February 6, 2023 • 49 mins
What's happening in the NBA? Chris Haynes joins the podcast to discuss trades in the league just before the deadline and more specifically where Kyrie Irving is going and why he requested the trade.
Between the time we recorded this episode and it’s publishing date; Irving announced his decision to play for the Dallas Mavericks. Listen to find out why he is worth the trade!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wouldn't need another day or two that just like
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check in with these teams to see, like how serious
this is, how close it is before I determine if
I think the Lakers have a pay a shot of
getting Kyrie. I know they have a shot because they've
been talking for you know, ever since June of last year.
I would just say things like, if you're a Laker fan,
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I would just say, this is this latest development that
Kyrie has done a requesting trade. I would say it's
definitely good news for the Lakers, but I just don't
know how close that it is right now, now, right now. Okay,
So according to Chris Hayes, the Lakers have enough to
get Kyrie Irving. Can we get it done? And by we,
I mean me as if I'm in the front office
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with the Los Angeles Lakers and I am not um.
Sit back, relax. It is an inside the NBA trade
deadline addition of naked gotta pay some bills will be
back in just a few moments. It's the greatest. And
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then the taming can make your Cheppion. They carry chappion
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Cheppion Chappi and they carry Chappi and they carry Chappi. Hey, everybody,
welcome to the Carrey Champion Show. This is an emergency podcast.
I repeat an emergency pod, breaking news, breaking news. It
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is Friday as we record this, so by the time
you hear this on Monday, things could have changed. But
I'm going to try to keep it as a loose
as possible so you guys can understand what's happening in
the NBA contextually. Friday morning, I wake up, I get
a call from my producer. She's like, are we recording today?
I was like, yeah, I've reached out to a friend.
I'll see what happens. My friend is Chris Haynes. He
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is UM a sideline reporter for T n T. He's
an NBA insider. I worked with him at ESPN. You've
seen him before, You've read his work. He was at
Yahoo Sporting. Now he is at T and T and
Bleacher Report. He also most recently came out with a
new podcast. We'll get into that in just a second.
But I called him just to talk about the trade deadline. Um,
there are all these reports of what my favorite team
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was going to do. You guys know, I love the Lakers,
so I wanted him to break it all down. However,
in the midst of him between him confirming that he
do the podcast and US actually recording one, Kyrie Irving
requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. It sent the
internet ablaze. It sent the NBA world ablaze. It was
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a non non non issue for so many people, um
and excuse me check that it was a huge issue
for so many people, um and including the Lakers, because
the Lakers are looking for a really bipowered player. We
need a shooter. The messages won a championship. Now when
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it now. As you will know, Kyrie and Lebron lay
together in Cleveland. As you will know, Kyrie did not,
at the very end enjoy playing with Lebron. Kyrie then
goes to Boston, didn't work out there. He goes to Brooklyn.
They were in the news every other day, starting with
the vaccine because Kyrie didn't want to good a vaccine.
He held out. After that, he had been posting some
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issues in regards to Jewish people and black people being
the true. I look, I don't even know what he
was posting. If I'm being honest, I read it. I
can't even digest it. But all I know is that
Jewish people were offended, and he ended up getting suspended
by the Brooklyn Nets, and he had to do a
series of apologies that I felt, at one point got
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to be ridiculous. Yes, he should have apologized once because
he was so dug in he had posted something that
was factually incorrect and quite frankly offensive, I understand. To
Jewish people. However, however, he had apologized and it should
have been done, but they made him apologize over and
over again, and my my thought process changed. I was like,
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you know what, I'm riding with, Kyrie. Now you made
this black man apologize, and now you're trying to take
his dignity away. Initially I thought, Kyrie, if you don't
know what you're posting, perhaps you shouldn't post it, or
you don't have to post something to show what you're
learning if you really don't know the origins of it
are or what it's about. It was a movie that
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you can steel friend on Amazon, by the way, about
black Israelites, and I don't know much of the particulars.
I do know that I did not agree with all
of the content that that was being passed around regarding
said movie, and when Kyrie was asked about it, he
was very defiant, like, come on, I'm not promoting anything.
Leave me alone. I could post what I want to post.
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So in real time, Kyrie learned that the very same
people who loved you when you did not want to
get a vaccine. And by those people, I mean there
were a lot of folks calling him a hero who
didn't look like us. They were protesting outside of um
Barclay saying we love Kyrie who because he didn't want
to get a vaccine, and we love Kyrie and he's
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this and he's that. Those same people were also protesting
after he made that post that made so many people upset,
saying they want Kyrie out of the Barclays, they want
him out of Brooklyn. They didn't want him to be
a player anymore. And he went from loved to hate it.
He went from the guy who really was a hero.
You know, I remember politicians, in particular Republican politicians were
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calling him a hero because he didn't want to get
the vaccine to being called names by those same Republican politicians. Right,
it's quick. Life comes at you fast. But so many
people started to change their mind because we did not
and by so many people, I mean the black folks
me culturally, we didn't like the way that they were
the appearance of a black man apologizing over and over
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and over and over and over and over again. He
said sorry, Okay, will say another sorry. Right now. He
has to meet a list of obligations. Come on, man,
let's get back to the business of basketball. This is
getting out of him. Since then, he's been quiet. He
paid for his punishment in the sense of he was fined,
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he apologized, he had to sit out, he did what
he had to do, He did all the work. He
then comes out last week, as we find out, and
he says, guess what, I still want an extension here. So,
of course, fast forward to today, present day Friday, when
the news breaks that he wants out. He's requested a
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trade and if he doesn't get traded before the deadline
of February nine, he's leaving. During free agency, we were like, wait, ha, ha,
what happened. I'm gonna tell you what happened. We're able
to call my guy, Chris Haynes in as I talked
about NBA Insider, He's talked to the Kyrie camp He's
had conversations with the Lakers front office. He knows what
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these teams are trying to do. This is the frenzied
time of year where people are trying to figure out
who will go where, and Kyrie has put his name
into this trade deadline and he is a big fish.
There were no big fish requesting trades. We haven't seen
something like this in a minute. The last time we
had this frenzied type of atmosphere was when we were
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trying to figure out in my mind where Lebron was going,
which I knew was in l A But whatever, It's
a frenzied atmosphere. What's going to happen Kevin Durant sweepstakes?
Where's Kevin Durant gonna go? Is he staying with the
Warriors or he's going elsewhere? Frenzied behavior, and that's what
you're feeling right now. It's palpable. Where will Kyrie go?
True enough, by the time this podcast airs on Monday,
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Kyrie could be a Laker or he could still be
with the Brooklyn Nets with the pending trade happening again.
The deadline is next Thursday, y'all. So by the time
you're listening to this. If Kyrie hasn't made up his mind,
we still got three or four days to twist and
the wind to find now if he will be dealt
by the Brooklyn Nets. As you will hear on this podcast,
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here are the following things that you will hear. You
will hear why it makes sense for him to be
a Laker, or if in fact the Lakers have enough
to get Kyrie in terms of assets to get Kyrie.
He will hear how we got to this point, How
we landed on Kyrie just last week saying he wants
to stay in Brooklyn now requesting a trade. How do
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we get here. We don't get into the history of
his up and down relationship, the emotional highs and lows
that he's had with this organization. But we do get
into um the fact that Kyrie is mercurial. I hear
people saying he's toxic. I hear people saying, I wouldn't
want to mow my team. All of you people are ridiculous.
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That means you people don't want to win a chip.
That's what that means. Kyrie um has had a relationship
with Lebron. We get into that, We get into the
fact that. Kyrie has also said he was young when
he wanted out of Cleveland and if he had to
do it over again, he would mind playing with the
Brown again. All of this makes sense. We get into
all of the particulars um I. Also, if you're a
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Clippers fan, you don't want to hear this because I'm
trash talking to Clippers up and down. I have a
theory about them and you can enjoy that. If you're
a Laker fan, this might be just a Laker pod
for Laker podded episode uh for today. So sit back, relax,
get the education, start the debate. Where will Kyrie Irving Land?
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Here is Chris Haynes with his insider information. Hope you
all enjoy this edition of Naked You guys, we have
a special, a special guest on the show. Um as
we as we tried to basically say, hey, can you
come on the show, and as we as in me,
Chris Haynes does us a solid and says yes, that's
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early this morning on Friday. Little do we know, a
few hours after our conversation, Kyrie with set the trade
deadline World on fire. You know, Chris Haynes, I will
work with him at ESPN. He's now at t n
T and Bleacher Report. Uh, he's an NBA insider, a
senior reporter on the sidelines for t NT. He knows all.
So talk to me about NBA trade deadline. I was
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just asking for the landscape. But now that we know,
as of this morning or this afternoon, wherever you live,
Kyrie requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. What does
that mean for the NBA trade deadline and free agency? Well, ultimately,
now he's the top dog um in the trade deadline,
you know, stratosphere. Right now, he's going to be the dovadog. Uh.
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Obviously there's a lot that goes with acquiring or even
you know, inquiring about Kyrie Irvin. But he's a dynamic talent.
And lets let me give you some backgrowl if I
could always Kyria and how we got here. So last
week I reported and I had a story with Setilia Irvin,
who is kyrie stepmother, and but she also she also
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serves as his agent. So she went on the record
with me last week stating how she would like to
get an extension done, how Kyrie wants to be a
member of the Brooklyn Nets for the long term and
as she said, the ball is in the next court.
To get something done, get something reasonable done, reasonably done.
And so up until that point, the Nets were hesitant
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on talking or even offering any type of an extension.
So since she went public with me on that last week,
over the last few days, they started to engage and
the Nets changed with an offer. But and I and
I just reported this recently, but the offer that they
came with was a contract that was tied to the
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Nets winning the championship, and Kyrie and his camp felt
so insulted by that where that's what led to him
requesting the trade. And um I was told that even
if the Nets changed us right now and offered a
full max max slot salary, he would return it down.
