March 29, 2021 • 22 mins
Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever will, and this week’s guest has NO intention OF failing. On this episode, Freddie Gibbs gets naked with Cari Champion after his first Grammy nomination to tell why he has arrived in the rap game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So it is approximately near the end of March, and
I was thinking that it's been a year, one full
year since the world me myself specifically, have been in
this pandemic. And what was I doing a year ago today. Well,
(00:23):
if I'm honest with you, I was really sad. I
was really depressed. I had been on the phone with
the guy that I was dating on and off for years,
and he said that one he wasn't gonna come and
visit me during this pandemic because he was just so
concerned about catching the COVID, which is totally understandable. But two,
(00:46):
what that said to me in that moment, which was extreme,
But what it said to me was that I am
all alone. I'm alone in this condo, sitting here thinking,
Lord Jesus, what going to happen. My new normal was
to get up two exercise to call friends and check
(01:09):
on them via face time. But there was no human
interaction in terms of physical intimacy, and I thought I
was in trouble. And a woman with a career often
here's this. You chose your career. You didn't choose marriage,
you chose something else. That's why you're by yourself and
(01:31):
everything that I knew was different. The young lady who
got up and spoke to everyone in front of the
television every single day, with her red bottoms, in her
hair and her makeup. She was all that. She was cute,
and she was confident. She was no more, no more
in the sense of that defines me. I had decided
(01:53):
that I could no longer be ashamed or insecure or
worried about what people thought of me, or what I
was perceived as, or how people saw me in the
other world, which was in my real world. I had
to be me, and this past year I'm so comfortable
with that. I'm doing this podcast right now. Hang out
(02:16):
on a bra I know y'are getting excited. Calm down.
I know some sweats my hair and combed. In fact,
you could probably pull it off. I didn't secure it today.
Uh no lashes, And I'm just sitting here as comfortable
as I can be, as confident as I can be.
Because I had to learn who I was. I had
(02:39):
to talk to myself in a way where I was
getting real and I was like, look, this TV thing
can't define you. You are who you are. And I
am so confident, so much more confident than I was
a year ago in my own skin, which leads me
to today's podcast with Freddy Gibbs. His naked quality, it's
(03:04):
his confidence. It really hurt to see the rap community
not support you know what I mean That that really
hurt me the most cause I'm like, yo, man, like
I'm a rapper, I'm in the rap community, you know
what I'm saying. But I was really fighting for my
life and I felt like nobody came to my defense,
nobody like spoke up from me, and anything in the
(03:24):
next genocide execution would be televised. So cross me like
I said, that should be levied. Dark course, rap, black sheet.
They got me vilified, cast street niggers in their feelings
on at G will never let this in the street
beastline last met I do murder fair face. Don't need
no mass to disguise me through my in the stands.
(03:45):
I think that a self proclaimed outsider who doesn't want
to fit in. Freddie Gibbs says, this rap game is
filled with phonies. You heard him. He found himself in
the European jail for four months, and he knew that
that isolation would ultimately define his journey in hip hop.
I grew up as Frederick Jamaal Tipton as my that's
(04:05):
my government name. That's the slave name that I've obtained
through slavery and uh and I grew up on one
Virginia Street in Gary, Indiana. I don't know if you
know about that, but that's one of the roughest places
in the world. Broad And while Freddie describes Gary, Indiana
as a rough place by way of background, historically speaking,
(04:28):
during the Great Migration, that was a place for a
lot of black folks who wanted to leave the South
and head west. Once known for its bustling economy and workforce,
it's now a dead city. Not much to do there,
although I should mention it's produced some of the greats
Freddie Gibb not excluded, but the Jackson five and if
(04:49):
you're in the sports you know Glenn Robinson, the original
Big Dog, as well as his son. There's something about Gary,
Indiana that forces you to hustle. My parents were kind
young when they had me. You know. My mom was
like nineteen and my dad was like twenty three people
all lived on My grandma was like fifteen people in
the house. So you know, when you're sharing a bathroom
(05:10):
with fifteen people. You know, you're gonna develop a type
of drive that's gonna you know, that's gonna like not
let anything get in your way. Freddy describes his parents
as working class, blue collar, but that didn't mean much.
He still needed money if he wanted girls, and well
if he wanted attention. I introduced the like crack sales
(05:32):
at a young age. You know, um, Honestly, the first
person that I ever saw crack too was a guy
that worked at the post officer with my mom. He
came by the house one day and he was like, Yo,
I need some of that what's the name. I don't
need none of that weed? And I was like, whoa,
what you mean you don't need of that weed? He
was like, I'm want that other. And when he told
me he wanted that other, then you know, that was
my key to getting all the light skiing girls in
(05:53):
the Jordan's that I wanted. You know what I'm saying.
