February 7, 2022 • 34 mins
If you have a list for your, "Top Five Most Beautiful Woman”, we can be pretty sure our next guest has made that list at some point in your life, but she wasn’t always this undeniable. In this episode, she will share stories from her childhood; where she had to overcome bullying, doubt, and racism with the power of her faith. Today, she transforms those moments into a relatable light to connect with others who have experienced similar stories and traumas. Meagan Good is a model and actress with thirty years in the game, so whether she’s on your list or not, she isn’t going anywhere and even her naysayers know that by now.
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My whole life. I've been set up for that. I
grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood and dealt with
a ton of bullying, a ton of racism, and that
kind of stuff continued as I got into the industry,
continued after I got married, continued after just certain seasons
in my life. So I realized that that's actually a
part of my calling, and I'm set up to to
be there in a way as as kind of a
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get naked. Hey goot, people, Welcome to Naked with Yours Truly,
I appreciate you guys hanging out. You know who's on
the show, and hopefully already I mean, there's not a
hope in my mind. I know for a fact the
men are tuning in because she is gorgeous and sweet
and kind and obviously newly single. So y'all out here
trying to get a boo. I already know what this is.
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But with that being said, making good, Yes, welcome to
the podcast. Before we get into Megan, I wanted to
take a minute to do every now and again on
the podcast. If you're a faithful listener, you know I
do a week recap or I get naked about what
I'm feeling. And this past week has been um a
lot of things for me in terms of how I
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feel about the world in which we live, in the world,
in the space that I live in and that I've
created for myself and the work that I do. Everyone.
I don't know if you're familiar with Brian Flores, but
he is the Honduras, the Afro Latina, if I'm being specific,
coach who sued the NFL. His parents are immigrants from Honduras.
He's born and raised in Brooklyn, So I'm calling him
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Afro Latina because if he's walking down the street, you're
gonna call him black. And he suited the NFL and
three teams and there are more, from my understanding coaches
that will join as a class action lawsuit that says
the NFL is racist, the hiring practices or racist, and
that it's like a plantation. And with being said, the
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sky is blue and water is wet, Like who didn't
know that? If we didn't learn that with Colin Kaepernick,
we find um sure no. Now, the difference in the
not very much of a difference, But the difference in
this case is that Brian Flores is in the process
of looking for a head coaching job. He still thinks
he's a lead candidate for a couple of jobs, which
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I significantly believe, excuse me, not even significantly. I doubt it.
I think his chances have decreased immensely. And that is
sad to say you cannot sue the NFL and then
still think you can work for them. I don't even
know how that works. I don't even know if you
wouldn't want to be in that space. And so when
this lawsuit came about, it was the big breaking news,
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and I said, not for nothing, I'm tired of fighting
to be in spaces where we're barely tolerated. And I
had a lot of you all reach out to me
and say what, So I'm going to repeat it again.
I am sick and tired of fighting for space in
places where we are barely tolerated. And what I mean
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by that is we, as marginalized people, black and brown
people fight so hard to be one of or the first,
and when we get there, we look around and these
fools don't want us there. So why are we fighting
so hard to be there? What's twofold? You want to
pay the way you want to make it easier. You
want to show that you can be an example of
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what is possible. If you see it, you believe it.
You know, I I believe in that wholeheartedly. But I
also know if I'm keeping it real. When you get there,
it's hard to stay there because they make you feel
like you don't belong. You're very rarely welcomed when you're
a minority in a space that doesn't really understand you
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and really isn't trying to understand you because they've never
had to understand you. White people have no need to
understand who we are going to get here less think
of this concept. Racism is a big deal. But you
can read a story about racism if you're white and
decide to do one of several things. One you could
just be like, oh, that's sucked up and go on
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about your day. Too. You can decide to empathize and steal,
go on about your day. Three you could say, Wow,
everybody's still mining, right, because I hear that a lot
y'all steal, whine in y'all had a black president. Calm down,
y'all whine in. And then four right, there's several other options,
but four would be that bothers me, and any time
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I see it as a person who quote unquote has
seen as privileged, I'm going to make sure that I
acknowledge that it's not fair and I'm gonna do my
part in whatever small way to let other people know
that our in these marginalized communities, I stand with you.
I'm not going to ignore what's going on. And that's tough, right,
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It's tough. It's tough to speak freely, it's tough to
speak easily. It's tough to speak your mind, especially in
this social media day and age. What Brian Flores did
was nothing short of being the most courageous hero that
I've seen in a long time. It's a courage to
say I'm going up against the NFL. It took hers
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to say I'm gonna take Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick is
NFL royalty, he is coaching royalty. I'm gonna take his
text messages and use it as an example to follow
lawsuit because I'm fed up now. By the way, Brian
has been fed up for a long time. He just
didn't get that text message over the last couple of
weeks and say I'm suing. He's been fed up for
a long time, much like many of you and I are.
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We're fed up with our circumstances. Were fed up with
the way people are treating us, and in the back
of our mind we know that we are too good
to be treated that way. That goes for personal and
professional relationships. I talked about my my time at the
Four Letters. I was being treated poorly and if I
stayed there, my self worth with a diminished and I
refused to let someone dictate what my self worth is.
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I do that. I do that, but it takes a while,
because we as a collect div want to be in
these spaces that we are barely tolerated in. I say
to you no more. I say to you, once you
realize that they don't want you, pack your shot up
and go. I ain't saying go tomorrow. I ain't saying
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go yesterday. But I'm saying go don't come in as
if you have the experience of a VET and you
still a rickie talking about it. I want to be
here because I'm creating your space for me. If you're
a rookie, stay there, put your head down, figure it out.
I have to say that specifically because I'm mentor young girls,
and I swear sometimes they'd be like, but I need
this and I deserve that, And I'm like, you have
get in line, pay your dues. That's my approach. You
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may disagree and then start talking to me about the
trials and trying and all the nonsense you've been through
because you ain't been through nothing. You can't. You can't
have none of these scars that me and Brian Flores
have unless you've been through something. But here, listen to
this and it's about to get heavy. Here's the problem.
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That man gave up his career. Highly doubt he'll ever
coach in the NFL again, maybe on the collegiate level,
but an NFL coach with aspirations of doing more seems
pretty much dead in the water. And that's what sucks
because he knew that he had to do this so
that it wouldn't happen again. But it will continue to happen.
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But he had to shine a light on something so disgusting.
Which is why I will always be loud about stories
like these, because they deserve the attention. They deserve to
stay top of mind, if you will, so that we understand. Yo,
this is what we're here to do. If we really
want to disrupt, we have to disrupt majorly. I'm gonna
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talk to you nice, but I'm gonna tell you the truth. Now.
Both of those, in my opinion, they can be done.