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He wants out. It's got that serious. And this was
something that we've seen coming. I thought, I thought it
would be a couple more days until we got to
this point. I didn't think it would be today. But
you kind of saw the writing on the wall when
she when she came out publicly last week and said,
the ball is in the next court. And so this
is where we this is where we are now. Well,
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we're at six days before the trade deadline. Six days
before the trade deadline, Kyrie Irving says, I want to
be traded from the Brooklyn Nets. According to Chris Haynes
um NBA Insider, the situation is really simple, folks. Uh,
Kyrie was not liking what, in fact Brooklyn was offering
in terms of an extension which was tied to a championship.
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That felt insulting. Why would that based on what you
know when you're reporting, why would that feel insulting to Kyrie? Well,
listen that that is first of all, I mean it's
in the center base contract, which means that a certain
amount of his salary was what's going to be guaranteed
if they want a championship. And so for a player
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of Kyrie's Klumburg, you know, he's a you know, when
all things being said, if everything is equal, you know,
he's a he's a max player. You know, he's one
of the top fifteen players we have in this league.
And yes, you know, Kyrie has done some things and
saying some things that has got them in trouble throughout
his career. But he felt like, you know, especially at
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this time, you know, let's let's talk about why. Now, obviously,
the trade of thatline of February night, but time and
Kevin Durant has been out. And so while Kevin Durant
has been out, Kyrie Irvan has had to shoulder the
low offensively. And so it's it's Tavi came in. It
told him his body. You don't know when Katie is
going to come back, and so that the nets are
asking a lot of him, and so in return, you know,
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Kyrie has been a model citizen ever since he came
back from that suspension, and you know he wants security.
He's putting his body on the line. The Nests are
asking more of him because he's the top dog with
Katie being out, so he wants some security. So you know,
you really don't hear about instead of based contracts by
two players of his caliber. But again, if you're looking
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after the Nest standpoint, you will understand how to why
they're taking that type of approach. But I to a
championship where a bulk of his salary is guarantee if
they win a championship. That pretty much is unheard of
for a player of his caliber. Okay, fair, Now, on
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the other hand, this is what you're going to hear
in correct me, if I'm wrong. They offer James hard
and Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving extensions and the only
person who took it was Katie. He asked her, no, yes,
Katie took it. Correct for your extension. Believe so now
he we are, James Harden is no longer there. They
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have had their issues with Kyrie. Well reported. He's put
his head down and did his job. He said he
wanted to stay there, but now he feels away. Enough
is enough? Is this all a part of the what
I thought was okay, yes, apologized and then apologize again,
and then apologize some more. But then now and then
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now it's like, and then guess what if you do
want to stay here? Here are some other things? Is
this Kyrie is basically saying, after it's all said and done,
I apologize. I did all the things and at all
the requirements. Uh. Those are two different issues in my opinion,
but they're starting to be complated, and he's just tired
of bending over backwards to please an organization when he
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knows he's a max player. Is that what we're dealing
with here in your opinion? No, I definitely think you
could say that. I mean, I just think you know,
he ultimately felt insulted. You know, he he wanted to
get an extension done. He wants to stay with the
Brooklyn Nets and so and he's been up again a
model citizen for the Brooklyn Nets since returning, and he's
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being asked to shoulder a load, a heavy load with
KD being out, and all he's asking for is security.
And again I'm not I'm not coming here acting like
I don't understand where the brooklyn Nets are coming from.
But when when you start to talk about, you know,
being tied to a championship where money is guaranteed if
you win a title, that's that's unheard of for a
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players caliber. So yes, I mean, and it's hard not
to look at everything that he has been through with
the Brooklyn Nets and and a lot of a lot
of it is warranted, you know, based off of the
things that he's done. But you know, it's hard to
not think about everything in his totality and come to
the conclusion that, man, all this is building up and
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this is just one more thing that Kyyrie shows like
he has to deal with and he wants out. And
just the fact that he's telling and that that has
that even if you don't Um out door free agency,
he wants out. That's that's showing you, like how adamant
he needs about this. He's just done now. Critics will
say Kyrie Um is a player that you can't really
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count on his last few teams, he has stayed no
more than a season. This might be a season or two. Right?
Is that fair? He was in Boston, I went out,
comes to Brooklyn. It's great quiet, they do what they
can do. A lot of drama, he asked out. He
wants in. It's been it seems as if he seems
like a fickle player. How could an organization and and
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no organization in particular, but how can an organization invest
in him? High risk, high reward player It appears to be. Yeah,
I mean that's that is that is a tough conundrum.
And and this is you know, this is what Kyrie
finds himself in. And you know, just look at his
track record, looking at his history, and it seems like
these things continue to repeat themselves. But what I will
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say is that those things are you know, all of
his past transgressions, they've caused him to caused him to
be a player where a handful of teams are interested,
opposed to the entire league, and a player of his caliber,
the entire league is supposed to be calling, banging at
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the Brooklynness door, trying to see if they can get
in the mix. And it's a handful of teams and so,
but all you need is one team, you know, all
you need is one team to pull the trigger to
give you the type of deal or give you a
type of role that you need. And the good thing
about it for Kyrie, the teams that are calling, our
teams that are trying to win the championship. These aren't
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bottom feeder teams. These are teams that have good structure,
a good foundation, and so he would he would they
look at him as being a missing piece, and so
it's a good situation to be in. But yes, you know,
if this was any other star player that that does
this without you know, the ask transgressions they're they're getting,
They're getting calls from everybody bought it around the league
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opposed to a half full Yeah. Okay, So we have
a few teams that are who really want Kyrie, are
willing to do the high risk for high reward because
they want to win. Now, they don't want to win yesterday.
What is Kyrie looking for? Is he looking what type
of deal would he take at this moment? Is he
desperate just to gett out or does he want his
money and his years? Well, you know, I couldn't say,
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you know, I couldn't say money is not an issue
at all, But definitely he wants he wants security. I
don't I don't think he didn't want to play out.
He didn't want to play out this year, um just
not knowing hit his his financial status, especially with the
Brooklyn Nets. But what he wants? You know, I think
what a lot of these teams have to offer a structure.
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I mean he touched on the Kerry. These are three
superstar players the last few years who have requested a
trade out of the Brooklyn Nets. You know, Katy resented
that trade in the off season, came back, but now
you know, the domino is gonna victually fall back on him.
What is he going to do? How is he going
to feel the brook of Let's have them locked up
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for another three years. But it's this is gonna be
a domino effect right here. And I think I think
with these teams, Kyris is looking for structure, a sound foundation,
and he's going to have that with these other teams.
I will be very surprised if she Kyrie is still
a member of the next pass to theirline. Okay, we
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gotta pay some bills, as you will know. Fast forward
to hit that button that fifteen fifteen fifteen, uh and
when we come back, Chris Haynes gets into the nit
in the grid of what's going on with Kyrie and
the perklyn Nets. Hope you're in joying this edition of Naked.
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Thank you for sticking with us. This edition of Naked
is really good. We're getting some juicy information and like
I said, the hope is by the time you're listening
to this, something significant has happened for my Lakers. Take
a listen. It's Chris Haynes. Okay, let's go to my
own personal interests and what everyone is talking about. Lebron
sends out a tweet with eyes and and a King hat,
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and I'm like, and I immediately replied, don't play with us.
Don't play with us, because I'll take Kyrie and all
of his issues if that means a chip. I'm that
kind of thing, right, And I do believe the Laker
nation feels that way. Urban Urban Magic Johnson himself, I'd
like to see Kyrie with a Laker. We all would
like to see it. The feasibility of that really happening.
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I don't believe the Lakers have enough assets for the perclonets.
I think they do. I think they do. You know
you have those you have those two first round picks
that they've Yeah, they did not waiver from Alician, not
even one of them. You know, when they were talks
in pressure about going after Indiana's duo of Miles Turner
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and Buddy Hill, they didn't waiver. They kept waiting. I
remember I was talking to brob Pelinka months ago and
he was like, we're waiting for that big fish. We're
waiting for that big fish. I don't think many saw
this coming into this past week, but yeah, they have enough.
I mean it may it may take a third team
to get involved, but I believe they do have enough.
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I mean, the the the value, you know, Kyrie's value
um market value is not what it was, and so
I think the Brooklyn Nets have to get something in
return because the threat of Kyrie saying he's going to
leave in free agency, it's not necessarily a threat um
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to the next that he's going to be gone, but
it's the threat that he can be gone. And they
don't get anything in return, correct, So that's why they
have to take this trade there very seriously, like why
keep him around? And they know how mercurial he is,
and why keep him around if they get nothing in return?
Get whatever you can right now? Who can give me whatever? Now,
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let's talk about the morality of that organization. Would they
not trade him to the Lakership because he wants to
go there? Or do you think they have more incentive
to send him somewhere he wants to go? Well, no,
I don't think they haven't anywhere he has to go.
They have to get the right deal, that's all that matters.
And plus you don't want to see him Kyrie over
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to a team media conference. Sure, you don't want you know,
they don't want to. Yeah, and they've already done that
with Philly and the James had he see Yeah, and
so they I'm trying to do that. Yeah, and I
think he would be sent back west. And that that's why,
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you know, look at the Dallas mavericks Um, you look
at the phoenix size of Los Angeles lers. For sure,
the Lakers have been a team that's been talking with
the brook that that doesn't feel like for about a
year already about this about Kyrie. So it just seems
like this is the closest, the closest we've been chest
seeing the potential, you know, seeing potentially Tyree Dot in
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a liquor's uniform. So here's my thought process. The reason
why they wouldn't want to do it because perhaps in
their mind they don't want to meet him in the finals,
but they would have to beat they'd have to beat
a long way away look at me with Dreamy. But
but that's why, that's why the contract offer being tied
to a chair hap ship. That's why it's so insulting
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because you know, you know, I talked to a lot
of players, you know, in that in that locker room.
They don't believe that right now, how they're a symbol
that they're a championship. You know, there's some pieces that
need to be out Ben Simmons, namely, what's his usual
question mark? Ye, they'd have to get past other teams
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in the East to even get to that level. And
are they better than other teams in the East? Are
they better than the Celtics? Are they better than exactly?