It was like, you know, it was at least five
hundred dollars a week coming from him alone. I just
got tired of skin dues that school having all the girls,
you know what I'm staying. So I was like, all right, man,
I gotta do something about, you know what I mean,
my situation, because you know, my parents don't bring in
enough money every year to you know, give me these
things that I want, you know what I mean. And
once I kind of like figured out that I can
(06:14):
make more money than my mom and my dad in
the household, and you know, it wasn't really too much,
you could tell him, Thank God that I didn't get
killed to go to prison in the process. Freddy was
a walk on at Ball State, and it didn't take
long for him to end up with a scholarship to
play football. He thought, at least he wanted to be
the next big sports superstar. But Freddy just was not
interested in school, and it didn't take long before he
(06:36):
realized that music would be what would save him. I
got kicked out of school because I wasn't going to
school like I was. My schedule at Bostad University was
going to football practice, bagging up you know for the weed,
you know, and and dope or whatever I had, and uh,
you know, messing with girls like school was definitely not
(06:56):
the objective when I was there. It was just football
all and whatever else came with that. You know. The
music was something that came after that. You know, it
was a blessing, you know, because I didn't really know
what direction that I was going to go in in
life period. I didn't know what there was to follow.
I didn't have a real the proper guidance in my life,
(07:17):
and um, the music kind of gave me that. You know.
I started hanging around like a couple of different homies
that just had different perspectives on life. So it's been
said that you are the sum total of the five
people you spend the most time with. And so what
Freddie is saying is that he had to change his surroundings.
He had to change the people who were in his
life in order for him to get that lifestyle he wanted.
(07:39):
For instance, taking inventory of all the people you can
get with, the five people you can get with the most,
and you will realize that you are a sum total
of those five people. For Freddie, being an artist would
change his lifestyle. It would give him all the things
he wanted as a kid, the light skinned girls, the
Jordan's money, the how was the respect, all the things
(08:02):
that he craved as a kid in Gary, Indiana was
waiting for him if he used this vehicle called hip
hop to change his life, shout a whole like a read.
But I never lead the books. Sick with the ACME
and Jack point three leaders up character say I missed you.
The rialm was always be leaving us caught up in
the moment, most biggest folding, the freezing up. Sometimes to
(08:23):
be your own damn holdless, Judah said, Jesus up. When
I wrote my first rap, I knew I visioned being
where I'm at right now. I didn't know how long
it was gonna take, or you know, or or what
I was gonna have to do to get it. But
I wanted to, like, uh, you know, become a millionaire
without being on the radio, and I did that. I
(08:44):
definitely visioned myself being Grammy nominated, about to take my
mom to the Grammys. I was like, Yo, if I'm
not gonna do that. If I'm not gonna do that,
then why am I gonna do this? If I wasn't
gonna like win a championship, then you know why I
was I even gonna start. So that was my mentality
from the jump more of Freddy Gibbs Naked Story in
just a few moments. Secondly, I had n't fishing back
(09:09):
when I was fishing for best want to listen to you,
kid cash, I got that dollars motherfucking credit school second.
(09:30):
So Freddy has been in the game for over fifteen years,
four Collapse, four solo albums, and a bevy of mixtapes,
and today, present day, Freddy can say that he's a
Grammy nominated artist. When I first got the Grammy, car
thought it was fake because like my phones blowing up,
you know, my best friends in it. So he was
like everybody was calling me, and I was like the
(09:51):
first thing I said, I was like, man, what I do?
I'm so kind? You know, everybody think I'm controversial. It
was like I was figuring, like, oh, man, I did
so what I say, I must you know what I mean.
But when I said when I saw my my name
next to NAS as a Grammy nommany, I was like,
oh yeah, I'm gonna win, I was like, I got
I'm gonna win. I was like yo, man, Like yo,
(10:13):
they got me up here with NAS and Jail Electronic
and all these cats. Man, but I feel like, you
know this, this is amazing. But then I had to
like get right back into my Freddie Gibbs Super confident
self and be like, you know what, I was the
best rapper out of all these rappers this year. This
is great for them. And while it was great for them,
it was also great for nas. Freddy. At least you
(10:36):
have a sense of humor. But I'm undefeated in court.
So Freddy is undefeated in court. And while that's funny
right now, let me give you guys in background. Freddie
spent four months in a European prison for a crime
that he did not commit, and two things happened, one
(10:57):
of which he was able. As mentioned a moment ago,
he was able to clear his name. But more importantly,
Freddy is really honest. It gave him a whole new
perspective on this rap game. I've been to jail before,
so you know the jail part of it, and being
like confined to like a cell, that wasn't the scary part.
