February 25, 2025 • 21 mins
Trump fires top Black general and installs unqualified loyalists to key positions. The end of DEI and the myth of meritocracy.
Four-Star General CQ Brown Jr. was the top military officer, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, until he was fired last Friday by president Trump via a social media post. Apparently Brown was too “woke” for the Trump admin–and he just so happens to be Black.
THREE-Star LIEUTENANT General Dan Caine has been promoted as Brown’s replacement. Now, why is a less qualified (and retired) general being tapped to replace General Brown in this prestigious position? It couldn’t have anything to do with the fact that he’s white, could it?
Using examples, like the recent promotion of MAGA podcaster Dan Bongino, Angela Rye exposes the hypocrisy of MAGA when they promote the end of DEI as the return of “meritocracy.” There will be serious consequences to promoting unqualified individuals to positions of power.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership
with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home, everybody.
Quite literally, today, I am at my parents' home because
for some reason, my power is out. I believe it's
because it's the last and evil days and the wind
(00:22):
definitely blew the power out. So I'm coming to you
live for my parents and for those of you who
have been asking. My mom is doing really well. She
had her first treatment, chemo treatment yesterday and she is thriving.
That is a strong lady, So continue to keep her
in your prayers and your thoughts. Today we are talking
about something that is really really important. I know for
(00:44):
so many people in this country, particularly Black folks, it
is so important that we talk about something that a
lot of us were raised with. So there's a saying
in the black community that we have to be we
would have to work twice as hard and we have
to be twice as good. So for a lot of us,
this DEI conversation is particularly triggering because it's something that
(01:07):
we grew up knowing that we actually couldn't be not
as good as and couldn't not compete and couldn't put
our best before we had to. So when people talk
about DEI, which is diversity, equity and inclusion, and the
weaponization of that, that's something that is particularly triggering to
a lot of us. There are some examples of that
(01:29):
this week that I really want to get into because
if there was ever an administration that had people who
were not as qualified, it is absolutely this one. So
we're going to get into that, and I really want
to talk about that through the lens of the myths
of meritocracy. So that's where I wanted to be today.
So the first thing is I really wanted to just
(01:49):
take a step back and talk about this argument around merit.
You're hearing a lot of people in the ecosystem talking
about what it means to, you know, earn you spot
and to not get a handout, and you know, people
have to work hard. And there's this reverse discrimination happening
against white Anglo Saxon Christian men, and when you look
(02:11):
at what Donald Trump is putting into place for civil
rights protections, you might think that is true. However, it
is obviously blatantly false. There's not a lot of reverse
discrimination happening around here, y'all, And just in a matter
of weeks, he's almost even in Black History Month, taken
us back to plus e versus Ferguson times, which is
essentially not separate but equal, which is what the Supreme
(02:35):
Court rule. But it's actually separate and vastly unequal. So
that's where we are right now, and I really want
us to lean into that through the lens of some
of Donald Trump's most recent appointments. So again meritis idea
that you earn your position, that if you work hard,
your work will speak for itself and the doors will
(02:56):
open to you. Well, what does it mean when racism
stands in that door? Or what does it mean when
somebody's connections daddy's connections, I don't know, like Fred Trump
for Donald Trump, or somebody's trust fund makes the way
for you or your mom or daddy made a call
on your behalf. And in full disclosure, there are instances
(03:16):
where my parents have made calls on my behalf, and
I know that's the point of privilege. That's not a
moment where I earn something. That's a moment where those
connections come into play. When we think about legacy admissions
in college, that is about having some connections that's about
your parents working hard and being able to open a
door for you. I think parents opening doors is not
necessarily bad. But when you are literally taking opportunities from
(03:40):
people who are overwhelmingly qualified and deserve to be in
those positions, we're talking about something different. We're not talking
about legacy admissions here today. We are not talking about
folks of color who have earned their positions but get
blanketed as DEI because they've demonized it. We're actually talking
about folks who are beneficial of white supremacy and the
(04:01):
systems that follow it. Caset indpoint. So, just last week,
Donald Trump decided to fire a four star Air Force
general by the name of Charles C. Q. Brown. He
served as the chairman for the Joint chiefs of Staff.
