Sean "Diddy" Combs is facing explosive new accusations that have left authorities comparing him to the notorious Jeffrey Epstein. Eric Roberts has publicly apologized for his shocking 2018 claim that he was responsible for both Julia and Emma Roberts’ careers. Martha Stewart is opening up about the fallout from her friendship with fellow domestic diva Ina Garten – and it’s not as sweet as their famous recipes!
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Love.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,
Rob Shuster. And that's my Doggie Dorby barking in the background.
If you can hear him. It is going to be
a great Friday. We have tons of gossip to get
to him. We're going to do it with our dear
friend Cory Andrew. Hey, Corey, are you there?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I am here. Happy Friday, everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Happy Friday. Let's jump in the show. We've got tons
to talk about. What time is it, my friends? It
is time? Ooh so big story at the top of
the show. Did He is being compared to Jeffrey Epstein
in shocking new allegations, including a quote sex room in
(00:54):
his mansion. So Sean did He? Combs is facing explosive
news accusations that have left authorities comparing him to the
notorious Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Following the raid of.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Didi's mansion in My AMMI, sordid details have emerged, with
federal sources describing sex rooms filled with bondage gear, hidden cameras,
and sex toys. Now, the Department of Homeland Security, who
were involved in the raid of these mansions have hours
(01:33):
and hours of tape, which I think is ultimately going
to seal his deal. It is wild, Corey, what's going
on here. There does feel to be an Epstein element
to this.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know, absolutely, And you know a lot of people
have very sordid sex lives, so that's not something that
we're demonizing here on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But it's about the criminality.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, there's the surveillance of people not being not authorizing,
being filmed while in compromising positions, no pun intended, and
now that's out there. So there are celebrities who are
here are very very afraid of what might be on
this footage that they had no idea was being recorded.
And now there's a Ledger leaked audio of Diddy and
(02:19):
it's all over. But Rob, I want to ask you
because you used to be Diddy's publicist, so I'm curious
to know, is it a time like this where you're like.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'm sure, glad I'm not dealing with this anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's a good question. My friend did. He is the
only person on my resume that I am ashamed to
have worked with. I've had some real stinkers on my resume.
I really have had some notorious characters as well as
some really great people. Alicia Keys, just because Simpson some
really smart people like Jlo who I'm really proud being
part of their careers. Did he's now somebody that's always
(02:53):
going to be a question mark on my resume, And
I think it's fair for people to ask what did
he know? And I didn't know anything I was working with?
Did he back in two thousand and three, two thousand
and four, And it was before these freak coughs, these
so called sex parties events had started. So was he difficult? Yes?
(03:15):
Was he a pain in the bottom yes? Did he
call me ten to twenty times a day? Yes, But
I never saw and I never fought for a minute
that this was going on, And you know what, it
might not have been sure I did. He was still
developing his criminality when I met him. He was still
(03:36):
not in the beginning of his career. But he hadn't
yet anointed himself a king, anointed himself as somebody beyond
the pale of any responsibility. Later in his career, the
last decade or so, he was given the key to
the city, he started to believe.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
His own hype.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Now, he always had a very healthy ego. I've got
to be honest, but he wasn't yet the king that
I think he believes he is today. We hear this
a lot, though, don't we. Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein's
lawyers both tried to convince folks that they were innocent
because it was consensual, and Harvey to this day, Harvey
(04:17):
Weinstein is saying that he didn't abuse anybody. He flirted
with them and they went back to a hotel and
they had sex, and Jeffrey Epstein, to his lawyers, made
that argument. The difference here is that there is video,
and now all of those victims can be contacted. They
were drugged. You know, if you drug somebody, then you
(04:41):
can't give consent. If you apply somebody with liquor and
get them all boost up, you can't give consent. And
we know it wasn't consensual because Cassie Ventura, his ex,
had a civil lawsuit and she alleged a lot of
the stuff now that the FBI is confirming, she alleged that,
and at first he denied it. To remember, he said no, no, no,
(05:03):
paid her then in twenty four hours and then we
saw that video. It's videotape. We live in a really
visual world. Chory and to hear something, to read something
gets very upsetting. It's very dramatic to see it. That's
something different.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, he noticed how he didn't even really respond initially
when the claim came out, but when that video surfaced,
he all of a sudden had an apology Instagram video
that he you know, I'm ashamed of myself and all
these things, and then of course that he took that
down ultimately. But yeah, it's a really sad situation because
he is a far from grace from people who really
looked up to what seemed to be a wonderful success story.
