August 22, 2025 • 22 mins
On this week’s MiniPod, African American Vernacular English (AAVE) explained by our hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Rye, and Andrew Gillum.
Are you on code?? We got a question from the creator of NLP’s theme song (see his credit at the bottom of this description) that sparked a larger conversation about ebonics, African American English. PLUS a bonus question about how to become a politician.
What does “on code” mean to you? Leave us a comment–or better yet, check out this tutorial and send us a video: www.instagram.com/reel/C5j_oBXLIg0/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Native Lamb Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership
with Reason Choice Media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Home, y'all to this week's mini pod. So we had
a great show on our main episode this week with
Cherylyn Eiffel, and it was so good that you guys
sent in all these questions and comments, we did not
get a chance to get to them. So Angela, Andrew
and myself were here to try to get to as
many as possible. But you know, sometimes you guys ask
these questions and you take us down a rabbit hole
because your questions are so great or your comments are
(00:31):
so insightful. So we're gonna try to get to as
many as possible. So let's not waste any more time.
Roll us a question, turn.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Up, Nick Peace, Native Land Family. Daniel Rant, just checking in.
Just wanted to say the last episode was super, super dope.
It spoke to everything that I'm on with intention, and
everything you spoke about in the episode spoke to me
as a new thing that I'm on. I wrote a
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record called on Cold, and so everything you spoke about
to me was being on Cold. I would like to
know from each of you, what does on cold mean
to you?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I think we will probably be aligned in our thoughts.
I would think, but what does that mean? Angela, Tiffany,
Andrew like, what does on cold mean?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Guys? I love this because Daniel is truly native Lampid fam.
Many of you all know that he wrote our intro music. Daniel,
It's always good to see you. He is definitely part
of the family because he was like, Hey, y'all, since
I'm co hosting the show today, what is on now?
I don't know if you're saying on cold or on
is on cold?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Like Cood on cold, So I don't know what that means. Well,
because you're not on COLDE got it?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Definitely not on Code?
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Which show were we talking about? That was that?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think because he talked about Landy it could have
been that that show when we talked about Landy was
the designer, the black designer who we had on talking
about where we spend our money. But all of our
shows are on Code. I'm adopting it.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Because you know we about a cold.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Life, we about that on Code. We say that means?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Does that mean that he might be saying what you
were saying? On the last show tip, which was, you know,
there are certain things that should be for us, like
we should have our own cold. Like here's on code.
I got a perfect one, Andrew. You got to look
for this ready, y'all will know watch.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yes Egg precisely.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
You don't have to say, Andrew just on code. Yes.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Yeahbody in the community might not be on code if
they're not in.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
The community figured out.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Right, And if I say something to you, you don't
really know what I'm talking about. I'm kind of looking
at you. Signway, so I have another one.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I have another one.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, give us another.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
One, Andrew. You have to look the problem. Part of
the issue is it is Andrew's writing a whole. I
don't know what you.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Doing, Andrew, what are you doing over there?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I was?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I was imitating uh, Angela during any normal recording.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know Angela, you do, y'all. Angela does the same thing.
She always liked that.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Look at my notes.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I take you, okay, but you gotta get on cold.
You gotta get on cold.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I have to get on memory first, and then I'll
get on cold. Now here's my second encode moment. And
then you guys have to play your aids. I guess
that's what this is so sad for people who are
not watching it. I'll tell you what I'm doing afterwards. Okay,
so here's another one. Okay, see if you know what
I'm saying, obviously please Okay, So what I did was
(03:45):
a side I would like my lips pursed for those Well.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The first thing she did was like they have a
certain type of head nod. But it wasn't a head
nod like Top of the morning to you.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
It wasn't. It wasn't a yes, It was a yes,
flick that thing up like you do like head.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Yeah. It's like, yes, that statement is true, but you
don't follow it.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Oh you're talking back to the eyes. This is why
I back to the anyway, this is not going to
work for true.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
That That was my interpretation of it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It was like, yeah, you're sticking your head like uh huh.
We all know it's true, but you the last one
that should be calling it out because you don't do it,
you know, so like the person who's.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
But that was something we we went back to the
to the head.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Not both of them. I think both of them are
on cold. You doing something else that's on cold. If
we were all together and any one of them got
up and started running.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Oh yes, God started running. If we running, the table's falling.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
It's like, oh.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, said got up?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Nobody get up?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay. I have a question for the viewers. What what
is on Cold to you guys? And it has to
be something that you can You can drop a video
if you want, or you can drop it in the comments,
because we've been saying that we were going to talk
about different phrases and dialects from different geographical regions. And
we have a wonderful book that we're going to use
to explore that. So stay tuned. That's going to be
(05:12):
on the minipop coming up.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
What was his name?
