June 19, 2023 • 41 mins
Angie Stone is a singer, songwriter, actress, and a legend in her own right. You may remember her song, “Brotha” an anthem to uplift our brothers, sons, and fathers. Angie Stone has been consistent with creating art that aligns with her soul, black love, and culture. Her new album, "Love Languages" is now available!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're angry, you can write something for my angry
stance because you pull from that end. And just like
being an act, in order to get great, you have
to cry at will. If you can quiet will is
because you're able to internalize pain to the point that
you can tap in on what it is you're trying
(00:20):
to get to. It is the same process with the rioting,
and you can tap into what it is you're trying to.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Today on the podcast you heard her. It is the singer, songwriter, actress.
She's done it all. Legendary Angie Stone. Hope you enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
If it's the greatest disperse in entertainment, connect you putting
Kerry Champion and carry CHAPPI is to be a champion,
a champion and carry Chappion. Got a champion and carry Champion.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And carry Champion.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Everybody, thank you so much for joining another edition of Naked.
Before I get into the details of my next guest,
which is Angie Stone, the legend that she is, I
must update you all on something and I'm working with
a group of people from the community to really really
bring more attention to the story of a mother of
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four who was shot and killed by her neighbor in Florida.
The gun violence in this country is insane, but in
Florida it hits different because of everything that is happening
in that particular state culturally, with the politics, with the obsession.
I believe with the right to bear arms, it is
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your right, but recklessly should not be also your right.
The story, if you haven't heard, is about aj Owens, again,
a black mother of four children. She was shot and
killed following the few that she had with her neighbor.
Apparently the neighbor, who is white, was someone who did
not like her children playing in a field that was
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adjacent to her home. So aj Owens's children were playing,
one of them left their iPad in the field. They
went back to grab the iPad, and apparently the neighbor,
the white, older woman, had took the iPad into her home,
and when the kids knocked on the door and asked
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to retrieve it, the woman threw the iPad and or
something at the children, and obviously the child went back
told his mom, Hey, the neighbor threw something at me.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The mom aj Owens went to confront the neighbor and
she was shot through the front door. The door was
locked she knocked on the door to say, hey, I'd
like to talk to you. Why in the world did
you throw something at h you adult woman? And the
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woman refused to open the door. She just opened fire.
Here's the rub. Apparently, this woman was often fighting with neighbors,
particularly black neighbors in this particular community, and she had
major issues with aj Owens and her children because she
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didn't want them playing in a field net to her home.
And the story has gone viral. There's a go fund
me that has been set and people from all over
are reaching out. There's just no way in my world
a mother who is trying to protect their children, or
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their child more specifically, should be shot and killed through
a locked door because she wants to confront the woman
who assaulted her child. And again we're speaking in alleged
terms because she had yes to be convicted. But according
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to all reports, this fifty eight year old woman who
lives adjacent to this field has been a problem. The
story is disgusting, it is unfortunate, and I ask you
to pay attention to it. You don't necessarily have to
donate to the GoFundMe, but to spread the word. The
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vigilante justice has to stop. It just does the fact
that I'm telling you that a thirty five year old
mother of four was shot and killed for trying to
discuss what happened with her child is ridiculous. And the
State of Florida will tell you she was standing her
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ground because that is a law that we're very familiar with.
Usually the victims are marginalized, they're black and brown, and
in this case, it as this thirty five year old
mother of four. And you will hear people say she
was trespassing by knocking on the door, that there was
a few that was long time between the two. But
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the level of violence and or aggression that aj Owens
was met with, to me, is just not justified. And
I ask you to get active and get activated and
be involved in whatever way that looks like for you,
because it's disgusting and that is my opinion. With that
being said, we're doing a hard turn, I am. I'm
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introducing our next guest, who is a trailblazer. She is
a pioneer in her own right and a legend. My goodness,
what other words can I use to describe one? Angie Stone.
She has a new album, Love Language. It was just
released last month, and she worked with Music Soul Child
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on this album in one particular scene called the Gym.
He was featured on her her second album that she
ever did. She has ten albums single solo albums Mahogany
Soul and she worked for Music Soul Child then. And
she has her son, believe it or not, on this
latest album, a son that she had with D'Angelo, which
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I did not know. Shout out to the researchers on
the Naked podcast, because I did not know her and
DiAngelo were a thing, nor did I know they produced
a child, a child who is a rapper in his
own right and creative in his own right, and is
also featured on this album. I asked Angie about her career,
her trajectory, the genesis, the origin story, which I love,
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uh and you know, she's a true og about it.
She talks about what she likes and what she doesn't like,
and she's very matter of fact. And I can't help
but respect people who are just that matter of fact.
Sit back and relax. Listen to one Angie Stone and
(07:02):
you so thank you so much for joining Naked. I
really appreciate this. It is a podcast where I get
to interview people that I admire, I enjoy, that are
doing amazing things, and it just so happens that you
have most recently released I believe it's your tenth solo album.
I'm not. I'm making sure it's the tenth. I'm trying
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it on to great tell us about your latest project,
and more importantly, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Thank you. Thank you first of all guys for having me.
This project is one that I really was not anticipating. However,
we did it, turned it around in a two week span,
worked very hard, very quick, very hard, and really you
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know when we were When I work under that kind
of pressure, that's kind of when the best stuff comes
out because you you have no time to screw it up.
You got to get it right or you know. So,
I'll say, along with Candice base more Teak Underdo, Walter
Real Sap, and quite a few other producers, we churned
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out some really dope songs that make for a very
consistent album. So I'm in a good place with this project.
Oh good for you, But I want to make sure
I heard you correctly. You turned it around in two weeks.
How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I could imagine you have a bevy of songs,
or you've written so much, I know that it might
just come out.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The song that you hear is what we worked on.
Maybe two didn't make the project because we just ran
out of time and couldn't finish something. But we had
exactly two weeks. My manager flew in town. We were
in the studio for upteen hours doing one two songs
a night, sometimes just to finish the album two weeks,
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so it was a flat two weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wow, that's impressive. But you I have very much created
a name for yourself in terms of who you've worked
with in this industry. You've written, you've you've been an actor,
You've had your solo projects that you were a part of.
From my understanding, the very first hip hop R and
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B group in Sequence signed to sugar Hill. So tell me,
if you don't mind, just go back to the genesis
of it all. Tell me about Sequence and how that
all came about.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
My Sequence is myself, my partner, Blondie and Charlottequarrel, who
were all high school friends in neighborhood sisters that hung
out together, ended up going to club's part Cheerers, did
a lot of things together and as a result of
hanging out with you besties on a regular basis, we
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started to create this stuff because that's cheerleaders. We were
constantly writing rhymes, and you know, what was effectually known
as cheers back then turned into rap music. I guess
New York called it rap. We call it cheers and competition.
We won quite a few contests in South Carolina for
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having the best shiars. Our cheers were rhyme, a madic.
Pretty much of Yog was a song that we created
that had a hook, which was a melodic of chorus,
and we add individual raps to it, which coined the phrase.
