February 4, 2025 • 33 mins
At risk of being attacked by Trump’s oligarchy and their goons, Angela Rye speaks the truth about Elon Musk’s takeover of the federal government. How has Musk not been arrested yet? And doesn’t he have like ten thousand conflicts of interest?
Let’s talk some personal history y’all. “Special Government Employee” Elon Musk has a well-documented and problematic past that tells us what his likely plans for the federal government are.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody. I am happy to be here with you
all today. This is my second solo pod with Native
Lampod and as we say normally, with my co hosts
who aren't with me of course, because it's a solo pod,
Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum shout out to tiff is
her birthday week. Welcome home, y'all. So today we are
getting back into it. Last week, as you all know,
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we covered the federal funding freeze, and this week I
want to talk about President Elon Musk. There are gonna
be a couple of these in this series. I think
next we're going to talk about Steven Miller, who is
the Deputy chief of Staff for Policy at the White House.
But today I think it's really really important for us
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to dive into the role that Elon Musk is playing
in the federal government, the fact that it is very
much outside, perhaps illegal, and he is waiting in the water,
maybe drowning in the water, with conflicts of interest. So
we're going to get into that, I think first and
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foremost what I really want to talk about. Actually, before
I get into anything, let me offer this disclaimer, because
what we know about this White House and the Trump
administration is they are highly litigious. So to cover my
home behind iHeart and reason choice media, let me say this.
I am acknowledging that they are very litigious. That what
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I'm going to talk about today is going to infuriate
some associated with the federal government. Whether they are contractors,
Elon Musk acolytes, Trump acolytes, fans, MAGA protesters, or anything else,
the fact that remains that they are litigious. So I
want you to ensure I want to ensure that you
know the sources. I will cite the sources as much
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as I can. I will do my best to say
what is alleged. I will let you know what is
a theory and what is my inner holy ghost, the
black woman's discernment, and let you know that it is just.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That a theory.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And then I will also be sure as always to
let you know what is a fact, because facts matter
in a day and age where they could not convince
us more that they do not.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They matter.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I will also make sure that I am diligent
about this because.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think that these are Donald Trump's puppet masters.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Starting of course, with Elon Musk, I said, I think
that means it's a theory. So one of the things
that we will also continue to go back to is
Project twenty twenty five. In Project twenty twenty five, efficiency
or inefficiency is mentioned at least sixty times in that document.
So it's no wonder that the Trump administration is working
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diligently to come up with something that makes government more efficient.
In fact, they created an agency, because you know, Republicans
are apparently about big government these days, they added a
new agency. That agency is called the Department of Government Efficiency,
because the best way to make government more efficient is
to add another agency. I'm just kidding if you can't tell.
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So the other thing that I think we should talk
about is who Donald Trump and Elon were, where their
relationship originated, and how we got to this very treacherous place.
So on July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Elon Musk went
to the platform that he purchased formally known as Twitter
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to endorse Donald Trump. Since then, the evil brother to
True Social has seemingly suppressed the content of its most
progressive users, and has amplified content that is relate to,
related to and bolsters the once banned President Donald Trump.
So let's talk briefly about who Elon Musk is. So
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he is a South African born entrepreneur. He is believed
to be the richest man in the world, with a
reported net worth of more than four hundred and ten
billion dollars. One hundred and fifty billion of that four
hundred and ten billion has been garnered since the twenty
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twenty four election. You heard me right, So he got
a whole additional one hundred and fifty billion dollars since
the election. I think that is worth noting. Next, this
former h one B visa holder. As I said, he
is the South African born richest man in the world.
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Elon Musk got rich from building companies like PayPal and
then going on to invest in companies like Tesla, which
most of us know him from.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And SpaceX.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This election cycle, he establish a pack called America Pack
for those of you who don't know, a pack stands
for political Action committee. So he founded America Political Action
Committee and according to FBC filing, spent seventy two million
dollars to support the election of Donald J.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
T Donald J.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Trump so again July endorsement established his America Pack spends
seventy two million dollars of his own money to help
get Donald Trump elected. I would say a theory is
he did a little bit more than that. You all
know my theory if you watch the podcast. If you
don't know my theory, watch the podcast. It is a theory.
It is not confirmed, but I believe that the SpaceX
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Satellite Division might have had something to do with this
electoral victory.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So there's that now.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I want to also say that that it is that. Well,
I'm just going back to the facts. Let me go
back to the facts. Don't ever bouy my theories for now.
So one of Trump's earliest advisors, Steve Bannon, who you
are may remember. His name may ring a bell because
he was held in contempt of Congress for not cooperating
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with Congress. He said recently that Elon Musk's sole objective is.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
To become a trillionaire.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There is apparently trouble in paradise because Steve Bannon and
Elon must don't rock with each other. Steve Bannon was
fired in the last Trump administration, but he is still
a diehard Maga. So the Magas are scrapping. So he
said that his only goal is to become a trillionaire.
He says that white South Africans are the most racist
on the planet. It's funny to watch the pot calling
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the kettle black, or maybe to watch the pot calling
the kettle white, or to say that the sheet and
the wall match. I don't know, but I just think
it's worth noting. So they're fighting, there's trouble in paradise.
He said that he was going to see to it
by inauguration that Elon Musk did not have the unfettered
access that surprise he has. So Steve Bannon, you fail,
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Try again, for try again now. I want to just
get into the frail a little bit around what's happening
in South Africa. You would will have just noted that
most recently, Donald Trump said that he was going to
cut off all funding the South Africa. I keep emphasizing
the South African born Elon Musk for a reason.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Elon Musk might have something to do with this policy.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So South Africa just announced a land expropriation law, and
that law passed last month. It is designed to redress
the apartheid era confiscation of land owned by black people,
and Donald Trump, in response to this law passing in
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South Africa, made this statement on true social South Africa
is confiscating land and treating certain classes of people very badly.
