June 26, 2025 • 61 mins
Power Outages. Natural Disasters. Political Collapse. Here’s How We Stay Ready.
This week hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Rye, and Andrew Gillum address the most vital topic of all: survival.
The Iran-Israel conflict has a lot of us thinking about nuclear war–although it doesn’t necessarily take a war for society to collapse. Sharon Ross, AKA Ms. Afrovivalist, is a survivalist, a huntress, and a “prepper.” The logic of preparing for societal collapse feels more, well, logical than ever before. Sharon tells us why she moved into the wilderness and shares some basic survival tips for us normies. Check her out at https://www.afrovivalist.com/ or on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/Afrovivalists
The victory of Zohran Mamdani, a self-described “democratic socialist,” in NYC’s primary for Mayor may herald a new era for the Democrats. He won by a surprisingly large margin, winning over many Black voters who had previously supported his opponent, Cuomo. As the Democrats search for a way forward after a devastating defeat in 2024, will Mamdani’s victory pull them toward a more populist, socialist platform?
And of course we’ll hear from you! If you’d like to submit a question, check out our tutorial video: http://www.instagram.com/reel/C5j_oBXLIg0/ and send to @nativelandpod.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome home.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is episode eighty five of Native Lampod, where we
give you our breakdown on all things politics and culture.
Where your hosts, unless say, changed from last week, Tiffany Cross.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Angela Rode, and I'm Andrew Gillan. What's up, y'all?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Ag Andrew, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Great question.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I will yield to you first what you want to
what you want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I am a little nervous about what's happening in Iran,
but not so much about what's happening there. I'm really
curious about how it impacts us. So, like, what happens
if you know, a nuke hits the United States, or
or what happens if it's just the fall of society
and government is not functioning. How will we survive? And
(00:58):
I'm interested in that because Angela, I'm at the state
of the people who are had a whole simulation around
what would happen, and I haven't been able to stop
thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Interesting, Angela, what's up?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
I want to make sure that I give you all
the video that we can drop on this show, by
the way, from that simulation. But I also I want
to talk about survival skills. I know we have a
guest joining us to talk about just that, and it
feels very urgent to me that we're a little unprepared.
I don't know if it's my homeland security background or what,
but you go to Ready dot gov right now and
(01:31):
they've even taken down a national Infrastructure security report that
we would normally go to to rely on for what
happens if the electric group is attacked.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, then I watch all to survive.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Finally, y'all, I think I love for us to just
get a little conversation going about what happened this week
in New York's very important race for mayor. So let's
get into it. Well, y'all heard what we're talking about today.
But before we get going, we want to remind you
that if you like this show and you want to
(02:02):
show us some support, the easiest way is to give
us a rating, leave a comment, text an episode to
a friend, or just tell somebody about Native Lampod. Thank you,
thank you. In advance, we're counting on you to help
us repad the word.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Andrew, speaking of spreading the word, we actually one of
our regular viewers who sends in questions all the time.
I just want to remind the viewers please send in
a video of yourselves with questions comments. If we say
something you agree with disagree with, you know this is
a conversation with you. We are not three people talking
(02:38):
at you. So we so appreciate when y'all send in videos.
And this brother has sent in a lot, so let's
hear from him.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Hated of Lamb folks is Ernest Champelle. Once again, I'm
inside today, so it's not gonna be loud and noisy
like you guys clown me on before. But anyway, just
want to make a comment about why it's important that
black people are concerned about Iran, Israel and now the
United States war.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You remember.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
World War two. That war was fought in Europe, but
when the United States got pulled into it, hundreds of
thousands of black gis and clean. Both my grandfathers and
a great uncle, and I'm sure you guys have relatives
who were in the war got drawn into it, they
got drafted into it. They had to go fight. It's
(03:28):
fast forward to the Vietnam War and the Korean War.
Black people had to go fight. Let's fast forward again
and the Iraq War, and once again, young brothers had
to go fight. And I remember living in Washington, d C.
Near the old Walter Reed and I would see soldiers
coming back who lost their legs, and these young men
(03:50):
were mad and angry, and so a lot of people like, well,
you know, I got to deal with issues in here
in America, but you got to understand everything's related, especially
when it comes to economics. So get ready for gas
prices to go up, because the Iranians are gonna cut
off the Spicott and whatever oil's passing through that straight
up horror moves is gonna get stuck because you've got
(04:11):
all this fighting.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Ernest, well, thank you for that, and we thank you
for being inside. We clowned you with with love, my
brother the.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Same way in the middle of our intro.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
We we uh yes, and we we are so grateful
that you take the time, want to listen to us
every week, but also to drop a video and uh
offer your questions and commentary. And that's such a good
point that he made, because should Congress and the President
reinstate the military draft, our boys would would be at
(04:48):
risk first, and so you know could at bone spurs
as we know did not. He was a dodge or
draft dodger. Uh and Donald Trump, but he is all
too willing to put us in a position to have
our boys go and fight an award that they did
not start. So thank you, thank you for that perspective.
This is why we like having conversation with our viewers
(05:10):
and we love hearing your points. Andrew. I'm concerned because
the last time we were all together, the United States
had not bombed Iran the Foord, Oh site. Now we
understand that we have not even really disrupted their nuclear process.
So at this point I am thinking about That's why
(05:32):
at the State of the People tour in Baltimore, one
of my favorite parts, we were just walking through a
group of us me Joy read the Mario Solomon Simmons.
We were just walking through and Michael Harriet and his
wife Karen and Angela said, do you guys even know
what you're walking through? We were like, no, what is this?
It was like just shells with empty food, and it
was an entire simulation of what happens should society fall,
(05:58):
and Iran is not the only way that society can
fall if a nuke gets If we get hit by
a nuke, the coastal cities are done. All of us
live in coastal cities, and so you might have a
situation where it's just Middle America that's left. There's no
functioning government. What does that look like? So I'm a
little nervous about it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I want to hear from Andrew, but Angela, I want
to hear from you because you were talking about in
our pre production call some five point plan or five
action plan or something. So I'm just curious what y'all
think about all of that, and how nervous y'all are.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Andrew, are you going?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I thought you okay, whomever you go.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Okay, Andrew sink is Lencoln, so I would just say yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
So I was just like, you know, just in case
in case of christ.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I got the issues out of order I was taking,
So you go, okay.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
No worries.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
So what we did in Baltimore was create like what
is commonly been known as tabletop exercises or I was
calling it a five points activation. And the reason we
did this is to ensure that our folks could get
ready again. We spend a lot of time telling people
all of the things that can happen, and you know,
(07:12):
all of the crises that we are just write one
step away from experiencing, but not a lot of time
on how we prepare for them.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
So all of this is inevitable.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
It seems to me that our most reasonable service is
getting people, at least prime to think about how they
would respond. So our first activation point was a store,
a convenience store where there was nothing left on the
shelves and they were in the middle of a food
and water supply shortage. How do you respond if there's
no food on the shelves, and even in the convenience store,
(07:45):
y'all know that, Like if you can't find nothing else,
that's seven eleven my head. At toilet paper, you're looking
for people experienced that during the pandemic. So if you
go there and there's nothing, now, what do you do
you know? Do you know about the black vendor that
sells toilet paper? Can you order a in bulk? Do
you know about the folks down the street that have
a natural spring and you can get bottled spring water.
(08:06):
Do you know about the local black farmers that produce
different types of crops and produce and you know all
of these things? Do you know about them? Are you
connected to them? The second point was whe where the
electric grid was attacked and power had been out for
thirty days, we had someone acting. Eugene was acting. Even
the battery operated candles, like people will be like, oh, well,
(08:27):
I'll be good because I have these candles. What happens
if you don't have to write batteries?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
You know? What are you going to eat?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Do you have the type of meals where you can
put mix it with hot water and you now have
meals for.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
A little while? Do you have enough bottled water?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Like?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
What are all those things?
Speaker 7 (08:40):
The third point was if the cell phone towers are
down completely and there's no internet either. We rely on
these things so that we can organize ourselves around this.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I can call my parents.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Don't worry if I can't drive because the power goes
out in my car it's stuck in the garage, I'll
call it uper.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Are you whose number do you read?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Do you even remember? Like I don't remember a lot
of people's numbers anymore. When we remember a week of
dial right, right.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
That's it? So whose numbers do you know by heart?
If you can't?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
If you have those phone numbers but the cell phone
towers are down, do you have a satellite phone?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Did you know about satellite phones?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Right?
Speaker 7 (09:17):
The next bunker or the next activation was a bunker.
If there's a white supremacist attack like the J sixers,
who are basically running the country at this point, attack
black folks just like they're doing or wearing random ice
where uniforms. You don't even know if these are actual
ice officers. What happens if the attack comes to your
front door or at least on your block. Are you prepared?
(09:39):
Do you know how to defend yourselves? Do you have
the tools necessary to defend yourselves? The final activation point,
which I thought was the most scary, and we're starting
to see it become more and more real every day,
is the ice holding facility and officers were grabbing people
off the line as they came through and zip tying
them and sitting them along the floor. We had a
surveillance that and what happens. There was a recording that said,
(10:03):
you're at an ice holding facility, you don't have any rights.
You don't have a call you can make. You can't
call your lawyer. Bathroom breaks are at nine am and
five pm, and we'll give you water when we have it.
There's no food right now. How do you respond in
an environment like that? How do you know to get
your folks out? Do you know where to find them?
Is there some what is the thing that we put
together to ensure that from dread Scott the deportation?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
As LDF said right, that we actually.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Have some type of protection of our citizenship ship which
is hanging in the balance right now.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, so those are the part points. That's amazing. I'm
scared again, but that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Well, the idea is not to scary the ideas to
force us in the conversations where we think about how
we solve for them.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
They are scary. Tip, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
But for me, the one thing that gave me solace
besides the ice one which is really scary and I
don't have a saft for it.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
We do have.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Answers for most of those. They're expensive too, you know,
like can we have it? Can we all pull together
by a generator if if you know, if the electric
grid goes out can we do that?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
So anyway, well, Andrew doesn't have a sink right now,
so what I'm curious.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Gyard?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And you know I don't have buterations though, because you
have three children, you have a wife, and to be
honest with you, look forgive me feminists if this sounds sexist,
but truly, if there is a man around, we all
look into you like you got to figure out. I'm
gonna take care of myself. But I wouldn't be if
I was at your house, Andrew, I would be looking
(11:35):
at you. You have to figure out how to get
us out of here safely, and then your whole family
is gonna be looking to you in that moment, Daddy
and husband, what's your plan for us to get out
of here safely?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And as we know, we've all got lots of friends
single and otherwise that you know you had a household,
you got to care for the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I was just trying to explain to my.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Kids how uh they have to set the example when
their friends come over for how to treat our home,
because if you don't know how to take care of
your home and set the expectation that if you drop
a thing that's food on the floor, you should pick
it up immediately because we don't want that squished into
the wood floor of our home, you know, to take
(12:20):
some pride in that, but to take that to its
logical extension, we do have to be prepared.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What I was thinking about when I.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Was listening to some of the scenario playing is that
it doesn't require a war for us to get to
the point where we have to rely on these things.