It is a pretty important role for those of you
(04:21):
who don't know. The Joint chiefs of Staff is the
primary advisor to the President of the United States, the
National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, and to the
Secretary Secretary of Defense. So this person has to have
a working knowledge of how military systems work, particularly uniform personnel.
(04:45):
It is a very very important role. Well, it just
so happens that up until the end of last week,
we had a black man who was serving as the
second ever black man Joint chiefs of Staff chairman. He
had forty years of service. I'm going to just tell
you some highlights from his bio and forty years of
(05:07):
service he served. He went to Texas Tech, served as
a US Air Force fighter. He was a command pilot
with more than thirty one hundred flight hours, and he
was serving in this capacity since twenty twenty. Well, what
(05:27):
happened is he was apparently too woke for them, right.
They think anything that is race conscious is woke. They
think that anything that pays attention to race in our
diversity is problematic because for whatever reason, we should be
ambiguous and not really care because somehow race is weaponized
when we just highlight race to them. So they decided
(05:48):
to fire this four star Air Force general and replace
him with a man named John kin They call him
John raising Kane. He's a lieutenant general. And for those
of our our military officers know that these are a
military person I'll know that there is a difference between
a general and a lieutenant general. So just our phase value,
(06:08):
here's the face. Here's the face, just off phase value alone.
Our general outranks the lieutenant general. So lieutenant general uh
cain is what's so funny? Is you guys, I'm looking
at this. This is hilarious. So on the actual official website,
oh my god, it says Lieutenant Lieutenant General John D.
(06:31):
Kin and then it just skips down to Lieutenant Lieutenant
General Dan Kane. I'm assuming he goes by Dan Kane,
but we know is he goes by raising Kine. I
think they have a typo on this site. I wonder
what the real DEI is because they got typos on
this site, they better get it right. This man is
a three star right, he's a three star general. He
(06:53):
worked at the CIA as the Associate Director for Military Affairs.
He was most recently the Director of Special Programs and
the Department Special Sorry in the Department of Defense Special
Access Program Central Office, and he served as a Principal
staff Assistant an advisor to the Secretary of Defense there.
(07:14):
This man has now been promoted to the Joint Chiefs
of Staff Chairman. Now what I think is interesting here
is while he's more qualified than your Secretary of Defense,
Pete heg Sath, and he advises Pete Heath which I
think you can determine in terms of rank, that means
(07:36):
Pete hex Seth outranks him. Right. What is interesting about
this is that they are constantly making merit arguments and
claiming that DEI or diversity, Equity and Inclusion means that
somebody got a door opened for them that was not
deserved on qualifications, just on face value. You guys can
go and look at these biles yourselves online on the
(08:00):
official military websites to see what they're talking about. CQ
Brown outranks and is more qualified than John D. Game. Okay,
so that's the first thing that I wanted to talk about.
The second thing is the FBI. So, and this is
important because again a lot of us have fallen into
(08:20):
these traps around DEI meaning that folks didn't earn it. Now,
there are people who didn't earn it, and I'm going
to get into that with this FBI nomination. But it's
not black people. Like you can't look at somebody that's
a person in college just be like, oh, you didn't
earn it because you black sid in this role. That's ridiculous.
Like you should look at people's bios, their resumes, their qualification,
(08:44):
their gifts their talents and make a decision from that way.
But now we're finding ourselves on the defense trying to
prove that we belong when that's not ours to prove.