A massive, a massive human rights violation at a minimum
is happening for all to see. The United States won't
stand for it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
We will act. Also note this part.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Also, I will be cutting off all future spending, all
future funding. I'm sorry about that, all future funding to
South Africa until a full investigation of this situation has
been completed. Now, what is fascinating about this is Donald Trump,
Mister America first himself is real focused on where he's
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going to, you know, lay down the law on a tariff.
He drew that back, he pulled that back, and now
he's talking about funding the South Africa. And South Africa
only receives foreign aid from US to the tune of
four hundred million dollars annually and it's mostly for health programs,
primarily focused around HIV AID support. So it's fascinating that
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he's tied this land expropriation law that is designed to
give people back the land that they once had and
he's saying, we're not going to do this. Now what
you should also know and then I'm gonna get back
to America, roll with me to South Africa a little
bit longer. Elon Mus's hometown homeland home country. Land ownership
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has been a very contentious issue in South Africa. This is,
according to BBC, for more than a century. In nineteen thirteen,
British colonies authorized British colonial authorities pass legislation that restricted
the property rights of the country's black majority. Again, the
law that was just passed is designed to give back
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black folks the land that they once had. The Native's
Land Act left the vast majority of the land under
the control of the white minority and set the foundation
for the forced removal of black people to poor homelands,
homelands and townships. And this is more than three decades ago,
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until the end of apartheid. Now, the other thing that
I think is worth noting is that Elon mu Us
had something to say and it sounded very similar to
what Donald Trump said around returning the land.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And it being a racist policy.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So the Washington Post said that South Africa's government has
framed land reform as a moral social and economic imperative.
I think many of us would agree with that given
our own experiences in this country because of the systemic
dispossession of black South Africans under apartheid. The country did
a land audit in twenty seventeen, and that land audit
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says that the white population in South Africa owned seventy
two percent of individually owned farms and agricultural holdings. Mixed
race citizens also known as coloreds in South Africa owned
fifteen percent, Indians owned five percent, In Africans owned four percent. Now,
what you need to know is, according to the twenty
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twenty two census in South Africa, white folks made up
seven point three percent of the population, but again owned
seventy two percent of the farms and agricultural lands. So
when Elon Musk says, why do you guys have openly
racist ownership laws, he's not looking at the data and
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he's not looking at the impact, not even the intention
of the law. We talked several times now about what
the intention of that law is. But Elon Musk is
focusing on the fact that white South Africans like him
are going to perhaps get land snatched, that they're not
even occupying. By the way, it is unoccupied land, unclaimed
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land that they are returning back to black citizens.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And that is what is bizarre to me.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But what is very clear to me is you know,
for Elon Musk, if it don't make dollars, it don't
make sense. He says, well, it's been noted that Musk's
Starlink satellite internet service was denied and this is a
company that is a subsidiary of SpaceX. It was denied
a license in South Africa because it doesn't meet affirmative
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action criteria.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All of this story to say to you.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That if Elon Musk doesn't have a direct financial opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Or a potential, he don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So the reason that Elon Musk is tweeting about South
Africa and its racist laws ownership laws is really because
this is a theory, by the way, is really because
Elon Musk is frustrated by the fact that his company,
Starlink Satellite was denied a license in South Africa. So
now he's questioning everything they do to create equitable outcomes
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for people who have suffered under an apartheid system and
still haven't seen equity, equality and justice. If we're honest.
So he has Donald Trump in the fray around the
expropriation law, but really he wants to upset what's going
on in South Africa because he didn't get a contract
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which brings us to the United States. So what we
also know is that Elon Musk has marched his white
man privilege into the White House, into the White House
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complex at that with office space in his role as
the Department of Government Efficiency lead, and Donald Trump has
named him a special government employee. There is a big well, actually,
there are several big issues with Elon Musk being named
a special government employee, especially because in some ways it
appears so again this is a theory, it appears that
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Donald Trump and his administration don't understand that conflict of
interest and ethics still apply to special government employees. So
I want to get into that a little bit because
I think it's important to understand. One, Elon must South
African descent, since they can't stand immigrant so much. It
depends apparently white immigrants are in the clear, but he's
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a South African immigrant who now has unfettered access to
the federal government. Anybody that has created an obstacle for
him economically he's going after we saw him do that
most recently with the South African president, and he's gotten
Donald Trump in the frey there.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But furthermore, furthermore.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
We need to understand what he plans to do with
the Department of Government efficiency and how it will benefit
President Elon Musk. So I got a question, Lolo, you
just sent me from someone who said, who is leading
the investigation? What investigation are y'all talking about? I've been
talking for a long time. Just run that thing back
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for me.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So, now let's go into Elon musk potential bias as
a special government employee, the conflicts of interests that are there,
as well as the government business he has, and why
this might create a much larger issue. So special government
employees are defined in eighteen USC. Section two oho two,
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that is, Title eighteen of the United States Code, Section
two zero two.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What can we do that does not include the Supreme Court?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Okay, these questions are I'm gonna keep I'm gonna get
through my monologue and then I'll go back to these questions.
But a special government employee means that the person's work
does not normally exceed one hundred and thirty days annually.
We know there's three hundred and sixty five days in
a year. One hundred and thirty days may not It
may be no problem. Elon muss and his friends may
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be no problem. They sleeping in government buildings, we'll get
into that later.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
May not be a problem.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But there are some other problems. So special government employees
do have rules that apply to them. Donald Trump seemed
to try to skirt by this issue in a press
conference yesterday when he said, you know, it doesn't matter.
Elon Musk is a special government employee who also isn't
getting paid, So we'll call them a special government volunteer.
