May 15, 2023 • 45 mins
Styles P's name is synonymous with the Lox, New York, Hip Hop, and now a healthy lifestyle. Styles didn't grow up vegan/plant-based, but after making small changes over the years he adopted the lifestyle in order to intentionally transition his health, mind, and energy. In this episode, Styles elaborates on how he ventured into the business of creating healthier options in the neighborhoods that need them most.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Through juicing and just eating clean and exercise, and I
was able to lose a lot of weight. And then
besides losing the weight, I actually started seeing that I
used to have exam post Nazel drip, cyanaiis horrible temper
and all of those.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Things seem to go away with loving a healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So I found it important to bring it back to
my neighborhood and tell people.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey, everybody, that is styles P. You know from the locks.
He's vegan, he's here, he's trying to make everybody healthy.
I hope you enjoy and receive a little bit of
this advice.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
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Speaker 5 (00:57):
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Speaker 6 (00:58):
Canting that get working everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Welcome back to a new edition of Naked with Carrie
Champion and guys. This is season three. I'm really excited.
I'm excited about all the guests. We had Jamel Hill
to open our season and she talked about what was
going on with life after her memoir. It's really interesting
for me to know what the behind the scenes is.
People write these books all the time about who they are,
(01:22):
what they are, how life is, and we never really
follow up with them once it's all said and done.
So I appreciate my girl for coming on and telling
me more about life after uphill. Our second episode thus
far was Kirk Franklin, and you could tell I was
a fan, giddy as can be. I love me some
Kurk Franklin. He can do no wrong. And I also
I mean for me, that's the song I listened to
(01:44):
clean up the house. That's the song that I would
listen to with my mom on the drives to and
fro school. I still listen to him to this day.
He's narrated a lot of my life, for better and
for worse in terms of if I'm in a good
space or a bad space. So I was really excited
to have him on a Hope that blessed you all.
And then we go from Kirk Franklin to the Locks today.
How do we do that? That's what you do with
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naked David R. Styles on the show. You guys know
him Style P. He is a member of the Locks
and you guys remember I think arguably the most recent
versus battle that he had he the Locks Jadakis chic
that they had against Dips. That was really popular, really popular.
(02:27):
In fact, most people said that was the best there
ever was in terms of New York hip hop and
what it looked like. So today on the podcast, I
talked to Styles about obviously versus I'm sure you all
have heard his thoughts on that, but more importantly we
get into his new lifestyle. Styles new lifestyle which is
fairly old if you ask him, He's been doing it
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for the better part of two decades. But he truly
is on a mission to make sure that the culture,
whether that be hip hop culture, black and brown people,
that we are healthy mind, body, and spirit. He and
his wife have several businesses, several collaborations. He is vegan,
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he's plant based. Wasn't always raised that way, but listening
to him talk about when he decided to eat better,
how it changed his life, how he noticed that he
didn't have ezema anymore, how he had a better temperament.
You all know about his temper. He had been in
and out of jail. He had had a quick temper
all of the things that you would think would be
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just because you couldn't control your emotions. And he said
he realized that he had a chemical imbalance. And to me,
that's profound because oftentimes doctors will medicate you and give
you pills to take, as opposed to saying, hey, you
ever think about getting rid of cheese or not eating
red meat in your diet? And I am not want
to tell you I sit here and need healthy. I
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in moderation. But I did feel motivated by talking to him.
He had a very easy spirit. I hope that you
guys can sit back and appreciate it. I do know
that there are things about him that I don't love,
and I didn't get into that. I'm going to keep
it a buck. I know that he wasn't down with
Black Lives matter, he endorsed Trump in the twenty twenty reelection,
(04:17):
all those things I was not happy with. But I
will tell you, sometimes you have to separate the art
from the artist. And you know, I didn't feel like
getting I didn't feel like getting heavy on him.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That's not where I was. I was in a different space.
Because people can do good things and say bad things.
People can do good work and believe differently that is
his life. That is what it is. Sit back, relax,
enjoy this edition of Naked.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
And Care with Sheppy and they Care with Chappy Sala.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Thank you so much for joining us on the podcast.
I think that it's exciting to have you. I'm curious
it has been let me see. I read that just
recently you and your wife created a new line of PBNJ.
I think it's vegan, and you have an entire new lifestyle.
(05:09):
So your name is not only some synonymous with the
Locks and New York hip hop, but it is now
becoming known with healthy living, and the juxtaposition of the
two is fascinating to me. Talk to me about how
you grew up. Was healthy living always a part of
your lifestyle and you're just being more bold about it now?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Uh, definitely, not, to be honest with you, It definitely
was a part of my lifestyle. Fortunate from having a
career in hip hop and being able to move to
a more affluent neighborhood, I started noticing. I started noticing
the difference between the produce the supermarkets and just the
(05:48):
stores in general, and from having a wife who make
sure I was going on path of living a life
healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Combining the two made me sort of passionate.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And there was a time in my life when I
was two hundred and forty pounds. Through juicing and just
eating clean and exercising, I was able to lose a
lot of weight. And then besides losing the weight, I
actually started seeing I used to have ezema, post nasal drip,
cyaniis horrible temper and all of those things seem to
(06:24):
go away with living a healthy lifestyle. So I found
it important to bring it back to my neighborhood and
tell people, you know, because in hip hop is a
it's a braggadocia sport.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's all about you know, how much nice stuff you have.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But I felt it was important to let the people
know that you're your best asset. You're the thing that
you should invest in the most, yourself, your body, and
just started pushing it forward to see a change come
about in where we live and within our people.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I love everything that you just said.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well, first of all, I want to go back to
when you weren't eating well, and you notice that when
you made simple changes, simple changes your entire lifestyle, you
saw a difference. Exima post nasal drip, you were heavy,
you were two forty, all the things. How did that
come to you? Like, Oh, I got to lose weight.
Did the doctor say that if you don't lose weight
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you might die? Did you have bad blood pressure? What happened?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I was in the county pen. Fortunately this was many
years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I was in the county pen and got on the
scale and it was just I was two hundred and
forty pounds, and I just kind of wanted to make
the change for myself, and through making a change, you know,
before I was plant based, I was. I became plant
based in twenty thirteen by total mistake.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I went on a cleanse and just never went back.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
From two thousand and three to twenty thirteen, I was
pretty much a vegetarian, and but every year I ate
Thanksgiving with my family. But Thanksgiving at thirteen, I felt
very sluggish, heavy, felt like somebody hit me on my
side with a bat. So I said on New Years
I was going to go on a three week clean
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and I just never went back. I just kept kept going,
and it was such a difference, and not just my health,
but the way I viewed the world. I became less angry,
became more cool, became more more spiritually in tune, and
it just was a change that I felt was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know, I was just grateful for to be honest with.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You, I like the word grateful. So let's live there.
What was life like growing up for you? I read
whether I'm clear or not, Your mom's from South Africa?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yes, yes she is. My mom's from South Africa. My
dad's from Brooklyn. Growing up for me and growing.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Up, how did those two meet? Does the South African
meet the kid from Brooklyn? What howd that all go down?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
My mom made her way over here, she met my father,
She met my father.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
That was That was pretty much it. That was pretty
much it, and they had me and the story goes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But growing up in Yonkers, it was pretty I like
to say, it was rough but great.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was a you know, that was I'm forty eight,
so me growing up was.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
In the seventies and eighties, so it was a very
fun time, very different from what the kids do nowadays.
But it was rough, but it was great, soulful, and
just the black experience. Man, my experience is no difference
from any of the most black kids. And that grew
(09:53):
up somewhere that was pretty rough. It was rough, but
you managed to have good times, great times.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Actually, so I grew up in La right, I'm a
West Coast kid, and so there was always and I'll
just go into hip hop for us, it was gangster
rap like Snoop ice Cube Tupac all narrated my childhood
growing up. That was really where I what I knew
(10:20):
that was familiar to me. When did you know that
you had this talent? Were you hanging out with a
bunch of folks and they were like, Okay, this is
what you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Outside of like maybe hustling and try to make it happen.
How did you know this is where you were about
to make your money?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It was just how I felt.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I mean actually, before we got on, no one was
ever on from Yonkers.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So Kiss and Chic and myself we really had to chip.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
On our shoulders one from being from You know that
the five boroughs always get mentioned, But besides the Five Boroughs,
God Blessed the Dead Heavy d was from Mount Vernon,
which is the next town over from you. Because uh
Brand Nubian's was from New Rochelle. That's a few more
talents over, but it was like and Yer is directly
connected to the Bronx. So skipping over always pretty much
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gave us that that chip on our shoulder.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I pretty much always felt like I was I was
gonna make it, and we were gonna make it. And
just the professionalism of my two partners, even at a
very young age, getting with them even made the confidence higher.