But I feel bad for him because he's hurt and
he's her team. I don't even think it's funny. Here's
the kicker. He still has hope while he is hurt.
This man still thinks there's a sliver of a chance
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that he could coach in the NFL because he has
two more interviews left. What the audacity of his self worth? Right? Congratulations?
I love it and his hope. But that hope that
he has is the same hope that so many of
us as black folks have. Why do you think we're
not out here asking for revenge. We just want justice
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and equality and our fair share, our piece of this
American pie that we helped build on our back for free.
We would like our peace back. Thank you. We stay hopeful.
And I said to my homeboy, because we were talking
about this the other day, and I go, why are
we so hopeful? I said the same thing to my
friend Jamal. You guys know, Jamal Hill, why do we
as a people remain hopeful that the same group of
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people who have stepped on our necks and kept us
down for years and years and years since its inception
of this country will one day say, you know what,
that's not right. Come on in. Color shouldn't be a
determining factor of whether or not you can succeed or
if you're smart. Come on in. You're different from me
and you socialize differently, but that doesn't scare me. We
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are hopeful that that will ever happen. I mean, we
really are hopeful that will happen rather and I don't
know why. Why are we so hopeful as a people?
It really is fascinating, impressive, encouraging, sad sometimes it's all
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the things, but we stay hopeful. And to me, Former
Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores is a perfect example
of that hope. While he's doing the right thing and
standing in the gap for so many people in other
coaches for that matter, and other people in corporate spaces
who know that they're being mistreated and not promoted because
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of the color of their skin or being black balled
because they had the in audacity of hope, He's standing
in the gap for all of you if you can
relate to that. But at the same time, this man
really truly believes he'll work again in the NFL. I'm
being specific. Read the story if you haven't, It's amazing.
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It's been everywhere. Catch up on it, get involved, get concerned.
Back to our guests. It's the lovely, the beautiful, the
multitalented Megan Good. Now this actress. I'd love to give
a personal story if I have one, and this one's god.
From some some time ago, I was in l A.
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I live here, obviously, but as somehow I got invited
to some party and she was there. You know, l
A is big on house parties if you live here.
And I remember her not checking in, but going up
and saying, Megan Good, and I guess they were giving
us wrist bands so we can drink. You know, this
is a long time ago, because ain't nobody walking up
from no wristbands? Now, well, maybe we are. And I was,
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you know, don't even know. I was not working on TV.
I was, you know, whatever I was doing. Who knows,
maybe I was, I don't remember. But what I do
remember is seeing this beautiful woman named Megan Good. I
do know. I wasn't in the world of television enough
for me to walk up to her and say, what up,
my homie? And I see her there, and she is stunning.
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She is beautiful, her skin is perfect, she's just as
kind as she possibly could. But this is a true story,
woman and woman. She was Hella sexy. It's rare that
I meet a woman I'm like, damn, she's sexy. I
can count on my hands how many women I think
are really sexy. Megan Good is one of them women
that I've seen in person. Don't judge me. Here's my list,
randomly top five, not even top five. Here's my list
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of sexy women that I think. I'm like, oh, she's sexy,
so crazy, and then again, I want to see them
in person, so don't be mad. Definitely Megan Good, Nicole Murphy,
I met her in person. That woman is bad. Not
so much even sexy, but definitely sexy. But bad, bad, bad,
bad bad bad. I see her walking around, I'm like, god, damn,
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you know if I was a man, And then Taylor Rooks,
I think she's super sexy. Shout out to my girl,
Taylor myself of course, and gosh, oh don't be mad.
I'm a go actress Angelina Jolie, Charlie Strod, fight me later,
at me at at Carrie Champion. Meanwhile, back to making good,
I digress. You're gonna really love this. You're really gonna
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love her. She's special. And you also know that she's
coming off of a divorce, so out of respect, I
didn't want to ask about her divorce, just out of respect.
But you could see and you can hear that she
is fighting to pull it all together. She has this
hit show called Harlem, which if you haven't seen, check
it out, and all the while, everything else personally maybe
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falling apart, but she's holding it together and she's doing
it so lovely. We get into it right away about
being California girls, Callie girls. Is just different. We just
made different. Y'all enjoying you. I have to side note, Um,
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let's just talk about how beautiful you are for five seconds.
Like I literally called this is this is my sock story.
I called your hair sell us because I wanted my
hair cut short that color. That was my sock story.
And I was like, Okay, Kerry, relax, it's not happening today.
But anyway, Um, we have a couple of things in
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common born and raised in l A. I think both
of us happen um and talk to me about the difference,
because I can't explain it to people unless they're from here.
What is the the l A vibe? What do we like?
There's a genesis quad that we have because everyone's like,
l A people are so fake, you're so phony? Also this,
I'm like, not if you grew up here? Right? Yeah? No,
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people say that they're usually talking about the transplants us
and not to say the transplants are fake or phony
or anything like that. But I think that people come
to l A a majority of the time with the
dream to make it in the industry in some capacity,
and I think that um there comes like a preconceived
notion of how to carry yourself or how to act
or how to be. And I'm not saying that's true
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for everyone, but I do think that it often becomes
a reflection of how l A people act in an actuality.
Those of us who are who are born and raised here,
we're hippies, you know, most of us are free spirits.
You know, we we vibrate and on like a chill level.
We're easy going, we're probably overly loving to the point
of where sometimes I think we annoy people from New
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York because they're like, you know, you cannot be serious,
you cannot be serious right now, and you're like, no,
I just want to make sure you're okay, and like,
you know, let's talk on Tuesday. You want to go
somewhere and I just make you ten minutes ago, but hey,
let's talk about life. You know, that's a that's a
true story. I think that, especially like growing up here.
I can remember a few times I went to U C.
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L A. And I can remember a fo times there.
There are all these parties where and they were house
parties that I last big on house parties. I try
to explain that to people, talk about that's what we do.
It's not a club scene, but a bomb house party,
like a real firehouse party is where we hang out
and where we live. And they don't understand that when
we when I try to, like, I was like, house
parties are the ship. Yeah, I mean it's so crazy
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because I didn't realize that that's more of an l
A thing. But now that you're saying it, it it totally
makes sense to me. But yeah, we just like a
good vibe. We like to like not always have to
get dressed up, hang out by the pool, have some
good conversations of life, or just like have a party
that's just like going off and you did get dressed up,
but it's like you with all your friends that you
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grew up around, are people that you know him for
like years and years and years, and everybody really wants
to dance and have a good time. And you know
it doesn't have to be like overly expensive. You've got
the red cups and you're just chilling, you know, like
for real, Like that's exactly how we hang out. I
think I'm glad that you're saying that because I do
try to explain that to people and we get um,
you know, people just feel away and I and I do.
