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Britney Spears said that after her very public breakup with Justin Timberlake in 2002, she was holed up in her Manhattan penthouse and “could hardly speak” because she was “in shock.” Kim Kardashian filed court documents including a declaration in which Kardashian’s attorney claims the reality star has been “attempting to settle this matter” since February. Hilaria Baldwin wrote, “Alec shushed me while I was in labor with Rafa … He was on the phone ‘Shush! Can you keep it down?’”

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Advice shoot Spice, Hello Lollo, Welcome to the Naughty but
I'm your host. Drum Shooter is Wednesday, which means anyone
thing around. Hey, are our dear friend Donnie? Meet Chum
from Okay magazine dot com joins us, Donnie, are you there? Hello? Hellola?
Wednesday my favorite day of the week. It has already

(00:30):
been a crazy week with the webcast. And they don't
know how to act right. We thought with the holidays
of its slow down, don't know how to act right.
They don't know, they don't know, they don't know. You
would think during the holiday show, right during the holidays,
things would get quiet to actually gets louder because they're
all at home. None of them are workings that all
causing trouble. But we are here for that on the

(00:52):
Naughty Button Night Show, Naughty but Nice trouble. Hey, let's
jump in, my friends. What time is it? Ease te
big story at the time by the show, Britney Spears
is slamming Diane Sawyer for a two thousand and three interview,
saying Diane can kiss my white bottom. She says a
different word, but you know the word I mean. So
Brittany has said that after she broke up with Justin

(01:13):
timber League in two thousand and two. She was hold
up in her Manhattan apartment and she didn't really want
to speak to anybody. Her dad turns up at the
apartment and demand she does an interview with Diane Sawyer.
Let me explain. Brittany said the following quote. I never
spoke to anybody for a long time. I was in shock,

(01:34):
pretty lame of my dad and three men to show
up at my door when I was hardly speaking. Two
days later, they put Diane Sawyer in my living room.
They forced me to talk. I was a baby and
didn't understand, but I effing no. Now, all, well, this
is quite a revelation, so much so that even Brittany

(01:57):
has deleted it, but she didn't delete it before. Mom
liked the post. Come on, Danny, what do you think,
oh Lynn spears? But no, I remember this interview. It
was cringeworthy and it's just Back then though, we all
thought of it as Oh Brittany, the silly little Southern
pop star. She's so funny, And then now you think

(02:17):
about it, you're like her dad, Jamie really sunk his
teeth into her at a very young age. She was
in her early twenties during this, and he forced her
to get out there and speak when she wasn't ready.
It's just upset and just carried on through. Yeah, yeah,
it wasn't just the dad. Diane has certainly had something
to do with this. Diane said the following to her quote,
you broke his heart talking about justin you did something

(02:39):
that caused him so much pain. She said, it like
that and so much suffering. What did you do? Well?
That frames Brittany as the villain here now Britney saying,
Diane can kiss my white A s. S. But this
is bringing up something that's really interesting to me, particularly
as a media professional. Donnie. The times have changed. When

(03:03):
we used to do interviews, we used to love to
get a SoundBite. We used to try and trick people
into saying something crazy and then we could get tons
of hits. Now I think we want conversations, and I
think Diane's style back then is something that she wasn't
alone doing. This also been complaints about Barbara Walters recently,
and let's not forget Matt Lauer interviewed Britney Spears and

(03:25):
he made her cry to Diane. Has also been criticized
for the way she interviewed Whitney Houston. Do you remember
that interview. I mean, at the time I watched it
with twenty other million people like I couldn't turn away.
Now it's really wrong, Donnie. I think we're in a
better place, and it really hurts me that somebody like

(03:46):
Brittany went through this. But I think a lot of
stars went through this. Back then, this was the norm.
Diane interviewed everybody like this, and we used to think
Diane asks the hard questions. Now I think Diane asked
the rude questions. No, I agree. Back then, it really
was it was got your journalism. It was let's ask

(04:07):
the most outrageous questions to see what you can say,
no matter of these young And it's sad to say
it was mostly young women. You never saw young Where
was justin timber Lake's interview, why did you allegedly cheat
on Brittany, which is reportedly what happened. He was never
asked those hard questions, and it's really sad to see.
And I agree with you. I think now we have

(04:29):
changed a lot, and that these people don't ask these
types of they don't they well, they've gone Diane semi retired.
I remember when Jessica Simpson broke up with Nick Lash,
Diane Sawyer personally called me ring ring ding dong. It's
Diane Sawyer and she asked me if Jessica would sit
down with her. We said no, there's no way. She
didn't ask for Nick. She didn't want Nick Na Shay.