So uh, I was always manifesting it. As a child
from watching Beach Street, I knew I wanted to be
in hip hop. Really Yeah that that, like I knew
(11:38):
it was delight for me at a very very young age,
So UH worked hard at it.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Bach Street Man, Can we find that on Netflix?
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Now?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Everyone who's listening, you gotta go check out b Street.
I love that. That was inspiration for you. Remember I
speaking of God blessed that at the Fat Boys?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Didn't they have?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
What did they have?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
What was?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Then?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
They have a movie?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Crush groving, crush grooving.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
All of what happened to those movies? Do we don't
make those no more? Those movies? We don't make those
movies no more.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
They don't make them no more at all.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That was our version of a musical.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, very much, up, very much Up. I totally agree
with you want to.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So then you you c b street, crush, groove all
of these things, and you know this is what we're
about to do. Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody mentioning yonkers, everyone
fulling with heavyd because he's from the next he's from
the next town over. And you get into this space
where I'm fast forwarding you guys make it. Yea, you
are known, you got bread, you got money, you got ladies,
(12:39):
all the things. This is when you are not living
this healthy lifestyle though. Correct, you're not talking about sea moss.
You not up here like we should all. I'm gluten free.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
At that time.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
If you would have told me I would be doing
this in the future, I may have laughed at you.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I would have thought I would be the last guy
picked to do this, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But through living that life, in that lifestyle, when you're
fortunate enough to see how fortunate you are, and you
you know, we're Yanker's boy, so we're always around with
like blue collar hip hop, so people are familiar with
being able to see us.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I trust we're very connected with the streets.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That that same connection with the streets made me understand
kind of.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
What the streets leader. So it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It was a necessary transition, and I would say I
was actually being groomed for it subconsciously without knowing. Like
I stopped eating pork at twelve on my own, I
stopped eating red meat my first year on Bad Boy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I just didn't like how, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I remember being on tour actually and driving through somewhere
in the Midwest, and it was land like for at
least a couple of miles land far back as you know,
I could see a long stretch of land, and I
just felt weird that, looking how the cows were placed
and herded and things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I stopped eating chicken two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So I kind of always been on the journey subconsciously
without knowing.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I think you know a lot of us, especially for
males when they hit me.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, black folks and black young males when they hit
the street, Like I am forty eight. So I told
you I was raised on an apple day. Keeps the
doctor away. Make sure you eat the veggies off your plate.
But as you get older on your outside and you're
hustling and you're moving back and forth, that's when you
start making the wrong choices. That's when you're at the
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fast food spot all the time you're traveling, you're always
on the move.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So you get used to eating fast food and out.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But I'm also from New York, so I was used
to the to the juice bars that the rosters had
and roster food here and there. So just as getting
older and making it, making the transitions and seeing what
was needed, I just started always started leaning towards the
healthier lifestyle. And for my debut album, Gainst and a Gentleman,
(15:18):
I was actually incarcerated. So from being incarcerated start making
me think, uh, I'm a little too smart, and why
do I get triggered so easily?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Why am I so angry?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And I figured I for myself that I had some
sort of chemical imbalance. So I started watching what I
was doing. And then when you get in a lot
of trouble, you have to learn how to change people,
places and things. So I started making actually my partner,
Nodu and Juices for Life, he had a juice bar
before then, and I would just frequent the juice bar
(15:51):
just to keep myself somewhere that was healthy and get
to be around a few individuals that thought out the
box different from me. Wasn't that many customers at the
time when he had a different it was called Fruits
of Life. But I told him, you know, I made
that my hangout spot. So people wanted to start coming
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to see me. They would have to come there, and
it kind of grew. And then he always asked me
to be in business with him, but I was like, nah,
just you know, learning the lifestyle, promoting it.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Then years later he left that juice bar.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
He was chilling for a while and then called me
up one day like, now you got to be my partner,
and he was off to the races, him and my
other partner, Juice Lee, and myself.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
So you said you're a part of blue collar hip hop.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm really fascinated because what is blue collar hip hop
to you? Because that speaks to your entire lifestyle and
how you've been able to transition. But I wonder what
blue collar lifestyle blue collar rap is for you give
me some groups.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Who would that be and are there anymore today?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I say, I say were the epitome of it would
be someone that that uh uh uh, that's in touch
with the people, that that that work hard, that are accessible,
that love the craft that put the hours in.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Uh. I would say care rast is definitely blue collar
hip hop. Public enemies blue collar hip hop. Those who
came before me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's definitely, you know, those who love the craft and
the culture and work hard for it and were accessible
to the people is what I consider blue collar hip hop.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I think with the Locks, with with our group, we
were able to take it a little further because we
throughout the fame, throughout the shiny stuff, throughout being on
uh some of the hottest record labels in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We will always in touch with the people. People will
always be able to find us.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It definitely started out of you know, being hardcore and
like with a group that doesn't need security. But but
but throughout that we were able to you know, we
always take pictures, we always hug our fans, we always
sign autographs. We've always been you know, for the people,
with the people like So that's blue collar hip hop
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for me.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Do you see that today?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Is there any artists today that you would be like, Oh,
I feel like that particular artist that rapper feels blue
collar to me.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I know the game has changed.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Now, it's so much.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
I wouldn't say I would say these you know, these
especially the new generation, and they're supposed to I'm glad
the new generation makes so much money, but I feel
this generation makes so much money and doe to technology.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
They don't really have to be. Technology kind of runs
everything Instagram.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Twitter, Uh, you know, you could do interviews over phones now.
So it depends how you feel about where you came
from and how in touch you are with it. So
you know, a lot of us are taught when you
make money, get away from where you're from.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So a lot of them are being scared in that direction.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So but there's definitely a few of them who I
would say is I would I would consider you know,
J Cole sort of.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
He's definitely upper echelon, but he does things that keeps
him in tune with the people.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know what I mean I would call I would
say Griselda.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's definitely, you know, their upper echelon, but they still
stay in tune with the people, and they're you know,
they're accessible. So I think that's that's what how accessible
you are makes you blue color.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Well, not even that the fact that you say blue collar.
I think of.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Just now, how you've been able to transition and what
you're doing even Okay, well let's just take it back
to when we were all living our lives at home
and we were watching the verses. It still felt very
real and authentic, you know what I mean. I remember
watching and thinking this arguably, and I'm sure you've heard
this too before the verses between you and Dipset, that
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had to be the locks and the gypst had to
be the best versus there was, right, people have said that, yes, yes,
we've heard that, And so tell me about that experience
for you. What was it like preparing for it and
what was it like mentally going into it, because you
have transitioned in so many ways. Was it just just
averse behind you and you just reached back forward or
(20:24):
felt authentic?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, it definitely was authentic because we was I felt
everyone that came before that people were you know, it
was more of a cool event, and us, being blue
collar hip hop, wanted to show people what goes behind
your craft, like knowing your work, being prepared. It was
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pretty much like a show for us, like we prepared
for our show as well, we prepare for the studio. Well,
like it's a lot that goes into hip hop that
people don't understand, like, we don't punch in the booth,
and that means when you heard it, I could do
I could lay a whole verse, get to the end
of it, mess it up.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm gonna do the whole thing over.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'm not going to have the guy punch me from
there because I want you to be able.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
To feel feel the energy.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So when we have a show, same thing, I'm not
gonna We're not gonna have the words, We're gonna We're
gonna give you the words over the instrumental so you
could you could feel that energy. You could feel and
understand that we were being very organic and very authentic
at the moment. So with craftsmanship comes up a lot
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of hard work and just the small details that people
really don't seem pay attention to or give accolades to.
So for versus, we just wanted to make sure that
I definitely didn't know it was going to turn out.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Like that and be one of the biggest, crazy, biggest things.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But it was beautiful to hear young people coming up
on you know what, I'm gonna learn my rhymes, I'm
gonna start practicing my show, and.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I'm gonna start actually being an artist, I'm gonna do
it for real. Yeah, I get.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was that was pretty cool, But we didn't we
didn't intend that outcome. We just really intended to show
people what goes behind when you, you know, especially challenge
somebody when when when it's a challenge, Like what made
it real was understanding that the pandemic was over.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It was like the first event everyone was going to. Uh,
when I.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Started seeing how many people were weighing in on it
was when the reality started hitting, when it uh to
understand it was a Masterson Square Garden to head to
Angie Martinez.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
On a radio say this is for the championship of
New York. All of that kind of made it into
a you know, it made it big. It felt like
it felt like a.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Super Bowl. It felt like a real main event like
show up.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yes, it did so even as the days got closer
and I remember.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Going going to rehearsal early and seeing Michael Buffer and
then it really hit me. And then you know, with
with the NBA.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Players and the baseball players and football players, everybody chiming
in on who they think was gonna win and people
going for that kind of made it really like, all right,
this is it's gonna it's gonna feel like Fraser versus
a League mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And by the way, you also, like you said that
next generation behind you, the artists these days hip up
artists these days, rappers these days didn't do what you
all did.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
You set a.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Standard and quite frankly introduced your reintroduced yourselves. What was
What did that feel like for you? Did it feel
like a second coming out, a chance for a career,
or did it feel like this is what we deserve.
