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Advice shoge low low low lower lower. Welcome to the
not even nice. I'm your host, job Shooter. It is Tuesday,
which means our dear friend Delena Dixon is joining us.
De Lana, are you there? I am, oh, Mr Shooter.
We had something fun yesterday. We did we did, we
did so yesterday after the Oscars, the Lena and my
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good self were invited to be guests on Good Day
New York, a TV show here in New York VTV
show here in New York. Let's not be modest. I
think it outrates the Today Show here in New York City,
a massive show. We were on. It was fun, Delana,
isn't it fun being back on TV? It was so
much fun And I couldn't be sitting next to a
better person than you. I've learned from the best, and
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it was just it went so quickly. Though. I need
a whole I need a whole hour. I know, I
know more goodness nose on this show. We can talk.
You know that, my friends. So let's jump in to
the show. What time is it tea time big breaking story?
Could Will Smith actually lose his oscar? So Will Smith
may be asked to hand back his statue for Best
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Actor following his outrageous behavior on stage assaulting Chris rock
Oscar bosses are meeting in the top secret emergency talks
to decide whether or not they should strip Will Smith
of his Best Actor award. Inside us are said to
be furious. Members of the Academy are furious. I'm told
it was a zoom meeting and several members demanded that
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Will not only handback his statue, but he also be
asked to leave the organization. Last night, after the Oscars,
the Academy put out a tweet saying the following, The
Academy does not condone violence in any form. Tonight, we
are delighted to celebrate the Academy Award winners, and they
go on to recognize the winners. They really want nothing
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to do with this drama twenty four hours ago. Now,
I'm told, Mr. The pendulum is swinging and there is
a strict guideline, a code of conduct for winners. And
this really came up in about two thousand and seventeen
following all the horrible accusations, particularly Harvey Weinstein, and now
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members have to be respectable and they have to respect
human dignity. Inclusion all these values now you have to
uphold to be a member of the Academy. Clearly slapping somebody,
even if you think it was the right thing to do,
defending your wife, We've heard some people say that it's
still something that is against the code of conduct. What
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are your things going to happen here? Where are we
going to land? This one's a tough one, and we
do take a moment. We spoke about this. You know,
Jada suffers from alopecia, which means you lose your hair.
It's something I know a lot about and it can
be debilitating. And people are saying that that's what made
her upset, and that's where he felt the need to
defend her. But we can never use violence to solve
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the situation. And what's so upsetting for me is that
this was supposed to be Will's moment. It was supposed
to be a moment of joy and happiness. He finally
got his oscar, and now it's going to be marred
for the rest of his life by this situation. If
he could have just taken two seconds to think about
do I want to do this action? When I could
have talked to Chris Rock afterwards, or do I want
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to enjoy my moment and this is how he's going
to have to remember it. I think there's gonna be
a lot of discussion about whether or not he can
keep it, because does this set up precedent that anybody
can jump on stage and do what they want to do.
It's going to be a tough one, it really is.
You've got to pay for the things that you do.
Actions have consequences. Will be Goldberg Jesse shoot a statement
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saying she's on the board, the Academy board, and there
are no plans at the moment to revoke Will Smith's oscar.
People Magazine are reporting right now that there were actual
discussions during the oscars to remove him from the ceremony.
So People Magazine are saying, behind the scenes, a lot
of people had different voices. They were weighing in on
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what exactly they should do, what was the quickest, the
best course of action. They also were checking in on
Chris Rock to make sure he was okay. Sources say, basically,
they just had a few minutes to figure all this out,
and at first they thought it might be a stunt
to They thought this had gone crazy wild and the
producers were like, what's happening? They did these two guys
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planned this. Once it became clear that was not the case,
they then had a real serious discussions about removing marching
Will Smith out of the award showed. This brings us
to our phole question of the day. Should Will Smith
lose his Oscar? It's that simple. Should they take back
his Oscar? Should Will Smith lose his oscar? Hey? Go
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Facebook pages Naughty Gossip and by sure to chang back
tomorrow to your results are on the well. If you
think that Will Smith was crying in a corner feeling
really bad about this and just staying by himself after
the show, that is not the case. He actually went
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to a party and after Oscar party, the party Vanity Fair.
He had his wife with him, Jada Pinkett Smith, and
his kids and he was dancing and having a grand
old time. So he hit the dance floor. They were
playing is getting Jiggy with It? And of course it
was recorded on the cameras that are not supposed to
be in the Vanity Fair party. You guys might not
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know this, but you're not supposed to bring in any
type of recording equipment while this party is supposed to
be going on. So so it's as we spoke about.
As we spoke about, people are still wondering what's going
to happen here? Is Will going to lose his award?
