sitting around the library together, and they're throwing
up diagrams of penises on the projector and I wanted
(09:45):
to die.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And I was so embarrassed that my friend's parents knew.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now that I knew what the penis diagram looked like,
the whole thing was just a mess.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You were embarrassed about the penis diagram.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh, Mike, I was embarrassed the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I remember just walking in being embarrassed that I was
being dragged or even started.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, did they talk about sex.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I remember more of the anatomy type stuff, but I
do think they talked about sex. They did separate the
parents from the kids, and I think that's when they
did talk about it. And I was also humiliated because
I thought, my mom knows I'm over here getting a
sex talk.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So it was it was the pits.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And then I want to say, my second great source
was the tampon pamphlet in the tampon box.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I think that was a good source for all of us.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and that was one that I studied religiously.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
How about you, When did you first learn about your badge?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I say, I first started paying attention to my badge
when I was about sixteen. I had started douching too frequently.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I cannot believe you douched at sixteen.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, it's what everyone in my environment was doing.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Do you think your mom and grandmother would douche it?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I do. I think everyone was doing it at the time.
So I was doing it too frequently. I was doing
it about three times a week. So I would shower
and then I would doush.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I've never douched. How do you do it?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, it's a bottle with a nozzle with holes in it,
and you stick it inside and you squirt and it
cleanses you out. It's vinegar and water, and so.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Douche is really just the bottle, Like if you buy it,
you're just buying the bottle.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's a bottle. Yeah, you do buy it already mixed up.
I had read somewhere that they also can have like
iodine and other stuff and other chemicals and things like that. Okay,
but I think the ones that I was using were
mostly just vinegar and water.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But in any case, what happened was they gave me
a massive use infection. So I went to the doctor
and she says, you are not to douche. You do
not need to douche. Your body cleans itself naturally. So
after that, that's when I really started paying attention to
what my vagina was talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Did you ever have the sex class in school?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I probably did, I just don't remember it.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh I remember ours, and it was in sixth grade again,
and they separated the boys from the girls, and we
had a nurse and they it was an open question
and answer session at the end of the I don't know,
talk or whatever, and all my friends in the class
were asking me to ask the nurse questions because they
(12:31):
were too embarrassed to which is.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Why we're here today.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We have a speak. Yeah, I was the speaker.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Oh my gosh, I've just seen the correlation with that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I am fast forward thirty years and here your
vagina and you were the speaker for the whole six
graden class. Well, anyway, so I'm asking all these questions
about periods and pads and tampons and wings.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Come to find out, Mike.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Twining, I can't believe you said name.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Mike Whining came was recording excuse me, was recording the
entire session in his desk, and I was freaked out.
So I went to the teacher and I told her
about it, and you know, she took the recorder away,
and then for the rest of the school year, Mike
Twining and all his friends called me nark.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I didn't even know what it meant. So sad my friend,
Casey Nark's friend.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, it was said some harsh ripples, terrible.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You should have let him listen to it. He probably
thought he was gonna hear about titties, and all you
would have heard about was pads and wings.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I know you're right, and obviously probably wouldn't have even
it would have been so muffled. But at the time,
I just I was picturing perfect clarity to my voice.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh that does sound super embarrassing. I'm sorry you went
through that, nark. Okay, that was a great story, and
thanks for sharing.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Again, I'm reliving the aliation.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm so sorry. Well, in that case, let's just take
a quick break and pay some bills. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Stick with us, you have a lot more to discuss, all.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Right, Welcome back. So Andy, how did your parents teach
you about sex growing up?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I grew up with a dad who was a former hippie,
and people just walked around naked in my house really yeah,
and until it got to the point where it was uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So I've always been comfortable with my body.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
But I was always taught abstinence, and in fact, I
ended up signing.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
A declaration to be a virgin until marriage.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
No way I did.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I went to a Christian conference in Florida.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I have later found out listening to other podcasts that
it was this purity movement that I was cut up
in the night.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But I was that your parents were really trying.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, So we went to this conference and I just
remember there was this whole praise and worship session and
then a speaker and at the end we were asked
to come up and grab this index card, plunging our virginity.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Did you get a purity ring?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh, just just a little three by five maybe like
index cards.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do you still have the index card?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But there were thousands of people in line, so I
got in line, I got my card, and I don't know,
it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It felt like I was supposed to be feel.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Shameful of my body, feel like I was carrying around
this thing with me that could lead me to sin,
and I don't know, I just didn't feel like my
body really belonged to me necessarily.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Kind of just just like it was a no no
to ever engage in secs, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Or to even think about it outside of marriage would
be you know, sin.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah? Yeah, what about you? What was your upbringing?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Mine was quite opposite. Actually, yes, my mother did walk
around naked, but she was not a hippie. She just
is very very open. Yeah. Like I remember when I
was about fourteen, I'm sitting at the breakfast table having
breakfast and she comes out completely naked as usual, sits
(16:26):
down and says, oh my god, he tore me up
last night. I am appalled. And actually I'm pretty used
to this at this point, and I'm just like, I
don't care, go put a robe on. You know who cares?