(05:41):
And so it's almost like Bill Cosby. It's in a
strange way too, almost like Giuliani in a way too.
It's like these people who like have these careers that
were stellar and they could have just retired into the sunset.
But all of us and there are later years in life.
It's like, now you're going to ruin your life and
mess up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Great to get intoxicated by their own power. They turn
themselves into emperors into kings, and they think that the
Lord does not.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Lie apply to them.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And I think the way they treat people tells you
so much about them you touched on something earlier, just
a moment ago. Corey that other celebrities are nervous. I
know at least a few whispers in Hollywood that people
have engaged really aggressive sexual behave and there's.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
A lion, a real, real.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Line between taking advantage and of consent and a lot
of these powerful let's be honest men, it's not women.
It's mostly men here. They believe that people want them
to touch them. Harvey Weinstein really believed that these actresses,
(06:52):
these models had a crush on him. I don't think
he really did. I think he knew the truth and
did he knows the truth? Now he's goind of have
a long time to think about it because he's locked away.
His second appeal for bail has been turned down. His
trial is not going to happen until January, so literally
the next three months. Did he's in that jail with
a lot of time to think about all this, which
(07:15):
brings us to our pole question of the day. Did
he as being compared to Jeffrey Epstein in shocking new allegations?
Is this a fair comparison? Seeing what you've seen, reading
what you've read, listening to what you've listened to Do
You Think d D? It's the new Jeffrey Epstein. Hey,
go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty nys robbut
(07:37):
facebook page is Naughty jodsip and be sure to check
back on Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love,
what are you working on? Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, this is an interesting story because Eric Roberts is
now sort of resurging in his whole media presence now
with I Think Dancing with the Stars has kind of
brought him back. But the sixty eight year old actor,
he's known for his turbulent relationship with his sister Julia
Roberts as well, and he is now apologizing for his
shocking twenty eighteen claimed that he was responsible for both
(08:05):
Julia and Emma Roberts' careers. Now, you know, you could
maybe make an argument that he was the first one
of the family, and potentially that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Does open up doors.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But Emma and Julia are clearly, you know, they're very
talented actresses in their own right. But in his new memoir,
he reflects on the damage that his cocaine addiction caused
his relationship with Julia, and it was like that famous
or infamous I should say, vanity Fair interview where he declared,
if it weren't for me, there'd be no Julia Roberts. Now,
(08:38):
of course he's walking back those words, and he even
says it was an asinine thing to have said, and
he expressed that he hopes Julia will accept his apology. So,
you know, I think when you're young, well this was
twenty eighteen, he wasn't that young. But again, that king
maker complex that we just talked about a lot of times,
(08:59):
it's that ego that will get you in trouble, and
I think that's what happened here in this old interview
with the Vanity Fair.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I love that he's owning it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
All we can do is own our mistakes and ask
for forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We're not guaranteed to get it. But I love that
he's at least owning it. And he's apologizing me too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And he's been estranged from Julia, but he did. He
was asked, do you think Julia will accept the apology,
and he said, yes, she's my sister. I totally get
that too. Blood is really important. It is difficult to
take credit for somebody else's success, even if it's true,
even if you've got a hand in it, it diminishes
(09:38):
their drive there exactly there go get attitude. So in
many ways he opened the door of acting to Julia.
Having an older brother in the business, she got to
see it all. But there's no doubt that Julia certainly
blazed her own way to take I do get it.
(10:01):
I do get it. I'm not saying it's right if
I was Julia Roberts's brother. If I was Eric Roberts
and I was an actor, and I wasn't quite as
famous as my sister, I wasn't quite as rich as
my sister. I wasn't living in a mansion in Beverly.
It's like my sister of flying on a private plane
or getting twenty million dollars a movie. Sibling rivalry is
(10:24):
a real thing. Think about it in your own family,
if you have brothers and sisters. I'm the youngest of five,
so I know it quite well. I can't imagine if
my sister, if one of my sisters was Julia Roberts,
that changes the whole dynamic in the family, with your parents,
with your relationship with one another. And so I think
(10:45):
Eric was really jealous of Julia, and I wish he'd
told this side of the story in the book. I
wish he didn't just put at that apology. I wish
he'd explained it and said, you know, I was just upset.
I was galous. I wanted to be the actor. I
was jealous. And her fame a superstard, it's unparalleled. It's her,
Tom Cruise and George Cray. There's nobody in that category.