So that's what that's why, that's why it makes it
soul insulting that that the Ads an a layer to it. Okay,
so before Kyrie came in and blew up a free
agency or excuse me, NBAH trade deadline, I would like
to talk about what the Lakers were thinking they were
(25:39):
going to do. What are the reports of this Zach
Levine and sin Lonzo light skin regime? Coming back to
what is the report? I didn't want the light skins,
but I was that a fair deal in your in
your opinion when they were saying this could be what
it looks like? Uh with the team like as constructor
right now? Yeah, with the Lakers, No, So I was
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always told they were going to make a letter move
and the you know what we spt hearing is you
know they're knocking on the Detroit Pistons door about um Bogdanovitch,
you know that sniper shooter, you know parents and with
the Pistons right now, adding a quality shooter is a
premium right now. The Detroit Yeah, we're we're hearing that.
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Then you know they won't let him go for at
least a unprotected first round pick. But the Lakers have
just been trying to hold steady. Rob polgo was called man.
I've talked to pretty much every single Simulinity and Rob
Polikas has called them at least once, just trying to
figure out what they're trying to do. Who's available. So
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he's doing his job. I know Plinkett gets a lot
of flak. People said he's just sitting on and shipping
on his ass, But he's doing his job. I think
right now, you know, I would have thought if this
Kyrie didn't come into play, you know, I think you're
looking at potential Malik Beasley move, you know, bringing it
because they need to shoot Malik Beasley. But Danovitch, you
know guys like that, So I know a guy I
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know players like that probably wouldn't have made the splash
that Laker fans are hoping for. But it definitely would
have been a good complimentary piece. And I like the
addition to I think he's, you know, a really good
key special. I think he could see he can fit
right in. I don't know you, but what I've seen
this car makes sense. We need some we need fundamentals,
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you know what I mean. He's looking good and he's
you need we need some. And I act like I'm
in the front office. I everyone knows I am a
dire like your fan. I do not care. I will
talk about it till I'm blow in the face, but
I am reasonable. I didn't see us doing much, and
I didn't like the struggle against the Knicks, but I
know the Knicks got up to play. Is when I'm like,
this is ridiculous. Whatever is happening out there is ridiculous.
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Um So, so you what you have said twice, maybe
even three times. We don't like Roberlika. He's trending the
other day, but you say he's doing his due diligence.
You believe that he has been doing the work. Yeah
your name, Yeah, yeah, I mean the results that doesn't
always tell the you know, the truth, the whole truth.
You know it takes it always takes two teams to
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get a deal done, but he's definitely Cavis And yeah,
that's why you hear. That's why you hear. You know
a lot of Laker rumors are reports getting out because
you know, he's making a lot of calls and talking
to a lot of people, and so a lot of times,
a lot of teams kind of know a little bit
of what the Lakers are trying to do, and that's
how that stuff leads. Well, then here's my other question,
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because I don't believe everyone's off of him right. The
whole tar the Rosen Russell Westbrook situation just made everybody upset.
It was like, what is going on? How dare you
want to get that? It was? And and and everyone's
like I wanted tomar that was and everyone's blaming Rob.
I don't believe that that it was just Rob's decision.
But I think Rob made a huge mistake and I
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don't Also, I will say this, I don't think Tomorrow
would have played as well home for whatever reasons. I
just don't believe he would have. I think it would
have been a different scenario. Well, who knows, I could
be wrong. Um, I just feel like playing at home.
There are a lot of different things that come into play,
and when you play free, um, it's it's good. And
he fit into assistant that really works for him. I
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think Kyrie has played with Lebron before. He knows what
it comes to, what it takes. I think he appreciates
it more than anybody he ever played with before. I
do believe that after spending his time looking to hang
out with others, he realized, come back home because it
feels good, you know what I mean? Like you, you
don't know what's going, what's missing until it's gone. Right. Then,
what did he say? What did he say? He said
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he made a mistake and requesting to trade out of Cleveland.
He said that he was y'all and he didn't appreciate
what he had at that time. And you know, can
we trust so material? Can we trust that a pot
of some some stage on in crypto because he's mad
at Lebron one day, Like, can't we trust that? I
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want Kyrie, but I don't trust his mood swings. I
don't trust his mood swings that I heal one day
it's like it's a summer soulstice and he doesn't want
to play now. Mind you, this was before I was
talking so bad about him, and I'm standing on the
record on this same very podcast saying I don't want him.
I don't want him. Here here I am a year later,
Like looks good to me, That's all I'm this. Yeah, yeah,
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I'm just as smecial. Yeah. I think you can not
trust them but still want him. And I think that's
a lot of liquor fans find themselves in, Like, IM
don't trust I don't trust Kyrie. Bring him over? Wait
a second, bring him over? Who who's single? Who has
not dealt with that? If not tweeve hours a day,
seven days a week. You're like, trust her, but I'm
a data still her, but I don't trust her? Ask him?
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But yeah, it's the same relationship that he's not. How dude,
you like, you ready to risk it all for but
you know it's gonna be a disaster, but you're still
gonna do it. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but it
makes complete sense, okay in your opinion, And not that
you can predict or that you know, But do you
think the Lakers in and the next can get a
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deal done? And Russell goes over there and plays and
reunites with Russell, plays with Kevin Durant. They hate each other,
So there's that doesn't even seem like a feasibility right there.
Not friends anymore. I think they know they're they're cool.
I think they can I think they can't say it
together like God, sure I would need I wouldn't need
another day or tune that, just like check in with
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these teams to see, like how serious this is, how
close it is before I determine if I think the
Lakers have a shot of getting Kyrie. I know they
have a shot because they've been talking for you know,
ever since June of last year. I would just say
things like, if you're a Laker fan, I would just say,
this is be this this latest development that Kyrie has
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done a request and trade. I would say, it's definitely
good news for the Lakers. But I just don't know
how close that it is right now? Yeah, how close
it is, how it's feasible. But can we get there?
It's a question, um I I I ask you, where
else does he go? What other what other possibility, what
other team in the league? Perhaps out West has enough assets, uh,
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and it's more attractive for the Brooklyn Nets. What's the
competition for the Lakers because you said there are only
a few teams ready to Yeah, there there, there's the
asset part and then there it's just like the teams
that have the foundation in place to bring on Kyrie.
When I mean foundation, just have the leadership, you know,
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in the organization. So Dallas Mavericks, the Phoenix Suze, I'm
one team that I'm kind to I'm kind of I
need to check in on. Is the Miami Heat. I
know that's in the East, but they were a rumored
to have some level of interest back in June with Kyrie.
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I want to see have have things changed since then?
It and Carl Lowry has not not been playing well
over there in Miami. I know they're trying to look
at ways of upgrading that point guard position. But as
a right now concrete all we know is the Lakers, Mavericks,
and the Phoenix Suns. But I definitely expect not to change.
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I expect a few more teams to get out of
in and that's where I got it, you know, I
have to get on those phones and make those calls
and see what's real. And that's another team that you
point out good point by Chris Haynes Here, Miami is
always trying to be in the conversation. They really are.
It's such a he's such a competitor. He's not like
let's just wait, He's like, let's just do it, let's go.
But Jordan tells the best stories of how that man
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hawked him and chased him down on a Hawaiian vacation
talking about do you want to come play for us?
And that right said, the right of my sad boy
stopped believing me. Note under my door bind me and
my wife are on deac, you know what I mean. Um,
So a lot of times, a lot of times Pat
does things out of spite, just to make sure, for sure,
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for sure. And that's how I feel like a lot
of the people in the league are with the Lakers,
like they love to see us not doing well. But
also at the same time, it's good for the league
to have the Lakers doing well. It's good for the
league to have Lebron doing well. Like this is a business.
Um but who knows. With that being said, if you
had to make a prediction, we're fast forwarding to the
trade deadline is February seventh. That's Tuesday, correct, February the
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night February night, Thursday. So we have a lot of time,
we have we have a lot of time. Kyrie could
change his mind. Kyrie could be like, never mind, I
like it here, we got the right work. Well, hold
on one thing about Kyrie. He sticks to his guns.
So you don't think he'll change his mind. This is
his decision. I don't see Kyrie no good of good
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of worse. Kylie sticks to his guns. And so this
was a moment. This was a move that they had planned, like,
they had steps in place. If the Nets didn't come
back with an extension, or if they didn't come back
with a reasonable extension, this was their next play. They
were prepared for this this, So this is not something
like off the whim like. This was a premeditated plan
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of attack. And there by the Nets they said, we're
gonna offer him this. We know how he is nine
times out of ten, or maybe eight times out of ten,
he's not going to accept this. We'll move on to
the next phase. Well, i'm speaking on kyrie step plan.
His plan was. If they didn't do this, you know,
I don't I'm not speaking on the nets um, but
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I think the Nets obviously knew that Kyrie would act
a certain way when they presented the offer the way
that they did, with the stipulations that they had. I
don't know that they expected a trade request. I can't.
I can't tell you that, but they definitely knew that
he was He wasn't going up, he wasn't gonna like it.
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And maybe they also thought here and maybe they also
thought that with everything that Kyrie has been through, that
he will feel obbergated to play the season out to
show everybody he can go off, you know, the majority
of season without any controversy. Maybe I felt that, but
this is you know, and he he said, sorry, God,
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damn it, he's my friend. He's sorry times trying to
take that man's dignity. I'm not with it. And this
is why he's more. I'm much more empathetic towards Kyrie
after what he went through. First I was like, Kyrie,
chill out, don't dig in your heels. But we are
also allowed to change our opinions, much like Kyrie. And
then after I saw him apollo and then apologize again,
I was like, enough with it, the stipulations, you know
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what I'm saying. And this is separate. This is separate
from all of that. This is business. This is this
is business. Don't don't conflate the two issues. This is business.
And people are like, oh, I don't want Kyrie's toxic,
and I'm like, shut up, we want to win something.
