Anne Burrell, 55, best known for hosting Worst Cooks in America, was found dead in the shower of her Brooklyn apartment. Authorities ruled it a suicide. Meanwhile, Ozzy Osbourne’s inner circle is seething after wrestling legend Hulk Hogan’s sudden death at 71 hijacked headlines meant to honor the late Black Sabbath frontman. And insiders worry Kelly Clarkson is on the brink. “The pressure, the schedule, the expectations — it’s all piling up.”
Instinct magazine’s Corey Andrew joins Rob with all the dish! Don't forget to vote in today's poll on Twitter at @naughtynicerob or in our Facebook group.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sure it's time.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, welcome to the naught even nice, am your host,
wrong shooter and it is Friday, which means our dear
friend Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are you there?
I am here with bells on. You sounded delicious, darm
and I can finally speak, So thank you Naughties for
sticking with me for the last three or four days.
I was quite sicky. I had this horrible summer cold
(00:37):
and then finally shaken off. But I was such a
good boy. There was drinks last night with a friend
of mine that I desperately wanted to go. I had
to post that I just Corey, I'd been sick for
four days. I've been moping around the house. I'm a
horrible sixth person. I've been making Bruce run up and
down the hallway to get me cup to tea. Had
I had a shower and put on my nice clothes
(00:57):
and trotted out this house. My god, he would have
been like, I just looked after you for four days,
Where are you going? What are you doing? So thankfully
I stayed home. I think that's the nicest thing about
getting older is I'm not quite as desperate. I don't
feel like I'm missing out on stuff anymore. I used
to when I was little, I'd go to everything. I
was almost like, is it called fear of missing out? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But you know, Rob, it's so funny. I'm the same way.
Like you know, when we first got to New York
and tried this whole thing again, I was so desperate
to go they like they say, I'd go to the
opening of an envelope if I could have. And now
I get all the invites and I'm like, maybe no,
and I'm just homing my flip.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Flops and like watching TV with haggin Das. You know,
I'd rather be here behind my phone talking with all
the naughties. But I am feeling better. So thank you,
thank you. Let's jump into our show. What time is it?
My friends? It is time. Big story at the top
of the Shaw So Ambarell, the Worst Cooks in America host,
fifty five years old, was found dead in the shower
(02:01):
in her Brooklyn apartment, surrounded by pills. Now authorities it's
been about three four maybe five weeks. Authorities have ruled
that it was a suicide by overdose Benna drill and booze.
But in a circle is pushing back. So I've known
Anne for at least a decade. A friend of mine
even dated her husband's stewart before they were together, although
(02:24):
the exchange got a little sloppy at the end. I'm
gonna say no more. So I've known Nan, I've always
really liked her. She told me once that she just
didn't feel pretty enough to be on TV because she
was great, she was fun, she was bubbling, but she
didn't look like a stereotypical model, and she she really
felt that, and so I know she struggled. However, friends
(02:44):
are now saying that the night before she died, she
was out at an improv show. She was smiling, she
was hugging, she was laughing. None of this makes any sense, now,
I should point out here, just because on the outside
you look really happy, it doesn't mean anything. You know,
naught is. We can all put on a smile, we
can all have a laugh, but we can feel terrible.
I don't want us all to think that, oh my goodness,
(03:07):
oh my goodness, because she was laughing, because she was smiling,
she couldn't possibly, couldn't possibly have committed suicide. That isn't
how it works. It's all heartbreaking, but there are still
a lot of questions. Was this an accidental overdose? I
don't think a note was found. Often people that commit
(03:28):
suicide they know it's suicide because of the note. Otherwise
it could have been an accidental overdose. I don't think.
There are still some questions, So I understand why her
friends are concerned. But I don't think here we can
say just because she looked happy, she was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, also too, people have to realize people famous people
such as Robin Williams, for example, is a great example
of someone who on the outside we all thought he
was like America's or the world's jesture. He made us
all and feel good, and he was terribly wounded inside,
which resulted in his own suicide, you know, taking his
own life. But I will also say benadrill is very
(04:10):
very drowsy inducing. You drowse inducing. You can accidentally really
overdose on benadrilla. I've been there because I have allergies.
We were just talking about that, right, Yeah, my mom
had to like, you know, it was really concerning ones.
I took too many. I didn't realize I was just
trying to get rid of my itchy throat and my
scratchy throat in my runny eyes, and I had taken
too many and I was literally almost slipping into a coma.