I mean, I live in Florida.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
We deal with hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean it feels like, you know, year round, and
in some ways it's many years round because you know,
in some instances you're three four years later still trying
to recover from a storm that that affected your home
back then. And yes, crises also show up. But I
think this is important and this is why our guests
who will be bringing on a few I think is
(12:55):
going to be relevant for our audience, and that is
you just never know. And in the context of war,
when we are seeing nations and nation states move away
from you know, wars showing up in the form of
military troops, you know, landing and disembarking and walking down streets,
that's gonna be our home front issue visa ve look
(13:18):
at what we see happening under this president in California
and elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But when you deal with players that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Are not as let's say vast as the United States
with regard to as military capacity, there are many of
them are going to the systems that disrupt the things
that we rely on every single day. So what happens
if through the push of a button over the internet
from anywhere, someone can shut your grid down, someone can
(13:47):
contaminate your water system where you live, someone can decide
that they're going to play with the lights at this
intersection and that intersection and turn out the whole city.
What it is that we do to to to survive that?
Because when it gets real real, y'all, and this is
really what the power of that kind of warfare suggests,
(14:10):
is that their intention is to turn people against people.
So you take away people's food for long enough, we
become pretty much a pariah, and they are going to
survive for ourselves and for our families. And when it
gets even more scarce, even deadlier, and more harmful, decisions
start to get made. Because what do we all know
(14:32):
to be the truth at the base of all humanity,
and that is that a man wants to survive, the
body is built to do such a thing, and you'll
you'll do whatever is required in order to survive. So
looking forward to looking forward to that, that that conversation.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
All right, it's time to pay some bills. Don't go anywhere, guys,
We'll be right back on the other side of his break. Well,
I just I want to say quickly because I want
to talk about the mayoral race really quickly. But I
(15:10):
just want to say, during the Holocaust, like you had
older people snatching food from babies because it was this
primitive survival instincts that kicked in that you needed to eat.
I am down here in one of those black towns
I told you all about, at the home of Michael Harriet.
And when I tell you, guys like his whole setup,
like they are growing. They're on to Angela's everything. Angela
(15:32):
was saying, I was thinking, I feel so safe right now.
If something happened right now, we do have all the
things Angela talked about there. It sits on twenty two
acres of land. There are multiple gardens, so we could survive,
sustain ourselves. Here, I'm saying, we like I live with
Michael inn. But we have literally I'm hiding things here
(15:53):
so I don't have to pack them every time I come,
but they get there. And that's another thing. If you
have to flee your area and airports are down, everybody's
going to be on the train tracks, everybody's going to
be on the highway. Are you the kind of person
that builds community, community or you the kind of person
that fights for your own individual survival? I think I'm
the kind of person. I know I'm the kind of
(16:14):
person who would build community. You're welcome to walk with us.
But being here, they are pretty much off the grid.
The house runs on well water. They're growing potatoes, carrots, onions, garlic, everything.
This house is well protected. I'll say that because I
don't know if Michael harry One means a lot of
his business, but it's well protected like we would all be.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
When we talk with our guests, that we can dig
into what are the advantages for those folks who aren't
living in more ruralized areas and still want to survive,
but they don't have the land to grow their own.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
They need blocks from the White House. Andrews, right, I
know you know very well. I don't know if I
feel safer there or do I say, like more of
a target, you know? And I can't because in DC,
you all know you will see snipers on the roof.
That's not that's normal, you know, because like, oh, a
dignitary is probably coming down this street today, and you
know clearly that's the secret service, you know, Will Iranians
(17:15):
or not? I don't want to depend on Iranians. Will
any enemy say I'm going to try to take out
this white house and like Calisi, who cares who's in
the surrounding area? Or will it be a bunch of
sleeper cells awakened and individuals committing random acts of violence
and trying to be prepared for both? And I live alone,
so you know, getting plans of action among our social groups.
(17:39):
If the network is down, it's like, okay, you got
an hour after something happens to walk to my house
and then we're going to flee gas stations if you
don't have gas for your car, like how well you dart?
The gas stations are going to be packed.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So anyway, yeah, questions, Yeah, we got all the questions.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think we hope we'll get to and so to get.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Y'all some answers as we as we bring our guests on.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But before we get there.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Mondani, in case you missed it, don't be embarrassed. There
was a race held this week in New York. The
pretty big deal for those in the city of New
York because it included, well hel a bunch of candidates,
one of which was the former governor of New York,
Andrew Cuomo, who had been leading the race the entire time.
(18:24):
And then as a result of the elections, when people
got out to be able to decide, they told us
what they wanted. Let's run this clip and see see
what people shows.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Republicans are slamming Mom Donnie as anti capitalism and anti
Semitic for criticizing Israel, which he denies.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He says he's focused on the cost of living.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
We have won because New Yorkers have stood up for
a city they can afford, a city where they can
do more than just struggle, one where those who toil
in the night can enjoy the fruits of their labor
in the day.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So, so we saw and and got to hear. The
news media on the introduction to Zoran's speech, wanted to
type the typecast this race as sort of being about, uh, frankly,
the big national issues, and it sounds to me, based
(19:24):
off of the little and very limited following that I
was able to do from you know, just you know,
down here in Florida, it sounded to me like this
brother really leaned into the everyday issues that appear to
be showing up for people. How do I, you know,
get groceries and under Trump's economy, uh, and still be
able to enjoy the quality of life that I thought
(19:45):
I was going to enjoy, you know, living here. They're
talking about housing, They're talking about rent rates, and how
it is that corporate New York has really taken over
so much of the real estate and made it quite
unaffordable for regular everyday people, uh to to to to
live in the city. I just wanted to quickly share
with y'all that some of the uh, the the surprise
(20:09):
and the outcome of this race was was really born
about because the money advantage was so significant obviously for
uh the former governor. The former governor also in the
lead up to the election, over Mandani enjoy significant Black
support throughout the city. He began to close the spread
(20:31):
of support amnks black voters throughout New York and the
lead up to the election, collapsing that quite a bit
and obviously running away with it. I'm curious to know
from from the two of you real quick is whether
or not you think this has greater implications for the
City of New York or is there a message here
for Democrats as they figure out how it is they
(20:52):
run and win elections again.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yes, there is a message here. So I have to say,
because I understand if you don't live in New York,
you might be thinking, well, why do I care about
the New York City mayoral race? But it's so important
because to me, it shows that you can still inspire people.
He ran on a very progressive platform. He was a
state assemblyman, lived an immigrant, lived in Queens, born in Uganda.
(21:14):
He was a part of this like rap group. So
there are all these videos of him with like all
this flavor, you know, rapping with in this rap group.
He's she a Muslim married to a Syrian woman, and
it's such an important story in transparency. Uh, we have
a friend in the race, well, somebody we know who
(21:35):
I would call a friend in the race anyway, Angela, y'all,
if you're listening, Angela's making a face anyway, Okay, okay,
I have a friend in the race, and I really
value people who have conviction in their beliefs, and Mondani
(21:59):
had conviction in his beliefs when they asked that he
is not running for leadership in Israel, he is running
for leadership in New York City. And the way the media,
the political elite, the donor class all tried to crush
this man's campaign because he did not have some undying
loyalty to Israel. He defends Israel's right to exist, just
(22:20):
as he does with the Palestinian people. And so the
friend that I have in the race hedged a little
bit and completely reverse something he was highly critical of Israel.
And then because all this pressure around him, he walked
back his words and it's like, oh, well, I didn't
mean that when I said it, and it was disappointing
to see. So I was out loud and proud and
happy to support Mundani in this race. And to me,
(22:43):
why it matters if you don't live in New York.
It just shows you can be who you are authentically,
and if you jump out there and take a chance
and run for office, support somebody who's running for office
takes some sort of action, there can be victory. All
you people who ask about third parties, well, third party parties,
you're very seduced by the president. Can we elect the
president who's a third party? Mandannie happens to be a Democrat,
(23:06):
but a third party person could have run on that
same platform and won this race. It wasn't about the party.
It was about what he was saying, making public transportation,
free freezing rent, and those things resonated with the people
of New York. So I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's going to be more to
watch here, everybody. So if you're listening, know that these
were the primary races that were held this past week,
and that there is still a possibility that candidate Cuomo,
former governor of New York, may file to run in
this race and go to the general election by running
as an independent, and so lots to watch.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Cuomo. Don't do that. And if New York you have
a chance to send a message to the America right
now by doing something progressive. And I applaud you all
for electing Mandannie as your candidate that you're taking to battle,
but please do not put Andrew Cloma. He and Trump
share the same donors. It's like we always say white
(24:04):
supremacy is nonpartisan, not that he's a white supremacist, but
they share a lot of the same supporters. So AnyWho, Angela,
I know you live in Seattle and you're like, I
am not really into this mayoral race. But what I
think you are into is the message it sends.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yes, I will tell you.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
The one thing that I've been following on social especially
is the number of folks who have felt encouraged by this.
You know, it's really hard to come out of November
last year and not feel all the hopelessness and be like, well,
what do we have to do? Like there's no point.
And also it gives me I have some questions about
(24:44):
these election results still because I don't understand from I'm
talking about from November, not from the man winning yesterday
or sorry this week. I I want people to remember
that there's always something we can do, even when it
does feel hopeless.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
You might not be able to see it, but you know,
the Bible talks about.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Midnight, and a lot of us are raising the church
and we always hear that midnight is the darkest hour.
But you know, Don has to break at some point,
So congratulations to New York on the dawn breaking sooner
for y'all than the rest of us. But the Don
is breaking, it sounds.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Like, Okay, guys, on the other side of this break,
we're going to talk about survival of the fittest. And
I don't mean in the gym, I mean in the streets.
Don't go anywhere. We'll tell you what we're talking about
on the other side. All right, time for our guests,
(25:41):
and I'm so so excited. We all are so excited
to welcome Sharon Ross, better known as an Afro Vivalist,
and yes, we're going to get into all of what
that means. Sharon Ross, thank you so much for joining us.
You would do a much better job saying what you
do and what is an AFRO. Before you joined the show,
we were all talking about how we're concerned about surviving
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when all of the structural parts of society have collapsed.
What does that look like? And you walk it like
you're talking because you don't just teach about that life,
you're living that life. So walk us through who you
are and what is an afro biblist.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Everybody, I'm AFRO biblist. I am a African American survivalist.
Put that together and it's Afro biblist. So I came
up with that because I am a I am my
father's son. Growing up, he was a marine and my
little sister was too prissy to hang out with him,
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and I was the tomboy. So that's why I say
I'm my father's son. And he is the one who
started me on my journey to learning how to hunt,
learning how to protect myself. I grew up in a
all white community with which is where I ended up today,
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and I had to learn how to survive in an
all white community in the early seventies. So I grew
up hunting with him and fishing and learning how to
harvest animals and all of that. And after I graduated
from high school, I moved on to Houston and then
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came back here because that was a culture shock in
Houston for me. It was too many, too many people
and not enough woods for me, so I had to
come back, and long story short, in my thirties, I
decided that well, it was around Katrina that the aha
moment came upon me and said, I do not want
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to be like them. Suffering. I want to prepare and
get ready for whatever it is to come my way.