Maybe they intend to introduce a new category of employee
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where none of the conflict of interests and ethics rules
apply to them, or for now they do.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
While he doesn't have to comply with every ethics rule
and conflict of interest rule that it normally applies to
a full time government employee, appointed position, et cetera, special
government employees do have rules, and especially around financial disclosures, ethics,
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and misuse of position. So the in the misuse of
position part of the law, it says you cannot use
public office for their own private gain or private gains
of friends. Okay, So remember that eighteen USC. Two eight
A says it prohibits you from participating personally and substantially
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in any particular matter that affects your finance interests as
well as the financial interests of your spouse, minor child,
general partner, an organization in which you serve as an officer, director, trustee,
general partner, or employee, or an organization with which you
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are negotiating or with which you have an arrangement for
perspective employment. So we are going to shortly get into
the many places where Elon Musk's companies have government contracts
and why it is a problem that he accessed all
of the payment systems for the Department of Treasury, along
with several others. So I don't know if Donald Trump
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and Elon Musk will get rid of FDIC. Congress can
introduce legislation to stop them. And I'm just stopping here
because there are more questions that are coming in and
I think that what is most important is for the
Democratic minority in the Senate and the House to find
who their potential are allies are on the other side
of the out and the Senate, in the House that
are in districts where their majorities are thin. Maybe they
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were formerly blue districts. Maybe they are districts where they're Republicans,
but they're not really Trumpers like that, and so they
don't want to give him unfettered access to destroying the government.
Those are the folks who they should be looking to
ally up with, to align with, to determine what the
steps forward could be to introduce legislation to stop some
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of what's happening. The majority is razor thin in the House,
and it's razor thin in the Senate. They definitely don't
have anywhere near sixty votes. So there are a number
of things that can and should be done. I'm assuming
that on these retreats and conferences that are currently being
held that they're talking about these things.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I want to get into two. I was gonna say
Donald Trump, President Donald Musk elon Musk conflicts of interest. So,
according to the New York Times, Tesla has three hundred
and fifty two thousand, which isn't a lot in federal contracts,
but there are federal contracts. No less, SpaceX has fifteen
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point four billion dollars in contracts with nine different departments
and three different government agencies.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
These are all at the federal level, and.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Tesla and SpaceX, according to the New York Times, are
the subject of more than twenty investigations or reviews by
five different departments and six agencies in the federal government.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So that is significant.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Six figures in contracts for Tesla, billions of dollars in
contracts for SpaceX, the subject of more than twenty investigation
or reviews by five different departments and six agencies. One
of these that you probably are already guessing is the
Department of Treasury. So by election day, just so you
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all understand, by election day, according to New York Times,
Elon mus led companies were in several battles across agencies
and departments, including being fined. So that brings us back
to the Department of Government efficiency. That's for a minute,
to stop here at what happened with Treasury. So there
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are questions coming in about the Treasury department. What's going on,
How does it impact us? The Department of Treasury literally
is the entity that prints our money. It is literally
the entity that is charged with holding banks accountable to
ensure that our money is protected. Somebody asked about FDIC.
The Department of Treasury is responsible for more than one
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billion payments per year, totaling five trillion dollars. Elon Musk
has said to let him into the Department of Treasury
because he could trim more than a trillion dollars from
the federal deficit. The payments that the Department of Treasury
oversees include all types of sensitive information, including bank accounts
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and social Security numbers, as well as all of those payments,
so it is very, very important that we understand what
they have access to at this point. There are several
laws that Elon Musk's team could be violating. We went
through some of those relative to a special government employee
and their conflicts of interests, their financial disclosure requirements when
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they're supposed to wall themselves completely off. We know that
he is an officer of a company that has federal
government contracts, a founder of a company that has federal
government contracts, and he is now in there tinkering with
his competition's payments. It's just a bridge too far from me.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I want to also go to OPM, which has not
been discussed as much. What you should know is OPM
is discussed, so is USAID. By the way, you all,
i'm sure, have been seeing a lot of things about
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USAID in the news. USAID and OPM are talked about
in the Project twenty twenty five. There's one part on
page two seventy one where they're talked about in the
same paragraph. It is important for you to understand that
Elon Musk is not doing anything, as Donald Trump said
himself in a press conference, that hasn't already been authorized.
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Donald Trump made not necessarily be the one who authorized
it or one who authorized it. But let me tell
you who is the authors of Project twenty twenty five.
The Heritage Foundation, the same Heritage Foundation that gave Ronald
Reagan his blueprint, the same Heritage Foundation that gave George
hw and George W. Bush their blueprint. There's nothing new
under the sun, y'all. They have just renamed the thing
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and they've gotten a little more Rogan reckless. The reason
you see Republican senators and members of the House on
TV saying tough, it's gonna be alright, y'all, just don't
want to trim the fat because you like bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's not it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They want bureaucracy, but only if it results in payments
for their friends, and if they can be punitive and
stop payments for grants that look into climate change and
grants that go to HBCUs and opportunities like funding people's
social security because you know they've been trying to cut
that for a long time. This is what we end
up with. We talked about the impowerment clause last week
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just a little bit again. It is they're now saying
that it doesn't necessarily have to be empowerment. They are
just reviewing, and that review could be a long time,
which means that they're halting payments. All of that is problematic,
and it is by design in Project twenty twenty five.
So Office of Personnel Management, which is also referenced several
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times over again in Project twenty twenty five. What you
should know is that Musk associates, musk acolytes, including past
and present employees of his, have taken over OPM, which
is the Office of Personal Management. Literally, they have put
in sofa beds near the old director's office. They are
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demonstrating to them that you can't even get up here
to the fifth floor if you don't have a security clearance.
