March 18, 2025 • 26 mins
House Democrats united in opposition to the Republican budget while Senate Democrats caved. Why?? And what are we gonna do about it.
Angela Rye said last week: The government BEEN shut down, so how is it that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer seems to have missed the assignment?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership
with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Here's
what we're talking about today. We are talking about Chuck Schumer.
For those of you who may be unclear, Chuck Schumer
is the Senate Minority leader because he is responsible for
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what the Democratic Party's agenda might be in the Senate.
As you all know, many of us, I'm saying us,
Lolo included, many of us are very frustrated by the
fact that he didn't understand understand the assignment last week.
House Democrats are on or all the House are on
recess this week, and we're trying to understand why anybody's
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given him a pass because we've not given him a pass.
We are trying to understand, Chuck Schumer, why would you
vote with a Republican party that refuses to hold Donald
Trump and Elon Musk. Really President must accountable for his actions.
You're giving them a rubber stamp. Let the Republicans do that.
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So those of you are at home and like I
don't really care about none of this. If you are
at home saying that, you probably don't watch the podcast
quite yet. But welcome if you do, welcome home, as
we say every week on Native Lampi. But what I
will also say to you is we need to talk
about accountability structure. That's lolo suggestion. We need to talk
about why we should care. And we are going to
get a little bit further into Chuck Schuber. Lola, I'm
hanging up on you, y'all. Tune in over here, y'all.
(01:31):
She's still yelling, hanging up. I'm hanging up. Okay, so
on live now. Now, here's what I want to tell y'all.
Why should you care? Why should you care? Well, I'm
so glad you asked. So. The Congress is a coequal
branch of government, and Congress dictates whether or what builds
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the president signs into law. Okay, what we have seen
in recent weeks is that literally since Donald Trump has
been torn into torn into office January twentieth, we have
seen a Republican Congress, a Republican administration that has been
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willing to give Donald Trump a rubber stamp. We talked
about this several times, that there's no accountability, that it
feels like a land has no president. All of that,
Chuck Schumer had to have seen Hakim Jeffries, who is
the House Democratic Leader we've been calling him the opposition leader,
ensure that his caucus, that House Democrats, voted in lockstep
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to oppose a continuing resolution that even included a cut
of a billion dollars to the DC government. What does
that mean for you? If you live in Mississippi or
Alabama or Washington State, which is where I'm from, why
should you care about that? Well, if you're willing to
cut the budget of another entity because you don't agree
with their politics, or you want to punish them or whatever,
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that's a very dangerous precedent to set. And that is
kind of the role where where that we're walking down.
So we assumed that because Chuck Schumer said last week, Hey, guys,
I'm gonna I'm going to be voting in lockstep with
the House Dems. We're going to ensure that our party
is lined up together. We're going to protect the American people.
That's the most important party here, y'all. He was supposed
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to be protecting the needs and the interests of the
American people. And guess what, Chuck, he didn't understand the assignment.
He did not understand the assignment. Instead, he said, you
know what, hell with this. Not only am I going
to vote with the Republicans on this Continuing Resolution, I
am going to get ten of us to stand in
lockstep to pass this. As you all may know, in
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the Senate, the United States Senate, most of us would
just think a simple majority, right would ensure that we
could pass policy. Well that's not the case. In order
for a cloture vote to happen, you have to have
sixty votes. So because of the margins in the margins
in the Senate, you normally are going to have to
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have some Democrats who side with Republicans to get the
bill to cloture, and then for the ultimate measure, whatever
that legislation is. Here was the Continued Resolution, which is
a budget how things will be funded throughout the government
or not funded, which is another big part. So they
voted for cloture, which means the overall bill could continue,
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and then they allowed the Republicans to get this measure
through that now gives Donald Trump and Elon Musk more
rain to do whatever they want to do. So regardless
of if you guys care about this or not, what
you've got to understand is that even at your job.
You have accountability. If you come into work late every day,
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you got to have a conversation with your boss. Right
after you had a conversation with your boss, you still
coming to work late. You are may get disciplined, maybe
some type of probationary period, and then you ultimately lose
your job. If the American people are telling you what
time it is, Chucky, if the American people are telling
you how they want you to vote, Chucky, I'm going
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to need you to fall in line. Friend. So that's
what's happening. So now Chuck Schumer's making his calls, he's
making his rounds, he's asking people for cover, he's asking
people for support. He's telling them, whatever you want to do,
I'll do it, man. We told you what to do. Man.
So here's the thing I want to know from y'all
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if you think that Chuck Schumer should face any consequence
for again, this is the Senate minority leader. He only
got but so much power. And mind you, let me
tell you. When the Republicans were in the minority, there's
a guy named Mitch McConnell who some of y'all might
have seen like this at a press conference, and he
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was stuck. He didn't get stuck when it was time
for them to debate a continuing resolution that they didn't like.
In twenty twenty one, when he didn't want to give
Joe Biden approval or be on the other side of
what they would what they would call a democratic rubber stamp,
he didn't give him no support, No, no, no, no no.