You need to prove while we don't belong. And instead
what's happening is a lot of corporations, company schools, universities,
federal government agencies are taking a page out of Donald
(09:06):
Trump's playbook and dismantling programs that are serving people well
and are balancing the skills of justice that have not
been balanced for so long in this country. They're still
not so even while I'm talking to you about this
military rank and joint chiefs of staff chairmen and getting
ready to get into FBI, these are entities that many
(09:28):
of my peers, me included, don't necessarily love. Like I'm not,
you know, an FBI champion. I'm not about to go
cut an FBI ad or do a billboard. But what
I can say to you is it's important for us
to understand that there should still be qualified folks working
on the nation's behalf in national security entities. So the
(09:59):
FBI cash Bettel was narrowly nominated last week. As you
all know well there's another guy. You guys probably are
like Dan Bogino, Dan Bongino, his name sounds familiar. Well,
it's not because he's this high ranking officer in the
intel community. It's not because he served so many presidents
(10:23):
in the past. Although he has served some presidents. I
will give him that as the form of a secret
service officer, including for a president Barack Obama. But you
probably know his name because he's a popular podcaster. This
popular podcaster is your deputy director for the FBI. Now
here's why that is astounding. The deputy director of the
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FBI has traditionally been a position that was reserved for
a career official. What does that mean? So in the
United States government, there's something called appointed officials, and of
course there are elected officials, but there are appointed officials
in the administration who work under the president and vice
president appointed, and then there are career career service are
(11:10):
folks who have engaged in work for the government, not
as a part of any partisan any party. So it's
not a partisan, no partisan affiliation. They are doing this
in service to the American public, doing this on behalf
of their country, regardless of who is at the top
of the ticket. Or who regardless of who the president is.
(11:30):
So normally the FBI hires someone in that role, that
is that has had a career of serving in an
intel capacity, serving in the FBI, etc. So Don Mangino
has Dan Bongino. By the way, I got caught up
in Madon's and Madan's today. Dan Bongino is someone who
(11:52):
has called the FBI irredeemably corrupt. He has no experience
as an officer in intel other than being a other
than being a Secret Service Agency agent, which doesn't in
and of itself mean you're not qualified. But it is
(12:12):
remarkable and unprecedented. That's the word that you're gonna hear
thrown around a lot. For those of us that remember
when Donald Trump was elected in twenty sixteen, that's where
we said all the time. Now he said unprecedented, like
unpresident the president. But I'm saying unpress sedented because they're
doing a lot of things that are not normal. So
(12:33):
this is someone who is a media personality, he's a
former Secret Service agent. He does not have any experience
with the FBI, and they're putting him in here after
saying that the thing is, you know, irredeemably corrupt. I'm
sure there are many of us who hear that language
and aren't alarmed by it. But I think what's remarkable
is he doesn't have any experience to determine where the
(12:55):
corruption comes from, what system needs to be dismantled, what
system needs to be looked into. What you know, who
can be the real watchdog for the FBI? That probably
ain't Dan's role. And speaking of watchdogs, this is a
also the administration that has gotten rid of a lot
of inspector generals. I think there are at least ten
(13:17):
now that are gone, so they don't want any watchdogs. Nonetheless,
he is the deputy director of the FBI now, he
does not have to be Senate confirmed. This is an
appointment that Donald Trump can just make, and their responsibility
is to supervise domestic and international operations with no FBI experience.
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So my question for you all today really is for
us to consider who really didn't earn it? What does
it really mean to dismantle DEI it sounds like we
should be this mantling these same tired systems that put
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white men. Although I think y'all, don't you kind of
think Dan is I think Dan is a brother. I
think he might be black, which would make this even
worse because now they're putting them in a position that
he don't have no business in to be Like, see,
black people didn't earn it. Y'all picked him. Okay, we
didn't pick him, But I just want to say I
think that what is remarkable here is that we have
this opportunity to really examine who really didn't earn it
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and when we say these things, when you compare resumes,
and what is typical, and why it isn't the best
national security interests of the country to have someone who
understands how those systems work, particularly when you're engaging in
operations with foreign adversaries or people who are on domestic
soil trying to compromise our national security. If you have
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no experience in doing that, what are we talking about,
Like y'all see, I wouldn't earn it if y'all hired
me to go run engineering at Google. That's not my expertise.
You can't just put plug and play any white guy
to fill a role of influence in this government and
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not expect for that thing to completely break. And then
that begs the question, maybe they know after all that
they didn't earn it, and they're totally fine with breaking
systems because they don't want the system to be here anyway.
And if they've anointed Donald Trump as king, we end
up right where we started. So I think that is
which is this is an unprecedented time. I think what
(15:35):
we have to acknowledge is that the weaponization of diversity, equity,
and inclusion is a method to distract us from what
really is going on. And what really is going on
is Donald Trump is trying to give favors back to
people who carried his water doing this during this election,
(15:56):
even if that means putting the entire country in harm's way.