(11:18):
The scary part was, you know what I mean. I
had just had a daughter. The scariest part of life
for me is not being able to provide for my children,
to be there for my children. So that was that
that made it extra scary. You know the girls in
that case, Um, yeah, I never I never even gave
him a high five. I never even I don't even
remember what they looked like, so like too accuse me
(11:38):
of something, you know, like that it was crazy, but
you know, God don't like ugly, and you know, these
those people and those people in that country, they committed
an ugly act against me. And you know, now I'm
shining everything happened for a reason, and it's crazy because
I never really said this either, but like, it really
hurt to see the rap community not so port, you
(12:00):
know what I mean? That that really hurt me the
most because I'm like, yo, man, like I'm a rapper,
I'm in the rap community, you know what I'm saying.
But a lot of these cats, they're not supporting my calls.
I see, like dumbass ship getting hashtag and supported on
Instagram and Twitter every fucking day, you know what I mean.
But I was really fighting for my life and I
felt like nobody came to my defense, nobody like spoke
(12:24):
up from me and anything in the next for very
few people, and those you know people, they know who
they are. None of these niggas fun with me like that.
So I don't fuck none of these niggas. Now That's
why I don't got no fucking rap bluddies. I don't
give a funk about being in the in crowd of rap,
you know what I'm saying. I don't care about who's
who whatever, you know what I mean, Like I could
count on one hand and rappers I fun with it.
I think a lot of these niggas as corny as funk.
(12:46):
I think they fake as fuck, you know what I'm saying,
And they ain't, you know, So I just like when
it comes to the rap community, man, I really be
like staying on myself and like really just uh, you know,
not really delving into like what everybody else do on
and and and paying attention to these niggas at all,
because like yo, I'll be trying to like really be
on some timeless music, classic type of ship. And while
(13:09):
it may sound like Freddy is going in on rappers
in this whole rap game, what I hear as a
man who has committed to evolving. You remember he said
he wanted to be a huge football star, but he
realized that wasn't his calling. It was the music that
led him to the life he would be known for.
And now Freddy's looking beyond rap, He's looking to do
(13:30):
other things. He sees himself evolving. Like I said, I
had to and I have to keep that. I'm going
to be the best at whatever I do mentality, no
matter what, are what I enter into, you know what
I mean? Because I know that, you know, it's definitely
life after rap. I'm not gonna wrap forever because I
don't want to just be boxed in as a rapper
or just you know, only taking not taking serious enough
(13:52):
just because I raped, you know what I mean. So
I want to be you know, only people respect my mind,
you know what I mean. I probably yet, I don't
know a couple more albums left in me, you know
what I mean. And then I definitely want to transcend
into the acting. I want to transcend and you know,
doing what you're doing, doing podcast anything, you know what
I mean. No, I never got into nothing while I
didn't feel like I was gonna be great at it,
(14:12):
you know what I mean. I just did um Um,
I just uh shot a movie um uh the whole
month in November and December. Um. This was the first
lead role that I ever got. Now you know, I've
been auditioning for like three years. You know what I'm saying.
I never got nothing big or nothing that I really
wanted to do, and you know, I was kind of
(14:32):
starting to get discouraged with the acting thing, and then
I was like, man, you know, I just gotta just
hang in there. And uh, when I did my last
album before the Alfredo thing, Um, the visuals that I
was making for like Cryme Pays and all of that,
you know what I mean, some director, a director um
in particular diego On Garo shout out to him. He Um,
(14:55):
I saw my videos and was like, Yo, this guy
is really like making his stuff very cinematic. And you know,
he had to give me the role in this movie
that he was shooting. So you know, now it's about
to be on like Sunday and film Festival, and you
know it was just an enormous opportunity for me, and
I you know, appreciate them forgiving me that. I'm not
(15:16):
surprised that a director gave Freddy an opportunity to be
a lead in a movie. It's because Freddie believes in
himself more than anyone else can. And I'm saying that
a little tongue in cheek, but the truth is is
he believes he can do anything. But it's interesting because
if you think about his trajectory dope dealer, ballplayer, rapper, artists,
(15:38):
and now actor, it's always been his confidence. I talked
about it earlier. That is his naked quality. But I
do believe we all have something much like the dimples
in my booty, Freddy has got to have something. My
biggest insecurity. Um hm, that's crazy. Uh maybe it used
(16:03):
to be my hair. I'm ball headed, you know what
I'm saying. I ain't had like the dress like Little Wayne.
I felt like I didn't have a look of like
a rapper that was supposed to be mainstream. I felt
like I just looked too thuggish for a while, maybe
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know. Maybe
that could have been it that that that that could
(16:24):
be my main insecurity. I don't really have that insecurity now.