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Guess what Mitch McConnell did, friends, He philibustered that bill. Philibuster,
I'm so glad you asked. That means that he was
on the Senate floor talking that ish about the bill
because he didn't want the thing to pass. That's what
you do, you put up a little bit of fight.
And here's the problem. Me a political myself. I'm a
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political strategist. I grew up professionally in this stuff. I
love this stuff. I have been telling people for a
year that we are living, we will live under a
fascist regime if Donald Trump wins this election. Okay, I
have been and you know why I'm telling you that
because I believe it, and we're already seeing signs of it.
We have lost there's an index, a democracy index. We
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have lost standing on that democracy index. I believe the
words that are coming out of my mouth. I ain't line, y'all.
I believe that we are fifty two steps closer to fascism. Okay,
so I'm not telling you something I don't believe. So
my question is for folks in elected office who have
also said the same thing that me and my friends,
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people who are in the political process have said for
over a year that this will be fascism, that democracy
will be dead, which means only that people power will
exist no more. If we really believe that, why would
you vote in favor of giving somebody more reach like
Elon Musk would doge the Department of Government Efficiency that
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ain't even a real department. Why would you give Donald Trump,
who's signing in these executive actions, all these executive actions
that are not into law, rogue authority for him, abuses
of power for him trying to strengthen and garner more
presidential power, which he clearly doesn't need. There need to
be more checks and balances. Why would you give him
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more authority? And not even filibuster it. Y'all wanted to
keep the filibuster bro use the filipbuster. So I want
to just tell y'all about some other folks who didn't
quite get this right. Okay, So there were several several
Democrats who voted to support this measure, and I know
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that some of you have already been following this issue,
so you know who they are. I am going to
one of our graphics because y'all, my memory is bad
to pull up who the list of senators were that
voted for this bill, the Continuing Resolution. Some of them were,
for example, Kristin Gillibrand in New York. So why are
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you voting for it? What's on the line for you?
Catherine Cortes, mast them out of Nevada? Why are you
voting for it? Let me see who else voted for this.
I want to name everybody, because it's not just Chuck
Shoo who should be facing these consequences. It's the other
people too who voted for this. But I do think
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that he had an obligation and he didn't fulfill his obligation.
He's the leader, so if he gives them cover, which
means he gives them permission to vote for it, we
have a problem, you know. So let's see who else.
The vote was sixty two to thirty eight, and it
was a six month extension of the current budget, which
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means that in six months we're gonna be back here again,
probably before them. So Cinni Minority leader Chuck Schumer, John
Fetterman of Pennsylvania again, Catherine Cortes mass So of Nevada.
Dick Durbin, who is normally pretty good on issues of Illinois,
voted for this. Brian Shattz of Hawaii. Now, Brian, what
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you doing? Gary Peters of Michigan, really, what are you doing? Like?
Do these folks not realize they have people who would
be impacted by some of these cuts in their states.
Maggie Hassen of New Hampshire, a Grin again, Kirsten Gillibrand
of New York, and Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire, who,
by the way, says she's not going to uh seek
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office again, She's gonna step down after this term. So
what did you have to lose? Friend? And then Angus King,
who is an independent from Maine but caucuses with the Democrats.
That's what we're up against. So my position is you
need to make sure these people hear from you and
understand what's at stake here. There are those of you
who have been hearing us say this for weeks now
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that you need to call these members of Congress, make
your voices heard, ensure that they are doing the right thing.
And you're like, why should I care? Why should I
Why should I take my time to call them? I've
never seen them work for us? Why should I care? Well,
this is what I'm gonna tell you. Where I think
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black folks in particular have the greatest amount of power,
it is in our political power, and it is the
place where we will surrender it the easiest. We uh
forsake our obligation to hold these members of Congress accountable
whether they whether we believe they work for us or not,
they actually do. They are paid with our hard earned
taxpayer dollars. And so those are the reasons why you
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should care and really focus on. Hey, these I'm gonna
look at what this bill says it will do to
people in communities like mine. I'm gonna look at what
this bill will do to me personally. This is how
these things would harm me personally. I think those are
the kinds of conversations that we have to do now.
When that new shoe drops, or there's a a concert
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you want to go to, or there's you know, some
contest where you can earn some you know, participatedness and
you get a five hundred dollar gift card. Right, we
will bust a move. But when it's come, when it
comes time to protect our interest, we don't. And so
I really want to understand from you all why, like
what would keep you from engaging in that way. Our
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voices are sometimes all we have, and so we've got
to lift our voices and make sure that we hold
these people accountable. Now here's let me tell you some tea.
So Chuck Schumer been getting all this pressure, and what
he did was he has a new book out on
the rise of anti Semitism in America, and his little
book tour was supposed to start. His book tour was
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supposed to start in Baltimore Monday. So yesterday, y'all, Chuck
Schumer canceled the tour. And let me tell you why
he canceled the tour because some of you understood the
assignment in ways that he did not, in ways that
some of us have not. And you called his office
until they cut the phones off, and you blew up
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the social media accounts until they cut those off, and
they stopped responding, but the pressure was successful because he's
postponed the tour because he did not want to face
those who he hurt. And that is what this is
all about, y'all. We are in a different age. Something
more is required out of all of us. And I
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will tell you, honestly, I don't have all the answers.
