December 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Angela Rye is joined by Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett (TX 30) for a frank convo about the criticism regarding her campaign for Senate.
Rep. Crockett sees a clear path to victory by studying recent history, Beto O’Rourkes run for a Texas Senate seat in 2018. We’ll dive into the numbers and get a behind-the-scenes look at Crockett’s conversations with the other Democrats in the race, like Colin Allred, who dropped out following Crockett’s announcement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome, Welcome home, everybody in Happy Holidays. This is Native lamppod.
It's the Solo pod edition. I'm Angela Rye, your host
for today, and I am just thrilled to be in
the midst of the holiday season. Now, before I get
started today, y'all, I got a quick complaint. I went
to my favorite place in Seattle, Pipe Place Market. I
went to get the seafood for the gumbo, because you
(00:29):
know we're doing gumbo for Christmas, y'all. Is a two
thousand dollars shopping trip. And I'm telling you because I
didn't get a bag, I didn't get shoes. I spent
a bag on some seafood. And I want to tell y'
all this because I think it's very important. At some point,
I'm gonna have somebody from Purefish on here to talk
to you, because I don't think that everyone realizes, especially
(00:51):
the climate deniers among us, just how much climate change
is impacting every dog gone thing. And when I talk
about every dog one thing, I'm talking about everything, including
your seafood. I learned today that Alaskan king crab, Alaskan
King crab number one, the price has doubled five pound.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It has doubled.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The reason why the price has doubled by the pound
is because the water is heating and it is literally
cooking Alaskan king crab, baby, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So there is less. It is the survival of the
fittest in the water. And I don't want to keep
trying it. So do me a favorite this holiday season.
All I want for Christmas, I would say you, But
what I want for Christmas is for you to recycle,
for you to compost, for you to be mindful of
the waste that you are engaging in. Please feed your families, y'all.
But man, these seafood prices are too high. I'm gonna
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start a party like that man, you had the rent
as too damn high party. Mine is about to be
the seafood is two damn high party. And I gotta
tell you, we gotta do something about climate change. So please,
when you next time you go to the restaurant, tap
the Republican next to you and let them know that
climate change is real.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And theyre about to see it in their seafood on
that plate.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Now, with that out the way, I have such an
important guest joining us today.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
She has become a dear, dear sister friend to me.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
She is a fighter that I look to for courage
in this time to let me know that we're going
to be all right. All Kendrick Lamar and she is
just such a champion for the people.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You all have said it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Even folks who don't like politics are paying attention to
the words and the actions of this incredible woman.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Her name is Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
She is a congresswoman representing the Dallas for Worth area
in Texas, and she's also running for the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Jessey Jazz is in the building.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hangerswiman, Jazz and Crockett.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Wow? How are you girl?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm good besides these seafood prices.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I hear you, I hear you loud and cleary. You're
talking about climate change. I'm like, we don't have climate change.
According to my colleagues, at least, they say it's a hoax.
They say it's not real, and therefore we have also
defund all research as it relates to science in all ways,
not just as relates to climate and studying it him
trying to figure out how it is that we can
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cool this planet down being smarter in our policies. But
they deny it in that way and others. I'll just
say that one.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They deny a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And I want to just deepen into that just for
a moment, because recently you decided to throw your hat
in the ring for the United States Senate. There are people,
there are elders, some of our elders, who said it's
too soon, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Read some literature on the topic.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Are you sure? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I had went down hundred three thousand real quick.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But I got to say, like, for people who are like,
it's too soon, what do you say to that? Why now? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it's hard to define what too soon looks like
when you're talking to someone like me, because for some
people the time would never arrive, especially as a black
woman in this country. I mean, we know that, yes,
Texas has never done it. We know that it's only
been done a handful of I mean, just think about
how recent our history is. I mean, the very first
black woman that ever swear into the US Senate is
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still alive, right, We're not talking about like back in
and back in the day history. We know that only
the second black woman to swear into the US Senate
was our beloved Vice President Kamala Harris, and we know
that we ended up having our third be appointed to
the Senate. And then we know that we now, for
the first time in the history of the United States,
we have two that are serving at the same time.
So we've only had five black women. But I think
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that this is bigger than race or sex. While there
may be history that is taking place, I've never done
anything seeking history. I've done things seeking justice, and I've
done things seeking change. And so part of me was
starting to feel like, what really is my purpose in
the House in this moment? Okay, if times were normal,
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be completely different, I would most likely be running for
re elections to the House. Most likely would win reelection
with little to no problems. I must say that I
have a great poor with my district and that they
seemingly would have been very happy to have me return
to the district. But I can file a million bills
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in the House, and you know what, we may even
take the House. In fact, that's one of the things
that is scaring this current administration, which is why they're
going through and they're trying to cheat and take as
many seats as they can. But I think, no matter
what happens, I think we win the House because the
political environment is just that bad. But what happens when
you win the House and you still don't have the
numbers in the Senate nothing. The reason that people get
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frustrated with Democrats as a whole, and they'd be like, well,
you promise me this, you promise me repro access, you
promised me that you would work on voting rice, you
promise me this, you promise me that, and then you
go and file the bills, they make it out of
the House, and then nothing happens in the Senate. And
so for me, I was like, if I'm really just
here to kind of be about quote unquote myself, Okay,
(05:55):
I guess, but honestly, I can do a lot more
on the outside. I mean, Angela, you have been, in
effect to voice from the outside. There are things that
you do on the outside that definitely permeate to the
inside that people never see. And then you also do
things that people absolutely see on the outside, like you
are very effective, but like I can be effective, make
more money and have less death threats. I'm just saying, right,
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But I signed up for this because I knew that
the pathway to real freedom for some of us was
through legislation, and I needed to be at the table.
But if I'm just at the table and I'm just
being a voice and I'm not able to actually get
that other part done, then what is the point. So ultimately,
there's a couple of things that are different about this
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current point in time. Number One, this is the first
time since the nineties. Remind you, the last Democratic governor
we had was a woman, and yes it was the
second woman. Texas has had two women elected. The first
one was elected in the nineteen thirties and the other
one was an Riches in the nineteen nineties. It's the
first time since the nineteen nineties that we have candidates
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that are in all seats. They are running for all
the US House seats, they are running for all the
state House and state Senate seats. That matters because now
instead of fifty percent of those seats going unfilleded, we
have candidates that are going to consistently be talking to
voters all throughout Texas. That's number one. Number two, this
is the first time that I can recall that the
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Republicans are absolutely headed to a runoff, which means that
they are going to constantly beat up on each other
for a longer amount of time than what will take
place on our side, giving us an advantage. That's more
money that they're spending, and that's also them tearing each
other apart for a longer amount of time. Number Three,
We've always had amazing candidates, great resumes. You can look
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at their resumes and you can say, oh, man, it's
a perfect person on paper. Right. And one of the
people that I think about is Beto or Work because
he's the one that came the closest and his election
most closely aligned with the current election that we're about
to go into because it was in the midterm of
a Trump presidency. Betso A Rourke. When he got into
(08:02):
the race, no one knew who Betto was. No one
had ever heard of them, and so these races are
very expensive. They cost about one hundred million dollars. But
what we do is we spend almost one hundred million
dollars just for somebody to learn their names. We walk
in with an advantage. We've never walked in with a
candidate who had asked hig a name ID, and I
look at races and I say, first step is name
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I D's second step is actually understanding that person's brand.