You know, y'all could say R and B hip hop
or how you want to call it, but we added
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singing to hip hop and as a result, it changed
the narrative overall. So as a result, I believe that
hip hop grew wings and I went to the next
generation as something that was getting smaller, growing bigger, and
spreading broader, and as a result, you know, it's what
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you have today. So it's all often a lot of
controversy on who was the first to do what, but
I think that everybody had a first moment in their
life and their career. We just haded the the only
felale hip hop that had an original rap record at
the time that came out and set the.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Tall of the uh uh and be ladies that followed
you said it was a cheer and any black girl
knows like you been like when you cheer. I never
ever thought, because I was a cheerleader, especially for Pop Warner,
I would have never considered a rap. But that's exactly
what it was.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It was cheer. Punk You up was a cheer that
we're gonna blow you right on out. We're gonna blow
you right on up. Get up, get up, get up,
get up back now. It was a cheer. And then
we said, funk you right on upna funk up that
chiney to a song calling a delic What's happened to
be the hottest group at the time, and the word
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funk was wiggie and phone. Those were the words back
in the day. So we used to follow you up.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I love it, I love it all. And then outside
of that, that's establishing yourself in the world where you
are a pioneer. People are respecting your voice, your sound.
I'd like to know more about the writing of it,
because I've read in my research that you felt like
writing and acting in poetry was your first love and
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singing was.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, that was coming that well. You know, as an
English major, I loved English. Actually write pulling rhymes. I
think we all did part of what we became as
hip hop that you had to be able to write
your rhymes and all of that. That was something that
we did at sugar Hill Records. We as a group,
we went there. We started on songs for the sugar
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Hill Gang, for the sequence for the West Great Mop.
A lot of what you hear from that early days
of hip hop, a lot of it was written by
the sequence Apache Eighth Wonder and West Sheet's mod Ness Dance.
All those songs were coined by a blondie shrilling myself.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Wow, Wow, that's powerful. And you say it so matter
of factly, like you like, yeah, just tomorrow, But that
is powerful. If you look at the industry today, do
you see your influence still?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, when I look at the mgry, I see definitely
see our influence. When Lauren Hill came about, that was
the greatest compliment that we could have got it because
she took roberta Flax song is she fused it with
hip hop, and she took the actual body of hip
hop and singing and married them together to make one
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of the greatest rat records ever made a bout female ever,
and that was following the trend that we had already set.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Now and shout out to Lauren Hill, who performed most
recently at the Roots Picnic. It was a beautiful reunion.
I'm one of the legends of our time in a
voice that narrates many of our lifestyles. You yeah, so like,
let me tell you about Brown Sugar. I want to know.
I want to know all that you wrote with DiAngelo,
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because Brown Sugar I remember it changing by GAMEA, you
know what I mean. Like for everybody, I was like, well,
what is this we're listening to? I remember a bunch
of me and my girlfriends jumped into a car and
tried to go down to the local radio station just
to meet DiAngelo because this music was so soulful. It
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spoke to our spirit and I'm like, oh, my girl
wrote as if we're best friends songs here.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's fault funder because D'Angelo uh, just just a credit
to himself, his brother Luther Archer, and d Angelo was
primarily responsible for writing a lot of brown sugar. As
a matter of fact, when I met DiAngelo, I was
confused with that whole vibe because we were excited to
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work for each other. I ended up writing Jones and
My Bones on that first out, So you know, every
Day was a song that I wrote. Die was a
song that I wrote with him. More accordingly, I got
to work very closely with him in the studio when
he was was cruising, uh, when we get by songs
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that would embody a presence, energy, a vibe. We went
on to do the next hour and I did Spanish Joint,
I did a Great Day in the Morning, I did Africa,
I did send it on. You know, these are the
songs that I were writing with him when he started
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to evolb and people started to look for what was next.
We grew up Great Day in the morning. Like I said,
We went on to do play for the cartoon soundtrack
with Michael Jordan, with Bugs, Buddy and all of it
was just a pleathor of opportunities to do stuff, And
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it was hard to do Vertical Hole, which was my
D'Angelo and whatever else they had for me slately to do.
I was spreading myself for then I had worked on Canther,
I had worked with Usher and Monica on this, straining
it out of the panic strack. So I was kind
of me pulled to and fro at a time when
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you know, music was evolving in a whole other way.
And we're just grateful that I was factored into that
whole neo soul by. But I have to give credit
where credit and do Luther Archer and the Angelo who
are brothers. They did the soundtrack of Jason's lyric. You
will know we came right behind that and did a
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Freedom for the Joy with girls all the women, So
you know, I was part of that whole movement and
Raphaelsa did you know there was a handful of us
that kind of played in that playground together. So uh,
but it's safe to say, uh Ne'angelo was pretty pretty
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formed and well shaped by the time I met him.
I would only enhance what he was already doing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Let me ask you a question. When you write, and
we'll get into obviously your solo career, but when you write,
what do you where do you go to write? What
is the mood, what is the occasion? How do you
do it?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
When I write, I go to the core of my
own emotion, because anything that you do is attached to
an emotion. Be a good bet or indifferent in emotion, nonetheless,
is what fuse the fire. If you're angry, you can
write something for my angry stance because you pull from
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that end. And just like being an act, in order
to get great, you have to cry at will. If
you can quiet will is because you're able to internalize
pain to the point that you can tap in on
what it is you're trying to get to. It is
the same process with the rioting, and you can tap
into what it is you're trying to gain.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So wait, so does do they come to you and say,
and I'll use the angel as an example. Hi, I
need some dope neo soul music and only you can
do it. Or is it like I need a love
song to tell the ladies how I feel? Or what
what is the directive? I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Okay, there is no real direction on what you need.
More than likely people think when they hear one hit song,
nine to nine hit songs from that same person because
the one whenever you opening matter WI be touched in paper,
it's gonna come out break. That is not the case. Okay,
sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. But normally when
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they say and I need you to write a song, okay,
it all depends on who the groundwork is. Lay you
get in a track that it moves me in a
certain way. I can write something in a certain way.
But if you if you got one element working and
then the other element not working, it's gonna be a
sale marriage. If that makes it as sisty, it has
to be a work up of marriage. It's almost virtually
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impossible to take a dood track and make it dope.
Oh wow, now you got a really dope track. It's easy.
But if you don't have a dope track, you can't
make something dood dope.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, you're like, I don't think it can't work that
kind of magic. So then you are a solo artist
and you have a career and you are your own.
And I always find it interesting I think of artists
like even a Missy Elliott for that matter, who was like,
I never really wanted to be in front of the camera.
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I only wanted to write. And Sylvia rons to me, right,
I mean be in front of the camera. When you
become an artist and everything is about you what is different?
What is different than being the writer when you're performing.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, when you become the artist, you become an anime,
become a character. You put yourself in a position that Okay,
I'm stepping out of being who I was born to be,
like a regular first. Now I've got to put on
this persona that I am greater than life. And the
reason I say that is because you know, when you
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dream of being a superstar, you have an envision in
your mind that superstar sways her arms out. If you're
a dancer, you kick your legs out and you do that.