I feel like everybody who starts the game, everyone is
standing on you. You'll shoulders. Everyone can stand on your shoulders.
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And it was a reintroduction.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I think it felt like just the reason why you
stay on a why you why you do your work.
It was more like, uh, you know, to be respected
by your peers and fans for years one. We've been
through multiple generations and were still around. And it was
more so like I guess, just showing that work and
showing that work ethic and then getting the accolades for that.
(24:13):
It definitely was like a reintroducer because the world had odds.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
On us like we were.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I guess it solidified us in the legendary group slot.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
For people who didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Us, so they've got to get the information on exactly
who the locks were what they did. But I like
to stay in a humble place with the craft and
to be honest for kids out there and work. You know,
you solidify yourself by just dedicating yourself to the work.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Moments can't make you.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's you know, it's the what you did all of
the moments to get to the moment that actually makes you.
So you know, you like to stay on a stay
on a humble plane. Grateful for the acolades that have
came after it. And but fortunately we've been able to
work with some of the greats, So you know, we've
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worked with pretty much all of the greats, and I'm
sure so it felt good to be to get the recognition,
but also we just like to keep ourselves on a
humble plane and you know, keep it pushing from there.
It also I was happy of things like the kids
wanted to do their work, and then people will.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Also we're like, oh we see you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Healthy lifestyle come in effect up there, like we see
that try to get tired.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I knew every word you have the energy, so.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
One hundred percent, one hundred percent. The performance for me
was it yeah, because they don't do that no more.
They do not do that anymore. Everyone runs out of breath.
You could just tell you, like, nobody in shape, but
what are you doing? I think that's I one hundred
percent agree with that. With that, With that, you guys
know what I'm going to say. You have to fast
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Cat Nick, you were Hey, everybody, I appreciate you for
supporting and listening. Uh and again I repeat this for
those who are just now joining the podcast. I know
that Styles have said some controversial things. More specifically, at
one point he denounced by Lives Matter. I know that
he also supported Donald Trump in a reelection, and I
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know that he clarified its thoughts on that and there
was a thought process behind that. But I do know
also two things can be true. He really is dedicated
to building up the black community. He wants to make
sure that black and brown people are spiritually healthy, mentally healthy,
physically healthy, which is why his transition from being a
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hip hop artist, which he still is, but his transition
from being a hip hop artist to a vegan and
a vegan lifestyle and promoting it is really fascinating to me.
I hope that you learned something today, and again I
implore you to separate the art from the artists.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
If you can take a listen.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Congratulations to you and your wife, and you're in the
businesses that you have. Can you go down all the
businesses I want to make sure I know you said
you have.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Far. We have Pharmacy for Life.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It's an e commerce but now we have a brick
and mortar located in Scarsdale, New York. We have Juices
for Life, which is now have six locations, three in
the Bronx, one in Brooklyn, one in Yonkers, and one
in White Planes.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We just opened the White Plane.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
You have one with Angela. Did you do a business?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Basically that's the Brooklyn location.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Okay, so okay.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Pharmacy for Life, Juices for Life.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
My wife has written a book, The Ethereal Hype, just
how to discern the privilege of laws through the power
of Love. She's working on the second book. I stay busy,
I work a lot. I'm from from the Locks, of course,
I have a solo.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Are you a doctor like you?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Are you like one of those friends I come over
but you know my back hurt or shoulders messed up?
Are you the person I be like?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I've become that over the past few years for my friends.
One because I feel like we especially as brown.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
People, black people and all people like uh.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Often this lifestyle has been put in a box like
it's for Islanders, foreign black people, or rich white people,
and being healthier for everybody. You don't have to be
Although I am a tea hugger and a granola person,
you don't have to be a tree hugger, granola person.
You don't have to be in a certain box. You
could like designer clothes and love a healthy life. You
could like material items and love a healthy life. You
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could like hip hop and live a healthy lifestyle. So
I think people often have put a healthy lifestyle in
a box, like it's only for certain people, and we
work hard to say it's not for certain people, it's
for everybody. You only get one body treated as well
as you can do the best you can. We don't
tell you how to run around and be a vegan,
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run around and be a workout fanat day. But if
you drink on Friday night, you drink on Saturday night,
Sunday and Monday. Eat some plants, eat some fruits, eat
some veggies, dring some lemon water, cleanse out, balance it out.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Just we just preach balance and try to eat better.
Like even my friends. I have friends who still eat
chicken meat.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I just tell them, you know, make sure us know
anybodyotics in it, make sure it's homeon free. Uh, just
make better decisions because we'll we we like nice stuff
like we'll you don't mind spending on a like think
of our iPhones are expensive, Retro sneakers are expensive, new
really sneakers are expensive design and clothes are expensive. Jewelry
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is expensive, but people all often complain about the price
of what they're putting in their body.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If you could wash the outside of your body multiple
times a day, keep.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
It clean, wear the best clothes, take your take your
time to Nobody puts bullshit gas in they call bullshit
oil you want, you want by gas you want good
or people don't even feed their pets back. But when
it comes to ourselves, we tend to think it's okay
to take shortcuts or not eat proper. You know, healthy
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foods too expensive, so we just make sure we eradicate
and get rid of that kind of that that that
that thought pattern.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
You said that the food you realized what you were eating.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Meant you had a chemico chemical balance for sure, imbalance,
imbalance based on your short temper. When you started to
eat better, your temper started to be more even definite.
And what else did you notice outside of your skin?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
More more peaceful, more peaceful like that more peaceful and
able to understand that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh, to put it in a clay away. I own
the energy.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Like if you feed into negative energy, you get a
lot of negative energy. You feed into positive energy, you'll
get the more positive energy, so just more so manifesting
the energy. And nobody's perfect. Like not saying I don't
you know, har a negative energy at all now, that
would be an absolute lie. But to say I feel
like I'm one ady negative, one ad positive. I just
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know how to operate on the positives. I could choose
to positive and stay on that side. And just being
in peace, just actually just being in peace as much
as possible, even though I'm not that all the time.
It's a constant journey to get where you where you're at.
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When I probably really achieve it, I won't be on
earth anymore. I would think it'd be my time for sure.
Sure to somewhat different, but it's the journey of working
on it and striving to be the best one could
possibly be.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
You seem so peaceful, you seem so kind, very sweet,
these adjectives I'm using. Would that have been the case
ten years ago?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, but you would have gotten Yeah it was well
on the journey ten years ago, but not as I
would have been, not as much, like not as much.
And the journey, the journey brings you places like you know,
and uh, I've always been a gangster and a gentleman.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yes, why not talk?
Speaker 6 (33:11):
I think they both go together.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Both now just learned me and on the gentleman's side
a lot more.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I am an elegant hood lady, so I can relate
very much. So okay, so I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay, so wait, talk to me about I just read
because you know, I'm reading all the articles. You have
a new project coming out or you're working on a
new project, and also I think the locker doing it
out there. Tell me what you're doing on.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
An album and I'm working on my last solo album
and actuality, Uh this will be my last solo album
that I want to take a break.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Is a solo artist?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Why?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I work a lot. As you see, I have pharmacy
for life, juices for life. Oh and I forgot.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
The Peanut Butter is a collaboration with eleven Madison Park,
which is the only plant based Michelin Star restaurant and
Chef World renowned chef and I, my wife and myself
we put together the PBJ to connect people who are
plant based from everywhere. So it is a high end
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peanut butter, but it is.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It is great.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
So you're telling me I got to spend thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
On something we.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
But it's well worked because you're not that you find
too much peanut butters with maca and h seymours in it,
and that's what actually takes very excellent And if you
look up I was going to say Madison Park, you
would understand, you know why why it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
But we just wanted to make sure we hit you know,
we hit all sides of the world.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Like our juice bars are in food deserts, but like
our Pharmacy for Life is located in Scarsdale, one of
the wealthiest towns in America. The collabse with one of
the most high end restaurants there are. So there's no
such thing as a box when it comes to health.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We're hitting it. We plan on hitting it all.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And we want kids who's coming up under us to
understand you don't have to limit yourself.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
And you put them in food desert your juice bars
for what reasons.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Because kids from the hood they need to understand or
put fruits and veggies in their body in with you know.
