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May 14, 2025 20 mins

Pregnant, poised, and painfully honest, Cassie Ventura took the stand and shattered the silence surrounding her decade-long relationship with Sean “Diddy” Combs. Rachael Ray has fans are begging the 56-year-old star to address growing concerns about her well-being. Real Housewives of New York City star caused an all-out scene after she was handed a hefty tab and learned her dinner wasn’t on the house.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's time, Lo, Lo, welcome to the Norde Venais Sham,
your house for arms shows. And it is it is Wednesday.
I had to think for a minute one day of
the week. Gosh, these days fly by so quickly. It's Wednesday,
which means our dear friend Donnie Mechamy is joining us. Hey, Donnie,
are you there?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
That level levelone?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Another five letter D word, but not deaddy. It's a
good D word that's happening here. My goodness.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
We have so much tickets, so much to get to
before we jump in. Donnie just gave me some advice
about my substack. So I'm working now with substack, and
I'm such a good reporter and I enjoy it so much.
I feel like I've been doing too much work, Donnie,
too much work. And so every time I file a story,
a new story of breaking story on substack, I know
people that follow me that subscribe, thank you very much.

(00:58):
They get an email. Well, it is possible, allegedly to
have too much good, too much rob shooter, and so
I'm going to figure this one out. I think less
is more. I think Donnie, your idea of grouping two
or three items into one column is a good idea
and you can just sort of at the end of
the day or at the beginning of the day, see
the things that you need to look for great advice.
If you've got any advice, you've got my email Naughties

(01:20):
the Naughty Gossip at aol dot com. Send me any notes.
It's really really helpful. I think the thing is part
of the reason I'm successful is I take advice, Donnie,
I don't think I know best, and actually listen. If
you listen to people, the individual response will drive you crazy,
but the collective response if more than one person is
telling you this, if six or seven friends are saying

(01:40):
like you've blowing up mutton box, you gotta start to listen.
So thank you, Donnie. How are you on advice? Are
you stubborn about it? Oh? Can you listen?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I think you know, at the beginning of anything people,
it's always a little stubborn. But I think over time,
like a lot of times you But I think this
is because we're friends.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
We can give each other on it's advice.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
And you know what I think, and we don't critique
each other on everything.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So when you say something.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's like, oh, well, this is actually a thing You've
given me advice several times and I've listened to it and.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
It worked, Thank you very much. And that's why you're successful. Yes,
it's because you're very talented. Okay, let's jump into Astroy.
What time is it, my friends? It is tame Cassie
took the stand in the Diddy case and blew the
roof off the trial, so lots of details about this.
Once again, we are a family friendly show, so we're

(02:28):
going to try and keep it as family friendly as possible.
But it was really I think poised, painful. Honest. She's
eight months pregnant and the prosecution's star witness did not disappoint.
So a couple of the takeaways that I think everybody
is talking about is the freak Ofughs began when she
was just twenty two years old. So she claims that

(02:51):
Diddy first introduced her to these twisted sexual demands when
they were in their first years of dating. She was
just twenty two years old. He said, quote, Sean proposed
this idea voyeurism where he would watch me have sex
with another man, and pretty quickly over time, I knew
it was something that I didn't really want to do,

(03:11):
but I was in love and I wanted to make
him happy. She also talks about how he once threatened
to bash her head in, saying that he would knock
her out, he would drag her, he would kick her,
he would stamp on her, he would hold her head
down and really really disturbing stuff. Now the defense, the
defense said she only looked high once. So we've had

(03:35):
lots of videos. They've not been played yet, but all
these sexual encounters, these so called freakops, were recorded well.
Now Didy's legal team is trying to provoke holes in
the credibility of a male escort. His name is Danielle Phillips,
who previously testified that he was paid six thousand dollars
a session to sleep with Cassie while did he watched.

