March 22, 2024 • 22 mins
In this bonus episode, Cari discusses the NCAA women's basketball tournament and highlights the growth of the game, focusing on the behavior and accountability of LSU head coach Kim Mulkey compared to South Carolina's head coach Dawn Staley. Cari questions whether Mulkey's behavior would be tolerated if she were black and highlights Staley's professionalism and leadership. The episode raises important questions about the treatment of black coaches and the need for progress and accountability in women's college basketball.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's the greatest dispersion in the tainment. kN Naked Ward,
Cary Chi and the car Chappi is the be a
CHAMPIONNA Champion and Carrie Chappi and Nigger ladycoun a Champion.
They carry champion and carried Chpi. Greatest sports in entament
can Naked Ward. Hey, everybody, welcome to this very special edition.
It's a March Madness edition of Naked, a bonus edition
(00:31):
of Naked. Something I wanted to give you all. I
don't know if you remember me sharing this with you, family,
but I went to Paris in November of last year
to see Don Staley and the South Carolina game Cats
play against Notre Dame Fighting Irish. And that was the
very first time that a women's program, which was just
basically emblematic of what's going on in women's sports, but
(00:53):
it was the very first time a women's collegiate program
was asked to travel to an other country and play.
Because there were so many fans in France that wanted
to see women's collegiate basketball, So why not have Don
Staley do it? So me and a bunch of my girlfriends,
(01:14):
I call him the Machetes shout out to the Machetes.
It's Jamel Hill, Angela Rye, Joey Read, Tiffany Cross, Aaron Haynes,
Latasha let me see goodness, grief, Weatasha Brown. There's so
many I have so many friends. I'm making sure. Oh
and Alicia Garza. How could I ever forget her? We
(01:37):
all decided Sonny did not come. Sonny Joyson's in the crew,
but Sonny did not come, and we all decided to
watch Don Staley play. And it was very important for
us US black women to go out and support this
black woman who's been doing amazing things. But it got
me to thinking as we head into March Madness. I've
been watching women's ball all season long, and I have questions.
(02:02):
I wonder why Kim Molkie, who is the current reigning
champion championship coach at LSU, is able to get away
with some of the things she's able to get away with.
I wonder, if, in fact, she looked like Don Staley,
would she be able to get away with some of
the things that she could actually that she's doing right now.
(02:24):
I don't think so. Maybe, but I don't think so
because I've watched Don Staley's career and I know that
she ultimately has worked up to this point where she
has now received her flowers in the respect that she deserves.
But dare I say, She's been excellent for the better
part of a decade in terms of coaching, and she
(02:46):
has just, to me and my opinion, started to get
the recognition that she deserves. But she still handles herself
and also her players with a beautiful, beautiful amount of
elegance and ease, but still grit and slowly but surely
she is chipping away at the Gino Rimas of the world,
(03:11):
the Yukon's of the world. And what was once because
you kind is still a very powerful program, but what
was once a dominating program is no more and that
is because of Don Staley my opinion, you don't have
to agree. But yet, and still her players are criticized.
Yet and still the way in which she coaches is
(03:32):
often criticized, and she still is questioned. But yet we
have somebody like Kim Molki who is also decorated. But
Kim MOKEI is allowed to say and do whatever she wants.
(03:53):
Kim Moky, you guys know this is the head coach
at LSU. I keep saying that she is a white
woman who has really proven herself. She's an excellent coach.
But when I tell you she has no etiquette. Her
behavior on the sidelines to me is unacceptable. How she
talks to reporters, to me is unacceptable. If she isn't happy.
(04:17):
The things that she says to me are unacceptable, terms
ideas unacceptable. But she's allowed to get away with it
because there is this thought that, oh, that's just Kim,
that's just how she is. That's just Kim, that's just
how she is. She comes from a different school. She's
(04:38):
old school. I'm old school. I wouldn't be able to
get away with that. And while that's either here nor there.