Speaker 6 (05:14):
And Jared Hill is Darren Hill?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
This great book. It's on my coffee table. I love it,
So we will that's a future historical.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Historically black Dared Hill and Treville Anderson.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I love it. But for so we're gonna that's a
future episode. For now. I'm curious what is on Code
to you guys? It can be a gesture, It could
be something we say, but something that you know, like, oh, okay,
we're on COLDE.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Are we all together? Are we in unison? Are we
in alignment? Also, it's on code a geographical slang term,
because I really have not heard it before.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I've never heard that phrase before in my life. We
might I think.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Daniel's something to the left. I think Daniel's in Boston. Daniel,
what is that me? And you said I wrote a song?
He was like, I know we're gonna be all on
the same page, and I'm like, I don't know what
page were on, but I'm happy to turn it there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean, I think part of being on code is
knowing what anything means. That can mean being on colde.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, it's like you hip to it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know, you know what's up right right, what it is.
In the last episode when Trav was like go like
he just say go off Andrew, we said go off
Andrew or turn up Andrew.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Those mean the same thing. Nick turns Andrew's literal volume
up on the microphone, and Tips response to that was like,
I don't want everybody to know if it's called impact production.
I definitely want Nick to know. And I feel like
Nick can have an honorary black code, a black card,
especially during Wednesdays.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
During Wednesday's Nick gets a black card, but I mean
in general, because we put a lot of stuff out there.
But the thing about it is, we're so dope. You know,
we are a small percentage of the pocket reation. But
where we go, the whole world followed.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
We control the culture.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We took things from Africa, curated them here, and they
made their way back to Africa with Black American spin
on it. So we really have We drive conversation, we
drive culture, and so I think there is some danger
to exposing that. But the thing is, we're a bottomless
bucket of culture and dopeness and especialists, you know, of
(07:26):
fashion and dance and you know the things that we
carry with us on the boat.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So I you're come and made me think about centers,
that image of them.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
There is that maybe the first and last time, but
it's okay, We're going to survive this.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Moves dances we were never even taught. We were not
in our physical form, weren't taught. But the spirit of
the ancestors being so powerful, the movements manifest them through
us in a different day time condition. That just shows
how connected we are as a people. But more over,
(08:08):
how what we do than influences how everybody else moves, Yeah,
you know, that's a powerful scene.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
The thing that I thought about, and I don't want
to bypass this tip because I think, in this moment
we're in, it is so important you reference. There's some
things that you're basically saying, I just want to keep
for us. And there is also since Andrew reference Sinners,
and we've talked about talked about slavery as recently as
our last episode, I think it is important for people
(08:37):
to understand, since history is now our responsibility to teach
white America, since they want to dismantle the Smithsonian, to
help them understand that some of what is on code
in our language are the things that preserved our lives,
the things that helped us find a pathway to freedom
during slavery. Songs and scriptures that were quoted we were
using to literally give us the navigatational tools to get
(09:01):
to freedom. And so there's something in you that's saying, hey,
you know, in an ancestral memory way in my DNA,
there's something here that I want to protect. And I
don't think that that's inherently wrong at all. I actually
think that that's very smart to protect some of those things.
But also if there are well meaning allies and they
have proved themselves to be well meaning allies, there are
(09:23):
some things that they probably need to know so they
can help us. Because the things, Yeah, because we know
her math on math, there ain't enough of us. Coalition
requires we are going to have to build in some ways.
But I do hear you on some things should just
be protected for the culture.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, so maybe this might be one of them.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I had to text r J so I apologize for
the beings because she says this term. There was a
letter that came to the house that I was reading
and the girl was like you ate crumbs and left
no no you?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And I said, what did you eat in front of
these people?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Like why would she write that? And it makes no sense?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And then I went in to like chastise the writers,
saying like we don't teach our kids.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Any decorum anymore, like what's appropriate in a letter?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
What isn't that? Jay was like, what are you talking about?
I was like this young you know, the dance guy.
She's like, you ate and left no crumbs? Like that
doesn't make sense to me, and you know and whatever.