(11:06):
And so he always felt like the second banana. And
I gotta admit, doing Dancing with the Stars is not
gonna help that.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
No, no, no, But he was.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I mean, you know, I think he talks about addiction.
A lot of his own failings are because he he
because he was a hot commodity. There was a time
when he had every potential to become that next thing,
that Tom Cruise. He was on that path, and somewhere
it got, you know, dismantled. And we'll just say Julia
Roberts began with a little small independent film, Mystic Pizza,
(11:38):
no budget.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
She was one of actors like pretty much living like
in their car.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Everybody starts at the beginning. Call you and me, Julian Roberts,
Taylor Swift, we all start at the beginning. It's interesting
because when I met celebrities early on in their careers
when they're just emerging. I met Alicia Keys very early on, right,
and you should go all the way, not just because
of her talent, but her attitude. I knew that when
(12:02):
fame hit and it was going to it did, she
wouldn't implode. And some people are so self destructed. I
have it in me a little bit. When I became
became a little bed and Owen and I started to
be on TV, I started to drink a little bit
too much. I started to go out a little bit
too late. I started to turn up at the TV
(12:24):
shows a little hung over. And I caught myself and
I said, don't blow this. You're the luckiest guy in
the world. And we've all got talent. We're all good
at what we do. The difference between those who go
on to be Madonna and those that go on to
be Julia Roberts and those that don't is often in
your own head. It's not just talent. You've got to
(12:47):
be willing to let success in. And I'm not sure
Eric was, and his sister, she certainly certainly certainly was. Okay,
this story makes me smile, but so gives me a
little bit of regret to So David Schwimmer, I love
him on Friends turned down Men in Black.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He was up.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He was offered Men in Black, and he said that
decision stopped him from being a movie star. So he's
opening up about his career choices and what haunts him
to this day. He's fifty seven years old, and he
reveals that he turned down a major role in the
nineteen ninety seven hit movie Men in Black. Now I'm
assuming it's the Will Smith, right, He doesn't actually say.
(13:27):
He explained that he was fresh off his first big
film with Gwyneth Paltrow, The Pallbearer, and was riding high
on this wave of expectations from Miramax, which at the
time was the hottest studio. Everything they touched, yeah, seemed
to turn into an Academy Award. Well, it bombed at
the box office, and he found himself in a really
(13:48):
tough decision, and so he was offered Men in Black.
He had already signed on to do another project that
sort of disappeared did not do very well. He was
going to direct a movie, and he said it was
a brutal decision, and reflecting on it, he said, does
he regret it absolutely, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Can you imagine, well, you know what that reminds.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Me of Because we were just talking about Julia Robbers.
I read an interview with Molly Ringwald that blew my
mind that she was the one they approached before Julia
Robbers to be the star of Pretty Woman, and she
was pretty and oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I love hearing these stories. I know it's a little
bit sadistically. I love hearing when celebrities massive parts. Sarah
Jessica quit on Sex on the City the week before
it started, and they changed her mind, so she quit
on that. There's so many stories these stars who offered
these huge, huge roles and they passed on them. Matt
(14:48):
Damon was offered Avatar and ten percent of the promise
God she would be So that's sorazy he turned it down.
The decisions in life, I'm I'm so proud of what
I've said yes too, but I'm also proud of what
I've said no to. But that is a big, big mistake. Okay,
We're going to take a quick break and we will
(15:10):
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Show.
I'm your host, Rubster Hailer's get to the polls. Thank
you Darling. That show, we talked about Jalo's mom delivering
a savage verdict on the possibility of her daughter reuniting
with Diddy. She said, it's done? Is mama right? Was
(15:30):
mama right? Said yes, it is a good thing. Jennifer
did not get back with didd. He don't forget to
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Speaker 1 (15:44):
And now it's toime nice. Yes, this is kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
But although I'm not, I'm a little torn, but we're
gonna share it anyway. So Mark Zuckerberg, he shut down
his daughter's big dream of being just like Taylor, and
he encouraged her instead to be herself.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So that's the nice part.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's the nice part exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Because you know, there's nothing wrong with looking up to
someone who's really a self made career woman who does
a lot of good in the world. But yes, basically
his perspective is very it's very admirable because he revealed
how quickly he shut down his daughter august aspiration to
be like the pop icon Taylor Swift, and he said,
you know what, you can't that's not available to you.