I couldn't even remember all the Democrats who voted against
or voted for the continued Resolution. But what I can
tell you I know is that if we do extraordinary things,
we will experience extraordinary results. I want to hear from
y'all honestly on what else you think we can and
must do. I think that some people would say, how
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do y'all got all this time to be mad at
Chuck Schumer? You should be mad at the Republicans, Chiad.
We've been mad at them. We've been mad at them,
but they don't feel accountable to us. They say smartmouth
things to us when we raise our concerns to them.
We need to go first to the people who said
that they stood with us on issues, who go on
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our platforms to reach our people, who come to our
churches and ask for our votes, who come into our communities,
for Black History Months, gatherings and all the things in
the parade celebrating. Judent team voted for the holiday, but
when it comes time to protect the funding that will
keep us alive, we looking like where you at? Those
are the kinds of things that we need to be
wrestling with in this moment, and I think it is
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abundantly important that we start shifting our expectations and we
start shifting how we deal with elected officials who are
supposed to serve us. Let me tell you why, y'all.
Do you know there are whole communities of people who
know by default to call their elected officials, who know like, oh, well,
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if I host this fundraiser, I have an audience with
this person, They'll at least listen to what I have
to say. They know that if they go up to
Capitol Hill and request a meeting, that that member has
an obligation to hear from them. We have that power.
We just have decided that it's not important enough, or
or because I don't want to cast judgment. You might
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be in a position where you're like, hey, given the
work that I do and the hours that I work,
I don't have time to call. Maybe you work all
day and you're not allowed to make any personal calls,
so you can't call the Hill, or maybe you don't
you're not on social media, or maybe you're like, I
can't fly. I can't afford to fly to DC to
talk to these members in their face, only to potentially
get denied a meeting. I get it. But what you
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can do also is look up organizations in your area.
Maybe you're an educator, maybe you are, you know, a janitor,
Maybe you are in a labor union. Did you know
that these labor unions have relationships with these folks, that
there are education associations that have relationships with these folks.
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That maybe you care deeply about civil rights, so you
join the NAACP or Urban League or what have you,
and they have relationships with these folks. Maybe you prefer
to be a little more confrontational and you want to
sign a petition about it when you can go to
color Change right. Maybe you're seeing that there are people
who represent your interests better who are running for office
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in these neighborhoods. You can support that person. Now you
might say, Angela, I don't have money to give to
these members, and actually I wish we ken't money out
of politics all together. I understand that too. You can
phone Bank for that person, you can text Bank for
that person and push them. Now, some of y'all just
like me too, I'm not gonna lie. Maybe like well,
that sounds real cute and cool, but I don't know
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if there's gonna be another election. I'm with you. I
don't know either. But here's what I do know. We
have an obligation to do different. We are expecting extraordinary
things from Members of Congress, from elected officials in these
very trying times, but we are not doing extraordinary things ourselves.
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And calling your member of Congress and holding them accountable
or meeting with them or showing up to their town
hall is not an extraordinary thing. It is actually the
least you can do. And if you're not able to
do it, call a member of your family, call someone
in your community who you trust and ask them to
do it for with you. If you are intimidating, you
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could literally send a message to our ed Native lampod
or you can put a question in the chat today.
I'm looking on to Lo Lo too to see if
we have any questions today to ask them, you know,
to help. Can you help you can ask us to help.
We would love to. We love those questions. Every week
we answer questions on our main show that drops Thursday.
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But you just have to send in your question to
Lolo our dm our Native Lampod on Instagram at Native
Lampod on Instagram. You can send a question and say, Okay,
I want to let's run this through. Let's like trial
and error. We can try to call somebody tomorrow. But yeah,
I think that we should do some of those things.
Let me get to some of these questions before we're
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out of time. Thanks Sol for Senandy. So, why did
Chuck say that the filibuster would give Trump more power?
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Is it true if the government shuts down, Trump has
a better plan hand. So here's a real thing. What
Donald Trump wanted in this instance was for the government
to stay open. This bill helps the government stay open.
A lot of federal workers were saying themselves, shut it
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down because it's been shut down anyway. That's what we've
been saying on the podcast for a little over a week.
It has been shut Now, what they're doing is an
abuse of power, and so they're engaging and shut down tactics.
They just dismantled the Department Education. Do you know the
same day that the Senate passed the continuing resolution that
Chuck Schumer put his staff of approval on and endorsed
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and passed and voted yes on. Did you know that
same day that Donald Trump dismantled the Minority Business Development Agency?
Did you know that he ended the CDFI fund what
helps to which helps to ensure balance and fair access
to poor communities to financial services and resources. That's what
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we're up again. So the government's been shut down and
he doesn't need them to pass any bill to do that,
So we should be using this time to hold them accountable. Like, yeah, bro,
I would love to vote on your little bill, but
until you rein and Elon Musk, I ain't got no
time for that. Yeah, bro, I would love to vote
on your little bill, but until you I'm signing executive
actions that you think went through the legislative process, I
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ain't got no time for that. That's how you handle that.