And Jay's like, Andrew, it's a compliment. It's a saying
that young people have.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Also, I feel like that's such a disconnect from culture,
you know.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Like why you are in my life?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
How are you so like because you are graduate, You're
in Florida around I.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Can be a graduate of any institution in Steel.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You live with j though, Like I don't.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
She tells me all the time, why is it that
I never follow.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Old man inside of himself?
Speaker 7 (10:48):
And I'm like, I think, like, I don't know your story, my.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Dad, and see if he knows what it means.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
I've never heard that term before in my life.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I want to call I kind of want to call
a pop riety. See what he said.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Let's get to the next of your question. Because we
do what we said, we wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Do another view of question.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah, how you doing a Native Lampard family. My name
is Jesse McCoy. I'm a clinical professor of law at
Duke University. But before that, I am a proud rattler
of Florida A and M where Andrew Gillen was my
SGA president. I have a question just about the pathway
to politics. We run into a lot of students who
(11:35):
either need to be involved in politics, or want to
be involved in politics, and I was just wondering if
there's an incubator of politicians or former politicians who can
advise those students about things like campaign finance and political strategy,
because I just have no idea how to even direct
(11:56):
them or where to direct them. Shout out to Angela,
rob and washing As you want see and then you
really did a great job representing for us Tiffany Cross
likewise on MSNBC, but even more so now on the show,
because I think you're the person that most relates to
how I feel in the current moment and wanting to
swing on people.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So Jesse, you ate and left no crumbs with that question? Uh, Andrew,
I mean you know when he was asking, I was
immediately thinking, do you want to say?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Do you want to answer Andrew?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I'm sorry, I thought you were okay, Andrew.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Andrew did not eat and left all the crimes.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
All the crimes. So since he left the crumbs, let's
eat him up. Tip they gonna let him cook, We're
not gonna let him cook.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Don't let them cook.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
So so there are a couple of things I wanted
to acknowledge on the actual subject of the question one. Andrew,
you are my forever SGA president too. Even though I
didn't go to FAM. When Andrew left FAM, he joined
people for the American Way, and I learned something called
the Young Elected Officials Network that not only pulled young
(13:05):
electeds together and gave them a home to strategize, to
think through how to become better leaders, but also really
developed an on ramp for them to run for higher office. Sadly,
one of the biggest failures of that program is Kirsten Cinema.
I digress that he's had many more successes. She also
did not eat and left all the crumbs tip. But
(13:26):
we also have the CBC Institute's boot Camp, and then
Collective Pack runs a program for folks who want to
run for office and who also want to run campaigns.
So I do want to just tout that there are
entities that are doing this work. We could always use more.
Mississippi Black Leadership Institute NBLI is one that has pumped out.
If you guys go through and look at the state
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and local elected officials in Mississippi, there are a ton
of black folks and that was not by mistake. It
was with great intention. So Andrew I always want to
give you the opportunity to shout you out for the
work that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You've done while you and I'm going to talk about
the specific program that I founded at People for Underneath,
the Young Elected Officials Network that did this campaign training,
and I turned away to look on my other computer
to research whether or not it still exists, and twenty
years later, the Frontline Leaders Academy is still going strong.
If y'all remember when we were with Jamal Bryant and
(14:20):
he said thank you for the letter of recommendation from.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
My wife Carrie.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Carrie went through this program, the Frontline Leaders Academy, and
at the end of it was the person chosen as
the most likely to be the candidate running for office.
She adn't run yet, so I'm gonna have to remind
her when I see her in Atlanta this weekend when we're.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Up there y'all, that she was a part of this program.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
But it's an excellent program that trains young people and
all people interested in run for office or being part
of a campaign apparatus. What it means to be a candidate,
campaign manager, finance director, field organizer, communications sists the core
competencies of what are required and it is of course
housed that people for the American Way Foundation based in
d C. And then sorry, update on the message I
(15:10):
just said, I told you she said the quote was
you ate, and I then later told you it was
you ate and left no crumbs. So what I was
responding to initially was you.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Ate and no context. I had no clue what the meant.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And you probably loses black cart.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I lose a black cart, but I ain't gonna win
no cards for what's in the in the in the
social media.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
At you got your black cart, but you losing your
own cold card. We got one last question that we
have time for, and I want to try to get
it in. So let's hear from this viewer.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
What's up.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
This is Craig again and coming out of Brooklyn, just
sitting on my stoop enjoying these last days of summer.