But he was surrounded by his family and after he
slapped Chris Rock, his son Jaden posted on Twitter and
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that's how we do it. So he's got his family support. Actually, Rob,
I've had a minute to think about this, and I
think this may be the case of what they do
with Will Smith. I think he may never be able
to come back to the Oscars, not be able to
give out the award next year for the best Winning
Actor or the Best Lead Actor, and really not be
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able to come to awards in the future even if
he's nominated. And I think that may be a fair.
You can keep your awards, you did the work, you
get to keep it, but the price you pay is
that you can never again come and be a part
of Wow. Yeah. I mean he's a hero to young people,
not just his son Jaden. The young people look up
to him. And now if they think that this is acceptable.
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When Jayden posted quote and that's how we do it?
Is that really how we do it? If somebody says
something that you don't like, the disrespects a family member
that disrespects you, do is slap them in the faces.
That the message that the Academy is signing off on
is that okay with them. Rosie O'Donnell certainly is speaking
out saying that the Academy should have done something about
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quote a madman, Will Smith, She tweeted at them, quote
why didn't you do anything? Why did you do nothing?
She followed up with a message supporting Chris Rock, saying
it was really upset into her on many many levels.
And bravo to Chris Rock, who kept his calmer after
Will slapped him, and she said, it's a sad display
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of toxic masculinity from a narcissistic mad man. Now Rob Reiner,
who's a really famous director too, he spoke out to
saying that there should be some consequences here to Will's action.
Also to Maria Shriver, she said the following quote, we
should never get to a place where we sit and
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watch a movie star hits somebody on National TV. Moments
later gets her standing ovation while talking about love so
lots and lots of people coming forward. I think at first,
mister Hollywood, everybody was so shocked by this. We said nothing.
We were all like, what now is the as the
hours turn into days and we digest this, Now people
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are starting to speak at I feel the pendulum swinging, mister.
After the event, even though I was really shocked by it,
a lot of people were on Will's side when he
walked into the Vanity Fair party. He got a standing
ovation when he when he gave his speech about five
minutes after slapping Chris, he got a standing ovation. Now
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people are starting to back off that. Can you feel
that too in your reporting, Mistery The tides turning? Oh absolutely,
I think people are having time to digest it, and
my sources are telling me that they're definitely thinking this
was not right and we have to handle in a
way so nothing like this happens again. But of course
I spoke to the most important person to wait in
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on this situation, and that would be Mummady, my mother,
and she else that Will Smith should not be able
to keep his oscar. Oh yes, it's so interesting. I
have so many different groups of friends, and I know
in life we want to treat everybody as an individual.
We should, but there are certain categories in our lives
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broadly here, and it's very broadly. My female friends think
that this is outrageous, My gay friends think it's terrible.
My straight male friends are on Will's side. So it'll
be interesting to see what group you fall into. Hey,
what group does the l a p D fall into? Misty, Well,
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the l a p D has issued a statement and
basically they're saying they are not investigating the incident that
took place at this time because Chris Rock did not
press charges. But they did say if the party desires
a police report at a later date, l a p
D will be available to complete an investigative report. And
this was an official statement from the l a p
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I think this was really complicated. Let me speak for
the black community. I think it's really difficult because it's
a black man who was finally getting what he thought
was his moment in time and he felt that it
was marred by this this statement, which we know actually
approved by producers to say this joke, and most of
the time people just laugh it off. It's not like
Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith were the first people
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to be made fun of at the Oscars. It's all
in good fun. You're making millions of dollars doing what
a million people in the world would love to do,
make movies. Be able to laugh at yourself. Yes. Yes.
Earlier in the evening, Amy Schuman made fund of Leonardo
DiCaprio's young girlfriends, and he didn't storm the stage and
get angry about that. I hope I'm not having a
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false equivalency here, but definitely it's interesting. The l a
p D issued a statement, and then finally, before we
go to break, we should point out there has been
history between Chris Rock and Will Smith and his family,
so Rock Smith and Jada do have some back history here.
Rock appeared on Will's sitcom The Fresh Prince of bel
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Air in He also was a voiceover actor along with
Jada in three animated Mada Gascar films. If you've been
in three films together, you can know each other. My
inside has called me. That's when the drama really started.
Also to in two thousand and sixteen, when Chris was
the host of the Awards show, he made fun of
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Jada for saying that she thought they should boycott the Oscars.
Remember the hashtag oscar so white Well, Jada said she
wasn't going, she was there. Chris made fun of her
during that show. He also made fun of Will Smith,
saying that he couldn't believe Will got paid twenty million
dollars for Wild wild West, not a good film. I
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think that's funny. I hope you agree. But now it's
put everybody in a very difficult position. What can you say?
What can't you say? I do think you're onto something.
They're mistery movie stars that are paid tens of millions
of dollars, sitting at an award show, drinking champagne, wearing
tens of thousands of dollars of Gucci Amani Proude of
the best clothes in the world. Goodness, can we not
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laugh at ourselves anymore? What do you think we have to?