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I do feel like that. I'm like, we're not fake,
we're legitimately genuine when we're from here, and you have
to catch the vibe otherwise you miss it. There's something
that I and then I'll talk about this. Um. The
part of what I think is is beautiful about how
you move is that we know that you love the
Lord and that you're a Christian. But there there is
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it's not to be mutually exclusive, to be beautiful, sexy,
play a role that may not be who you are
a bit of a departure, but still say, I love
the Lord. How do you reconcile the two? I think
for me? You know, I got say when I was thirteen,
and at that time, I was like a very religious Christian,
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like very Bible something. I cried when my sister lost
her virginity and told her I didn't want her to
go to hell, like yeah. And then you know, as
I've grown with the Lord and I've gotten to know
him and I started to have real conversations with him
that weren't based on being religious or an ideal, but
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we're based on really getting to know him and really
hearing him for myself. Is when I started having conversations
with him, Like when I was nineteen, was the first
time I was like, wait, Lord, I've been acting like
since I was a kid. I never even asked you
if this is what I should be doing, or like
if this is the life that you have for me.
And I got to a place where I was like,
I'm just gonna put it on the altar and I
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give it to you, and if you want me to
do this, then I will do it. But I want
what you want for me more than what I think
I want for myself. And that was the first time
that I got confirmation that this is the industry that
I should be in, and this is the job that
I should be doing, but that is bigger than me.
And using this platform to glorify him, however, how I
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glorify him as unique to who I am. He made
me all of who I am, from the way that
I think, to the way that I speak, to the
way that I look, to the passions that are in
my heart, the things that I desire to accomplish. He
gave me all of those things. And so when something
is off kilter or not in alignment, he lets me
up and I also ask. And when something is in alignment,
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it doesn't have to make sense to everybody else, but
I know in my spirit that I'm doing what I'm
supposed to be doing. And um for me, I don't
feel that I'm necessarily called to the church in that
way I feel the church, but I'm I'm called two
the world in the sense of you can only light
up the only light can light up dark spaces. Light
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doesn't need to light up light because it's already lit.
You have to go into dark spaces and you have
to be relatable in an authentic way in order to
build the kingdom. And for me, I know, I relate
to who relates to me, you know, and people who
feel you know, left out, or people who feel judged
or criticized or misunderstood or whatever it might be. I
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immediately connect with those spirits. And not even because I'm
trying to. We're just like kindred tribe, you know, And
that's what God has called me too, And so I
just try to really make it about not having a
religious mindset. But like, Lord, what do you say if
you say I'm good and I'm good, and when anybody
else has to say about it, that's not my tribe.
But those who get it get it, and those um
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who don't don't. That's okay. You know, that's a sermon
in itself. Those who wouldn't get it in those who
don't don't, And that's not your work to make those
who don't understand to get it. Like, that's not what
you're supposed to be doing. But you said something that
I thought was really interesting. You've got confirmation. What was
the confirmation? Did they come in a role did you
hear God saying do you move this way? Or was
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it a combination of a few things. Um, it was
a confirm It was the confirmation was a few different things.
But the main thing was because I hear God in
different ways, especially as I've gotten older, I hear him
a lot more crisp and clear. Um. But at that time,
when I was about nineteen, I just felt like a
settling in my spirit, and I felt like God saying, like, yes,
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this is right. But then I also felt like a
curiosity of like him placing on my spirit, but like
that's not it, Like this is not the bottom line,
that's not the answer. And so when I you know,
as I went along through my twenties, I just felt
got in certain seasons saying I'm gonna reveal it to you.
I'm gonna reveal it to you, but you'll know it
as you experience it, and you'll feel it. And so
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when I connected with younger women, when I connected with
people who have been through things that I've been through
that I haven't necessarily spoken about publicly yet and one
day I will whenever God tells me that he wants
me to. But um, when I connected with just like
outcast and people who just feel left out, especially of
left out of the church or left out of whatever
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it may be. My whole life, I've been set up
for that. I grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood.
I dealt with a ton of bullying, a ton of racism,
and that kind of stuff continued as I got into
the industry, continued after I got married, continued after just
certain seasons in my life. So I realized that that's
actually a part of my calling and I'm set up
to to be. They are in a way as as
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kind of a light that like you're good, you know,
if you are being challenged in that way to know
that got its something really really special for you. And
he does give the toughest battles to his strongest soldiers,
and he does have purpose, and every bad thing that
happens seemingly bad, you know. Um, So yeah, I just
kind of felt in every season, I feel like it
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gets revealed to me a little bit more. He gives
the toughest battles to the soldiers. He knows I can
handle it. By the way, that's a word for somebody
myself specifically, especially if you're going through something something something. Hey,
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welcome back to you naked. We have the beautiful, talented
making good still here hanging out with us. You talked
about being bullied. So I read and this is and
by read, I mean my researchers shout out to Henry
and Peyton. They said that you grow up in Panorama
or born in Panorama, but group in Santa Claria, which
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is was canyon country, and you talked about being bullied.
Is that accurate? Those those those places, okay? And what
did bullying look like? And and why were you bullied?
That's interesting, Uh, mainly for being black. I would have
people like in the neighborhood tell me like, oh, you're
not supposed to be here. I had a neighbor's Um,
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I couldn't walk past the sidewalk, I couldn't set flip
on their property at all. UM. I had a fifth
grade teacher who hit me. UM. I had a sixth
grade teacher who was constantly like sending me to the
off this and like picking on me. I had seventh
grade teacher told me I wouldn't make it as an
actress and that I wasn't very pretty. Um. And then
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there were just girls in school that were hell bent
on it, just like you know, touching my hair and um,
a few fights that I got into or like those
girls tried to restrain me. Why somebody else tried to
beat me up? Just stuff here and there a lot
of the N word being thrown around by people who
are not black. Um. Yeah, it was just a lot
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of like racism, you know, or like I mean to
the point of like someone getting out of the pool
because you're in pool. You know, that's trading. That's you know,
for you to say that. And I would think, especially
growing up in California, southern California, I couldn't identify racism overtly.
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And maybe you have because you know, look, I grew
in Pasadena and I was in l A a a lot,
but maybe you had to be further out in neighborhoods
where there were no blacks right for you to be
be able to see it, because I feel like it's
really hidden here, not so much as of late, but
I feel like it's hidden and for you to experience that,
um of course as an adult outside looking at it
just you know, sounds like jealousy, Like people were jealous
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and they didn't want you to succeed when you realized
when did you realize, more specifically that you had a
talent and that people like looking at your face and
that you were beautiful and you and you were set apart.
And by the way, that's an ongoing lesson, I'm sure,
but I'm just saying, we're like, when when did you
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know know that you're like, I'm I'm I'm set here
to do this. One moment was that I think I
always wasn't. I don't know why I was such a
confident kid. I always had an attitude of like, you
don't see it, but I'll show you one day, you know.