I'm just thinking about all the things that are happening
all around the country, especially in DC, where you know,
folks can't sit out on any stoopid like I'm doing
right now, just.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Enjoying life.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
In a moment. And I just want to say, this
is just a reminder to find those small moments that
bring you joy because things are pretty chaotic right now,
and I'm just hoping everybody is taking the time to
find joy.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Love you guys, hopeball as well.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
This is Craig Peace.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's just the guy who, after he asked this question,
y'all would like he find him a lot of dates
from that first Rag was like, I'm coming.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Back and I'm just gonna sit back on the stop
he ate he.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Ate And he left no crumbs.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
He was I couldn't even see him today. He had
a holy spotlight on him. Today.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
We're gonna have him turn around the next time and
then make the.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I do appreciate the messages find those moments of joy.
So if you guys, do you have any closing thoughts
on what you're doing to find those moments of joy?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
You know, I was when we were on last week.
I mentioned that I had a friend who like tragically
passed in a car accident, and I think there are
these moments where you realize how fleeting life is. You know,
there are other moments where my mom, as she goes
(17:34):
through chemo, she is constantly assessing like the fullness of
her life and whether it is indeed complete. Uh, And
you kind of contrast that with people who probably are
not expecting to go. And so the reminder is no
matter where you find yourself, even if you do think
(17:55):
you have tomorrow, especially you know, where as we're like
younger and your age, you get older, you think you're
in you think your parents are invincible, at least some
of us may. But I just I think that the
constant reminder is like we can choose joy in the
midst of everything that's going on. We can find those
pockets and hopefully lean into them. And that is the
greatest lesson I've learned from watching my mom and even
(18:17):
from losing Teddy last week. So that's what I would say.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
I love that, Andrew, do you have I would say
I'm probably increasing in my comfort, probably to a level
of discomfort for those around me and all the things
I don't know and I don't care that I don't know.
You know how sometimes you're like you're not hip to
something like we have just had with.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I was gonna say, this is just shade me and Angela.
That's not joy.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
It is joy. It is joy. It's joy in the
sense that I don't and you don't know a thing
and you don't care anymore like a lot of dance
at the at the at the at the thing, you know,
the who was who?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
What's the name of the organization? And every city that
has a party on Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
People, I remember that.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Yeah, day nights, I can't remember.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
It's it's Friday night.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah, Like the line dance, I don't want to know
the newest one and I don't even want to know.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Come on, Andrew, and.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's right, that that was your joy? That was fine?
Enjoy that you don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Fine, yes, I need enjoy that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You don't have the pressure of wanting to have to
learn it.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Fine, fair enough moments of joy, I will tell you
right now, I feel incredibly so much angst. I mean, DC,
it just is right outside my window, just everywhere you know,
a Union station is literally like tanks outside. It just
looks so ridiculous and unnecessarily so. So as I'm watching
(19:51):
us like trans transcend to this police state, it's uh,
just I don't know. I I'm in a constant state
of unrest. So my moments of joy is just when
I can calm down. And how I calm myself down
is inhale and then I exhale and however, you need
(20:13):
to inhale and exhale. I recommend you do that. I
mean breathing exercises for sure. Yes, and I am trying
different new types of therapy too. That part, that last
part is legit above board.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Goes high and also is trying the therapy is a
very important thing. The great thing.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You don't go I will I almost exactly exactly. Well,
thank you guys for tuning in to this mini pod.
If you happen to be in Atlanta, we will be
at investment in Atlanta. I mean, you know, you may
be hearing this after we've left Atlanta, whenever you decide
(21:00):
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But please be sure to tune into these mini pods.
You know, we have our main episode that drops on Thursdays.
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(21:20):
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how we how we ate and left no crumbs, and
how Andrew didn't cook.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I want to I want to apologize to y'all because
if this is really how I look in the podcast,
what Andrew is doing, I'm sorry. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You do look like that all the time.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Well, I'm so sorry. I'm going to work on it.