(03:56):
Now under cross examination, this is where Diddy's lawyers come
in ask you much tougher questions. He admitted that Cassie
only appeared to be intoxicated just once. Once is enough.
I think here, we've got to say Cassie is so brave.
We know it takes people at least nine times on

(04:16):
average before they can leave, and so she was with
him about ten years. People some people, foolish people, are asking,
but why didn't you leave right away? It doesn't work
like that. If you know anybody that's been abused, if
you've been abused yourself, you feel trapped. And not only
was she dependent on him as his partner, she was
his girlfriend, she also was his business partner. She wanted

(04:38):
to be a recording artist, she had written hundreds of songs.
She met him because he could help her career. She
wanted a professional relationship with him. In fact, she talks
about when he tried to kiss her first, she ran away.
She didn't want that. So she was tied into Diddy,
not just professionally, but also to personally. Lots of control
issues here. She was very very young. I think this

(04:59):
is the turning. I think this testimony is devastated. What
do you think, don it?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I mean also, that's not she was very young when
she got with Ditty. She was in her I want
to say she was like either nineteen or she was
in her very very early twenties when they met. She
wanted to be recording on and it's p Ditty he
was puff Daddy back then. It's just like you're meeting
one of the most influential people in that world. And obviously,

(05:26):
and once something happens, once this person has a mind
control over you, and also they can threaten.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
To tell other people.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
There's so many reasons why, So don't question why she stayed.
That's what I want to say there about Cassie's testimony.
I definitely think that the jury is affected. I think
in your head right now, it would if the trial
ended today, it would not look good for Ditty. I
think the only help that Diddy has is the trial

(05:58):
is ongoing. I worry was Cassie testimony too soon? Hmmm,
because now you have it out there, it's a bombshell
right after the game here it is. I'm feeling and
feeling feeling. Now you're going to have a bunch of convoluted,
muddy testimony from a bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Who were there, who heard, who.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Saw, who might have And I'm worried that what Cassie
said now is going to overtime slowly erode from the
giant I see.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I see. Yeah, it's a trials like a musical, a play.
It's got several different actions. You want to open with
a bang, but you want to close with her a
bang too, And so she's definitely the star witness, although
that we don't know that. We don't know who else
they've got coming. But I can't imagine anybody is going
to be quite as dramatic, quite as touching as she was.

(06:49):
It was amazing. Now cross examination is going to happen
so they can ask these really tough questions. I would
warn did his lawyers there the optics of really going
after an eight month pregnant woman on a stand, and
I think that's a really good look. I think it's
no coincidence that Cassie wore a very tight dress, and
I thought that was to show off the baby bump.

(07:11):
What you might not know too, is before the trial
actually started, did his team wanted Cassie sitting in the
witness box when the jury was brought in, so they.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Didn't see her, really see her belt.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
They didn't want her walking in and climbing up those
few steps. She's eight and a half months pregnant. They
didn't want to see that, and they weren't. She was
seated when the jury walked in. These little optics, these
little details. As somebody who used to work for did A,
I can tell you there's nobody that does this better
than him. He knows every little detail. It's no coincident

(07:46):
he's wearing the same clothes that he wore yesterday, that
he's wearing a sweater. I've never seen him in a
sweater like that. I've never seen him in a Britain
down white yeah, white shirt, I've never seen in my glasses.
He doesn't need to read that much, I don't think
at the trial, but he's got his glasses on. I
think his hair is deliberately greater. So he's definitely definitely

(08:08):
being diddy here. And he's really really good. I don't
think he's a great musician, but he's a great marketing,
a great pr guy, and that's what he's doing in
the stand. I also thought too it was some people
say touching someone not buying it. He had a Bible.
He had his Bible with him, Donnie. He was constantly
looking at different passages in the Bible. His family outside,

(08:30):
had a prayer turtle outside the court and prayed all
of this. It's easy to roll your eyes off, but
this stuff works. They're not doing it because they're bored.
They're not doing it because they've got ten minutes to kill.
It works, and he is playing it really well. And
so it's too early to say what's going to happen

(08:51):
Casses test and only devastated. You've got the image now
of her being coerced, some would say, forced into sexual
acts with male prostitutes doing things to her that we
are visualized, and it's in our mind. We're not gonna
go into any more detail on this show, but it's
something I think the jury is going to be thinking
about thinking about for a long time. But Donnie, you

(09:14):
do have a good point. Maybe she was a little
bit early in this trial. It's going to go on
for another couple of weeks, which brings us to our
whole question of the day. Cassie took the stand in
Diddy's trial and she blew the roof off it. Do
you think this is a turning point? Yesterday we talked
about did he being quite confident? The first day went

(09:34):
pretty well for path The second day not so much.
Once people start telling their stories, once people start saying
what happens to them, then you realize they didn't like it.
She didn't want to have somebody urinate on her, She
did not want to be in this abusive relationship. She
just didn't feel like she could get out, So what