Pass me to rock. You might want to hear that
right now, your friends ridiculous. Other people's telling you. We're
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still the other people telling y'all never just draft, don't talent.
We drafted Kobe, we drafted Magic. But yes, you drafted.
We built. He belonged to us. And by the way,
players don't stay with teams anymore. We tried to do
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that with Alonso. He wasn't ready, his father, his head, mentally,
he wasn't ready. That's why I said playing at home
is a huge responsibility. This is my thought process on
these players who come from l A and they play here.
You look at Russ Russe is already on the clip anyway,
but on the cliff anyway. But playing in front of
your hometown and not doing well really does and something
in your mind that you wouldn't even know, like I
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could even imagine, right and dealing with what he was having,
what he has to deal with or what he had
to deal with, saying on top of on top of
player at home and player with Lebron like that brings
it play it out. Nope, not just playing at home,
playing at home, playing for the Lakers and playing with Lebron.
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Every champion and carry Champion is to be a Champion
of Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chapion the Champion
and carry Chappion and carry Chappion and sports, and then
the taming connect it. Every Champion, they carry chappions to
be a champion, the Champion, they carry Champion, Champion, they
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carry Champion, they carry Chappion Sports, and then the taming
can make it war. It's a pressure, It's an expectation.
It is it is h it is a responsibility that
you putting yourself. If not an obligation, and if you
aren't mentally built for this, or if your game isn't right,
if you can't if you want to be dug in
like a lot of these players are, and I don't
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need to change my game or fine, you see what happens,
and so I I don't. I don't believe it. It
sounds crazy. I'm not a believer of people who are
born and raised here playing here, Like I just I
feel there's something about it. I just I just I
the track record. I can't think of a player born
and raised here in Los Angeles playing for the Lakers
that has done well, Which is why I believe Paul
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George didn't go to the Lakers, which is why I
believe Kyrie, like Kauai didn't go to the Lakers of
not wanting to play with Lebron. I under I think
they understand it, and they've been able to sit there.
If they were with the Lakers, they couldn't sit under that.
No pressure, no chip guideline. Right, there is not any
pressure on the Clippers. No pressure on Kauai. He already
did it for Toronto. He didn't need it, No pressure
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on Paul. The billboards that they put up, all the
expectations great, but there's still no real pressure. Am I wrong?
Like the Clippers is not like y'all gotta win now,
y'all got these guys, y'all gotta Do you feel that way?
That's an interesting observation, Carrec I don't. I don't know.
I don't. I don't know that because now you're asking
me the say, if you're asking me if Kauai or
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Paul yours we're too intimidated to play under the bright
light for the Los Angeles Lakers. I don't know that
I can say that. I can't. I can't say that
Kauai of all people like I definitely I don't think
Kauai cares about the pressure. But there is a reason
why he didn't choose the Lakers. There's something more to
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it than what we're exploring. Why wouldn't he go to
the Lakers? He didn't want to play with one? Perhaps
hold on, hold on, hold on, don't you know? But
you okay, Let's let's flip this on another side. Why
not go play for the Clippers because it's j V
because because there is that's the problem with you, Laker. Yeah,
(40:47):
I think the Lakers on the one out there we
are Why do you Why would why the Clippers need
to be in Orange County, perhaps in San Diego, just
like the Chargers can't even make any headway. It's like
that you still call them the San Diego Chargers when
they really are the Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams thing
and this is really Raiders territory. If we're keeping in
(41:08):
a bug like it was the Raiders house. It was
the Raiders Airbnb when they came to play the Rams.
If we're being on and so my point being is
that go find a solid fan base where you can
build up elsewhere and people believe in you. It doesn't
make any sense to me, like why are you sharing
an arena with a team that has seventeen chips and
(41:29):
you don't have any area they're building. That's great, Go
ahead and take all your regular seats and wins. Go
ahead and take all your regular season wins, and y'all
be y'all being the house that tech bo right. Rather,
you're gonna have me strange, just just me. No, no, no, no, no.
(41:52):
No one's listening. You're friends. No one's listening. By the way,
I'm tagging this part especially no one's listening, but I haven't.
This is where your fans. If you die are a
Laker fan, you need to listen because I'm roasting the
covers left and right. Know they Oh my god, I
say hate me. They already know I don't. That's my dog,
(42:16):
that's my dude. I got his back all the way,
Like excellent coach when he's Randy to coach a realty
team were waiting for him. We should I like Darvin,
that's my dog. Darn's my dog too. He got it.
But you know, you know Time wanted that. Don't stop it,
stop it. You know Ti wanted the job with the Lakers.
Stop it. They didn't know, they didn't respect him, and
they didn't handle it, which makes me nervous about this
(42:39):
whole kide redal. I'm like, well, they handled this right, well, well,
Kurt Rambas jump in the front office and do something
that don't make sense. These people, certain people making the decisions,
should be making the decisions. You and I both know that,
and that's theer. They offered ty Lou the same contract
terms as Luke Walton, which is ridiculous. Which is ridic
(43:00):
you list, he is one of the rightest coaches we
have in the game NBA Championships. The players respect him.
He's not afraid of anybody. It's about winning. At the
end of the day. You're not gonna bring that diva
nonsense to me. I have nothing but mad respect for him,
which is why the Popers do so well. But you
can't change a mentality, like there is something about that
(43:23):
organization mentally. I believe is stuck and I don't know
what it is, but they can't get over the hump.
Now I think I think TI is going to put
them in the best position to win, but need to
fund don't funny, Okay, fine, these are my thoughts. These
are not They're not Christians thoughts. He's just trying to
(43:46):
tell me the facts behind the Kyrie jumping into trade deadline.
My thoughts do not stand clip. It's the title of
this podcast is NBA uh Inside the NBA tread deadline?
Clipper slander and the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, And I love
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you very much. I appreciate you. Do you have anything
else you want to add? You've been you or you
do a fantastic job. And just to see you win
as a black man makes me so very happy. I
always root for you. I have nothing but great respect
for you. Um and whatever you need for me ever
in any capacity, I'm always here. Mine is to say
something nice about the Clippers. First of all, man, you
(44:32):
know I had nothing but love for you ever since
you know our days. Man, You've always been You've always
been a real one. And yeah, you called me this morning.
I don't do many you know, I know solid you
did me. It's it's not it's not a solid you
take take take care of people. But I wanted I
want to promote a podcast as we just started this
(44:55):
past week, actually this week with my co host Mark
star ESPN. The podcast is called This Lead Uncut, and
we just dropped three episodes this week. I'm very excited
about it. I hope everybody goes subscribe, combent, go check
it out. It's really great stuff. You got two of
(45:16):
the the best NBA insiders you know together a duo.
We're back together from our time with ESPN as well,
so we're knocking it out the part. Uh you know,
I urge everybody please go over there and check us out,
Mark Stein and Chris Haynes This League Uncut correct? All right?
You dropped three episodes. People can find them wherever they
(45:38):
get their podcasts. I'm writing this. I'm promoting this like
I'm gonna promote this on my Amazon show You Gotta.
If all works out well with Turner, they say, you
can come on You Gotta. When you're in the l A.
You gotta sit in the studio and just shoot. We
don't have to talk about the Clippers. We can just talk.
You can talk for the crazy NBA season. I'll take
you up on that, alright, I'll get into that. Have
(45:58):
a good game, covering the game I'm watching, you keep
me abreast on what's happening, and let's go Lakers. That's
Carrie Champion talking, not Christ's a neutral reporter and he
just fools with me because I'm his home girl and
I appreciate so. Again, by the time this podcast airs,
my hope would be that Kyrie is a Laker. I
doubt it. I think it's going to take a long
(46:19):
time to make that deal happen. But Kyrie has been
very clear he does want a trade from the Brooklyn Nets.
And you heard Chris Haynes say Kyrie is dug in
once he's made up his mind. He made up his mind.
He felt as if the talks were um insulting. He
is a max player and to tie a bulk of
his money to whether or not they can get a
(46:40):
chip is unfair. At least that is according to Chris Haynes.
I agree. Um. I also know that Kyrie is a
high risk, high reward player and that wherever he goes,
you do not know what his temperament will be. You
just don't you have to deal with that when it
comes and it happens. He is very much like I
(47:02):
said in the podcast, he's he's the person you date
when you know you shouldn't date him. You're like, man,
this is going all bad, but I still won't you.
And that's how most of Laker Nation feels. If this
is what we have to do to win a chip,
what then coming in and do all the sage you
need to do what? I don't know. If the Summer
Solstice says you only play on Tuesdays and Thursdays, only
(47:23):
play on Tuesdays and Thursdays as long as you there
so we can win a chip, I don't know. Whatever
it takes, whatever it takes, we're desperate. These names that
you guys are giving us don't sound worthy, and by
you names were here flirting around for the Lakers. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
I'm okay with dating somebody who might give me a headache,
(47:43):
but the immediate result is a championship. By Candy, Kyrie's candy.
I mean, I would love for him to be sustenance.
I'd love for him to be a vegetable, good for
your body, good to eat, good for everything, good for
your skin, but right now he's candy because we can't
determine what he feels and think he's just a different dude.
And it's so funny because a true Laker fan, a
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year and a half ago, I was like, I don't
want him. He's too moody, he's this, he's at. We
were so so particular about what we would have, but
now it's been some dark days and make the playoff
one season, to make the play in one season, and
now we're seen here struggling, watching us struggle against the
NIXT What what is happening? So Kyrie high, come babe.
(48:26):
We got a place for you here in l A
and the Hills. I know a good shot where you
can get some herbal, some some herbal festivities if you
need them. Uh what else? What else? What else do
you need? Um? You know whatever you need, whatever you need. Um,
We're ready for you, Kyrie. We want you here. So anyway,
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thank you so very much for listening to this podcast.