As we head into this March Madness tournament and you
watch these teams fight their way through the bracket, win
or go home, I predict that Don Staley will win
(04:58):
a chip. I really do. I think. In fact, the final,
and I'm gonna call her right now, will be Don
Staley's South Carolina game Cocks taking on Caitlyn Clark, Caitlyn
Clark's IOWA team. Right I won't even say the name
of the head coach. I'll just say it's Caitlin Clark's
Iowa's team. I think it'll be a rematch of the
semifinal from last year, in which Don Staley and her
(05:21):
team had to go home Iowa won. It was shocking,
but I do think this time Don Stay will come
out on top. All the while, though, I ask you
to watch LSU. Not so much the players, because shout
out to Angel Reese and Flage and all of those
great players on a team that I absolutely love. But
I want you to watch Kim Moulky in her interaction
(05:44):
and how she behaves and see if there is another coach,
a single coach, especially in the women's game, that behaves
that way. That's my challenge for you. Now, I'll give
you a little recap on why this is interesting to me,
because I plan to show how sport is that the
intersection of civility. Sports is at the intersection of race,
(06:06):
Sports is at the intersection of politics. Sports is at
the intersection of culture. Sports represents so many different things.
I had an opportunity a year or so ago to
interview Don Sale. It was right after she got her
record breaking deal making her one of the highest paid
(06:26):
women's coaches ever in the sport, and she talked to
me rather about how difficult it was for her to
get here. She took the stairs, not an escalator. This
goes back to her entire collegiate career. This episode is
(06:47):
I have questions. Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You have to think in nineteen ninety two when I
graduated from Virginia, I was college play of the year.
Doing that same year, Larry's Johnson Grandmama was the college
play of the year. He signed an eighty million dollar contract.
I signed and it wasn't right. It wasn't right after college,
(07:12):
like basketball season has started probably in September. So I'm
home with a with a retail job, and I wasn't
very good at good.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
At So by way of background, I want you all
to know I am coming in here with questions and
also an agenda. Don Stanley to me can do no wrong.
So I'm already biased, and I'm being fair about my
how biased I am. But last year when she lost
to Kim Moki and she wasn't able to make it
(07:46):
to the championship. Actually, when she lost to Kim Mokey,
I remember thinking, oh, what a bummer. She lost in
the semifinals, and I remember thinking what a bummer. I
really wanted to see her go far. I really wanted
to see her. She made it to the final four,
but I wanted to see her win another ship. And
it just wasn't don season. She didn't have the personnel.
(08:07):
There was Kim Molkie, who was a very decorated coach
who's already won championships in her own right. Everyone respects her.
But she had these two really beautiful players, several players
actually I'm not even just too. But Angel Reese was
the headliner. You all know who Angel Reese is. She
was the headliner. And it ended up being in the
championship IOWA versus LSU. So the headliner for LSU was
(08:31):
Angel Reese. The headliner for IOWA was Caitlyn Clark. And
it was black and white. Literally, Angel Reese is black,
Caitlyn Clark is white, and it all came to a
head in the championship game win. LSU ended up winning,
but Angel Reese decided to taunt and tease her give
(08:52):
and right as a winner, as a champion, I believe
one Kitlyn Clark and the optics did not sit well
for so many people. They were like, why is this
big black girl chasing down this white girl on the
court's she is a poor winners. This is not good
sportsman like conduct. Why is she behaving this way? And
Angel Reese took to the microphone when it was all
(09:14):
said and done with her championship trophy and her championship
gear and said, listen, y'all have been calling me ghetto
and this all year long, and that's just not true.
She was like, I am a good person and I
will not adhere to this narrative because I want take
a listen.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't fit the narrative. I don't fit in the
box that y'all want me to be in. I'm too hood,
I'm too ghetto. Y'all told me that all year but
when other people do it, y'all don't say nothing. So
this was for the girls that looked like me that's
gonna speak up on what they believe in.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's unapologized to you.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
It was bigger than me tonight, me tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So the scene is set. Everyone wants to see more
of Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Everyone wants to see
more of this battle. It's reminiscent of Larry Bird taking
on Magic Johnson. It's reminiscent of that particular rivalry because
the color lines are clear. It is a black girl
taking on a white girl. It is just a simple
(10:10):
It's just as simple. And so now we're locked in
because there's true rivalry. Now these ladies have handled themselves
as they should. Kudos to Angel, kudos to Caitlin. They
don't even adhere to the narrative that we've created in
different arenas, in different and different groups and different and
different analysts, if you will, weighing in on this, they
(10:32):
haven't even fed into that narrative. They want to play ball.