(04:51):
She wanted Jessica to sit down, and she could have
asked her all these terrible questions implying that the marriage
broke up because of Jessica. It's really interesting because this is,
I say, we always blame the woman, or that's at
least what it seems to be to me, which brings
us to our pole question of the day. Britney Spears
is slamming Diane Sawyer for a two thousand and three

(05:11):
interviews She said she can kiss my white a s
s does Diane, Oh, Brittany an apology? What do you think?
Go vote on our Twitter page at naughty Nice Rob
and Facebook painting is naughty Bambi Sewer to check back
tomorrow to hear your results. Donny Love, what are you
working on? Or? Speaking of another strong woman, Kim Kardashian,

(05:33):
she's speaking out and She's basically saying no counseling will
save her failed marriage to Kanye West. So Kim recently
filed she wanted to be declared legally single. We all
have to remember she filed for divorce papers way back
in February. As a process, it's a process. Yeah. Well,
in these new documents, and she basically the lawyers saying

(05:55):
she's been trying to settle this matter a divorce since February.
And she also noted that her marriage to West is
broken down. It's basically nothing can save it, and goes
on Kardashi and has no desire to reconcile with Kanye
and once their marriage terminated. It's not funny because it
seems like now Kanye is in the news basically begging

(06:18):
for him to come back. Yeah, begging. It's weird timing.
It is weird timing. But I think him is out
of this. It is over once you file these legal documents.
But you know, if you want to end your marriage
and your marriage, you don't have to convince the course
that you've tried to save it. Like when did that
suddenly become a requirement. Just the fact that I don't
want to be married to you any longer should be enough.

(06:38):
But do I have to prove that we went to therapy?
Do I have to prove that I tried everything possible?
I think him did. But even if she didn't, that's
her business, it's her life, and if she doesn't want
to be married, I don't get this. It was really
perplexing to me that her attorney had to file all
these documents. Shouldn't it just be enough that King says,

(07:02):
I don't want to be married anymore. I don't thank
you anymore. I thank you anymore. I don't get it
moving along. So Queen Elizabeth is going to carry on
for some time, that's what sources say. So recently she
was hospitalized. We've been talking about her health in a
loving way on this podcast. However, now a new special

(07:22):
by People magazine called Royals is out and they have
some insightful information saying that she has an ability to
compart mentalize and this has been very helpful in her life.
So at the moment, lots of things are going on
that are not good. Harry and Megan, her Son, Oh
my goodness, her son, Prince Andrew, and Jeffrey Epstein. Also

(07:43):
to her own health, there's a lot going on here,
and the way she gets up every day and does
their job is she can compart mentalize. I am exceptionally
good at this, Donny, are you uh No, I'm not
gonna lie. I let everything affect me, and it runs
throughout my entire life. It also helps. It goes without

(08:05):
saying the queen does have a little bit of money
just help to make you live a little longer. And
of them, well, it doesn't. It's a little bit of
help if you staff in that palace of hers. So
I do get it, but I do think this is
very interesting. I can compartmental lies. So if you're upset
me ten minutes ago, I can move on really quickly.

(08:25):
I can put that in a box. I'm not saying
that I necessarily deal with it in a healthy way,
but I can put it in a box. If something
happens later on, I can put that in a box.
If I you tell me a piece of gossip and
then I get for dinner with Bruce, I can turn
off work and turn into a personal rob quite quickly.
I don't let anything that happens ten minutes ago affect

(08:47):
ten minutes from now unless I have to. When they
say The Queen is absolutely marvelous at that. They said. Fundamentally,
she puts things in boxes and says, if that can
be dealt with on Tuesday, we'll deal with it on Tuesday.
This is why she's so mentally disciplined, and it's helped
get her through the seventy years. They go on to
say that she is going to continue working as long
as possible. She does miss her husband, Prince. She does

(09:10):
miss her husband, Prince Philip, and they say companionship was
something that meant so much to her after all those years. However,
she's a very stupic person and also to her faith.
Her faith keeps her going during these hard times. Hey,
Queen Elizabeth, I like this, I really do. She's been
the only queen, so to speak, I've ever known, Like