With that being said, the better you feel, the better
you think, Like if you feel better about yourself, if
you feel healthier, it makes you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It makes you glow, not only on the outside but
on the inside.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So you really when you have a glow, and most
people are glowing with a certain sort of glow, it's
because they're really good inside. And I don't just mean healthy,
I just mean you know, they could people inside, So
that glow comes from inside out. So when you're eating better,
that also contributes to you being able to feel better.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
When you feel better, you treat people.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
When you treat people better and feel better, you just
happen to look better without even knowing it. And that
energy transfers when you transfer to someone else and are
able to be a help to someone else.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
In the world.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
How would you talk to you?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I'm talking to black man specifically, because I know
so many who just prefer to eat like two year olds.
They're like, no, meat and cheese and bread is good.
That's all I want, meat, cheese, bread, Like no, they
don't deviate from that. I think there is this perception
of eating healthy isn't manly isn't.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Especially we do deal with that a lot. Well, what
I straight up.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Now I'm learning to be more graceful, but I inform
them of how stupid that train of thought is because
I mean, think about it from you. You know how
it is in a hood in Cali. You know how
it is in the hood in New York. The number
one theme in all hoods worldwide, especially across America, it's survival, right,
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Like everybody in the hoods theme is I want to survive,
And that comes first to mind. Now, if you want
to survive, it makes more sense to take care of yourself.
You survive longer. Don't wait to get the jail and
start working out, don't wait to get the jail and
start reading. Yeah, So we just put in people mind
that eating healthy is a part of survival, and survival
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is always the main theme in the hoods. So and
we like to tell people start investigating what they're putting
in their body, like you can't think it's once you
start getting the information and understanding, like you know, you can't.
You can't keep going on with the stigma of that's
all you need. You definitely need fruits, you definitely need veggies.
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If you don't get the right source of vitamins and minerals,
you need supplements, you need water, you know. So we
just we just fight the good fight, like we don't
we tell people because we care about them. So we're
giving you the information because we care. If we didn't care,
was no need for us to give the information. And
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then we also inform people that if you take your
time to look it up and look some things up
and see what's going on, you understand that like a
lot of people, it's the simple things like for me.
For me, I remember years ago and I'm going, damn,
I name. You know, I'm in my thirties, But why
did I question it for years? If a juice is
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eighty three percent juice, but the hell is the other
seventeen percent?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But I never thought about it?
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah you should, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So when you start thinking about the things you're not
thinking about, and you pointed to people like if you eat,
like even with me as a plant based person, I'm
not growing my food, so I can't say it's all
the way creating healthy. I'm pretty sure some farms sprayed something,
did something, or some someth's coming across where you know,
it's not all the way healthy.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Now out, but I felt much safer ian and unhealthy
batch of veggie's.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Then then an unhealthy paid chicken or cal and I
have no idea where it's from.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Like think about it, like where was last night's chicken?
Where was last night's chicken from? What state? What country?
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Was?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Was it a female? Was it sick?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
How did it feel? Did it get detached from his parents?
How was its emotions? These are things we don't think about,
but if you do think about it, it makes you
start changing your You know, I feel we're all programmed
to a certain extent, and it's about changing a program
because people go on, my grandmother did it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well, your grandmother didn't have as much an opportunity as
you did.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
And your grandmother was and she wasn't dealing with a
time where they was throwing a bunch of stuff in
the food anyway.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
So it's two different, two different things.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
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Speaker 5 (40:00):
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Speaker 3 (40:20):
N you working as you're talking I'm all like, when
last somebody has some water today, you know what I mean?
Just things like that you think about you when you
and then there are moments when people I know this
because obviously living in California, there's too many vegan places
for you not to try it, and it seems like
regular food, right, hopefully you're eating healthy depending on where
you go, right. But the reality is is that everyone
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I know who has decided to do that, to make
that lifestyle change, has had a moment where they've been
sitting across from somebody and I was just saying it,
starty boy getting a steak. Someone cut into a steak
and it's bleeding and you're like, want that inside of
my body? And like I'm like listening to you say it,
I'm all like, and then sometimes you just like it
out and be like, oh I do need this. I
do miss my protein.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
I want it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Same with a chicken. Watching a chicken looking at the
actual legs and the wings pull apart, You're like, damn,
I moll to heat a chicken, you.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
So you have your ice like, you have these moments
and then you know it goes away. But I do
agree with you.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
It's only a matter of time. You talked about a lifestyle,
and I'm like, it has to happen. I don't know
what eventually, you know, for.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Me easing into it like you say, like I tell
people instead of just jumping into it, I always advise
people to pick a day out the week, like say Sunday.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Say Sunday, I'm not going to eat no meat.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I may eat like a vegan or plant based person
or whatever you want to call it, and do that
for four Sundays, and then next month maybe you could
add a day. Maybe it could be Sunday and Monday
for two weeks out of the thing, and then you
just gradually go on because even as a it, you know,
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I don't mean to sound but in my mind, I
can't go back because I can't make a chicken or
a cow less valuable than my dog.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I just know, Like you don't.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
I'm saying, oh my god, don't.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Okay, Like if you was on a farm and raising
chickens and raising cows, I'm pretty sure you it.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
May have some sort of connection to them or you know, the.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Same way, because there are places in there are countries that.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeh, that's a delicacy. Maybe I heard that, Yeah, so
you're right, and I'd be like, I'd be so grossed
out by that. And they're like, this is a way
of life, this is what we eat. Okay, So I
need before I let you go, I need you to
tell me. I need you to tell me where people
can go to support all businesses. Is there one site
that you have so they can I know that. For instance,
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my producers are like, let me try some of.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
You can go to.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So go to Pharmacy for Life dot com. I would say,
and uh with with juice, I tell everybody make sure
you get your own blended. Like if you go to pharmacy,
you'll go to our resource center. It'll tell you exactly
what our products do for you. So for those who
don't have a credit card, they can't buy our products online,
at least you could get the information to see what
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they do for you. You cold to you could look
at Juice for Life, take a picture of our menu,
take a picture of anybody's menu, but get a juicer
at home.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Because the best way to lead is by example.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
So if you go out buying juices every day, your
significant other, your child, your parents, your parents, whatever, they
learn better by example by seeing you constantly do it
and put the work in, and then it becomes a
family event where you know, especially people with children.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I would say, have your children put the fruits and
veggies and the juicer. Make them part of it so
they can understand what it's about. So yeah, you can
check us.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
At Juices for Life on Instagram, Pharmacy for Life on
ig also, but the Pharmacy for Life dot com.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Can you doctor Savage for you go? Can you tell
me what I can do for can you tell me
what I can do to make no kid? I kidd it,
I kid. When I meet you again, I in person,
I'll make sure I'll ask for all the advice. I
appreciate you doing this, and I appreciate your patience, and
you have a great spirit.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
I'm thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I appreciate its beautiful show.
Speaker 6 (44:32):
Thank you, You're so sweet. I appreciate you. Have a
wonderful day. Take care of your family. Take care. Hey everybody,
that is it. We're about to go. I have to
go and figure out a few things. Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I was on vacation this week, so it was really
hard for me to sit down and do my podcast.
I was in Miami. I went to Formula one. The
race was nice, but Miami makes you feel like you're
rich and you could just hang out at the beach
all day and do nothing.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
That is not the case.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
By the time you hear this podcast on Monday, I'll
be back on the grind at work, doing the things
that I normally do, which is pay the bills and
complain a little bit. But I had a wonderful, wonderful time.
I think I'm going to be a F one fan.
I do like what they do, although, although I add this,
I don't like the fact that the cards driving circles
for fifty to sixty laps. I might have to do
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a minif one. That means I don't have to pay
attention to all of the laps. Secondly, by the time
you hear this podcast, my Lakers have wrapped up the
series and they are on their way to the Western
Conference Finals.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Praise the Lord. Hopefully I do. On jinx it.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
If you're not a lebron fan, you hate greatness. I
will talk to you guys next week.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
Love y'all,
Through juicing and just eating clean and exercise, and I
was able to lose a lot of weight. And then
besides losing the weight, I actually started seeing that I
used to have exam post Nazel drip, cyanaiis horrible temper
and all of those.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Things seem to go away with loving a healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So I found it important to bring it back to
my neighborhood and tell people.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hey, everybody, that is styles P. You know from the locks.