Angel's aware of it, but they still want to play ball.
But here's where my problem begins and ends. And I'll
start with this series of questions. As of late, Kim Moki,
not even as of late, Kim Moki has always been
a firecracker, the way she dresses, the way she handles
(10:52):
herself on the court. But the questions that I ask
myself are really simple. If she were black, would she
be able to get away with what she's doing? If
Kim Mochi were black, could she behave the way in
which she behaves? Could she say the things that she
says without the media holding her accountable or saying that
(11:13):
what she says is inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I say no.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Most recently, Angel Reese Lsu Kim Mochi taking on Don
Staley South Carolina and her team. It was for the
SEC championship. It's a conference championship. It's what you want
before you get ready to go to this tournament that
is happening today. Don and her team won, but it
(11:35):
got heated. One of Kim Moki's players, Flage, who I love, talented, talented,
talented player, also a rapper, super smart, didn't like what
happened in the game, and she started pushing people around.
She pushed one person, pushed another person, and then one
of Don Staley's players pushed her. The six foot seventh center,
(11:58):
big girl pushed her. She fell on her ass. And
this is what Kim Welky had to say.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
No one wants to see to see that ugliness. But
I can tell you this, I wish she would have
pushed Angel Reese. Don't push a kid that you six eight,
don't push somebody that little. That was uncalled for. In
my opinion, Let those two girls that were drawing, let
them go at it go at.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
My question is if she or a black head coach
in that very same position, could she get away with
that type of behavior. Conversely, when Don's player pushed Vage down,
this is what Don had to say.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You know, I just want to apologize to the basketball community.
You know, when you're playing championship games like this in
our league, things get heated. No paying intentions. They just
tried that there most is gotten so far ahead of
Hilt that sometimes these things have happen. Someone apologize for
us playing a part in that, because that's not who
(13:05):
we are and that's not what we're about. But I'm
happy for the players they way able to finish the
game and get us another championship.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Her response is emblematic of the type of coach she is.
She assumed responsibility. She said, this happens often when things
are heated, but it's still not okay. And I went
up to Flage and she apologized to me, and I
apologize to her, and things got a little out of control.
Don handled it like such a g and it didn't
(13:37):
get it didn't get out of control. In terms of
the media, they couldn't hold Don accountable and say get
your players their thugs or this or that. Don stopped
the narrative before it began. Because she is your favorite coach,
is coach, she is all of our favorite coach. She
(13:57):
is truly a legend, and she's also aware of the
optics because she is a black woman. And I don't
want to divide anybody, but can someone help me because
I have some questions. Why is Kimochi allowed to say
and do what she wants and talks in such a
disrespectful way. She says she has a pure heart. She
(14:18):
says she doesn't mean to do anything wrong. She's very
heart she's very kind hearted. She just says what she says.
That is a luxury that I'm sure don Sale doesn't have.
That is a luxury that other head coaches, black or white,
in this business, in this women's game, more specifically, they
just do not have. And I watch as the media,
(14:40):
myself included, we don't hold Kimochy accountable. Why don't we say, hey,
kim Moochy, what you said is problematic. Hey Kimochi, you
say things often that are problematic. I'm really curious as
to why this legend, because she is in her own right,
this legend in the business can move the way she
(15:04):
moves without anyone holding her accountable. Take a listen to
kim when asked if she was in approbate. And it's
so out of control with the media right now.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You don't get this much attention when men do it,
So why do you keep writing it about the women.
It really comes across and I'll just say it, it
comes across as a little bit sexist.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
With that being said, as we embark on this tournament,
my hope obviously is that my team UCLA, my team
go Bruins. I hope you all win, but I want
you all to pay attention to the storylines, pay attention
to Kimulke and her players. Pay attention to Don Staley
(15:50):
and her players. I'm telling you as an eyewitness, I've
watched Don go up to her players and tell them
to act right, to behave to represent the school a
certain way. I've watched her do that because she wants
these women to grow up not only to be great players,
(16:12):
but to be great role models, to be great leaders
on and off the court. She holds her players accountable.