You do not meet someone who is a dictator and
an abuser of power by giving them more access and power.
That's not how that works. Come on, we gotta know
better than that. We gotta fight better than that. Fighting
back is not saying yes, that is surrender. And that's
why I really believe that Chuck Schumer in his incendency too.
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But I don't believe he's gonna run again. The word
on the street is he is not going to pursue
office again. So he should be more bolder than more
bold than ever. Right. I'm not talking about him stepping
down from his seat, because that's gonna take too long.
I'm talking about stepping down from leadership because if you
can't lead, and you can't lead with courage, and you
can't follow what the people who sent you want. And
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I'm not talking about the small minority of donors who
wanted you to pass that bill for defense funding. I'm clear,
I see you, Bro, I'm not talking about them, talking
about the people who wanted the federal government workers who
you claim to be standing in solidarity with as they
sue to get access to their jobs and to keep
their jobs. I'm not talking about the small number of
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donors who had a business interest in this bill passing.
I'm saying that your values are off, and because your
values are off, you don't deserve to lead the American
people on the centate side. That's what I really believe.
I would like to go over what's being cut, but
instead of me doing that, I'm actually going to refer
you to our last podcast from Thursday where we talk
about that in detail, Elizabeth. But I did answer your
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first question, Percy Miracles. What's the Democrats specific black agenda
ain't one boom. We got to make one, and we
have to demand that they are held accountable to that.
I love this. Then this goes right back to the
heart of what we were really saying. Boston Baby sixty
eight says, I've called and left messages. What impact did
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it really have? What I can tell you is that
I know for a fact that Chuck Schumer has been
scrambling making calls to people asking for help, and it
might have been your call. I think they might have
said Boston Baby called me. So let me go ahead
and do what I need to do. Let me at
least ask a question. But I do want you to
know it is a part of our collective action when
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we come together and say, it's not about who the
person leading it is. It's not about if it goes
exactly my way. Lolo knows about that. Me and Lolo
both hardheaded and We like for things to be in
our way, in our language, but it doesn't have to
be that if we agree on the end goal, which
often is the liberation for people. Me personally, I'm always
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talking about the liberation for black people. The only way
to liberation is for people to be on one accord.
So if you can't agree on how we get there,
if you can't agree on when we get there, if
you can't agree on the tactics for how we get there,
we're going to have a problem. And I think that
it is dangerous enough in this country right now. We
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have got to pivot. The tactics of the past have
got us so far, thank you. It is time for
the tactics of the present. It's time for the tactics
of future generations. And so I'm not suggesting that we
leave it at a call. I'm suggesting that we launch
a campaign to call for his resignation as the minority leader.
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Because it's not that Chuck. Maybe. I mean, some people
would argue he's always been a bad leader. Some people
would say, eh, it's indifferent. But what I guess, what
I'm telling you all is we are living in unprecedented
times and we need innovation and creativity and boldness and
courage to get us through this season. If we don't
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have that in leadership for the people who have to
sit down with Donald Trump, not the people who are
in the background whispering laughing with him in the Oval
office and at these different public gatherings, but people who
really believe that this man is the threat we said
he is, then that means we got to take a
one eighty. That means we got to try a different approach.
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That means that the season and the time that we're
in requires something greater of us. So let us lean
into what that greater might be. I would love to
hear from you all on what you think this moment
requires from us politically, psychologically, economically, Like y'all, I really
think we should be moving like this is turning into fascism.
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We should know where we're going to get our food from.
We should know how to contact people if they're not
saved in our phone. We should know some phone numbers
by heart. We should have all of our documents. Do
you have your birth certificate? Do you have your Social
Security card? Because they cut back on Social Security access right,
do you have your passport? If you don't have a passport,
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hurry up and go get one. If it's near expiration,
maybe you have six months left, go get your passport. Okay.
For people who are like, stop up on nonperishables. If
you can afford a generator, get a generator. If you
have a neighbor that you're close to and y'all can
go in on a generator, get a generator. Okay, I'm
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telling you, I'll figure out how we can grow some crops.
I want to learn how to farm, y'all. Okay, I'm
not in the right place again. I'm in Seattle, but
like I need to learn how. I need to know.
And if I'm not the farmer, can I, you know,
put some resources into somebody who is one. I am
not trying to scare you. What I'm trying to tell
you is I don't know what we're up against, and
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I don't know where we are going from here. But
I know that we can create a vision of the
America that we want to see. I know that we
can hold accountable those in power for the America that
we want to see. And we must demand change, we
must demand to move different. But those demands all start
with us. So until next time. I'm so grateful to
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be here with you all. I wouldn't mind if you
posted Shumer must step down. I wouldn't mind if you
told us who you think should be leading the Democrats
in the Senate. I want to know. We know who's
leading the Republicans, Donald Trump on every level, because don't
nobody else have a backbone or a spine in his party?