Third step is actually making them believe that you can
trust this candidate to actually do better for you and
better for your life. In the fourth base is getting
them to the polls. Well, we're already at third base.
So having the high name I D allowed me to
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do an unconventional launch video. Having high name I D
allows me to get people that are even beyond Texas
and get them involved. And finally, this state is a
majority minority state. Sixty one percent of the state is
people of color. But when we look at voter turnout,
we are only getting a little bit more than fifty
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percent of our voters that are already registered to turn out.
And when we look at who's not coming out, they're
black and brown. Now, most early polling showed that I
was doing best with black and brown folk. When we
looked at Beto's numbers, he had the strongest numbers amongst
black and brown people, and that's what got him closer.
So we look at it like, hey, we're starting off
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with a bit of a lead. And frankly, right now,
there are so many people that just don't trust politicians
and just think that people are out there telling them
what they want to hear. I'm going to get the
same check. My check don't change, my responsibility changes, and
the targets on my back change. But if I say
that I'm doing this because I actually want to help people,
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then why would I not go out when the numbers
reveal that I have the ability to expand the electric
and not only do this for Texas, but to do
this for the So you know, they're gonna keep having
my name in a mouth, whether they're Democrats or Republicans
because we know what the numbers are, because they can
theorize all they want to. But the reality is that
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they would actually drop the numbers if they were like,
oh no, she has no chance. They would just put
them out there. But we know that that's not the case.
And I'll be perfectly honest and tell you I'm not
putting out my numbers because I don't want Republicans to
raise off my numbers. I don't want them saying, oh no,
send us more money. Jasmine's in the position she's in.
I'm not gonna say the position, but Jasmin's in the
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position she's in. Nobody is dropping numbers for a reason.
If they had numbers that showed that I was not competitive,
then frankly, they wouldn't be talking about me because I
would be irrelevant, And second of all, they would just
put the numbers out.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I want to ask you too, because I think this
is so important. Before you were a member of Congress,
you were a state rep. Before you were a state Rep,
you were a civil rights attorney, a public defender. You
like have dedicated your life in so many ways to
public service and to being a conscience. We talk about
the Congressional black hawkas being the conscience of the Congress,
but there are consciences in our communities, of the.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Culture, etc.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I want to know how much time you spent talking
to other people who haven't just run statewide in Texas,
but have run state wide in other places, and what
best practices you've kind of called from them. Is there
a kitchen cabinet to help to make sure that your
lot is different? Like, we know that the odds are
against you in these states, especially if we don't mobilize
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our voters, and as the country continues to make it
more difficult for people to vote one and two to
feel seen and heard even represented, Like, yeah, it's gonna
be hard to get people out. So what are the
kinds of conversations you're having and who are you talking
to about what it's like to run statewide.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, So it's funny that you mentioned that because I
literally text Jamie Harrison probably about twenty minutes ago Jay
about some things. And for sure I've probably spent more
time talking to Stacy Abrams than anyone and there's a
lot of reasons for that. Obviously, there are similarities in
our background. Stacy also came from the state legislature. She
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was obviously a minority leader. I was not. Stacey then
went on to work on statewide kind of races and
building out infrastructure. So, you know, I will say this,
I appreciate those that have come before me in all ways,
not just those that are more contemporary, but even those
that I never had a chance to meet, because my
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goal will always be to honor their legacy and their
sacrifices by making sure that I am a building block
for somebody coming behind me. So with Stacy Abrams. We've
had conversations about what it looked like to organize, and
she's given me tips on what I need to do.
I want to lay it all out for everybody else,
but she's given me tips on how to make sure
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that we are maximizing our touches in the state. Obviously
it wasn't Stacy alone. You've got Latasha who always is
available and answer the call at Black Voters Matter, but
also just kind of those other organizations that we're working together.
My first D nine ish H endorsement has come from
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the omega's C four and so the D nine part
of things as well. They are getting a lot more
involved from a C four standpoint, not a C three standpoint.
So I'm engaging in conversations about organizing natural kind of
spaces of organization, whether it's churches or whether it's D
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nine organization, so that again we're more so building instead
of kind of reinventing. In addition to that, you know,
I have talked to well, I'm just I've talked to
the vice president. I mean, I wasn't gonna make the
decision without having some real conversations with the vice president,
and obviously she didn't just run in one state. She's
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running a lot of states, right And to this day
she still remains a mentor and a friend and an
auntie of sorts, even though I'm technically auntie's status.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Now that hurts when that happens, When that change comes,
jazz is called.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I know. But you know, like talking to the Vice president,
it is it's tough because she looks at me like
I am family, right, So you know, there's been all
the conversations. But also you know, talking to some of
the elected US senators as well about this, and and
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I won't out them until they come out per se
in their official support capacities. But there is one member
who was like, I think you can do it, like
I have no doubts, And that particular member said, my
biggest concern is your safety. If you tell me that
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you are going to take all the precautions that you
need to take, then go for it. But I don't
want you to become a sacrificial lamb. And so like
again like very real love. And I can tell you
that the Vice President in a very similar vein is
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like the country needs you. I'm gonna need you to
make sure that you're like as safe as possible. And
you and I have talked before about me going and
getting fitted for a vest and all that kind of stuff,
and people don't understand how long it takes to get them.
But literally I got a notification today because I said
I can't go through this campaign and I have my vest. Yeah,
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and it is a sad reality. But I think about
the courage that had to exist for those that came
before me. I mean, you know, I keep Shirley behind me.
Us surely is always around somewhere, right, I have no
idea what she went through. Yeah, being the first of
the first, right, I can tell you that nothing makes
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me be naive about this and believe that it was
just all, you know, peachy for her. And as I
was doing a recording yesterday, I was talking about a
ten year old girl who knows who I am when
I went to her church, and that was so powerful
to me knowing that this baby, like when I was
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her age, I couldn't tell you who elected officials were,
but that she knows who I am, that she knows
that I stand up for myself, that she's looking to me.
I just think that I could not afford in this time,
where everybody is saying what has happened to our country?
To just do what was comfortable or expedient, which would
have been going back to the house, I could have
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done it, Yeah, but we deserve better.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You did you have to call Colin and ask him
to drop out? Did you Colin Alredd It's who I'm
talking about? Or did he decide? Did he make that
decision on his own without any conversations.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So I had very much publicly stated that I would
call both of the people in the race once I
got the results of my polling, which is a little
different than traditional. We did traditional stuff, but then we
had a piece that was about expansion, and my attitude
was whoever is in best position to expand the electorate,
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I'm going to go and bust my tush for them,
like I've done all across this country. I called both
he and James Tallerico. I will not reveal the confidences
of those conversations. I will tell you that I did
offer my polling to them and told them it's quite compelling,
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and I actually gave them numbers. I actually told them like,
like I'm winning in this category, I'm winning in this category.
And as far as expansion. I am the expansion candidate.
Right when we talk to people that are registered to
vote but don't vote and hadn't planned to vote, and
we asked them, well, if this person or this person
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or this person was on the ballot, would you be
more inclined to vote, and across the board it was me.