She wouldn't dare say I wish she would have tried
that with Angel Reese. She wouldn't dare incite another fight
if you will, as Kim Moki did, and I wonder
why that is okay. I don't know, Boo for thought
(16:39):
questions that i'd like you to ask yourself as you
watch this tournament. With that being said, though, congratulations to
the sport because it is growing in leaps and bounds.
It is growing. More people are watching women's sports than ever,
and I am so grateful that we are at a
time where we can watch this revolution and it is
(17:01):
because we need We needed our storylines, and we needed
our characters. Kaitlin Clark, we thank you. There are people, though,
I mean, if I'm being honest with you, as I
pause and I pause on purpose, there are people who
will say Kaitlin Clark is great, and I'm glad that
she was able to bring this type of attention, this
mainstream attention, but we cannot forget the Lynette Woodwards of
it all. Lenette Order was on this podcast Pearl More
(17:23):
if you will. There are so many legends that started
this game, this women's basketball game at the collegiate level,
and brought so much attention to it, but they did
not get this mainstream attention. And that's okay, because we're
here to give them their flowers. While I do believe
Kitlyn Clark's a great shooter and she's helped advance this sport,
(17:44):
there were others who did it before her, and we
should start acknowledging them. Here on Naked, we had Lynette
ordered on and we re aired that podcast. You guys
should go back and listen to it. She talks about
the differences between then and now, and gosh, they're so
great and vast. There was no there was no WNBA.
And when I tell you, that is the point of
(18:05):
growing the game. There's no bitterness, there is no issue
left behind. I believe Lynette is getting her just due now.
People are acknowledging her. She has a documentary. People are
paying attention to what she did for this sport, and
I appreciate that. But the point of everything is to
make progression, to progress, to be better, to be more.
That is what is happening now with women's college sports,
(18:28):
more specifically, I'm talking about basketball, and so to all
of those who who went before us and had to
deal with the less than, we appreciate you so we
can have more now. I hope you guys enjoy this tournament.
I ask you to watch the sport for what it is,
but I also want you to know there's still so
(18:49):
much more growing to do. There's still so much more
that needs to be said about this sport, and there
are still so many more that we need to be
holding accountable. The way that you use used to do
this sport, the way that you used to coach this game,
the way that you used to play this game is changing,
and I would say you should be held accountable. I'm
(19:10):
choosing my words carefully because there are people who enjoy
watching Kim Moulki and they know that she's a legend,
and they think she's done so much for the sport.
I know what she's done for the sport, but two
things can be true. The other part is yes, and yes,
she's a legend, and she's still to me can be
(19:32):
problematic in her interviews and the way in which she
treats her players and talks about other players, the way
in which she handles her interviews. She pouts, she's angry,
she's mean, she doesn't even try to pretend like she's not.
There's no common courtesy. Why is that okay? Why does
she have that that right when others learn to control
(19:55):
their emotions other coaches learn to give interviews, other coaches
learn to say what they should say. Why does she
not need to learn how to be because this is
who she is? Is that acceptable questions? I'm asking help me?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Help me?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Can you help me? I appreciate you guys for listening.
Means a lot to me. I got to go back
to watch these games, but I want to update my bracket.
I'm so glad that I can update my bracket and
this comes out just in time. I did not put UCLA,
my alma mater, in the final four. Please forgive me.
(20:33):
I just couldn't see my team getting past Iowa. Say
what you want about Kaitlin Clark. I do believe there's
a little extra ice on her in terms of people
are so happy because she is a white woman who
can play well. I do believe she's getting more media attention,
and I do believe that's not a bad thing in
the sense that she has brought more attention to this
(20:54):
game for women. But I just don't think UCLA can
get past her. Are you one of the better shooters,
if not best shooter, that we've seen in a long
time in the women's game, and by a long time,
I'm me within the last decade. I don't want to
disrespect the Lynette Woodards of the world or the Promores,
but she has has really amplified this game in a
(21:17):
different level. So shout out to Kaitlin Clark, Shout out
to my UCLA Bruins. I just don't see you guys
making it past Iowa, and I do see Iowa meeting
South Carolina in the championship game as mentioned, and Don
Staley getting a win, avenging the lost of last year
(21:38):
to Iowa. Those are my hot takes. If you are
watching March Madness, we got a couple of weeks. Please
weigh in, tell me your thoughts, get back to me
and I'll talk to you soon. Thanks for listening to
Naked
It's the greatest dispersion in the tainment. kN Naked Ward,
Cary Chi and the car Chappi is the be a
CHAMPIONNA Champion and Carrie Chappi and Nigger ladycoun a Champion.