But I also kind of had that insecurity of like
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you know, nobody really looked like me where I grew
up except for my sister and my mother, and it
was always like, well, maybe I should look like this,
maybe I should look like that, or I have a
question this boy, but he doesn't like me because I'm black,
or because i'm my hair because of this or whatever.
And so there was always like the insecurity, but like
the overconfidence kind of like messing with each other always.
And I think, um in terms of acting, like, you know,
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I wanted to be like a good dancer, like be
on the dance team or be a cheerleader, and I
just none of those things I would ever make and
I would never get chosen. And so acting for me
was really kind of an outlet in a place where
I could find something that I had ownership over and
I felt confident doing. And it wasn't until probably until
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I was around like sixteen seventeen that I started realizing
that what you do in the world is directly connected
to how God wants to use you in some way,
you know. And so that's when I started being intentional
about like, Okay, well I'm not gonna into this, I'm
not going to do that. And then I think around team.
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Was the first time that I realized this is I
get to be here. You know, I'm a good actress,
but like there, you know, there's million great actresses. I'm
a pretty girl, but there's a million pretty girls. I
get to take up space here because God has allowed
me to take up space here. And because of that,
I know that it's bigger than me. And it's not
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about being a celebrity or being famous or whatever that means.
It's about using what He's given me as part of
my purpose and using it in the world however he
instructs me to. And so yeah, I think that was
the around the time when I first started realizing it.
And then, like you said, it's been an ongoing progression.
You know. Of course, of course you have a show
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out that I love, and I know that you have.
I mean, I don't know anybody who probably don running
up and you're like, listen, Harlem is everything. So it
was it's always to me on the outside looking in
a special moment when the actor gets the role that
is for them and they're put around the right people like,
to me, that has to be such beautiful chemistry and
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destiny and luck and all the things have to come
together for it to be such a special show. Your
show is great. First episode, you guys give a shout
out to a to my partner, my television partner, Jamal Hill.
And then you guys, you have this role in which
everything you say is so real and so honest. I'm like, kudo,
So the writer's kudo. See you for executing. Because there's
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so much that goes on behind it. Talk to me
about when Harlem came to you and you said, this
is it, I gotta do it or I had to
fight forward or whatever it was. What was the process
when they brought this project to you and you ultimately
decided to do it. Um, it's really interesting because TV
always scares me. It's such a big commitment. You know,
like a movie, you go, you shoot for like a
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month to month, three months. If it's like a big
you know whatever DC and Marvel movie, you might be
a few months, but then you're done and but t
be you know, you work from like five to seven
to nine, you know, however many months and then if
the show continues to move on, you're doing that cycle
for years and years and years. And um, I'm very
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much a nomad and a bit of a hippie. So
I don't always like that type of stability. It kind
of scares me. It's just like very committal and so
um with Harlan. Before I got the script of that,
I was like, you know what I would do TV
if I could find something that I love the people
I'm working with, I love the character. It's a character
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I haven't played before, and I get to do like
some physical comedy, like some loose field ball comedy because
I haven't got a chance to really do any of
that stuff, you know. And I was like, that's what
I where I would want to live. And so when
Harlem came to me, I was like, oh my gosh,
like this is it, you know, as I met with
Tracy and then I thought, okay, cool, they'll call me
and you know, we'll do it. And I didn't hear
anything for two weeks and then I was like, well,
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what's what's what's the latest with that? And they were like, oh,
they're auditioning people. And I was like for Camille and
they were like yeah, and I was like, oh, I
would like to audition, and you know, the feedback kind
of came back like they weren't sure if I was
right for her, and I was like okay, and I
was like got it. I was like, can we just
get me in the room and like, just give me
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a chance to show them who I think she is.
And so I went in, you know, tested for it. Um.
Didn't hear anything for another two weeks and no, no,
this damned business. Um. But then when I did get
the call, I remember I was at mama Shelter on
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like buying streets something like that, and I just like
cried and I was like so happy because I was like,
you know, after thirty years in the business, I can
still change people's minds, you know, and I can still
surprise people, and I can still show them that there's
so much more left for me to do that I
haven't even touched the tip of the iceberg. I feel
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like I have such a far way to go, even
though in a lot of ways I'm a vet. I
still feel like, you know, we're growing every day just
as human beings with our experiences and so UM, it
was super gratifying, not just to get the role, but
to prove to someone like that there's something else in
there and and yeah, so this is it, this is it,
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Whether you I mean, I'm telling me, I don't know
what it is, but it really sets you apart and
it is special and it hits home and it and
I know I'm not the only person to tell you that,
but like you know, you group chats when you got
the group chats like you did, y'all see what happened
when and a boyfriend came and he had a girlfriend
and he engaged? How dare he be engaged? How dare
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he be engaged? Can I talk to the writers? Mhm?
Because it's been juicy already waged on this official word
for season two, but it's a it's looking juicy already.
I am more than happy for you, and I know
you have to get out of here. UM. I want
to know if you have anything that you're working on
outside of Harlem. I'm sure um that you want to
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tell everybody about. UM. I have a movie with Jamie
Fox coming out this year for Netflix called Day Shift. Um.
It's a vampire playing comedy. Okay, I'm excited about vampire
for me, it's like bucket this my nineties kids, so
you know, Um, and then I just did the sequel.
She's am uh too, so she's am fey with guys,
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that comes out next year, and got a few other
things in the work they can't talk about yet, but
it's it's it's been a challenging and rough year and
it's also been an amazing year. You know. It isn't
interesting how that works. They go hand in hand, don't they.
I can't relate. I can because you can feel the
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chains following, but you also see breakthrough and then use
this all these different emotions that you're feeling, And I
just want you to know that you are inspiring however
you want to inspire, however, whatever energy you're putting in
the universe. Um, there are people who are looking at you.
Do it so eloquently and so effortlessly, and it's encouraging,
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right with all respect, Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Thank you guys so much for listening to Naked. I
appreciate it. I know in the beginning I was preaching,
but I appreciate you listening for the preach, or at
least fast forwarding only through some parts. Making good check
out her show. It is amazing. It's funny um for me.
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Like I said, it's the equivalent of a better version
of a young sex in the City, but with a
lot of brown girls. It's awesome. It's honest. I mean,
way too honest. I'm like, wait, have I been in
that situation? I think I have. I'm glad to see
that she has so much going on. You have to remember,
Megan was the one that was in Um the Bayou movie,
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Come on, y'all help me out. I had it here
ready to go and share it with y'all. But she
was a kid in that movie. And I remember thinking,
look at this, and I don't know how old she was,
twelve year old girl, but she's super beautiful. Eves By
you you know that. I was like, gosh, she's beautiful
and she had that that genes squal then. And so, Megan,
if you're listening, I'm sitting you love and light and
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I am so happy for your success and I only
hope that at the end of the day, outside of
the success, that you have peace. Thank you guys for
listening to Naked. See y'all next week.
