December 30, 2024 • 15 mins
This weeks MiniPod is a rerun. Be sure to tune in to our New Years episode this Thursday!
On this MiniPod, hosts Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross answer a question we’ve gotten many times: why “Native Land” Pod?
The hosts explain the inspiration behind the title of the show, and the show as a whole. Drawing from their own experience, they critique mainstream news, share how they came together, and why they felt they needed to create a new “home” for their audience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership
with Recent Choice Media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome home you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
So for this mini pod, we actually talk about a
question you guys ask all the time, and that is
why do you guys call yourselves? Native Land Pod? We
actually get into that on our very first show, So
take a listen and we talk about why we started
this podcast in the first place. So I hope you
enjoyed this episode, and don't forget we have a New
Year's Eve episode dropping this Thursday, so be sure to
(00:28):
tune into that. We'll see you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, able to Chris Flow this video submission for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you
get the name Native Land Podcast?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
What does it mean to be native to you? We
could have chosen from any number of names, numbers, themes
out there. Tell me in your own opinion why native
Land as the as a theme and the topic and
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I thank y'all know I don't like to do
anything shallow, so for me, this has a really deep meaning.
When I thought of Native Land, I thought about James
Weldon Johnson and the Black National anthem. And the fact
that I will never stand for another national anthem, but
in that black national anthem, and the last stands in
the third verse, it says true to our God, true
(01:21):
to our native land. When I think about you all
as my friends, my brother, my sister.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Truth tellers, I deeply respect.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
True to our native land means we can pay homage
to the ancestors who were kidnapped from our native land,
and we're brought here to build something that we still
have yet to truly benefit from, and we still stand
on Native land paying homage to the indigenous folks who
built this place, who welcome people in, who didn't necessarily
(01:49):
treat them with kindness. That's an understatement, but that's what
I think of. There's a double entendre there, and to me,
it makes me think of that James Baldwin moment when
he talks about what we're all patriotism is. Because we
are patriots, we have every right to question every single
aspect of our native land.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's interesting Angela says that because when she first told
me the title to get my opinion about it, I
took a different perspective in that we are creating a
native land because no matter how they make us feel.
This is our home, and I know my entire career
I have felt homeless, like the news media has always
made me feel grossly unwelcome or displaced, you know, in
(02:32):
a space that if I were ever speaking a truth
or speaking to the rising majority of this country, it
was taken as controversial or as something subpar. And even
what we consider biased or unbiased is all based on
what's rooted in white and male. And so this podcast
is a native land for people to come. You have
(02:52):
a home here, no matter what you look like, no
matter where you come from. Here we create space for
you and everybody's welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Love that. You know, all of us have had our
work experience on major platforms, you know, names that will
be recognized around around the globe, and even in those spaces,
while we were invited to offer our opinions and perspectives
and analysis, always felt in many ways curated. Even still,
(03:23):
it was curated by the wrap it up, It was
curated by the fifteen seconds. It was curated by you know,
you're the progressive on the panel, and so bring that perspective,
even if the topic may have been more nuanced than
one of a political ideology a perspective, and so you
know the title, the theme, the titling of the show.
(03:46):
Native Land, to me is less about a physical edifice
and more like translating these airwaves, translating the way in
which we're communicating to our audience and then back to
us as a space that doesn't have to be validated,
that doesn't need anybody sign off that it is ours.
It's our quest, you know, our desire to move toward
(04:10):
the more perfect how we define it. I'm excited by
the the idea of native Land by one yes, paying
homage if we were to think about it in the
physical to uh, to the lands that we set on,
that were rob that we're taken, that were brutally stolen,
(04:31):
but also a reclamation of this space as ours, not
belonging to anyone else, not being curated by anyone else
other than ourselves, true to our beliefs, our ideals, and
frankly welcoming to people who are just like us out there,
you know, scavenging through, just trying to make it, have opinions,
(04:55):
not experts at everything, but offering up what they believe
and guess what if it's it's their lived experience and
their truth it deserves some platform for airing, and I
look forward to us being able to do that on
this platform.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, yeah, welcome home. What you said made me think
about the current existing landscape of news media, and I'm
curious to hear from my co host here in your opinion, Andrew,
who is the mainstream media made for?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Uh? Well, I mean, if we if we were to
just assess, you know, the mainstream media by its approach
to most things, complicated issues to the simple, I think
it's theater and large part, I think it plays a
lot of times to consumerism. I think the bottom line
(05:51):
matters there more than anyone ever says. And and by
and large, I think it plays to fright a majority.