I really apologize, especially if it's happening, yeah, because i'd
be taking those But if it's happening and it's triggered.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Just that device working away, it's something more important. Conversation
is not true.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It only happens well, viewers, let us know what you
all observe.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Yeah, please, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Let us know what y'all observed. But this is also like,
you know, cut up so you don't always see Angel
on camera. We all see each other the whole podcast.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Which is frustrating.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, Well, if I had something shady to say to Andrew,
I would, but I'm not as quick as.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
It's so hard being green era.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
All right, on that note, Welcome home, y'all, and we
will see you soon.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Welcome home.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Home, y'all to this week's mini pod. So we had
a great show on our main episode this week with
Cherylyn Eiffel, and it was so good that you guys
sent in all these questions and comments, we did not
get a chance to get to them. So Angela, Andrew
and myself were here to try to get to as
many as possible. But you know, sometimes you guys ask
these questions and you take us down a rabbit hole
because your questions are so great or your comments are
(00:31):
so insightful. So we're gonna try to get to as
many as possible. So let's not waste any more time.
Roll us a question, turn.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Up, Nick Peace, Native Land Family. Daniel Rant, just checking in.
Just wanted to say the last episode was super, super dope.
It spoke to everything that I'm on with intention, and
everything you spoke about in the episode spoke to me
as a new thing that I'm on. I wrote a
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record called on Cold, and so everything you spoke about
to me was being on Cold. I would like to
know from each of you, what does on cold mean
to you?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And I think we will probably be aligned in our thoughts.
I would think, but what does that mean? Angela, Tiffany,
Andrew like, what does on cold mean?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Guys? I love this because Daniel is truly native Lampid fam.
Many of you all know that he wrote our intro music. Daniel,
It's always good to see you. He is definitely part
of the family because he was like, Hey, y'all, since
I'm co hosting the show today, what is on now?
I don't know if you're saying on cold or on
is on cold?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Like Cood on cold, So I don't know what that means. Well,
because you're not on COLDE got it?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Definitely not on Code?
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Which show were we talking about? That was that?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think because he talked about Landy it could have
been that that show when we talked about Landy was
the designer, the black designer who we had on talking
about where we spend our money. But all of our
shows are on Code. I'm adopting it.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Because you know we about a cold.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Life, we about that on Code. We say that means?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Does that mean that he might be saying what you
were saying? On the last show tip, which was, you know,
there are certain things that should be for us, like
we should have our own cold. Like here's on code.
I got a perfect one, Andrew. You got to look
for this ready, y'all will know watch.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yes Egg precisely.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
You don't have to say, Andrew just on code. Yes.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Yeahbody in the community might not be on code if
they're not in.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
The community figured out.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Right, And if I say something to you, you don't
really know what I'm talking about. I'm kind of looking
at you. Signway, so I have another one.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I have another one.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, give us another.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
One, Andrew. You have to look the problem. Part of
the issue is it is Andrew's writing a whole. I
don't know what you.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Doing, Andrew, what are you doing over there?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I was?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I was imitating uh, Angela during any normal recording.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know Angela, you do, y'all. Angela does the same thing.
She always liked that.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Look at my notes.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I take you, okay, but you gotta get on cold.
You gotta get on cold.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I have to get on memory first, and then I'll
get on cold. Now here's my second encode moment. And
then you guys have to play your aids. I guess
that's what this is so sad for people who are
not watching it. I'll tell you what I'm doing afterwards. Okay,
so here's another one. Okay, see if you know what
I'm saying, obviously please Okay, So what I did was
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a side I would like my lips pursed for those Well.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The first thing she did was like they have a
certain type of head nod. But it wasn't a head
nod like Top of the morning to you.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
It wasn't. It wasn't a yes, It was a yes,
flick that thing up like you do like head.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Yeah. It's like, yes, that statement is true, but you
don't follow it.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Oh you're talking back to the eyes. This is why
I back to the anyway, this is not going to
work for true.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
That That was my interpretation of it.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It was like, yeah, you're sticking your head like uh huh.
We all know it's true, but you the last one
that should be calling it out because you don't do it,
you know, so like the person who's.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
But that was something we we went back to the
to the head.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Not both of them. I think both of them are
on cold. You doing something else that's on cold. If
we were all together and any one of them got
up and started running.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Oh yes, God started running. If we running, the table's falling.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
It's like, oh.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, said got up?
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Nobody get up?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay. I have a question for the viewers. What what
is on Cold to you guys? And it has to
be something that you can You can drop a video
if you want, or you can drop it in the comments,
because we've been saying that we were going to talk
about different phrases and dialects from different geographical regions. And
we have a wonderful book that we're going to use
to explore that. So stay tuned. That's going to be
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on the minipop coming up.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
What was his name?