They carry champion and carried Chpi. Greatest sports in entament
can Naked Ward. Hey, everybody, welcome to this very special edition.
It's a March Madness edition of Naked, a bonus edition
(00:31):
of Naked. Something I wanted to give you all. I
don't know if you remember me sharing this with you, family,
but I went to Paris in November of last year
to see Don Staley and the South Carolina game Cats
play against Notre Dame Fighting Irish. And that was the
very first time that a women's program, which was just
basically emblematic of what's going on in women's sports, but
(00:53):
it was the very first time a women's collegiate program
was asked to travel to an other country and play.
Because there were so many fans in France that wanted
to see women's collegiate basketball, So why not have Don
Staley do it? So me and a bunch of my girlfriends,
(01:14):
I call him the Machetes shout out to the Machetes.
It's Jamel Hill, Angela Rye, Joey Read, Tiffany Cross, Aaron Haynes,
Latasha let me see goodness, grief, Weatasha Brown. There's so
many I have so many friends. I'm making sure. Oh
and Alicia Garza. How could I ever forget her? We
(01:37):
all decided Sonny did not come. Sonny Joyson's in the crew,
but Sonny did not come, and we all decided to
watch Don Staley play. And it was very important for
us US black women to go out and support this
black woman who's been doing amazing things. But it got
me to thinking as we head into March Madness. I've
been watching women's ball all season long, and I have questions.
(02:02):
I wonder why Kim Molkie, who is the current reigning
champion championship coach at LSU, is able to get away
with some of the things she's able to get away with.
I wonder, if, in fact, she looked like Don Staley,
would she be able to get away with some of
the things that she could actually that she's doing right now.
(02:24):
I don't think so. Maybe, but I don't think so
because I've watched Don Staley's career and I know that
she ultimately has worked up to this point where she
has now received her flowers in the respect that she deserves.
But dare I say, She's been excellent for the better
part of a decade in terms of coaching, and she
(02:46):
has just, to me and my opinion, started to get
the recognition that she deserves. But she still handles herself
and also her players with a beautiful, beautiful amount of
elegance and ease, but still grit and slowly but surely
she is chipping away at the Gino Rimas of the world,
(03:11):
the Yukon's of the world. And what was once because
you kind is still a very powerful program, but what
was once a dominating program is no more and that
is because of Don Staley my opinion, you don't have
to agree. But yet, and still her players are criticized.
Yet and still the way in which she coaches is
(03:32):
often criticized, and she still is questioned. But yet we
have somebody like Kim Molki who is also decorated. But
Kim MOKEI is allowed to say and do whatever she wants.
(03:53):
Kim Moky, you guys know this is the head coach
at LSU. I keep saying that she is a white
woman who has really proven herself. She's an excellent coach.
But when I tell you she has no etiquette. Her
behavior on the sidelines to me is unacceptable. How she
talks to reporters, to me is unacceptable. If she isn't happy.
(04:17):
The things that she says to me are unacceptable, terms
ideas unacceptable. But she's allowed to get away with it
because there is this thought that, oh, that's just Kim,
that's just how she is. That's just Kim, that's just
how she is. She comes from a different school. She's
(04:38):
old school. I'm old school. I wouldn't be able to
get away with that. And while that's either here nor there.