And we don't approve you. And while they're doing all
of that, they are locking out senior officials at OPM.
According to routers from Key Systems, Elon's team has gotten
into a system called the Enterprise Human Resources Integration. That
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system contains highly personal information for government personnel across agency,
across department. It includes information like your birth dates, social
security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades, length of service
of government workers, and any disciplinary action. All of that
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is in OPM files. That includes staffing information for members
of Congress. So again, when you think about the retribute
of nature of Elon Musk and Donald Trump, this is
a way to punish their enemies, going into treasury to
halt payments, going into the OPM files to disclose data
and information that doesn't belong to them. And moreover, there
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are certain things that the federal government has done to
keep our information safe from safe from foreign entities. They
are circumventing all of that, which also makes our information
vulnerable and susceptible to hacks by foreign government entities. I
want to go briefly into GSA. GSA is responsible for
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every lease of federal office buildings and according to the AP.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Just last week.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Last week, an email from Washington headquarters of GS was
sent and it instructed every regional manager to terminate leases
on roughly seventy five hundred federal offices nationally. That initiative
is being led by another Elon Musk employee. Her name
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is Nicole Hollander, and I believe she worked for X.
I didn't put that down, but that was another thing
to just be mindful of. They are doing this across
the board from Treasury OPM GSA.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We just talked about.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Office of Management and Budget, as you know, is responsible
for the federal funding freeze last week. They're doing this
at USAID USA jobs and so even if you ever
applied for a federal government job, your information is in there,
all susceptible to being shared.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Department of Education, we know that they're going in planning
to essentially gut the Department of Education. You all know
Project twenty twenty five and in most Republican talking points
for the throughout the years, they wanted to gut the
Department of Education SBA. They're going to do the same
thing at SBAS that they did with Treasury. Any if
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you have an SBA loan, if you have an SBA grant.
If you have an SBA special classification, all of that
information is subject to being shared now, so a lot
of folks are asking what will people do to fight back.
It is imperative that you reach out to your member
of Congress and say you might be overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed.
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I don't know where we go from here, but what
I do know is I elected you to fight, and
here are the expectations I have of you and sharing them,
sharing with them with their staff what you think they
should be doing. We are seeing that there are all
types of lawsuits being filed by unions who work with
federal government employees, by folks who are challenging thee the
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Trump administration's birthright citizenship position. There are all types of
lawsuits that are being filed around this Elon Musk having
unfettered access to governmental government employee data, government contracts, et cetera,
especially those of UH those employees and former employees of
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his who have not been fired file hire they should
be fired hired by the Feds to have any access
to this information, and how it makes us susceptible to attacks.
All of that is being challenged in the courts, but
there are things that members of Congress can and should do.
You can reach your member of Congress by calling to
zero two two two four three one two one. That
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is the Capitol Hill Operator. They can transfer you to
your uh, your member of Congress, to your senator, to
to be connected with them and to share what you
think should happen. All good ideas are all ideas right
now are good ideas. There are no bad ideas. We've
got to talk about how to fight, how to protect
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what we know is ours. Now. This democracy is fragile,
it is trash, it is frustrating. But I think that
we've seen very quickly within the last couple of weeks
that so much can change in a matter of moments,
that while it hangs in the balance, that there's something
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about that democracy that's worth protecting. So as we weighe
through Elon Musk's conflicts of interest, as we get frustrated
by the laws that are seemingly broken, some more apparent
than others, and the physical proximity to the president that
Elon Musk has, we know that he is still shooting
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himself in the proverbial foot. So, while the tariffs are
right at Tesla's door, with Forbes reporting a dippinent stock.
It costs Elon Musk nearly twelve billion dollars to be
closely associated with this president and to be supporting policies
that may actually cause him economic harm. So this is
a reminder to him that nobody's safe in a Trump universe.
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And even if you find yourself doing his bidding, ask
Michael Cohen about how that goes. Ask Steve Bannon about
how that goes. So President Elon Musk for now, but
it'll be President Stephen Miller tomorrow and we'll talk about
that next week. Before I go, I'm gonna see if
there are any other questions. It doesn't appear that there
are any. I'm thirty minutes in. It's supposed to be
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a fifteen minute podcast, and so I just will say
until next time.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh no, there are more questions. Should Doge exist? Hell no?
Does the doge? Only?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Does the Doge make suggestions only for which federal office
they want to cut funding for? But who makes the
final decision? Yes, Donald Trump is ultimately the final arbiter.
But it sounds like he is refering to Elon Musk.
Can Elon and his team be banned from this info
and this new department by law. Yeah, the law needs
to be passed, and sadly it would need to be
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signed into law by Donald Trump unless there was a
veto proof majority, and I think that would be really
challenging right now. And then there's a last question. The
gentleman that blocked Elon from accessing the system then resigned.
Has anyone talked to him? I believe you're talking about
the gentleman from the Department of Treasury. I don't know
if anybody's talked to him, and he may have resigned
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just for moral reasons. Was he paid off? I don't know,
but I will tell you who is paid off. A
good number of federal government employees to the tune of
twenty thousand, which makes up about one percent of the
overall federal government staffing, took out. Took the payouts, which
means that taking a payout, getting paid even through November
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of this year, you are no longer eligible for a
federal pension. There. I'm sure we'll be a court battle
around that as well. Don't take the payout, hold your ground,
stay in your ground, make sure that you fight until
the end. Keep sharing this information. Congressoman Maxine waters put
up on the Financial Services Committee page on the ranking
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member sides. Of course she's a ranking member. A whistleblower
sheet that you can fill out form you can fill out.