And so that's where my journey started, on preparing and
being a prepper and getting back out in the woods
and hunting and doing my journey. People thought I was crazy.
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I've lost many, many friends because of it. But granted
they're slowly coming back because they're realizing I'm not that
crazy lady anymore, all right. And and so I started,
you know, teaching a little bit to other people about it.
It was it was hard to get other people, you know,
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ten years ago, sorry about my dog, ten.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Years ago, love it welcome, ten years ago, to.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Try to get people to understand that, hey, something may
happen to us here in the Pacific Northwest, especially you know,
the big earthquake that the Pacific Northwest is supposed to have.
I mean, we're twelve years behind, so they're saying we're
supposed to have a big one. Even with people knowing
that I was still the crazy cu Cooh conspiracy theorists
(29:00):
all of that, and so slowly people started asking me
to join them and get presentations and classes and whatnot.
And uh, when it came to COVID, people were going
crazy in my office on Oh my god, I need
to go get supplies. And I was telling people then
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before it got to the States, because I I don't
watch local news. I watch international news, and international news
was telling us the truth. So I was telling people,
y'all really need to uh take this COVID thing that's
going over in China seriously because it's going to come
to us. And they're like, yeah, whatever, you're you're stupid,
(29:44):
you're crazy, you know what. Whatever, And uh so I
started ordering my my respiratory mask and and everything that
I was needing, and they already knew that I was prepping.
So I was. I had my food, I had water,
I was good to go. I was good to go.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Well, you were smart to do that. I'm so so
sorry didn't just because we're tight on time, but you
were so smart to do that. But I definitely want
Angela to be able to jump in and ask you
a question because she just did this great simulation and
we want our to equip our audience with some specifics
of what they need. So Angela, I'm tossing it to you.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Thank you so much, Tip and Sharon for joining us today.
You had my ears perk up when you said Pacific Northwest.
I'm born and raised in Seattle, and I moved back
home last summer full time. I've been split in time
between here and LA and before that between l A
and d C. But I wanted to first say that
I hope I can put you in my emergency front.
(30:43):
We are going to do five people that we need
to be in connect connected to in this this arm
again and were about to go into. So hopefully I
can put you on my list. I'm gonna save and
remember your ten digit phone number. But I also want
to say that I think it's really important.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Yes, let me just say to be in my group,
you need a year's worth of supplies. If you plan
on coming, if you get the invitation to join me
on my sixty five acres, you have to have a
year's supply for every person in your family or you're not.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Getting this is This is excellent, Sharon, this is perfect.
So can you talk us through one. How have you
prepared yourself to survive? I hear you saying sixty five
acres when you say a year's worth of supplies, walk
us through this like we slow and low kids, we
don't know, So talk to us about how we prepare
and we get sharing afro vibilists ready. We want to
(31:37):
get it ready, we want to get it right. So
tell us what I'm taking notes, What are the supplies
we need for a year?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Or is that where you would start?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Where you start is in your kitchen. Look through your
cabinets and find any and all shelf life stable foods
meaning rice, beans, canned foods, dried foods, which is the
high or freeze drive foods. Pull all of that out,
put it in a tote and put it aside. And
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that's where you're gonna start with your pantry supplies. And
then after that, you want to start going to your
food pantries. If you look up I think if you
google food pantries near me, it'll pop up every food
pantry in the United States and you can literally find
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what's in your area. I would guarantee, I would suggest
that you go to every pantry that you can that
will allow you to get food. The fastest way to
build up your pantry supplies is going to a food pantry.
Save your money for now, because you're gonna need a generator,
You're gonna need water purification systems. And if this war
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pops off, you're gonna need a full face mask with
the respiratory uh filters. There's a lot. So I always
tell people to try to save your money and utilize
the food pantries first. Now people look at me and
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say like, oh, but I'm I work full time. You know,
I'm taking for other from other people. But keep in
mind that from me. I used to work volunteer at pantries.
We threw away a lot of people, a lot of
food because people have the nerve to be picky. You're
getting free food and they have the nerve to be
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and so at the end of the day we would
have to throw that food out. So I still recommend.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
You reference sharing a generator and a water purification system.
A lot of folks talk about not getting generators because
they're cost prohibitive. Can you talk to us about reasonably
priced generators, reasonably priced systems?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
No, we're here, Can you hear us?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I can hear you.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
Yes, Okay, So I was saying in your remarks you
mentioned getting a generator in a water purification system.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Can you talk to us.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
About reasonably priced water and water purification systems and generators?
And if that is, what is required for your years
long supply to go on your sixty five acres.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
So I'm gonna kind of eliminate my sixty five acres
from it because I'm fully now and you guys are
just starting. You can't start where I'm at. So I
would say, use your water catchments. Also, use your roofing.
If you're living on a house, use the water from
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your gutter and to have that drain into a fifty
five gallon water barrel. And because you can use that
water later on to purify it, to drink, to you
bathe in and whatnot. And then the best, I like,
the best water purification system would be Soyer, which is
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s A W y e R. They have a household
system that you can use set up to your system
and it's a drip system that goes into a container
that you would need to use a generator. If you're
living in a house and the electricity goes down, you're
gonna need one of those. And right now generators are
(35:31):
a hot item because people who are going through these
natural disasters are buying generators. I mean I have five.
I mean people are like, yeah, you're doing too much,
but you know what, I have a backup, my backup,
to my backup, to my backup. I mean when I
find them on sale, I buy them. So there you
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got your water purification system, you got your generator. And
another thing I would also recommend is a solar generator.
So you go out and buy I use. Let me
show you I am now plugged into.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Jackery and and say more about jackeriye, say it again.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Can you explain that.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Is a solar generator. So you hook this to your
solar panels and it will charge and it will get
full up to one hundred percent. I don't know if
you can see that, but I have seventy four percent
on here.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
But when I play, it'll hold the electric power, it'll
hold it.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
And this is a little one. This is just from
my laptop my cell phone. But I have a bigger
one that's over there that's running, that's being charged right
now for the generator. And that's the one that I
use at night. So during the day I use this
fallen and then the larger one I use at night.
So during the day, when the generator is running, I'm
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running the big one to make sure that's one hundred percent.
Once it gets to one hundred percent, I disconnect it,
turn it off, and then when it gets to night time,
I turn it back on. And that's what I use
at night if I want to watch a movie or
something like that. But Jackery, I recommend this one I
found on sale for one ninety nine. The bigger ones
they can be in the thousands, but I recommend them
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because they will come with your solar panels and they
work great when.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I have That's good advice.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
When I have the Jackerie plugged into the solar panels.
Believe it or not, they charge faster on the solar
panels by the sun than they do from the generator. Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
So what I'm share in Yes, I have a quick
question as we were thinking about our listeners all across
the country you had alluded to in your earlier statements.
If this war pops off, there are all kinds of
scenarios that can lead people wherever they are in the country,
whether they're living lifestyles similar to yours or in more
(38:09):
urbanized areas, or they could be you know, in rural
south but collected to the grid system, and so everything
is pretty much provided when it comes to an urban service,
if you will. So, as we think about the kinds
of scenarios that might lead people sort of down this road.
I'd love to hear you articulate what maybe just some
of those might be. And then second, if we accept
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that to be the case and we want to then
make preparation, what would you recommend You mentioned you know,
you're clearly at a much more advanced level, But for
the rest of us that are out here who are
comfortably where we are and just don't want to put
at risk really life and health should emergencies, you know,
(38:54):
impact us, what kind of guidance would you offer around
getting started.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
So it gets started other than what I've already spoke
about is yes, Because so what I think is going
to happen is our enemies out there know that our
power grid sucks, they know it's bad, they know it's
one hundred years old, et cetera. So I don't think
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and I hope that they won't nuke us, if you
know what I mean about doing a ground attack. What
I think may happen is they'll set something off above
our atmosphere and that will take down our whole grid
once they do, or they will attack the substations. So
we've got fifty five thousand substations in the New United States.
(39:44):
All they have to do is take out nine nine
to take out the whole country. Okay, So that's why
it's important to get a solar system set up, get
your solar s up and ready to go, just in case,
because you know they can't put out the sun. Well
(40:05):
they might, but the sun's going to be there for us.
Then the electricity will be if an attack is taken
upon us here in the United States.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
There's also things like ham communicating via radio like Ham radio,
and but even just trying to find each other in
the immediate aftermath of something happening. I've bore witness of
this myself. I was at CNN at the time nine
to eleven happened, and you could not get in or
out of DC. It was complete gridlock. I was angel.
(40:37):
I believe you were still in DC when an earthquake
happened and you weren't there. This was like twenty ten,
twenty eleven. I thought you were still living there then,
But there was an earthquake that happened in DC that
reached d C and you another time where you couldn't
really get in or out. My question is about weaponry
because as black people, we are in a unique position where, yes,
(40:59):
we can fear and Iranian regime wanting to defend their
land by striking us here domestically. However, we also have
homegrown terrorism that is now operating out of the White House,
that has emboldened white nationalists, that actually employs white nationalists
within the administration. And so in terms of defending ourselves,
(41:23):
I'm curious your thoughts on can you hear me, miss Ross?
Are you still there?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Okay, So in terms of defending ourselves, you know, I'm
learning how to shoot a shotgun, but what kind of
weaponry should we be thinking about, if any? Obviously in
states where it's legal and going through a legal process, right.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
So I was just gonna say, if any, find first
find out if what you can carry, Go out and
get your license to carry. Number one, be legal about it.
Number two, go out and find I would suggest to
go to a range and just sample different firearms and
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see what you're comfortable with before you go out and purchase.
And then once you purchase, go join a class and
learn how to use that firearm properly. It's really important
because you know, you still got people out there who
think they can hold their guns like this, you know,
and that ain't the right way to hold a gun,
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you know, And you got to learn the importance of
that gun being on safety and why it should be
on safety at all times until you're able, until you're
wanting to use it. So take those steps first and
start researching what type of firearms you want, if anything,
you would want any something small enough to be on
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your person so you can be able to conceal it
when you're going into a crowd or you know, going
into the stores or whatnot, because a lot of people
still will they'll freak out when they, you know nowadays,
when they see someone walking through the store, you know,
with the gun on them. You know, you want to
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make sure that it's concealed, and it will just cause
your problems in the future if if you're exposing yourself
because you know, you got people out there, who are
you know, gonna be panicking or whatnot, thinking you're gonna
shoot up the store or whatever. So be careful with that.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
The dog agrees with you and.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Sharing I was gonna I was gonna ask. So you
talked about the pantry, we talked about property. We haven't
really talked as much about produce or the other things
that we need to ensure that we're okay. So I
don't know if folks if there's a way that folks
can tap in with you and learn, like what is
that down that list you know of things that people
(43:54):
need to survive for a year, whether they're on your
property or not. What does that look like? Give in
the crisis that is looming, we want to ensure that
our audience, our listening audience, and their family.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Members are okay.