He's vegan, he's here, he's trying to make everybody healthy.
I hope you enjoy and receive a little bit of
this advice.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
It's the greatest disperse in entertainment. Connect Get with Kerry
Champion and carry Chappion. Is to be a champion, a
champion and carry CHAPPI and the Yata Champion and carry
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Speaker 5 (00:57):
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Speaker 6 (00:58):
Canting that get working everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Welcome back to a new edition of Naked with Carrie
Champion and guys. This is season three. I'm really excited.
I'm excited about all the guests. We had Jamel Hill
to open our season and she talked about what was
going on with life after her memoir. It's really interesting
for me to know what the behind the scenes is.
People write these books all the time about who they are,
(01:22):
what they are, how life is, and we never really
follow up with them once it's all said and done.
So I appreciate my girl for coming on and telling
me more about life after uphill. Our second episode thus
far was Kirk Franklin, and you could tell I was
a fan, giddy as can be. I love me some
Kurk Franklin. He can do no wrong. And I also
I mean for me, that's the song I listened to
(01:44):
clean up the house. That's the song that I would
listen to with my mom on the drives to and
fro school. I still listen to him to this day.
He's narrated a lot of my life, for better and
for worse in terms of if I'm in a good
space or a bad space. So I was really excited
to have him on a Hope that blessed you all.
And then we go from Kirk Franklin to the Locks today.
How do we do that? That's what you do with
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naked David R. Styles on the show. You guys know
him Style P. He is a member of the Locks
and you guys remember I think arguably the most recent
versus battle that he had he the Locks Jadakis chic
that they had against Dips. That was really popular, really popular.
(02:27):
In fact, most people said that was the best there
ever was in terms of New York hip hop and
what it looked like. So today on the podcast, I
talked to Styles about obviously versus I'm sure you all
have heard his thoughts on that, but more importantly we
get into his new lifestyle. Styles new lifestyle which is
fairly old if you ask him, He's been doing it
(02:49):
for the better part of two decades. But he truly
is on a mission to make sure that the culture,
whether that be hip hop culture, black and brown people,
that we are healthy mind, body, and spirit. He and
his wife have several businesses, several collaborations. He is vegan,
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he's plant based. Wasn't always raised that way, but listening
to him talk about when he decided to eat better,
how it changed his life, how he noticed that he
didn't have ezema anymore, how he had a better temperament.
You all know about his temper. He had been in
and out of jail. He had had a quick temper
all of the things that you would think would be
(03:33):
just because you couldn't control your emotions. And he said
he realized that he had a chemical imbalance. And to me,
that's profound because oftentimes doctors will medicate you and give
you pills to take, as opposed to saying, hey, you
ever think about getting rid of cheese or not eating
red meat in your diet? And I am not want
to tell you I sit here and need healthy. I
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in moderation. But I did feel motivated by talking to him.
He had a very easy spirit. I hope that you
guys can sit back and appreciate it. I do know
that there are things about him that I don't love,
and I didn't get into that. I'm going to keep
it a buck. I know that he wasn't down with
Black Lives matter, he endorsed Trump in the twenty twenty reelection,
(04:17):
all those things I was not happy with. But I
will tell you, sometimes you have to separate the art
from the artist. And you know, I didn't feel like
getting I didn't feel like getting heavy on him.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
That's not where I was. I was in a different space.
Because people can do good things and say bad things.
People can do good work and believe differently that is
his life. That is what it is. Sit back, relax,
enjoy this edition of Naked.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
And Care with Sheppy and they Care with Chappy Sala.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Thank you so much for joining us on the podcast.
I think that it's exciting to have you. I'm curious
it has been let me see. I read that just
recently you and your wife created a new line of PBNJ.
I think it's vegan, and you have an entire new lifestyle.
(05:09):
So your name is not only some synonymous with the
Locks and New York hip hop, but it is now
becoming known with healthy living, and the juxtaposition of the
two is fascinating to me. Talk to me about how
you grew up. Was healthy living always a part of
your lifestyle and you're just being more bold about it now?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Uh, definitely, not, to be honest with you, It definitely
was a part of my lifestyle. Fortunate from having a
career in hip hop and being able to move to
a more affluent neighborhood, I started noticing. I started noticing
the difference between the produce the supermarkets and just the
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stores in general, and from having a wife who make
sure I was going on path of living a life
healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Combining the two made me sort of passionate.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And there was a time in my life when I
was two hundred and forty pounds. Through juicing and just
eating clean and exercising, I was able to lose a
lot of weight. And then besides losing the weight, I
actually started seeing I used to have ezema, post nasal drip,
cyaniis horrible temper and all of those things seem to
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go away with living a healthy lifestyle. So I found
it important to bring it back to my neighborhood and
tell people, you know, because in hip hop is a
it's a braggadocia sport.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's all about you know, how much nice stuff you have.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But I felt it was important to let the people
know that you're your best asset. You're the thing that
you should invest in the most, yourself, your body, and
just started pushing it forward to see a change come
about in where we live and within our people.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I love everything that you just said.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well, first of all, I want to go back to
when you weren't eating well, and you notice that when
you made simple changes, simple changes your entire lifestyle, you
saw a difference. Exima post nasal drip, you were heavy,
you were two forty, all the things. How did that
come to you? Like, Oh, I got to lose weight.
Did the doctor say that if you don't lose weight
(07:21):
you might die? Did you have bad blood pressure? What happened?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I was in the county pen. Fortunately this was many
years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I was in the county pen and got on the
scale and it was just I was two hundred and
forty pounds, and I just kind of wanted to make
the change for myself, and through making a change, you know,
before I was plant based, I was. I became plant
based in twenty thirteen by total mistake.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I went on a cleanse and just never went back.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
From two thousand and three to twenty thirteen, I was
pretty much a vegetarian, and but every year I ate
Thanksgiving with my family. But Thanksgiving at thirteen, I felt
very sluggish, heavy, felt like somebody hit me on my
side with a bat. So I said on New Years
I was going to go on a three week clean
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and I just never went back. I just kept kept going,
and it was such a difference, and not just my health,
but the way I viewed the world. I became less angry,
became more cool, became more more spiritually in tune, and
it just was a change that I felt was.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You know, I was just grateful for to be honest with.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You, I like the word grateful. So let's live there.
What was life like growing up for you? I read
whether I'm clear or not, Your mom's from South Africa?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yes, yes she is. My mom's from South Africa. My
dad's from Brooklyn. Growing up for me and growing.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Up, how did those two meet? Does the South African
meet the kid from Brooklyn? What howd that all go down?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
My mom made her way over here, she met my father,
She met my father.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
That was That was pretty much it. That was pretty
much it, and they had me and the story goes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But growing up in Yonkers, it was pretty I like
to say, it was rough but great.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was a you know, that was I'm forty eight,
so me growing up was.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
In the seventies and eighties, so it was a very
fun time, very different from what the kids do nowadays.
But it was rough, but it was great, soulful, and
just the black experience. Man, my experience is no difference
from any of the most black kids. And that grew
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up somewhere that was pretty rough. It was rough, but
you managed to have good times, great times.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Actually, so I grew up in La right, I'm a
West Coast kid, and so there was always and I'll
just go into hip hop for us, it was gangster
rap like Snoop ice Cube Tupac all narrated my childhood
growing up. That was really where I what I knew
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that was familiar to me. When did you know that
you had this talent? Were you hanging out with a
bunch of folks and they were like, Okay, this is
what you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Outside of like maybe hustling and try to make it happen.
How did you know this is where you were about
to make your money?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It was just how I felt.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I mean actually, before we got on, no one was
ever on from Yonkers.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So Kiss and Chic and myself we really had to chip.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
On our shoulders one from being from You know that
the five boroughs always get mentioned, But besides the Five Boroughs,
God Blessed the Dead Heavy d was from Mount Vernon,
which is the next town over from you. Because uh
Brand Nubian's was from New Rochelle. That's a few more
talents over, but it was like and Yer is directly
connected to the Bronx. So skipping over always pretty much
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gave us that that chip on our shoulder.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I pretty much always felt like I was I was
gonna make it, and we were gonna make it. And
just the professionalism of my two partners, even at a
very young age, getting with them even made the confidence higher.
So uh, I was always manifesting it. As a child
from watching Beach Street, I knew I wanted to be
in hip hop. Really Yeah that that, like I knew
(11:38):
it was delight for me at a very very young age,
So UH worked hard at it.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Bach Street Man, Can we find that on Netflix?