It causes a lot of angst. I mean, when I'm
at family, it's funny. We were all together for Thanksgiving
my family, and almost to a person, people are like,
(06:11):
I don't even want to turn on the news anymore.
I know there's nothing good there. And I just found
it interesting having been part of that community before, of
communicating to people over airwaves, it just struck me that
to a person, people found their peace and their solace,
their joy, and their happiness away from hearing from mainstream news.
(06:34):
So what kind of news could you be if you
repel otherwise decent, caring, you know, thoughtful people, and that
their escape defying peace in their lives or joy in
their lives is to not pay attention to the news.
That's a sad state of affairs when we think about it.
But if that's the experience of every person to a person,
(06:58):
you gotta believe that it's not accidental that the news
is being communicated to us in that way.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And they're definitely not accidental. I can say that I'm
one of them, Like I cannot watch.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
The news regularly. Cable news programming is just too much.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I got some of my friends shout out the joy.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You know, who will watch the point We still watch.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But I am I can't watch a lot of it.
It is repulsive. It is frustrating when I think about
many of the segments that we were on, you know,
like we're set up for Mortal Kombat and it's exhausting,
and so then you're supposed to go home and be
your partner's piece and be and it's just really hard.
So what I think about who the news is made for.
(07:46):
I think about, you know, folks who have a hard
time developing their own opinion and are easily taken advantage of,
easily manipulated. It's almost like the same folks who watch
QVC commercial, right, you know what I mean, Like they
can package it in any way and sell it to you,
you know, tell you, tell you it's raining, and they're
(08:07):
pissing on you, like it really is. It's just too
much and it's exhausting to watch. Like I get the
same feeling watching the news tip that I did when
I used to like consume love and hip hop or basketball,
wives and no shade to some of all my friends.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But I watched one day, I did like a marathon chaw.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I said, well, I feel dirty. Wow, it's the same
way I feel watching any cable news.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Doesn't matter for it's progressive, midstream or or a conservative,
it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's the wind up machine.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, well, mat, I think you feel that way because
it is a new, a different version of reality TV.
Except it is not our reality. So I think the news.
I'll just go one step further and say the news
is made for the comfort of white people. That is
who is centered, that is the audience they want to
curate your average cable news viewers between sixty two and
sixty five, and white and male. And so when programmers
(09:03):
look at what the content for that day, that is
who they're talking to, which is baffling to me because
you are speaking to a shrinking demographic and completely ignoring
a growing demographic. We are the rising majority of this country,
and yet when we show up on air to speak
an honest truth in ways how we communicate, it is
not accepted. It's considered controversial until the white boy says
(09:25):
it's okay to do so. If we speak in our vernacular,
when we use the way that we talk, it is
not okay until the white boy does it, and then
it's fun. We can't quote quote rap lyrics, but they can't.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
We can't talk.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
About what happens in our life. I'm talking to the truth.
We say we go to be the truth. On this podcast,
I'm speaking truth. We cannot talk about make references. You know,
if I say something that is something that we all understand, right,
a colloquial reference that is specific to our community, it's
not okay, And I would always have to say, well.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
If you don't get it, it ain't for you, right.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The same way, I don't always get your country music
reference or your role and tide reference. That ain't for me.