Speaker 7 (44:06):
I've learned a lot about satellite phones recently and the
importance of AVA ass to that tip just talked about radio.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
What are the other things that we.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
Really need to be leaning into in these treacherous times.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
You want to make sure that you have all of
your medications prescriptions if you can get if you have
to take a medication on a regular basis, talk to
your doctor and see if you can get a minimum
of a three month supply. And start stalking up on meds,
even over the counter medications. When you're going to the
stores and you find you know, allergy medicines, diarrhea medicines
(44:44):
that are on sale byom and just start stocking up
on them, I stalked up on toothbrushes. So my routine
when I was in the city before I moved here
to my homestead, I would go to the dollar store,
grocery outlet and ace hardware. They were like on each corner.
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That's what I called my prepper corner. And I would
go into grocery outlet and tell myself, Okay, my limit
is a dollar ninety nine, and if I can buy
something for a dollar ninety nine, I can get as
many as I want. So I would find toothbrush packets
for dollar ninety nine, toothpaste, those dental floss things, you know,
(45:30):
anything for a dollar ninety nine and under, and I
would buy those. Anything, any canned foods that was a
dollar ninety nine, I'd buy any medications. And then sometimes
I'd go in and say, okay, today's my five dollar limit.
I can buy anything five dollars or less and find
them on sale. And that's another good way to stock
(45:52):
up there. You know you want to get a lot
of your personal hygiene items, start stocking up on that,
on your soaps, on your detergents. I make my own
laundry detergent, which consists of borax baking soda, a washing
(46:14):
powder soot soap, and then a scented what do you
call those? You know, the scented Yeah, the smell good.
If you get those, you combine all those two together
one tablespoon I'm sorry, one uh one fourth cup is
(46:37):
good enough for a whole load, so you don't need
to use a lot of it. Oh and I also
put oxyclean in that mixture too, so you don't need
a lot of it. And it lasts a long time.
I'm on a three gallon bucket that I made and
it's I'm still I've still got like a year left
(46:58):
of use from that. So things like that. Think about
your soaps because if you go out and buy those
big soaps, you know, the big block soaps you can take,
you can cut those down to like the Hotel fiaps.
So one of those big soaps can bring can get
you twelve of the Hotel five soaps, you know what
(47:20):
I mean? So think that way. Think always think, Okay,
if I'm going to buy this, how long is it
going to last me? And then can I stretch it?
How long? How long can I stretch it out? That
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, sharing your advice has been really really good for us,
and we know we've got to get you out of
here soon.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
But I wanted to just ask if.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
There are resources that you would recommend folks access from
wherever they live. If it's going to a website that
you find particularly helpful, or if there's an organization that
you've connected with that you might want to recommend that
folks go to to get more information. I love if
(48:04):
you could do that, and then I didn't hear the
answer to it, so I just want to ask it
one more time, and that is for radio communication. If
satellites were to go down, are we talking analog? What
do you recommend for being able to be connected via coms?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Satellites will evangel go down? I think Ham radios are good.
I do have my HAMD radio license, but there is
a radio etiquette to it. So you need to join
a class and learn what that etiquette is because it
is FCC license and it is against the law to
not follow their etiquette. And then if you don't want
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to use a HAM radio, find a radio that's got
a long range to it where and then give each
one of those to your team members and then start
practicing the use it, start creating your own code, so
you only you and your team will know what that
code means. Okay, satellite phones, that's an iffy iffy because
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they're really expensive and then they have an expensive monthly service.
So unless you are using that every single day to
get your money's worth out of it, satellite phones can
be kind of iffy iffy. There is an app on
your phones. I think it's called zel o z E
l l O and it's a walkie talkie system. So
(49:29):
go on your phone and get find the apps that
are off grid apps that you can communicate with two
other people and you can set your all your team
members up on that and you be able to utilize
your your utilize that app through your phone off grid
when the grid is down, so your phone may be
(49:50):
you may not be able to make a call, but
you'll be able to use that app as a radio
to call your members.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Excellent advice and I'm loving that you're you're recommending that
you get practice with this before an emergency hits. Yeah,
and then resources was the was it was the other
resources that you'd recommend.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Which which one to learn more about what it means
survive right now?
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Survived so of course.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
You know go to my website. Really, so my website
is it's it's a disaster because I had a web
designer doing it and now he's gone and I can't
get to my website. I can't update it, but it's
still information there to go to get current, go to
my Facebook page afro Bibleist Facebook page, and I do
(50:46):
have lists on there that has a full list of
what you need to survive, a full list. I even
asked chat GPT about it and it's on there and
Jack chat GPT has a good list and I shared
that list. So when you want to find anything current
when it comes to prepping or any kind of knowledge
(51:07):
that I'm putting out there, most likely I'm going to
put it on my Facebook page first because I'm still
trying to get access.
Speaker 7 (51:16):
To and I'm sharing one last thing. Oh sorry, no,
I didn't mean to go off. I was going to say,
we just did this process where we got experts, policy
experts from a variety of fields to contribute to our
black papers, policy initiative process through State of the People,
(51:37):
and we don't have one on survival skill. So I
would love if you would consider doing a black paper
on that to help expose our audience and our people,
our communities to what's needed to be able to survive.
Right now, your list, the other things that you feel
comfortable sharing, we would love to have you. I would
connect you to doctor David Johns, who's the editor in
chief of that process.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Okay, well, listeners, you all have heard it direct here
from the expert.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Herself and what it means to survive.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Well, as far as I'm concerned, you ain't said a
silly thing yet. All of it makes sense for survival
and we want to make sure that we are and
we and our listeners are equipped for whatever the condition
might be, you know, getting off the grid and living
you know, more independently might be some folks's aim and
others that just might be I don't know what might
(52:29):
come right and how do I make sure I protect
my family and myself. We thank you so much for
being so generous with your time, miss sharing, and want
to make sure that you leave any contact information with
us that we can share with the listeners that you
are willing to, so that folks have a way that
they can get directly to you. And of course, as
(52:51):
you mentioned before, following you on your Facebook page.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
So feel free so one thing before I give that
announcement is also go hit your second supply stores like
your Goodwills and whatnot, and start purchasing shoes for your
children that are one, two, three, four sizes too big.
Shoes and clothes. If you got infants, go buy them secondhand,
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get them washed, and put those aside, because when it
comes to that there's we're gonna be suffering in the
next six months to a year and beyond. So make
sure that you've got enough clothes. Go out and buy
your blankets. Go get the second hand blankets and then
wash them and then put them away. You can find
(53:38):
more information like I said, on me at afrobiblist dot com,
afroviolists on YouTube, which I don't do a lot, afro
biblists on Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Like I said, perfect, Thank you so much, Afrovibleist. We
learned a lot. Thank you so much for doing all right. Well,
I'm going to get all my supplies to make sure
we're good and on the other side of this break,
we're going to tell you what we need you guys
to do this week. Don't go anywhere, y'all.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
We have had a full show and still so much
to talk about, but want to make sure that we
get the chance to issue what our audiences and joys
hearing from each of us each weekend.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
That is, what are your tegaways?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Give me your CTA answer, Latiff, what do you want
us to do or know?
Speaker 7 (54:39):
Mine is to find five people in your city whose
phone numbers you could memorize and who you can stay
connected to in a time of crisis. I would definitely
encourage that that's mine for this week.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
That's a good one. Well, I want to thank everybody
from my last CTA. So many people have sent me
vegan recipes and v ideas. I don't know what I'm
gonna do in an apocalyptic America trying to be vegan,
so I want to stay with the survival theme though,
because we got so much good information from our guests,
I would say my CTA is learned. The earth is
(55:14):
so generous with what the earth offers us. So even
if you're in the city, learn gardening, like learn how
to grow your own food, grow tomatoes, grow an avocado,
this great protein, grow onions, like herbs, all of those things. Yeah,
I think that's a good idea because who knows what
(55:34):
tomorrow is going to bring so yeah, let's get back
to like being self sufficient just within ourselves.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
I love that mine is I guess I don't know,
maybe personal, but maybe I think hopefully applicable outside of individual,
and that is I would Last night I participated in
a call for a relative who is right now and surgery.
I won't say money details, but a watching my phone
for the updates that are coming and knowing that God's
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doing he he what he must do and we'll do
for successful surgery. But what it reminded me of as
we all were on the zoom talking last night, was
how the history and our community of really secretive or
being secretive around our health, keeping it very close to
the vest. That the time that you are learning about
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a relative being gravely ill is when a relative is
called and saying you need to call us and such
because you know they're on their last And I just
thought about how it has built a real trauma scar
for me when I get the update the call, because
now I associate somebody's health update with you know, you
know they're on their way out, and you know, my
(56:45):
dad's very much came like that. I mean, we had
just finished the race for governor and he had just
been campaigning, and then it's like everybody keeps things from
you out of protecting and to keep it close.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
But what I wanted to salute was this this hopeful.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Energy within our community of being more transparent around ours
and our family members health journeys. I don't mean the
broadcast it, but amongst with each other, so that we
can kind of disrupt this cycle of secrecy there that
is very deadly and I think creates something I didn't
really realize or really associate before, which is a real
(57:19):
trauma in me about health and health updates and whether
or not the only time you share is when somebody's
about to tap out. And and and I think we've
I think that tradition is deadly. I think is much
more in the spirit of who we truly are as
(57:40):
a people to be sharing with our with our with
our with our close people so that they can champion
and pray for us uh and help to keep us
on the straight and narrow as we all try to
navigate this life and live the best of it. So
that's my scene today.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
I like that I don't know why we're so secretive,
especially with black folks. Yeah, you know, I mean like
our grandparents, like I didn't want to worry anybody, you.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
Know, absolutely my dad was that way. He didn't want
to load on.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
And if they weren't, it was like, you got enough
to deal with in your life, you know, you don't
have to do, you know, deal with mine either. And
then some of it is like a little shame. You know,
maybe he didn't go to his doctor every year, and
so maybe he thought by having, you know, avoided all
that stuff, that that he was in some way part
responsible for the situation.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
I mean any number of things.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Y'all may have ideas out there listeners, family around while
we do that, and I.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
Do think we got to do a better job of
just lifting it up.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Angela, you've exhibited and been very transparent, you know, I
think and beyond with with our listening audiences as you're
navigating it very personally. But I was talking to my
sister and just completely lost control last night in the
conversation because when I got the note about joining the Zoom,
I thought that this, you know, I'm like, you know,
what is am I just learning that there's something here
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that about to happen?