So I did tell them that. I told them that
I would be happy to send them numbers if they
wanted to see it, because I wanted us to work together,
because in order for Texas to win, I wanted to
give us the best shot. I will tell you that
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neither one of them asked to see my numbers, and
I theorize it is because trends are trends, so like
my number may say forty something or fifty something or whatever,
but like the trend is going to be the same,
like things should still be in the same order, that
kind of stuff. And they had their own internal polling.
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I think that Colin and I obviously he was my
most recent colleague and he had run statewide and he
is someone that I do consistently talk to as we're
trying to go through this and ask questions of because
he just ran statewide. I also talked to Betto, who
obviously has run statewide twice. I talked to him a
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lot before I made the final decision, and I will
say that, you know, I felt confident that Colin wanted
to do what was best for the team and for him.
I don't feel like it was ever about him trying
to like get something for him, but it was more
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so like, I think that this is possibly what's best
for our state, and that's not to have some protracted primary,
which potentially having the three of us in it would
have potentially led to that. But I won't put words
in his mouth, but I do feel like overall he
was really seeking what would be best for Texas, and so,
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you know, I wish him well on his campaign. I
had no idea that he was going to switch to
run for the congressional district that I now live in, actually,
and he actually was my congressman when he first got
to Congress. So he's getting this kind of area back
into his districts.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Now, is this the same district that now your pastor,
our shared pastor are calling my side?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Pastor Freddie Haynes knows a different district.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Okay, Yeah, they moved me out of my guest. So
Pastor Haynes is actually running in what's left of my
old district. So about five hundred thousand or so of
the people in my district are still like they never moved,
and then about a little over two hundred thousand of
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us did get moved. So I am part of that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
To buy intention, let's be clear that it was by.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Intention, yes, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So let me ask you this because I think that
that this is important too when we're talking about what's
best for Texas, and you know, as a part of that,
you're thinking about what's best for the country, because when
you serve in Congress, as you do now, you're not
just doing this on behalf of your constituent's primary. Sure,
but also there's this larger kind of ecosystem of what's
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happening in the country right now.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What do you think are you know.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Three major things that sets you apart from the current
senator who you'd be challenging, John Cornyn.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Not the viral.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I want to know what.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I want to know what they would get if they
don't or if they are voting for you, wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna tell you this, yea, because
I'm because I'm always keep you one hundred regardless as
to whether or not I'm supposed to be this person.
But I just only know how to be real. John
Corny when I came in, was to me what a
senator should be. I'm gonna just be honest, like, yes,
we're not the same political party, but he recognized and
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respected the fact that I was one of his House members.
And I fully anticipate that once I become the Senator,
I will do the exact same thing for Republican members
that are serving their constituency. Our share constituency. And so
John Cornan actually their office reached out to ours when
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we couldn't swear in. If y'all remember the Republicans couldn't
pick a speaker. Kevin McCarthy was struggling, and so we
couldn't do anything. We had no access to our computers,
like nothing like, we just had to sit on the floor.
And so there was a speaker, and Corny's office contacted
hours and said, hey, just redirect your calls to us,
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because anything that I can do as a House member,
the Senate can do as well. Right, But they were
up and running, so we did that. We uh directed calls,
and then after I swore in, he wanted to do
like an in person meeting. He wasn't like cruise okay.
He wanted to do an in person meeting. He wanted
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to find out what my priorities were. He wanted to
make sure that if there was something that we could
work on together, that I didn't feel like I needed
to go to a Democratic senator, but to at least
give them a shot first if I felt like it
was good for Texas. Okay. So you got that part
of it right, and we have worked in about partisan way.
There's a lot of legislation that I worked on as
relates to fentanyl from the state House. I brought it
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onto the federal level, and he has carried that legislation
in the Senate for me. He's worked on food security
bills with me. We were able to get a bill
called the Grant Transparency Act signed into law by Joe
Biden because the Republicans were controlling the House, like the
lead lead that is listed on the bill is my
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Republican counterpart in the House, and then I'm the House
Democrat lead. And then in the Senate, we were the
ones to be able to get John Cornyan onto it
and a Democrat carried it. So we have worked on
things together. That doesn't bother Democrats that like, I'm working
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for what's best. What John Cornan has done is he's
attempted to transform himself into MAGA and that is so
that he can win. And you know, honestly, I think
that he would probably do better. This is free campaign
advice that he never asked for. But I think people
actually look at you more suspect when you start changing
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who you are, because then they feel like you're just
changing with the win and they don't know what they're
going to get. So some of the things things that
we differ on is just I'm a Democrat. He's a Republican.
So when it comes down to it, he voted for
the Big Ugly Bill, which is going to give tax
cuts to the richest amongst us and made that permanent,
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while at the same time he and Senator Cruz voted
against giving a tax subsidy to people that need to
be able to access healthcare on the marketplace. That is
a very clear, easy distinction. In addition to that, you know,
Senator Cornyn is also an attorney like I am, and
he knows that the President is consistently violating the law,
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but he's sitting by quietly and not standing up for Texans.
You know, these tariffs specifically are hitting Texas even harder
because we are a big trade state. In addition to
us doing agriculture in a big way. Right now, am Marillo,
their tyson's plant is about to shut down that handles beef.
(25:58):
I just went to my local soul food spot, shout
out to otoms right when I'm at home. I hit
up Otom's family owned been around forever and literally like
in the family literally like works there. So the mother
of the business says to me, Hey, my beef is
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like a whole problem right now. And I was like,
just like you're talking about the seafood, okay, I said,
I know. She's like no, for real, Like he just
got in and I've been dealing with the same people
that I get my beef from for the restaurant for years,
and they are talking about how they may be going
out of business after my costs have like gone through
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the roof. Right. I went to another sof for restaurant
on Sunday and Fort Worth after I finished church Nana's,
and she was complaining about the cost of food as well. Yeah,
so you know, knowing that they are not backing us up,
backing up farmers and ranchers, which I can guarantee you
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that the average farmer and rancher has been voting for them.
You should be backing them up because these tariffs are
literally killing them. Yeah, and they are killing and it's
not just the farmers for everybody's like, oh, you know,
that's on y'all. No, because we all eat y'all, like
we need Like one of the songs that I use,
because I always use songs when i'm speaking, is I
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need you to survive. That is one of the songs
that I use. It is true. So like, if the
farmers and the ranchers go out of business, that means
that there's less available. That means that our costs go up, right,
or looking at the fact that they got rid of
and they did this when they voted for the Big
Ugly Bill, they reduced the amount of snap benefits that
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are going to be available. We've got money that now
won't be going into the grocery store, money now that
farmers can't bank on getting, and that makes all of
our costs go up. If the grocery store is going
to stay open. So, like you're talking about climate change,
but I honestly, every single policy that they have, when
you evaluate the layers to it, it is causing for
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catastrophic problems. It is not just one thing. Climate change
is one part of it, right, but also like crazy
trade policies is another part of it, because we do
export our food, but we're not able to export like
we normally do. And if we get to the point
that we're unable to like grow our own food and
we're relying on other countries, that's a matter of national security.
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You don't ever want to have to rely on other people. So,
you know, I think that, like right now, the biggest
differences are that they are putting it's not even party,
but they're putting Trump over everybody. And you know, I
plan to continue to listen to the thirty million Texans
that I would be representing instead of focusing in on
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the one man that's sitting in the White House.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know, on this you have become a formidable opponent
to the Trumps, the Trumps, to the Trump administration and
Trump acolytes. And so there's someone in particular who saw
it fit to let your name come out of his
mouth at Seapack. So I want to roll this clip
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as JD. Bans and Jasmine Crockett. Oh, Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The record speaks for itself.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
She wants to be a senator, though her street girl
persona is about as real as her nails. I just
like I guess, Jeff, I want you to respond to this.