(04:33):
I mean, it's years ago when I was a teenager,
and so you add liquor to that and not realizing
the sedative effect of it. So be very careful with.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That, very very very careful. It's just heartbreaking. Like I said,
I always really liked that. I always looked forward to
bumping into her. And I gotta admit I had no idea.
It just gets to show you. You just see the
tip of the iceberg, don't you. Yeah, if anyone had
asked me, I would have said, I'm just one of
the confident, most happy people on the Planet's clearly clearly
(05:04):
I was wrong. It's such an awful way to go.
You want to say, I don't understand it. They had
so much to live for. I'm killed for a creer
like and the fame, the big house in Brooklyn, money,
None of that matters if you are really, really depressed.
(05:24):
And so this brings us to our poll question of
the day, and Morell's death has been ruled as suicide. However,
there are questions. There are a lot of questions here
I don't think there was a suicide. Note was this
an accidental overdose? And if it was, then is it
suicide or is it an accident? So what do you
think here? Do you believe then it was suicide? People
(05:47):
are shocked. People are really scratching their heads about this one.
What do you think? Do you believe it is a suicide? Hey?
Go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty niser are
by Facebook pages Naughty Gossip and to check back on
Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love, what are
you working on? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, unfortunately it's another story about grieving sadly enough, but
it's about Paris Jackson, Michael Jackson's daughter, and apparently she's
been having some meltdowns lately, most notably a big one
in Malibu when they're just saying her grief is back
because she's been actually battling depression and things over the years,
so they say she's spiraling downward. And this time the
(06:26):
world just saw it happen in public. So she's twenty
seven years old. Of course, as I mentioned, she's the
daughter of Michael Jackson, and she was spotted crying uncontrollably
during a lonely walk by herself and Malibu, just weeks
after the emotional anniversary of her father's death. Now she
looked totally raw, an eyewitness tells hashtag shooter scoop, no glam,
no makeup. You know, she's a very beautiful girl. She's
(06:49):
typically really done up when she goes out of the house,
but not this time. She was by herself, no glam,
just playing, and she was crying uncontrollably, wearing biking shorts
at a crop top, and she's seemed unrecognizable and a
bit exhausted actually. Now, Insiders says she's been pushing back
a lot online to internet trolls who can be very horrible,
(07:10):
as we all know, and career frustrations as well. She's
never quite found her niche in the entertainment industry, although
she had a great project with Willow Smith that I
thought was going to be really like I thought that
could have taken hospitals. It didn't, but it was I
thought that was really interesting, the two of them together
with this kind of folky rocky.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Thing, but didn't work.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But anyway, she's strong, many people say, you know, but
this just hit her a lot differently, and she's a
bit overwhelmed by it, and she also was facing backlash
from performing on the date of Michael's death, and people
thought that was a bit exploitive, and you know, she
lashed out back to people online, so she's been going
back and forth. So anyway, it's a breakdown that she's having.
(07:51):
It's not been staged, as people have also accused her of,
so she really can't win, even people accusing her of
faking her grief. But inside tell us it was not performative.
It was a real human breakdown.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's heartbreaking. I know the children of some celebrities, and
it's never easy. Even celebrities that have done a really,
really great job raising their kids, it's still very, very difficult.
You're always in their shadow. Nothing you ever do, You've
got to just admit this. Nothing I do in the
rest of my life is ever going to compete with
what my dad or my mom did, like these were superstars.
(08:26):
Madonna has struggled with this. Madonna's children have really struggled
with this, and so it is extraordinary difficult. I have
nothing but passion and compassion towards this. I want Paris
to be well, but I know she's really struggling. I
spoke to several of my Jackson sources. They're aware of it.
But how do you help somebody who doesn't appear to
(08:49):
want to have much help? And if she had got
the career she really wanted, I don't think that makes
you any more happy. As here Donald said that Rosie said,
I thought if I became a big star, i'd be happy.
And I did become a big star, and I was
more miserable than ever. And so I think just reaching
for this career is not the way to go. You've
got to find happiness not so You've got to find
(09:10):
it within yourself. Things come along in my life that
make me happy, but don't make my overall happiness change.
I'm happy for ten minutes, or if I get a
lovely email, I'm like, oh wow, that feels lovely. But
then you go back to your baseline of happiness. Make
sure your baseline of happiness is as high as it
possibly can be. I want a high baseline, and when
(09:33):
things come along, it gets even higher. But I don't
wait for external external factors to make me happy, because
it never ever lasts. In fact, I would go so
far as to say happiness has to be a habit.