You know what, It's all in the interpretation of what
you feel that a star is. Then there's some people
you know who is social is like Beyonce. When she
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wants to go there, she has to go into this
whole you know, animated character is caapcuzation that allows you
to believe that she's somebody different. Yeah. So, you know,
for an artist, that's just somebody that is feeling good
about themselves. You lose yourself and your gift and when
you do that, you kind of just explode. Now you're
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able to act alive, you able to act out loud,
You're able to personifide this thing, it says, this is
how I want you to sing. If I want to
be down down ross the balls, want to give you
that energy that I am in charge, lodge to the yard.
So I love it's all a part of your persona.
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I love it you act out the persona that you are.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That is so true for anybody who's performing, whether you're
a singer or not. Okay, you know what time it is,
pay bills. That is what we have to do. What
you can do is fast forward past the commercials because
I know there are plenty hit that at fifteen or
thirty second. Forward button and we'll be right back with
Angie Stone.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Every champion, every champion is to be a champion, a
champion and carry Chappion and carry chap beata champion and
carry Chappion and Carrie chap.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Entertainment.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Can n neck you work.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Kerry Champion and Carrie Chappion is to be a champion
of Champion and Carrie Chappie and a champion and carry
Chapion and Carrie Chpy.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Word. Angie Stone still here with us talking to me
about the difference. Very few, I think, but the difference
between being a singer performer and an actress performer. I
hope you all enjoy Angie Stone, I read and you
can tell me if this is true or not. Clive Davis,
(22:48):
when you guys work together, Clive had what is now
a hit, a hit record or a hit single. Uh,
he wanted to put this hit single on one of
on your album and you didn't like it? What tell me?
How goes? How do we collaborate and decide? All right, fine,
all right, Clive, I'm going to listen to you and
I don't really like this though, Well that's kind of me.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If I don't like it, I'm gonna be painfully honest.
I didn't like the song, one of the songs on
this album. And you know, it's almost like for me
when I say I don't like something, me gets everybody
gassed up because when they know it's a hit. I
would like the song because I was finished my album.
This was I was getting ready to wrap and mix
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and master the album in five both and you know
I found the song that you I'm like, I don't
want to give a more song, don't my album? I'm done?
So when he plays I don't even like the song.
It was a wish I didn't miss you, and he
was like, and you have to do the song. And
I just did not want to do the song, not
so much because I didn't like it. I wasn't that
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fond of it. But I was done with my album, Like,
why are you making me go and do another song?
I just wanted it to be done already. Yeah, say
a thing with this album. I didn't want to do
kiss You, kiss You, and they like, I said my manager, Walt,
really don't want to do the song and he said,
edgic all the reason more. Now you gotta do the song.
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I said, please, I'm going to tell you. I had
a long sit down with it Ben and not feeling
the song. And he said, okay, just do me a favor,
just finish the song for me. And I'm like, but
I don't. I really don't like the song. And I mean,
I was dead serious. Uh, And he told me. He says, okay,
I get it. If you don't like it, why it's so,
(24:38):
but I'll take it off a junior paper, go in
there and nail that. Rec just do that. And I said,
all right. It was like pulling teeth. I finally got that. Uh,
ooh boy on it and see I was so outdone
with that part. Who wait you ooh? And he says,
why don't you like? I said, I just hate that
ooh boy yu because that's not now say and uh.
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They laughed at me and laughed at me. So when
they dropped a single, and when I first played Girls
in the Back of the Car, it's like, oh, that's
my favorite, that's my favorite. I looked around like you
got it. I was like, you have got to be
kidding me. So I called up my man and I
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said this and that this, and he just bust out laugh.
He said, you wait, you can see what happened and
lower and the hold. Everybody was going bananas over kiss you,
kiss you, kish you?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
What does that say?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Why moves that? When I say it's a bad record,
it just hit record.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I don't know how I feel about that. I have it.
I can't process that because I would think as an artist,
you would know what's going to work.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I think I know, but I did. I absolutely loved
good Man and I had I was like, Okay, y'all
can pick all of this, but I and this is
what I wouldn't do. And they're looking at him like, oh, hell,
now it's proven that way. Man, she might be right. Okay,
wait a minute, what the man just went for a
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million this and that, and now that I'm like, but
I know what I'm doing. Sometimes, Probably I don't like
a record doesn't mean it's a bad record. It just
means that you might want to give it a second
thought because she said she don't like it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Probably, Oh that is That really is funny. The irony
of what it's the truth?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And you ask anybody and I can't. They will tell.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You it's something to being maybe I don't even know
what it is. I want to say, maybe being a
little too critical on yourself. I couldn't quite describe it.
I do oh yeah, yeah, I am that you're hard
on yourself?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Right, I hate it every vocal on this album. I
knew it was about the cry didn't want to put
a record out because I thought I sounded like crap.
And I'm like, I'm just not there anymore? Why do I?
And now I can't. I'm laying it over and over
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because I'm like, you know, my song was even looking
at me crazy and I'm like, I kind of bit
this vaffle. Now he said, I know me too, so
it kind of grew on us.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, it takes a while, but I will say that
speaking of your son, he is a rapper and is
that correct me if I'm wrong? This is the son
you have with D'Angelo and he is on the current
album correct?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, he's dope though, he got it all stuff and
he's bananas what?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay? So how does that work? Does he come in
into a feature? Is he sitting in studio with you?
Or he already writes it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And y'all in the studio. See, he was in the studio.
Took me over there and my manner and Mike, can
you put a verse on this for me? And he
wrote it and did it and wanted to tape. Didn't
even ask me the one that made it up. I mean,
he was already on it out like okay.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I love that. Well, congratulations for your artists. That is special.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That is really special and it's always nice to see
that it's in the DNA right and it finds in
different ways. That is an accomplishment. I know you must
be proud.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Can I talk to you about acting because you spend
some time on Broadway, which I feel is and I
go back and forth between New York and LA And
every time I go to Broadway or I watch you play,
I'm like, that is so difficult. I could not imagine.
Is there anything difference between acting and singing?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
For you?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Which one is more difficult?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, it all depends on the script the role. Singing
is obviously easier because I've had a whole lot more
experience with that, and each time when you add a
melody to a lyric, the memory is locked and loaded. Acting,
on the other hand, is all memory. You have got
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to really put your mind to work. I did, uh
the what's the play women of Color? Oh? God, I
can't think of the Oprah Winfrey colored women? Huh Color? Yeah?
I did that now. It was Missus Purple, and it
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was written so difficult. I honestly didn't think I could
pull it off. And when I pulled that off, I
knew I was ready for the same. It was so
intricate and difficult. It was almost like something I never seen,
like Shakespeare, and I had to actually memorize like these
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all these lines. I just finished a series called Whole
Fate h E A u X that's on True TV.
That's actually good, and of course you've seen me on
in the cut of the girl Friends. I think quite
a few little vies. So it's kind of fun when
you have to create a new character that is not you.
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Most of the characters that be getting lady if people
want me to add my sense of humor to it,
which is easy, but you know, try getting a character
that does not embody your sense of humor and you've
got to really create a role for this person. It's difficult, yeah,
but it's because if you can master that or that that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
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champion and Kerry Champion and carry chat Champion and carry
Chappion and carry chap Entertainment and make.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It work Kerry Champion and.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Then carry Chappion is to be a champion of Champion
and Carrie Chappie and the Champion and carry Sheppion and
Carrie chap Entertainment.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Getting get working on.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Have you ever done a project you talk about Shakespeare?