Please make sure you are sharing information with members of
Congress who care, who will fight for you. That is imperative. Again,
call your members two zero two two two four three
one two one, and until next time, Welcome home, y'all.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, everybody. I am happy to be here with you
all today. This is my second solo pod with Native
Lampod and as we say normally, with my co hosts
who aren't with me of course, because it's a solo pod,
Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum shout out to tiff is
her birthday week. Welcome home, y'all. So today we are
getting back into it. Last week, as you all know,
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we covered the federal funding freeze, and this week I
want to talk about President Elon Musk. There are gonna
be a couple of these in this series. I think
next we're going to talk about Steven Miller, who is
the Deputy chief of Staff for Policy at the White House.
But today I think it's really really important for us
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to dive into the role that Elon Musk is playing
in the federal government, the fact that it is very
much outside, perhaps illegal, and he is waiting in the water,
maybe drowning in the water, with conflicts of interest. So
we're going to get into that, I think first and
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foremost what I really want to talk about. Actually, before
I get into anything, let me offer this disclaimer, because
what we know about this White House and the Trump
administration is they are highly litigious. So to cover my
home behind iHeart and reason choice media, let me say this.
I am acknowledging that they are very litigious. That what
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I'm going to talk about today is going to infuriate
some associated with the federal government. Whether they are contractors,
Elon Musk acolytes, Trump acolytes, fans, MAGA protesters, or anything else,
the fact that remains that they are litigious. So I
want you to ensure I want to ensure that you
know the sources. I will cite the sources as much
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as I can. I will do my best to say
what is alleged. I will let you know what is
a theory and what is my inner holy ghost, the
black woman's discernment, and let you know that it is just.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That a theory.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And then I will also be sure as always to
let you know what is a fact, because facts matter
in a day and age where they could not convince
us more that they do not.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They matter.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And I will also make sure that I am diligent
about this because.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I think that these are Donald Trump's puppet masters.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Starting of course, with Elon Musk, I said, I think
that means it's a theory. So one of the things
that we will also continue to go back to is
Project twenty twenty five. In Project twenty twenty five, efficiency
or inefficiency is mentioned at least sixty times in that document.
So it's no wonder that the Trump administration is working
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diligently to come up with something that makes government more efficient.
In fact, they created an agency, because you know, Republicans
are apparently about big government these days, they added a
new agency. That agency is called the Department of Government Efficiency,
because the best way to make government more efficient is
to add another agency. I'm just kidding if you can't tell.
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So the other thing that I think we should talk
about is who Donald Trump and Elon were, where their
relationship originated, and how we got to this very treacherous place.
So on July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Elon Musk went
to the platform that he purchased formally known as Twitter
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to endorse Donald Trump. Since then, the evil brother to
True Social has seemingly suppressed the content of its most
progressive users, and has amplified content that is relate to,
related to and bolsters the once banned President Donald Trump.
So let's talk briefly about who Elon Musk is. So
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he is a South African born entrepreneur. He is believed
to be the richest man in the world, with a
reported net worth of more than four hundred and ten
billion dollars. One hundred and fifty billion of that four
hundred and ten billion has been garnered since the twenty
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twenty four election. You heard me right, So he got
a whole additional one hundred and fifty billion dollars since
the election. I think that is worth noting. Next, this
former h one B visa holder. As I said, he
is the South African born richest man in the world.
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Elon Musk got rich from building companies like PayPal and
then going on to invest in companies like Tesla, which
most of us know him from.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And SpaceX.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This election cycle, he establish a pack called America Pack
for those of you who don't know, a pack stands
for political Action committee. So he founded America Political Action
Committee and according to FBC filing, spent seventy two million
dollars to support the election of Donald J.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
T Donald J.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Trump so again July endorsement established his America Pack spends
seventy two million dollars of his own money to help
get Donald Trump elected. I would say a theory is
he did a little bit more than that. You all
know my theory if you watch the podcast. If you
don't know my theory, watch the podcast. It is a theory.
It is not confirmed, but I believe that the SpaceX
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Satellite Division might have had something to do with this
electoral victory.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So there's that now.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I want to also say that that it is that. Well,
I'm just going back to the facts. Let me go
back to the facts. Don't ever bouy my theories for now.
So one of Trump's earliest advisors, Steve Bannon, who you
are may remember. His name may ring a bell because
he was held in contempt of Congress for not cooperating
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with Congress. He said recently that Elon Musk's sole objective is.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
To become a trillionaire.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
There is apparently trouble in paradise because Steve Bannon and
Elon must don't rock with each other. Steve Bannon was
fired in the last Trump administration, but he is still
a diehard Maga. So the Magas are scrapping. So he
said that his only goal is to become a trillionaire.
He says that white South Africans are the most racist
on the planet. It's funny to watch the pot calling
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the kettle black, or maybe to watch the pot calling
the kettle white, or to say that the sheet and
the wall match. I don't know, but I just think
it's worth noting. So they're fighting, there's trouble in paradise.
He said that he was going to see to it
by inauguration that Elon Musk did not have the unfettered
access that surprise he has. So Steve Bannon, you fail,
(06:57):
Try again, for try again now. I want to just
get into the frail a little bit around what's happening
in South Africa. You would will have just noted that
most recently, Donald Trump said that he was going to
cut off all funding the South Africa. I keep emphasizing
the South African born Elon Musk for a reason.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Elon Musk might have something to do with this policy.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So South Africa just announced a land expropriation law, and
that law passed last month. It is designed to redress
the apartheid era confiscation of land owned by black people,
and Donald Trump, in response to this law passing in
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South Africa, made this statement on true social South Africa
is confiscating land and treating certain classes of people very badly.
A massive, a massive human rights violation at a minimum
is happening for all to see. The United States won't
stand for it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
We will act. Also note this part.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Also, I will be cutting off all future spending, all
future funding. I'm sorry about that, all future funding to
South Africa until a full investigation of this situation has
been completed. Now, what is fascinating about this is Donald Trump,
Mister America first himself is real focused on where he's
(08:28):
going to, you know, lay down the law on a tariff.