(09:33):
from the day I was born, she was on that throne, Donny.
I mean, obviously it's going to come to an end
at some time, but I hope that she's there as
long as possible. Hey, what's going on talking about age
with Taylor Swift? On her birthday? Well, Taylor Swift, she
is given reason to celebrate her birthday. She had an

(09:53):
intimate party surrounded by her best friends, the Heim Sisters,
which I happened to love that. I actually bought tickets
to see them at the Hollywood Bowl next year. I
just bought him last week, super excited about saying them.
So maybe Taylor Swift will be there and we can
like hop now with her. In fact. Anyways, so she
was there and she celebrated a birthday with them with

(10:14):
Alana Heim, who turned thirty on December. She goes, don't
say it. This part made me laugh. Don't say it,
don't say it. Okay, I'm gonna say I'm feeling thirty
two because if you remember, there was that song which
is gonna make you emmy and some of the listeners
feel really old. Those were a good company two. She

(10:36):
had a song called twenty two that I danced to
in the club and I twirled around. I just love
it some, but she had it. Don't worry. We tested everyone.
It's funny now that you can't have a party without
giving an exclaimer of like I'd once been COVID tested.
We all say, she knows everybody. Millions of people are
going to see these pictures before you can say anything.

(10:57):
She's preempted you. I do love it, though, but What
was amazing though, is ego Fife fans and know it's
a little something. On swift birthday, it was a photo
of the singer wearing a little mermaid showed while opening
her mouth wide open. First. I always loved that the
fans always noticed lead detail everything. I am no Taylor Swift,

(11:21):
but I posted a picture of my Christmas tree and
there's my book on the coffee table. And I didn't
actually product place it. I just took a picture of
the tree. No, you shame ship. Had I placed it,
it would have been hanging on the top of the tree.
Let me tell you that I'm not subtle. I'm not subtle. Quickly,
before we get a break, Ben Affleck is getting brutally

(11:41):
honest about Jay Lo had his ex wife, Jennifer Garner,
so he did an interview with Howard Stern and he
was asked if he thought twice about getting back together
with Jennifer. He responded quotes it crossed my mind. For Shua,
my responsibility to my children is the highest responsibility. I
don't want to do anything that is painful or destructive

(12:01):
to them if I can help it. Now, with both
parents being at movie stars, him and Jennifer Gardner. He said,
his children, all three of them, are under the microscope
their entire lives, and it does affect their lives. And
he said that's actually a cross that he has to carry.
He goes on to say about his relationship with Jennifer
Gardner and why they got divorced. He said, the truth is,

(12:23):
we took our time and we made a decision and
we grew a part. We had a marriage that didn't work.
We tried because we had kids. We did not want
this to be the model though for our children. He
also addresses his struggles with alcohol is m saying he
hit rock bottom, and he said, you know what. The

(12:44):
cure he's for addiction In as far as Benn is concerned,
the cure for addiction is suffering. You suffer enough before
something inside you says it's enough. I thought that was
so interesting, Donnie, what do you think? I think it's burn.
I really love that here. Lately Ben has been able
to come to terms, I think, with the split with

(13:06):
Jennifer Garner and been able to really be honest about
how his alcoholism affected their relationship. And I think a
lot of people out there need to hear that the women,
but also men out there who might suffer with it,
who say it's okay to admit it and just be
able to reflect on it and moved past it. It's
so smart. When I got fired once, I remember, I

(13:27):
started drinking a little more, and then two days turned
into three days into four days, and I found myself
like drunk for probably about a month, and I was
just numbing my feelings, Dannie. I was in so much pain.
I was so embarrassed that I had been fired. I'd
been tossed. Assigned is what I thought everybody was saying.
Nobody was saying it, but I felt like they were.

(13:48):
My narcissism was so great. I thought everybody was talking
about me. Nobody cared less. And I drank and I
drank and I drank, and I wasn't drinking for fun
though I was drinking because I was in paying that
And when I've figured that out, Donnie, now I use
alcohol to celebrate. Alcohol now is part of my life
to go out with my friends you miss d Lupo,

(14:09):
Corey and Garrett, everybody else and have fun. I think
Ben talking about this is so so major, and I
get it. He's an academy award winning actor writer. I
think this might be his finest, finest work. Hey, we're
gonna take a quick break and we will be welcome

(14:33):
by to the Lord. Rob shoots him at that. Dear
friend Donny Natscham from Okay magazine dot com. Hey, Donny,
let's get to the polls. You do go in full
force and he appreciate that. So Kim Kardashian scotlded Northwest
for going live on TikTok in the house without permission.