Speaker 6 (05:14):
And Jared Hill is Darren Hill?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
This great book. It's on my coffee table. I love it,
So we will that's a future historical.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Historically black Dared Hill and Treville Anderson.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I love it. But for so we're gonna that's a
future episode. For now. I'm curious what is on Code
to you guys? It can be a gesture, It could
be something we say, but something that you know, like, oh, okay,
we're on COLDE.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Are we all together? Are we in unison? Are we
in alignment? Also, it's on code a geographical slang term,
because I really have not heard it before.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I've never heard that phrase before in my life. We
might I think.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Daniel's something to the left. I think Daniel's in Boston. Daniel,
what is that me? And you said I wrote a song?
He was like, I know we're gonna be all on
the same page, and I'm like, I don't know what
page were on, but I'm happy to turn it there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean, I think part of being on code is
knowing what anything means. That can mean being on colde.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, it's like you hip to it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know, you know what's up right right, what it is.
In the last episode when Trav was like go like
he just say go off Andrew, we said go off
Andrew or turn up Andrew.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Those mean the same thing. Nick turns Andrew's literal volume
up on the microphone, and Tips response to that was like,
I don't want everybody to know if it's called impact production.
I definitely want Nick to know. And I feel like
Nick can have an honorary black code, a black card,
especially during Wednesdays.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Nick.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
During Wednesday's Nick gets a black card, but I mean
in general, because we put a lot of stuff out there.
But the thing about it is, we're so dope. You know,
we are a small percentage of the pocket reation. But
where we go, the whole world followed.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
We control the culture.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We took things from Africa, curated them here, and they
made their way back to Africa with Black American spin
on it. So we really have We drive conversation, we
drive culture, and so I think there is some danger
to exposing that. But the thing is, we're a bottomless
bucket of culture and dopeness and especialists, you know, of
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fashion and dance and you know the things that we
carry with us on the boat.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So I you're come and made me think about centers,
that image of them.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
There is that maybe the first and last time, but
it's okay, We're going to survive this.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Moves dances we were never even taught. We were not
in our physical form, weren't taught. But the spirit of
the ancestors being so powerful, the movements manifest them through
us in a different day time condition. That just shows
how connected we are as a people. But more over,
(08:08):
how what we do than influences how everybody else moves, Yeah,
you know, that's a powerful scene.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
I loved it.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
The thing that I thought about, and I don't want
to bypass this tip because I think, in this moment
we're in, it is so important you reference. There's some
things that you're basically saying, I just want to keep
for us. And there is also since Andrew reference Sinners,
and we've talked about talked about slavery as recently as
our last episode, I think it is important for people
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to understand, since history is now our responsibility to teach
white America, since they want to dismantle the Smithsonian, to
help them understand that some of what is on code
in our language are the things that preserved our lives,
the things that helped us find a pathway to freedom
during slavery. Songs and scriptures that were quoted we were
using to literally give us the navigatational tools to get
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to freedom. And so there's something in you that's saying, hey,
you know, in an ancestral memory way in my DNA,
there's something here that I want to protect. And I
don't think that that's inherently wrong at all. I actually
think that that's very smart to protect some of those things.
But also if there are well meaning allies and they
have proved themselves to be well meaning allies, there are
(09:23):
some things that they probably need to know so they
can help us. Because the things, Yeah, because we know
her math on math, there ain't enough of us. Coalition
requires we are going to have to build in some ways.
But I do hear you on some things should just
be protected for the culture.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah, so maybe this might be one of them.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I had to text r J so I apologize for
the beings because she says this term. There was a
letter that came to the house that I was reading
and the girl was like you ate crumbs and left
no no you?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And I said, what did you eat in front of
these people?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Like why would she write that? And it makes no sense?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And then I went in to like chastise the writers,
saying like we don't teach our kids.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Any decorum anymore, like what's appropriate in a letter?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
What isn't that? Jay was like, what are you talking about?
I was like this young you know, the dance guy.
She's like, you ate and left no crumbs? Like that
doesn't make sense to me, and you know and whatever.
And Jay's like, Andrew, it's a compliment. It's a saying
that young people have.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Also, I feel like that's such a disconnect from culture,
you know.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Like why you are in my life?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
How are you so like because you are graduate, You're
in Florida around I.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Can be a graduate of any institution in Steel.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
You live with j though, Like I don't.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
She tells me all the time, why is it that
I never follow.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Old man inside of himself?