But what is so fascinating to me is he doesn't
go into the record, which he just cites. I don't
know if he knows the record. We just talked some
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about some of your record, which is bipartisan in nature.
You talked about the relationship, the working relationship that you've
had with John Cornet as the Texas the city unit
of the United States, or one of them from Texas.
It's fascinating to me that we've been through eyelashes and
now we're at nails. I don't understand. So talk to
me about why you think it was important for him
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to bring you up at Seapack.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I got my theories. I want to know why you think.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I mean, obviously, he ended this little riff of racist
rants about you don't have to apologize for being white anymore,
which I've missed those apologies. I'm just saying, and nobody's
ever had to apologize for how they were born or
how God made them, Like nobody ever asked for anybody
to apologize for the fact that they're white. But that's
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a whole other issue. And just for the record, Jed Advance,
my nails are actually real, just so you know, just
I mean so, and I have never tried to have
a street girl persona, but I will tell you that
I am Texas in every way and as they say
in Texas, don't mess with Texas. So when you come
for me, I absolutely will respond, right, especially if I
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didn't send for you. But like, let's talk about the record.
Like I said before, I'm like jd Vance, the only
reason you were standing there is the vice president is
because the president tries to have his last vice president executed.
Like that's the only reason, Like, I mean, there is
no other reason. And this kind of goes back to
I will tell you because you brought up this point
about people saying, wait your turn. Jd Vance is like
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my age or younger. When it came down to Barack
Hussein Obama, I'm pretty sure a lot of people told
him to wait his turn too, and he was a
forty four year old junior senator out of Illinois. I
am a forty four year old grown ass woman who
not only has served on the state level, who is
not only served on the federal level, but even before
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that was serving the people in the streets. I've served
on boards, whether it was a mental health board. I've
served as the president of various organizations, whether they're legal
organizations or otherwise. I actually was the youngest black person
to ever be elected a county Democratic Party chair, and
that was in East Texas, not urban Texas. That was
in rural Texas, where I was the elected party chair
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who was always behind the scenes making sure that I
could help other candidates win elections. I then came to
Dallas and was behind the scenes and helped Dallas County
to have more African Americans on the bench than any
other county in the entire country. So, like, let me
tell you, I have put in my work because I
believe in the work. I believe in real good public servants.
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I have traveled this country as a national co chair
for Vice President Harris. Prior to that, I was one
of the top request at surrogates for Joe Biden, going
around this entire country. I went to California to make
sure that I could do my part for Prop fifty.
I went into Pennsylvania and make sure that they could
retain their judges. I went into Virginia to make sure
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that I could assist Abigail Spaanberger. Let me tell you something.
For everybody that wants to pretend as if I'm not
a team player, check the record. I have gathered up
well over three million miles traveling this country on behalf
of democracy. Again, if someone else had better numbers, which
no one else has released those numbers, then I wouldn't
be running for the US Senate right now because at
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the end of the day, again, my pay doesn't change,
but my responsibilities do. But as a trained attorney, in
understanding that it was this Supreme Court that decided four
days before our filing deadline that they were going to
go ahead and side with the racist maps that they passed.
And I'm calling them racists because that's what they were.
And it was a Trump appointee who wrote one hundred
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and sixty page order stating the very same. This isn't opinion,
these are just facts. But this Supreme Court doesn't care
at all. But guess who it is that has oversight
over the Supreme Court. It's the Senate. That's the only
body that does. Guess how you get to the Supreme
Court through the Senate. Guess how you make it to
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any judicial bench on the federal level for a lifetime appointment.
It is through the Senate. Guess that's how or why
we don't have reproductive access right now? It is because
of the Senate. Guess why they are playing with our
maps right now? Because the House passed the Freedom to
Vote Act, the House passed the John Lewis Vody Rights
Advancement Acts. But what happened in the Senate? Nothing? Why
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does DC not have statehood? It is because of the Senate.
I could go on and on and on and so again.
I can continue to give people lip service. I can
continue to file the most beautiful bills you have ever
seen in your life. But if we are going to
make any change, we have to change the map. So
this is again bigger than Texas, And frankly, I'm not
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going to sit here and be distracted by haters every time.
You can't go to policy, and you got to go
to my looks. You gotta goal to how I dress,
You gotta goal to how I talk. That's telling me
that you ain't got nothing that you want to talk about,
because I'm ready to go toe to toe, and frankly,
I don't know why jd Vance wants to talk about
looks like we really not going to go there because
I'm sorry because people haven't been making memes about me
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and mass scare and all this other kind of stuff
like that's not what people have been doing of me, sir.
Focus on your job. Focus on the fact that people
don't know how they're going to afford their Christmas dinner,
as Angela was just laying out. Focus on the fact
that we have lost one point one million jobs in
this country and it's not even been a year that
your administration has been in Focus on the fact that
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we have a record number of people that have died
in ice custody under your terrible policies. Focus on the
fact that these tariffs are killing our small businesses and
our farmers in ranchers, as we have a historic number
of bankruptcies that have been filed by our farmers and ranches. Listen,
you got a lot of work to do, and if
you got time to somehow be checking me out in
my attire and in my nails, then, frankly, that explains
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why we are not getting the things that we need
in this country because you are not focused. Focus boom.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I would drop my mic syst but it's attached to
this little arm, so I'll do it like this. Look
just look here, go bap. That's all I got. But y'all,
I mean, y'all can run tell that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'll just say this, Jasmin Crockett, you are the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
People's champ and I know Texas will be so blessed
to have you. I pray that this holiday season is amazing,
that it is nourishing. You have been working so hard,
and I do want to thank you for the incredible
sacrifice you've made in public service because you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So we see you, We hear you. JD Vans.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Maybe it's maybe laying baby, but maybe you out of
mind Joe business because Jasmine said, get off her nails.
My nails are shorter than hers. Pray, y'all, it'd have
been through some things. Jael did a number on it.
But since happy holidays, I'm sending you all the love
I'm gonna check on you later this week. But you
know we are rooting for you, we are praying for you.
I am not unbiased in that way at all. You
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have You've been just legendary. So I look forward to
seeing you soon and heg and you.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Nick good to see you.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Love you for me.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know I will all right have a good one.
You too, all right, y'all. So that is just tremendous.
I have nothing to add to it. Jasmine is so great.
You all make sure that you check things out before
you say them. When you talk about people's records, look
them up. Jasmin went through so many things that she's done,
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even on a bipartisan level with John Cornyan, and I
think it's important for us to understand the full breath
and depth of who someone is and what they bring
to the table. Don't judge up the book by its cover.
Don't be mad because she knows how to relate to
people you could never like. Just really try to understand
instead of hate and learn. Baby, it's a good time
to learn. Getting a holiday spirit and learn something new.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Y'all. Please pray for my gumbow.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
It gotta be great because the seafood was expensive anyway,
I love y'all until next time.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Welcome home, y'all, and Merry Christmas. Happy.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome, Welcome home, everybody in Happy Holidays. This is Native lamppod.