If that isn't didn't earn it, I don't know what
is that is the opposite of meritocracy. The face of
meritocracy and black excellence for the rest of his Black
History Month and the rest it is black here is
gonna be Charles c. Q. Brown. The face of didn't
earn it is gonna be Pete Hackseth. It's gonna be
(16:18):
Dan Bongino, and it's gonna be Dan not don Kine,
a lieutenant general that replaced a general for no reason.
He I promoted with no experience having done the same
things that Charles c Q Brown has done. And Charles
c q Brown was beloved. So that's all I got today.
I talked a long time. Let me see what these
(16:38):
questions are. Somebody said, was Joy Anne fired as a
part of DEI reform? You know, I'm gonna tell you this.
I think that nobody black on mainstream television right now
is safe. I think that a lot of people are
(16:59):
made concessions to Donald Trump and his policies, trying to
ensure that they don't get fined. Because he's technically the
new FCC chairman. He has decided that he is going
to run the FCC, the FTC, and the SEC. Okay
if in order for him to run the Federal Communications Mission,
he's going to make sure that there's nobody that's criticizing
(17:20):
him on air. And I think that we are going
to see many of these systems begin to unravel. I
think that Joy Read was one of his biggest threats.
How do I know that because as soon as he
learned that Joy was no longer at MSNBC, his response
was finally, which means that Joy was on his radar.
And so what we have to be aware of is
as people take out black folks and Latino folks, and
(17:43):
Asian folks and women and indigenous folks, as they take
folks out under the auspices of we want to play safe,
we want to make sure our business is successful. What
they need to know is they're actually undermining their business.
What they need to know is they're actually putting Americans
in harms way. What they need to know is they're
actually putting folks in the international, our greater global community
(18:04):
in harm's way because there's nobody there to tell their stories. Now,
I'm gonna tell you something that might be unpopular. We
started turning TV off, TV off because we know that
these media conglomerates don't want to tell these stories. That's
why it's important for you to tune in to podcasts
like ours. I know Joy's gonna be dropping soon something soon.
You need to tune into Joyce show on what she
does next. Check her out on substack on all social
(18:26):
media platforms right now, it's important to listen to shows
like Roland's Brittany. So many other people, Aaron, our friend, Aaron,
so many other people who are doing amazing, amazing work
informing you raw and unfiltered, because now, in order to
be on mainstream media, you're gonna have to make some concessions,
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and they haven't maybe some of them haven't had to
make them yet, but they are going to have to
make them soon. And that, my friends, is what is
going to put us in very very precarious positions and
in harm's way. So we've got to pay attention to this.
It's not DEI that they're trying to dismantle. It's not
even just the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four
(19:09):
that they're trying to dismantle. What they're doing is trying
to dismantle the fourteenth Amendment, which gives us all equal
protection under the law. That's the thing that black folks
could lean up against after slavery to say that we
are indeed free and we are somebody we are in
fact citizens, despite what they said in the dread Scott ruling.
Those are the things that we have to know. So
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as they try to dial us back, not even just
to Jim Crow, but to before Jim Crow, we have
to pay attention. We have to call a thing a thing,
and we've got to make sure that we're given accurate information,
and we'll do that by any means necessary, no matter
what he tries to take out. So it may be
a little scary, but we're going to keep pushing. And
(19:51):
on that note, that's all I have for you all today.
Thank you all for your questions. I'll answer some other
ones online. Make sure you tune in on Thursday. That's
our main show, Native Lampod where we always give it
to your real the best we got. We'd be fighting
in there, but it's so good and we love to
hear you ask questions in your comments, make sure you're
(20:11):
sending those in. And lastly, my good brother Andrew Gillum
started his solo pods yesterday on Monday. It went very
very well. He's talking to y'all about how to make
sure that we're organizing for the fascist regime that we
are now living in. You've got to watch that show.