I should get to talk to the rise and majority
of this country and make them feel seen. And so
obviously I have a personal testimony sure that I for
sure know it doesn't matter what the cable news executive
looks like. The position they are there to uphold is
(10:17):
that is the comfort of life.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, it's it's the matrix, right, just insert whomever. Yes,
but the system is programmed to operate a particular way
and produce a particular result. And this is why I
think we have to be really careful when we start
lifting up and edifying sort of these individuals as first
and the like. And I get the symbolic reference, and
(10:40):
it does make me symbolically, you know, proud to have
someone exhibited that my daughter or my son or I
myself might be able to see. But then we have
to go layers deep to understand, like, Okay, are you
a disruptor? In what way are you changing this thing
so that we're we're not character.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The problem is systemic, for sure, and that is a difference,
right fitting a black face that is going to carry
the voices of white folks doesn't do anything for the community.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Or continue to marginalize, you know, communities that have previously
been violated, have been put in boxes, have been reduced
to nothingness. If if your existence here is only to
perpetuate that, not to disrupt it, not to break it
so it can forever be broken, but to rather, you know,
(11:31):
continue to expand the bottom line and make you know,
those nice cus you know, because she suits happy, then
you're not a service. You're useless, You're not a service.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But you know where we are going to be a
services right here. And that's one of the reasons why
why I'm excited about this podcast. I want to know
tip from you first, why are you excited about this podcast?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'm excited about this podcast because I get to do
this with my friends who I've known a long time.
People think we met in media. We did not known
each other long before we were doing it in front
of a camera exactly. So it's really nice to show
up here and one be in a space where we
feel welcomed. Two, I'm excited about this because our words
and our truth will not be policed. I was exhausted
(12:15):
with having my words policed or having the fight even
to talk, you know, to talk about issues that were
significant to so to millions of people across this country,
and having to defend and define my humanity every week.
It's so relaxing to show up in a place where
I don't have to do either of those things. We
can skip past all that and just get to conversations
of substance, but also to keep it abuck, conversations of
(12:36):
some foolishness too. You know, we have a good time
with each other. So yeah, I'm most excited about that.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And all of that could exist, like in one place.
I hate this idea that if the world out there
is serious, that the only thing you can bring back
to the world is serious.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right, we'll find joy.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And it's not a reduction to the fact that there
are real, serious, consequential things going on. But my goodness,
we come from generations of folks who had to find
joy in the smallest of places because the world wasn't
offering it to them. There. Every day was torture us,
(13:12):
it was labor, it was work. There were no days off.
Even your faith was curated to you, right, it was
brought to you by sponsored by massa in them, right,
And so folks had define moments where you could appreciate
being alive and around the people you know, who you love,
(13:33):
the fact that you are whole folks, You're not just
an employee of somebody. If I'm bringing it to current day,
were nobody's employee, were nobody's employer, or exclusively, we're mothers,
we're fathers, we're brothers, siblings, where niece's nephews, so on
and so forth, and that's okay. And in each of
those places we bring a different side, a different side
(13:55):
of ourselves are allowed to live and breathe. And I'm
hopeful that I'm excited that we don't have to check
any part of who we are at the door, uh
before we walk in and take these mics, that we
can show up fully, that I don't have to apologize
for any part of myself and in and in and
in life, if we really are in pursuit of, you know,
(14:18):
true liberation, that's exactly how it ought to go. We
shouldn't have to look over our shoulder and apologize and
make excuse for lament or feel the weight of imposter
syndrome when you're when you're home. And so we're creating
a different kind of home and hopefully moving people closer
toward this, you know, this way of thinking, rather than
(14:41):
this very myopic way in which the world right now
requires us to exist.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm excited because you all agreed to do this. I'm
excited because I know from walking with y'all down the
street how much your voices mean to our peace people
and to a lot of folks who don't look like
us but just felt resonance with you because of your authenticity.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So I'm very grateful.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I think my excitement is to couple with gratitude because
I know that there is a space for this in
the hearts and minds of so many, including my own,
and I look forward to ever refreshing, authentic political conversation
where we can chop it up legitimately, not because we're
trying to go viral, but because we really are trying
to solve some of the toughest problems. And y'all have
always been that way, So thank you for being problem
(15:30):
solvers and being willing to do it on the record
on air as a native land.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Native Land Pod is a production of iHeart Radio in
partnership with Reason Choice Media. For more podcasts from my
Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever
you listen to your favorite shows.
Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership
with Recent Choice Media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome home you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
So for this mini pod, we actually talk about a
question you guys ask all the time, and that is
why do you guys call yourselves? Native Land Pod? We
actually get into that on our very first show, So
take a listen and we talk about why we started
this podcast in the first place. So I hope you
enjoyed this episode, and don't forget we have a New
Year's Eve episode dropping this Thursday, so be sure to
(00:28):
tune into that. We'll see you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, able to Chris Flow this video submission for y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you
get the name Native Land Podcast?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
What does it mean to be native to you? We
could have chosen from any number of names, numbers, themes
out there. Tell me in your own opinion why native
Land as the as a theme and the topic and
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I thank y'all know I don't like to do
anything shallow, so for me, this has a really deep meaning.
When I thought of Native Land, I thought about James
Weldon Johnson and the Black National anthem. And the fact
that I will never stand for another national anthem, but
in that black national anthem, and the last stands in
the third verse, it says true to our God, true
(01:21):
to our native land. When I think about you all
as my friends, my brother, my sister.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Truth tellers, I deeply respect.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
True to our native land means we can pay homage
to the ancestors who were kidnapped from our native land,
and we're brought here to build something that we still
have yet to truly benefit from, and we still stand
on Native land paying homage to the indigenous folks who
built this place, who welcome people in, who didn't necessarily
(01:49):
treat them with kindness. That's an understatement, but that's what
I think of. There's a double entendre there, and to me,
it makes me think of that James Baldwin moment when
he talks about what we're all patriotism is. Because we
are patriots, we have every right to question every single
aspect of our native land.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's interesting Angela says that because when she first told
me the title to get my opinion about it, I
took a different perspective in that we are creating a
native land because no matter how they make us feel.
This is our home, and I know my entire career
I have felt homeless, like the news media has always
made me feel grossly unwelcome or displaced, you know, in
(02:32):
a space that if I were ever speaking a truth
or speaking to the rising majority of this country, it
was taken as controversial or as something subpar. And even
what we consider biased or unbiased is all based on
what's rooted in white and male. And so this podcast
is a native land for people to come. You have
(02:52):
a home here, no matter what you look like, no
matter where you come from. Here we create space for
you and everybody's welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Love that. You know, all of us have had our
work experience on major platforms, you know, names that will
be recognized around around the globe, and even in those spaces,
while we were invited to offer our opinions and perspectives
and analysis, always felt in many ways curated. Even still,
(03:23):
it was curated by the wrap it up, It was
curated by the fifteen seconds. It was curated by you know,
you're the progressive on the panel, and so bring that perspective,
even if the topic may have been more nuanced than
one of a political ideology a perspective, and so you
know the title, the theme, the titling of the show.
(03:46):
Native Land, to me is less about a physical edifice
and more like translating these airwaves, translating the way in
which we're communicating to our audience and then back to
us as a space that doesn't have to be validated,
that doesn't need anybody sign off that it is ours.
It's our quest, you know, our desire to move toward
(04:10):
the more perfect how we define it. I'm excited by
the the idea of native Land by one yes, paying
homage if we were to think about it in the
physical to uh, to the lands that we set on,
that were rob that we're taken, that were brutally stolen,
(04:31):
but also a reclamation of this space as ours, not
belonging to anyone else, not being curated by anyone else
other than ourselves, true to our beliefs, our ideals, and
frankly welcoming to people who are just like us out there,
you know, scavenging through, just trying to make it, have opinions,
(04:55):
not experts at everything, but offering up what they believe
and guess what if it's it's their lived experience and
their truth it deserves some platform for airing, and I
look forward to us being able to do that on
this platform.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, yeah, welcome home. What you said made me think
about the current existing landscape of news media, and I'm
curious to hear from my co host here in your opinion, Andrew,
who is the mainstream media made for?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Uh? Well, I mean, if we if we were to
just assess, you know, the mainstream media by its approach
to most things, complicated issues to the simple, I think
it's theater and large part, I think it plays a
lot of times to consumerism. I think the bottom line
(05:51):
matters there more than anyone ever says. And and by
and large, I think it plays to fright a majority.