But uh, like I don't know my biggest insecurity now.
I don't know, man, I don't know, man, I when
I make bad music, I don't know. But I don't
even let people hear that. So like I'm so like
particular about that, Like I don't know, but like I'm
so far and so you know good with God man,
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that I don't. I don't really, I don't really fear nothing.
I feel like insecurity is just like an extension of fear,
you know what I'm saying. Like, but like, I don't.
I don't fear nothing but God alt so I don't.
I don't really have no I'm not really insecure about nothing,
you know what I mean. When I was younger, uh,
you know, I had messed uff teeth. I had to
get braces, so I was insecure about that. I don't know.
(17:06):
I didn't have the best clothes and the best shoe.
Maybe I was insecure about that, you know, But I
got all that ship now. So so for somebody who
does not have anything to hide, and money can fix
whatever issues he may or may not have had, I
asked Freddie, when do we see you at your most vulnerable?
(17:29):
When I wrap, I bear it all. I bear my
whole that And I think that's part of the reason why, Um,
I've had such longevity, because um, you know, my authenticity.
I think that, you know, that's that's pretty much what
I hang my hat on, is the authenticity of my reps,
you know, because it's things that I could say, you know,
(17:50):
in my music, that are people we you know, it
a kind of like go over their head a little bit.
They'd be like, Okay, yeah, you know what I mean.
I could be like, like, for instance, I could be like, yeah, man,
I shot somebody in the alley, you know what I'm saying.
But when I like go on like a podcast and
be like I shot a crack like oh Joe Rogan
and everybody's like, oh, ship, you know what I'm saying
(18:10):
is So it's just like I'm like, all right, well,
you know what I mean. Like I'm saying these same
potent things and my music, but like when I'm saying
them in conversation, people like, what the funk? You know
what I mean? So that's probably when I'm my most
vulnerable bucket nicky. Confidence. By definition, that means a person
(18:30):
who believes in their abilities. And if I think about
Freddie Gibbs and I think about what we talked about
on this podcast, he definitely does believe in his ability.
In fact, we taped this before the Grammys. He was
for sure he was gonna win, but it's just an
honor to be nominated. To remember that. However, it was
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his confidence that said, oh yeah, no, I'm gonna win.
I believed him. You ever meet somebody who's so confident.
They talk such a good game and they also followed through,
But they talk such a good game that you believe
in what they say. That is a special ability, that
is something that very few people have, and I appreciate that.
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I believe that. For a very long time, I talked
a good game. I don't think I believed it, but
I talked a good game. And when it came down
to those real type moments where you had to be
honest with yourself and I'm talking to myself, I knew
(19:33):
that I was insecure, holy insecure, and secure about things
that really didn't define who I was. I didn't talk
about my characteristics that did not really reveal who I
was as a good human, a great heart, a good sister,
a good friend, a great lover, all of the things
that I am so proud of. I never really considered
(19:55):
that a great quality. My confidence was always attached to
who I was or what I was doing, not necessarily
to who the person was. I'm grateful for the pandemic.
I don't know how y'all feel, but I am grateful
for the pandemic because it taught me to love me
minus the lashes, minus the hair, including the dimples in
the booty. It taught me to love me. When I
(20:17):
look at someone like Freddie, quite frankly, I'm in awe.
I believe he believes in his confidence. I believe that
that is his truth. I believe he's not only talking
to the game, but he believes that this is the truth.
So I'm not surprised to see that he's a Grammy
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nominated artist, soon to be featured in his own movie,
soon to be doing who knows what else in a
short amount of time. Because he believes in himself. And
oftentimes you have to stop and have those moments, have
those times, have that instance that helps you believe in
who you are. For me, it was a pandemic. I
(21:02):
think if I wasn't stuck in the house, I don't
know if I would be sitting here telling you my truth.
I don't know if I wasn't stuck in the house,
I could sit here and tell you I feel good
about myself minus my lashes, minus the makeup. I mean,
they truly believe it, because I believe it. I'm fine.
(21:24):
Don't try to add me. I don't want no phone numbers.
I got enough people trying to holler because I'm fine
and I believe it. I hope you guys enjoyed this
edition of Naked with Carrie Champion. Yeah yeah, the revolution
that the genocide, the execution will be telefied. Don't cross
(21:46):
me like I said, that should be all dark, close, red,
black sheet. They got me feelified cast three niggers and
the feelings on a g will never let this industry
me pasculinized me. I do learn the fair face. Don't
need no master this guys me through my offending the stas.