Speaker 3 (59:01):
And I was afraid about joining.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
And the truth is is Our family has worked really
hard over the last couple of years since the passing
of both my dad and his brother's illness and my
grandmother and grandfather.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
That we have got to do a better job.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Of one just as a family and being in concert
and connection, but two as we all grow older our
health and how we can support each other through it.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
I love that. Well, this is why we encourage you
all to please tell a friend about the show, because
I you know, we don't know everyone who listens, but
we know most of y'all who listen, we have the
same background. There's a lot of commonality here, so hopefully
and listen to this conversation. It will invite somebody to
be more open about their health status and more open
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about something that they're going through health wise. Don't do
that to your kids. I have to tell you, like
I've always had to hear about something going on my
mom from somebody else, and it's like, yeah, just you know,
share that information with your kids. And if you know
somebody who's going to do something, please send them this
episode so maybe they can be encouraged to share.
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Speaker 4 (00:09):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
This is episode eighty five of Native Lampod, where we
give you our breakdown on all things politics and culture.
Where your hosts, unless say, changed from last week, Tiffany Cross.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Angela Rode, and I'm Andrew Gillan. What's up, y'all?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Ag Andrew, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Great question.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I will yield to you first what you want to
what you want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I am a little nervous about what's happening in Iran,
but not so much about what's happening there. I'm really
curious about how it impacts us. So, like, what happens
if you know, a nuke hits the United States, or
or what happens if it's just the fall of society
and government is not functioning. How will we survive? And
(00:58):
I'm interested in that because Angela, I'm at the state
of the people who are had a whole simulation around
what would happen, and I haven't been able to stop
thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Interesting, Angela, what's up?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
I want to make sure that I give you all
the video that we can drop on this show, by
the way, from that simulation. But I also I want
to talk about survival skills. I know we have a
guest joining us to talk about just that, and it
feels very urgent to me that we're a little unprepared.
I don't know if it's my homeland security background or what,
but you go to Ready dot gov right now and
(01:31):
they've even taken down a national Infrastructure security report that
we would normally go to to rely on for what
happens if the electric group is attacked.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, then I watch all to survive.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Finally, y'all, I think I love for us to just
get a little conversation going about what happened this week
in New York's very important race for mayor. So let's
get into it. Well, y'all heard what we're talking about today.
But before we get going, we want to remind you
that if you like this show and you want to
(02:02):
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thank you. In advance, we're counting on you to help
us repad the word.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Andrew, speaking of spreading the word, we actually one of
our regular viewers who sends in questions all the time.
I just want to remind the viewers please send in
a video of yourselves with questions comments. If we say
something you agree with disagree with, you know this is
a conversation with you. We are not three people talking
(02:38):
at you. So we so appreciate when y'all send in videos.
And this brother has sent in a lot, so let's
hear from him.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Hated of Lamb folks is Ernest Champelle. Once again, I'm
inside today, so it's not gonna be loud and noisy
like you guys clown me on before. But anyway, just
want to make a comment about why it's important that
black people are concerned about Iran, Israel and now the
United States war.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You remember.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
World War two. That war was fought in Europe, but
when the United States got pulled into it, hundreds of
thousands of black gis and clean. Both my grandfathers and
a great uncle, and I'm sure you guys have relatives
who were in the war got drawn into it, they
got drafted into it. They had to go fight. It's
(03:28):
fast forward to the Vietnam War and the Korean War.
Black people had to go fight. Let's fast forward again
and the Iraq War, and once again, young brothers had
to go fight. And I remember living in Washington, d C.
Near the old Walter Reed and I would see soldiers
coming back who lost their legs, and these young men
(03:50):
were mad and angry, and so a lot of people like, well,
you know, I got to deal with issues in here
in America, but you got to understand everything's related, especially
when it comes to economics. So get ready for gas
prices to go up, because the Iranians are gonna cut
off the Spicott and whatever oil's passing through that straight
up horror moves is gonna get stuck because you've got
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all this fighting.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Ernest, well, thank you for that, and we thank you
for being inside. We clowned you with with love, my
brother the.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Same way in the middle of our intro.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
We we uh yes, and we we are so grateful
that you take the time, want to listen to us
every week, but also to drop a video and uh
offer your questions and commentary. And that's such a good
point that he made, because should Congress and the President
reinstate the military draft, our boys would would be at
(04:48):
risk first, and so you know could at bone spurs
as we know did not. He was a dodge or
draft dodger. Uh and Donald Trump, but he is all
too willing to put us in a position to have
our boys go and fight an award that they did
not start. So thank you, thank you for that perspective.
This is why we like having conversation with our viewers
(05:10):
and we love hearing your points. Andrew. I'm concerned because
the last time we were all together, the United States
had not bombed Iran the Foord, Oh site. Now we
understand that we have not even really disrupted their nuclear process.
So at this point I am thinking about That's why
(05:32):
at the State of the People tour in Baltimore, one
of my favorite parts, we were just walking through a
group of us me Joy read the Mario Solomon Simmons.
We were just walking through and Michael Harriet and his
wife Karen and Angela said, do you guys even know
what you're walking through? We were like, no, what is this?
It was like just shells with empty food, and it
was an entire simulation of what happens should society fall,
(05:58):
and Iran is not the only way that society can
fall if a nuke gets If we get hit by
a nuke, the coastal cities are done. All of us
live in coastal cities, and so you might have a
situation where it's just Middle America that's left. There's no
functioning government. What does that look like? So I'm a
little nervous about it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I want to hear from Andrew, but Angela, I want
to hear from you because you were talking about in
our pre production call some five point plan or five
action plan or something. So I'm just curious what y'all
think about all of that, and how nervous y'all are.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Andrew, are you going?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I thought you okay, whomever you go.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Okay, Andrew sink is Lencoln, so I would just say yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
So I was just like, you know, just in case
in case of christ.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I got the issues out of order I was taking,
So you go, okay.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
No worries.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
So what we did in Baltimore was create like what
is commonly been known as tabletop exercises or I was
calling it a five points activation. And the reason we
did this is to ensure that our folks could get
ready again. We spend a lot of time telling people
all of the things that can happen, and you know,
(07:12):
all of the crises that we are just write one
step away from experiencing, but not a lot of time
on how we prepare for them.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
So all of this is inevitable.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
It seems to me that our most reasonable service is
getting people, at least prime to think about how they
would respond. So our first activation point was a store,
a convenience store where there was nothing left on the
shelves and they were in the middle of a food
and water supply shortage. How do you respond if there's
no food on the shelves, and even in the convenience store,
(07:45):
y'all know that, Like if you can't find nothing else,
that's seven eleven my head. At toilet paper, you're looking
for people experienced that during the pandemic. So if you
go there and there's nothing, now, what do you do
you know? Do you know about the black vendor that
sells toilet paper? Can you order a in bulk? Do
you know about the folks down the street that have
a natural spring and you can get bottled spring water.
(08:06):
Do you know about the local black farmers that produce
different types of crops and produce and you know all
of these things? Do you know about them? Are you
connected to them? The second point was whe where the
electric grid was attacked and power had been out for
thirty days, we had someone acting. Eugene was acting. Even
the battery operated candles, like people will be like, oh, well,
(08:27):
I'll be good because I have these candles. What happens
if you don't have to write batteries?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
You know? What are you going to eat?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Do you have the type of meals where you can
put mix it with hot water and you now have
meals for.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
A little while? Do you have enough bottled water?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Like?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
What are all those things?
Speaker 7 (08:40):
The third point was if the cell phone towers are
down completely and there's no internet either. We rely on
these things so that we can organize ourselves around this.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I can call my parents.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Don't worry if I can't drive because the power goes
out in my car it's stuck in the garage, I'll
call it uper.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Are you whose number do you read?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Do you even remember? Like I don't remember a lot
of people's numbers anymore. When we remember a week of
dial right, right.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
That's it? So whose numbers do you know by heart?
If you can't?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
If you have those phone numbers but the cell phone
towers are down, do you have a satellite phone?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Did you know about satellite phones?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Right?
Speaker 7 (09:17):
The next bunker or the next activation was a bunker.
If there's a white supremacist attack like the J sixers,
who are basically running the country at this point, attack
black folks just like they're doing or wearing random ice
where uniforms. You don't even know if these are actual
ice officers. What happens if the attack comes to your
front door or at least on your block. Are you prepared?
(09:39):
Do you know how to defend yourselves? Do you have
the tools necessary to defend yourselves? The final activation point,
which I thought was the most scary, and we're starting
to see it become more and more real every day,
is the ice holding facility and officers were grabbing people
off the line as they came through and zip tying
them and sitting them along the floor. We had a
surveillance that and what happens. There was a recording that said,
(10:03):
you're at an ice holding facility, you don't have any rights.
You don't have a call you can make. You can't
call your lawyer. Bathroom breaks are at nine am and
five pm, and we'll give you water when we have it.
There's no food right now. How do you respond in
an environment like that? How do you know to get
your folks out? Do you know where to find them?
Is there some what is the thing that we put
together to ensure that from dread Scott the deportation?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
As LDF said right, that we actually.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Have some type of protection of our citizenship ship which
is hanging in the balance right now.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, so those are the part points. That's amazing. I'm
scared again, but that's amazing.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Well, the idea is not to scary the ideas to
force us in the conversations where we think about how
we solve for them.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
They are scary. Tip, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
But for me, the one thing that gave me solace
besides the ice one which is really scary and I
don't have a saft for it.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
We do have.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Answers for most of those. They're expensive too, you know,
like can we have it? Can we all pull together
by a generator if if you know, if the electric
grid goes out can we do that?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
So anyway, well, Andrew doesn't have a sink right now,
so what I'm curious.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
How are you.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Gyard?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And you know I don't have buterations though, because you
have three children, you have a wife, and to be
honest with you, look forgive me feminists if this sounds sexist,
but truly, if there is a man around, we all
look into you like you got to figure out. I'm
gonna take care of myself. But I wouldn't be if
I was at your house, Andrew, I would be looking
(11:35):
at you. You have to figure out how to get
us out of here safely, and then your whole family
is gonna be looking to you in that moment, Daddy
and husband, what's your plan for us to get out
of here safely?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And as we know, we've all got lots of friends
single and otherwise that you know you had a household,
you got to care for the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I was just trying to explain to my.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Kids how uh they have to set the example when
their friends come over for how to treat our home,
because if you don't know how to take care of
your home and set the expectation that if you drop
a thing that's food on the floor, you should pick
it up immediately because we don't want that squished into
the wood floor of our home, you know, to take
(12:20):
some pride in that, but to take that to its
logical extension, we do have to be prepared.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What I was thinking about when I.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Was listening to some of the scenario playing is that
it doesn't require a war for us to get to
the point where we have to rely on these things.