I don't know what else to tell you, but we
hope for Kyrie. I'll update you next week. I hope
you've enjoyed this version of the podcast. I
I wouldn't need another day or two that just like
(00:03):
check in with these teams to see, like how serious
this is, how close it is before I determine if
I think the Lakers have a pay a shot of
getting Kyrie. I know they have a shot because they've
been talking for you know, ever since June of last year.
I would just say things like, if you're a Laker fan,
(00:24):
I would just say, this is this latest development that
Kyrie has done a requesting trade. I would say it's
definitely good news for the Lakers, but I just don't
know how close that it is right now, now, right now. Okay,
So according to Chris Hayes, the Lakers have enough to
get Kyrie Irving. Can we get it done? And by we,
I mean me as if I'm in the front office
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with the Los Angeles Lakers and I am not um.
Sit back, relax. It is an inside the NBA trade
deadline addition of naked gotta pay some bills will be
back in just a few moments. It's the greatest. And
(01:09):
then the taming can make your Cheppion. They carry chappion
is to be a CHAMPI on the champion. They carry
Cheppion Chappi and they carry Chappi and they carry Chappi. Hey, everybody,
welcome to the Carrey Champion Show. This is an emergency podcast.
I repeat an emergency pod, breaking news, breaking news. It
(01:29):
is Friday as we record this, so by the time
you hear this on Monday, things could have changed. But
I'm going to try to keep it as a loose
as possible so you guys can understand what's happening in
the NBA contextually. Friday morning, I wake up, I get
a call from my producer. She's like, are we recording today?
I was like, yeah, I've reached out to a friend.
I'll see what happens. My friend is Chris Haynes. He
(01:51):
is UM a sideline reporter for T n T. He's
an NBA insider. I worked with him at ESPN. You've
seen him before, You've read his work. He was at
Yahoo Sporting. Now he is at T and T and
Bleacher Report. He also most recently came out with a
new podcast. We'll get into that in just a second.
But I called him just to talk about the trade deadline. Um,
there are all these reports of what my favorite team
(02:13):
was going to do. You guys know, I love the Lakers,
so I wanted him to break it all down. However,
in the midst of him between him confirming that he
do the podcast and US actually recording one, Kyrie Irving
requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. It sent the
internet ablaze. It sent the NBA world ablaze. It was
(02:35):
a non non non issue for so many people, um
and excuse me check that it was a huge issue
for so many people, um and including the Lakers, because
the Lakers are looking for a really bipowered player. We
need a shooter. The messages won a championship. Now when
(02:57):
it now. As you will know, Kyrie and Lebron lay
together in Cleveland. As you will know, Kyrie did not,
at the very end enjoy playing with Lebron. Kyrie then
goes to Boston, didn't work out there. He goes to Brooklyn.
They were in the news every other day, starting with
the vaccine because Kyrie didn't want to good a vaccine.
He held out. After that, he had been posting some
(03:19):
issues in regards to Jewish people and black people being
the true. I look, I don't even know what he
was posting. If I'm being honest, I read it. I
can't even digest it. But all I know is that
Jewish people were offended, and he ended up getting suspended
by the Brooklyn Nets, and he had to do a
series of apologies that I felt, at one point got
(03:40):
to be ridiculous. Yes, he should have apologized once because
he was so dug in he had posted something that
was factually incorrect and quite frankly offensive, I understand. To
Jewish people. However, however, he had apologized and it should
have been done, but they made him apologize over and
over again, and my my thought process changed. I was like,
(04:01):
you know what, I'm riding with, Kyrie. Now you made
this black man apologize, and now you're trying to take
his dignity away. Initially I thought, Kyrie, if you don't
know what you're posting, perhaps you shouldn't post it, or
you don't have to post something to show what you're
learning if you really don't know the origins of it
are or what it's about. It was a movie that
(04:25):
you can steel friend on Amazon, by the way, about
black Israelites, and I don't know much of the particulars.
I do know that I did not agree with all
of the content that that was being passed around regarding
said movie, and when Kyrie was asked about it, he
was very defiant, like, come on, I'm not promoting anything.
Leave me alone. I could post what I want to post.
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So in real time, Kyrie learned that the very same
people who loved you when you did not want to
get a vaccine. And by those people, I mean there
were a lot of folks calling him a hero who
didn't look like us. They were protesting outside of um
Barclay saying we love Kyrie who because he didn't want
to get a vaccine, and we love Kyrie and he's
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this and he's that. Those same people were also protesting
after he made that post that made so many people upset,
saying they want Kyrie out of the Barclays, they want
him out of Brooklyn. They didn't want him to be
a player anymore. And he went from loved to hate it.
He went from the guy who really was a hero.
You know, I remember politicians, in particular Republican politicians were
(05:30):
calling him a hero because he didn't want to get
the vaccine to being called names by those same Republican politicians. Right,
it's quick. Life comes at you fast. But so many
people started to change their mind because we did not
and by so many people, I mean the black folks
me culturally, we didn't like the way that they were
the appearance of a black man apologizing over and over
(05:54):
and over and over and over and over again. He
said sorry, Okay, will say another sorry. Right now. He
has to meet a list of obligations. Come on, man,
let's get back to the business of basketball. This is
getting out of him. Since then, he's been quiet. He
paid for his punishment in the sense of he was fined,
(06:16):
he apologized, he had to sit out, he did what
he had to do, He did all the work. He
then comes out last week, as we find out, and
he says, guess what, I still want an extension here. So,
of course, fast forward to today, present day Friday, when
the news breaks that he wants out. He's requested a
(06:36):
trade and if he doesn't get traded before the deadline
of February nine, he's leaving. During free agency, we were like, wait, ha, ha,
what happened. I'm gonna tell you what happened. We're able
to call my guy, Chris Haynes in as I talked
about NBA Insider, He's talked to the Kyrie camp He's
had conversations with the Lakers front office. He knows what
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these teams are trying to do. This is the frenzied
time of year where people are trying to figure out
who will go where, and Kyrie has put his name
into this trade deadline and he is a big fish.
There were no big fish requesting trades. We haven't seen
something like this in a minute. The last time we
had this frenzied type of atmosphere was when we were
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trying to figure out in my mind where Lebron was going,
which I knew was in l A But whatever, It's
a frenzied atmosphere. What's going to happen Kevin Durant sweepstakes?
Where's Kevin Durant gonna go? Is he staying with the
Warriors or he's going elsewhere? Frenzied behavior, and that's what
you're feeling right now. It's palpable. Where will Kyrie go?
True enough, by the time this podcast airs on Monday,
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Kyrie could be a Laker or he could still be
with the Brooklyn Nets with the pending trade happening again.
The deadline is next Thursday, y'all. So by the time
you're listening to this. If Kyrie hasn't made up his mind,
we still got three or four days to twist and
the wind to find now if he will be dealt
by the Brooklyn Nets. As you will hear on this podcast,
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here are the following things that you will hear. You
will hear why it makes sense for him to be
a Laker, or if in fact the Lakers have enough
to get Kyrie in terms of assets to get Kyrie.
He will hear how we got to this point, How
we landed on Kyrie just last week saying he wants
to stay in Brooklyn now requesting a trade. How do
(08:25):
we get here. We don't get into the history of
his up and down relationship, the emotional highs and lows
that he's had with this organization. But we do get
into um the fact that Kyrie is mercurial. I hear
people saying he's toxic. I hear people saying, I wouldn't
want to mow my team. All of you people are ridiculous.
(08:47):
That means you people don't want to win a chip.
That's what that means. Kyrie um has had a relationship
with Lebron. We get into that, We get into the
fact that. Kyrie has also said he was young when
he wanted out of Cleveland and if he had to
do it over again, he would mind playing with the
Brown again. All of this makes sense. We get into
all of the particulars um I. Also, if you're a
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Clippers fan, you don't want to hear this because I'm
trash talking to Clippers up and down. I have a
theory about them and you can enjoy that. If you're
a Laker fan, this might be just a Laker pod
for Laker podded episode uh for today. So sit back, relax,
get the education, start the debate. Where will Kyrie Irving Land?
(09:29):
Here is Chris Haynes with his insider information. Hope you
all enjoy this edition of Naked You guys, we have
a special, a special guest on the show. Um as
we as we tried to basically say, hey, can you
come on the show, and as we as in me,
Chris Haynes does us a solid and says yes, that's
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early this morning on Friday. Little do we know, a
few hours after our conversation, Kyrie with set the trade
deadline World on fire. You know, Chris Haynes, I will
work with him at ESPN. He's now at t n
T and Bleacher Report. Uh, he's an NBA insider, a
senior reporter on the sidelines for t NT. He knows all.
So talk to me about NBA trade deadline. I was
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just asking for the landscape. But now that we know,
as of this morning or this afternoon, wherever you live,
Kyrie requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. What does
that mean for the NBA trade deadline and free agency? Well, ultimately,
now he's the top dog um in the trade deadline,
you know, stratosphere. Right now, he's going to be the dovadog. Uh.
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Obviously there's a lot that goes with acquiring or even
you know, inquiring about Kyrie Irvin. But he's a dynamic talent.
And lets let me give you some backgrowl if I
could always Kyria and how we got here. So last
week I reported and I had a story with Setilia Irvin,
who is kyrie stepmother, and but she also she also
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serves as his agent. So she went on the record
with me last week stating how she would like to
get an extension done, how Kyrie wants to be a
member of the Brooklyn Nets for the long term and
as she said, the ball is in the next court.
To get something done, get something reasonable done, reasonably done.
And so up until that point, the Nets were hesitant
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on talking or even offering any type of an extension.
So since she went public with me on that last week,
over the last few days, they started to engage and
the Nets changed with an offer. But and I and
I just reported this recently, but the offer that they
came with was a contract that was tied to the
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Nets winning the championship, and Kyrie and his camp felt
so insulted by that where that's what led to him
requesting the trade. And um I was told that even
if the Nets changed us right now and offered a
full max max slot salary, he would return it down.