It's the Solo pod edition. I'm Angela Rye, your host
for today, and I am just thrilled to be in
the midst of the holiday season. Now, before I get
started today, y'all, I got a quick complaint. I went
to my favorite place in Seattle, Pipe Place Market. I
went to get the seafood for the gumbo, because you
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know we're doing gumbo for Christmas, y'all. Is a two
thousand dollars shopping trip. And I'm telling you because I
didn't get a bag, I didn't get shoes. I spent
a bag on some seafood. And I want to tell y'
all this because I think it's very important. At some point,
I'm gonna have somebody from Purefish on here to talk
to you, because I don't think that everyone realizes, especially
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the climate deniers among us, just how much climate change
is impacting every dog gone thing. And when I talk
about every dog one thing, I'm talking about everything, including
your seafood. I learned today that Alaskan king crab, Alaskan
King crab number one, the price has doubled five pound.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It has doubled.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The reason why the price has doubled by the pound
is because the water is heating and it is literally
cooking Alaskan king crab, baby, y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So there is less. It is the survival of the
fittest in the water. And I don't want to keep
trying it. So do me a favorite this holiday season.
All I want for Christmas, I would say you, But
what I want for Christmas is for you to recycle,
for you to compost, for you to be mindful of
the waste that you are engaging in. Please feed your families, y'all.
But man, these seafood prices are too high. I'm gonna
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start a party like that man, you had the rent
as too damn high party. Mine is about to be
the seafood is two damn high party. And I gotta
tell you, we gotta do something about climate change. So please,
when you next time you go to the restaurant, tap
the Republican next to you and let them know that
climate change is real.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And theyre about to see it in their seafood on
that plate.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Now, with that out the way, I have such an
important guest joining us today.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
She has become a dear, dear sister friend to me.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
She is a fighter that I look to for courage
in this time to let me know that we're going
to be all right. All Kendrick Lamar and she is
just such a champion for the people.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You all have said it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Even folks who don't like politics are paying attention to
the words and the actions of this incredible woman.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Her name is Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
She is a congresswoman representing the Dallas for Worth area
in Texas, and she's also running for the United States Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Jessey Jazz is in the building.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hangerswiman, Jazz and Crockett.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Wow? How are you girl?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I'm good besides these seafood prices.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I hear you, I hear you loud and cleary. You're
talking about climate change. I'm like, we don't have climate change.
According to my colleagues, at least, they say it's a hoax.
They say it's not real, and therefore we have also
defund all research as it relates to science in all ways,
not just as relates to climate and studying it him
trying to figure out how it is that we can
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cool this planet down being smarter in our policies. But
they deny it in that way and others. I'll just
say that one.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They deny a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And I want to just deepen into that just for
a moment, because recently you decided to throw your hat
in the ring for the United States Senate. There are people,
there are elders, some of our elders, who said it's
too soon, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Read some literature on the topic.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Are you sure? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I had went down hundred three thousand real quick.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But I got to say, like, for people who are like,
it's too soon, what do you say to that? Why now? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it's hard to define what too soon looks like
when you're talking to someone like me, because for some
people the time would never arrive, especially as a black
woman in this country. I mean, we know that, yes,
Texas has never done it. We know that it's only
been done a handful of I mean, just think about
how recent our history is. I mean, the very first
black woman that ever swear into the US Senate is
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still alive, right, We're not talking about like back in
and back in the day history. We know that only
the second black woman to swear into the US Senate
was our beloved Vice President Kamala Harris, and we know
that we ended up having our third be appointed to
the Senate. And then we know that we now, for
the first time in the history of the United States,
we have two that are serving at the same time.
So we've only had five black women. But I think
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that this is bigger than race or sex. While there
may be history that is taking place, I've never done
anything seeking history. I've done things seeking justice, and I've
done things seeking change. And so part of me was
starting to feel like, what really is my purpose in
the House in this moment? Okay, if times were normal,
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be completely different, I would most likely be running for
re elections to the House. Most likely would win reelection
with little to no problems. I must say that I
have a great poor with my district and that they
seemingly would have been very happy to have me return
to the district. But I can file a million bills
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in the House, and you know what, we may even
take the House. In fact, that's one of the things
that is scaring this current administration, which is why they're
going through and they're trying to cheat and take as
many seats as they can. But I think, no matter
what happens, I think we win the House because the
political environment is just that bad. But what happens when
you win the House and you still don't have the
numbers in the Senate nothing. The reason that people get
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frustrated with Democrats as a whole, and they'd be like, well,
you promise me this, you promise me repro access, you
promised me that you would work on voting rice, you
promise me this, you promise me that, and then you
go and file the bills, they make it out of
the House, and then nothing happens in the Senate. And
so for me, I was like, if I'm really just
here to kind of be about quote unquote myself, Okay,
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I guess, but honestly, I can do a lot more
on the outside. I mean, Angela, you have been, in
effect to voice from the outside. There are things that
you do on the outside that definitely permeate to the
inside that people never see. And then you also do
things that people absolutely see on the outside, like you
are very effective, but like I can be effective, make
more money and have less death threats. I'm just saying, right,
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But I signed up for this because I knew that
the pathway to real freedom for some of us was
through legislation, and I needed to be at the table.
But if I'm just at the table and I'm just
being a voice and I'm not able to actually get
that other part done, then what is the point. So ultimately,
there's a couple of things that are different about this
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current point in time. Number One, this is the first
time since the nineties. Remind you, the last Democratic governor
we had was a woman, and yes it was the
second woman. Texas has had two women elected. The first
one was elected in the nineteen thirties and the other
one was an Riches in the nineteen nineties. It's the
first time since the nineteen nineties that we have candidates
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that are in all seats. They are running for all
the US House seats, they are running for all the
state House and state Senate seats. That matters because now
instead of fifty percent of those seats going unfilleded, we
have candidates that are going to consistently be talking to
voters all throughout Texas. That's number one. Number two, this
is the first time that I can recall that the
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Republicans are absolutely headed to a runoff, which means that
they are going to constantly beat up on each other
for a longer amount of time than what will take
place on our side, giving us an advantage. That's more
money that they're spending, and that's also them tearing each
other apart for a longer amount of time. Number Three,
We've always had amazing candidates, great resumes. You can look
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at their resumes and you can say, oh, man, it's
a perfect person on paper. Right. And one of the
people that I think about is Beto or Work because
he's the one that came the closest and his election
most closely aligned with the current election that we're about
to go into because it was in the midterm of
a Trump presidency. Betso A Rourke. When he got into
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the race, no one knew who Betto was. No one
had ever heard of them, and so these races are
very expensive. They cost about one hundred million dollars. But
what we do is we spend almost one hundred million
dollars just for somebody to learn their names. We walk
in with an advantage. We've never walked in with a
candidate who had asked hig a name ID, and I
look at races and I say, first step is name
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I D's second step is actually understanding that person's brand.
Third step is actually making them believe that you can
trust this candidate to actually do better for you and
better for your life. In the fourth base is getting
them to the polls. Well, we're already at third base.
So having the high name I D allowed me to
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do an unconventional launch video. Having high name I D
allows me to get people that are even beyond Texas
and get them involved. And finally, this state is a
majority minority state. Sixty one percent of the state is
people of color. But when we look at voter turnout,
we are only getting a little bit more than fifty
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percent of our voters that are already registered to turn out.