As we head into this March Madness tournament and you
watch these teams fight their way through the bracket, win
or go home, I predict that Don Staley will win
(04:58):
a chip. I really do. I think. In fact, the final,
and I'm gonna call her right now, will be Don
Staley's South Carolina game Cocks taking on Caitlyn Clark, Caitlyn
Clark's IOWA team. Right I won't even say the name
of the head coach. I'll just say it's Caitlin Clark's
Iowa's team. I think it'll be a rematch of the
semifinal from last year, in which Don Staley and her
(05:21):
team had to go home Iowa won. It was shocking,
but I do think this time Don Stay will come
out on top. All the while, though, I ask you
to watch LSU. Not so much the players, because shout
out to Angel Reese and Flage and all of those
great players on a team that I absolutely love. But
I want you to watch Kim Moulky in her interaction
(05:44):
and how she behaves and see if there is another coach,
a single coach, especially in the women's game, that behaves
that way. That's my challenge for you. Now, I'll give
you a little recap on why this is interesting to me,
because I plan to show how sport is that the
intersection of civility. Sports is at the intersection of race,
(06:06):
Sports is at the intersection of politics. Sports is at
the intersection of culture. Sports represents so many different things.
I had an opportunity a year or so ago to
interview Don Sale. It was right after she got her
record breaking deal making her one of the highest paid
(06:26):
women's coaches ever in the sport, and she talked to
me rather about how difficult it was for her to
get here. She took the stairs, not an escalator. This
goes back to her entire collegiate career. This episode is
(06:47):
I have questions. Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You have to think in nineteen ninety two when I
graduated from Virginia, I was college play of the year.
Doing that same year, Larry's Johnson Grandmama was the college
play of the year. He signed an eighty million dollar contract.
I signed and it wasn't right. It wasn't right after college,
(07:12):
like basketball season has started probably in September. So I'm
home with a with a retail job, and I wasn't
very good at good.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
At So by way of background, I want you all
to know I am coming in here with questions and
also an agenda. Don Stanley to me can do no wrong.
So I'm already biased, and I'm being fair about my
how biased I am. But last year when she lost
to Kim Moki and she wasn't able to make it
(07:46):
to the championship. Actually, when she lost to Kim Mokey,
I remember thinking, oh, what a bummer. She lost in
the semifinals, and I remember thinking what a bummer. I
really wanted to see her go far. I really wanted
to see her. She made it to the final four,
but I wanted to see her win another ship. And
it just wasn't don season. She didn't have the personnel.
(08:07):
There was Kim Molkie, who was a very decorated coach
who's already won championships in her own right. Everyone respects her.
But she had these two really beautiful players, several players
actually I'm not even just too. But Angel Reese was
the headliner. You all know who Angel Reese is. She
was the headliner. And it ended up being in the
championship IOWA versus LSU. So the headliner for LSU was
(08:31):
Angel Reese. The headliner for IOWA was Caitlyn Clark. And
it was black and white. Literally, Angel Reese is black,
Caitlyn Clark is white, and it all came to a
head in the championship game win. LSU ended up winning,
but Angel Reese decided to taunt and tease her give
(08:52):
and right as a winner, as a champion, I believe
one Kitlyn Clark and the optics did not sit well
for so many people. They were like, why is this
big black girl chasing down this white girl on the
court's she is a poor winners. This is not good
sportsman like conduct. Why is she behaving this way? And
Angel Reese took to the microphone when it was all
(09:14):
said and done with her championship trophy and her championship
gear and said, listen, y'all have been calling me ghetto
and this all year long, and that's just not true.
She was like, I am a good person and I
will not adhere to this narrative because I want take
a listen.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I don't fit the narrative. I don't fit in the
box that y'all want me to be in. I'm too hood,
I'm too ghetto. Y'all told me that all year but
when other people do it, y'all don't say nothing. So
this was for the girls that looked like me that's
gonna speak up on what they believe in.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's unapologized to you.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
It was bigger than me tonight, me tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So the scene is set. Everyone wants to see more
of Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Everyone wants to see
more of this battle. It's reminiscent of Larry Bird taking
on Magic Johnson. It's reminiscent of that particular rivalry because
the color lines are clear. It is a black girl
taking on a white girl. It is just a simple
(10:10):
It's just as simple. And so now we're locked in
because there's true rivalry. Now these ladies have handled themselves
as they should. Kudos to Angel, kudos to Caitlin. They
don't even adhere to the narrative that we've created in
different arenas, in different and different groups and different and
different analysts, if you will, weighing in on this, they
(10:32):
haven't even fed into that narrative. They want to play ball.
Angel's aware of it, but they still want to play ball.