He drew that back, he pulled that back, and now
he's talking about funding the South Africa. And South Africa
only receives foreign aid from US to the tune of
four hundred million dollars annually and it's mostly for health programs,
primarily focused around HIV AID support. So it's fascinating that
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he's tied this land expropriation law that is designed to
give people back the land that they once had and
he's saying, we're not going to do this. Now what
you should also know and then I'm gonna get back
to America, roll with me to South Africa a little
bit longer. Elon Mus's hometown homeland home country. Land ownership
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has been a very contentious issue in South Africa. This is,
according to BBC, for more than a century. In nineteen thirteen,
British colonies authorized British colonial authorities pass legislation that restricted
the property rights of the country's black majority. Again, the
law that was just passed is designed to give back
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black folks the land that they once had. The Native's
Land Act left the vast majority of the land under
the control of the white minority and set the foundation
for the forced removal of black people to poor homelands,
homelands and townships. And this is more than three decades ago,
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until the end of apartheid. Now, the other thing that
I think is worth noting is that Elon mu Us
had something to say and it sounded very similar to
what Donald Trump said around returning the land.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And it being a racist policy.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So the Washington Post said that South Africa's government has
framed land reform as a moral social and economic imperative.
I think many of us would agree with that given
our own experiences in this country because of the systemic
dispossession of black South Africans under apartheid. The country did
a land audit in twenty seventeen, and that land audit
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says that the white population in South Africa owned seventy
two percent of individually owned farms and agricultural holdings. Mixed
race citizens also known as coloreds in South Africa owned
fifteen percent, Indians owned five percent, In Africans owned four percent. Now,
what you need to know is, according to the twenty
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twenty two census in South Africa, white folks made up
seven point three percent of the population, but again owned
seventy two percent of the farms and agricultural lands. So
when Elon Musk says, why do you guys have openly
racist ownership laws, he's not looking at the data and
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he's not looking at the impact, not even the intention
of the law. We talked several times now about what
the intention of that law is. But Elon Musk is
focusing on the fact that white South Africans like him
are going to perhaps get land snatched, that they're not
even occupying. By the way, it is unoccupied land, unclaimed
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land that they are returning back to black citizens.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And that is what is bizarre to me.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But what is very clear to me is you know,
for Elon Musk, if it don't make dollars, it don't
make sense. He says, well, it's been noted that Musk's
Starlink satellite internet service was denied and this is a
company that is a subsidiary of SpaceX. It was denied
a license in South Africa because it doesn't meet affirmative
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action criteria.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
All of this story to say to you.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
That if Elon Musk doesn't have a direct financial opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Or a potential, he don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So the reason that Elon Musk is tweeting about South
Africa and its racist laws ownership laws is really because
this is a theory, by the way, is really because
Elon Musk is frustrated by the fact that his company,
Starlink Satellite was denied a license in South Africa. So
now he's questioning everything they do to create equitable outcomes
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for people who have suffered under an apartheid system and
still haven't seen equity, equality and justice. If we're honest.
So he has Donald Trump in the fray around the
expropriation law, but really he wants to upset what's going
on in South Africa because he didn't get a contract
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which brings us to the United States. So what we
also know is that Elon Musk has marched his white
man privilege into the White House, into the White House
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complex at that with office space in his role as
the Department of Government Efficiency lead, and Donald Trump has
named him a special government employee. There is a big well, actually,
there are several big issues with Elon Musk being named
a special government employee, especially because in some ways it
appears so again this is a theory, it appears that
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Donald Trump and his administration don't understand that conflict of
interest and ethics still apply to special government employees. So
I want to get into that a little bit because
I think it's important to understand. One, Elon must South
African descent, since they can't stand immigrant so much. It
depends apparently white immigrants are in the clear, but he's
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a South African immigrant who now has unfettered access to
the federal government. Anybody that has created an obstacle for
him economically he's going after we saw him do that
most recently with the South African president, and he's gotten
Donald Trump in the frey there.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But furthermore, furthermore.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
We need to understand what he plans to do with
the Department of Government efficiency and how it will benefit
President Elon Musk. So I got a question, Lolo, you
just sent me from someone who said, who is leading
the investigation? What investigation are y'all talking about? I've been
talking for a long time. Just run that thing back
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for me.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So, now let's go into Elon musk potential bias as
a special government employee, the conflicts of interests that are there,
as well as the government business he has, and why
this might create a much larger issue. So special government
employees are defined in eighteen USC. Section two oho two,
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that is, Title eighteen of the United States Code, Section
two zero two.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What can we do that does not include the Supreme Court?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Okay, these questions are I'm gonna keep I'm gonna get
through my monologue and then I'll go back to these questions.
But a special government employee means that the person's work
does not normally exceed one hundred and thirty days annually.
We know there's three hundred and sixty five days in
a year. One hundred and thirty days may not It
may be no problem. Elon muss and his friends may
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be no problem. They sleeping in government buildings, we'll get
into that later.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
May not be a problem.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But there are some other problems. So special government employees
do have rules that apply to them. Donald Trump seemed
to try to skirt by this issue in a press
conference yesterday when he said, you know, it doesn't matter.
Elon Musk is a special government employee who also isn't
getting paid, So we'll call them a special government volunteer.