And when we look at who's not coming out, they're
black and brown. Now, most early polling showed that I
was doing best with black and brown folk. When we
looked at Beto's numbers, he had the strongest numbers amongst
black and brown people, and that's what got him closer.
So we look at it like, hey, we're starting off
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with a bit of a lead. And frankly, right now,
there are so many people that just don't trust politicians
and just think that people are out there telling them
what they want to hear. I'm going to get the
same check. My check don't change, my responsibility changes, and
the targets on my back change. But if I say
that I'm doing this because I actually want to help people,
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then why would I not go out when the numbers
reveal that I have the ability to expand the electric
and not only do this for Texas, but to do
this for the So you know, they're gonna keep having
my name in a mouth, whether they're Democrats or Republicans
because we know what the numbers are, because they can
theorize all they want to. But the reality is that
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they would actually drop the numbers if they were like,
oh no, she has no chance. They would just put
them out there. But we know that that's not the case.
And I'll be perfectly honest and tell you I'm not
putting out my numbers because I don't want Republicans to
raise off my numbers. I don't want them saying, oh no,
send us more money. Jasmine's in the position she's in.
I'm not gonna say the position, but Jasmin's in the
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position she's in. Nobody is dropping numbers for a reason.
If they had numbers that showed that I was not competitive,
then frankly, they wouldn't be talking about me because I
would be irrelevant, And second of all, they would just
put the numbers out.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I want to ask you too, because I think this
is so important. Before you were a member of Congress,
you were a state rep. Before you were a state Rep,
you were a civil rights attorney, a public defender. You
like have dedicated your life in so many ways to
public service and to being a conscience. We talk about
the Congressional black hawkas being the conscience of the Congress,
but there are consciences in our communities, of the.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Culture, etc.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I want to know how much time you spent talking
to other people who haven't just run statewide in Texas,
but have run state wide in other places, and what
best practices you've kind of called from them. Is there
a kitchen cabinet to help to make sure that your
lot is different? Like, we know that the odds are
against you in these states, especially if we don't mobilize
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our voters, and as the country continues to make it
more difficult for people to vote one and two to
feel seen and heard even represented, Like, yeah, it's gonna
be hard to get people out. So what are the
kinds of conversations you're having and who are you talking
to about what it's like to run statewide.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, So it's funny that you mentioned that because I
literally text Jamie Harrison probably about twenty minutes ago Jay
about some things. And for sure I've probably spent more
time talking to Stacy Abrams than anyone and there's a
lot of reasons for that. Obviously, there are similarities in
our background. Stacy also came from the state legislature. She
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was obviously a minority leader. I was not. Stacey then
went on to work on statewide kind of races and
building out infrastructure. So, you know, I will say this,
I appreciate those that have come before me in all ways,
not just those that are more contemporary, but even those
that I never had a chance to meet, because my
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goal will always be to honor their legacy and their
sacrifices by making sure that I am a building block
for somebody coming behind me. So with Stacy Abrams. We've
had conversations about what it looked like to organize, and
she's given me tips on what I need to do.
I want to lay it all out for everybody else,
but she's given me tips on how to make sure
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that we are maximizing our touches in the state. Obviously
it wasn't Stacy alone. You've got Latasha who always is
available and answer the call at Black Voters Matter, but
also just kind of those other organizations that we're working together.
My first D nine ish H endorsement has come from
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the omega's C four and so the D nine part
of things as well. They are getting a lot more
involved from a C four standpoint, not a C three standpoint.
So I'm engaging in conversations about organizing natural kind of
spaces of organization, whether it's churches or whether it's D
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nine organization, so that again we're more so building instead
of kind of reinventing. In addition to that, you know,
I have talked to well, I'm just I've talked to
the vice president. I mean, I wasn't gonna make the
decision without having some real conversations with the vice president,
and obviously she didn't just run in one state. She's
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running a lot of states, right And to this day
she still remains a mentor and a friend and an
auntie of sorts, even though I'm technically auntie's status.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Now that hurts when that happens, When that change comes,
jazz is called.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I know. But you know, like talking to the Vice president,
it is it's tough because she looks at me like
I am family, right, So you know, there's been all
the conversations. But also you know, talking to some of
the elected US senators as well about this, and and
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I won't out them until they come out per se
in their official support capacities. But there is one member
who was like, I think you can do it, like
I have no doubts, And that particular member said, my
biggest concern is your safety. If you tell me that
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you are going to take all the precautions that you
need to take, then go for it. But I don't
want you to become a sacrificial lamb. And so like
again like very real love. And I can tell you
that the Vice President in a very similar vein is
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like the country needs you. I'm gonna need you to
make sure that you're like as safe as possible. And
you and I have talked before about me going and
getting fitted for a vest and all that kind of stuff,
and people don't understand how long it takes to get them.
But literally I got a notification today because I said
I can't go through this campaign and I have my vest. Yeah,
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and it is a sad reality. But I think about
the courage that had to exist for those that came
before me. I mean, you know, I keep Shirley behind me.
Us surely is always around somewhere, right, I have no
idea what she went through. Yeah, being the first of
the first, right, I can tell you that nothing makes
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me be naive about this and believe that it was
just all, you know, peachy for her. And as I
was doing a recording yesterday, I was talking about a
ten year old girl who knows who I am when
I went to her church, and that was so powerful
to me knowing that this baby, like when I was
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her age, I couldn't tell you who elected officials were,
but that she knows who I am, that she knows
that I stand up for myself, that she's looking to me.
I just think that I could not afford in this time,
where everybody is saying what has happened to our country?
To just do what was comfortable or expedient, which would
have been going back to the house, I could have
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done it, Yeah, but we deserve better.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You did you have to call Colin and ask him
to drop out? Did you Colin Alredd It's who I'm
talking about? Or did he decide? Did he make that
decision on his own without any conversations.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
So I had very much publicly stated that I would
call both of the people in the race once I
got the results of my polling, which is a little
different than traditional. We did traditional stuff, but then we
had a piece that was about expansion, and my attitude
was whoever is in best position to expand the electorate,
(17:41):
I'm going to go and bust my tush for them,
like I've done all across this country. I called both
he and James Tallerico. I will not reveal the confidences
of those conversations. I will tell you that I did
offer my polling to them and told them it's quite compelling,
(18:04):
and I actually gave them numbers. I actually told them like,
like I'm winning in this category, I'm winning in this category.
And as far as expansion. I am the expansion candidate.
Right when we talk to people that are registered to
vote but don't vote and hadn't planned to vote, and
we asked them, well, if this person or this person
(18:25):
or this person was on the ballot, would you be
more inclined to vote, and across the board it was me.
So I did tell them that. I told them that
I would be happy to send them numbers if they
wanted to see it, because I wanted us to work together,
because in order for Texas to win, I wanted to
give us the best shot. I will tell you that
(18:46):
neither one of them asked to see my numbers, and
I theorize it is because trends are trends, so like
my number may say forty something or fifty something or whatever,
but like the trend is going to be the same,
like things should still be in the same order, that
kind of stuff. And they had their own internal polling.
(19:06):
I think that Colin and I obviously he was my
most recent colleague and he had run statewide and he
is someone that I do consistently talk to as we're
trying to go through this and ask questions of because
he just ran statewide. I also talked to Betto, who
obviously has run statewide twice. I talked to him a
(19:29):
lot before I made the final decision, and I will
say that, you know, I felt confident that Colin wanted
to do what was best for the team and for him.