I mean, I live in Florida.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
We deal with hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean it feels like, you know, year round, and
in some ways it's many years round because you know,
in some instances you're three four years later still trying
to recover from a storm that that affected your home
back then. And yes, crises also show up. But I
think this is important and this is why our guests
who will be bringing on a few I think is
(12:55):
going to be relevant for our audience, and that is
you just never know. And in the context of war,
when we are seeing nations and nation states move away
from you know, wars showing up in the form of
military troops, you know, landing and disembarking and walking down streets,
that's gonna be our home front issue visa ve look
(13:18):
at what we see happening under this president in California
and elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
But when you deal with players that.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Are not as let's say vast as the United States
with regard to as military capacity, there are many of
them are going to the systems that disrupt the things
that we rely on every single day. So what happens
if through the push of a button over the internet
from anywhere, someone can shut your grid down, someone can
(13:47):
contaminate your water system where you live, someone can decide
that they're going to play with the lights at this
intersection and that intersection and turn out the whole city.
What it is that we do to to to survive that?
Because when it gets real real, y'all, and this is
really what the power of that kind of warfare suggests,
(14:10):
is that their intention is to turn people against people.
So you take away people's food for long enough, we
become pretty much a pariah, and they are going to
survive for ourselves and for our families. And when it
gets even more scarce, even deadlier, and more harmful, decisions
start to get made. Because what do we all know
(14:32):
to be the truth at the base of all humanity,
and that is that a man wants to survive, the
body is built to do such a thing, and you'll
you'll do whatever is required in order to survive. So
looking forward to looking forward to that, that that conversation.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
All right, it's time to pay some bills. Don't go anywhere, guys,
We'll be right back on the other side of his break. Well,
I just I want to say quickly because I want
to talk about the mayoral race really quickly. But I
(15:10):
just want to say, during the Holocaust, like you had
older people snatching food from babies because it was this
primitive survival instincts that kicked in that you needed to eat.
I am down here in one of those black towns
I told you all about, at the home of Michael Harriet.
And when I tell you, guys like his whole setup,
like they are growing. They're on to Angela's everything. Angela
(15:32):
was saying, I was thinking, I feel so safe right now.
If something happened right now, we do have all the
things Angela talked about there. It sits on twenty two
acres of land. There are multiple gardens, so we could survive,
sustain ourselves. Here, I'm saying, we like I live with
Michael inn. But we have literally I'm hiding things here
(15:53):
so I don't have to pack them every time I come,
but they get there. And that's another thing. If you
have to flee your area and airports are down, everybody's
going to be on the train tracks, everybody's going to
be on the highway. Are you the kind of person
that builds community, community or you the kind of person
that fights for your own individual survival? I think I'm
the kind of person. I know I'm the kind of
(16:14):
person who would build community. You're welcome to walk with us.
But being here, they are pretty much off the grid.
The house runs on well water. They're growing potatoes, carrots, onions, garlic, everything.
This house is well protected. I'll say that because I
don't know if Michael harry One means a lot of
his business, but it's well protected like we would all be.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
When we talk with our guests, that we can dig
into what are the advantages for those folks who aren't
living in more ruralized areas and still want to survive,
but they don't have the land to grow their own.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
They need blocks from the White House. Andrews, right, I
know you know very well. I don't know if I
feel safer there or do I say, like more of
a target, you know? And I can't because in DC,
you all know you will see snipers on the roof.
That's not that's normal, you know, because like, oh, a
dignitary is probably coming down this street today, and you
know clearly that's the secret service, you know, Will Iranians
(17:15):
or not? I don't want to depend on Iranians. Will
any enemy say I'm going to try to take out
this white house and like Calisi, who cares who's in
the surrounding area? Or will it be a bunch of
sleeper cells awakened and individuals committing random acts of violence
and trying to be prepared for both? And I live alone,
so you know, getting plans of action among our social groups.
(17:39):
If the network is down, it's like, okay, you got
an hour after something happens to walk to my house
and then we're going to flee gas stations if you
don't have gas for your car, like how well you dart?
The gas stations are going to be packed.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So anyway, yeah, questions, Yeah, we got all the questions.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think we hope we'll get to and so to get.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Y'all some answers as we as we bring our guests on.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
But before we get there.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Mondani, in case you missed it, don't be embarrassed. There
was a race held this week in New York. The
pretty big deal for those in the city of New
York because it included, well hel a bunch of candidates,
one of which was the former governor of New York,
Andrew Cuomo, who had been leading the race the entire time.
(18:24):
And then as a result of the elections, when people
got out to be able to decide, they told us
what they wanted. Let's run this clip and see see
what people shows.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Republicans are slamming Mom Donnie as anti capitalism and anti
Semitic for criticizing Israel, which he denies.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He says he's focused on the cost of living.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
We have won because New Yorkers have stood up for
a city they can afford, a city where they can
do more than just struggle, one where those who toil
in the night can enjoy the fruits of their labor
in the day.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So, so we saw and and got to hear. The
news media on the introduction to Zoran's speech, wanted to
type the typecast this race as sort of being about, uh, frankly,
the big national issues, and it sounds to me, based
(19:24):
off of the little and very limited following that I
was able to do from you know, just you know,
down here in Florida, it sounded to me like this
brother really leaned into the everyday issues that appear to
be showing up for people. How do I, you know,
get groceries and under Trump's economy, uh, and still be
able to enjoy the quality of life that I thought
(19:45):
I was going to enjoy, you know, living here. They're
talking about housing, They're talking about rent rates, and how
it is that corporate New York has really taken over
so much of the real estate and made it quite
unaffordable for regular everyday people, uh to to to to
live in the city. I just wanted to quickly share
with y'all that some of the uh, the the surprise
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and the outcome of this race was was really born
about because the money advantage was so significant obviously for
uh the former governor. The former governor also in the
lead up to the election, over Mandani enjoy significant Black
support throughout the city. He began to close the spread
(20:31):
of support amnks black voters throughout New York and the
lead up to the election, collapsing that quite a bit
and obviously running away with it. I'm curious to know
from from the two of you real quick is whether
or not you think this has greater implications for the
City of New York or is there a message here
for Democrats as they figure out how it is they
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run and win elections again.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yes, there is a message here. So I have to say,
because I understand if you don't live in New York,
you might be thinking, well, why do I care about
the New York City mayoral race? But it's so important
because to me, it shows that you can still inspire people.
He ran on a very progressive platform. He was a
state assemblyman, lived an immigrant, lived in Queens, born in Uganda.
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He was a part of this like rap group. So
there are all these videos of him with like all
this flavor, you know, rapping with in this rap group.
He's she a Muslim married to a Syrian woman, and
it's such an important story in transparency. Uh, we have
a friend in the race, well, somebody we know who
(21:35):
I would call a friend in the race anyway, Angela, y'all,
if you're listening, Angela's making a face anyway, Okay, okay,
I have a friend in the race, and I really
value people who have conviction in their beliefs, and Mondani
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had conviction in his beliefs when they asked that he
is not running for leadership in Israel, he is running
for leadership in New York City. And the way the media,
the political elite, the donor class all tried to crush
this man's campaign because he did not have some undying
loyalty to Israel. He defends Israel's right to exist, just
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as he does with the Palestinian people. And so the
friend that I have in the race hedged a little
bit and completely reverse something he was highly critical of Israel.
And then because all this pressure around him, he walked
back his words and it's like, oh, well, I didn't
mean that when I said it, and it was disappointing
to see. So I was out loud and proud and
happy to support Mundani in this race. And to me,
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why it matters if you don't live in New York.
It just shows you can be who you are authentically,
and if you jump out there and take a chance
and run for office, support somebody who's running for office
takes some sort of action, there can be victory. All
you people who ask about third parties, well, third party parties,
you're very seduced by the president. Can we elect the
president who's a third party? Mandannie happens to be a Democrat,
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but a third party person could have run on that
same platform and won this race. It wasn't about the party.
It was about what he was saying, making public transportation,
free freezing rent, and those things resonated with the people
of New York. So I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's going to be more to
watch here, everybody. So if you're listening, know that these
were the primary races that were held this past week,
and that there is still a possibility that candidate Cuomo,
former governor of New York, may file to run in
this race and go to the general election by running
as an independent, and so lots to watch.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Cuomo. Don't do that. And if New York you have
a chance to send a message to the America right
now by doing something progressive. And I applaud you all
for electing Mandannie as your candidate that you're taking to battle,
but please do not put Andrew Cloma. He and Trump
share the same donors. It's like we always say white
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supremacy is nonpartisan, not that he's a white supremacist, but
they share a lot of the same supporters. So AnyWho, Angela,
I know you live in Seattle and you're like, I
am not really into this mayoral race. But what I
think you are into is the message it sends.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yes, I will tell you.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
The one thing that I've been following on social especially
is the number of folks who have felt encouraged by this.
You know, it's really hard to come out of November
last year and not feel all the hopelessness and be like, well,
what do we have to do? Like there's no point.
And also it gives me I have some questions about
(24:44):
these election results still because I don't understand from I'm
talking about from November, not from the man winning yesterday
or sorry this week. I I want people to remember
that there's always something we can do, even when it
does feel hopeless.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
You might not be able to see it, but you know,
the Bible talks about.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Midnight, and a lot of us are raising the church
and we always hear that midnight is the darkest hour.
But you know, Don has to break at some point,
So congratulations to New York on the dawn breaking sooner
for y'all than the rest of us. But the Don
is breaking, it sounds.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Like, Okay, guys, on the other side of this break,
we're going to talk about survival of the fittest. And
I don't mean in the gym, I mean in the streets.
Don't go anywhere. We'll tell you what we're talking about
on the other side. All right, time for our guests,
(25:41):
and I'm so so excited. We all are so excited
to welcome Sharon Ross, better known as an Afro Vivalist,
and yes, we're going to get into all of what
that means. Sharon Ross, thank you so much for joining us.
You would do a much better job saying what you
do and what is an AFRO. Before you joined the show,
we were all talking about how we're concerned about surviving
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when all of the structural parts of society have collapsed.
What does that look like? And you walk it like
you're talking because you don't just teach about that life,
you're living that life. So walk us through who you
are and what is an afro biblist.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Everybody, I'm AFRO biblist. I am a African American survivalist.
Put that together and it's Afro biblist. So I came
up with that because I am a I am my
father's son. Growing up, he was a marine and my
little sister was too prissy to hang out with him,
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and I was the tomboy. So that's why I say
I'm my father's son. And he is the one who
started me on my journey to learning how to hunt,
learning how to protect myself. I grew up in a
all white community with which is where I ended up today,
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and I had to learn how to survive in an
all white community in the early seventies. So I grew
up hunting with him and fishing and learning how to
harvest animals and all of that. And after I graduated
from high school, I moved on to Houston and then
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came back here because that was a culture shock in
Houston for me. It was too many, too many people
and not enough woods for me, so I had to
come back, and long story short, in my thirties, I
decided that well, it was around Katrina that the aha
moment came upon me and said, I do not want
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to be like them. Suffering. I want to prepare and
get ready for whatever it is to come my way.
And so that's where my journey started, on preparing and
being a prepper and getting back out in the woods
and hunting and doing my journey. People thought I was crazy.
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I've lost many, many friends because of it. But granted
they're slowly coming back because they're realizing I'm not that
crazy lady anymore, all right. And and so I started,
you know, teaching a little bit to other people about it.