So our folks can look the same way, right, So
let's move different. Let's do our parts so we can easily,
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in an integrity call upon them to do their parts.
And until next time, welcome home. I'll see y'all in
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with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Here's
what we're talking about today. We are talking about Chuck Schumer.
For those of you who may be unclear, Chuck Schumer
is the Senate Minority leader because he is responsible for
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what the Democratic Party's agenda might be in the Senate.
As you all know, many of us, I'm saying us,
Lolo included, many of us are very frustrated by the
fact that he didn't understand understand the assignment last week.
House Democrats are on or all the House are on
recess this week, and we're trying to understand why anybody's
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given him a pass because we've not given him a pass.
We are trying to understand, Chuck Schumer, why would you
vote with a Republican party that refuses to hold Donald
Trump and Elon Musk. Really President must accountable for his actions.
You're giving them a rubber stamp. Let the Republicans do that.
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So those of you are at home and like I
don't really care about none of this. If you are
at home saying that, you probably don't watch the podcast
quite yet. But welcome if you do, welcome home, as
we say every week on Native Lampi. But what I
will also say to you is we need to talk
about accountability structure. That's lolo suggestion. We need to talk
about why we should care. And we are going to
get a little bit further into Chuck Schuber. Lola, I'm
hanging up on you, y'all. Tune in over here, y'all.
(01:31):
She's still yelling, hanging up. I'm hanging up. Okay, so
on live now. Now, here's what I want to tell y'all.
Why should you care? Why should you care? Well, I'm
so glad you asked. So. The Congress is a coequal
branch of government, and Congress dictates whether or what builds
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the president signs into law. Okay, what we have seen
in recent weeks is that literally since Donald Trump has
been torn into torn into office January twentieth, we have
seen a Republican Congress, a Republican administration that has been
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willing to give Donald Trump a rubber stamp. We talked
about this several times, that there's no accountability, that it
feels like a land has no president. All of that,
Chuck Schumer had to have seen Hakim Jeffries, who is
the House Democratic Leader we've been calling him the opposition leader,
ensure that his caucus, that House Democrats, voted in lockstep
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to oppose a continuing resolution that even included a cut
of a billion dollars to the DC government. What does
that mean for you? If you live in Mississippi or
Alabama or Washington State, which is where I'm from, why
should you care about that? Well, if you're willing to
cut the budget of another entity because you don't agree
with their politics, or you want to punish them or whatever,
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that's a very dangerous precedent to set. And that is
kind of the role where where that we're walking down.
So we assumed that because Chuck Schumer said last week, Hey, guys,
I'm gonna I'm going to be voting in lockstep with
the House Dems. We're going to ensure that our party
is lined up together. We're going to protect the American people.
That's the most important party here, y'all. He was supposed
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to be protecting the needs and the interests of the
American people. And guess what, Chuck, he didn't understand the assignment.
He did not understand the assignment. Instead, he said, you
know what, hell with this. Not only am I going
to vote with the Republicans on this Continuing Resolution, I
am going to get ten of us to stand in
lockstep to pass this. As you all may know, in
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the Senate, the United States Senate, most of us would
just think a simple majority, right would ensure that we
could pass policy. Well that's not the case. In order
for a cloture vote to happen, you have to have
sixty votes. So because of the margins in the margins
in the Senate, you normally are going to have to
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have some Democrats who side with Republicans to get the
bill to cloture, and then for the ultimate measure, whatever
that legislation is. Here was the Continued Resolution, which is
a budget how things will be funded throughout the government
or not funded, which is another big part. So they
voted for cloture, which means the overall bill could continue,
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and then they allowed the Republicans to get this measure
through that now gives Donald Trump and Elon Musk more
rain to do whatever they want to do. So regardless
of if you guys care about this or not, what
you've got to understand is that even at your job.
You have accountability. If you come into work late every day,
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you got to have a conversation with your boss. Right
after you had a conversation with your boss, you still
coming to work late. You are may get disciplined, maybe
some type of probationary period, and then you ultimately lose
your job. If the American people are telling you what
time it is, Chucky, if the American people are telling
you how they want you to vote, Chucky, I'm going
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to need you to fall in line. Friend. So that's
what's happening. So now Chuck Schumer's making his calls, he's
making his rounds, he's asking people for cover, he's asking
people for support. He's telling them, whatever you want to do,
I'll do it, man. We told you what to do. Man.
So here's the thing I want to know from y'all
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if you think that Chuck Schumer should face any consequence
for again, this is the Senate minority leader. He only
got but so much power. And mind you, let me
tell you. When the Republicans were in the minority, there's
a guy named Mitch McConnell who some of y'all might
have seen like this at a press conference, and he
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was stuck. He didn't get stuck when it was time
for them to debate a continuing resolution that they didn't like.
In twenty twenty one, when he didn't want to give
Joe Biden approval or be on the other side of
what they would what they would call a democratic rubber stamp,
he didn't give him no support, No, no, no, no no.
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Guess what Mitch McConnell did, friends, He philibustered that bill. Philibuster,
I'm so glad you asked. That means that he was
on the Senate floor talking that ish about the bill
because he didn't want the thing to pass. That's what
you do, you put up a little bit of fight.