I listened i college. I too was an English major,
and they used to try to make us recite Shakespeare.
I was like, I don't have it. I didn't do
well in that class barely ce c clubs Linus whatever
it was I had, But have you ever done something
in terms of your acting career and said this is
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this is excellent because it's hard for people who are
very creative and very talented and ambitious to step outside
of what they did and said that I did that.
Is there a project that you worked on and was like,
I did that?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah? I mean I thought I did. When I did
the show Girl Friends, did I was? I played a
character called Dalla Mace. I think that I nailed it
right on the edge. I thought it was brilliant. I
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think the one that I did for Color Girls Is
was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Uh, it was just and a very artsy piece of
work that you know, everybody had to be on the point.
I worked with Robin Gibbons, and you know, it was
just in a chanse to script and you really had
to be focused to pull it off. And I studied
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real hard and made it happen. So good for you.
I'm the first person, though, if I feel like a
script demanding thing that I'm unable to give out. Yeah,
like I'm all say, unlikely something I really want to do,
But I feel like a blue a dropped the ball.
I want audition for it?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Good for you?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Now what Tavia Spencer used to read for When I
lived in California. She and I used to be neck
and neck at all of our auditions. It was myself
Olivia and it was someone else's. So the minute I
left California and moved back South O, Nivia got the
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best role of her life and that was the one
she played with. She had the pie and she had arrived,
her break came and I'm like that point role, you know.
But I mean it was good to see her get
there because every time I went to the audition, I
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was like, oh wow, I got to go up against
Octavia Spencer. Oh god again again again. It was that
kind of thing, you know. So it was one of
those tactics where I was in great company and I
used to get called to read for stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
How amazing is that? And by the way, that is true,
they bring the same person out. You're like, now you again?
Do I have to keep seeing you everywhere?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Was it like that? Well, I I'm sorry, no, I
was gonna say, was it like that when you ran
into her in an audition room?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah? Because I knew anything that she was any time
she was there. We were reading for the same part.
I hate Hollywood, so I'd be like, but it makes
me that if I staying, I probably would have wound
up with her luck. I probably eventually got a role
that she no longer had an audition for that they
(34:36):
would have needed a new face for and they would
to see it. Let's try Andy Stone that I was
actually supposed to get a role that uh played a
woman from Ghana that it just elbow was in. Jill
Scott ended up getting the role, and I remember it
(34:57):
was coming to me and saying, you need to check
your team because Anthony, the guy that ended up passing
away the producer, uh, he let me know that the
role was yours. He had told him he really wanted
me to have the role. And Jill ended up getting
it because her team was just a little bit more
(35:18):
aggressive than mine and they fought. Whereas I had very
limited team players. She had a bunch of people that
were red in her corner. Shout out in Jill Scott.
They had a lot of people that were in her
corner and they just charted that great. It's just so
as a result, she ended up getting that role. Do
you think that.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I don't know what else there is in terms of
for you to do. But when you get to a
point of your career where you've had success and you
maintain and you have established yourself, what would it be
a next I'd like to try that? Or what would
be the next get that you want? Would you want?
I want to come back to LA and really go
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hard at acting. Is there something that's out there in
the ether that you're waiting to grab?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Well, my next is you know, if I had my way,
I would want to be like Harol Burnett because I
think that fascinating. She's probably one of the most creative
women in the game. I love the fact that she
ran her own ship at her own show. She trusted
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her own jokes, and I just feel like I'm a
leader like that. I want to be in a position
where I can drive the car. I think being a
visionary is key. Of course, I would love to come
back to LA, but I would love to push my
own show, and I'd like to see other people when
I don't necessarily have to be in it or a
(36:52):
part of it, but I really would like to see,
you know, other people come up because I know it's
a lot of child with people just right. Sure they
don't get the break.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
It's a tough it's a tough game. It's a tough
game out here in LA. It's a tough game. Okay.
So for everyone who wants to go out and support
your latest project, how do they find it? You can
get it on Apple one.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, all all platform the Angie Stone, the right one
is me with the black hat, you know, and then
I got one with my hands like this on my face.
That is the Instagram poster. That is the real Angiston.
All the old ones connected to old labels of people
that won't give up the hamp so they're confusing the issue.
(37:41):
But the latest one up one yes, okay, with your
hand B A N G, I E. S c O
and the b Angie Stone all platforms.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Hands are your face let me know, Okay, got it?
I want to make sure because my producer, Jacquess will
make sure that we put all that out there. Is
there anything else we should be promoting? I want to
thank you for your time. I know you have had
a day, so I wanted to get you in it.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's okay, I got a few more to go, but
all I just want to make sure that everybody knows
is that I'm working on my foundation, which is called
Angel Stripes. And what I do is I help elderly people, infants,
homeless families and infants. I made gift care packages. I've
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team of people that be going around to the senior
citizens volunteer in our time, making sure that they're okay,
entertaining them and just loving on them. I also have
a hot sauce that's coming out for brother Man Tacos
that I'm doing with young man by the name of Randy.
(38:50):
I'm excited about it and the hot sauce it's called
four hundred degrees and that's how four hundred years we've
been over Africa. The hot sauce is a the bolem Okay.
And now the last thing that I'm working on is
a television show or a streaming network called House of
(39:10):
Flay that I'm co hosting with music Soul Child Wi
Young and upcoming artist the opportunity to get out there
and be seen and you know, hopefully get their gifts
acknowledge by the world.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
And correct me if I'm wrong. Give music so Chi'll
work on this latest album with you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Music so Child worked on the single The Gem.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
With me, okay, I love him. I saw him performed
in my friend's wedding. Oh he's incredible, incredible, is incredible.
I love this Andre Stone. You're a legend, you are
a trailblazer and you are soul.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So I appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
And you look amazing. Don't you ever forget that either.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh wow, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, it's a pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I appreciate you guys so much. Welcome so pretty appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Thank you guys so much for listening. And remember, if
you want to support, which I think you should, you
can go to her socials find the latest album, The
Angie Stone. She said, there are a lot of random handles,
but she only has one that she approves of and
that's The Angie Stone. Hands on face, her words, not mine,
So please go out and support her. She has provided
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us with something that I think you can't really quantify.
Her saying that Lauren Hill was the epitome of the
music in which she created this neil So hip hop
ROBERTA Flack singing sound that she created initially with her
group sequence Lauren Hill, who we All Love is the
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epitome of what they were all trying to accomplish as
female artists, female black artist So again, go out and
support to that end. I know I asked you all
to pay attention to the store have one aj Owens
and if you have not, I urge you. If you
have not heard about this story, I ask you to Google,
to research to support the goal fund me to spread
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the word because this vigilanti justice just has to stop.
It really does, because usually it ends with them taking
the lives of someone that looks like me and you.
Thank you so much for listening to this edition of Naked.
Have a great day.