(14:54):
The video was great. So norm is walking around the
house live streaming the house to the world. She walks
into her mommy's bedroom. Kim is in bed, and she announcewers,
Mommy were live at Kim's face is not having any
of it. She shuts it down. My question was would
you laugh at north or would you scold her? Seven

(15:18):
percent said scold her. Oh I'm the opposite. I'm burst
out laughing. Where are you on this, doney, I'm gonna
she's eight years old and she is too young, and
your mom is Kim. You don't know. I mean we've
but we have seen that. We have seen eight years old.

(15:40):
With the Kardashians, we think of them as reality stars,
and they are people really controlling to every image they
put up. It's filtered. Everything is just perfect. You know
who's going to have a talk with her, Chris Jedda,
not Kim. Kim's texted her, Kim's Kim's told her off,
let's be clear, So Braddy comes over. She could have

(16:02):
sold that footage four thousands. Don't forget toads on the
day's pole. Get away to the page at Naughty rum
Or Facebook page. Already gossip and me to check back
tomorrow to hear your results. And now it's time for
our nicest of the day. Well, seems to be a

(16:24):
Kim Kardashian jay here, so go with a nice though.
She's fine. She's addressing cultural appropriation allegations. For as long
as I've known Kim Kardaeshi, and people have kind of
slammed her. Some would say she was doing black face
or appearing to do black by putting her hair in
corn rolls and stuff. Well, she finally spoke out about it.
And she's also she has four black children. Let's not

(16:47):
forget this. And she did speak out, and she goes,
I would never do anything to appropriate any culture, but
I have in the past, got backlash from putting my
hair and braids, and I understand that she goes honestly.
A lot of the time it comes from my daughter
asking us to do matching hair. Honest explanation, she goes.
But I've learned and I've grown over the years and

(17:09):
figured out good ways to communicate with all my kids
about all this. But there's also the history of braiding
hair in Armenia, and people forget that I'm Armenian as well, right,
I love, I appreciate this response. I do turn. I
looked at kim Is addressing this head on that you're
nicest of the day and now and not he is
the day shame. Hilaria Baldwin, Hillary says Alec Baldwin while

(17:34):
she was in labor. I'm convinced Hilaria Baldwin is trying
to destroy Alec Baldwin's entirely, whatever's left of it. Why
would she tell us this? As she wrote, Alex shushed
me while I was in Heber. He was on the
phone and he said, can't you keep that down? What
is she telling you? Then he realized that he sounded

(17:55):
like an A S S yes, and he cowered, all
of which yes, he should be carrying, but you shouldn't
be telling us this. She went on to say to
her follow us that the details of her reaction for now,
She's going to spare us of those, and she did
mention that Alec has never hushed her again while she
was giving birth. This is a horrific story. And Alec

(18:21):
is in the middle of a redemption tour following this
rust fatal shooting. This is Hillary tweety. You gotta keep
your mouth shut. Hillary. Is she just trying to just
destroy him like she just out there forget the moment,
just her mission? What's going on? Buce he needs now, Hillary,

(18:43):
Hillary is outrageous. Let's end with her moment. I'll rob you,
get Rubbi, Get Robbi, Get rob Instead of looking for empathy,
be the one that gives it. Take the responsibility for
caring about your own suffering, because that is far too
important to hand over to anybody else. What I'm talking

(19:03):
about here is holding a grudge. When you hold a grudge,
when you're angry with somebody, you give your suffering to them.
They can control your suffering. Take it back if you
were suffering, And goodness knows, a lot of us are suffering.
Then take control of that yourself. Forgive yourself, don't hold
a grudge any any more. And instead of looking for

(19:27):
empathy when you enter a room when you're with your friends,
don't look for it, give it. That's beautiful. And I
think one thing you really nailed on the heir there
is self. Forgiveness is so important because even though other
people may forgive us for a dumb comment we made,
we can still hold it in and it wears on
our soul. You just gotta be able to just say,

(19:47):
I forgive me beautiful, and it would be beautiful. Amen.
That's it for today. Thank you so much for listening
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(20:09):
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