Speaker 7 (10:48):
And I'm like, I think, like, I don't know your story, my.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Dad, and see if he knows what it means.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
I've never heard that term before in my life.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I want to call I kind of want to call
a pop riety. See what he said.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Let's get to the next of your question. Because we
do what we said, we wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Do another view of question.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah, how you doing a Native Lampard family. My name
is Jesse McCoy. I'm a clinical professor of law at
Duke University. But before that, I am a proud rattler
of Florida A and M where Andrew Gillen was my
SGA president. I have a question just about the pathway
to politics. We run into a lot of students who
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either need to be involved in politics, or want to
be involved in politics, and I was just wondering if
there's an incubator of politicians or former politicians who can
advise those students about things like campaign finance and political strategy,
because I just have no idea how to even direct
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them or where to direct them. Shout out to Angela,
rob and washing As you want see and then you
really did a great job representing for us Tiffany Cross
likewise on MSNBC, but even more so now on the show,
because I think you're the person that most relates to
how I feel in the current moment and wanting to
swing on people.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So Jesse, you ate and left no crumbs with that question? Uh, Andrew,
I mean you know when he was asking, I was
immediately thinking, do you want to say?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Do you want to answer Andrew?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I'm sorry, I thought you were okay, Andrew.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Andrew did not eat and left all the crimes.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
All the crimes. So since he left the crumbs, let's
eat him up. Tip they gonna let him cook, We're
not gonna let him cook.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Don't let them cook.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
So so there are a couple of things I wanted
to acknowledge on the actual subject of the question one. Andrew,
you are my forever SGA president too. Even though I
didn't go to FAM. When Andrew left FAM, he joined
people for the American Way, and I learned something called
the Young Elected Officials Network that not only pulled young
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electeds together and gave them a home to strategize, to
think through how to become better leaders, but also really
developed an on ramp for them to run for higher office. Sadly,
one of the biggest failures of that program is Kirsten Cinema.
I digress that he's had many more successes. She also
did not eat and left all the crumbs tip. But
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we also have the CBC Institute's boot Camp, and then
Collective Pack runs a program for folks who want to
run for office and who also want to run campaigns.
So I do want to just tout that there are
entities that are doing this work. We could always use more.
Mississippi Black Leadership Institute NBLI is one that has pumped out.
If you guys go through and look at the state
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and local elected officials in Mississippi, there are a ton
of black folks and that was not by mistake. It
was with great intention. So Andrew I always want to
give you the opportunity to shout you out for the
work that.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You've done while you and I'm going to talk about
the specific program that I founded at People for Underneath,
the Young Elected Officials Network that did this campaign training,
and I turned away to look on my other computer
to research whether or not it still exists, and twenty
years later, the Frontline Leaders Academy is still going strong.
If y'all remember when we were with Jamal Bryant and
(14:20):
he said thank you for the letter of recommendation from.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
My wife Carrie.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Carrie went through this program, the Frontline Leaders Academy, and
at the end of it was the person chosen as
the most likely to be the candidate running for office.
She adn't run yet, so I'm gonna have to remind
her when I see her in Atlanta this weekend when we're.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Up there y'all, that she was a part of this program.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
But it's an excellent program that trains young people and
all people interested in run for office or being part
of a campaign apparatus. What it means to be a candidate,
campaign manager, finance director, field organizer, communications sists the core
competencies of what are required and it is of course
housed that people for the American Way Foundation based in
d C. And then sorry, update on the message I
(15:10):
just said, I told you she said the quote was
you ate, and I then later told you it was
you ate and left no crumbs. So what I was
responding to initially was you.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Ate and no context. I had no clue what the meant.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And you probably loses black cart.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I lose a black cart, but I ain't gonna win
no cards for what's in the in the in the
social media.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
At you got your black cart, but you losing your
own cold card. We got one last question that we
have time for, and I want to try to get
it in. So let's hear from this viewer.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
What's up.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
This is Craig again and coming out of Brooklyn, just
sitting on my stoop enjoying these last days of summer.
I'm just thinking about all the things that are happening
all around the country, especially in DC, where you know,
folks can't sit out on any stoopid like I'm doing
right now, just.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Enjoying life.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
In a moment. And I just want to say, this
is just a reminder to find those small moments that
bring you joy because things are pretty chaotic right now,
and I'm just hoping everybody is taking the time to
find joy.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Love you guys, hopeball as well.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
This is Craig Peace.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's just the guy who, after he asked this question,
y'all would like he find him a lot of dates
from that first Rag was like, I'm coming.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Back and I'm just gonna sit back on the stop
he ate he.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Ate And he left no crumbs.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
He was I couldn't even see him today. He had
a holy spotlight on him. Today.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
We're gonna have him turn around the next time and
then make the.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I do appreciate the messages find those moments of joy.