I think the crackers left high me. You pull me, yo,
boy asked him your what's the problem, sir, I swear
(22:07):
to DUTR five holes man. I had no options. Certain
just let me go because my lif
So it is approximately near the end of March, and
I was thinking that it's been a year, one full
year since the world me myself specifically, have been in
this pandemic. And what was I doing a year ago today. Well,
(00:23):
if I'm honest with you, I was really sad. I
was really depressed. I had been on the phone with
the guy that I was dating on and off for years,
and he said that one he wasn't gonna come and
visit me during this pandemic because he was just so
concerned about catching the COVID, which is totally understandable. But two,
(00:46):
what that said to me in that moment, which was extreme,
But what it said to me was that I am
all alone. I'm alone in this condo, sitting here thinking,
Lord Jesus, what going to happen. My new normal was
to get up two exercise to call friends and check
(01:09):
on them via face time. But there was no human
interaction in terms of physical intimacy, and I thought I
was in trouble. And a woman with a career often
here's this. You chose your career. You didn't choose marriage,
you chose something else. That's why you're by yourself and
(01:31):
everything that I knew was different. The young lady who
got up and spoke to everyone in front of the
television every single day, with her red bottoms, in her
hair and her makeup. She was all that. She was cute,
and she was confident. She was no more, no more
in the sense of that defines me. I had decided
(01:53):
that I could no longer be ashamed or insecure or
worried about what people thought of me, or what I
was perceived as, or how people saw me in the
other world, which was in my real world. I had
to be me, and this past year I'm so comfortable
with that. I'm doing this podcast right now. Hang out
(02:16):
on a bra I know y'are getting excited. Calm down.
I know some sweats my hair and combed. In fact,
you could probably pull it off. I didn't secure it today.
Uh no lashes, And I'm just sitting here as comfortable
as I can be, as confident as I can be.
Because I had to learn who I was. I had
(02:39):
to talk to myself in a way where I was
getting real and I was like, look, this TV thing
can't define you. You are who you are. And I
am so confident, so much more confident than I was
a year ago in my own skin, which leads me
to today's podcast with Freddy Gibbs. His naked quality, it's
(03:04):
his confidence. It really hurt to see the rap community
not support you know what I mean That that really
hurt me the most cause I'm like, yo, man, like
I'm a rapper, I'm in the rap community, you know
what I'm saying. But I was really fighting for my
life and I felt like nobody came to my defense,
nobody like spoke up from me, and anything in the
(03:24):
next genocide execution would be televised. So cross me like
I said, that should be levied. Dark course, rap, black sheet.
They got me vilified, cast street niggers in their feelings
on at G will never let this in the street
beastline last met I do murder fair face. Don't need
no mass to disguise me through my in the stands.
(03:45):
I think that a self proclaimed outsider who doesn't want
to fit in. Freddie Gibbs says, this rap game is
filled with phonies. You heard him. He found himself in
the European jail for four months, and he knew that
that isolation would ultimately define his journey in hip hop.
I grew up as Frederick Jamaal Tipton as my that's
(04:05):
my government name. That's the slave name that I've obtained
through slavery and uh and I grew up on one
Virginia Street in Gary, Indiana. I don't know if you
know about that, but that's one of the roughest places
in the world. Broad And while Freddie describes Gary, Indiana
as a rough place by way of background, historically speaking,
(04:28):
during the Great Migration, that was a place for a
lot of black folks who wanted to leave the South
and head west. Once known for its bustling economy and workforce,
it's now a dead city. Not much to do there,
although I should mention it's produced some of the greats
Freddie Gibb not excluded, but the Jackson five and if
(04:49):
you're in the sports you know Glenn Robinson, the original
Big Dog, as well as his son. There's something about Gary,
Indiana that forces you to hustle. My parents were kind
young when they had me. You know. My mom was
like nineteen and my dad was like twenty three people
all lived on My grandma was like fifteen people in
the house. So you know, when you're sharing a bathroom
(05:10):
with fifteen people. You know, you're gonna develop a type
of drive that's gonna you know, that's gonna like not
let anything get in your way. Freddy describes his parents
as working class, blue collar, but that didn't mean much.
He still needed money if he wanted girls, and well
if he wanted attention. I introduced the like crack sales
(05:32):
at a young age. You know, um, Honestly, the first
person that I ever saw crack too was a guy
that worked at the post officer with my mom. He
came by the house one day and he was like, Yo,
I need some of that what's the name. I don't
need none of that weed? And I was like, whoa,
what you mean you don't need of that weed? He
was like, I'm want that other. And when he told
me he wanted that other, then you know, that was
my key to getting all the light skiing girls in
(05:53):
the Jordan's that I wanted. You know what I'm saying.