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He wants out. It's got that serious. And this was
something that we've seen coming. I thought, I thought it
would be a couple more days until we got to
this point. I didn't think it would be today. But
you kind of saw the writing on the wall when
she when she came out publicly last week and said,
the ball is in the next court. And so this
is where we this is where we are now. Well,
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we're at six days before the trade deadline. Six days
before the trade deadline, Kyrie Irving says, I want to
be traded from the Brooklyn Nets. According to Chris Haynes
um NBA Insider, the situation is really simple, folks. Uh,
Kyrie was not liking what, in fact Brooklyn was offering
in terms of an extension which was tied to a championship.
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That felt insulting. Why would that based on what you
know when you're reporting, why would that feel insulting to Kyrie? Well,
listen that that is first of all, I mean it's
in the center base contract, which means that a certain
amount of his salary was what's going to be guaranteed
if they want a championship. And so for a player
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of Kyrie's Klumburg, you know, he's a you know, when
all things being said, if everything is equal, you know,
he's a he's a max player. You know, he's one
of the top fifteen players we have in this league.
And yes, you know, Kyrie has done some things and
saying some things that has got them in trouble throughout
his career. But he felt like, you know, especially at
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this time, you know, let's let's talk about why. Now, obviously,
the trade of thatline of February night, but time and
Kevin Durant has been out. And so while Kevin Durant
has been out, Kyrie Irvan has had to shoulder the
low offensively. And so it's it's Tavi came in. It
told him his body. You don't know when Katie is
going to come back, and so that the nets are
asking a lot of him, and so in return, you know,
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Kyrie has been a model citizen ever since he came
back from that suspension, and you know he wants security.
He's putting his body on the line. The Nests are
asking more of him because he's the top dog with
Katie being out, so he wants some security. So you know,
you really don't hear about instead of based contracts by
two players of his caliber. But again, if you're looking
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after the Nest standpoint, you will understand how to why
they're taking that type of approach. But I to a
championship where a bulk of his salary is guarantee if
they win a championship. That pretty much is unheard of
for a player of his caliber. Okay, fair, Now, on
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the other hand, this is what you're going to hear
in correct me, if I'm wrong. They offer James hard
and Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving extensions and the only
person who took it was Katie. He asked her, no, yes,
Katie took it. Correct for your extension. Believe so now
he we are, James Harden is no longer there. They
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have had their issues with Kyrie. Well reported. He's put
his head down and did his job. He said he
wanted to stay there, but now he feels away. Enough
is enough? Is this all a part of the what
I thought was okay, yes, apologized and then apologize again,
and then apologize some more. But then now and then
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now it's like, and then guess what if you do
want to stay here? Here are some other things? Is
this Kyrie is basically saying, after it's all said and done,
I apologize. I did all the things and at all
the requirements. Uh. Those are two different issues in my opinion,
but they're starting to be complated, and he's just tired
of bending over backwards to please an organization when he
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knows he's a max player. Is that what we're dealing
with here in your opinion? No, I definitely think you
could say that. I mean, I just think you know,
he ultimately felt insulted. You know, he he wanted to
get an extension done. He wants to stay with the
Brooklyn Nets and so and he's been up again a
model citizen for the Brooklyn Nets since returning, and he's
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being asked to shoulder a load, a heavy load with
KD being out, and all he's asking for is security.
And again I'm not I'm not coming here acting like
I don't understand where the brooklyn Nets are coming from.
But when when you start to talk about, you know,
being tied to a championship where money is guaranteed if
you win a title, that's that's unheard of for a
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players caliber. So yes, I mean, and it's hard not
to look at everything that he has been through with
the Brooklyn Nets and and a lot of a lot
of it is warranted, you know, based off of the
things that he's done. But you know, it's hard to
not think about everything in his totality and come to
the conclusion that, man, all this is building up and
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this is just one more thing that Kyyrie shows like
he has to deal with and he wants out. And
just the fact that he's telling and that that has
that even if you don't Um out door free agency,
he wants out. That's that's showing you, like how adamant
he needs about this. He's just done now. Critics will
say Kyrie Um is a player that you can't really
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count on his last few teams, he has stayed no
more than a season. This might be a season or two. Right?
Is that fair? He was in Boston, I went out,
comes to Brooklyn. It's great quiet, they do what they
can do. A lot of drama, he asked out. He
wants in. It's been it seems as if he seems
like a fickle player. How could an organization and and
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no organization in particular, but how can an organization invest
in him? High risk, high reward player It appears to be. Yeah,
I mean that's that is that is a tough conundrum.
And and this is you know, this is what Kyrie
finds himself in. And you know, just look at his
track record, looking at his history, and it seems like
these things continue to repeat themselves. But what I will
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say is that those things are you know, all of
his past transgressions, they've caused him to caused him to
be a player where a handful of teams are interested,
opposed to the entire league, and a player of his caliber,
the entire league is supposed to be calling, banging at
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the Brooklynness door, trying to see if they can get
in the mix. And it's a handful of teams and so,
but all you need is one team, you know, all
you need is one team to pull the trigger to
give you the type of deal or give you a
type of role that you need. And the good thing
about it for Kyrie, the teams that are calling, our
teams that are trying to win the championship. These aren't
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bottom feeder teams. These are teams that have good structure,
a good foundation, and so he would he would they
look at him as being a missing piece, and so
it's a good situation to be in. But yes, you know,
if this was any other star player that that does
this without you know, the ask transgressions they're they're getting,
They're getting calls from everybody bought it around the league
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opposed to a half full Yeah. Okay, So we have
a few teams that are who really want Kyrie, are
willing to do the high risk for high reward because
they want to win. Now, they don't want to win yesterday.
What is Kyrie looking for? Is he looking what type
of deal would he take at this moment? Is he
desperate just to gett out or does he want his
money and his years? Well, you know, I couldn't say,
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you know, I couldn't say money is not an issue
at all, But definitely he wants he wants security. I
don't I don't think he didn't want to play out.
He didn't want to play out this year, um just
not knowing hit his his financial status, especially with the
Brooklyn Nets. But what he wants? You know, I think
what a lot of these teams have to offer a structure.
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I mean he touched on the Kerry. These are three
superstar players the last few years who have requested a
trade out of the Brooklyn Nets. You know, Katy resented
that trade in the off season, came back, but now
you know, the domino is gonna victually fall back on him.
What is he going to do? How is he going
to feel the brook of Let's have them locked up
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for another three years. But it's this is gonna be
a domino effect right here. And I think I think
with these teams, Kyris is looking for structure, a sound foundation,
and he's going to have that with these other teams.
I will be very surprised if she Kyrie is still
a member of the next pass to theirline. Okay, we
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gotta pay some bills, as you will know. Fast forward
to hit that button that fifteen fifteen fifteen, uh and
when we come back, Chris Haynes gets into the nit
in the grid of what's going on with Kyrie and
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Thank you for sticking with us. This edition of Naked
is really good. We're getting some juicy information and like
I said, the hope is by the time you're listening
to this, something significant has happened for my Lakers. Take
a listen. It's Chris Haynes. Okay, let's go to my
own personal interests and what everyone is talking about. Lebron
sends out a tweet with eyes and and a King hat,
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and I'm like, and I immediately replied, don't play with us.
Don't play with us, because I'll take Kyrie and all
of his issues if that means a chip. I'm that
kind of thing, right, And I do believe the Laker
nation feels that way. Urban Urban Magic Johnson himself, I'd
like to see Kyrie with a Laker. We all would
like to see it. The feasibility of that really happening.
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I don't believe the Lakers have enough assets for the perclonets.
I think they do. I think they do. You know
you have those you have those two first round picks
that they've Yeah, they did not waiver from Alician, not
even one of them. You know, when they were talks
in pressure about going after Indiana's duo of Miles Turner
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and Buddy Hill, they didn't waiver. They kept waiting. I
remember I was talking to brob Pelinka months ago and
he was like, we're waiting for that big fish. We're
waiting for that big fish. I don't think many saw
this coming into this past week, but yeah, they have enough.
I mean it may it may take a third team
to get involved, but I believe they do have enough.
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I mean, the the the value, you know, Kyrie's value
um market value is not what it was, and so
I think the Brooklyn Nets have to get something in
return because the threat of Kyrie saying he's going to
leave in free agency, it's not necessarily a threat um
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to the next that he's going to be gone, but
it's the threat that he can be gone. And they
don't get anything in return, correct, So that's why they
have to take this trade there very seriously, like why
keep him around? And they know how mercurial he is,
and why keep him around if they get nothing in return?
Get whatever you can right now? Who can give me whatever? Now,
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let's talk about the morality of that organization. Would they
not trade him to the Lakership because he wants to
go there? Or do you think they have more incentive
to send him somewhere he wants to go? Well, no,
I don't think they haven't anywhere he has to go.
They have to get the right deal, that's all that matters.
And plus you don't want to see him Kyrie over
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to a team media conference. Sure, you don't want you know,
they don't want to. Yeah, and they've already done that
with Philly and the James had he see Yeah, and
so they I'm trying to do that. Yeah, and I
think he would be sent back west. And that that's why,
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you know, look at the Dallas mavericks Um, you look
at the phoenix size of Los Angeles lers. For sure,
the Lakers have been a team that's been talking with
the brook that that doesn't feel like for about a
year already about this about Kyrie. So it just seems
like this is the closest, the closest we've been chest
seeing the potential, you know, seeing potentially Tyree Dot in
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a liquor's uniform. So here's my thought process. The reason
why they wouldn't want to do it because perhaps in
their mind they don't want to meet him in the finals,
but they would have to beat they'd have to beat
a long way away look at me with Dreamy. But
but that's why, that's why the contract offer being tied
to a chair hap ship. That's why it's so insulting
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because you know, you know, I talked to a lot
of players, you know, in that in that locker room.
They don't believe that right now, how they're a symbol
that they're a championship. You know, there's some pieces that
need to be out Ben Simmons, namely, what's his usual
question mark? Ye, they'd have to get past other teams
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in the East to even get to that level. And
are they better than other teams in the East? Are
they better than the Celtics? Are they better than exactly?