It's something you have to learn. You have to learn
every day to be happy. It's like going to the gym.
(09:54):
It's like cleaning your teeth. It's something that you should
do every single day. I do this cory when I
clean my teeth in the morning, I look in that
mirror and I say to myself, you're going to be
happy today. I tell myself you and it feels ridiculous,
or it feels the actually work.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You've said it before, You've said it behind the sure
you said happiness is a choice. We've said it's a choice.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's a choice. And I know circumstances are awful, and
I know a lot of people, including myself, can be like, oh,
how ridiculous. You can choose to be happy because you're rich, Sure,
you're famous, or you're on television. But that is when
you're missing the point there. It's when you were not
happy that you have to choose to be happy. It
is easy to be happy when everything's going my way.
(10:38):
But the days that I don't feel well, I have
a cold, I get rejected from a job that I
really want. Something hasn't happened in my private life that
I was really looking forward to. Those are the days
I rush into that bathroom. I know Brice must think
I'm pee all the time. So I rush them into
that bathroom and I look in that mirror and I say,
you are going to be happy. And I've trained myself.
(10:59):
It's a muscle. It literally is.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Past affirmations are really important to.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Is a habit naughty? So okay, moving along. This story
made me chockole. It's a little bit naughty, but the
sources did make me giggle a little bit. And they've
got a sense of humor in this family. So rest
in peace, Ossie Osborne. However, just the day after Ossie passed,
Hulk Hogan passed and I'm told the Osborne's are But
this was how dairy and how day. This reminds me
(11:30):
of when Pharah I was just gonna say that with
Michael hours later, Michael, I.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Mean, can you imagine, because it was really when that happened,
it was like a fairer Pharaoh farah, and then it
just like that became all about Michael the same day.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, and now who do you put on the cover
of People magazine? Next? Do you do Ozzie? Do you
do Hule Hogan? Do you do a split was the
editor I do a split cover. Yeah, both of that.
I think they even knew each other because they were
both in the eighties and the nineties, and so I
think the probably a photograph of them backstage somewhere or
maybe at a at a wrestling show. And so it
(12:05):
did make me giggle though that the final movements. These
people can't help themselves. So that's why the stars, Corey,
that is why they are celebrities. This really matters to
their oh well, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It also reminds me of similarly when Charlie's Angels were
still on and there was gonna be the big announcement
of who like this next angel was, and it was
Tanya Roberts and she was going to be the next
big thing, and they had all this press lined up.
She was lined up for the cover of everything all
to hit simultaneously at the same time that one day
(12:42):
and John Lennon got assassinated and.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Literally the world's changes.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The world changed in a second, and I think that
you know, she she she went on to do some things,
but she was supposed to be this big thing, and
that was like the night before her big press drop and.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Jelly goodness, I was with Jessica Simpson at I think
the Today Show, a CBS morning show, and she was
going to perform live on the plaza outside and it
was her big comeback after breaking up with Nick Lache.
She'd put together an album and she was going to
come back and be bigger than ever, and all the
attention was on her because everybody was obsessed Nick and
(13:20):
the breakup. And Steve Irwin is that Yeah, he died
ten minutes before she went. She didn't perform, and we
sat in the green room and I was like, we
got he's dead, Like, let's chose respect it, and she
was very respectful. But life throws you, It throws you unpredictability,
(13:45):
and I think that is part of the joy of life.
And it's ironic that we're talking about life while talking
about the death of two people. But I do believe
in that circle of life. I think it all goes
around here, and I don't think in the big picture
here them die pretty much on the same day, just hours,
a part, a day apart. I don't think it's going
to change either one of their legs. I think that
(14:06):
we're going to still remember, We're going to remember whole,
which is a complicated story. Well they both have. Yeah, yeah,
they will.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of you know, like I
just say, yeah, if you google how black people are
responding to his death and how white people are responding,
there's two different reactions. And also I didn't realize Asie
you know, uh, well, I'll just tell people to google
Ozzie Osbourne and cats and they can make their own.
Not the Broadway show, but the animal. There's a whole
(14:34):
thing that I didn't realize that he has.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
There's cruelty, he's complicated. I go on TV. I've been
asked to you. You do it too, Corey. I've been
asked to go on TV over the last couple of
days to talk about both of these. A very balanced picture,
and I get it. When somebody is past, you want
to be all positive, you want to don't want to
bring up with the blad stuff. But you are your
whole life here and there's we keep it real there,
(14:57):
very very questionable in dur Vidual's rest in peace. Okay,
We're going to take a quick break and we will
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty Bernt Ninsham,
your host shoot with our dear friend Corey Andrew. Hey, Corey,
let's get to the polls. Last show, we didn't have
(15:18):
a poll, Corey. We don't do polls when the subject
matter is really, really grim. It felt disrespectful. Our lead
story was Ozzie Osbourne and so there's no poll on Ozzy.