I mean, that's the only way that you're going to
get through life. Look, this award ceremony was happening while
there's a massive bombings happening in Ukraine. They're fighting for
their lives. So you should be able to to laugh
at jokes about yourself. You know, you all understand nobody
likes to be insulted. If you love somebody. You don't
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want them to be insulted, but sometimes you got to
take a moment. You gotta give your side. I and
I feel like it's different for men and women. I
know I would have probably given some sidea and had
some words to say after the fact that made it
very clear if you ever say anything like that about
my wife again, I will cut you. Chris Luck would
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have learned from and said I'm not going to do
that again. Let's just not go there. So initially Will
Smith was laughing in a Jada gave a side I
my friend Fiana. You know, Fiana is a big publicist.
Fianna said to me, Jada should have slapped Will for laughing.
That's who should have got slapped her husband for laughing
initially at this joke. It is so much more complicated
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than we first see. But I do think there are
going to be consequences. And I think the minute is
Dwan breaks. The minute one or two people in Hollywood
turn against Will, it's gonna come flooding, flooding, flooding out.
And can I just put it out there that he
has a really big project with nat Gio that's supposed
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to be going down to Antarctica, and I'm just wondering
this might not just affect him just on a mental
level or whatever happens to the academy, this could affect
his livelihood because why would people want to work with
somebody who is so volatile. You've got to think about
these things. It happens at every level. You can't just
go in your job and do whatever you're gonna do.
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You get fired. Fired, you'd be fired immediately, you'd be
escorted out of the company. And I think this is
why people get angry with Hollywood. It seems like there
are different rules for rich, powerful movie stars. Hey, we're
going to take a quick break and we will be right.
Welcome back to the even Nice Show on Rock Shot
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with our dear friend Missy. Hey, Missy, let's get to
the polls. Do so. Yesterday we were talking about Will
Smith and our question was should Will have been arrested
and escorted out of the oscars after hitting Chris Rock?
Yes or no? Let's have a look, Yes he should
have been arrested. Don't forget to vote on today's poll.
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It's a good one. Go to our Twitter page at
Naughty Nice Rob or at Facebook page which is naughty Ghazi,
but miss, sure to check back tomorrow to here your results. Hey, miss,
after all this drama, let's do a nice of the day.
At least the show ended on a really wonderful note
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which was brought to us by Lady Gaga and the
incomparable Liza minnell So basically for the last award, Lady
Gaga came out with Liza Minnelli, who was in a wheelchair,
and she proved. Lady Gaga proved to be a supportive
co presenter for Miss Manelli at the ninety four Annual
Academy Awards and they were giving the biggest price. So
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now Gaga is thirty six, Miss Manelli is forty years older,
and as the crowd cheer, the House of Gucci, actress
grasped Miss Manelli's hand and said, do you see that
the public they love you? Now you know she's older
and Miss Manelli and she seemed to get a little
confused as she was going through her cards. She she
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just didn't seem like she knew what to do next,
and Gaga told her don't worry, I got it. And
Gaga also went on to say, you know how I
love working with legends and I'm honored to present the
final award of the evening with a true show business legend.
And sources are telling me that Gaga actually asked to
present with Liza Minnelli, and justin caused you to notice
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what Lady Gargo was wearing. She did not walk the
carpet that night, but she was wearing to give out
this final oscar, this liquid tuxedo, and it was very
much in a cabaret style, paying homage to when Miss
Manelli did cabaret back in the seventies. Wow, the nicest
of the day. Lessend with that, naudios of the day.
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It's p did he so did? He is claiming Will
Smith and Chris Rock have already made up. He told
Paid six that's not a problem, it's over. I can
confirm it's all love now. TMZO reporting that isn't true,
and Chris Rock has not spoken to Will Smith, and
they went on to say nobody's buried the hatchet here.
In fact, Chris was stunned by the situation. He went
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straight up to his dressing room after the slab and
there has been no communication between the two men ever since. Chris,
who had no intention of staying after the show, he
went up to his dressing room, then he left the
building inside as are saying, he was shaken and bewildered.
He did go to Guya Serrie Madonna's Oscar party, so
Chris Rock did go there trying to end the night
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by having some fun at least. But our naughtiest of
the day is Diddy, Diddy, Diddy. How would you know this, Diddy?
You didn't speak to either one of them, and here
he is doing press conferences on the red carpet, had
Vanity Fair announcing to page six the world they've made peace. Diddy,
Diddy Diddy a naughtiest of the day. Let's end with
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a moment of Robb. You gonna again, You're gonna, Rob,
Mister it's very shut today. It's a very short sentence,
but I think we can all get behind this. Violence
is never proof of love. Violence is never ever proof
of love. That's it for today. Thank you so much
for listening to the Naughty but Nice with Rob and
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