So that's what that's why, that's why it makes it
soul insulting that that the Ads an a layer to it. Okay,
so before Kyrie came in and blew up a free
agency or excuse me, NBAH trade deadline, I would like
to talk about what the Lakers were thinking they were
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going to do. What are the reports of this Zach
Levine and sin Lonzo light skin regime? Coming back to
what is the report? I didn't want the light skins,
but I was that a fair deal in your in
your opinion when they were saying this could be what
it looks like? Uh with the team like as constructor
right now? Yeah, with the Lakers, No, So I was
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always told they were going to make a letter move
and the you know what we spt hearing is you
know they're knocking on the Detroit Pistons door about um Bogdanovitch,
you know that sniper shooter, you know parents and with
the Pistons right now, adding a quality shooter is a
premium right now. The Detroit Yeah, we're we're hearing that.
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Then you know they won't let him go for at
least a unprotected first round pick. But the Lakers have
just been trying to hold steady. Rob polgo was called man.
I've talked to pretty much every single Simulinity and Rob
Polikas has called them at least once, just trying to
figure out what they're trying to do. Who's available. So
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he's doing his job. I know Plinkett gets a lot
of flak. People said he's just sitting on and shipping
on his ass, But he's doing his job. I think
right now, you know, I would have thought if this
Kyrie didn't come into play, you know, I think you're
looking at potential Malik Beasley move, you know, bringing it
because they need to shoot Malik Beasley. But Danovitch, you
know guys like that, So I know a guy I
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know players like that probably wouldn't have made the splash
that Laker fans are hoping for. But it definitely would
have been a good complimentary piece. And I like the
addition to I think he's, you know, a really good
key special. I think he could see he can fit
right in. I don't know you, but what I've seen
this car makes sense. We need some we need fundamentals,
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you know what I mean. He's looking good and he's
you need we need some. And I act like I'm
in the front office. I everyone knows I am a
dire like your fan. I do not care. I will
talk about it till I'm blow in the face, but
I am reasonable. I didn't see us doing much, and
I didn't like the struggle against the Knicks, but I
know the Knicks got up to play. Is when I'm like,
this is ridiculous. Whatever is happening out there is ridiculous.
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Um So, so you what you have said twice, maybe
even three times. We don't like Roberlika. He's trending the
other day, but you say he's doing his due diligence.
You believe that he has been doing the work. Yeah
your name, Yeah, yeah, I mean the results that doesn't
always tell the you know, the truth, the whole truth.
You know it takes it always takes two teams to
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get a deal done, but he's definitely Cavis And yeah,
that's why you hear. That's why you hear. You know
a lot of Laker rumors are reports getting out because
you know, he's making a lot of calls and talking
to a lot of people, and so a lot of times,
a lot of teams kind of know a little bit
of what the Lakers are trying to do, and that's
how that stuff leads. Well, then here's my other question,
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because I don't believe everyone's off of him right. The
whole tar the Rosen Russell Westbrook situation just made everybody upset.
It was like, what is going on? How dare you
want to get that? It was? And and and everyone's
like I wanted tomar that was and everyone's blaming Rob.
I don't believe that that it was just Rob's decision.
But I think Rob made a huge mistake and I
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don't Also, I will say this, I don't think Tomorrow
would have played as well home for whatever reasons. I
just don't believe he would have. I think it would
have been a different scenario. Well, who knows, I could
be wrong. Um, I just feel like playing at home.
There are a lot of different things that come into play,
and when you play free, um, it's it's good. And
he fit into assistant that really works for him. I
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think Kyrie has played with Lebron before. He knows what
it comes to, what it takes. I think he appreciates
it more than anybody he ever played with before. I
do believe that after spending his time looking to hang
out with others, he realized, come back home because it
feels good, you know what I mean? Like you, you
don't know what's going, what's missing until it's gone. Right. Then,
what did he say? What did he say? He said
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he made a mistake and requesting to trade out of Cleveland.
He said that he was y'all and he didn't appreciate
what he had at that time. And you know, can
we trust so material? Can we trust that a pot
of some some stage on in crypto because he's mad
at Lebron one day, Like, can't we trust that? I
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want Kyrie, but I don't trust his mood swings. I
don't trust his mood swings that I heal one day
it's like it's a summer soulstice and he doesn't want
to play now. Mind you, this was before I was
talking so bad about him, and I'm standing on the
record on this same very podcast saying I don't want him.
I don't want him. Here here I am a year later,
Like looks good to me, That's all I'm this. Yeah, yeah,
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I'm just as smecial. Yeah. I think you can not
trust them but still want him. And I think that's
a lot of liquor fans find themselves in, Like, IM
don't trust I don't trust Kyrie. Bring him over? Wait
a second, bring him over? Who who's single? Who has
not dealt with that? If not tweeve hours a day,
seven days a week. You're like, trust her, but I'm
a data still her, but I don't trust her? Ask him?
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But yeah, it's the same relationship that he's not. How dude,
you like, you ready to risk it all for but
you know it's gonna be a disaster, but you're still
gonna do it. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but it
makes complete sense, okay in your opinion, And not that
you can predict or that you know, But do you
think the Lakers in and the next can get a
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deal done? And Russell goes over there and plays and
reunites with Russell, plays with Kevin Durant. They hate each other,
So there's that doesn't even seem like a feasibility right there.
Not friends anymore. I think they know they're they're cool.
I think they can I think they can't say it
together like God, sure I would need I wouldn't need
another day or tune that, just like check in with
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these teams to see, like how serious this is, how
close it is before I determine if I think the
Lakers have a shot of getting Kyrie. I know they
have a shot because they've been talking for you know,
ever since June of last year. I would just say
things like, if you're a Laker fan, I would just say,
this is be this this latest development that Kyrie has
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done a request and trade. I would say, it's definitely
good news for the Lakers. But I just don't know
how close that it is right now? Yeah, how close
it is, how it's feasible. But can we get there?
It's a question, um I I I ask you, where
else does he go? What other what other possibility, what
other team in the league? Perhaps out West has enough assets, uh,
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and it's more attractive for the Brooklyn Nets. What's the
competition for the Lakers because you said there are only
a few teams ready to Yeah, there there, there's the
asset part and then there it's just like the teams
that have the foundation in place to bring on Kyrie.
When I mean foundation, just have the leadership, you know,
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in the organization. So Dallas Mavericks, the Phoenix Suze, I'm
one team that I'm kind to I'm kind of I
need to check in on. Is the Miami Heat. I
know that's in the East, but they were a rumored
to have some level of interest back in June with Kyrie.
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I want to see have have things changed since then?
It and Carl Lowry has not not been playing well
over there in Miami. I know they're trying to look
at ways of upgrading that point guard position. But as
a right now concrete all we know is the Lakers, Mavericks,
and the Phoenix Suns. But I definitely expect not to change.
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I expect a few more teams to get out of
in and that's where I got it, you know, I
have to get on those phones and make those calls
and see what's real. And that's another team that you
point out good point by Chris Haynes Here, Miami is
always trying to be in the conversation. They really are.
It's such a he's such a competitor. He's not like
let's just wait, He's like, let's just do it, let's go.
But Jordan tells the best stories of how that man
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hawked him and chased him down on a Hawaiian vacation
talking about do you want to come play for us?
And that right said, the right of my sad boy
stopped believing me. Note under my door bind me and
my wife are on deac, you know what I mean. Um,
So a lot of times, a lot of times Pat
does things out of spite, just to make sure, for sure,
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for sure. And that's how I feel like a lot
of the people in the league are with the Lakers,
like they love to see us not doing well. But
also at the same time, it's good for the league
to have the Lakers doing well. It's good for the
league to have Lebron doing well. Like this is a business.
Um but who knows. With that being said, if you
had to make a prediction, we're fast forwarding to the
trade deadline is February seventh. That's Tuesday, correct, February the
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night February night, Thursday. So we have a lot of time,
we have we have a lot of time. Kyrie could
change his mind. Kyrie could be like, never mind, I
like it here, we got the right work. Well, hold
on one thing about Kyrie. He sticks to his guns.
So you don't think he'll change his mind. This is
his decision. I don't see Kyrie no good of good
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of worse. Kylie sticks to his guns. And so this
was a moment. This was a move that they had planned, like,
they had steps in place. If the Nets didn't come
back with an extension, or if they didn't come back
with a reasonable extension, this was their next play. They
were prepared for this this, So this is not something
like off the whim like. This was a premeditated plan
(35:20):
of attack. And there by the Nets they said, we're
gonna offer him this. We know how he is nine
times out of ten, or maybe eight times out of ten,
he's not going to accept this. We'll move on to
the next phase. Well, i'm speaking on kyrie step plan.
His plan was. If they didn't do this, you know,
I don't I'm not speaking on the nets um, but
(35:42):
I think the Nets obviously knew that Kyrie would act
a certain way when they presented the offer the way
that they did, with the stipulations that they had. I
don't know that they expected a trade request. I can't.
I can't tell you that, but they definitely knew that
he was He wasn't going up, he wasn't gonna like it.
(36:03):
And maybe they also thought here and maybe they also
thought that with everything that Kyrie has been through, that
he will feel obbergated to play the season out to
show everybody he can go off, you know, the majority
of season without any controversy. Maybe I felt that, but
this is you know, and he he said, sorry, God,
(36:26):
damn it, he's my friend. He's sorry times trying to
take that man's dignity. I'm not with it. And this
is why he's more. I'm much more empathetic towards Kyrie
after what he went through. First I was like, Kyrie,
chill out, don't dig in your heels. But we are
also allowed to change our opinions, much like Kyrie. And
then after I saw him apollo and then apologize again,
I was like, enough with it, the stipulations, you know
(36:48):
what I'm saying. And this is separate. This is separate
from all of that. This is business. This is this
is business. Don't don't conflate the two issues. This is business.
And people are like, oh, I don't want Kyrie's toxic,
and I'm like, shut up, we want to win something.
Pass me to rock. You might want to hear that
right now, your friends ridiculous. Other people's telling you. We're
(37:11):
still the other people telling y'all never just draft, don't talent.