It was like, you know, it was at least five
hundred dollars a week coming from him alone. I just
got tired of skin dues that school having all the girls,
you know what I'm staying. So I was like, all right, man,
I gotta do something about, you know what I mean,
my situation, because you know, my parents don't bring in
enough money every year to you know, give me these
things that I want, you know what I mean. And
once I kind of like figured out that I can
(06:14):
make more money than my mom and my dad in
the household, and you know, it wasn't really too much,
you could tell him, Thank God that I didn't get
killed to go to prison in the process. Freddy was
a walk on at Ball State, and it didn't take
long for him to end up with a scholarship to
play football. He thought, at least he wanted to be
the next big sports superstar. But Freddy just was not
interested in school, and it didn't take long before he
(06:36):
realized that music would be what would save him. I
got kicked out of school because I wasn't going to
school like I was. My schedule at Bostad University was
going to football practice, bagging up you know for the weed,
you know, and and dope or whatever I had, and uh,
you know, messing with girls like school was definitely not
(06:56):
the objective when I was there. It was just football
all and whatever else came with that. You know. The
music was something that came after that. You know, it
was a blessing, you know, because I didn't really know
what direction that I was going to go in in
life period. I didn't know what there was to follow.
I didn't have a real the proper guidance in my life,
(07:17):
and um, the music kind of gave me that. You know.
I started hanging around like a couple of different homies
that just had different perspectives on life. So it's been
said that you are the sum total of the five
people you spend the most time with. And so what
Freddie is saying is that he had to change his surroundings.
He had to change the people who were in his
life in order for him to get that lifestyle he wanted.
(07:39):
For instance, taking inventory of all the people you can
get with, the five people you can get with the most,
and you will realize that you are a sum total
of those five people. For Freddie, being an artist would
change his lifestyle. It would give him all the things
he wanted as a kid, the light skinned girls, the
Jordan's money, the how was the respect, all the things
(08:02):
that he craved as a kid in Gary, Indiana was
waiting for him if he used this vehicle called hip
hop to change his life, shout a whole like a read.
But I never lead the books. Sick with the ACME
and Jack point three leaders up character say I missed you.
The rialm was always be leaving us caught up in
the moment, most biggest folding, the freezing up. Sometimes to
(08:23):
be your own damn holdless, Judah said, Jesus up. When
I wrote my first rap, I knew I visioned being
where I'm at right now. I didn't know how long
it was gonna take, or you know, or or what
I was gonna have to do to get it. But
I wanted to, like, uh, you know, become a millionaire
without being on the radio, and I did that. I
(08:44):
definitely visioned myself being Grammy nominated, about to take my
mom to the Grammys. I was like, Yo, if I'm
not gonna do that. If I'm not gonna do that,
then why am I gonna do this? If I wasn't
gonna like win a championship, then you know why I
was I even gonna start. So that was my mentality
from the jump more of Freddy Gibbs Naked Story in
just a few moments. Secondly, I had n't fishing back
(09:09):
when I was fishing for best want to listen to you,
kid cash, I got that dollars motherfucking credit school second.
(09:30):
So Freddy has been in the game for over fifteen years,
four Collapse, four solo albums, and a bevy of mixtapes,
and today, present day, Freddy can say that he's a
Grammy nominated artist. When I first got the Grammy, car
thought it was fake because like my phones blowing up,
you know, my best friends in it. So he was
like everybody was calling me, and I was like the
(09:51):
first thing I said, I was like, man, what I do?
I'm so kind? You know, everybody think I'm controversial. It
was like I was figuring, like, oh, man, I did
so what I say, I must you know what I mean.
But when I said when I saw my my name
next to NAS as a Grammy nommany, I was like,
oh yeah, I'm gonna win, I was like, I got
I'm gonna win. I was like yo, man, Like yo,
(10:13):
they got me up here with NAS and Jail Electronic
and all these cats. Man, but I feel like, you
know this, this is amazing. But then I had to
like get right back into my Freddie Gibbs Super confident
self and be like, you know what, I was the
best rapper out of all these rappers this year. This
is great for them. And while it was great for them,
it was also great for nas. Freddy. At least you
(10:36):
have a sense of humor. But I'm undefeated in court.
So Freddy is undefeated in court. And while that's funny
right now, let me give you guys in background. Freddie
spent four months in a European prison for a crime
that he did not commit, and two things happened, one
(10:57):
of which he was able. As mentioned a moment ago,
he was able to clear his name. But more importantly,
Freddy is really honest. It gave him a whole new
perspective on this rap game. I've been to jail before,
so you know the jail part of it, and being
like confined to like a cell, that wasn't the scary part.