Get organized, organize your communities. We don't know how long
we'll have social media systems. We don't know how long
(20:32):
we'll be able to upload on YouTube. We don't know
how long the power y'all to power grid got attacked
in my neighborhood today. We don't know how long we're
gonna have these things so make sure you're organizing people,
human bodies, getting phone numbers, develop a phone tree, your churches,
your other places of worship, your friend groups, get organized
so we don't find ourselves isolated. Okay, we can make it.
(20:55):
And take it from a true soldier. It's not me,
it's Mama Rah. She looked at the care today and
she said, cancer ain't got nothing on me, and neither
does this fascist. Let's go, y'all, Welcome home. Native Lampard
(21:21):
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Quite literally, today, I am at my parents' home because
for some reason, my power is out. I believe it's
because it's the last and evil days and the wind
(00:22):
definitely blew the power out. So I'm coming to you
live for my parents and for those of you who
have been asking. My mom is doing really well. She
had her first treatment, chemo treatment yesterday and she is thriving.
That is a strong lady, So continue to keep her
in your prayers and your thoughts. Today we are talking
about something that is really really important. I know for
(00:44):
so many people in this country, particularly Black folks, it
is so important that we talk about something that a
lot of us were raised with. So there's a saying
in the black community that we have to be we
would have to work twice as hard and we have
to be twice as good. So for a lot of us,
this DEI conversation is particularly triggering because it's something that
(01:07):
we grew up knowing that we actually couldn't be not
as good as and couldn't not compete and couldn't put
our best before we had to. So when people talk
about DEI, which is diversity, equity and inclusion, and the
weaponization of that, that's something that is particularly triggering to
a lot of us. There are some examples of that
(01:29):
this week that I really want to get into because
if there was ever an administration that had people who
were not as qualified, it is absolutely this one. So
we're going to get into that, and I really want
to talk about that through the lens of the myths
of meritocracy. So that's where I wanted to be today.
So the first thing is I really wanted to just
(01:49):
take a step back and talk about this argument around merit.
You're hearing a lot of people in the ecosystem talking
about what it means to, you know, earn you spot
and to not get a handout, and you know, people
have to work hard. And there's this reverse discrimination happening
against white Anglo Saxon Christian men, and when you look
(02:11):
at what Donald Trump is putting into place for civil
rights protections, you might think that is true. However, it
is obviously blatantly false. There's not a lot of reverse
discrimination happening around here, y'all, And just in a matter
of weeks, he's almost even in Black History Month, taken
us back to plus e versus Ferguson times, which is
essentially not separate but equal, which is what the Supreme
(02:35):
Court rule. But it's actually separate and vastly unequal. So
that's where we are right now, and I really want
us to lean into that through the lens of some
of Donald Trump's most recent appointments. So again meritis idea
that you earn your position, that if you work hard,
your work will speak for itself and the doors will
(02:56):
open to you. Well, what does it mean when racism
stands in that door? Or what does it mean when
somebody's connections daddy's connections, I don't know, like Fred Trump
for Donald Trump, or somebody's trust fund makes the way
for you or your mom or daddy made a call
on your behalf. And in full disclosure, there are instances
(03:16):
where my parents have made calls on my behalf, and
I know that's the point of privilege. That's not a
moment where I earn something. That's a moment where those
connections come into play. When we think about legacy admissions
in college, that is about having some connections that's about
your parents working hard and being able to open a
door for you. I think parents opening doors is not
necessarily bad. But when you are literally taking opportunities from
(03:40):
people who are overwhelmingly qualified and deserve to be in
those positions, we're talking about something different. We're not talking
about legacy admissions here today. We are not talking about
folks of color who have earned their positions but get
blanketed as DEI because they've demonized it. We're actually talking
about folks who are beneficial of white supremacy and the
(04:01):
systems that follow it. Caset indpoint. So, just last week,
Donald Trump decided to fire a four star Air Force
general by the name of Charles C. Q. Brown. He
served as the chairman for the Joint chiefs of Staff.
It is a pretty important role for those of you
(04:21):
who don't know. The Joint chiefs of Staff is the
primary advisor to the President of the United States, the
National Security Council, the Homeland Security Council, and to the
Secretary Secretary of Defense. So this person has to have
a working knowledge of how military systems work, particularly uniform personnel.