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Now?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Everyone who's listening, you gotta go check out b Street.
I love that. That was inspiration for you. Remember I
speaking of God blessed that at the Fat Boys?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Didn't they have?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
What did they have?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
What was?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Then?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
They have a movie?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Crush groving, crush grooving.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
All of what happened to those movies? Do we don't
make those no more? Those movies? We don't make those
movies no more.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
They don't make them no more at all.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That was our version of a musical.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, very much, up, very much Up. I totally agree
with you want to.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So then you you c b street, crush, groove all
of these things, and you know this is what we're
about to do. Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody mentioning yonkers, everyone
fulling with heavyd because he's from the next he's from
the next town over. And you get into this space
where I'm fast forwarding you guys make it. Yea, you
are known, you got bread, you got money, you got ladies,
(12:39):
all the things. This is when you are not living
this healthy lifestyle though. Correct, you're not talking about sea moss.
You not up here like we should all. I'm gluten free.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
At that time.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
If you would have told me I would be doing
this in the future, I may have laughed at you.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I would have thought I would be the last guy
picked to do this, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But through living that life, in that lifestyle, when you're
fortunate enough to see how fortunate you are, and you
you know, we're Yanker's boy, so we're always around with
like blue collar hip hop, so people are familiar with
being able to see us.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I trust we're very connected with the streets.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That that same connection with the streets made me understand
kind of.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
What the streets leader. So it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It was a necessary transition, and I would say I
was actually being groomed for it subconsciously without knowing. Like
I stopped eating pork at twelve on my own, I
stopped eating red meat my first year on Bad Boy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I just didn't like how, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I remember being on tour actually and driving through somewhere
in the Midwest, and it was land like for at
least a couple of miles land far back as you know,
I could see a long stretch of land, and I
just felt weird that, looking how the cows were placed
and herded and things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I stopped eating chicken two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So I kind of always been on the journey subconsciously
without knowing.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I think you know a lot of us, especially for
males when they hit me.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, black folks and black young males when they hit
the street, Like I am forty eight. So I told
you I was raised on an apple day. Keeps the
doctor away. Make sure you eat the veggies off your plate.
But as you get older on your outside and you're
hustling and you're moving back and forth, that's when you
start making the wrong choices. That's when you're at the
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fast food spot all the time you're traveling, you're always
on the move.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So you get used to eating fast food and out.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
But I'm also from New York, so I was used
to the to the juice bars that the rosters had
and roster food here and there. So just as getting
older and making it, making the transitions and seeing what
was needed, I just started always started leaning towards the
healthier lifestyle. And for my debut album, Gainst and a Gentleman,
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I was actually incarcerated. So from being incarcerated start making
me think, uh, I'm a little too smart, and why
do I get triggered so easily?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Why am I so angry?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And I figured I for myself that I had some
sort of chemical imbalance. So I started watching what I
was doing. And then when you get in a lot
of trouble, you have to learn how to change people,
places and things. So I started making actually my partner,
Nodu and Juices for Life, he had a juice bar
before then, and I would just frequent the juice bar
(15:51):
just to keep myself somewhere that was healthy and get
to be around a few individuals that thought out the
box different from me. Wasn't that many customers at the
time when he had a different it was called Fruits
of Life. But I told him, you know, I made
that my hangout spot. So people wanted to start coming
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to see me. They would have to come there, and
it kind of grew. And then he always asked me
to be in business with him, but I was like, nah,
just you know, learning the lifestyle, promoting it.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Then years later he left that juice bar.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
He was chilling for a while and then called me
up one day like, now you got to be my partner,
and he was off to the races, him and my
other partner, Juice Lee, and myself.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
So you said you're a part of blue collar hip hop.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm really fascinated because what is blue collar hip hop
to you? Because that speaks to your entire lifestyle and
how you've been able to transition. But I wonder what
blue collar lifestyle blue collar rap is for you give
me some groups.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Who would that be and are there anymore today?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I say, I say were the epitome of it would
be someone that that uh uh uh, that's in touch
with the people, that that that work hard, that are accessible,
that love the craft that put the hours in.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Uh. I would say care rast is definitely blue collar
hip hop. Public enemies blue collar hip hop. Those who
came before me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
It's definitely, you know, those who love the craft and
the culture and work hard for it and were accessible
to the people is what I consider blue collar hip hop.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
I think with the Locks, with with our group, we
were able to take it a little further because we
throughout the fame, throughout the shiny stuff, throughout being on
uh some of the hottest record labels in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We will always in touch with the people. People will
always be able to find us.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
It definitely started out of you know, being hardcore and
like with a group that doesn't need security. But but
but throughout that we were able to you know, we
always take pictures, we always hug our fans, we always
sign autographs. We've always been you know, for the people,
with the people like So that's blue collar hip hop
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for me.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Do you see that today?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Is there any artists today that you would be like, Oh,
I feel like that particular artist that rapper feels blue
collar to me.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I know the game has changed.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Now, it's so much.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
I wouldn't say I would say these you know, these
especially the new generation, and they're supposed to I'm glad
the new generation makes so much money, but I feel
this generation makes so much money and doe to technology.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
They don't really have to be. Technology kind of runs
everything Instagram.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Twitter, Uh, you know, you could do interviews over phones now.
So it depends how you feel about where you came
from and how in touch you are with it. So
you know, a lot of us are taught when you
make money, get away from where you're from.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So a lot of them are being scared in that direction.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So but there's definitely a few of them who I
would say is I would I would consider you know,
J Cole sort of.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
He's definitely upper echelon, but he does things that keeps
him in tune with the people.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know what I mean I would call I would
say Griselda.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's definitely, you know, their upper echelon, but they still
stay in tune with the people, and they're you know,
they're accessible. So I think that's that's what how accessible
you are makes you blue color.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Well, not even that the fact that you say blue collar.
I think of.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Just now, how you've been able to transition and what
you're doing even Okay, well let's just take it back
to when we were all living our lives at home
and we were watching the verses. It still felt very
real and authentic, you know what I mean. I remember
watching and thinking this arguably, and I'm sure you've heard
this too before the verses between you and Dipset, that
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had to be the locks and the gypst had to
be the best versus there was, right, people have said that, yes, yes,
we've heard that, And so tell me about that experience
for you. What was it like preparing for it and
what was it like mentally going into it, because you
have transitioned in so many ways. Was it just just
averse behind you and you just reached back forward or
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felt authentic?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, it definitely was authentic because we was I felt
everyone that came before that people were you know, it
was more of a cool event, and us, being blue
collar hip hop, wanted to show people what goes behind
your craft, like knowing your work, being prepared. It was
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pretty much like a show for us, like we prepared
for our show as well, we prepare for the studio. Well,
like it's a lot that goes into hip hop that
people don't understand, like, we don't punch in the booth,
and that means when you heard it, I could do
I could lay a whole verse, get to the end
of it, mess it up.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm gonna do the whole thing over.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'm not going to have the guy punch me from
there because I want you to be able.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
To feel feel the energy.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
So when we have a show, same thing, I'm not
gonna We're not gonna have the words, We're gonna We're
gonna give you the words over the instrumental so you
could you could feel that energy. You could feel and
understand that we were being very organic and very authentic
at the moment. So with craftsmanship comes up a lot
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of hard work and just the small details that people
really don't seem pay attention to or give accolades to.
So for versus, we just wanted to make sure that
I definitely didn't know it was going to turn out.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Like that and be one of the biggest, crazy, biggest things.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But it was beautiful to hear young people coming up
on you know what, I'm gonna learn my rhymes, I'm
gonna start practicing my show, and.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I'm gonna start actually being an artist, I'm gonna do
it for real. Yeah, I get.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was that was pretty cool, But we didn't we
didn't intend that outcome. We just really intended to show
people what goes behind when you, you know, especially challenge
somebody when when when it's a challenge, Like what made
it real was understanding that the pandemic was over.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It was like the first event everyone was going to. Uh,
when I.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Started seeing how many people were weighing in on it
was when the reality started hitting, when it uh to
understand it was a Masterson Square Garden to head to
Angie Martinez.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
On a radio say this is for the championship of
New York. All of that kind of made it into
a you know, it made it big. It felt like
it felt like a.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Super Bowl. It felt like a real main event like
show up.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yes, it did so even as the days got closer
and I remember.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Going going to rehearsal early and seeing Michael Buffer and
then it really hit me. And then you know, with
with the NBA.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Players and the baseball players and football players, everybody chiming
in on who they think was gonna win and people
going for that kind of made it really like, all right,
this is it's gonna it's gonna feel like Fraser versus
a League mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
And by the way, you also, like you said that
next generation behind you, the artists these days hip up
artists these days, rappers these days didn't do what you
all did.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
You set a.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Standard and quite frankly introduced your reintroduced yourselves. What was
What did that feel like for you? Did it feel
like a second coming out, a chance for a career,
or did it feel like this is what we deserve.