(16:26):
He's just gonna shut that down. He didn't really elaborate
on why he thought that was not a viable career
choice for his daughter, but what he said was, after
some thought, she came back to him and she changed
her tune and she said, you know, yeah, I want
people to aspire to be like me instead, which means
be yourself, be a good person, and then you'll have followers.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So yeah, yeah, it's a tricky one, isn't it, Because
I do love the message of being yourself, be the
best to you, don't be a second rate to anybody else.
But being inspired by somebody as magnificent as Taylor Swift,
he's got to be a good thing. I think Ivean
was the diet. I would have said that, great goals,
but make sure we were your Versi Swift And if
you want to be your singer, then let's get your
(17:05):
music lessons. Let's start practicing. People wake up and they
want to be models or singers. Do the work, and
they've got the resources. Let's face it, they can get
a good piano teacher.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He can pay for them.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He can get the New York Philhermark to teach her
like he could pay for the serious orchestra. So I
like it. But there's a little bit of a little
bit of a sting in there too. But be yourself.
And now I noticed the day I love Martha. Martha
just says it. So Martha's revealing that Aina Garten was
extremely unfriendly to her when she went to prison. She said,
(17:37):
she stopped talking to me. So Martha's opening up about
a falling out in her friendship with fellow domestic diva.
And it's not quite as sweet as their recipe is.
So in the shocking revelation, Math claims that when she
went to prison in two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Four, Ana completely cut her off.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
She said, quote when I went to prison, she stopped
talking to me.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
She said.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
She was extremely distressing and extremely unfriendly. Don't be a
fair weather right now.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We talk about that. You don't know when you don't
know who.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Your friends are doing the good time. Do you know
who your friends are during the bad time? But I
love that. Martha's not letting it go. No, she doesn't
care at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Martha says, it isn't no you know what.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But it also reminds me. I'm not sure why I
thought about this, but I thought about Anderson Cooper and
Kathy Griffin. He dumped her and instead of being you
could have been against what she did and also still said,
I'm going to reprimand my friend for hate.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
The sin not the same. I remember that. Okay, let's
end with her moment. It took me a long time
not to judge myself through other people's eyes. Don't let
other people tell you who you are. Don't judge yourself
through other people's eyes. Judge yourself through your own eyes,
(18:57):
and be to be a little bit kind while you
are doing it. Hey, that is it for this week.
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Now, if you've got to be naught, you've got to
be starting but nice with You're welcome.
Love.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host,
Rob Shuster. And that's my Doggie Dorby barking in the background.
If you can hear him. It is going to be
a great Friday. We have tons of gossip to get
to him. We're going to do it with our dear
friend Cory Andrew. Hey, Corey, are you there?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I am here. Happy Friday, everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Happy Friday. Let's jump in the show. We've got tons
to talk about. What time is it, my friends? It
is time? Ooh so big story at the top of
the show. Did He is being compared to Jeffrey Epstein
in shocking new allegations, including a quote sex room in
(00:54):
his mansion. So Sean did He? Combs is facing explosive
news accusations that have left authorities comparing him to the
notorious Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Following the raid of.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Didi's mansion in My AMMI, sordid details have emerged, with
federal sources describing sex rooms filled with bondage gear, hidden cameras,
and sex toys. Now, the Department of Homeland Security, who
were involved in the raid of these mansions have hours
(01:33):
and hours of tape, which I think is ultimately going
to seal his deal. It is wild, Corey, what's going
on here. There does feel to be an Epstein element
to this.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know, absolutely, And you know a lot of people
have very sordid sex lives, so that's not something that
we're demonizing here on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But it's about the criminality.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know, there's the surveillance of people not being not authorizing,
being filmed while in compromising positions, no pun intended, and
now that's out there. So there are celebrities who are
here are very very afraid of what might be on
this footage that they had no idea was being recorded.
And now there's a Ledger leaked audio of Diddy and
(02:19):
it's all over. But Rob, I want to ask you
because you used to be Diddy's publicist, so I'm curious
to know, is it a time like this where you're like.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I'm sure, glad I'm not dealing with this anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's a good question. My friend did. He is the
only person on my resume that I am ashamed to
have worked with. I've had some real stinkers on my resume.
I really have had some notorious characters as well as
some really great people. Alicia Keys, just because Simpson some
really smart people like Jlo who I'm really proud being
part of their careers. Did he's now somebody that's always
(02:53):
going to be a question mark on my resume, And
I think it's fair for people to ask what did
he know? And I didn't know anything I was working with?