It was it was hard to get other people, you know,
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ten years ago, sorry about my dog, ten.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Years ago, love it welcome, ten years ago, to.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Try to get people to understand that, hey, something may
happen to us here in the Pacific Northwest, especially you know,
the big earthquake that the Pacific Northwest is supposed to have.
I mean, we're twelve years behind, so they're saying we're
supposed to have a big one. Even with people knowing
that I was still the crazy cu Cooh conspiracy theorists
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all of that, and so slowly people started asking me
to join them and get presentations and classes and whatnot.
And uh, when it came to COVID, people were going
crazy in my office on Oh my god, I need
to go get supplies. And I was telling people then
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before it got to the States, because I I don't
watch local news. I watch international news, and international news
was telling us the truth. So I was telling people,
y'all really need to uh take this COVID thing that's
going over in China seriously because it's going to come
to us. And they're like, yeah, whatever, you're you're stupid,
(29:44):
you're crazy, you know what. Whatever, And uh so I
started ordering my my respiratory mask and and everything that
I was needing, and they already knew that I was prepping.
So I was. I had my food, I had water,
I was good to go. I was good to go.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Well, you were smart to do that. I'm so so
sorry didn't just because we're tight on time, but you
were so smart to do that. But I definitely want
Angela to be able to jump in and ask you
a question because she just did this great simulation and
we want our to equip our audience with some specifics
of what they need. So Angela, I'm tossing it to you.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Thank you so much, Tip and Sharon for joining us today.
You had my ears perk up when you said Pacific Northwest.
I'm born and raised in Seattle, and I moved back
home last summer full time. I've been split in time
between here and LA and before that between l A
and d C. But I wanted to first say that
I hope I can put you in my emergency front.
(30:43):
We are going to do five people that we need
to be in connect connected to in this this arm
again and were about to go into. So hopefully I
can put you on my list. I'm gonna save and
remember your ten digit phone number. But I also want
to say that I think it's really important.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Yes, let me just say to be in my group,
you need a year's worth of supplies. If you plan
on coming, if you get the invitation to join me
on my sixty five acres, you have to have a
year's supply for every person in your family or you're not.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Getting this is This is excellent, Sharon, this is perfect.
So can you talk us through one. How have you
prepared yourself to survive? I hear you saying sixty five
acres when you say a year's worth of supplies, walk
us through this like we slow and low kids, we
don't know, So talk to us about how we prepare
and we get sharing afro vibilists ready. We want to
(31:37):
get it ready, we want to get it right. So
tell us what I'm taking notes, What are the supplies
we need for a year?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Or is that where you would start?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Where you start is in your kitchen. Look through your
cabinets and find any and all shelf life stable foods
meaning rice, beans, canned foods, dried foods, which is the
high or freeze drive foods. Pull all of that out,
put it in a tote and put it aside. And
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that's where you're gonna start with your pantry supplies. And
then after that, you want to start going to your
food pantries. If you look up I think if you
google food pantries near me, it'll pop up every food
pantry in the United States and you can literally find
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what's in your area. I would guarantee, I would suggest
that you go to every pantry that you can that
will allow you to get food. The fastest way to
build up your pantry supplies is going to a food pantry.
Save your money for now, because you're gonna need a generator,
You're gonna need water purification systems. And if this war
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pops off, you're gonna need a full face mask with
the respiratory uh filters. There's a lot. So I always
tell people to try to save your money and utilize
the food pantries first. Now people look at me and
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say like, oh, but I'm I work full time. You know,
I'm taking for other from other people. But keep in
mind that from me. I used to work volunteer at pantries.
We threw away a lot of people, a lot of
food because people have the nerve to be picky. You're
getting free food and they have the nerve to be
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and so at the end of the day we would
have to throw that food out. So I still recommend.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
You reference sharing a generator and a water purification system.
A lot of folks talk about not getting generators because
they're cost prohibitive. Can you talk to us about reasonably
priced generators, reasonably priced systems?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
No, we're here, Can you hear us?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I can hear you.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
Yes, Okay, So I was saying in your remarks you
mentioned getting a generator in a water purification system.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Can you talk to us.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
About reasonably priced water and water purification systems and generators?
And if that is, what is required for your years
long supply to go on your sixty five acres.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
So I'm gonna kind of eliminate my sixty five acres
from it because I'm fully now and you guys are
just starting. You can't start where I'm at. So I
would say, use your water catchments. Also, use your roofing.
If you're living on a house, use the water from
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your gutter and to have that drain into a fifty
five gallon water barrel. And because you can use that
water later on to purify it, to drink, to you
bathe in and whatnot. And then the best, I like,
the best water purification system would be Soyer, which is
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s A W y e R. They have a household
system that you can use set up to your system
and it's a drip system that goes into a container
that you would need to use a generator. If you're
living in a house and the electricity goes down, you're
gonna need one of those. And right now generators are
(35:31):
a hot item because people who are going through these
natural disasters are buying generators. I mean I have five.
I mean people are like, yeah, you're doing too much,
but you know what, I have a backup, my backup,
to my backup, to my backup. I mean when I
find them on sale, I buy them. So there you
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got your water purification system, you got your generator. And
another thing I would also recommend is a solar generator.
So you go out and buy I use. Let me
show you I am now plugged into.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Jackery and and say more about jackeriye, say it again.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Can you explain that.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Is a solar generator. So you hook this to your
solar panels and it will charge and it will get
full up to one hundred percent. I don't know if
you can see that, but I have seventy four percent
on here.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
But when I play, it'll hold the electric power, it'll
hold it.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
And this is a little one. This is just from
my laptop my cell phone. But I have a bigger
one that's over there that's running, that's being charged right
now for the generator. And that's the one that I
use at night. So during the day I use this
fallen and then the larger one I use at night.
So during the day, when the generator is running, I'm
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running the big one to make sure that's one hundred percent.
Once it gets to one hundred percent, I disconnect it,
turn it off, and then when it gets to night time,
I turn it back on. And that's what I use
at night if I want to watch a movie or
something like that. But Jackery, I recommend this one I
found on sale for one ninety nine. The bigger ones
they can be in the thousands, but I recommend them
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because they will come with your solar panels and they
work great when.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I have That's good advice.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
When I have the Jackerie plugged into the solar panels.
Believe it or not, they charge faster on the solar
panels by the sun than they do from the generator. Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
So what I'm share in Yes, I have a quick
question as we were thinking about our listeners all across
the country you had alluded to in your earlier statements.
If this war pops off, there are all kinds of
scenarios that can lead people wherever they are in the country,
whether they're living lifestyles similar to yours or in more
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urbanized areas, or they could be you know, in rural
south but collected to the grid system, and so everything
is pretty much provided when it comes to an urban service,
if you will. So, as we think about the kinds
of scenarios that might lead people sort of down this road.
I'd love to hear you articulate what maybe just some
of those might be. And then second, if we accept
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that to be the case and we want to then
make preparation, what would you recommend You mentioned you know,
you're clearly at a much more advanced level, But for
the rest of us that are out here who are
comfortably where we are and just don't want to put
at risk really life and health should emergencies, you know,
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impact us, what kind of guidance would you offer around
getting started.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
So it gets started other than what I've already spoke
about is yes, Because so what I think is going
to happen is our enemies out there know that our
power grid sucks, they know it's bad, they know it's
one hundred years old, et cetera. So I don't think
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and I hope that they won't nuke us, if you
know what I mean about doing a ground attack. What
I think may happen is they'll set something off above
our atmosphere and that will take down our whole grid
once they do, or they will attack the substations. So
we've got fifty five thousand substations in the New United States.
(39:44):
All they have to do is take out nine nine
to take out the whole country. Okay, So that's why
it's important to get a solar system set up, get
your solar s up and ready to go, just in case,
because you know they can't put out the sun. Well
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they might, but the sun's going to be there for us.
Then the electricity will be if an attack is taken
upon us here in the United States.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
There's also things like ham communicating via radio like Ham radio,
and but even just trying to find each other in
the immediate aftermath of something happening. I've bore witness of
this myself. I was at CNN at the time nine
to eleven happened, and you could not get in or
out of DC. It was complete gridlock. I was angel.
(40:37):
I believe you were still in DC when an earthquake
happened and you weren't there. This was like twenty ten,
twenty eleven. I thought you were still living there then,
But there was an earthquake that happened in DC that
reached d C and you another time where you couldn't
really get in or out. My question is about weaponry
because as black people, we are in a unique position where, yes,
(40:59):
we can fear and Iranian regime wanting to defend their
land by striking us here domestically. However, we also have
homegrown terrorism that is now operating out of the White House,
that has emboldened white nationalists, that actually employs white nationalists
within the administration. And so in terms of defending ourselves,
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I'm curious your thoughts on can you hear me, miss Ross?
Are you still there?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Okay, So in terms of defending ourselves, you know, I'm
learning how to shoot a shotgun, but what kind of
weaponry should we be thinking about, if any? Obviously in
states where it's legal and going through a legal process, right.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
So I was just gonna say, if any, find first
find out if what you can carry, Go out and
get your license to carry. Number one, be legal about it.
Number two, go out and find I would suggest to
go to a range and just sample different firearms and
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see what you're comfortable with before you go out and purchase.
And then once you purchase, go join a class and
learn how to use that firearm properly. It's really important
because you know, you still got people out there who
think they can hold their guns like this, you know,
and that ain't the right way to hold a gun,
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you know, And you got to learn the importance of
that gun being on safety and why it should be
on safety at all times until you're able, until you're
wanting to use it. So take those steps first and
start researching what type of firearms you want, if anything,
you would want any something small enough to be on
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your person so you can be able to conceal it
when you're going into a crowd or you know, going
into the stores or whatnot, because a lot of people
still will they'll freak out when they, you know nowadays,
when they see someone walking through the store, you know,
with the gun on them. You know, you want to
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make sure that it's concealed, and it will just cause
your problems in the future if if you're exposing yourself
because you know, you got people out there, who are
you know, gonna be panicking or whatnot, thinking you're gonna
shoot up the store or whatever. So be careful with that.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
The dog agrees with you and.
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Sharing I was gonna I was gonna ask. So you
talked about the pantry, we talked about property. We haven't
really talked as much about produce or the other things
that we need to ensure that we're okay. So I
don't know if folks if there's a way that folks
can tap in with you and learn, like what is
that down that list you know of things that people
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need to survive for a year, whether they're on your
property or not. What does that look like? Give in
the crisis that is looming, we want to ensure that
our audience, our listening audience, and their family.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
Members are okay.
Speaker 7 (44:06):
I've learned a lot about satellite phones recently and the
importance of AVA ass to that tip just talked about radio.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
What are the other things that we.
Speaker 7 (44:14):
Really need to be leaning into in these treacherous times.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
You want to make sure that you have all of
your medications prescriptions if you can get if you have
to take a medication on a regular basis, talk to
your doctor and see if you can get a minimum
of a three month supply. And start stalking up on meds,
even over the counter medications. When you're going to the
stores and you find you know, allergy medicines, diarrhea medicines
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that are on sale byom and just start stocking up
on them, I stalked up on toothbrushes. So my routine
when I was in the city before I moved here
to my homestead, I would go to the dollar store,
grocery outlet and ace hardware. They were like on each corner.