(09:55):
do you think? Do you think today was a turning point? Hey?
Go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nights rob
Our facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check back to Marot to hear your results. Hey Donnie,
what are you working on?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh, Rachel Ray?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
She is sparking new concern So Rachel, you know, ever
since she left her talk show, she's been going on
social media and she's been doing these sort of cooking
videos and stuff on social media.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And it was last year she had.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
One to where she was really kind of slurring her
speech talking about a dinner party. I forget what's very
famous celebrity. She was talking about the dinner parties house
that she's very slurring her speech. Well, she had another
one and it's just it's it is concerning to watch,
and I think that that is the hard part here,

(10:49):
you know, And then everybody's commenting about she looks sick,
and they're saying what happened to Rachel? Because she really is.
She's slurring her words when she's talking. And I think
though that people are also you know, defending Rachel and saying,
you know, she is sick. She has something going on.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
There's something there.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I I Rachel Hellolo Bello, it's really I think if
you want to continue doing these videos, which.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Obviously you do because you need you know, you're Rachel Ray.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Years of teaching people how to cook, how to do
these things, you might want to address something. If there
is a health something happening going on, just say it
or let people.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
You don't have to get.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Into details, I think, but you can definitely Otherwise people's
imaginations are going to run wild, and that's where the problem.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
The problem isn't it? And her brand has been about authenticity.
I've been on a show many times. I know Rachel.
I did this story a couple of weeks ago. So
before this video came out, I heard rumors she wasn't
returning friends call. She's left America, she's in Italy. So
she's moved to Italy. So friends don't see her very
much anymore, but they can call her an email her,
and I'm told that she's not really being very responsive.
So friends were really really worried, and then they put

(12:04):
this video. I'm told that Rachel, you know, we know
she's a media professional. She had a show on for
over a decade. This video is as good as it gets.
This isn't the worst video that she didn't just take one.
She taped several and decided, oh, this one is good enough.
This one is the is the way I want to
represent myself now. I hope we're not leaning into weight
gain or the way people look physically different. We don't

(12:27):
do that on this show. We're all allowed to age.
But I think that's not the reason people are really suspicious.
It's the slurring. It's the something not quite right. Rachel,
if you're listening alwa loo loo, I'd suggest not making
videos for a little bit if you don't want people
talking about it. I wouldn't post any for a while.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I will the thing is like, okay, we're we cut
the crap here on the go right through it. A
lot of people are saying it's like alcohol or.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Drugs or whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Obviously that's why people would be slowing their words, And
there's nothing wrong. You know how many times I have
an interview, but before I had, you know, I tossed
back a fireball shop because it sues, it sush comes
my nerves or it just does the nerves. There's nothing
wrong with that. So I think that there's also no
judgment on that, but there is just a and then

(13:16):
I think that's because people become concerned when you were
selling the words to the point to where you can't
really understand what you're saying. So acting like there's nothing
going on.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
And it's coming from a place. I love, people love Rachel.
This is not coming from no negative, from the mean place.
Kim Kardashian was in Paris. She's back in the US already,
so she went in to testify about her Paris or robbery.
Sources tell me it was good, wrenching talking about the
twenty sixteen robbery that changed their life forever. She was
wearing one point five million dollars of diamonds, a bold

(13:48):
statement considering they stole her jewels, But that was on purpose.
She wanted to turn up in that court and look
fabulous and showed these animals that they hadn't changed her life.
Although internally, I'm told she was really nervous about this.
When she took the stand, she talked about being naked,
her legs were pulled, everything was exposed, and she thought
she was going to be raped. And then the most

(14:09):
chilling moment came when Kim described the fear that her
sister Courtney would find her dead. She said, I thought
Courtney would come back to the room and find me
shot dead in the bed and would have to live
with that memory forever. Really vivid, vivid testimony. Kim did
the right thing here turning up. I'm sure it was very,
very difficult. I believe her security was out of control.