If you're angry, you can write something for my angry
stance because you pull from that end. And just like
being an act, in order to get great, you have
to cry at will. If you can quiet will is
because you're able to internalize pain to the point that
you can tap in on what it is you're trying
(00:20):
to get to. It is the same process with the rioting,
and you can tap into what it is you're trying to.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Today on the podcast you heard her. It is the singer, songwriter, actress.
She's done it all. Legendary Angie Stone. Hope you enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
If it's the greatest disperse in entertainment, connect you putting
Kerry Champion and carry CHAPPI is to be a champion,
a champion and carry Chappion. Got a champion and carry Champion.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And carry Champion.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Everybody, thank you so much for joining another edition of Naked.
Before I get into the details of my next guest,
which is Angie Stone, the legend that she is, I
must update you all on something and I'm working with
a group of people from the community to really really
bring more attention to the story of a mother of
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four who was shot and killed by her neighbor in Florida.
The gun violence in this country is insane, but in
Florida it hits different because of everything that is happening
in that particular state culturally, with the politics, with the obsession.
I believe with the right to bear arms, it is
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your right, but recklessly should not be also your right.
The story, if you haven't heard, is about aj Owens, again,
a black mother of four children. She was shot and
killed following the few that she had with her neighbor.
Apparently the neighbor, who is white, was someone who did
not like her children playing in a field that was
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adjacent to her home. So aj Owens's children were playing,
one of them left their iPad in the field. They
went back to grab the iPad, and apparently the neighbor,
the white, older woman, had took the iPad into her home,
and when the kids knocked on the door and asked
(02:26):
to retrieve it, the woman threw the iPad and or
something at the children, and obviously the child went back
told his mom, Hey, the neighbor threw something at me.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The mom aj Owens went to confront the neighbor and
she was shot through the front door. The door was
locked she knocked on the door to say, hey, I'd
like to talk to you. Why in the world did
you throw something at h you adult woman? And the
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woman refused to open the door. She just opened fire.
Here's the rub. Apparently, this woman was often fighting with neighbors,
particularly black neighbors in this particular community, and she had
major issues with aj Owens and her children because she
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didn't want them playing in a field net to her home.
And the story has gone viral. There's a go fund
me that has been set and people from all over
are reaching out. There's just no way in my world
a mother who is trying to protect their children, or
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their child more specifically, should be shot and killed through
a locked door because she wants to confront the woman
who assaulted her child. And again we're speaking in alleged
terms because she had yes to be convicted. But according
(04:06):
to all reports, this fifty eight year old woman who
lives adjacent to this field has been a problem. The
story is disgusting, it is unfortunate, and I ask you
to pay attention to it. You don't necessarily have to
donate to the GoFundMe, but to spread the word. The
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vigilante justice has to stop. It just does the fact
that I'm telling you that a thirty five year old
mother of four was shot and killed for trying to
discuss what happened with her child is ridiculous. And the
State of Florida will tell you she was standing her
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ground because that is a law that we're very familiar with.
Usually the victims are marginalized, they're black and brown, and
in this case, it as this thirty five year old
mother of four. And you will hear people say she
was trespassing by knocking on the door, that there was
a few that was long time between the two. But
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the level of violence and or aggression that aj Owens
was met with, to me, is just not justified. And
I ask you to get active and get activated and
be involved in whatever way that looks like for you,
because it's disgusting and that is my opinion. With that
being said, we're doing a hard turn, I am. I'm
(05:33):
introducing our next guest, who is a trailblazer. She is
a pioneer in her own right and a legend. My goodness,
what other words can I use to describe one? Angie Stone.
She has a new album, Love Language. It was just
released last month, and she worked with Music Soul Child
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on this album in one particular scene called the Gym.
He was featured on her her second album that she
ever did. She has ten albums single solo albums Mahogany
Soul and she worked for Music Soul Child then. And
she has her son, believe it or not, on this
latest album, a son that she had with D'Angelo, which
(06:18):
I did not know. Shout out to the researchers on
the Naked podcast, because I did not know her and
DiAngelo were a thing, nor did I know they produced
a child, a child who is a rapper in his
own right and creative in his own right, and is
also featured on this album. I asked Angie about her career,
her trajectory, the genesis, the origin story, which I love,
(06:41):
uh and you know, she's a true og about it.
She talks about what she likes and what she doesn't like,
and she's very matter of fact. And I can't help
but respect people who are just that matter of fact.
Sit back and relax. Listen to one Angie Stone and
(07:02):
you so thank you so much for joining Naked. I
really appreciate this. It is a podcast where I get
to interview people that I admire, I enjoy, that are
doing amazing things, and it just so happens that you
have most recently released I believe it's your tenth solo album.
I'm not. I'm making sure it's the tenth. I'm trying
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it on to great tell us about your latest project,
and more importantly, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Thank you. Thank you first of all guys for having me.
This project is one that I really was not anticipating. However,
we did it, turned it around in a two week span,
worked very hard, very quick, very hard, and really you
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know when we were When I work under that kind
of pressure, that's kind of when the best stuff comes
out because you you have no time to screw it up.
You got to get it right or you know. So,
I'll say, along with Candice base more Teak Underdo, Walter
Real Sap, and quite a few other producers, we churned
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out some really dope songs that make for a very
consistent album. So I'm in a good place with this project.
Oh good for you, But I want to make sure
I heard you correctly. You turned it around in two weeks.
How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I could imagine you have a bevy of songs,
or you've written so much, I know that it might
just come out.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The song that you hear is what we worked on.
Maybe two didn't make the project because we just ran
out of time and couldn't finish something. But we had
exactly two weeks. My manager flew in town. We were
in the studio for upteen hours doing one two songs
a night, sometimes just to finish the album two weeks,
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so it was a flat two weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wow, that's impressive. But you I have very much created
a name for yourself in terms of who you've worked
with in this industry. You've written, you've you've been an actor,
You've had your solo projects that you were a part of.
From my understanding, the very first hip hop R and
(09:17):
B group in Sequence signed to sugar Hill. So tell me,
if you don't mind, just go back to the genesis
of it all. Tell me about Sequence and how that
all came about.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
My Sequence is myself, my partner, Blondie and Charlottequarrel, who
were all high school friends in neighborhood sisters that hung
out together, ended up going to club's part Cheerers, did
a lot of things together and as a result of
hanging out with you besties on a regular basis, we
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started to create this stuff because that's cheerleaders. We were
constantly writing rhymes, and you know, what was effectually known
as cheers back then turned into rap music. I guess
New York called it rap. We call it cheers and competition.
We won quite a few contests in South Carolina for
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having the best shiars. Our cheers were rhyme, a madic.
Pretty much of Yog was a song that we created
that had a hook, which was a melodic of chorus,
and we add individual raps to it, which coined the phrase.