Maybe they intend to introduce a new category of employee
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where none of the conflict of interests and ethics rules
apply to them, or for now they do.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
While he doesn't have to comply with every ethics rule
and conflict of interest rule that it normally applies to
a full time government employee, appointed position, et cetera, special
government employees do have rules, and especially around financial disclosures, ethics,
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and misuse of position. So the in the misuse of
position part of the law, it says you cannot use
public office for their own private gain or private gains
of friends. Okay, So remember that eighteen USC. Two eight
A says it prohibits you from participating personally and substantially
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in any particular matter that affects your finance interests as
well as the financial interests of your spouse, minor child,
general partner, an organization in which you serve as an officer, director, trustee,
general partner, or employee, or an organization with which you
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are negotiating or with which you have an arrangement for
perspective employment. So we are going to shortly get into
the many places where Elon Musk's companies have government contracts
and why it is a problem that he accessed all
of the payment systems for the Department of Treasury, along
with several others. So I don't know if Donald Trump
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and Elon Musk will get rid of FDIC. Congress can
introduce legislation to stop them. And I'm just stopping here
because there are more questions that are coming in and
I think that what is most important is for the
Democratic minority in the Senate and the House to find
who their potential are allies are on the other side
of the out and the Senate, in the House that
are in districts where their majorities are thin. Maybe they
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were formerly blue districts. Maybe they are districts where they're Republicans,
but they're not really Trumpers like that, and so they
don't want to give him unfettered access to destroying the government.
Those are the folks who they should be looking to
ally up with, to align with, to determine what the
steps forward could be to introduce legislation to stop some
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of what's happening. The majority is razor thin in the House,
and it's razor thin in the Senate. They definitely don't
have anywhere near sixty votes. So there are a number
of things that can and should be done. I'm assuming
that on these retreats and conferences that are currently being
held that they're talking about these things.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I want to get into two. I was gonna say
Donald Trump, President Donald Musk elon Musk conflicts of interest. So,
according to the New York Times, Tesla has three hundred
and fifty two thousand, which isn't a lot in federal contracts,
but there are federal contracts. No less, SpaceX has fifteen
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point four billion dollars in contracts with nine different departments
and three different government agencies.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
These are all at the federal level, and.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Tesla and SpaceX, according to the New York Times, are
the subject of more than twenty investigations or reviews by
five different departments and six agencies in the federal government.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So that is significant.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Six figures in contracts for Tesla, billions of dollars in
contracts for SpaceX, the subject of more than twenty investigation
or reviews by five different departments and six agencies. One
of these that you probably are already guessing is the
Department of Treasury. So by election day, just so you
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all understand, by election day, according to New York Times,
Elon mus led companies were in several battles across agencies
and departments, including being fined. So that brings us back
to the Department of Government efficiency. That's for a minute,
to stop here at what happened with Treasury. So there
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are questions coming in about the Treasury department. What's going on,
How does it impact us? The Department of Treasury literally
is the entity that prints our money. It is literally
the entity that is charged with holding banks accountable to
ensure that our money is protected. Somebody asked about FDIC.
The Department of Treasury is responsible for more than one
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billion payments per year, totaling five trillion dollars. Elon Musk
has said to let him into the Department of Treasury
because he could trim more than a trillion dollars from
the federal deficit. The payments that the Department of Treasury
oversees include all types of sensitive information, including bank accounts
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and social Security numbers, as well as all of those payments,
so it is very, very important that we understand what
they have access to at this point. There are several
laws that Elon Musk's team could be violating. We went
through some of those relative to a special government employee
and their conflicts of interests, their financial disclosure requirements when
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they're supposed to wall themselves completely off. We know that
he is an officer of a company that has federal
government contracts, a founder of a company that has federal
government contracts, and he is now in there tinkering with
his competition's payments. It's just a bridge too far from me.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I want to also go to OPM, which has not
been discussed as much. What you should know is OPM
is discussed, so is USAID. By the way, you all,
i'm sure, have been seeing a lot of things about
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USAID in the news. USAID and OPM are talked about
in the Project twenty twenty five. There's one part on
page two seventy one where they're talked about in the
same paragraph. It is important for you to understand that
Elon Musk is not doing anything, as Donald Trump said
himself in a press conference, that hasn't already been authorized.
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Donald Trump made not necessarily be the one who authorized
it or one who authorized it. But let me tell
you who is the authors of Project twenty twenty five.
The Heritage Foundation, the same Heritage Foundation that gave Ronald
Reagan his blueprint, the same Heritage Foundation that gave George
hw and George W. Bush their blueprint. There's nothing new
under the sun, y'all. They have just renamed the thing
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and they've gotten a little more Rogan reckless. The reason
you see Republican senators and members of the House on
TV saying tough, it's gonna be alright, y'all, just don't
want to trim the fat because you like bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's not it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They want bureaucracy, but only if it results in payments
for their friends, and if they can be punitive and
stop payments for grants that look into climate change and
grants that go to HBCUs and opportunities like funding people's
social security because you know they've been trying to cut
that for a long time. This is what we end
up with. We talked about the impowerment clause last week
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just a little bit again. It is they're now saying
that it doesn't necessarily have to be empowerment. They are
just reviewing, and that review could be a long time,
which means that they're halting payments. All of that is problematic,
and it is by design in Project twenty twenty five.
So Office of Personnel Management, which is also referenced several
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times over again in Project twenty twenty five. What you
should know is that Musk associates, musk acolytes, including past
and present employees of his, have taken over OPM, which
is the Office of Personal Management. Literally, they have put
in sofa beds near the old director's office. They are
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demonstrating to them that you can't even get up here
to the fifth floor if you don't have a security clearance.
And we don't approve you. And while they're doing all
of that, they are locking out senior officials at OPM.