(04:45):
It is a very very important role. Well, it just
so happens that up until the end of last week,
we had a black man who was serving as the
second ever black man Joint chiefs of Staff chairman. He
had forty years of service. I'm going to just tell
you some highlights from his bio and forty years of
(05:07):
service he served. He went to Texas Tech, served as
a US Air Force fighter. He was a command pilot
with more than thirty one hundred flight hours, and he
was serving in this capacity since twenty twenty. Well, what
(05:27):
happened is he was apparently too woke for them, right.
They think anything that is race conscious is woke. They
think that anything that pays attention to race in our
diversity is problematic because for whatever reason, we should be
ambiguous and not really care because somehow race is weaponized
when we just highlight race to them. So they decided
(05:48):
to fire this four star Air Force general and replace
him with a man named John kin They call him
John raising Kane. He's a lieutenant general. And for those
of our our military officers know that these are a
military person I'll know that there is a difference between
a general and a lieutenant general. So just our phase value,
(06:08):
here's the face. Here's the face, just off phase value alone.
Our general outranks the lieutenant general. So lieutenant general uh
cain is what's so funny? Is you guys, I'm looking
at this. This is hilarious. So on the actual official website,
oh my god, it says Lieutenant Lieutenant General John D.
(06:31):
Kin and then it just skips down to Lieutenant Lieutenant
General Dan Kane. I'm assuming he goes by Dan Kane,
but we know is he goes by raising Kine. I
think they have a typo on this site. I wonder
what the real DEI is because they got typos on
this site, they better get it right. This man is
a three star right, he's a three star general. He
(06:53):
worked at the CIA as the Associate Director for Military Affairs.
He was most recently the Director of Special Programs and
the Department Special Sorry in the Department of Defense Special
Access Program Central Office, and he served as a Principal
staff Assistant an advisor to the Secretary of Defense there.
(07:14):
This man has now been promoted to the Joint Chiefs
of Staff Chairman. Now what I think is interesting here
is while he's more qualified than your Secretary of Defense,
Pete heg Sath, and he advises Pete Heath which I
think you can determine in terms of rank, that means
(07:36):
Pete hex Seth outranks him. Right. What is interesting about
this is that they are constantly making merit arguments and
claiming that DEI or diversity, Equity and Inclusion means that
somebody got a door opened for them that was not
deserved on qualifications, just on face value. You guys can
go and look at these biles yourselves online on the
(08:00):
official military websites to see what they're talking about. CQ
Brown outranks and is more qualified than John D. Game. Okay,
so that's the first thing that I wanted to talk about.
The second thing is the FBI. So, and this is
important because again a lot of us have fallen into
(08:20):
these traps around DEI meaning that folks didn't earn it. Now,
there are people who didn't earn it, and I'm going
to get into that with this FBI nomination. But it's
not black people. Like you can't look at somebody that's
a person in college just be like, oh, you didn't
earn it because you black sid in this role. That's ridiculous.
Like you should look at people's bios, their resumes, their qualification,
(08:44):
their gifts their talents and make a decision from that way.
But now we're finding ourselves on the defense trying to
prove that we belong when that's not ours to prove.
You need to prove while we don't belong. And instead
what's happening is a lot of corporations, company schools, universities,
federal government agencies are taking a page out of Donald
(09:06):
Trump's playbook and dismantling programs that are serving people well
and are balancing the skills of justice that have not
been balanced for so long in this country. They're still
not so even while I'm talking to you about this
military rank and joint chiefs of staff chairmen and getting
ready to get into FBI, these are entities that many
(09:28):
of my peers, me included, don't necessarily love. Like I'm not,
you know, an FBI champion. I'm not about to go
cut an FBI ad or do a billboard. But what
I can say to you is it's important for us
to understand that there should still be qualified folks working
on the nation's behalf in national security entities. So the
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FBI cash Bettel was narrowly nominated last week. As you
all know well there's another guy. You guys probably are
like Dan Bogino, Dan Bongino, his name sounds familiar. Well,
it's not because he's this high ranking officer in the
intel community. It's not because he served so many presidents
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in the past. Although he has served some presidents. I
will give him that as the form of a secret
service officer, including for a president Barack Obama. But you
probably know his name because he's a popular podcaster. This
popular podcaster is your deputy director for the FBI. Now
here's why that is astounding. The deputy director of the
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FBI has traditionally been a position that was reserved for
a career official. What does that mean? So in the
United States government, there's something called appointed officials, and of
course there are elected officials, but there are appointed officials
in the administration who work under the president and vice
president appointed, and then there are career career service are
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folks who have engaged in work for the government, not
as a part of any partisan any party. So it's
not a partisan, no partisan affiliation. They are doing this
in service to the American public, doing this on behalf
of their country, regardless of who is at the top
of the ticket. Or who regardless of who the president is.