It causes a lot of angst. I mean, when I'm
at family, it's funny. We were all together for Thanksgiving
my family, and almost to a person, people are like,
(06:11):
I don't even want to turn on the news anymore.
I know there's nothing good there. And I just found
it interesting having been part of that community before, of
communicating to people over airwaves, it just struck me that
to a person, people found their peace and their solace,
their joy, and their happiness away from hearing from mainstream news.
(06:34):
So what kind of news could you be if you
repel otherwise decent, caring, you know, thoughtful people, and that
their escape defying peace in their lives or joy in
their lives is to not pay attention to the news.
That's a sad state of affairs when we think about it.
But if that's the experience of every person to a person,
(06:58):
you gotta believe that it's not accidental that the news
is being communicated to us in that way.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And they're definitely not accidental. I can say that I'm
one of them, Like I cannot watch.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
The news regularly. Cable news programming is just too much.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I got some of my friends shout out the joy.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
You know, who will watch the point We still watch.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But I am I can't watch a lot of it.
It is repulsive. It is frustrating when I think about
many of the segments that we were on, you know,
like we're set up for Mortal Kombat and it's exhausting,
and so then you're supposed to go home and be
your partner's piece and be and it's just really hard.
So what I think about who the news is made for.
(07:46):
I think about, you know, folks who have a hard
time developing their own opinion and are easily taken advantage of,
easily manipulated. It's almost like the same folks who watch
QVC commercial, right, you know what I mean, Like they
can package it in any way and sell it to you,
you know, tell you, tell you it's raining, and they're
(08:07):
pissing on you, like it really is. It's just too
much and it's exhausting to watch. Like I get the
same feeling watching the news tip that I did when
I used to like consume love and hip hop or basketball,
wives and no shade to some of all my friends.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But I watched one day, I did like a marathon chaw.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I said, well, I feel dirty. Wow, it's the same
way I feel watching any cable news.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Doesn't matter for it's progressive, midstream or or a conservative,
it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's the wind up machine.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, well, mat, I think you feel that way because
it is a new, a different version of reality TV.
Except it is not our reality. So I think the news.
I'll just go one step further and say the news
is made for the comfort of white people. That is
who is centered, that is the audience they want to
curate your average cable news viewers between sixty two and
sixty five, and white and male. And so when programmers
(09:03):
look at what the content for that day, that is
who they're talking to, which is baffling to me because
you are speaking to a shrinking demographic and completely ignoring
a growing demographic. We are the rising majority of this country,
and yet when we show up on air to speak
an honest truth in ways how we communicate, it is
not accepted. It's considered controversial until the white boy says
(09:25):
it's okay to do so. If we speak in our vernacular,
when we use the way that we talk, it is
not okay until the white boy does it, and then
it's fun. We can't quote quote rap lyrics, but they can't.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
We can't talk.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
About what happens in our life. I'm talking to the truth.
We say we go to be the truth. On this podcast,
I'm speaking truth. We cannot talk about make references. You know,
if I say something that is something that we all understand, right,
a colloquial reference that is specific to our community, it's
not okay, And I would always have to say, well.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
If you don't get it, it ain't for you, right.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
The same way, I don't always get your country music
reference or your role and tide reference. That ain't for me.