You know, y'all could say R and B hip hop
or how you want to call it, but we added
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singing to hip hop and as a result, it changed
the narrative overall. So as a result, I believe that
hip hop grew wings and I went to the next
generation as something that was getting smaller, growing bigger, and
spreading broader, and as a result, you know, it's what
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you have today. So it's all often a lot of
controversy on who was the first to do what, but
I think that everybody had a first moment in their
life and their career. We just haded the the only
felale hip hop that had an original rap record at
the time that came out and set the.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Tall of the uh uh and be ladies that followed
you said it was a cheer and any black girl
knows like you been like when you cheer. I never
ever thought, because I was a cheerleader, especially for Pop Warner,
I would have never considered a rap. But that's exactly
what it was.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It was cheer. Punk You up was a cheer that
we're gonna blow you right on out. We're gonna blow
you right on up. Get up, get up, get up,
get up back now. It was a cheer. And then
we said, funk you right on upna funk up that
chiney to a song calling a delic What's happened to
be the hottest group at the time, and the word
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funk was wiggie and phone. Those were the words back
in the day. So we used to follow you up.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I love it, I love it all. And then outside
of that, that's establishing yourself in the world where you
are a pioneer. People are respecting your voice, your sound.
I'd like to know more about the writing of it,
because I've read in my research that you felt like
writing and acting in poetry was your first love and
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singing was.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, that was coming that well. You know, as an
English major, I loved English. Actually write pulling rhymes. I
think we all did part of what we became as
hip hop that you had to be able to write
your rhymes and all of that. That was something that
we did at sugar Hill Records. We as a group,
we went there. We started on songs for the sugar
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Hill Gang, for the sequence for the West Great Mop.
A lot of what you hear from that early days
of hip hop, a lot of it was written by
the sequence Apache Eighth Wonder and West Sheet's mod Ness Dance.
All those songs were coined by a blondie shrilling myself.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Wow, Wow, that's powerful. And you say it so matter
of factly, like you like, yeah, just tomorrow, But that
is powerful. If you look at the industry today, do
you see your influence still?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, when I look at the mgry, I see definitely
see our influence. When Lauren Hill came about, that was
the greatest compliment that we could have got it because
she took roberta Flax song is she fused it with
hip hop, and she took the actual body of hip
hop and singing and married them together to make one
(13:41):
of the greatest rat records ever made a bout female ever,
and that was following the trend that we had already set.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Now and shout out to Lauren Hill, who performed most
recently at the Roots Picnic. It was a beautiful reunion.
I'm one of the legends of our time in a
voice that narrates many of our lifestyles. You yeah, so like,
let me tell you about Brown Sugar. I want to know.
I want to know all that you wrote with DiAngelo,
(14:09):
because Brown Sugar I remember it changing by GAMEA, you
know what I mean. Like for everybody, I was like, well,
what is this we're listening to? I remember a bunch
of me and my girlfriends jumped into a car and
tried to go down to the local radio station just
to meet DiAngelo because this music was so soulful. It
(14:30):
spoke to our spirit and I'm like, oh, my girl
wrote as if we're best friends songs here.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's fault funder because D'Angelo uh, just just a credit
to himself, his brother Luther Archer, and d Angelo was
primarily responsible for writing a lot of brown sugar. As
a matter of fact, when I met DiAngelo, I was
confused with that whole vibe because we were excited to
(14:57):
work for each other. I ended up writing Jones and
My Bones on that first out, So you know, every
Day was a song that I wrote. Die was a
song that I wrote with him. More accordingly, I got
to work very closely with him in the studio when
he was was cruising, uh, when we get by songs
(15:21):
that would embody a presence, energy, a vibe. We went
on to do the next hour and I did Spanish Joint,
I did a Great Day in the Morning, I did Africa,
I did send it on. You know, these are the
songs that I were writing with him when he started
(15:42):
to evolb and people started to look for what was next.
We grew up Great Day in the morning. Like I said,
We went on to do play for the cartoon soundtrack
with Michael Jordan, with Bugs, Buddy and all of it
was just a pleathor of opportunities to do stuff, And
(16:06):
it was hard to do Vertical Hole, which was my
D'Angelo and whatever else they had for me slately to do.
I was spreading myself for then I had worked on Canther,
I had worked with Usher and Monica on this, straining
it out of the panic strack. So I was kind
of me pulled to and fro at a time when
(16:27):
you know, music was evolving in a whole other way.
And we're just grateful that I was factored into that
whole neo soul by. But I have to give credit
where credit and do Luther Archer and the Angelo who
are brothers. They did the soundtrack of Jason's lyric. You
will know we came right behind that and did a
(16:52):
Freedom for the Joy with girls all the women, So
you know, I was part of that whole movement and
Raphaelsa did you know there was a handful of us
that kind of played in that playground together. So uh,
but it's safe to say, uh Ne'angelo was pretty pretty
(17:14):
formed and well shaped by the time I met him.
I would only enhance what he was already doing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Let me ask you a question. When you write, and
we'll get into obviously your solo career, but when you write,
what do you where do you go to write? What
is the mood, what is the occasion? How do you
do it?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
When I write, I go to the core of my
own emotion, because anything that you do is attached to
an emotion. Be a good bet or indifferent in emotion, nonetheless,
is what fuse the fire. If you're angry, you can
write something for my angry stance because you pull from
(17:58):
that end. And just like being an act, in order
to get great, you have to cry at will. If
you can quiet will is because you're able to internalize
pain to the point that you can tap in on
what it is you're trying to get to. It is
the same process with the rioting, and you can tap
into what it is you're trying to gain.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So wait, so does do they come to you and say,
and I'll use the angel as an example. Hi, I
need some dope neo soul music and only you can
do it. Or is it like I need a love
song to tell the ladies how I feel? Or what
what is the directive? I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Okay, there is no real direction on what you need.
More than likely people think when they hear one hit song,
nine to nine hit songs from that same person because
the one whenever you opening matter WI be touched in paper,
it's gonna come out break. That is not the case. Okay,
sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. But normally when
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they say and I need you to write a song, okay,
it all depends on who the groundwork is. Lay you
get in a track that it moves me in a
certain way. I can write something in a certain way.
But if you if you got one element working and
then the other element not working, it's gonna be a
sale marriage. If that makes it as sisty, it has
to be a work up of marriage. It's almost virtually
(19:24):
impossible to take a dood track and make it dope.
Oh wow, now you got a really dope track. It's easy.
But if you don't have a dope track, you can't
make something dood dope.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, you're like, I don't think it can't work that
kind of magic. So then you are a solo artist
and you have a career and you are your own.
And I always find it interesting I think of artists
like even a Missy Elliott for that matter, who was like,
I never really wanted to be in front of the camera.
(19:57):
I only wanted to write. And Sylvia rons to me, right,
I mean be in front of the camera. When you
become an artist and everything is about you what is different?
What is different than being the writer when you're performing.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, when you become the artist, you become an anime,
become a character. You put yourself in a position that Okay,
I'm stepping out of being who I was born to be,
like a regular first. Now I've got to put on
this persona that I am greater than life. And the
reason I say that is because you know, when you
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dream of being a superstar, you have an envision in
your mind that superstar sways her arms out. If you're
a dancer, you kick your legs out and you do that.
You know what, It's all in the interpretation of what
you feel that a star is. Then there's some people
you know who is social is like Beyonce. When she
(20:54):
wants to go there, she has to go into this
whole you know, animated character is caapcuzation that allows you
to believe that she's somebody different. Yeah. So, you know,
for an artist, that's just somebody that is feeling good
about themselves. You lose yourself and your gift and when
you do that, you kind of just explode. Now you're
(21:17):
able to act alive, you able to act out loud,
You're able to personifide this thing, it says, this is
how I want you to sing. If I want to
be down down ross the balls, want to give you
that energy that I am in charge, lodge to the yard.