I grew up in the same time as him Birmingham, England.
He was like a I mean, it's a rock star
around the world, but in Birmingham he was like a
local absolute I can't hate. Don't forget to vote on
(15:39):
today's pole. Go to a Twitter page had Naughty Nice
RABA facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check back on Monday to hear your results are. Now
it's time for our nice of the Day.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, you know it's kind of nice, but I have
my opinion about it. But exclusive story here. Brad Pitt
is supporting Jen Aniston's new man. I like it, you
like it, okay, But well he's not dialing it in.
You know, he's he's he's just really not jealous.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Says that he's relieved. That actually so right.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So apparently you know he's totally cool with her new romance.
But don't expect a congratulatory phone call. There's no contact,
confirms one insider. But Brad smiling from Afar and that's it.
Now she's fifty six years old, Jen is and she's
getting cozy these days with hypnotists and wellness guru Jim Curtis.
Now they were in Europe officially kind of gone out
publicly on this yacht, having a sexy little date, and
(16:35):
he's got her glowings as a friend, and Brad's really
really happy for her in this instance. The reason why
I say I'm not sure how I feel about that
is because who is Brad to feel happy for her
or not?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Like Brad really dogged her out with.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Angelina No shade, no shade, So who cares if he's
happy for her or not? Like Brad, who cares?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We forget about this show memory. I don't want to
say behold the grid love Yeah. When ccob says that
the beaches that I gotta log, I love it. What
I like about this, though, is your x can move
on and you can be happy. You don't need to pray,
you don't need to phone them. I've seen xys on facebooks.
(17:13):
Can you believe that, Corey, that I actually do have exes,
people let me go fool can see them once and
I can be happy. I can see people that I'm
not close with anymore but I was at one point,
and I see them on Facebook, and sometimes I want
to text them like, oh, congratulated. I probably don't want
to want to be back involved in their lives. So
(17:34):
I think this is the lesson here is you can
be grateful from a distance. Okay, I can enjoy it.
It can be grateful, and it's kind of fake to
text them or be like, oh well done, or like
because I don't really want to be back in your
life and I wish, well, I can still be He'll
still be happy from a distance. We remember what you did.
(17:55):
Just think Timer Lake is miserable on his tour and
he just wants it to be over. So there's footage
of here performing in room Mania as if they're not
rich enough. It just makes me laugh. The countries and
these people go through for the money. Really, it's like
Jlo in the middle least at the moment her tour,
she's doing the oddest place. Really, because Zakistan and I
(18:16):
had to look upon a map, I couldn't. Yeah, you're right,
I wonder what she's doing about all that. All that, buddy,
it doesn't seem to be affecting her. Hammada the Twitter
to Justin. He's barely phoning it in as a perform Yeah,
it's a gig that he doesn't really want to. There's
no press there that he really cares about. However, everybody
has a cell phone, and so we do see this.
(18:38):
I've not seen it. Yeah, it's so lazy. You know,
if you don't want to do it, don't do if
you're not going to turn up. We spend a lot
of money on seeing our favorite art, Yes, and I
really look forward to a great concert, and it's happened
to me. I've been to shows where I've seen them
like they don't really care. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, Like you know Mariah Carey, who I love, love
her video footage in a recent year or two. I
mean she's walking like she's got bunions on her toes.
Grandmother moved faster. I don't you know. I would be
a little annoyed.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
If I saw I saw Elton John who I love,
in Vegas once and he was just having a.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Bad night and order to those you know.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I still paid one hundred dollars. You haven't a bad night.
It's cost me a hundred dollars. I wasn't happy about that.
And notice of the day justin. If you don't want
to do it, don't do it. Okay, let's end with
her moment. Be patient with yourself because you're becoming somebody
that you've never been before. Growth is always always difficult,
(19:39):
and becoming something new is never, never easy, but it
is worth it. So you've got to shed your old
habits and letting go of that old version of yourself.