We drafted Kobe, we drafted Magic. But yes, you drafted.
We built. He belonged to us. And by the way,
players don't stay with teams anymore. We tried to do
(37:33):
that with Alonso. He wasn't ready, his father, his head, mentally,
he wasn't ready. That's why I said playing at home
is a huge responsibility. This is my thought process on
these players who come from l A and they play here.
You look at Russ Russe is already on the clip anyway,
but on the cliff anyway. But playing in front of
your hometown and not doing well really does and something
in your mind that you wouldn't even know, like I
(37:53):
could even imagine, right and dealing with what he was having,
what he has to deal with or what he had
to deal with, saying on top of on top of
player at home and player with Lebron like that brings
it play it out. Nope, not just playing at home,
playing at home, playing for the Lakers and playing with Lebron.
(38:14):
Every champion and carry Champion is to be a Champion
of Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chapion the Champion
and carry Chappion and carry Chappion and sports, and then
the taming connect it. Every Champion, they carry chappions to
be a champion, the Champion, they carry Champion, Champion, they
(38:37):
carry Champion, they carry Chappion Sports, and then the taming
can make it war. It's a pressure, It's an expectation.
It is it is h it is a responsibility that
you putting yourself. If not an obligation, and if you
aren't mentally built for this, or if your game isn't right,
if you can't if you want to be dug in
like a lot of these players are, and I don't
(38:59):
need to change my game or fine, you see what happens,
and so I I don't. I don't believe it. It
sounds crazy. I'm not a believer of people who are
born and raised here playing here, Like I just I
feel there's something about it. I just I just I
the track record. I can't think of a player born
and raised here in Los Angeles playing for the Lakers
that has done well, Which is why I believe Paul
(39:19):
George didn't go to the Lakers, which is why I
believe Kyrie, like Kauai didn't go to the Lakers of
not wanting to play with Lebron. I under I think
they understand it, and they've been able to sit there.
If they were with the Lakers, they couldn't sit under that.
No pressure, no chip guideline. Right, there is not any
pressure on the Clippers. No pressure on Kauai. He already
did it for Toronto. He didn't need it, No pressure
(39:41):
on Paul. The billboards that they put up, all the
expectations great, but there's still no real pressure. Am I wrong?
Like the Clippers is not like y'all gotta win now,
y'all got these guys, y'all gotta Do you feel that way?
That's an interesting observation, Carrec I don't. I don't know.
I don't. I don't know that because now you're asking
me the say, if you're asking me if Kauai or
(40:05):
Paul yours we're too intimidated to play under the bright
light for the Los Angeles Lakers. I don't know that
I can say that. I can't. I can't say that
Kauai of all people like I definitely I don't think
Kauai cares about the pressure. But there is a reason
why he didn't choose the Lakers. There's something more to
(40:27):
it than what we're exploring. Why wouldn't he go to
the Lakers? He didn't want to play with one? Perhaps
hold on, hold on, hold on, don't you know? But
you okay, Let's let's flip this on another side. Why
not go play for the Clippers because it's j V
because because there is that's the problem with you, Laker. Yeah,
(40:47):
I think the Lakers on the one out there we
are Why do you Why would why the Clippers need
to be in Orange County, perhaps in San Diego, just
like the Chargers can't even make any headway. It's like
that you still call them the San Diego Chargers when
they really are the Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams thing
and this is really Raiders territory. If we're keeping in
(41:08):
a bug like it was the Raiders house. It was
the Raiders Airbnb when they came to play the Rams.
If we're being on and so my point being is
that go find a solid fan base where you can
build up elsewhere and people believe in you. It doesn't
make any sense to me, like why are you sharing
an arena with a team that has seventeen chips and
(41:29):
you don't have any area they're building. That's great, Go
ahead and take all your regular seats and wins. Go
ahead and take all your regular season wins, and y'all
be y'all being the house that tech bo right. Rather,
you're gonna have me strange, just just me. No, no, no, no, no.
(41:52):
No one's listening. You're friends. No one's listening. By the way,
I'm tagging this part especially no one's listening, but I haven't.
This is where your fans. If you die are a
Laker fan, you need to listen because I'm roasting the
covers left and right. Know they Oh my god, I
say hate me. They already know I don't. That's my dog,
(42:16):
that's my dude. I got his back all the way,
Like excellent coach when he's Randy to coach a realty
team were waiting for him. We should I like Darvin,
that's my dog. Darn's my dog too. He got it.
But you know, you know Time wanted that. Don't stop it,
stop it. You know Ti wanted the job with the Lakers.
Stop it. They didn't know, they didn't respect him, and
they didn't handle it, which makes me nervous about this
(42:39):
whole kide redal. I'm like, well, they handled this right, well, well,
Kurt Rambas jump in the front office and do something
that don't make sense. These people, certain people making the decisions,
should be making the decisions. You and I both know that,
and that's theer. They offered ty Lou the same contract
terms as Luke Walton, which is ridiculous. Which is ridic
(43:00):
you list, he is one of the rightest coaches we
have in the game NBA Championships. The players respect him.
He's not afraid of anybody. It's about winning. At the
end of the day. You're not gonna bring that diva
nonsense to me. I have nothing but mad respect for him,
which is why the Popers do so well. But you
can't change a mentality, like there is something about that
(43:23):
organization mentally. I believe is stuck and I don't know
what it is, but they can't get over the hump.
Now I think I think TI is going to put
them in the best position to win, but need to
fund don't funny, Okay, fine, these are my thoughts. These
are not They're not Christians thoughts. He's just trying to
(43:46):
tell me the facts behind the Kyrie jumping into trade deadline.
My thoughts do not stand clip. It's the title of
this podcast is NBA uh Inside the NBA tread deadline?
Clipper slander and the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, And I love
(44:10):
you very much. I appreciate you. Do you have anything
else you want to add? You've been you or you
do a fantastic job. And just to see you win
as a black man makes me so very happy. I
always root for you. I have nothing but great respect
for you. Um and whatever you need for me ever
in any capacity, I'm always here. Mine is to say
something nice about the Clippers. First of all, man, you
(44:32):
know I had nothing but love for you ever since
you know our days. Man, You've always been You've always
been a real one. And yeah, you called me this morning.
I don't do many you know, I know solid you
did me. It's it's not it's not a solid you
take take take care of people. But I wanted I
want to promote a podcast as we just started this
(44:55):
past week, actually this week with my co host Mark
star ESPN. The podcast is called This Lead Uncut, and
we just dropped three episodes this week. I'm very excited
about it. I hope everybody goes subscribe, combent, go check
it out. It's really great stuff. You got two of
(45:16):
the the best NBA insiders you know together a duo.
We're back together from our time with ESPN as well,
so we're knocking it out the part. Uh you know,
I urge everybody please go over there and check us out,
Mark Stein and Chris Haynes This League Uncut correct? All right?
You dropped three episodes. People can find them wherever they
(45:38):
get their podcasts. I'm writing this. I'm promoting this like
I'm gonna promote this on my Amazon show You Gotta.
If all works out well with Turner, they say, you
can come on You Gotta. When you're in the l A.
You gotta sit in the studio and just shoot. We
don't have to talk about the Clippers. We can just talk.
You can talk for the crazy NBA season. I'll take
you up on that, alright, I'll get into that. Have
(45:58):
a good game, covering the game I'm watching, you keep
me abreast on what's happening, and let's go Lakers. That's
Carrie Champion talking, not Christ's a neutral reporter and he
just fools with me because I'm his home girl and
I appreciate so. Again, by the time this podcast airs,
my hope would be that Kyrie is a Laker. I
doubt it. I think it's going to take a long
(46:19):
time to make that deal happen. But Kyrie has been
very clear he does want a trade from the Brooklyn Nets.
And you heard Chris Haynes say Kyrie is dug in
once he's made up his mind. He made up his mind.
He felt as if the talks were um insulting. He
is a max player and to tie a bulk of
his money to whether or not they can get a
(46:40):
chip is unfair. At least that is according to Chris Haynes.
I agree. Um. I also know that Kyrie is a
high risk, high reward player and that wherever he goes,
you do not know what his temperament will be. You
just don't you have to deal with that when it
comes and it happens. He is very much like I
(47:02):
said in the podcast, he's he's the person you date
when you know you shouldn't date him. You're like, man,
this is going all bad, but I still won't you.
And that's how most of Laker Nation feels. If this
is what we have to do to win a chip,
what then coming in and do all the sage you
need to do what? I don't know. If the Summer
Solstice says you only play on Tuesdays and Thursdays, only
(47:23):
play on Tuesdays and Thursdays as long as you there
so we can win a chip, I don't know. Whatever
it takes, whatever it takes, we're desperate. These names that
you guys are giving us don't sound worthy, and by
you names were here flirting around for the Lakers. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
I'm okay with dating somebody who might give me a headache,
(47:43):
but the immediate result is a championship. By Candy, Kyrie's candy.
I mean, I would love for him to be sustenance.
I'd love for him to be a vegetable, good for
your body, good to eat, good for everything, good for
your skin, but right now he's candy because we can't
determine what he feels and think he's just a different dude.
And it's so funny because a true Laker fan, a
(48:04):
year and a half ago, I was like, I don't
want him. He's too moody, he's this, he's at. We
were so so particular about what we would have, but
now it's been some dark days and make the playoff
one season, to make the play in one season, and
now we're seen here struggling, watching us struggle against the
NIXT What what is happening? So Kyrie high, come babe.
(48:26):
We got a place for you here in l A
and the Hills. I know a good shot where you
can get some herbal, some some herbal festivities if you
need them. Uh what else? What else? What else do
you need? Um? You know whatever you need, whatever you need. Um,
We're ready for you, Kyrie. We want you here. So anyway,
(48:46):
thank you so very much for listening to this podcast.
I don't know what else to tell you, but we
hope for Kyrie. I'll update you next week. I hope
you've enjoyed this version of the podcast. I
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