I feel like everybody who starts the game, everyone is
standing on you. You'll shoulders. Everyone can stand on your shoulders.
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And it was a reintroduction.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I think it felt like just the reason why you
stay on a why you why you do your work.
It was more like, uh, you know, to be respected
by your peers and fans for years one. We've been
through multiple generations and were still around. And it was
more so like I guess, just showing that work and
showing that work ethic and then getting the accolades for that.
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It definitely was like a reintroducer because the world had odds.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
On us like we were.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I guess it solidified us in the legendary group slot.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
For people who didn't know about.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Us, so they've got to get the information on exactly
who the locks were what they did. But I like
to stay in a humble place with the craft and
to be honest for kids out there and work. You know,
you solidify yourself by just dedicating yourself to the work.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Moments can't make you.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's you know, it's the what you did all of
the moments to get to the moment that actually makes you.
So you know, you like to stay on a stay
on a humble plane. Grateful for the acolades that have
came after it. And but fortunately we've been able to
work with some of the greats, So you know, we've
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worked with pretty much all of the greats, and I'm
sure so it felt good to be to get the recognition,
but also we just like to keep ourselves on a
humble plane and you know, keep it pushing from there.
It also I was happy of things like the kids
wanted to do their work, and then people will.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Also we're like, oh we see you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Healthy lifestyle come in effect up there, like we see
that try to get tired.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I knew every word you have the energy, so.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
One hundred percent, one hundred percent. The performance for me
was it yeah, because they don't do that no more.
They do not do that anymore. Everyone runs out of breath.
You could just tell you, like, nobody in shape, but
what are you doing? I think that's I one hundred
percent agree with that. With that, With that, you guys
know what I'm going to say. You have to fast
forward through the commercials because I know there is a
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lot of commercials. We have to pay the bills. I
have to pay the bills. Mama have to stay cute
and pay her bills. We'll be right back in just
a few moments.
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Speaker 3 (26:35):
Cat Nick, you were Hey, everybody, I appreciate you for
supporting and listening. Uh and again I repeat this for
those who are just now joining the podcast. I know
that Styles have said some controversial things. More specifically, at
one point he denounced by Lives Matter. I know that
he also supported Donald Trump in a reelection, and I
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know that he clarified its thoughts on that and there
was a thought process behind that. But I do know
also two things can be true. He really is dedicated
to building up the black community. He wants to make
sure that black and brown people are spiritually healthy, mentally healthy,
physically healthy, which is why his transition from being a
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hip hop artist, which he still is, but his transition
from being a hip hop artist to a vegan and
a vegan lifestyle and promoting it is really fascinating to me.
I hope that you learned something today, and again I
implore you to separate the art from the artists.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
If you can take a listen.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Congratulations to you and your wife, and you're in the
businesses that you have. Can you go down all the
businesses I want to make sure I know you said
you have.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Far. We have Pharmacy for Life.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It's an e commerce but now we have a brick
and mortar located in Scarsdale, New York. We have Juices
for Life, which is now have six locations, three in
the Bronx, one in Brooklyn, one in Yonkers, and one
in White Planes.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
We just opened the White Plane.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
You have one with Angela. Did you do a business?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Basically that's the Brooklyn location.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Okay, so okay.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Pharmacy for Life, Juices for Life.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
My wife has written a book, The Ethereal Hype, just
how to discern the privilege of laws through the power
of Love. She's working on the second book. I stay busy,
I work a lot. I'm from from the Locks, of course,
I have a solo.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Are you a doctor like you?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Are you like one of those friends I come over
but you know my back hurt or shoulders messed up?
Are you the person I be like?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I've become that over the past few years for my friends.
One because I feel like we especially as brown.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
People, black people and all people like uh.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Often this lifestyle has been put in a box like
it's for Islanders, foreign black people, or rich white people,
and being healthier for everybody. You don't have to be
Although I am a tea hugger and a granola person,
you don't have to be a tree hugger, granola person.
You don't have to be in a certain box. You
could like designer clothes and love a healthy life. You
could like material items and love a healthy life. You
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could like hip hop and live a healthy lifestyle. So
I think people often have put a healthy lifestyle in
a box, like it's only for certain people, and we
work hard to say it's not for certain people, it's
for everybody. You only get one body treated as well
as you can do the best you can. We don't
tell you how to run around and be a vegan,
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run around and be a workout fanat day. But if
you drink on Friday night, you drink on Saturday night,
Sunday and Monday. Eat some plants, eat some fruits, eat
some veggies, dring some lemon water, cleanse out, balance it out.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Just we just preach balance and try to eat better.
Like even my friends. I have friends who still eat
chicken meat.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I just tell them, you know, make sure us know
anybodyotics in it, make sure it's homeon free. Uh, just
make better decisions because we'll we we like nice stuff
like we'll you don't mind spending on a like think
of our iPhones are expensive, Retro sneakers are expensive, new
really sneakers are expensive design and clothes are expensive. Jewelry
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is expensive, but people all often complain about the price
of what they're putting in their body.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If you could wash the outside of your body multiple
times a day, keep.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
It clean, wear the best clothes, take your take your
time to Nobody puts bullshit gas in they call bullshit
oil you want, you want by gas you want good
or people don't even feed their pets back. But when
it comes to ourselves, we tend to think it's okay
to take shortcuts or not eat proper. You know, healthy
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foods too expensive, so we just make sure we eradicate
and get rid of that kind of that that that
that thought pattern.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
You said that the food you realized what you were eating.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Meant you had a chemico chemical balance for sure, imbalance,
imbalance based on your short temper. When you started to
eat better, your temper started to be more even definite.
And what else did you notice outside of your skin?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
More more peaceful, more peaceful like that more peaceful and
able to understand that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh, to put it in a clay away. I own
the energy.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Like if you feed into negative energy, you get a
lot of negative energy. You feed into positive energy, you'll
get the more positive energy, so just more so manifesting
the energy. And nobody's perfect. Like not saying I don't
you know, har a negative energy at all now, that
would be an absolute lie. But to say I feel
like I'm one ady negative, one ad positive. I just
(31:58):
know how to operate on the positives. I could choose
to positive and stay on that side. And just being
in peace, just actually just being in peace as much
as possible, even though I'm not that all the time.
It's a constant journey to get where you where you're at.
(32:18):
When I probably really achieve it, I won't be on
earth anymore. I would think it'd be my time for sure.
Sure to somewhat different, but it's the journey of working
on it and striving to be the best one could
possibly be.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
You seem so peaceful, you seem so kind, very sweet,
these adjectives I'm using. Would that have been the case
ten years ago?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, but you would have gotten Yeah it was well
on the journey ten years ago, but not as I
would have been, not as much, like not as much.
And the journey, the journey brings you places like you know,
and uh, I've always been a gangster and a gentleman.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yes, why not talk?
Speaker 6 (33:11):
I think they both go together.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Both now just learned me and on the gentleman's side
a lot more.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I am an elegant hood lady, so I can relate
very much. So okay, so I love it.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Okay, so wait, talk to me about I just read
because you know, I'm reading all the articles. You have
a new project coming out or you're working on a
new project, and also I think the locker doing it
out there. Tell me what you're doing on.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
An album and I'm working on my last solo album
and actuality, Uh this will be my last solo album
that I want to take a break.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Is a solo artist?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Why?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I work a lot. As you see, I have pharmacy
for life, juices for life. Oh and I forgot.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
The Peanut Butter is a collaboration with eleven Madison Park,
which is the only plant based Michelin Star restaurant and
Chef World renowned chef and I, my wife and myself
we put together the PBJ to connect people who are
plant based from everywhere. So it is a high end
(34:14):
peanut butter, but it is.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It is great.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
So you're telling me I got to spend thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
On something we.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
But it's well worked because you're not that you find
too much peanut butters with maca and h seymours in it,
and that's what actually takes very excellent And if you
look up I was going to say Madison Park, you
would understand, you know why why it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
But we just wanted to make sure we hit you know,
we hit all sides of the world.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Like our juice bars are in food deserts, but like
our Pharmacy for Life is located in Scarsdale, one of
the wealthiest towns in America. The collabse with one of
the most high end restaurants there are. So there's no
such thing as a box when it comes to health.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We're hitting it. We plan on hitting it all.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And we want kids who's coming up under us to
understand you don't have to limit yourself.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
And you put them in food desert your juice bars
for what reasons.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Because kids from the hood they need to understand or
put fruits and veggies in their body in with you know.