But here's where my problem begins and ends. And I'll
start with this series of questions. As of late, Kim Moki,
not even as of late, Kim Moki has always been
a firecracker, the way she dresses, the way she handles
(10:52):
herself on the court. But the questions that I ask
myself are really simple. If she were black, would she
be able to get away with what she's doing? If
Kim Mochi were black, could she behave the way in
which she behaves? Could she say the things that she
says without the media holding her accountable or saying that
(11:13):
what she says is inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I say no.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Most recently, Angel Reese Lsu Kim Mochi taking on Don
Staley South Carolina and her team. It was for the
SEC championship. It's a conference championship. It's what you want
before you get ready to go to this tournament that
is happening today. Don and her team won, but it
(11:35):
got heated. One of Kim Moki's players, Flage, who I love, talented, talented,
talented player, also a rapper, super smart, didn't like what
happened in the game, and she started pushing people around.
She pushed one person, pushed another person, and then one
of Don Staley's players pushed her. The six foot seventh center,
(11:58):
big girl pushed her. She fell on her ass. And
this is what Kim Welky had to say.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
No one wants to see to see that ugliness. But
I can tell you this, I wish she would have
pushed Angel Reese. Don't push a kid that you six eight,
don't push somebody that little. That was uncalled for. In
my opinion, Let those two girls that were drawing, let
them go at it go at.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
My question is if she or a black head coach
in that very same position, could she get away with
that type of behavior. Conversely, when Don's player pushed Vage down,
this is what Don had to say.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You know, I just want to apologize to the basketball community.
You know, when you're playing championship games like this in
our league, things get heated. No paying intentions. They just
tried that there most is gotten so far ahead of
Hilt that sometimes these things have happen. Someone apologize for
us playing a part in that, because that's not who
(13:05):
we are and that's not what we're about. But I'm
happy for the players they way able to finish the
game and get us another championship.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Her response is emblematic of the type of coach she is.
She assumed responsibility. She said, this happens often when things
are heated, but it's still not okay. And I went
up to Flage and she apologized to me, and I
apologize to her, and things got a little out of control.
Don handled it like such a g and it didn't
(13:37):
get it didn't get out of control. In terms of
the media, they couldn't hold Don accountable and say get
your players their thugs or this or that. Don stopped
the narrative before it began. Because she is your favorite coach,
is coach, she is all of our favorite coach. She
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is truly a legend, and she's also aware of the
optics because she is a black woman. And I don't
want to divide anybody, but can someone help me because
I have some questions. Why is Kimochi allowed to say
and do what she wants and talks in such a
disrespectful way. She says she has a pure heart. She
(14:18):
says she doesn't mean to do anything wrong. She's very
heart she's very kind hearted. She just says what she says.
That is a luxury that I'm sure don Sale doesn't have.
That is a luxury that other head coaches, black or white,
in this business, in this women's game, more specifically, they
just do not have. And I watch as the media,
(14:40):
myself included, we don't hold Kimochy accountable. Why don't we say, hey,
kim Moochy, what you said is problematic. Hey Kimochi, you
say things often that are problematic. I'm really curious as
to why this legend, because she is in her own right,
this legend in the business can move the way she
(15:04):
moves without anyone holding her accountable. Take a listen to
kim when asked if she was in approbate. And it's
so out of control with the media right now.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You don't get this much attention when men do it,
So why do you keep writing it about the women.
It really comes across and I'll just say it, it
comes across as a little bit sexist.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
With that being said, as we embark on this tournament,
my hope obviously is that my team UCLA, my team
go Bruins. I hope you all win, but I want
you all to pay attention to the storylines, pay attention
to Kimulke and her players. Pay attention to Don Staley
(15:50):
and her players. I'm telling you as an eyewitness, I've
watched Don go up to her players and tell them
to act right, to behave to represent the school a
certain way. I've watched her do that because she wants
these women to grow up not only to be great players,
(16:12):
but to be great role models, to be great leaders
on and off the court. She holds her players accountable.
She wouldn't dare say I wish she would have tried
that with Angel Reese. She wouldn't dare incite another fight
if you will, as Kim Moki did, and I wonder
why that is okay. I don't know, Boo for thought
(16:39):
questions that i'd like you to ask yourself as you
watch this tournament. With that being said, though, congratulations to
the sport because it is growing in leaps and bounds.