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a ton of bullying, a ton of racism, and that
kind of stuff continued as I got into the industry,
continued after I got married, continued after just certain seasons
in my life. So I realized that that's actually a
part of my calling, and I'm set up to to
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I appreciate you guys hanging out. You know who's on
the show, and hopefully already I mean, there's not a
hope in my mind. I know for a fact the
men are tuning in because she is gorgeous and sweet
and kind and obviously newly single. So y'all out here
trying to get a boo. I already know what this is.
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But with that being said, making good, Yes, welcome to
the podcast. Before we get into Megan, I wanted to
take a minute to do every now and again on
the podcast. If you're a faithful listener, you know I
do a week recap or I get naked about what
I'm feeling. And this past week has been um a
lot of things for me in terms of how I
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feel about the world in which we live, in the world,
in the space that I live in and that I've
created for myself and the work that I do. Everyone.
I don't know if you're familiar with Brian Flores, but
he is the Honduras, the Afro Latina, if I'm being specific,
coach who sued the NFL. His parents are immigrants from Honduras.
He's born and raised in Brooklyn, So I'm calling him
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Afro Latina because if he's walking down the street, you're
gonna call him black. And he suited the NFL and
three teams and there are more, from my understanding coaches
that will join as a class action lawsuit that says
the NFL is racist, the hiring practices or racist, and
that it's like a plantation. And with being said, the
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sky is blue and water is wet, Like who didn't
know that? If we didn't learn that with Colin Kaepernick,
we find um sure no. Now, the difference in the
not very much of a difference, But the difference in
this case is that Brian Flores is in the process
of looking for a head coaching job. He still thinks
he's a lead candidate for a couple of jobs, which
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I significantly believe, excuse me, not even significantly. I doubt it.
I think his chances have decreased immensely. And that is
sad to say you cannot sue the NFL and then
still think you can work for them. I don't even
know how that works. I don't even know if you
wouldn't want to be in that space. And so when
this lawsuit came about, it was the big breaking news,
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and I said, not for nothing, I'm tired of fighting
to be in spaces where we're barely tolerated. And I
had a lot of you all reach out to me
and say what, So I'm going to repeat it again.
I am sick and tired of fighting for space in
places where we are barely tolerated. And what I mean
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by that is we, as marginalized people, black and brown
people fight so hard to be one of or the first,
and when we get there, we look around and these
fools don't want us there. So why are we fighting
so hard to be there? What's twofold? You want to
pay the way you want to make it easier. You
want to show that you can be an example of
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what is possible. If you see it, you believe it.
You know, I I believe in that wholeheartedly. But I
also know if I'm keeping it real. When you get there,
it's hard to stay there because they make you feel
like you don't belong. You're very rarely welcomed when you're
a minority in a space that doesn't really understand you
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and really isn't trying to understand you because they've never
had to understand you. White people have no need to
understand who we are going to get here less think
of this concept. Racism is a big deal. But you
can read a story about racism if you're white and
decide to do one of several things. One you could
just be like, oh, that's sucked up and go on
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about your day. Too. You can decide to empathize and steal,
go on about your day. Three you could say, Wow,
everybody's still mining, right, because I hear that a lot
y'all steal, whine in y'all had a black president. Calm down,
y'all whine in. And then four right, there's several other options,
but four would be that bothers me, and any time
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I see it as a person who quote unquote has
seen as privileged, I'm going to make sure that I
acknowledge that it's not fair and I'm gonna do my
part in whatever small way to let other people know
that our in these marginalized communities, I stand with you.
I'm not going to ignore what's going on. And that's tough, right,
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It's tough. It's tough to speak freely, it's tough to
speak easily. It's tough to speak your mind, especially in
this social media day and age. What Brian Flores did
was nothing short of being the most courageous hero that
I've seen in a long time. It's a courage to
say I'm going up against the NFL. It took hers
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to say I'm gonna take Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick is
NFL royalty, he is coaching royalty. I'm gonna take his
text messages and use it as an example to follow
lawsuit because I'm fed up now. By the way, Brian
has been fed up for a long time. He just
didn't get that text message over the last couple of
weeks and say I'm suing. He's been fed up for
a long time, much like many of you and I are.
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We're fed up with our circumstances. Were fed up with
the way people are treating us, and in the back
of our mind we know that we are too good
to be treated that way. That goes for personal and
professional relationships. I talked about my my time at the
Four Letters. I was being treated poorly and if I
stayed there, my self worth with a diminished and I
refused to let someone dictate what my self worth is.
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I do that. I do that, but it takes a while,
because we as a collect div want to be in
these spaces that we are barely tolerated in. I say
to you no more. I say to you, once you
realize that they don't want you, pack your shot up
and go. I ain't saying go tomorrow. I ain't saying
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go yesterday. But I'm saying go don't come in as
if you have the experience of a VET and you
still a rickie talking about it. I want to be
here because I'm creating your space for me. If you're
a rookie, stay there, put your head down, figure it out.
I have to say that specifically because I'm mentor young girls,
and I swear sometimes they'd be like, but I need
this and I deserve that, And I'm like, you have
get in line, pay your dues. That's my approach. You
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may disagree and then start talking to me about the
trials and trying and all the nonsense you've been through
because you ain't been through nothing. You can't. You can't
have none of these scars that me and Brian Flores
have unless you've been through something. But here, listen to
this and it's about to get heavy. Here's the problem.
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That man gave up his career. Highly doubt he'll ever
coach in the NFL again, maybe on the collegiate level,
but an NFL coach with aspirations of doing more seems
pretty much dead in the water. And that's what sucks
because he knew that he had to do this so
that it wouldn't happen again. But it will continue to happen.
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But he had to shine a light on something so disgusting.
Which is why I will always be loud about stories
like these, because they deserve the attention. They deserve to
stay top of mind, if you will, so that we understand. Yo,
this is what we're here to do. If we really
want to disrupt, we have to disrupt majorly. I'm gonna
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talk to you nice, but I'm gonna tell you the truth. Now.
Both of those, in my opinion, they can be done.
But I feel bad for him because he's hurt and
he's her team. I don't even think it's funny. Here's
the kicker. He still has hope while he is hurt.
This man still thinks there's a sliver of a chance
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that he could coach in the NFL because he has
two more interviews left. What the audacity of his self worth? Right? Congratulations?
I love it and his hope. But that hope that
he has is the same hope that so many of
us as black folks have. Why do you think we're
not out here asking for revenge. We just want justice
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and equality and our fair share, our piece of this
American pie that we helped build on our back for free.
We would like our peace back. Thank you. We stay hopeful.