It is not easy. It is not easy, and stepping
into something new that's very, very, very difficult. So of
course you're going to feel uncomfortable because this version of
you has never existed before. Give yourself some grace, give
(20:03):
yourself some time, and trust the process. You're not behind,
you're not broken, you are becoming. Stick with it, my friends. Hey,
that is it for this week. Thank you so much
for sticking with me and the Naughty but Nice with
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Speaker 1 (20:40):
Starting, but nice with Rob
Sure it's time.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, welcome to the naught even nice, am your host,
wrong shooter and it is Friday, which means our dear
friend Corey Andrew joins us. Hey, Corey, are you there?
I am here with bells on. You sounded delicious, darm
and I can finally speak, So thank you Naughties for
sticking with me for the last three or four days.
I was quite sicky. I had this horrible summer cold
(00:37):
and then finally shaken off. But I was such a
good boy. There was drinks last night with a friend
of mine that I desperately wanted to go. I had
to post that I just Corey, I'd been sick for
four days. I've been moping around the house. I'm a
horrible sixth person. I've been making Bruce run up and
down the hallway to get me cup to tea. Had
I had a shower and put on my nice clothes
(00:57):
and trotted out this house. My god, he would have
been like, I just looked after you for four days,
Where are you going? What are you doing? So thankfully
I stayed home. I think that's the nicest thing about
getting older is I'm not quite as desperate. I don't
feel like I'm missing out on stuff anymore. I used
to when I was little, I'd go to everything. I
was almost like, is it called fear of missing out? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But you know, Rob, it's so funny. I'm the same way.
Like you know, when we first got to New York
and tried this whole thing again, I was so desperate
to go they like they say, I'd go to the
opening of an envelope if I could have. And now
I get all the invites and I'm like, maybe no,
and I'm just homing my flip.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Flops and like watching TV with haggin Das. You know,
I'd rather be here behind my phone talking with all
the naughties. But I am feeling better. So thank you,
thank you. Let's jump into our show. What time is it?
My friends? It is time. Big story at the top
of the Shaw So Ambarell, the Worst Cooks in America host,
fifty five years old, was found dead in the shower
(02:01):
in her Brooklyn apartment, surrounded by pills. Now authorities it's
been about three four maybe five weeks. Authorities have ruled
that it was a suicide by overdose Benna drill and booze.
But in a circle is pushing back. So I've known
Anne for at least a decade. A friend of mine
even dated her husband's stewart before they were together, although
(02:24):
the exchange got a little sloppy at the end. I'm
gonna say no more. So I've known Nan, I've always
really liked her. She told me once that she just
didn't feel pretty enough to be on TV because she
was great, she was fun, she was bubbling, but she
didn't look like a stereotypical model, and she she really
felt that, and so I know she struggled. However, friends
(02:44):
are now saying that the night before she died, she
was out at an improv show. She was smiling, she
was hugging, she was laughing. None of this makes any sense, now,
I should point out here, just because on the outside
you look really happy, it doesn't mean anything. You know,
naught is. We can all put on a smile, we
can all have a laugh, but we can feel terrible.
I don't want us all to think that, oh my goodness,
(03:07):
oh my goodness, because she was laughing, because she was smiling,
she couldn't possibly, couldn't possibly have committed suicide. That isn't
how it works. It's all heartbreaking, but there are still
a lot of questions. Was this an accidental overdose? I
don't think a note was found. Often people that commit
(03:28):
suicide they know it's suicide because of the note. Otherwise
it could have been an accidental overdose. I don't think.
There are still some questions, So I understand why her
friends are concerned. But I don't think here we can
say just because she looked happy, she was. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, also too, people have to realize people famous people
such as Robin Williams, for example, is a great example
of someone who on the outside we all thought he
was like America's or the world's jesture. He made us
all and feel good, and he was terribly wounded inside,
which resulted in his own suicide, you know, taking his
own life. But I will also say benadrill is very
(04:10):
very drowsy inducing. You drowse inducing. You can accidentally really
overdose on benadrilla. I've been there because I have allergies.
We were just talking about that, right, Yeah, my mom
had to like, you know, it was really concerning ones.
I took too many. I didn't realize I was just
trying to get rid of my itchy throat and my
scratchy throat in my runny eyes, and I had taken
too many and I was literally almost slipping into a coma.
(04:33):
I mean, it's years ago when I was a teenager,
and so you add liquor to that and not realizing
the sedative effect of it. So be very careful with.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That, very very very careful. It's just heartbreaking. Like I said,
I always really liked that. I always looked forward to
bumping into her. And I gotta admit I had no idea.