Did he back in two thousand and three, two thousand
and four, And it was before these freak coughs, these
so called sex parties events had started. So was he difficult? Yes?
(03:15):
Was he a pain in the bottom yes? Did he
call me ten to twenty times a day? Yes, But
I never saw and I never fought for a minute
that this was going on, And you know what, it
might not have been sure I did. He was still
developing his criminality when I met him. He was still
(03:36):
not in the beginning of his career. But he hadn't
yet anointed himself a king, anointed himself as somebody beyond
the pale of any responsibility. Later in his career, the
last decade or so, he was given the key to
the city, he started to believe.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
His own hype.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Now, he always had a very healthy ego. I've got
to be honest, but he wasn't yet the king that
I think he believes he is today. We hear this
a lot, though, don't we. Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein's
lawyers both tried to convince folks that they were innocent
because it was consensual, and Harvey to this day, Harvey
(04:17):
Weinstein is saying that he didn't abuse anybody. He flirted
with them and they went back to a hotel and
they had sex, and Jeffrey Epstein, to his lawyers, made
that argument. The difference here is that there is video,
and now all of those victims can be contacted. They
were drugged. You know, if you drug somebody, then you
(04:41):
can't give consent. If you apply somebody with liquor and
get them all boost up, you can't give consent. And
we know it wasn't consensual because Cassie Ventura, his ex,
had a civil lawsuit and she alleged a lot of
the stuff now that the FBI is confirming, she alleged that,
and at first he denied it. To remember, he said no, no, no,
(05:03):
paid her then in twenty four hours and then we
saw that video. It's videotape. We live in a really
visual world. Chory and to hear something, to read something
gets very upsetting. It's very dramatic to see it. That's
something different.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, he noticed how he didn't even really respond initially
when the claim came out, but when that video surfaced,
he all of a sudden had an apology Instagram video
that he you know, I'm ashamed of myself and all
these things, and then of course that he took that
down ultimately. But yeah, it's a really sad situation because
he is a far from grace from people who really
looked up to what seemed to be a wonderful success story.
(05:41):
And so it's almost like Bill Cosby. It's in a
strange way too, almost like Giuliani in a way too.
It's like these people who like have these careers that
were stellar and they could have just retired into the sunset.
But all of us and there are later years in life.
It's like, now you're going to ruin your life and
mess up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Great to get intoxicated by their own power. They turn
themselves into emperors into kings, and they think that the
Lord does not.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Lie apply to them.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And I think the way they treat people tells you
so much about them you touched on something earlier, just
a moment ago. Corey that other celebrities are nervous. I
know at least a few whispers in Hollywood that people
have engaged really aggressive sexual behave and there's.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
A lion, a real, real.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Line between taking advantage and of consent and a lot
of these powerful let's be honest men, it's not women.
It's mostly men here. They believe that people want them
to touch them. Harvey Weinstein really believed that these actresses,
(06:52):
these models had a crush on him. I don't think
he really did. I think he knew the truth and
did he knows the truth? Now he's goind of have
a long time to think about it because he's locked away.
His second appeal for bail has been turned down. His
trial is not going to happen until January, so literally
the next three months. Did he's in that jail with
a lot of time to think about all this, which
(07:15):
brings us to our pole question of the day. Did
he as being compared to Jeffrey Epstein in shocking new allegations?
Is this a fair comparison? Seeing what you've seen, reading
what you've read, listening to what you've listened to Do
You Think d D? It's the new Jeffrey Epstein. Hey,
go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty nys robbut
(07:37):
facebook page is Naughty jodsip and be sure to check
back on Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love,
what are you working on? Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, this is an interesting story because Eric Roberts is
now sort of resurging in his whole media presence now
with I Think Dancing with the Stars has kind of
brought him back. But the sixty eight year old actor,
he's known for his turbulent relationship with his sister Julia
Roberts as well, and he is now apologizing for his
shocking twenty eighteen claimed that he was responsible for both
(08:05):
Julia and Emma Roberts' careers. Now, you know, you could
maybe make an argument that he was the first one
of the family, and potentially that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Does open up doors.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
But Emma and Julia are clearly, you know, they're very
talented actresses in their own right. But in his new memoir,
he reflects on the damage that his cocaine addiction caused
his relationship with Julia, and it was like that famous
or infamous I should say, vanity Fair interview where he declared,
if it weren't for me, there'd be no Julia Roberts. Now,
(08:38):
of course he's walking back those words, and he even
says it was an asinine thing to have said, and
he expressed that he hopes Julia will accept his apology. So,
you know, I think when you're young, well this was
twenty eighteen, he wasn't that young. But again, that king
maker complex that we just talked about a lot of times,
(08:59):
it's that ego that will get you in trouble, and
I think that's what happened here in this old interview
with the Vanity Fair.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I love that he's owning it.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
All we can do is own our mistakes and ask
for forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
We're not guaranteed to get it. But I love that
he's at least owning it. And he's apologizing me too.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And he's been estranged from Julia, but he did. He
was asked, do you think Julia will accept the apology,
and he said, yes, she's my sister. I totally get
that too. Blood is really important. It is difficult to
take credit for somebody else's success, even if it's true,
even if you've got a hand in it, it diminishes
(09:38):
their drive there exactly there go get attitude. So in
many ways he opened the door of acting to Julia.