And here's the problem. Me a political myself. I'm a
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political strategist. I grew up professionally in this stuff. I
love this stuff. I have been telling people for a
year that we are living, we will live under a
fascist regime if Donald Trump wins this election. Okay, I
have been and you know why I'm telling you that
because I believe it, and we're already seeing signs of it.
We have lost there's an index, a democracy index. We
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have lost standing on that democracy index. I believe the
words that are coming out of my mouth. I ain't line, y'all.
I believe that we are fifty two steps closer to fascism. Okay,
so I'm not telling you something I don't believe. So
my question is for folks in elected office who have
also said the same thing that me and my friends,
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people who are in the political process have said for
over a year that this will be fascism, that democracy
will be dead, which means only that people power will
exist no more. If we really believe that, why would
you vote in favor of giving somebody more reach like
Elon Musk would doge the Department of Government Efficiency that
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ain't even a real department. Why would you give Donald Trump,
who's signing in these executive actions, all these executive actions
that are not into law, rogue authority for him, abuses
of power for him trying to strengthen and garner more
presidential power, which he clearly doesn't need. There need to
be more checks and balances. Why would you give him
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more authority? And not even filibuster it. Y'all wanted to
keep the filibuster bro use the filipbuster. So I want
to just tell y'all about some other folks who didn't
quite get this right. Okay, So there were several several
Democrats who voted to support this measure, and I know
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that some of you have already been following this issue,
so you know who they are. I am going to
one of our graphics because y'all, my memory is bad
to pull up who the list of senators were that
voted for this bill, the Continuing Resolution. Some of them were,
for example, Kristin Gillibrand in New York. So why are
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you voting for it? What's on the line for you?
Catherine Cortes, mast them out of Nevada? Why are you
voting for it? Let me see who else voted for this.
I want to name everybody, because it's not just Chuck
Shoo who should be facing these consequences. It's the other
people too who voted for this. But I do think
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that he had an obligation and he didn't fulfill his obligation.
He's the leader, so if he gives them cover, which
means he gives them permission to vote for it, we
have a problem, you know. So let's see who else.
The vote was sixty two to thirty eight, and it
was a six month extension of the current budget, which
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means that in six months we're gonna be back here again,
probably before them. So Cinni Minority leader Chuck Schumer, John
Fetterman of Pennsylvania again, Catherine Cortes mass So of Nevada.
Dick Durbin, who is normally pretty good on issues of Illinois,
voted for this. Brian Shattz of Hawaii. Now, Brian, what
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you doing? Gary Peters of Michigan, really, what are you doing? Like?
Do these folks not realize they have people who would
be impacted by some of these cuts in their states.
Maggie Hassen of New Hampshire, a Grin again, Kirsten Gillibrand
of New York, and Jean Shaheen of New Hampshire, who,
by the way, says she's not going to uh seek
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office again, She's gonna step down after this term. So
what did you have to lose? Friend? And then Angus King,
who is an independent from Maine but caucuses with the Democrats.
That's what we're up against. So my position is you
need to make sure these people hear from you and
understand what's at stake here. There are those of you
who have been hearing us say this for weeks now
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that you need to call these members of Congress, make
your voices heard, ensure that they are doing the right thing.
And you're like, why should I care? Why should I
Why should I take my time to call them? I've
never seen them work for us? Why should I care? Well,
this is what I'm gonna tell you. Where I think
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black folks in particular have the greatest amount of power,
it is in our political power, and it is the
place where we will surrender it the easiest. We uh
forsake our obligation to hold these members of Congress accountable
whether they whether we believe they work for us or not,
they actually do. They are paid with our hard earned
taxpayer dollars. And so those are the reasons why you
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should care and really focus on. Hey, these I'm gonna
look at what this bill says it will do to
people in communities like mine. I'm gonna look at what
this bill will do to me personally. This is how
these things would harm me personally. I think those are
the kinds of conversations that we have to do now.
When that new shoe drops, or there's a a concert
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you want to go to, or there's you know, some
contest where you can earn some you know, participatedness and
you get a five hundred dollar gift card. Right, we
will bust a move. But when it's come, when it
comes time to protect our interest, we don't. And so
I really want to understand from you all why, like
what would keep you from engaging in that way. Our
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voices are sometimes all we have, and so we've got
to lift our voices and make sure that we hold
these people accountable. Now here's let me tell you some tea.
So Chuck Schumer been getting all this pressure, and what
he did was he has a new book out on
the rise of anti Semitism in America, and his little
book tour was supposed to start. His book tour was
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supposed to start in Baltimore Monday. So yesterday, y'all, Chuck
Schumer canceled the tour. And let me tell you why
he canceled the tour because some of you understood the
assignment in ways that he did not, in ways that
some of us have not. And you called his office
until they cut the phones off, and you blew up
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the social media accounts until they cut those off, and
they stopped responding, but the pressure was successful because he's
postponed the tour because he did not want to face
those who he hurt. And that is what this is
all about, y'all. We are in a different age. Something
more is required out of all of us. And I
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will tell you, honestly, I don't have all the answers.