I don't feel like it was ever about him trying
to like get something for him, but it was more
(19:50):
so like, I think that this is possibly what's best
for our state, and that's not to have some protracted primary,
which potentially having the three of us in it would
have potentially led to that. But I won't put words
in his mouth, but I do feel like overall he
was really seeking what would be best for Texas, and so,
(20:15):
you know, I wish him well on his campaign. I
had no idea that he was going to switch to
run for the congressional district that I now live in, actually,
and he actually was my congressman when he first got
to Congress. So he's getting this kind of area back
into his districts.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Now, is this the same district that now your pastor,
our shared pastor are calling my side?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Pastor Freddie Haynes knows a different district.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Okay, Yeah, they moved me out of my guest. So
Pastor Haynes is actually running in what's left of my
old district. So about five hundred thousand or so of
the people in my district are still like they never moved,
and then about a little over two hundred thousand of
(21:03):
us did get moved. So I am part of that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
To buy intention, let's be clear that it was by.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Intention, yes, for sure.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So let me ask you this because I think that
that this is important too when we're talking about what's
best for Texas, and you know, as a part of that,
you're thinking about what's best for the country, because when
you serve in Congress, as you do now, you're not
just doing this on behalf of your constituent's primary. Sure,
but also there's this larger kind of ecosystem of what's
(21:42):
happening in the country right now.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What do you think are you know.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Three major things that sets you apart from the current
senator who you'd be challenging, John Cornyn.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Not the viral.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I want to know what.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I want to know what they would get if they
don't or if they are voting for you, wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna tell you this, yea, because
I'm because I'm always keep you one hundred regardless as
to whether or not I'm supposed to be this person.
But I just only know how to be real. John
Corny when I came in, was to me what a
senator should be. I'm gonna just be honest, like, yes,
we're not the same political party, but he recognized and
(22:25):
respected the fact that I was one of his House members.
And I fully anticipate that once I become the Senator,
I will do the exact same thing for Republican members
that are serving their constituency. Our share constituency. And so
John Cornan actually their office reached out to ours when
(22:45):
we couldn't swear in. If y'all remember the Republicans couldn't
pick a speaker. Kevin McCarthy was struggling, and so we
couldn't do anything. We had no access to our computers,
like nothing like, we just had to sit on the floor.
And so there was a speaker, and Corny's office contacted
hours and said, hey, just redirect your calls to us,
(23:07):
because anything that I can do as a House member,
the Senate can do as well. Right, But they were
up and running, so we did that. We uh directed calls,
and then after I swore in, he wanted to do
like an in person meeting. He wasn't like cruise okay.
He wanted to do an in person meeting. He wanted
(23:27):
to find out what my priorities were. He wanted to
make sure that if there was something that we could
work on together, that I didn't feel like I needed
to go to a Democratic senator, but to at least
give them a shot first if I felt like it
was good for Texas. Okay. So you got that part
of it right, and we have worked in about partisan way.
There's a lot of legislation that I worked on as
relates to fentanyl from the state House. I brought it
(23:50):
onto the federal level, and he has carried that legislation
in the Senate for me. He's worked on food security
bills with me. We were able to get a bill
called the Grant Transparency Act signed into law by Joe
Biden because the Republicans were controlling the House, like the
lead lead that is listed on the bill is my
(24:11):
Republican counterpart in the House, and then I'm the House
Democrat lead. And then in the Senate, we were the
ones to be able to get John Cornyan onto it
and a Democrat carried it. So we have worked on
things together. That doesn't bother Democrats that like, I'm working
(24:31):
for what's best. What John Cornan has done is he's
attempted to transform himself into MAGA and that is so
that he can win. And you know, honestly, I think
that he would probably do better. This is free campaign
advice that he never asked for. But I think people
actually look at you more suspect when you start changing
(24:52):
who you are, because then they feel like you're just
changing with the win and they don't know what they're
going to get. So some of the things things that
we differ on is just I'm a Democrat. He's a Republican.
So when it comes down to it, he voted for
the Big Ugly Bill, which is going to give tax
cuts to the richest amongst us and made that permanent,
(25:12):
while at the same time he and Senator Cruz voted
against giving a tax subsidy to people that need to
be able to access healthcare on the marketplace. That is
a very clear, easy distinction. In addition to that, you know,
Senator Cornyn is also an attorney like I am, and
he knows that the President is consistently violating the law,
(25:36):
but he's sitting by quietly and not standing up for Texans.
You know, these tariffs specifically are hitting Texas even harder
because we are a big trade state. In addition to
us doing agriculture in a big way. Right now, am Marillo,
their tyson's plant is about to shut down that handles beef.
(25:58):
I just went to my local soul food spot, shout
out to otoms right when I'm at home. I hit
up Otom's family owned been around forever and literally like
in the family literally like works there. So the mother
of the business says to me, Hey, my beef is
(26:20):
like a whole problem right now. And I was like,
just like you're talking about the seafood, okay, I said,
I know. She's like no, for real, Like he just
got in and I've been dealing with the same people
that I get my beef from for the restaurant for years,
and they are talking about how they may be going
out of business after my costs have like gone through
(26:44):
the roof. Right. I went to another sof for restaurant
on Sunday and Fort Worth after I finished church Nana's,
and she was complaining about the cost of food as well. Yeah,
so you know, knowing that they are not backing us up,
backing up farmers and ranchers, which I can guarantee you
(27:04):
that the average farmer and rancher has been voting for them.
You should be backing them up because these tariffs are
literally killing them. Yeah, and they are killing and it's
not just the farmers for everybody's like, oh, you know,
that's on y'all. No, because we all eat y'all, like
we need Like one of the songs that I use,
because I always use songs when i'm speaking, is I
(27:24):
need you to survive. That is one of the songs
that I use. It is true. So like, if the
farmers and the ranchers go out of business, that means
that there's less available. That means that our costs go up, right,
or looking at the fact that they got rid of
and they did this when they voted for the Big
Ugly Bill, they reduced the amount of snap benefits that
(27:45):
are going to be available. We've got money that now
won't be going into the grocery store, money now that
farmers can't bank on getting, and that makes all of
our costs go up. If the grocery store is going
to stay open. So, like you're talking about climate change,
but I honestly, every single policy that they have, when
you evaluate the layers to it, it is causing for
(28:07):
catastrophic problems. It is not just one thing. Climate change
is one part of it, right, but also like crazy
trade policies is another part of it, because we do
export our food, but we're not able to export like
we normally do. And if we get to the point
that we're unable to like grow our own food and
we're relying on other countries, that's a matter of national security.
(28:31):
You don't ever want to have to rely on other people. So,
you know, I think that, like right now, the biggest
differences are that they are putting it's not even party,
but they're putting Trump over everybody. And you know, I
plan to continue to listen to the thirty million Texans
that I would be representing instead of focusing in on
(28:53):
the one man that's sitting in the White House.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know, on this you have become a formidable opponent
to the Trumps, the Trumps, to the Trump administration and
Trump acolytes. And so there's someone in particular who saw
it fit to let your name come out of his
mouth at Seapack. So I want to roll this clip
(29:16):
as JD. Bans and Jasmine Crockett. Oh, Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The record speaks for itself.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
She wants to be a senator, though her street girl
persona is about as real as her nails. I just
like I guess, Jeff, I want you to respond to this.