Having an older brother in the business, she got to
see it all. But there's no doubt that Julia certainly
blazed her own way to take I do get it.
(10:01):
I do get it. I'm not saying it's right if
I was Julia Roberts's brother. If I was Eric Roberts
and I was an actor, and I wasn't quite as
famous as my sister, I wasn't quite as rich as
my sister. I wasn't living in a mansion in Beverly.
It's like my sister of flying on a private plane
or getting twenty million dollars a movie. Sibling rivalry is
(10:24):
a real thing. Think about it in your own family,
if you have brothers and sisters. I'm the youngest of five,
so I know it quite well. I can't imagine if
my sister, if one of my sisters was Julia Roberts,
that changes the whole dynamic in the family, with your parents,
with your relationship with one another. And so I think
(10:45):
Eric was really jealous of Julia, and I wish he'd
told this side of the story in the book. I
wish he didn't just put at that apology. I wish
he'd explained it and said, you know, I was just upset.
I was galous. I wanted to be the actor. I
was jealous. And her fame a superstard, it's unparalleled. It's her,
Tom Cruise and George Cray. There's nobody in that category.
(11:06):
And so he always felt like the second banana. And
I gotta admit, doing Dancing with the Stars is not
gonna help that.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
No, no, no, But he was.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I mean, you know, I think he talks about addiction.
A lot of his own failings are because he he
because he was a hot commodity. There was a time
when he had every potential to become that next thing,
that Tom Cruise. He was on that path, and somewhere
it got, you know, dismantled. And we'll just say Julia
Roberts began with a little small independent film, Mystic Pizza,
(11:38):
no budget.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
She was one of actors like pretty much living like
in their car.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Everybody starts at the beginning. Call you and me, Julian Roberts,
Taylor Swift, we all start at the beginning. It's interesting
because when I met celebrities early on in their careers
when they're just emerging. I met Alicia Keys very early on, right,
and you should go all the way, not just because
of her talent, but her attitude. I knew that when
(12:02):
fame hit and it was going to it did, she
wouldn't implode. And some people are so self destructed. I
have it in me a little bit. When I became
became a little bed and Owen and I started to
be on TV, I started to drink a little bit
too much. I started to go out a little bit
too late. I started to turn up at the TV
(12:24):
shows a little hung over. And I caught myself and
I said, don't blow this. You're the luckiest guy in
the world. And we've all got talent. We're all good
at what we do. The difference between those who go
on to be Madonna and those that go on to
be Julia Roberts and those that don't is often in
your own head. It's not just talent. You've got to
(12:47):
be willing to let success in. And I'm not sure
Eric was, and his sister, she certainly certainly certainly was. Okay,
this story makes me smile, but so gives me a
little bit of regret to So David Schwimmer, I love
him on Friends turned down Men in Black.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
He was up.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He was offered Men in Black, and he said that
decision stopped him from being a movie star. So he's
opening up about his career choices and what haunts him
to this day. He's fifty seven years old, and he
reveals that he turned down a major role in the
nineteen ninety seven hit movie Men in Black. Now I'm
assuming it's the Will Smith, right, He doesn't actually say.
(13:27):
He explained that he was fresh off his first big
film with Gwyneth Paltrow, The Pallbearer, and was riding high
on this wave of expectations from Miramax, which at the
time was the hottest studio. Everything they touched, yeah, seemed
to turn into an Academy Award. Well, it bombed at
the box office, and he found himself in a really
(13:48):
tough decision, and so he was offered Men in Black.