And I said to my homeboy, because we were talking
about this the other day, and I go, why are
we so hopeful? I said the same thing to my
friend Jamal. You guys know, Jamal Hill, why do we
as a people remain hopeful that the same group of
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people who have stepped on our necks and kept us
down for years and years and years since its inception
of this country will one day say, you know what,
that's not right. Come on in. Color shouldn't be a
determining factor of whether or not you can succeed or
if you're smart. Come on in. You're different from me
and you socialize differently, but that doesn't scare me. We
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are hopeful that that will ever happen. I mean, we
really are hopeful that will happen rather and I don't
know why. Why are we so hopeful as a people?
It really is fascinating, impressive, encouraging, sad sometimes it's all
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the things, but we stay hopeful. And to me, Former
Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores is a perfect example
of that hope. While he's doing the right thing and
standing in the gap for so many people in other
coaches for that matter, and other people in corporate spaces
who know that they're being mistreated and not promoted because
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of the color of their skin or being black balled
because they had the in audacity of hope, He's standing
in the gap for all of you if you can
relate to that. But at the same time, this man
really truly believes he'll work again in the NFL. I'm
being specific. Read the story if you haven't, It's amazing.
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It's been everywhere. Catch up on it, get involved, get concerned.
Back to our guests. It's the lovely, the beautiful, the
multitalented Megan Good. Now this actress. I'd love to give
a personal story if I have one, and this one's god.
From some some time ago, I was in l A.
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I live here, obviously, but as somehow I got invited
to some party and she was there. You know, l
A is big on house parties if you live here.
And I remember her not checking in, but going up
and saying, Megan Good, and I guess they were giving
us wrist bands so we can drink. You know, this
is a long time ago, because ain't nobody walking up
from no wristbands? Now, well, maybe we are. And I was,
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you know, don't even know. I was not working on TV.
I was, you know, whatever I was doing. Who knows,
maybe I was, I don't remember. But what I do
remember is seeing this beautiful woman named Megan Good. I
do know. I wasn't in the world of television enough
for me to walk up to her and say, what up,
my homie? And I see her there, and she is stunning.
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She is beautiful, her skin is perfect, she's just as
kind as she possibly could. But this is a true story,
woman and woman. She was Hella sexy. It's rare that
I meet a woman I'm like, damn, she's sexy. I
can count on my hands how many women I think
are really sexy. Megan Good is one of them women
that I've seen in person. Don't judge me. Here's my list,
randomly top five, not even top five. Here's my list
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of sexy women that I think. I'm like, oh, she's sexy,
so crazy, and then again, I want to see them
in person, so don't be mad. Definitely Megan Good, Nicole Murphy,
I met her in person. That woman is bad. Not
so much even sexy, but definitely sexy. But bad, bad, bad,
bad bad bad. I see her walking around, I'm like, god, damn,
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you know if I was a man, And then Taylor Rooks,
I think she's super sexy. Shout out to my girl,
Taylor myself of course, and gosh, oh don't be mad.
I'm a go actress Angelina Jolie, Charlie Strod, fight me later,
at me at at Carrie Champion. Meanwhile, back to making good,
I digress. You're gonna really love this. You're really gonna
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love her. She's special. And you also know that she's
coming off of a divorce, so out of respect, I
didn't want to ask about her divorce, just out of respect.
But you could see and you can hear that she
is fighting to pull it all together. She has this
hit show called Harlem, which if you haven't seen, check
it out, and all the while, everything else personally maybe
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falling apart, but she's holding it together and she's doing
it so lovely. We get into it right away about
being California girls, Callie girls. Is just different. We just
made different. Y'all enjoying you. I have to side note, Um,
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let's just talk about how beautiful you are for five seconds.
Like I literally called this is this is my sock story.
I called your hair sell us because I wanted my
hair cut short that color. That was my sock story.
And I was like, Okay, Kerry, relax, it's not happening today.
But anyway, Um, we have a couple of things in
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common born and raised in l A. I think both
of us happen um and talk to me about the difference,
because I can't explain it to people unless they're from here.
What is the the l A vibe? What do we like?
There's a genesis quad that we have because everyone's like,
l A people are so fake, you're so phony? Also this,
I'm like, not if you grew up here? Right? Yeah? No,
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people say that they're usually talking about the transplants us
and not to say the transplants are fake or phony
or anything like that. But I think that people come
to l A a majority of the time with the
dream to make it in the industry in some capacity,
and I think that um there comes like a preconceived
notion of how to carry yourself or how to act
or how to be. And I'm not saying that's true
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for everyone, but I do think that it often becomes
a reflection of how l A people act in an actuality.
Those of us who are who are born and raised here,
we're hippies, you know, most of us are free spirits.
You know, we we vibrate and on like a chill level.
We're easy going, we're probably overly loving to the point
of where sometimes I think we annoy people from New
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York because they're like, you know, you cannot be serious,
you cannot be serious right now, and you're like, no,
I just want to make sure you're okay, and like,
you know, let's talk on Tuesday. You want to go
somewhere and I just make you ten minutes ago, but hey,
let's talk about life. You know, that's a that's a
true story. I think that, especially like growing up here.
I can remember a few times I went to U C.
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L A. And I can remember a fo times there.
There are all these parties where and they were house
parties that I last big on house parties. I try
to explain that to people, talk about that's what we do.
It's not a club scene, but a bomb house party,
like a real firehouse party is where we hang out
and where we live. And they don't understand that when
we when I try to, like, I was like, house
parties are the ship. Yeah, I mean it's so crazy
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because I didn't realize that that's more of an l
A thing. But now that you're saying it, it it totally
makes sense to me. But yeah, we just like a
good vibe. We like to like not always have to
get dressed up, hang out by the pool, have some
good conversations of life, or just like have a party
that's just like going off and you did get dressed up,
but it's like you with all your friends that you
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grew up around, are people that you know him for
like years and years and years, and everybody really wants
to dance and have a good time. And you know
it doesn't have to be like overly expensive. You've got
the red cups and you're just chilling, you know, like
for real, Like that's exactly how we hang out. I
think I'm glad that you're saying that because I do
try to explain that to people and we get um,
you know, people just feel away and I and I do.
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I do feel like that. I'm like, we're not fake,
we're legitimately genuine when we're from here, and you have
to catch the vibe otherwise you miss it. There's something
that I and then I'll talk about this. Um. The
part of what I think is is beautiful about how
you move is that we know that you love the
Lord and that you're a Christian. But there there is
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it's not to be mutually exclusive, to be beautiful, sexy,
play a role that may not be who you are
a bit of a departure, but still say, I love
the Lord. How do you reconcile the two? I think
for me? You know, I got say when I was thirteen,
and at that time, I was like a very religious Christian,
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like very Bible something. I cried when my sister lost
her virginity and told her I didn't want her to
go to hell, like yeah. And then you know, as
I've grown with the Lord and I've gotten to know
him and I started to have real conversations with him
that weren't based on being religious or an ideal, but
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we're based on really getting to know him and really
hearing him for myself. Is when I started having conversations
with him, Like when I was nineteen, was the first
time I was like, wait, Lord, I've been acting like
since I was a kid. I never even asked you
if this is what I should be doing, or like
if this is the life that you have for me.