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So normally the FBI hires someone in that role, that
is that has had a career of serving in an
intel capacity, serving in the FBI, etc. So Don Mangino
has Dan Bongino. By the way, I got caught up
in Madon's and Madan's today. Dan Bongino is someone who
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has called the FBI irredeemably corrupt. He has no experience
as an officer in intel other than being a other
than being a Secret Service Agency agent, which doesn't in
and of itself mean you're not qualified. But it is
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remarkable and unprecedented. That's the word that you're gonna hear
thrown around a lot. For those of us that remember
when Donald Trump was elected in twenty sixteen, that's where
we said all the time. Now he said unprecedented, like
unpresident the president. But I'm saying unpress sedented because they're
doing a lot of things that are not normal. So
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this is someone who is a media personality, he's a
former Secret Service agent. He does not have any experience
with the FBI, and they're putting him in here after
saying that the thing is, you know, irredeemably corrupt. I'm
sure there are many of us who hear that language
and aren't alarmed by it. But I think what's remarkable
is he doesn't have any experience to determine where the
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corruption comes from, what system needs to be dismantled, what
system needs to be looked into. What you know, who
can be the real watchdog for the FBI? That probably
ain't Dan's role. And speaking of watchdogs, this is a
also the administration that has gotten rid of a lot
of inspector generals. I think there are at least ten
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now that are gone, so they don't want any watchdogs. Nonetheless,
he is the deputy director of the FBI now, he
does not have to be Senate confirmed. This is an
appointment that Donald Trump can just make, and their responsibility
is to supervise domestic and international operations with no FBI experience.
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So my question for you all today really is for
us to consider who really didn't earn it? What does
it really mean to dismantle DEI it sounds like we
should be this mantling these same tired systems that put
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white men. Although I think y'all, don't you kind of
think Dan is I think Dan is a brother. I
think he might be black, which would make this even
worse because now they're putting them in a position that
he don't have no business in to be Like, see,
black people didn't earn it. Y'all picked him. Okay, we
didn't pick him, But I just want to say I
think that what is remarkable here is that we have
this opportunity to really examine who really didn't earn it
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and when we say these things, when you compare resumes,
and what is typical, and why it isn't the best
national security interests of the country to have someone who
understands how those systems work, particularly when you're engaging in
operations with foreign adversaries or people who are on domestic
soil trying to compromise our national security. If you have
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no experience in doing that, what are we talking about,
Like y'all see, I wouldn't earn it if y'all hired
me to go run engineering at Google. That's not my expertise.
You can't just put plug and play any white guy
to fill a role of influence in this government and
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not expect for that thing to completely break. And then
that begs the question, maybe they know after all that
they didn't earn it, and they're totally fine with breaking
systems because they don't want the system to be here anyway.
And if they've anointed Donald Trump as king, we end
up right where we started. So I think that is
which is this is an unprecedented time. I think what
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we have to acknowledge is that the weaponization of diversity, equity,
and inclusion is a method to distract us from what
really is going on. And what really is going on
is Donald Trump is trying to give favors back to
people who carried his water doing this during this election,
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even if that means putting the entire country in harm's way.
If that isn't didn't earn it, I don't know what
is that is the opposite of meritocracy. The face of
meritocracy and black excellence for the rest of his Black
History Month and the rest it is black here is
gonna be Charles c. Q. Brown. The face of didn't
earn it is gonna be Pete Hackseth. It's gonna be
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Dan Bongino, and it's gonna be Dan not don Kine,
a lieutenant general that replaced a general for no reason.