(11:18):
The scary part was, you know what I mean. I
had just had a daughter. The scariest part of life
for me is not being able to provide for my children,
to be there for my children. So that was that
that made it extra scary. You know the girls in
that case, Um, yeah, I never I never even gave
him a high five. I never even I don't even
remember what they looked like, so like too accuse me
(11:38):
of something, you know, like that it was crazy, but
you know, God don't like ugly, and you know, these
those people and those people in that country, they committed
an ugly act against me. And you know, now I'm
shining everything happened for a reason, and it's crazy because
I never really said this either, but like, it really
hurt to see the rap community not so port, you
(12:00):
know what I mean? That that really hurt me the
most because I'm like, yo, man, like I'm a rapper,
I'm in the rap community, you know what I'm saying.
But a lot of these cats, they're not supporting my calls.
I see, like dumbass ship getting hashtag and supported on
Instagram and Twitter every fucking day, you know what I mean.
But I was really fighting for my life and I
felt like nobody came to my defense, nobody like spoke
(12:24):
up from me and anything in the next for very
few people, and those you know people, they know who
they are. None of these niggas fun with me like that.
So I don't fuck none of these niggas. Now That's
why I don't got no fucking rap bluddies. I don't
give a funk about being in the in crowd of rap,
you know what I'm saying. I don't care about who's
who whatever, you know what I mean, Like I could
count on one hand and rappers I fun with it.
I think a lot of these niggas as corny as funk.
(12:46):
I think they fake as fuck, you know what I'm saying,
And they ain't, you know, So I just like when
it comes to the rap community, man, I really be
like staying on myself and like really just uh, you know,
not really delving into like what everybody else do on
and and and paying attention to these niggas at all,
because like yo, I'll be trying to like really be
on some timeless music, classic type of ship. And while
(13:09):
it may sound like Freddy is going in on rappers
in this whole rap game, what I hear as a
man who has committed to evolving. You remember he said
he wanted to be a huge football star, but he
realized that wasn't his calling. It was the music that
led him to the life he would be known for.
And now Freddy's looking beyond rap, He's looking to do
(13:30):
other things. He sees himself evolving. Like I said, I
had to and I have to keep that. I'm going
to be the best at whatever I do mentality, no
matter what, are what I enter into, you know what
I mean? Because I know that, you know, it's definitely
life after rap. I'm not gonna wrap forever because I
don't want to just be boxed in as a rapper
or just you know, only taking not taking serious enough
(13:52):
just because I raped, you know what I mean. So
I want to be you know, only people respect my mind,
you know what I mean. I probably yet, I don't
know a couple more albums left in me, you know
what I mean. And then I definitely want to transcend
into the acting. I want to transcend and you know,
doing what you're doing, doing podcast anything, you know what
I mean. No, I never got into nothing while I
didn't feel like I was gonna be great at it,
(14:12):
you know what I mean. I just did um Um,
I just uh shot a movie um uh the whole
month in November and December. Um. This was the first
lead role that I ever got. Now you know, I've
been auditioning for like three years. You know what I'm saying.
I never got nothing big or nothing that I really
wanted to do, and you know, I was kind of
(14:32):
starting to get discouraged with the acting thing, and then
I was like, man, you know, I just gotta just
hang in there. And uh, when I did my last
album before the Alfredo thing, Um, the visuals that I
was making for like Cryme Pays and all of that,
you know what I mean, some director, a director um
in particular diego On Garo shout out to him. He Um,
(14:55):
I saw my videos and was like, Yo, this guy
is really like making his stuff very cinematic. And you know,
he had to give me the role in this movie
that he was shooting. So you know, now it's about
to be on like Sunday and film Festival, and you
know it was just an enormous opportunity for me, and
I you know, appreciate them forgiving me that. I'm not
(15:16):
surprised that a director gave Freddy an opportunity to be
a lead in a movie. It's because Freddie believes in
himself more than anyone else can. And I'm saying that
a little tongue in cheek, but the truth is is
he believes he can do anything. But it's interesting because
if you think about his trajectory dope dealer, ballplayer, rapper, artists,
(15:38):
and now actor, it's always been his confidence. I talked
about it earlier. That is his naked quality. But I
do believe we all have something much like the dimples
in my booty, Freddy has got to have something. My
biggest insecurity. Um hm, that's crazy. Uh maybe it used
(16:03):
to be my hair. I'm ball headed, you know what
I'm saying. I ain't had like the dress like Little Wayne.
I felt like I didn't have a look of like
a rapper that was supposed to be mainstream. I felt
like I just looked too thuggish for a while, maybe
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know. Maybe
that could have been it that that that that could
(16:24):
be my main insecurity. I don't really have that insecurity now.
But uh, like I don't know my biggest insecurity now.