(14:32):
She landed in Paris, she went to court, and now
she is back. Kim. This took real, real balls, and
so congratulations on doing that. Let's hope, let's hope that
these people get what they deserve. Okay, quickly before we
get a break, Sonya Organ is back in the headlines
from the Real Housewives and what is she up to?
Donnie col She.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Was a New York City had spot Pucci in NoHo
and a thousand dollars her bill and you know, the
bill comes and there she's like, it's not comped.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's weirdy, it's not comp.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
You refuse it to pay.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, she has been This is the thing, you know,
you know there's a very famous restaurant that you go
to own by somebody who Scato's. We will talk about it,
and we have seen a few people there.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, and they assume the bill is but it's not.
It's sweeties.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's nothing's free in life unless the manager come over
beforehand and before.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh baby, I got it.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's right. If they don't say it beforehand, assume you're paying, like, yeah,
it's soon over pay and you should pay. Everybody has
to pay for this. You're not that special these housewives.
It's gonna get worse too, because it's over.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's they're done for that.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh, it's so entitled. A thousand dollars. That's just rude.
If it was comped, I'd be like, let's go light,
like when I go for a free We don't all
need a dessert and an appetizer. We don't. We don't
need seven glasses of wine down because we're just taking advantage.
They don't care. Well, I love Sonya was told though,
pay and so she did, and now she's been barred. Good, okay,

(16:08):
we're gonna take the money. She's got the money. She's
got the money, but she's not allowed back. They don't
want to know even if she's paying. Good. Okay, we're
going to take a quick break and we will be
right back. Welcome back to the not even nic Sham
your hostband shoot their different Donny Michen, Hey, Donny, let's
get to the polls. Yes, say we talking about it?
Did his trial exposing it? Really? Did? It exploded? In
fact with her bombshell test Moony on day one, from

(16:31):
what we know so far, do you think innocent or guilty?
On just one day? It's difficult to say what do
you think? Ooh, guilty is sixty percent? Guilty is sixty percent.
This is going to be a rollercoaster, Donnie. Some days
we're going to think, ah, it was perverted, it was devious,
it was deviant behavior, but it's not a legal behavior.

(16:52):
Some days we're going to hear people like Cassie testify
and say there's no way that can be legal. And
so I think we're going to go back and forth,
but don't forget Devert On to day's pole. Go at
Twitter page at Naughty Noise raw back Facebook page is
Nuty Gossip and be sure to check back. Tama Rauta,
hear your results are now. Oh he's done for our
noisiest of the day.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh Travis Kelz.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
He dropped twenty five pounds and unveiled a lean new
looks good.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh, he looks good.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
So he was you know, Amazon's MGM studios upfront in
New York, and he definitely looked noticeably slimber, and he
had his.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Hair slicked back.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
But they say it's about he's down about twenty five pounds,
you know. The source told mister shoot a school hello.
And but the thing is, though, is it's interesting because
we all know he is coming back for one more season,
at least one more season, So I am surprised. But
also this is what happens. They forget that when the
season's over, these people, they're they're not bulking as much,

(17:59):
they're not in the gym as much. He'll get back
into fighting cheap.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he looks great. He looks great. So
just tell me that he's gone Hollywood, like this is
what he wants next. It's his last season in football.
He wants to be lean machine for Hollywood and he
probably is gonna crack it. And nice is the day.
And now I noticed day naughty naughteen noughty Tom CRY's
dodge is a really important question while doing miss an

(18:24):
impossible press. So insiders tell me, including people friends from
page six, that they've been banned from the Red carpet. Well,
what happened is Tom was doing a press event in
South Korea and somebody asked him about the new tariffs
that have been threatened our movies that are not made
in America. Now, Mission Impossible was not made in America.

(18:44):
It's made all around the world. They wanted those locations. Well,
Tom got quite angry with the question, did not want
to answer it. I get it. I know we're not
a political podcast. I know we stay away from from politics,
but this is going to be really important. There's going
to come a point where everybody, including Tom Cruise, are
going to have to take a side and naughtiest of

(19:06):
the day, let's end with a moment of Consistency is
the key no matter what you are doing. So if
you get no results, keep going. If you get bad results,
keep going. If you get great results, keep going to uh.
This is the truth that nobody glamour rises. Consistency wins
every single time. It's not talent, it's not look, it's

(19:28):
not hype. It's consistency. It's about showing up when it's boring,
when it's hard, and when it's thankless. Every win is
built on reps that you didn't want to do. Every
breakthrough comes after after one hundred breakdowns. Consistency is the
quiet hustle that makes for loud results. The ones who

(19:53):
keep going are the ones who get there. That's it,
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