According to routers from Key Systems, Elon's team has gotten
into a system called the Enterprise Human Resources Integration. That
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system contains highly personal information for government personnel across agency,
across department. It includes information like your birth dates, social
security numbers, appraisals, home addresses, pay grades, length of service
of government workers, and any disciplinary action. All of that
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is in OPM files. That includes staffing information for members
of Congress. So again, when you think about the retribute
of nature of Elon Musk and Donald Trump, this is
a way to punish their enemies, going into treasury to
halt payments, going into the OPM files to disclose data
and information that doesn't belong to them. And moreover, there
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are certain things that the federal government has done to
keep our information safe from safe from foreign entities. They
are circumventing all of that, which also makes our information
vulnerable and susceptible to hacks by foreign government entities. I
want to go briefly into GSA. GSA is responsible for
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every lease of federal office buildings and according to the AP.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Just last week.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Last week, an email from Washington headquarters of GS was
sent and it instructed every regional manager to terminate leases
on roughly seventy five hundred federal offices nationally. That initiative
is being led by another Elon Musk employee. Her name
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is Nicole Hollander, and I believe she worked for X.
I didn't put that down, but that was another thing
to just be mindful of. They are doing this across
the board from Treasury OPM GSA.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
We just talked about.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Office of Management and Budget, as you know, is responsible
for the federal funding freeze last week. They're doing this
at USAID USA jobs and so even if you ever
applied for a federal government job, your information is in there,
all susceptible to being shared.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Department of Education, we know that they're going in planning
to essentially gut the Department of Education. You all know
Project twenty twenty five and in most Republican talking points
for the throughout the years, they wanted to gut the
Department of Education SBA. They're going to do the same
thing at SBAS that they did with Treasury. Any if
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you have an SBA loan, if you have an SBA grant.
If you have an SBA special classification, all of that
information is subject to being shared now, so a lot
of folks are asking what will people do to fight back.
It is imperative that you reach out to your member
of Congress and say you might be overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed.
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I don't know where we go from here, but what
I do know is I elected you to fight, and
here are the expectations I have of you and sharing them,
sharing with them with their staff what you think they
should be doing. We are seeing that there are all
types of lawsuits being filed by unions who work with
federal government employees, by folks who are challenging thee the
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Trump administration's birthright citizenship position. There are all types of
lawsuits that are being filed around this Elon Musk having
unfettered access to governmental government employee data, government contracts, et cetera,
especially those of UH those employees and former employees of
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his who have not been fired file hire they should
be fired hired by the Feds to have any access
to this information, and how it makes us susceptible to attacks.
All of that is being challenged in the courts, but
there are things that members of Congress can and should do.
You can reach your member of Congress by calling to
zero two two two four three one two one. That
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is the Capitol Hill Operator. They can transfer you to
your uh, your member of Congress, to your senator, to
to be connected with them and to share what you
think should happen. All good ideas are all ideas right
now are good ideas. There are no bad ideas. We've
got to talk about how to fight, how to protect
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what we know is ours. Now. This democracy is fragile,
it is trash, it is frustrating. But I think that
we've seen very quickly within the last couple of weeks
that so much can change in a matter of moments,
that while it hangs in the balance, that there's something
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about that democracy that's worth protecting. So as we weighe
through Elon Musk's conflicts of interest, as we get frustrated
by the laws that are seemingly broken, some more apparent
than others, and the physical proximity to the president that
Elon Musk has, we know that he is still shooting
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himself in the proverbial foot. So, while the tariffs are
right at Tesla's door, with Forbes reporting a dippinent stock.
It costs Elon Musk nearly twelve billion dollars to be
closely associated with this president and to be supporting policies
that may actually cause him economic harm. So this is
a reminder to him that nobody's safe in a Trump universe.
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And even if you find yourself doing his bidding, ask
Michael Cohen about how that goes. Ask Steve Bannon about
how that goes. So President Elon Musk for now, but
it'll be President Stephen Miller tomorrow and we'll talk about
that next week. Before I go, I'm gonna see if
there are any other questions. It doesn't appear that there
are any. I'm thirty minutes in. It's supposed to be
(30:31):
a fifteen minute podcast, and so I just will say
until next time.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh no, there are more questions. Should Doge exist? Hell no?
Does the doge? Only?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Does the Doge make suggestions only for which federal office
they want to cut funding for? But who makes the
final decision? Yes, Donald Trump is ultimately the final arbiter.
But it sounds like he is refering to Elon Musk.
Can Elon and his team be banned from this info
and this new department by law. Yeah, the law needs
to be passed, and sadly it would need to be
(31:09):
signed into law by Donald Trump unless there was a
veto proof majority, and I think that would be really
challenging right now. And then there's a last question. The
gentleman that blocked Elon from accessing the system then resigned.
Has anyone talked to him? I believe you're talking about
the gentleman from the Department of Treasury. I don't know
if anybody's talked to him, and he may have resigned
(31:32):
just for moral reasons. Was he paid off? I don't know,
but I will tell you who is paid off. A
good number of federal government employees to the tune of
twenty thousand, which makes up about one percent of the
overall federal government staffing, took out. Took the payouts, which
means that taking a payout, getting paid even through November
(31:55):
of this year, you are no longer eligible for a
federal pension. There. I'm sure we'll be a court battle
around that as well. Don't take the payout, hold your ground,
stay in your ground, make sure that you fight until
the end. Keep sharing this information. Congressoman Maxine waters put
up on the Financial Services Committee page on the ranking
(32:17):
member sides. Of course she's a ranking member. A whistleblower
sheet that you can fill out form you can fill out.
Please make sure you are sharing information with members of
Congress who care, who will fight for you. That is imperative. Again,
call your members two zero two two two four three
one two one, and until next time, Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
This is long.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I didn't even get through all my notes, but there's
a lot going on. Look up SBA, look up USA job,
look at Department of Education, Treasury. It's all happening at
the same damn time. If you got friends that work on,
work there. Check out your strong friends and know this
will always be a safe space for us.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
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