He I promoted with no experience having done the same
things that Charles c Q Brown has done. And Charles
c q Brown was beloved. So that's all I got today.
I talked a long time. Let me see what these
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questions are. Somebody said, was Joy Anne fired as a
part of DEI reform? You know, I'm gonna tell you this.
I think that nobody black on mainstream television right now
is safe. I think that a lot of people are
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made concessions to Donald Trump and his policies, trying to
ensure that they don't get fined. Because he's technically the
new FCC chairman. He has decided that he is going
to run the FCC, the FTC, and the SEC. Okay
if in order for him to run the Federal Communications Mission,
he's going to make sure that there's nobody that's criticizing
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him on air. And I think that we are going
to see many of these systems begin to unravel. I
think that Joy Read was one of his biggest threats.
How do I know that because as soon as he
learned that Joy was no longer at MSNBC, his response
was finally, which means that Joy was on his radar.
And so what we have to be aware of is
as people take out black folks and Latino folks, and
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Asian folks and women and indigenous folks, as they take
folks out under the auspices of we want to play safe,
we want to make sure our business is successful. What
they need to know is they're actually undermining their business.
What they need to know is they're actually putting Americans
in harms way. What they need to know is they're
actually putting folks in the international, our greater global community
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in harm's way because there's nobody there to tell their stories. Now,
I'm gonna tell you something that might be unpopular. We
started turning TV off, TV off because we know that
these media conglomerates don't want to tell these stories. That's
why it's important for you to tune in to podcasts
like ours. I know Joy's gonna be dropping soon something soon.
You need to tune into Joyce show on what she
does next. Check her out on substack on all social
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media platforms right now, it's important to listen to shows
like Roland's Brittany. So many other people, Aaron, our friend, Aaron,
so many other people who are doing amazing, amazing work
informing you raw and unfiltered, because now, in order to
be on mainstream media, you're gonna have to make some concessions,
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and they haven't maybe some of them haven't had to
make them yet, but they are going to have to
make them soon. And that, my friends, is what is
going to put us in very very precarious positions and
in harm's way. So we've got to pay attention to this.
It's not DEI that they're trying to dismantle. It's not
even just the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four
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that they're trying to dismantle. What they're doing is trying
to dismantle the fourteenth Amendment, which gives us all equal
protection under the law. That's the thing that black folks
could lean up against after slavery to say that we
are indeed free and we are somebody we are in
fact citizens, despite what they said in the dread Scott ruling.
Those are the things that we have to know. So
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as they try to dial us back, not even just
to Jim Crow, but to before Jim Crow, we have
to pay attention. We have to call a thing a thing,
and we've got to make sure that we're given accurate information,
and we'll do that by any means necessary, no matter
what he tries to take out. So it may be
a little scary, but we're going to keep pushing. And
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on that note, that's all I have for you all today.
Thank you all for your questions. I'll answer some other
ones online. Make sure you tune in on Thursday. That's
our main show, Native Lampod where we always give it
to your real the best we got. We'd be fighting
in there, but it's so good and we love to
hear you ask questions in your comments, make sure you're
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sending those in. And lastly, my good brother Andrew Gillum
started his solo pods yesterday on Monday. It went very
very well. He's talking to y'all about how to make
sure that we're organizing for the fascist regime that we
are now living in. You've got to watch that show.
Get organized, organize your communities. We don't know how long
we'll have social media systems. We don't know how long
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we'll be able to upload on YouTube. We don't know
how long the power y'all to power grid got attacked
in my neighborhood today. We don't know how long we're
gonna have these things so make sure you're organizing people,
human bodies, getting phone numbers, develop a phone tree, your churches,
your other places of worship, your friend groups, get organized
so we don't find ourselves isolated. Okay, we can make it.
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And take it from a true soldier. It's not me,
it's Mama Rah. She looked at the care today and
she said, cancer ain't got nothing on me, and neither
does this fascist. Let's go, y'all, Welcome home. Native Lampard
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