And I got to a place where I was like,
I'm just gonna put it on the altar and I
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give it to you, and if you want me to
do this, then I will do it. But I want
what you want for me more than what I think
I want for myself. And that was the first time
that I got confirmation that this is the industry that
I should be in, and this is the job that
I should be doing, but that is bigger than me.
And using this platform to glorify him, however, how I
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glorify him as unique to who I am. He made
me all of who I am, from the way that
I think, to the way that I speak, to the
way that I look, to the passions that are in
my heart, the things that I desire to accomplish. He
gave me all of those things. And so when something
is off kilter or not in alignment, he lets me
up and I also ask. And when something is in alignment,
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it doesn't have to make sense to everybody else, but
I know in my spirit that I'm doing what I'm
supposed to be doing. And um for me, I don't
feel that I'm necessarily called to the church in that
way I feel the church, but I'm I'm called two
the world in the sense of you can only light
up the only light can light up dark spaces. Light
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doesn't need to light up light because it's already lit.
You have to go into dark spaces and you have
to be relatable in an authentic way in order to
build the kingdom. And for me, I know, I relate
to who relates to me, you know, and people who
feel you know, left out, or people who feel judged
or criticized or misunderstood or whatever it might be. I
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immediately connect with those spirits. And not even because I'm
trying to. We're just like kindred tribe, you know, And
that's what God has called me too, And so I
just try to really make it about not having a
religious mindset. But like, Lord, what do you say if
you say I'm good and I'm good, and when anybody
else has to say about it, that's not my tribe.
But those who get it get it, and those um
(20:12):
who don't don't. That's okay. You know, that's a sermon
in itself. Those who wouldn't get it in those who
don't don't, And that's not your work to make those
who don't understand to get it. Like, that's not what
you're supposed to be doing. But you said something that
I thought was really interesting. You've got confirmation. What was
the confirmation? Did they come in a role did you
hear God saying do you move this way? Or was
(20:32):
it a combination of a few things. Um, it was
a confirm It was the confirmation was a few different things.
But the main thing was because I hear God in
different ways, especially as I've gotten older, I hear him
a lot more crisp and clear. Um. But at that time,
when I was about nineteen, I just felt like a
settling in my spirit, and I felt like God saying, like, yes,
(20:55):
this is right. But then I also felt like a
curiosity of like him placing on my spirit, but like
that's not it, Like this is not the bottom line,
that's not the answer. And so when I you know,
as I went along through my twenties, I just felt
got in certain seasons saying I'm gonna reveal it to you.
I'm gonna reveal it to you, but you'll know it
as you experience it, and you'll feel it. And so
(21:18):
when I connected with younger women, when I connected with
people who have been through things that I've been through
that I haven't necessarily spoken about publicly yet and one
day I will whenever God tells me that he wants
me to. But um, when I connected with just like
outcast and people who just feel left out, especially of
left out of the church or left out of whatever
(21:38):
it may be. My whole life, I've been set up
for that. I grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood.
I dealt with a ton of bullying, a ton of racism,
and that kind of stuff continued as I got into
the industry, continued after I got married, continued after just
certain seasons in my life. So I realized that that's
actually a part of my calling and I'm set up
to to be. They are in a way as as
(22:02):
kind of a light that like you're good, you know,
if you are being challenged in that way to know
that got its something really really special for you. And
he does give the toughest battles to his strongest soldiers,
and he does have purpose, and every bad thing that
happens seemingly bad, you know. Um, So yeah, I just
kind of felt in every season, I feel like it
(22:22):
gets revealed to me a little bit more. He gives
the toughest battles to the soldiers. He knows I can
handle it. By the way, that's a word for somebody
myself specifically, especially if you're going through something something something. Hey,
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welcome back to you naked. We have the beautiful, talented
making good still here hanging out with us. You talked
about being bullied. So I read and this is and
by read, I mean my researchers shout out to Henry
and Peyton. They said that you grow up in Panorama
or born in Panorama, but group in Santa Claria, which
(23:24):
is was canyon country, and you talked about being bullied.
Is that accurate? Those those those places, okay? And what
did bullying look like? And and why were you bullied?
That's interesting, Uh, mainly for being black. I would have
people like in the neighborhood tell me like, oh, you're
not supposed to be here. I had a neighbor's Um,
(23:46):
I couldn't walk past the sidewalk, I couldn't set flip
on their property at all. UM. I had a fifth
grade teacher who hit me. UM. I had a sixth
grade teacher who was constantly like sending me to the
off this and like picking on me. I had seventh
grade teacher told me I wouldn't make it as an
actress and that I wasn't very pretty. Um. And then
(24:07):
there were just girls in school that were hell bent
on it, just like you know, touching my hair and um,
a few fights that I got into or like those
girls tried to restrain me. Why somebody else tried to
beat me up? Just stuff here and there a lot
of the N word being thrown around by people who
are not black. Um. Yeah, it was just a lot
(24:30):
of like racism, you know, or like I mean to
the point of like someone getting out of the pool
because you're in pool. You know, that's trading. That's you know,
for you to say that. And I would think, especially
growing up in California, southern California, I couldn't identify racism overtly.
(24:51):
And maybe you have because you know, look, I grew
in Pasadena and I was in l A a a lot,
but maybe you had to be further out in neighborhoods
where there were no blacks right for you to be
be able to see it, because I feel like it's
really hidden here, not so much as of late, but
I feel like it's hidden and for you to experience that,
um of course as an adult outside looking at it
just you know, sounds like jealousy, Like people were jealous
(25:12):
and they didn't want you to succeed when you realized
when did you realize, more specifically that you had a
talent and that people like looking at your face and
that you were beautiful and you and you were set apart.
And by the way, that's an ongoing lesson, I'm sure,
but I'm just saying, we're like, when when did you
(25:34):
know know that you're like, I'm I'm I'm set here
to do this. One moment was that I think I
always wasn't. I don't know why I was such a
confident kid. I always had an attitude of like, you
don't see it, but I'll show you one day, you know.
But I also kind of had that insecurity of like
(25:55):
you know, nobody really looked like me where I grew
up except for my sister and my mother, and it
was always like, well, maybe I should look like this,
maybe I should look like that, or I have a
question this boy, but he doesn't like me because I'm black,
or because i'm my hair because of this or whatever.
And so there was always like the insecurity, but like
the overconfidence kind of like messing with each other always.