So if you guys, do you have any closing thoughts
on what you're doing to find those moments of joy?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
You know, I was when we were on last week.
I mentioned that I had a friend who like tragically
passed in a car accident, and I think there are
these moments where you realize how fleeting life is. You know,
there are other moments where my mom, as she goes
(17:34):
through chemo, she is constantly assessing like the fullness of
her life and whether it is indeed complete. Uh, And
you kind of contrast that with people who probably are
not expecting to go. And so the reminder is no
matter where you find yourself, even if you do think
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you have tomorrow, especially you know, where as we're like
younger and your age, you get older, you think you're
in you think your parents are invincible, at least some
of us may. But I just I think that the
constant reminder is like we can choose joy in the
midst of everything that's going on. We can find those
pockets and hopefully lean into them. And that is the
greatest lesson I've learned from watching my mom and even
(18:17):
from losing Teddy last week. So that's what I would say.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
I love that, Andrew, do you have I would say
I'm probably increasing in my comfort, probably to a level
of discomfort for those around me and all the things
I don't know and I don't care that I don't know.
You know how sometimes you're like you're not hip to
something like we have just had with.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I was gonna say, this is just shade me and Angela.
That's not joy.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
It is joy. It is joy. It's joy in the
sense that I don't and you don't know a thing
and you don't care anymore like a lot of dance
at the at the at the at the thing, you know,
the who was who?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
What's the name of the organization? And every city that
has a party on Saturday night.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
People, I remember that.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Yeah, day nights, I can't remember.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
It's it's Friday night.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah, Like the line dance, I don't want to know
the newest one and I don't even want to know.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Come on, Andrew, and.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's right, that that was your joy? That was fine?
Enjoy that you don't know.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Fine, yes, I need enjoy that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You don't have the pressure of wanting to have to
learn it.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Fine, fair enough moments of joy, I will tell you
right now, I feel incredibly so much angst. I mean, DC,
it just is right outside my window, just everywhere you know,
a Union station is literally like tanks outside. It just
looks so ridiculous and unnecessarily so. So as I'm watching
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us like trans transcend to this police state, it's uh,
just I don't know. I I'm in a constant state
of unrest. So my moments of joy is just when
I can calm down. And how I calm myself down
is inhale and then I exhale and however, you need
(20:13):
to inhale and exhale. I recommend you do that. I
mean breathing exercises for sure. Yes, and I am trying
different new types of therapy too. That part, that last
part is legit above board.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Goes high and also is trying the therapy is a
very important thing. The great thing.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You don't go I will I almost exactly exactly. Well,
thank you guys for tuning in to this mini pod.
If you happen to be in Atlanta, we will be
at investment in Atlanta. I mean, you know, you may
be hearing this after we've left Atlanta, whenever you decide
(21:00):
to listen to Native Land Mini Pod, but we will
be headed to the a so we may see you there.
But please be sure to tune into these mini pods.
You know, we have our main episode that drops on Thursdays.
Mini pods drop on Fridays. You can catch Angela solo
pod most Tuesdays except on those very precious days that
we're very happy to see her get some rest. So
(21:20):
thank you guys for tuning in. Please share this, spread
the word, get on cold and tell people about Native
Land Mini Pods, because that's the part of me and
how we how we ate and left no crumbs, and
how Andrew didn't cook.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I want to I want to apologize to y'all because
if this is really how I look in the podcast,
what Andrew is doing, I'm sorry. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You do look like that all the time.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Well, I'm so sorry. I'm going to work on it.
I really apologize, especially if it's happening, yeah, because i'd
be taking those But if it's happening and it's triggered.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Just that device working away, it's something more important. Conversation
is not true.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
It only happens well, viewers, let us know what you
all observe.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Yeah, please, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Let us know what y'all observed. But this is also like,
you know, cut up so you don't always see Angel
on camera. We all see each other the whole podcast.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Which is frustrating.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, Well, if I had something shady to say to Andrew,
I would, but I'm not as quick as.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
It's so hard being green era.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
All right, on that note, Welcome home, y'all, and we
will see you soon.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Welcome home.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
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