So I love it's all a part of your persona.
(21:37):
I love it you act out the persona that you are.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That is so true for anybody who's performing, whether you're
a singer or not. Okay, you know what time it is,
pay bills. That is what we have to do. What
you can do is fast forward past the commercials because
I know there are plenty hit that at fifteen or
thirty second. Forward button and we'll be right back with
Angie Stone.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Every champion, every champion is to be a champion, a
champion and carry Chappion and carry chap beata champion and
carry Chappion and Carrie chap.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Entertainment.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Can n neck you work.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Kerry Champion and Carrie Chappion is to be a champion
of Champion and Carrie Chappie and a champion and carry
Chapion and Carrie Chpy.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Word. Angie Stone still here with us talking to me
about the difference. Very few, I think, but the difference
between being a singer performer and an actress performer. I
hope you all enjoy Angie Stone, I read and you
can tell me if this is true or not. Clive Davis,
(22:48):
when you guys work together, Clive had what is now
a hit, a hit record or a hit single. Uh,
he wanted to put this hit single on one of
on your album and you didn't like it? What tell me?
How goes? How do we collaborate and decide? All right, fine,
all right, Clive, I'm going to listen to you and
I don't really like this though, Well that's kind of me.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If I don't like it, I'm gonna be painfully honest.
I didn't like the song, one of the songs on
this album. And you know, it's almost like for me
when I say I don't like something, me gets everybody
gassed up because when they know it's a hit. I
would like the song because I was finished my album.
This was I was getting ready to wrap and mix
(23:33):
and master the album in five both and you know
I found the song that you I'm like, I don't
want to give a more song, don't my album? I'm done?
So when he plays I don't even like the song.
It was a wish I didn't miss you, and he
was like, and you have to do the song. And
I just did not want to do the song, not
so much because I didn't like it. I wasn't that
(23:55):
fond of it. But I was done with my album, Like,
why are you making me go and do another song?
I just wanted it to be done already. Yeah, say
a thing with this album. I didn't want to do
kiss You, kiss You, and they like, I said my manager, Walt,
really don't want to do the song and he said,
edgic all the reason more. Now you gotta do the song.
(24:15):
I said, please, I'm going to tell you. I had
a long sit down with it Ben and not feeling
the song. And he said, okay, just do me a favor,
just finish the song for me. And I'm like, but
I don't. I really don't like the song. And I mean,
I was dead serious. Uh, And he told me. He says, okay,
I get it. If you don't like it, why it's so,
(24:38):
but I'll take it off a junior paper, go in
there and nail that. Rec just do that. And I said,
all right. It was like pulling teeth. I finally got that. Uh,
ooh boy on it and see I was so outdone
with that part. Who wait you ooh? And he says,
why don't you like? I said, I just hate that
ooh boy yu because that's not now say and uh.
(25:02):
They laughed at me and laughed at me. So when
they dropped a single, and when I first played Girls
in the Back of the Car, it's like, oh, that's
my favorite, that's my favorite. I looked around like you
got it. I was like, you have got to be
kidding me. So I called up my man and I
(25:23):
said this and that this, and he just bust out laugh.
He said, you wait, you can see what happened and
lower and the hold. Everybody was going bananas over kiss you,
kiss you, kish you?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
What does that say?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Why moves that? When I say it's a bad record,
it just hit record.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I don't know how I feel about that. I have it.
I can't process that because I would think as an artist,
you would know what's going to work.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I think I know, but I did. I absolutely loved
good Man and I had I was like, Okay, y'all
can pick all of this, but I and this is
what I wouldn't do. And they're looking at him like, oh, hell,
now it's proven that way. Man, she might be right. Okay,
wait a minute, what the man just went for a
(26:12):
million this and that, and now that I'm like, but
I know what I'm doing. Sometimes, Probably I don't like
a record doesn't mean it's a bad record. It just
means that you might want to give it a second
thought because she said she don't like it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Probably, Oh that is That really is funny. The irony
of what it's the truth?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And you ask anybody and I can't. They will tell.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You it's something to being maybe I don't even know
what it is. I want to say, maybe being a
little too critical on yourself. I couldn't quite describe it.
I do oh yeah, yeah, I am that you're hard
on yourself?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Right, I hate it every vocal on this album. I
knew it was about the cry didn't want to put
a record out because I thought I sounded like crap.
And I'm like, I'm just not there anymore? Why do I?
And now I can't. I'm laying it over and over
(27:11):
because I'm like, you know, my song was even looking
at me crazy and I'm like, I kind of bit
this vaffle. Now he said, I know me too, so
it kind of grew on us.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, it takes a while, but I will say that
speaking of your son, he is a rapper and is
that correct me if I'm wrong? This is the son
you have with D'Angelo and he is on the current
album correct?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, he's dope though, he got it all stuff and
he's bananas what?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay? So how does that work? Does he come in
into a feature? Is he sitting in studio with you?
Or he already writes it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And y'all in the studio. See, he was in the studio.
Took me over there and my manner and Mike, can
you put a verse on this for me? And he
wrote it and did it and wanted to tape. Didn't
even ask me the one that made it up. I mean,
he was already on it out like okay.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I love that. Well, congratulations for your artists. That is special.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I do.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That is really special and it's always nice to see
that it's in the DNA right and it finds in
different ways. That is an accomplishment. I know you must
be proud.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Can I talk to you about acting because you spend
some time on Broadway, which I feel is and I
go back and forth between New York and LA And
every time I go to Broadway or I watch you play,
I'm like, that is so difficult. I could not imagine.
Is there anything difference between acting and singing?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
For you?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Which one is more difficult?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, it all depends on the script the role. Singing
is obviously easier because I've had a whole lot more
experience with that, and each time when you add a
melody to a lyric, the memory is locked and loaded. Acting,
on the other hand, is all memory. You have got
(29:09):
to really put your mind to work. I did, uh
the what's the play women of Color? Oh? God, I
can't think of the Oprah Winfrey colored women? Huh Color? Yeah?
I did that now. It was Missus Purple, and it
(29:29):
was written so difficult. I honestly didn't think I could
pull it off. And when I pulled that off, I
knew I was ready for the same. It was so
intricate and difficult. It was almost like something I never seen,
like Shakespeare, and I had to actually memorize like these
(29:55):
all these lines. I just finished a series called Whole
Fate h E A u X that's on True TV.
That's actually good, and of course you've seen me on
in the cut of the girl Friends. I think quite
a few little vies. So it's kind of fun when
you have to create a new character that is not you.
(30:19):
Most of the characters that be getting lady if people
want me to add my sense of humor to it,
which is easy, but you know, try getting a character
that does not embody your sense of humor and you've
got to really create a role for this person. It's difficult, yeah,
but it's because if you can master that or that that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Every champion and Kerry Champions to be a champion, a
champion and Kerry Champion and carry chat Champion and carry
Chappion and carry chap Entertainment and make.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It work Kerry Champion and.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Then carry Chappion is to be a champion of Champion
and Carrie Chappie and the Champion and carry Sheppion and
Carrie chap Entertainment.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Getting get working on.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Have you ever done a project you talk about Shakespeare?