And I think, um in terms of acting, like, you know,
(26:19):
I wanted to be like a good dancer, like be
on the dance team or be a cheerleader, and I
just none of those things I would ever make and
I would never get chosen. And so acting for me
was really kind of an outlet in a place where
I could find something that I had ownership over and
I felt confident doing. And it wasn't until probably until
(26:39):
I was around like sixteen seventeen that I started realizing
that what you do in the world is directly connected
to how God wants to use you in some way,
you know. And so that's when I started being intentional
about like, Okay, well I'm not gonna into this, I'm
not going to do that. And then I think around team.
(27:00):
Was the first time that I realized this is I
get to be here. You know, I'm a good actress,
but like there, you know, there's million great actresses. I'm
a pretty girl, but there's a million pretty girls. I
get to take up space here because God has allowed
me to take up space here. And because of that,
I know that it's bigger than me. And it's not
(27:23):
about being a celebrity or being famous or whatever that means.
It's about using what He's given me as part of
my purpose and using it in the world however he
instructs me to. And so yeah, I think that was
the around the time when I first started realizing it.
And then, like you said, it's been an ongoing progression.
You know. Of course, of course you have a show
(27:45):
out that I love, and I know that you have.
I mean, I don't know anybody who probably don running
up and you're like, listen, Harlem is everything. So it
was it's always to me on the outside looking in
a special moment when the actor gets the role that
is for them and they're put around the right people like,
to me, that has to be such beautiful chemistry and
(28:09):
destiny and luck and all the things have to come
together for it to be such a special show. Your
show is great. First episode, you guys give a shout
out to a to my partner, my television partner, Jamal Hill.
And then you guys, you have this role in which
everything you say is so real and so honest. I'm like, kudo,
So the writer's kudo. See you for executing. Because there's
(28:29):
so much that goes on behind it. Talk to me
about when Harlem came to you and you said, this
is it, I gotta do it or I had to
fight forward or whatever it was. What was the process
when they brought this project to you and you ultimately
decided to do it. Um, it's really interesting because TV
always scares me. It's such a big commitment. You know,
like a movie, you go, you shoot for like a
(28:52):
month to month, three months. If it's like a big
you know whatever DC and Marvel movie, you might be
a few months, but then you're done and but t
be you know, you work from like five to seven
to nine, you know, however many months and then if
the show continues to move on, you're doing that cycle
for years and years and years. And um, I'm very
(29:12):
much a nomad and a bit of a hippie. So
I don't always like that type of stability. It kind
of scares me. It's just like very committal and so
um with Harlan. Before I got the script of that,
I was like, you know what I would do TV
if I could find something that I love the people
I'm working with, I love the character. It's a character
(29:33):
I haven't played before, and I get to do like
some physical comedy, like some loose field ball comedy because
I haven't got a chance to really do any of
that stuff, you know. And I was like, that's what
I where I would want to live. And so when
Harlem came to me, I was like, oh my gosh,
like this is it, you know, as I met with
Tracy and then I thought, okay, cool, they'll call me
and you know, we'll do it. And I didn't hear
anything for two weeks and then I was like, well,
(29:55):
what's what's what's the latest with that? And they were like, oh,
they're auditioning people. And I was like for Camille and
they were like yeah, and I was like, oh, I
would like to audition, and you know, the feedback kind
of came back like they weren't sure if I was
right for her, and I was like okay, and I
was like got it. I was like, can we just
get me in the room and like, just give me
(30:17):
a chance to show them who I think she is.
And so I went in, you know, tested for it. Um.
Didn't hear anything for another two weeks and no, no,
this damned business. Um. But then when I did get
the call, I remember I was at mama Shelter on
(30:37):
like buying streets something like that, and I just like
cried and I was like so happy because I was like,
you know, after thirty years in the business, I can
still change people's minds, you know, and I can still
surprise people, and I can still show them that there's
so much more left for me to do that I
haven't even touched the tip of the iceberg. I feel
(31:00):
like I have such a far way to go, even
though in a lot of ways I'm a vet. I
still feel like, you know, we're growing every day just
as human beings with our experiences and so UM, it
was super gratifying, not just to get the role, but
to prove to someone like that there's something else in
there and and yeah, so this is it, this is it,
(31:22):
Whether you I mean, I'm telling me, I don't know
what it is, but it really sets you apart and
it is special and it hits home and it and
I know I'm not the only person to tell you that,
but like you know, you group chats when you got
the group chats like you did, y'all see what happened
when and a boyfriend came and he had a girlfriend
and he engaged? How dare he be engaged? How dare
(31:43):
he be engaged? Can I talk to the writers? Mhm?
Because it's been juicy already waged on this official word
for season two, but it's a it's looking juicy already.
I am more than happy for you, and I know
you have to get out of here. UM. I want
to know if you have anything that you're working on
outside of Harlem. I'm sure um that you want to
(32:04):
tell everybody about. UM. I have a movie with Jamie
Fox coming out this year for Netflix called Day Shift. Um.
It's a vampire playing comedy. Okay, I'm excited about vampire
for me, it's like bucket this my nineties kids, so
you know, Um, and then I just did the sequel.
She's am uh too, so she's am fey with guys,
(32:27):
that comes out next year, and got a few other
things in the work they can't talk about yet, but
it's it's it's been a challenging and rough year and
it's also been an amazing year. You know. It isn't
interesting how that works. They go hand in hand, don't they.
I can't relate. I can because you can feel the
(32:47):
chains following, but you also see breakthrough and then use
this all these different emotions that you're feeling, And I
just want you to know that you are inspiring however
you want to inspire, however, whatever energy you're putting in
the universe. Um, there are people who are looking at you.
Do it so eloquently and so effortlessly, and it's encouraging,
(33:07):
right with all respect, Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Thank you guys so much for listening to Naked. I
appreciate it. I know in the beginning I was preaching,
but I appreciate you listening for the preach, or at
least fast forwarding only through some parts. Making good check
out her show. It is amazing. It's funny um for me.
(33:28):
Like I said, it's the equivalent of a better version
of a young sex in the City, but with a
lot of brown girls. It's awesome. It's honest. I mean,
way too honest. I'm like, wait, have I been in
that situation? I think I have. I'm glad to see
that she has so much going on. You have to remember,
Megan was the one that was in Um the Bayou movie,
(33:49):
Come on, y'all help me out. I had it here
ready to go and share it with y'all. But she
was a kid in that movie. And I remember thinking,
look at this, and I don't know how old she was,
twelve year old girl, but she's super beautiful. Eves By
you you know that. I was like, gosh, she's beautiful
and she had that that genes squal then. And so, Megan,
if you're listening, I'm sitting you love and light and
(34:11):
I am so happy for your success and I only
hope that at the end of the day, outside of
the success, that you have peace. Thank you guys for
listening to Naked. See y'all next week.
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