I should get to talk to the rise and majority
of this country and make them feel seen. And so
obviously I have a personal testimony sure that I for
sure know it doesn't matter what the cable news executive
looks like. The position they are there to uphold is
(10:17):
that is the comfort of life.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, it's it's the matrix, right, just insert whomever. Yes,
but the system is programmed to operate a particular way
and produce a particular result. And this is why I
think we have to be really careful when we start
lifting up and edifying sort of these individuals as first
and the like. And I get the symbolic reference, and
(10:40):
it does make me symbolically, you know, proud to have
someone exhibited that my daughter or my son or I
myself might be able to see. But then we have
to go layers deep to understand, like, Okay, are you
a disruptor? In what way are you changing this thing
so that we're we're not character.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The problem is systemic, for sure, and that is a difference,
right fitting a black face that is going to carry
the voices of white folks doesn't do anything for the community.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Or continue to marginalize, you know, communities that have previously
been violated, have been put in boxes, have been reduced
to nothingness. If if your existence here is only to
perpetuate that, not to disrupt it, not to break it
so it can forever be broken, but to rather, you know,
(11:31):
continue to expand the bottom line and make you know,
those nice cus you know, because she suits happy, then
you're not a service. You're useless, You're not a service.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But you know where we are going to be a
services right here. And that's one of the reasons why
why I'm excited about this podcast. I want to know
tip from you first, why are you excited about this podcast?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'm excited about this podcast because I get to do
this with my friends who I've known a long time.
People think we met in media. We did not known
each other long before we were doing it in front
of a camera exactly. So it's really nice to show
up here and one be in a space where we
feel welcomed. Two, I'm excited about this because our words
and our truth will not be policed. I was exhausted
(12:15):
with having my words policed or having the fight even
to talk, you know, to talk about issues that were
significant to so to millions of people across this country,
and having to defend and define my humanity every week.
It's so relaxing to show up in a place where
I don't have to do either of those things. We
can skip past all that and just get to conversations
of substance, but also to keep it abuck, conversations of
(12:36):
some foolishness too. You know, we have a good time
with each other. So yeah, I'm most excited about that.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And all of that could exist, like in one place.
I hate this idea that if the world out there
is serious, that the only thing you can bring back
to the world is serious.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right, we'll find joy.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And it's not a reduction to the fact that there
are real, serious, consequential things going on. But my goodness,
we come from generations of folks who had to find
joy in the smallest of places because the world wasn't
offering it to them. There. Every day was torture us,
(13:12):
it was labor, it was work. There were no days off.
Even your faith was curated to you, right, it was
brought to you by sponsored by massa in them, right,
And so folks had define moments where you could appreciate
being alive and around the people you know, who you love,
(13:33):
the fact that you are whole folks, You're not just
an employee of somebody. If I'm bringing it to current day,
were nobody's employee, were nobody's employer, or exclusively, we're mothers,
we're fathers, we're brothers, siblings, where niece's nephews, so on
and so forth, and that's okay. And in each of
those places we bring a different side, a different side
(13:55):
of ourselves are allowed to live and breathe. And I'm
hopeful that I'm excited that we don't have to check
any part of who we are at the door, uh
before we walk in and take these mics, that we
can show up fully, that I don't have to apologize
for any part of myself and in and in and
in life, if we really are in pursuit of, you know,
(14:18):
true liberation, that's exactly how it ought to go. We
shouldn't have to look over our shoulder and apologize and
make excuse for lament or feel the weight of imposter
syndrome when you're when you're home. And so we're creating
a different kind of home and hopefully moving people closer
toward this, you know, this way of thinking, rather than
(14:41):
this very myopic way in which the world right now
requires us to exist.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm excited because you all agreed to do this. I'm
excited because I know from walking with y'all down the
street how much your voices mean to our peace people
and to a lot of folks who don't look like
us but just felt resonance with you because of your authenticity.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So I'm very grateful.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I think my excitement is to couple with gratitude because
I know that there is a space for this in
the hearts and minds of so many, including my own,
and I look forward to ever refreshing, authentic political conversation
where we can chop it up legitimately, not because we're
trying to go viral, but because we really are trying
to solve some of the toughest problems. And y'all have
always been that way, So thank you for being problem
(15:30):
solvers and being willing to do it on the record
on air as a native land.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Native Land Pod is a production of iHeart Radio in
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