I couldn't even remember all the Democrats who voted against
or voted for the continued Resolution. But what I can
tell you I know is that if we do extraordinary things,
we will experience extraordinary results. I want to hear from
y'all honestly on what else you think we can and
must do. I think that some people would say, how
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do y'all got all this time to be mad at
Chuck Schumer? You should be mad at the Republicans, Chiad.
We've been mad at them. We've been mad at them,
but they don't feel accountable to us. They say smartmouth
things to us when we raise our concerns to them.
We need to go first to the people who said
that they stood with us on issues, who go on
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our platforms to reach our people, who come to our
churches and ask for our votes, who come into our communities,
for Black History Months, gatherings and all the things in
the parade celebrating. Judent team voted for the holiday, but
when it comes time to protect the funding that will
keep us alive, we looking like where you at? Those
are the kinds of things that we need to be
wrestling with in this moment, and I think it is
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abundantly important that we start shifting our expectations and we
start shifting how we deal with elected officials who are
supposed to serve us. Let me tell you why, y'all.
Do you know there are whole communities of people who
know by default to call their elected officials, who know like, oh, well,
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if I host this fundraiser, I have an audience with
this person, They'll at least listen to what I have
to say. They know that if they go up to
Capitol Hill and request a meeting, that that member has
an obligation to hear from them. We have that power.
We just have decided that it's not important enough, or
or because I don't want to cast judgment. You might
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be in a position where you're like, hey, given the
work that I do and the hours that I work,
I don't have time to call. Maybe you work all
day and you're not allowed to make any personal calls,
so you can't call the Hill, or maybe you don't
you're not on social media, or maybe you're like, I
can't fly. I can't afford to fly to DC to
talk to these members in their face, only to potentially
get denied a meeting. I get it. But what you
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can do also is look up organizations in your area.
Maybe you're an educator, maybe you are, you know, a janitor,
Maybe you are in a labor union. Did you know
that these labor unions have relationships with these folks, that
there are education associations that have relationships with these folks.
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That maybe you care deeply about civil rights, so you
join the NAACP or Urban League or what have you,
and they have relationships with these folks. Maybe you prefer
to be a little more confrontational and you want to
sign a petition about it when you can go to
color Change right. Maybe you're seeing that there are people
who represent your interests better who are running for office
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in these neighborhoods. You can support that person. Now you
might say, Angela, I don't have money to give to
these members, and actually I wish we ken't money out
of politics all together. I understand that too. You can
phone Bank for that person, you can text Bank for
that person and push them. Now, some of y'all just
like me too, I'm not gonna lie. Maybe like well,
that sounds real cute and cool, but I don't know
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if there's gonna be another election. I'm with you. I
don't know either. But here's what I do know. We
have an obligation to do different. We are expecting extraordinary
things from Members of Congress, from elected officials in these
very trying times, but we are not doing extraordinary things ourselves.
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And calling your member of Congress and holding them accountable
or meeting with them or showing up to their town
hall is not an extraordinary thing. It is actually the
least you can do. And if you're not able to
do it, call a member of your family, call someone
in your community who you trust and ask them to
do it for with you. If you are intimidating, you
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could literally send a message to our ed Native lampod
or you can put a question in the chat today.
I'm looking on to Lo Lo too to see if
we have any questions today to ask them, you know,
to help. Can you help you can ask us to help.
We would love to. We love those questions. Every week
we answer questions on our main show that drops Thursday.
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But you just have to send in your question to
Lolo our dm our Native Lampod on Instagram at Native
Lampod on Instagram. You can send a question and say, Okay,
I want to let's run this through. Let's like trial
and error. We can try to call somebody tomorrow. But yeah,
I think that we should do some of those things.
Let me get to some of these questions before we're
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out of time. Thanks Sol for Senandy. So, why did
Chuck say that the filibuster would give Trump more power?
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Is it true if the government shuts down, Trump has
a better plan hand. So here's a real thing. What
Donald Trump wanted in this instance was for the government
to stay open. This bill helps the government stay open.
A lot of federal workers were saying themselves, shut it
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down because it's been shut down anyway. That's what we've
been saying on the podcast for a little over a week.
It has been shut Now, what they're doing is an
abuse of power, and so they're engaging and shut down tactics.
They just dismantled the Department Education. Do you know the
same day that the Senate passed the continuing resolution that
Chuck Schumer put his staff of approval on and endorsed
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and passed and voted yes on. Did you know that
same day that Donald Trump dismantled the Minority Business Development Agency?
Did you know that he ended the CDFI fund what
helps to which helps to ensure balance and fair access
to poor communities to financial services and resources. That's what
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we're up again. So the government's been shut down and
he doesn't need them to pass any bill to do that,
So we should be using this time to hold them accountable. Like, yeah, bro,
I would love to vote on your little bill, but
until you rein and Elon Musk, I ain't got no
time for that. Yeah, bro, I would love to vote
on your little bill, but until you I'm signing executive
actions that you think went through the legislative process, I
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ain't got no time for that. That's how you handle that.