He had already signed on to do another project that
sort of disappeared did not do very well. He was
going to direct a movie, and he said it was
a brutal decision, and reflecting on it, he said, does
he regret it absolutely, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Can you imagine, well, you know what that reminds.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Me of Because we were just talking about Julia Robbers.
I read an interview with Molly Ringwald that blew my
mind that she was the one they approached before Julia
Robbers to be the star of Pretty Woman, and she
was pretty and oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I love hearing these stories. I know it's a little
bit sadistically. I love hearing when celebrities massive parts. Sarah
Jessica quit on Sex on the City the week before
it started, and they changed her mind, so she quit
on that. There's so many stories these stars who offered
these huge, huge roles and they passed on them. Matt
(14:48):
Damon was offered Avatar and ten percent of the promise
God she would be So that's sorazy he turned it down.
The decisions in life, I'm I'm so proud of what
I've said yes too, but I'm also proud of what
I've said no to. But that is a big, big mistake. Okay,
We're going to take a quick break and we will
(15:10):
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Show.
I'm your host, Rubster Hailer's get to the polls. Thank
you Darling. That show, we talked about Jalo's mom delivering
a savage verdict on the possibility of her daughter reuniting
with Diddy. She said, it's done? Is mama right? Was
(15:30):
mama right? Said yes, it is a good thing. Jennifer
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Speaker 1 (15:44):
And now it's toime nice. Yes, this is kind of nice.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
But although I'm not, I'm a little torn, but we're
gonna share it anyway. So Mark Zuckerberg, he shut down
his daughter's big dream of being just like Taylor, and
he encouraged her instead to be herself.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So that's the nice part.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's the nice part exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Because you know, there's nothing wrong with looking up to
someone who's really a self made career woman who does
a lot of good in the world. But yes, basically
his perspective is very it's very admirable because he revealed
how quickly he shut down his daughter august aspiration to
be like the pop icon Taylor Swift, and he said,
you know what, you can't that's not available to you.
(16:26):
He's just gonna shut that down. He didn't really elaborate
on why he thought that was not a viable career
choice for his daughter, but what he said was, after
some thought, she came back to him and she changed
her tune and she said, you know, yeah, I want
people to aspire to be like me instead, which means
be yourself, be a good person, and then you'll have followers.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So yeah, yeah, it's a tricky one, isn't it, Because
I do love the message of being yourself, be the
best to you, don't be a second rate to anybody else.
But being inspired by somebody as magnificent as Taylor Swift,
he's got to be a good thing. I think Ivean
was the diet. I would have said that, great goals,
but make sure we were your Versi Swift And if
you want to be your singer, then let's get your
(17:05):
music lessons. Let's start practicing. People wake up and they
want to be models or singers. Do the work, and
they've got the resources. Let's face it, they can get
a good piano teacher.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He can pay for them.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He can get the New York Philhermark to teach her
like he could pay for the serious orchestra. So I
like it. But there's a little bit of a little
bit of a sting in there too. But be yourself.
And now I noticed the day I love Martha. Martha
just says it. So Martha's revealing that Aina Garten was
extremely unfriendly to her when she went to prison. She said,
(17:37):
she stopped talking to me. So Martha's opening up about
a falling out in her friendship with fellow domestic diva.
And it's not quite as sweet as their recipe is.
So in the shocking revelation, Math claims that when she
went to prison in two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Four, Ana completely cut her off.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
She said, quote when I went to prison, she stopped
talking to me.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
She said.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
She was extremely distressing and extremely unfriendly. Don't be a
fair weather right now.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We talk about that. You don't know when you don't
know who.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Your friends are doing the good time. Do you know
who your friends are during the bad time? But I
love that. Martha's not letting it go. No, she doesn't
care at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Martha says, it isn't no you know what.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But it also reminds me. I'm not sure why I
thought about this, but I thought about Anderson Cooper and
Kathy Griffin. He dumped her and instead of being you
could have been against what she did and also still said,
I'm going to reprimand my friend for hate.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
The sin not the same. I remember that. Okay, let's
end with her moment. It took me a long time
not to judge myself through other people's eyes. Don't let
other people tell you who you are. Don't judge yourself
through other people's eyes. Judge yourself through your own eyes,
(18:57):
and be to be a little bit kind while you
are doing it. Hey, that is it for this week.
Thank you so much for listening to The Naughty but
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