With that being said, the better you feel, the better
you think, Like if you feel better about yourself, if
you feel healthier, it makes you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It makes you glow, not only on the outside but
on the inside.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So you really when you have a glow, and most
people are glowing with a certain sort of glow, it's
because they're really good inside. And I don't just mean healthy,
I just mean you know, they could people inside, So
that glow comes from inside out. So when you're eating better,
that also contributes to you being able to feel better.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
When you feel better, you treat people.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
When you treat people better and feel better, you just
happen to look better without even knowing it. And that
energy transfers when you transfer to someone else and are
able to be a help to someone else.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
In the world.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
How would you talk to you?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I'm talking to black man specifically, because I know
so many who just prefer to eat like two year olds.
They're like, no, meat and cheese and bread is good.
That's all I want, meat, cheese, bread, Like no, they
don't deviate from that. I think there is this perception
of eating healthy isn't manly isn't.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Especially we do deal with that a lot. Well, what
I straight up.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Now I'm learning to be more graceful, but I inform
them of how stupid that train of thought is because
I mean, think about it from you. You know how
it is in a hood in Cali. You know how
it is in the hood in New York. The number
one theme in all hoods worldwide, especially across America, it's survival, right,
(37:02):
Like everybody in the hoods theme is I want to survive,
And that comes first to mind. Now, if you want
to survive, it makes more sense to take care of yourself.
You survive longer. Don't wait to get the jail and
start working out, don't wait to get the jail and
start reading. Yeah, So we just put in people mind
that eating healthy is a part of survival, and survival
(37:24):
is always the main theme in the hoods. So and
we like to tell people start investigating what they're putting
in their body, like you can't think it's once you
start getting the information and understanding, like you know, you can't.
You can't keep going on with the stigma of that's
all you need. You definitely need fruits, you definitely need veggies.
(37:46):
If you don't get the right source of vitamins and minerals,
you need supplements, you need water, you know. So we
just we just fight the good fight, like we don't
we tell people because we care about them. So we're
giving you the information because we care. If we didn't care,
was no need for us to give the information. And
(38:08):
then we also inform people that if you take your
time to look it up and look some things up
and see what's going on, you understand that like a
lot of people, it's the simple things like for me.
For me, I remember years ago and I'm going, damn,
I name. You know, I'm in my thirties, But why
did I question it for years? If a juice is
(38:30):
eighty three percent juice, but the hell is the other
seventeen percent?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But I never thought about it?
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah you should, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So when you start thinking about the things you're not
thinking about, and you pointed to people like if you eat,
like even with me as a plant based person, I'm
not growing my food, so I can't say it's all
the way creating healthy. I'm pretty sure some farms sprayed something,
did something, or some someth's coming across where you know,
it's not all the way healthy.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Now out, but I felt much safer ian and unhealthy
batch of veggie's.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Then then an unhealthy paid chicken or cal and I
have no idea where it's from.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Like think about it, like where was last night's chicken?
Where was last night's chicken from? What state? What country?
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Was?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Was it a female? Was it sick?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
How did it feel? Did it get detached from his parents?
How was its emotions? These are things we don't think about,
but if you do think about it, it makes you
start changing your You know, I feel we're all programmed
to a certain extent, and it's about changing a program
because people go on, my grandmother did it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well, your grandmother didn't have as much an opportunity as
you did.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
And your grandmother was and she wasn't dealing with a
time where they was throwing a bunch of stuff in
the food anyway.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
So it's two different, two different things.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Every champion and carry champion is to be a champion,
a champion and carry champion and carry chat.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Be out a champion and carry chappion and carry chat.
It's entertainment. Can nack you work?
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Carry champion then carry champion is to be a champion,
a champion and carry chappie and the yat a champion,
they carry champion and.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Carry she entertainment.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
N you working as you're talking I'm all like, when
last somebody has some water today, you know what I mean?
Just things like that you think about you when you
and then there are moments when people I know this
because obviously living in California, there's too many vegan places
for you not to try it, and it seems like
regular food, right, hopefully you're eating healthy depending on where
you go, right. But the reality is is that everyone
(40:42):
I know who has decided to do that, to make
that lifestyle change, has had a moment where they've been
sitting across from somebody and I was just saying it,
starty boy getting a steak. Someone cut into a steak
and it's bleeding and you're like, want that inside of
my body? And like I'm like listening to you say it,
I'm all like, and then sometimes you just like it
out and be like, oh I do need this. I
do miss my protein.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
I want it.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Same with a chicken. Watching a chicken looking at the
actual legs and the wings pull apart, You're like, damn,
I moll to heat a chicken, you.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
So you have your ice like, you have these moments
and then you know it goes away. But I do
agree with you.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
It's only a matter of time. You talked about a lifestyle,
and I'm like, it has to happen. I don't know
what eventually, you know, for.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Me easing into it like you say, like I tell
people instead of just jumping into it, I always advise
people to pick a day out the week, like say Sunday.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Say Sunday, I'm not going to eat no meat.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I may eat like a vegan or plant based person
or whatever you want to call it, and do that
for four Sundays, and then next month maybe you could
add a day. Maybe it could be Sunday and Monday
for two weeks out of the thing, and then you
just gradually go on because even as a it, you know,
(41:59):
I don't mean to sound but in my mind, I
can't go back because I can't make a chicken or
a cow less valuable than my dog.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I just know, Like you don't.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
I'm saying, oh my god, don't.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Okay, Like if you was on a farm and raising
chickens and raising cows, I'm pretty sure you it.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
May have some sort of connection to them or you know, the.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Same way, because there are places in there are countries that.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeh, that's a delicacy. Maybe I heard that, Yeah, so
you're right, and I'd be like, I'd be so grossed
out by that. And they're like, this is a way
of life, this is what we eat. Okay, So I
need before I let you go, I need you to
tell me. I need you to tell me where people
can go to support all businesses. Is there one site
that you have so they can I know that. For instance,
(42:50):
my producers are like, let me try some of.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
You can go to.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So go to Pharmacy for Life dot com. I would say,
and uh with with juice, I tell everybody make sure
you get your own blended. Like if you go to pharmacy,
you'll go to our resource center. It'll tell you exactly
what our products do for you. So for those who
don't have a credit card, they can't buy our products online,
at least you could get the information to see what
(43:15):
they do for you. You cold to you could look
at Juice for Life, take a picture of our menu,
take a picture of anybody's menu, but get a juicer
at home.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Because the best way to lead is by example.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
So if you go out buying juices every day, your
significant other, your child, your parents, your parents, whatever, they
learn better by example by seeing you constantly do it
and put the work in, and then it becomes a
family event where you know, especially people with children.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I would say, have your children put the fruits and
veggies and the juicer. Make them part of it so
they can understand what it's about. So yeah, you can
check us.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
At Juices for Life on Instagram, Pharmacy for Life on
ig also, but the Pharmacy for Life dot com.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Can you doctor Savage for you go? Can you tell
me what I can do for can you tell me
what I can do to make no kid? I kidd it,
I kid. When I meet you again, I in person,
I'll make sure I'll ask for all the advice. I
appreciate you doing this, and I appreciate your patience, and
you have a great spirit.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
I'm thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I appreciate its beautiful show.
Speaker 6 (44:32):
Thank you, You're so sweet. I appreciate you. Have a
wonderful day. Take care of your family. Take care. Hey everybody,
that is it. We're about to go. I have to
go and figure out a few things. Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I was on vacation this week, so it was really
hard for me to sit down and do my podcast.
I was in Miami. I went to Formula one. The
race was nice, but Miami makes you feel like you're
rich and you could just hang out at the beach
all day and do nothing.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
That is not the case.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
By the time you hear this podcast on Monday, I'll
be back on the grind at work, doing the things
that I normally do, which is pay the bills and
complain a little bit. But I had a wonderful, wonderful time.
I think I'm going to be a F one fan.
I do like what they do, although, although I add this,
I don't like the fact that the cards driving circles
for fifty to sixty laps. I might have to do
(45:18):
a minif one. That means I don't have to pay
attention to all of the laps. Secondly, by the time
you hear this podcast, my Lakers have wrapped up the
series and they are on their way to the Western
Conference Finals.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Praise the Lord. Hopefully I do. On jinx it.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
If you're not a lebron fan, you hate greatness. I
will talk to you guys next week.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
Love y'all,
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