Just please stop being naked. So, in any case, sex
was not a quiet or shameful thing in my upbringing.
(16:50):
We just kind of talked about it. I learned. I
learned that it is fun and something to be enjoyed.
Needless to say, there's not anything I can and talk
to my mom about, right right, And she's still pretty
much the same kind of explicit. Yeah, oh yeah, she
tells me way too much.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
All right. So we both are at the stage in
life where.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
We have daughters, teenage daughters.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, so what do you want her to know about
her vagina that you didn't?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Uh, there's a lot. There's a lot that I didn't know,
and a lot that I still don't know. I really
want her to talk to me like my boys did.
Like my boys would tell me anything stuff I honestly
did not want to hear. Yeah right. They were very
open with me, and she's not. She doesn't really like
to open up to me. So I'm trying to get
(17:42):
her to open up to me. I'm trying to censor
myself and not be as explicit as my mother, but
I am still trying to be completely open with her.
I want her to come to me if she ever
has any concerns or questions. And I want her to
know her body, to know when something's off, because even
though we don't know exactly what's going on with our bodies,
(18:03):
we know when it's not right.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, we do know that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think overall, I just want to train myself to
be more open about my body and what's going on
with my daughter and my boys. And I want her
to feel like she can come to me and talk
to me and ask questions and say the embarrassing things
and know that I'm not going to walk away from
that conversation or that I can't share in her stories too.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Absolutely, we want them to know that we are here
for them and that we've probably been through what they're
going through.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Overall, I just want to train myself to being more
open about my body to my daughter. It took me
forever to bring up the topic of periods with her.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm not sure why.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think you had to give me, I don't know,
six eight pep toms leading up to that conversation. And
finally I remember it happened in a dressing room and
she saw a tamp on in my purse and she
asked what it was, and I was like, here's my moment,
and I just kind of said it all. And then
two days later, one of the kids needed a tissue
(19:09):
in the backseat of the car, one of the boys,
and I handed them a pantyliner.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Okay, So I went from like not knowing how to.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Do it to like handing them pantingliners in the car.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And obviously when you have a show called My Vagina
said what, it kind of breaks down those barriers for
those conversations.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And hopefully this will open it up for your family
as well.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh yeah, I'm hoping that this will definitely make communicating
with my daughter a little easier. And she likes the show.
So again, no comments from her other than it's okay, mom.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We want to hear from you. What should we be discussing.
What concerns do you have? What questions? What weird things
are happening in your body? It's likely that they're happ
to us too.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, what weird thing has happened that you can't wait
to tell someone else about, but you don't know who
to talk to? Talk to us? That's nuts all right, well,
thank you for listening to what our vaginas are saying.
For questions, comments, or to let us know what your
vagina is saying, email us at My Vagina Said What
at gmail dot com DM and follow us on Instagram
(20:21):
at hashtag my vagina Said What. Listen, subscribe and rate
us on Seneca Women, iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Our vagina knowledge is based solely on our experience as
vagina owners.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Please see your doctor if you have any concerns about
your vagina.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
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