You do not meet someone who is a dictator and
an abuser of power by giving them more access and power.
That's not how that works. Come on, we gotta know
better than that. We gotta fight better than that. Fighting
back is not saying yes, that is surrender. And that's
why I really believe that Chuck Schumer in his incendency too.
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But I don't believe he's gonna run again. The word
on the street is he is not going to pursue
office again. So he should be more bolder than more
bold than ever. Right. I'm not talking about him stepping
down from his seat, because that's gonna take too long.
I'm talking about stepping down from leadership because if you
can't lead, and you can't lead with courage, and you
can't follow what the people who sent you want. And
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I'm not talking about the small minority of donors who
wanted you to pass that bill for defense funding. I'm clear,
I see you, Bro, I'm not talking about them, talking
about the people who wanted the federal government workers who
you claim to be standing in solidarity with as they
sue to get access to their jobs and to keep
their jobs. I'm not talking about the small number of
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donors who had a business interest in this bill passing.
I'm saying that your values are off, and because your
values are off, you don't deserve to lead the American
people on the centate side. That's what I really believe.
I would like to go over what's being cut, but
instead of me doing that, I'm actually going to refer
you to our last podcast from Thursday where we talk
about that in detail, Elizabeth. But I did answer your
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first question, Percy Miracles. What's the Democrats specific black agenda
ain't one boom. We got to make one, and we
have to demand that they are held accountable to that.
I love this. Then this goes right back to the
heart of what we were really saying. Boston Baby sixty
eight says, I've called and left messages. What impact did
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it really have? What I can tell you is that
I know for a fact that Chuck Schumer has been
scrambling making calls to people asking for help, and it
might have been your call. I think they might have
said Boston Baby called me. So let me go ahead
and do what I need to do. Let me at
least ask a question. But I do want you to
know it is a part of our collective action when
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we come together and say, it's not about who the
person leading it is. It's not about if it goes
exactly my way. Lolo knows about that. Me and Lolo
both hardheaded and We like for things to be in
our way, in our language, but it doesn't have to
be that if we agree on the end goal, which
often is the liberation for people. Me personally, I'm always
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talking about the liberation for black people. The only way
to liberation is for people to be on one accord.
So if you can't agree on how we get there,
if you can't agree on when we get there, if
you can't agree on the tactics for how we get there,
we're going to have a problem. And I think that
it is dangerous enough in this country right now. We
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have got to pivot. The tactics of the past have
got us so far, thank you. It is time for
the tactics of the present. It's time for the tactics
of future generations. And so I'm not suggesting that we
leave it at a call. I'm suggesting that we launch
a campaign to call for his resignation as the minority leader.
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Because it's not that Chuck. Maybe. I mean, some people
would argue he's always been a bad leader. Some people
would say, eh, it's indifferent. But what I guess, what
I'm telling you all is we are living in unprecedented
times and we need innovation and creativity and boldness and
courage to get us through this season. If we don't
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have that in leadership for the people who have to
sit down with Donald Trump, not the people who are
in the background whispering laughing with him in the Oval
office and at these different public gatherings, but people who
really believe that this man is the threat we said
he is, then that means we got to take a
one eighty. That means we got to try a different approach.
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That means that the season and the time that we're
in requires something greater of us. So let us lean
into what that greater might be. I would love to
hear from you all on what you think this moment
requires from us politically, psychologically, economically, Like y'all, I really
think we should be moving like this is turning into fascism.
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We should know where we're going to get our food from.
We should know how to contact people if they're not
saved in our phone. We should know some phone numbers
by heart. We should have all of our documents. Do
you have your birth certificate? Do you have your Social
Security card? Because they cut back on Social Security access right,
do you have your passport? If you don't have a passport,
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hurry up and go get one. If it's near expiration,
maybe you have six months left, go get your passport. Okay.
For people who are like, stop up on nonperishables. If
you can afford a generator, get a generator. If you
have a neighbor that you're close to and y'all can
go in on a generator, get a generator. Okay, I'm
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telling you, I'll figure out how we can grow some crops.
I want to learn how to farm, y'all. Okay, I'm
not in the right place again. I'm in Seattle, but
like I need to learn how. I need to know.
And if I'm not the farmer, can I, you know,
put some resources into somebody who is one. I am
not trying to scare you. What I'm trying to tell
you is I don't know what we're up against, and
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I don't know where we are going from here. But
I know that we can create a vision of the
America that we want to see. I know that we
can hold accountable those in power for the America that
we want to see. And we must demand change, we
must demand to move different. But those demands all start
with us. So until next time. I'm so grateful to
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be here with you all. I wouldn't mind if you
posted Shumer must step down. I wouldn't mind if you
told us who you think should be leading the Democrats
in the Senate. I want to know. We know who's
leading the Republicans, Donald Trump on every level, because don't
nobody else have a backbone or a spine in his party?
So our folks can look the same way, right, So
let's move different. Let's do our parts so we can easily,
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in an integrity call upon them to do their parts.
And until next time, welcome home. I'll see y'all in
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