I listened i college. I too was an English major,
and they used to try to make us recite Shakespeare.
I was like, I don't have it. I didn't do
well in that class barely ce c clubs Linus whatever
it was I had, But have you ever done something
in terms of your acting career and said this is
(31:33):
this is excellent because it's hard for people who are
very creative and very talented and ambitious to step outside
of what they did and said that I did that.
Is there a project that you worked on and was like,
I did that?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah? I mean I thought I did. When I did
the show Girl Friends, did I was? I played a
character called Dalla Mace. I think that I nailed it
right on the edge. I thought it was brilliant. I
(32:09):
think the one that I did for Color Girls Is
was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Uh, it was just and a very artsy piece of
work that you know, everybody had to be on the point.
I worked with Robin Gibbons, and you know, it was
just in a chanse to script and you really had
to be focused to pull it off. And I studied
(32:39):
real hard and made it happen. So good for you.
I'm the first person, though, if I feel like a
script demanding thing that I'm unable to give out. Yeah,
like I'm all say, unlikely something I really want to do,
But I feel like a blue a dropped the ball.
I want audition for it?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Good for you?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Now what Tavia Spencer used to read for When I
lived in California. She and I used to be neck
and neck at all of our auditions. It was myself
Olivia and it was someone else's. So the minute I
left California and moved back South O, Nivia got the
(33:23):
best role of her life and that was the one
she played with. She had the pie and she had arrived,
her break came and I'm like that point role, you know.
But I mean it was good to see her get
there because every time I went to the audition, I
(33:44):
was like, oh wow, I got to go up against
Octavia Spencer. Oh god again again again. It was that
kind of thing, you know. So it was one of
those tactics where I was in great company and I
used to get called to read for stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
How amazing is that? And by the way, that is true,
they bring the same person out. You're like, now you again?
Do I have to keep seeing you everywhere?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Was it like that? Well, I I'm sorry, no, I
was gonna say, was it like that when you ran
into her in an audition room?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah? Because I knew anything that she was any time
she was there. We were reading for the same part.
I hate Hollywood, so I'd be like, but it makes
me that if I staying, I probably would have wound
up with her luck. I probably eventually got a role
that she no longer had an audition for that they
(34:36):
would have needed a new face for and they would
to see it. Let's try Andy Stone that I was
actually supposed to get a role that uh played a
woman from Ghana that it just elbow was in. Jill
Scott ended up getting the role, and I remember it
(34:57):
was coming to me and saying, you need to check
your team because Anthony, the guy that ended up passing
away the producer, uh, he let me know that the
role was yours. He had told him he really wanted
me to have the role. And Jill ended up getting
it because her team was just a little bit more
(35:18):
aggressive than mine and they fought. Whereas I had very
limited team players. She had a bunch of people that
were red in her corner. Shout out in Jill Scott.
They had a lot of people that were in her
corner and they just charted that great. It's just so
as a result, she ended up getting that role. Do
you think that.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I don't know what else there is in terms of
for you to do. But when you get to a
point of your career where you've had success and you
maintain and you have established yourself, what would it be
a next I'd like to try that? Or what would
be the next get that you want? Would you want?
I want to come back to LA and really go
(36:03):
hard at acting. Is there something that's out there in
the ether that you're waiting to grab?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Well, my next is you know, if I had my way,
I would want to be like Harol Burnett because I
think that fascinating. She's probably one of the most creative
women in the game. I love the fact that she
ran her own ship at her own show. She trusted
(36:31):
her own jokes, and I just feel like I'm a
leader like that. I want to be in a position
where I can drive the car. I think being a
visionary is key. Of course, I would love to come
back to LA, but I would love to push my
own show, and I'd like to see other people when
I don't necessarily have to be in it or a
(36:52):
part of it, but I really would like to see,
you know, other people come up because I know it's
a lot of child with people just right. Sure they
don't get the break.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
It's a tough it's a tough game. It's a tough
game out here in LA. It's a tough game. Okay.
So for everyone who wants to go out and support
your latest project, how do they find it? You can
get it on Apple one.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, all all platform the Angie Stone, the right one
is me with the black hat, you know, and then
I got one with my hands like this on my face.
That is the Instagram poster. That is the real Angiston.
All the old ones connected to old labels of people
that won't give up the hamp so they're confusing the issue.
(37:41):
But the latest one up one yes, okay, with your
hand B A N G, I E. S c O
and the b Angie Stone all platforms.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Hands are your face let me know, Okay, got it?
I want to make sure because my producer, Jacquess will
make sure that we put all that out there. Is
there anything else we should be promoting? I want to
thank you for your time. I know you have had
a day, so I wanted to get you in it.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's okay, I got a few more to go, but
all I just want to make sure that everybody knows
is that I'm working on my foundation, which is called
Angel Stripes. And what I do is I help elderly people, infants,
homeless families and infants. I made gift care packages. I've
(38:29):
team of people that be going around to the senior
citizens volunteer in our time, making sure that they're okay,
entertaining them and just loving on them. I also have
a hot sauce that's coming out for brother Man Tacos
that I'm doing with young man by the name of Randy.
(38:50):
I'm excited about it and the hot sauce it's called
four hundred degrees and that's how four hundred years we've
been over Africa. The hot sauce is a the bolem Okay.
And now the last thing that I'm working on is
a television show or a streaming network called House of
(39:10):
Flay that I'm co hosting with music Soul Child Wi
Young and upcoming artist the opportunity to get out there
and be seen and you know, hopefully get their gifts
acknowledge by the world.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
And correct me if I'm wrong. Give music so Chi'll
work on this latest album with you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Music so Child worked on the single The Gem.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
With me, okay, I love him. I saw him performed
in my friend's wedding. Oh he's incredible, incredible, is incredible.
I love this Andre Stone. You're a legend, you are
a trailblazer and you are soul.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So I appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
And you look amazing. Don't you ever forget that either.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh wow, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, it's a pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I appreciate you guys so much. Welcome so pretty appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Thank you guys so much for listening. And remember, if
you want to support, which I think you should, you
can go to her socials find the latest album, The
Angie Stone. She said, there are a lot of random handles,
but she only has one that she approves of and
that's The Angie Stone. Hands on face, her words, not mine,
So please go out and support her. She has provided
(40:25):
us with something that I think you can't really quantify.
Her saying that Lauren Hill was the epitome of the
music in which she created this neil So hip hop
ROBERTA Flack singing sound that she created initially with her
group sequence Lauren Hill, who we All Love is the
(40:49):
epitome of what they were all trying to accomplish as
female artists, female black artist So again, go out and
support to that end. I know I asked you all
to pay attention to the store have one aj Owens
and if you have not, I urge you. If you
have not heard about this story, I ask you to Google,
to research to support the goal fund me to spread
(41:11):
the word because this vigilanti justice just has to stop.
It really does, because usually it ends with them taking
the lives of someone that looks like me and you.
Thank you so much for listening to this edition of Naked.
Have a great day.
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