I don't know, man, I don't know, man, I when
I make bad music, I don't know. But I don't
even let people hear that. So like I'm so like
particular about that, Like I don't know, but like I'm
so far and so you know good with God man,
(16:45):
that I don't. I don't really, I don't really fear nothing.
I feel like insecurity is just like an extension of fear,
you know what I'm saying. Like, but like, I don't.
I don't fear nothing but God alt so I don't.
I don't really have no I'm not really insecure about nothing,
you know what I mean. When I was younger, uh,
you know, I had messed uff teeth. I had to
get braces, so I was insecure about that. I don't know.
(17:06):
I didn't have the best clothes and the best shoe.
Maybe I was insecure about that, you know, But I
got all that ship now. So so for somebody who
does not have anything to hide, and money can fix
whatever issues he may or may not have had, I
asked Freddie, when do we see you at your most vulnerable?
(17:29):
When I wrap, I bear it all. I bear my
whole that And I think that's part of the reason why, Um,
I've had such longevity, because um, you know, my authenticity.
I think that, you know, that's that's pretty much what
I hang my hat on, is the authenticity of my reps,
you know, because it's things that I could say, you know,
(17:50):
in my music, that are people we you know, it
a kind of like go over their head a little bit.
They'd be like, Okay, yeah, you know what I mean.
I could be like, like, for instance, I could be like, yeah, man,
I shot somebody in the alley, you know what I'm saying.
But when I like go on like a podcast and
be like I shot a crack like oh Joe Rogan
and everybody's like, oh, ship, you know what I'm saying
(18:10):
is So it's just like I'm like, all right, well,
you know what I mean. Like I'm saying these same
potent things and my music, but like when I'm saying
them in conversation, people like, what the funk? You know
what I mean? So that's probably when I'm my most
vulnerable bucket nicky. Confidence. By definition, that means a person
(18:30):
who believes in their abilities. And if I think about
Freddie Gibbs and I think about what we talked about
on this podcast, he definitely does believe in his ability.
In fact, we taped this before the Grammys. He was
for sure he was gonna win, but it's just an
honor to be nominated. To remember that. However, it was
(18:51):
his confidence that said, oh yeah, no, I'm gonna win.
I believed him. You ever meet somebody who's so confident.
They talk such a good game and they also followed through,
But they talk such a good game that you believe
in what they say. That is a special ability, that
is something that very few people have, and I appreciate that.
(19:13):
I believe that. For a very long time, I talked
a good game. I don't think I believed it, but
I talked a good game. And when it came down
to those real type moments where you had to be
honest with yourself and I'm talking to myself, I knew
(19:33):
that I was insecure, holy insecure, and secure about things
that really didn't define who I was. I didn't talk
about my characteristics that did not really reveal who I
was as a good human, a great heart, a good sister,
a good friend, a great lover, all of the things
that I am so proud of. I never really considered
(19:55):
that a great quality. My confidence was always attached to
who I was or what I was doing, not necessarily
to who the person was. I'm grateful for the pandemic.
I don't know how y'all feel, but I am grateful
for the pandemic because it taught me to love me
minus the lashes, minus the hair, including the dimples in
the booty. It taught me to love me. When I
(20:17):
look at someone like Freddie, quite frankly, I'm in awe.
I believe he believes in his confidence. I believe that
that is his truth. I believe he's not only talking
to the game, but he believes that this is the truth.
So I'm not surprised to see that he's a Grammy
(20:40):
nominated artist, soon to be featured in his own movie,
soon to be doing who knows what else in a
short amount of time. Because he believes in himself. And
oftentimes you have to stop and have those moments, have
those times, have that instance that helps you believe in
who you are. For me, it was a pandemic. I
(21:02):
think if I wasn't stuck in the house, I don't
know if I would be sitting here telling you my truth.
I don't know if I wasn't stuck in the house,
I could sit here and tell you I feel good
about myself minus my lashes, minus the makeup. I mean,
they truly believe it, because I believe it. I'm fine.
(21:24):
Don't try to add me. I don't want no phone numbers.
I got enough people trying to holler because I'm fine
and I believe it. I hope you guys enjoyed this
edition of Naked with Carrie Champion. Yeah yeah, the revolution
that the genocide, the execution will be telefied. Don't cross
(21:46):
me like I said, that should be all dark, close, red,
black sheet. They got me feelified cast three niggers and
the feelings on a g will never let this industry
me pasculinized me. I do learn the fair face. Don't
need no master this guys me through my offending the stas.
I think the crackers left high me. You pull me, yo,
boy asked him your what's the problem, sir, I swear
(22:07):
to DUTR five holes man. I had no options. Certain
just let me go because my lif
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