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That's what I called my prepper corner. And I would
go into grocery outlet and tell myself, Okay, my limit
is a dollar ninety nine, and if I can buy
something for a dollar ninety nine, I can get as
many as I want. So I would find toothbrush packets
for dollar ninety nine, toothpaste, those dental floss things, you know,
(45:30):
anything for a dollar ninety nine and under, and I
would buy those. Anything, any canned foods that was a
dollar ninety nine, I'd buy any medications. And then sometimes
I'd go in and say, okay, today's my five dollar limit.
I can buy anything five dollars or less and find
them on sale. And that's another good way to stock
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up there. You know you want to get a lot
of your personal hygiene items, start stocking up on that,
on your soaps, on your detergents. I make my own
laundry detergent, which consists of borax baking soda, a washing
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powder soot soap, and then a scented what do you
call those? You know, the scented Yeah, the smell good.
If you get those, you combine all those two together
one tablespoon I'm sorry, one uh one fourth cup is
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good enough for a whole load, so you don't need
to use a lot of it. Oh and I also
put oxyclean in that mixture too, so you don't need
a lot of it. And it lasts a long time.
I'm on a three gallon bucket that I made and
it's I'm still I've still got like a year left
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of use from that. So things like that. Think about
your soaps because if you go out and buy those
big soaps, you know, the big block soaps you can take,
you can cut those down to like the Hotel fiaps.
So one of those big soaps can bring can get
you twelve of the Hotel five soaps, you know what
(47:20):
I mean? So think that way. Think always think, Okay,
if I'm going to buy this, how long is it
going to last me? And then can I stretch it?
How long? How long can I stretch it out? That
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, sharing your advice has been really really good for us,
and we know we've got to get you out of
here soon.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
But I wanted to just ask if.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
There are resources that you would recommend folks access from
wherever they live. If it's going to a website that
you find particularly helpful, or if there's an organization that
you've connected with that you might want to recommend that
folks go to to get more information. I love if
(48:04):
you could do that, and then I didn't hear the
answer to it, so I just want to ask it
one more time, and that is for radio communication. If
satellites were to go down, are we talking analog? What
do you recommend for being able to be connected via coms?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Satellites will evangel go down? I think Ham radios are good.
I do have my HAMD radio license, but there is
a radio etiquette to it. So you need to join
a class and learn what that etiquette is because it
is FCC license and it is against the law to
not follow their etiquette. And then if you don't want
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to use a HAM radio, find a radio that's got
a long range to it where and then give each
one of those to your team members and then start
practicing the use it, start creating your own code, so
you only you and your team will know what that
code means. Okay, satellite phones, that's an iffy iffy because
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they're really expensive and then they have an expensive monthly service.
So unless you are using that every single day to
get your money's worth out of it, satellite phones can
be kind of iffy iffy. There is an app on
your phones. I think it's called zel o z E
l l O and it's a walkie talkie system. So
(49:29):
go on your phone and get find the apps that
are off grid apps that you can communicate with two
other people and you can set your all your team
members up on that and you be able to utilize
your your utilize that app through your phone off grid
when the grid is down, so your phone may be
(49:50):
you may not be able to make a call, but
you'll be able to use that app as a radio
to call your members.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Excellent advice and I'm loving that you're you're recommending that
you get practice with this before an emergency hits. Yeah,
and then resources was the was it was the other
resources that you'd recommend.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Which which one to learn more about what it means
survive right now?
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Survived so of course.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
You know go to my website. Really, so my website
is it's it's a disaster because I had a web
designer doing it and now he's gone and I can't
get to my website. I can't update it, but it's
still information there to go to get current, go to
my Facebook page afro Bibleist Facebook page, and I do
(50:46):
have lists on there that has a full list of
what you need to survive, a full list. I even
asked chat GPT about it and it's on there and
Jack chat GPT has a good list and I shared
that list. So when you want to find anything current
when it comes to prepping or any kind of knowledge
(51:07):
that I'm putting out there, most likely I'm going to
put it on my Facebook page first because I'm still
trying to get access.
Speaker 7 (51:16):
To and I'm sharing one last thing. Oh sorry, no,
I didn't mean to go off. I was going to say,
we just did this process where we got experts, policy
experts from a variety of fields to contribute to our
black papers, policy initiative process through State of the People,
(51:37):
and we don't have one on survival skill. So I
would love if you would consider doing a black paper
on that to help expose our audience and our people,
our communities to what's needed to be able to survive.
Right now, your list, the other things that you feel
comfortable sharing, we would love to have you. I would
connect you to doctor David Johns, who's the editor in
chief of that process.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Okay, well, listeners, you all have heard it direct here
from the expert.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Herself and what it means to survive.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Well, as far as I'm concerned, you ain't said a
silly thing yet. All of it makes sense for survival
and we want to make sure that we are and
we and our listeners are equipped for whatever the condition
might be, you know, getting off the grid and living
you know, more independently might be some folks's aim and
others that just might be I don't know what might
(52:29):
come right and how do I make sure I protect
my family and myself. We thank you so much for
being so generous with your time, miss sharing, and want
to make sure that you leave any contact information with
us that we can share with the listeners that you
are willing to, so that folks have a way that
they can get directly to you. And of course, as
(52:51):
you mentioned before, following you on your Facebook page.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
So feel free so one thing before I give that
announcement is also go hit your second supply stores like
your Goodwills and whatnot, and start purchasing shoes for your
children that are one, two, three, four sizes too big.
Shoes and clothes. If you got infants, go buy them secondhand,
(53:16):
get them washed, and put those aside, because when it
comes to that there's we're gonna be suffering in the
next six months to a year and beyond. So make
sure that you've got enough clothes. Go out and buy
your blankets. Go get the second hand blankets and then
wash them and then put them away. You can find
(53:38):
more information like I said, on me at afrobiblist dot com,
afroviolists on YouTube, which I don't do a lot, afro
biblists on Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
Like I said, perfect, Thank you so much, Afrovibleist. We
learned a lot. Thank you so much for doing all right. Well,
I'm going to get all my supplies to make sure
we're good and on the other side of this break,
we're going to tell you what we need you guys
to do this week. Don't go anywhere, y'all.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
We have had a full show and still so much
to talk about, but want to make sure that we
get the chance to issue what our audiences and joys
hearing from each of us each weekend.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
That is, what are your tegaways?
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Give me your CTA answer, Latiff, what do you want
us to do or know?
Speaker 7 (54:39):
Mine is to find five people in your city whose
phone numbers you could memorize and who you can stay
connected to in a time of crisis. I would definitely
encourage that that's mine for this week.
Speaker 5 (54:54):
That's a good one. Well, I want to thank everybody
from my last CTA. So many people have sent me
vegan recipes and v ideas. I don't know what I'm
gonna do in an apocalyptic America trying to be vegan,
so I want to stay with the survival theme though,
because we got so much good information from our guests,
I would say my CTA is learned. The earth is
(55:14):
so generous with what the earth offers us. So even
if you're in the city, learn gardening, like learn how
to grow your own food, grow tomatoes, grow an avocado,
this great protein, grow onions, like herbs, all of those things. Yeah,
I think that's a good idea because who knows what
(55:34):
tomorrow is going to bring so yeah, let's get back
to like being self sufficient just within ourselves.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
I love that mine is I guess I don't know,
maybe personal, but maybe I think hopefully applicable outside of individual,
and that is I would Last night I participated in
a call for a relative who is right now and surgery.
I won't say money details, but a watching my phone
for the updates that are coming and knowing that God's
(56:02):
doing he he what he must do and we'll do
for successful surgery. But what it reminded me of as
we all were on the zoom talking last night, was
how the history and our community of really secretive or
being secretive around our health, keeping it very close to
the vest. That the time that you are learning about
(56:23):
a relative being gravely ill is when a relative is
called and saying you need to call us and such
because you know they're on their last And I just
thought about how it has built a real trauma scar
for me when I get the update the call, because
now I associate somebody's health update with you know, you
know they're on their way out, and you know, my
(56:45):
dad's very much came like that. I mean, we had
just finished the race for governor and he had just
been campaigning, and then it's like everybody keeps things from
you out of protecting and to keep it close.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
But what I wanted to salute was this this hopeful.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Energy within our community of being more transparent around ours
and our family members health journeys. I don't mean the
broadcast it, but amongst with each other, so that we
can kind of disrupt this cycle of secrecy there that
is very deadly and I think creates something I didn't
really realize or really associate before, which is a real
(57:19):
trauma in me about health and health updates and whether
or not the only time you share is when somebody's
about to tap out. And and and I think we've
I think that tradition is deadly. I think is much
more in the spirit of who we truly are as
(57:40):
a people to be sharing with our with our with
our with our close people so that they can champion
and pray for us uh and help to keep us
on the straight and narrow as we all try to
navigate this life and live the best of it. So
that's my scene today.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
I like that I don't know why we're so secretive,
especially with black folks. Yeah, you know, I mean like
our grandparents, like I didn't want to worry anybody, you.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
Know, absolutely my dad was that way. He didn't want
to load on.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
And if they weren't, it was like, you got enough
to deal with in your life, you know, you don't
have to do, you know, deal with mine either. And
then some of it is like a little shame. You know,
maybe he didn't go to his doctor every year, and
so maybe he thought by having, you know, avoided all
that stuff, that that he was in some way part
responsible for the situation.
Speaker 3 (58:26):
I mean any number of things.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Y'all may have ideas out there listeners, family around while
we do that, and I.
Speaker 3 (58:34):
Do think we got to do a better job of
just lifting it up.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
Angela, you've exhibited and been very transparent, you know, I
think and beyond with with our listening audiences as you're
navigating it very personally. But I was talking to my
sister and just completely lost control last night in the
conversation because when I got the note about joining the Zoom,
I thought that this, you know, I'm like, you know,
what is am I just learning that there's something here
(58:59):
that about to happen?
Speaker 3 (59:01):
And I was afraid about joining.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
And the truth is is Our family has worked really
hard over the last couple of years since the passing
of both my dad and his brother's illness and my
grandmother and grandfather.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
That we have got to do a better job.
Speaker 1 (59:15):
Of one just as a family and being in concert
and connection, but two as we all grow older our
health and how we can support each other through it.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
I love that. Well, this is why we encourage you
all to please tell a friend about the show, because
I you know, we don't know everyone who listens, but
we know most of y'all who listen, we have the
same background. There's a lot of commonality here, so hopefully
and listen to this conversation. It will invite somebody to
be more open about their health status and more open
(59:46):
about something that they're going through health wise. Don't do
that to your kids. I have to tell you, like
I've always had to hear about something going on my
mom from somebody else, and it's like, yeah, just you know,
share that information with your kids. And if you know
somebody who's going to do something, please send them this
episode so maybe they can be encouraged to share.
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