It is growing. More people are watching women's sports than ever,
and I am so grateful that we are at a
time where we can watch this revolution and it is
(17:01):
because we need We needed our storylines, and we needed
our characters. Kaitlin Clark, we thank you. There are people, though,
I mean, if I'm being honest with you, as I
pause and I pause on purpose, there are people who
will say Kaitlin Clark is great, and I'm glad that
she was able to bring this type of attention, this
mainstream attention, but we cannot forget the Lynette Woodwards of
it all. Lenette Order was on this podcast Pearl More
(17:23):
if you will. There are so many legends that started
this game, this women's basketball game at the collegiate level,
and brought so much attention to it, but they did
not get this mainstream attention. And that's okay, because we're
here to give them their flowers. While I do believe
Kitlyn Clark's a great shooter and she's helped advance this sport,
(17:44):
there were others who did it before her, and we
should start acknowledging them. Here on Naked, we had Lynette
ordered on and we re aired that podcast. You guys
should go back and listen to it. She talks about
the differences between then and now, and gosh, they're so
great and vast. There was no there was no WNBA.
And when I tell you, that is the point of
(18:05):
growing the game. There's no bitterness, there is no issue
left behind. I believe Lynette is getting her just due now.
People are acknowledging her. She has a documentary. People are
paying attention to what she did for this sport, and
I appreciate that. But the point of everything is to
make progression, to progress, to be better, to be more.
That is what is happening now with women's college sports,
(18:28):
more specifically, I'm talking about basketball, and so to all
of those who who went before us and had to
deal with the less than, we appreciate you so we
can have more now. I hope you guys enjoy this tournament.
I ask you to watch the sport for what it is,
but I also want you to know there's still so
(18:49):
much more growing to do. There's still so much more
that needs to be said about this sport, and there
are still so many more that we need to be
holding accountable. The way that you use used to do
this sport, the way that you used to coach this game,
the way that you used to play this game is changing,
and I would say you should be held accountable. I'm
(19:10):
choosing my words carefully because there are people who enjoy
watching Kim Moulki and they know that she's a legend,
and they think she's done so much for the sport.
I know what she's done for the sport, but two
things can be true. The other part is yes, and yes,
she's a legend, and she's still to me can be
(19:32):
problematic in her interviews and the way in which she
treats her players and talks about other players, the way
in which she handles her interviews. She pouts, she's angry,
she's mean, she doesn't even try to pretend like she's not.
There's no common courtesy. Why is that okay? Why does
she have that that right when others learn to control
(19:55):
their emotions other coaches learn to give interviews, other coaches
learn to say what they should say. Why does she
not need to learn how to be because this is
who she is? Is that acceptable questions? I'm asking help me?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Help me?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Can you help me? I appreciate you guys for listening.
Means a lot to me. I got to go back
to watch these games, but I want to update my bracket.
I'm so glad that I can update my bracket and
this comes out just in time. I did not put UCLA,
my alma mater, in the final four. Please forgive me.
(20:33):
I just couldn't see my team getting past Iowa. Say
what you want about Kaitlin Clark. I do believe there's
a little extra ice on her in terms of people
are so happy because she is a white woman who
can play well. I do believe she's getting more media attention,
and I do believe that's not a bad thing in
the sense that she has brought more attention to this
(20:54):
game for women. But I just don't think UCLA can
get past her. Are you one of the better shooters,
if not best shooter, that we've seen in a long
time in the women's game, and by a long time,
I'm me within the last decade. I don't want to
disrespect the Lynette Woodards of the world or the Promores,
but she has has really amplified this game in a
(21:17):
different level. So shout out to Kaitlin Clark, Shout out
to my UCLA Bruins. I just don't see you guys
making it past Iowa, and I do see Iowa meeting
South Carolina in the championship game as mentioned, and Don
Staley getting a win, avenging the lost of last year
(21:38):
to Iowa. Those are my hot takes. If you are
watching March Madness, we got a couple of weeks. Please
weigh in, tell me your thoughts, get back to me
and I'll talk to you soon. Thanks for listening to
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