But what is so fascinating to me is he doesn't
go into the record, which he just cites. I don't
know if he knows the record. We just talked some
(29:50):
about some of your record, which is bipartisan in nature.
You talked about the relationship, the working relationship that you've
had with John Cornet as the Texas the city unit
of the United States, or one of them from Texas.
It's fascinating to me that we've been through eyelashes and
now we're at nails. I don't understand. So talk to
me about why you think it was important for him
(30:12):
to bring you up at Seapack.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I got my theories. I want to know why you think.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I mean, obviously, he ended this little riff of racist
rants about you don't have to apologize for being white anymore,
which I've missed those apologies. I'm just saying, and nobody's
ever had to apologize for how they were born or
how God made them, Like nobody ever asked for anybody
to apologize for the fact that they're white. But that's
(30:37):
a whole other issue. And just for the record, Jed Advance,
my nails are actually real, just so you know, just
I mean so, and I have never tried to have
a street girl persona, but I will tell you that
I am Texas in every way and as they say
in Texas, don't mess with Texas. So when you come
for me, I absolutely will respond, right, especially if I
(30:59):
didn't send for you. But like, let's talk about the record.
Like I said before, I'm like jd Vance, the only
reason you were standing there is the vice president is
because the president tries to have his last vice president executed.
Like that's the only reason, Like, I mean, there is
no other reason. And this kind of goes back to
I will tell you because you brought up this point
about people saying, wait your turn. Jd Vance is like
(31:22):
my age or younger. When it came down to Barack
Hussein Obama, I'm pretty sure a lot of people told
him to wait his turn too, and he was a
forty four year old junior senator out of Illinois. I
am a forty four year old grown ass woman who
not only has served on the state level, who is
not only served on the federal level, but even before
(31:42):
that was serving the people in the streets. I've served
on boards, whether it was a mental health board. I've
served as the president of various organizations, whether they're legal
organizations or otherwise. I actually was the youngest black person
to ever be elected a county Democratic Party chair, and
that was in East Texas, not urban Texas. That was
in rural Texas, where I was the elected party chair
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who was always behind the scenes making sure that I
could help other candidates win elections. I then came to
Dallas and was behind the scenes and helped Dallas County
to have more African Americans on the bench than any
other county in the entire country. So, like, let me
tell you, I have put in my work because I
believe in the work. I believe in real good public servants.
(32:27):
I have traveled this country as a national co chair
for Vice President Harris. Prior to that, I was one
of the top request at surrogates for Joe Biden, going
around this entire country. I went to California to make
sure that I could do my part for Prop fifty.
I went into Pennsylvania and make sure that they could
retain their judges. I went into Virginia to make sure
(32:47):
that I could assist Abigail Spaanberger. Let me tell you something.
For everybody that wants to pretend as if I'm not
a team player, check the record. I have gathered up
well over three million miles traveling this country on behalf
of democracy. Again, if someone else had better numbers, which
no one else has released those numbers, then I wouldn't
be running for the US Senate right now because at
(33:10):
the end of the day, again, my pay doesn't change,
but my responsibilities do. But as a trained attorney, in
understanding that it was this Supreme Court that decided four
days before our filing deadline that they were going to
go ahead and side with the racist maps that they passed.
And I'm calling them racists because that's what they were.
And it was a Trump appointee who wrote one hundred
(33:32):
and sixty page order stating the very same. This isn't opinion,
these are just facts. But this Supreme Court doesn't care
at all. But guess who it is that has oversight
over the Supreme Court. It's the Senate. That's the only
body that does. Guess how you get to the Supreme
Court through the Senate. Guess how you make it to
(33:53):
any judicial bench on the federal level for a lifetime appointment.
It is through the Senate. Guess that's how or why
we don't have reproductive access right now? It is because
of the Senate. Guess why they are playing with our
maps right now? Because the House passed the Freedom to
Vote Act, the House passed the John Lewis Vody Rights
Advancement Acts. But what happened in the Senate? Nothing? Why
(34:15):
does DC not have statehood? It is because of the Senate.
I could go on and on and on and so again.
I can continue to give people lip service. I can
continue to file the most beautiful bills you have ever
seen in your life. But if we are going to
make any change, we have to change the map. So
this is again bigger than Texas, And frankly, I'm not
(34:36):
going to sit here and be distracted by haters every time.
You can't go to policy, and you got to go
to my looks. You gotta goal to how I dress,
You gotta goal to how I talk. That's telling me
that you ain't got nothing that you want to talk about,
because I'm ready to go toe to toe, and frankly,
I don't know why jd Vance wants to talk about
looks like we really not going to go there because
I'm sorry because people haven't been making memes about me
(34:59):
and mass scare and all this other kind of stuff
like that's not what people have been doing of me, sir.
Focus on your job. Focus on the fact that people
don't know how they're going to afford their Christmas dinner,
as Angela was just laying out. Focus on the fact
that we have lost one point one million jobs in
this country and it's not even been a year that
your administration has been in Focus on the fact that
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we have a record number of people that have died
in ice custody under your terrible policies. Focus on the
fact that these tariffs are killing our small businesses and
our farmers in ranchers, as we have a historic number
of bankruptcies that have been filed by our farmers and ranches. Listen,
you got a lot of work to do, and if
you got time to somehow be checking me out in
my attire and in my nails, then, frankly, that explains
(35:43):
why we are not getting the things that we need
in this country because you are not focused. Focus boom.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I would drop my mic syst but it's attached to
this little arm, so I'll do it like this. Look
just look here, go bap. That's all I got. But y'all,
I mean, y'all can run tell that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'll just say this, Jasmin Crockett, you are the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
People's champ and I know Texas will be so blessed
to have you. I pray that this holiday season is amazing,
that it is nourishing. You have been working so hard,
and I do want to thank you for the incredible
sacrifice you've made in public service because you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So we see you, We hear you. JD Vans.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Maybe it's maybe laying baby, but maybe you out of
mind Joe business because Jasmine said, get off her nails.
My nails are shorter than hers. Pray, y'all, it'd have
been through some things. Jael did a number on it.
But since happy holidays, I'm sending you all the love
I'm gonna check on you later this week. But you
know we are rooting for you, we are praying for you.
I am not unbiased in that way at all. You
(36:45):
have You've been just legendary. So I look forward to
seeing you soon and heg and you.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Nick good to see you.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Love you for me.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know I will all right have a good one.
You too, all right, y'all. So that is just tremendous.
I have nothing to add to it. Jasmine is so great.
You all make sure that you check things out before
you say them. When you talk about people's records, look
them up. Jasmin went through so many things that she's done,
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even on a bipartisan level with John Cornyan, and I
think it's important for us to understand the full breath
and depth of who someone is and what they bring
to the table. Don't judge up the book by its cover.
Don't be mad because she knows how to relate to
people you could never like. Just really try to understand
instead of hate and learn. Baby, it's a good time
to learn. Getting a holiday spirit and learn something new.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Y'all. Please pray for my gumbow.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
It gotta be great because the seafood was expensive anyway,
I love y'all until next time.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Welcome home, y'all, and Merry Christmas. Happy.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
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