It just gets to show you. You just see the
tip of the iceberg, don't you. Yeah, if anyone had
asked me, I would have said, I'm just one of
the confident, most happy people on the Planet's clearly clearly
(05:04):
I was wrong. It's such an awful way to go.
You want to say, I don't understand it. They had
so much to live for. I'm killed for a creer
like and the fame, the big house in Brooklyn, money,
None of that matters if you are really, really depressed.
(05:24):
And so this brings us to our poll question of
the day, and Morell's death has been ruled as suicide. However,
there are questions. There are a lot of questions here
I don't think there was a suicide. Note was this
an accidental overdose? And if it was, then is it
suicide or is it an accident? So what do you
think here? Do you believe then it was suicide? People
(05:47):
are shocked. People are really scratching their heads about this one.
What do you think? Do you believe it is a suicide? Hey?
Go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty niser are
by Facebook pages Naughty Gossip and to check back on
Monday to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love, what are
you working on? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Well, unfortunately it's another story about grieving sadly enough, but
it's about Paris Jackson, Michael Jackson's daughter, and apparently she's
been having some meltdowns lately, most notably a big one
in Malibu when they're just saying her grief is back
because she's been actually battling depression and things over the years,
so they say she's spiraling downward. And this time the
(06:26):
world just saw it happen in public. So she's twenty
seven years old. Of course, as I mentioned, she's the
daughter of Michael Jackson, and she was spotted crying uncontrollably
during a lonely walk by herself and Malibu, just weeks
after the emotional anniversary of her father's death. Now she
looked totally raw, an eyewitness tells hashtag shooter scoop, no glam,
no makeup. You know, she's a very beautiful girl. She's
(06:49):
typically really done up when she goes out of the house,
but not this time. She was by herself, no glam,
just playing, and she was crying uncontrollably, wearing biking shorts
at a crop top, and she's seemed unrecognizable and a
bit exhausted actually. Now, Insiders says she's been pushing back
a lot online to internet trolls who can be very horrible,
(07:10):
as we all know, and career frustrations as well. She's
never quite found her niche in the entertainment industry, although
she had a great project with Willow Smith that I
thought was going to be really like I thought that
could have taken hospitals. It didn't, but it was I
thought that was really interesting, the two of them together
with this kind of folky rocky.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Thing, but didn't work.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But anyway, she's strong, many people say, you know, but
this just hit her a lot differently, and she's a
bit overwhelmed by it, and she also was facing backlash
from performing on the date of Michael's death, and people
thought that was a bit exploitive, and you know, she
lashed out back to people online, so she's been going
back and forth. So anyway, it's a breakdown that she's having.
(07:51):
It's not been staged, as people have also accused her of,
so she really can't win, even people accusing her of
faking her grief. But inside tell us it was not performative.
It was a real human breakdown.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's heartbreaking. I know the children of some celebrities, and
it's never easy. Even celebrities that have done a really,
really great job raising their kids, it's still very, very difficult.
You're always in their shadow. Nothing you ever do, You've
got to just admit this. Nothing I do in the
rest of my life is ever going to compete with
what my dad or my mom did, like these were superstars.
(08:26):
Madonna has struggled with this. Madonna's children have really struggled
with this, and so it is extraordinary difficult. I have
nothing but passion and compassion towards this. I want Paris
to be well, but I know she's really struggling. I
spoke to several of my Jackson sources. They're aware of it.
But how do you help somebody who doesn't appear to
(08:49):
want to have much help? And if she had got
the career she really wanted, I don't think that makes
you any more happy. As here Donald said that Rosie said,
I thought if I became a big star, i'd be happy.
And I did become a big star, and I was
more miserable than ever. And so I think just reaching
for this career is not the way to go. You've
got to find happiness not so You've got to find
(09:10):
it within yourself. Things come along in my life that
make me happy, but don't make my overall happiness change.
I'm happy for ten minutes, or if I get a
lovely email, I'm like, oh wow, that feels lovely. But
then you go back to your baseline of happiness. Make
sure your baseline of happiness is as high as it
possibly can be. I want a high baseline, and when
(09:33):
things come along, it gets even higher. But I don't
wait for external external factors to make me happy, because
it never ever lasts. In fact, I would go so
far as to say happiness has to be a habit.
It's something you have to learn. You have to learn
every day to be happy. It's like going to the gym.
(09:54):
It's like cleaning your teeth. It's something that you should
do every single day. I do this cory when I
clean my teeth in the morning, I look in that
mirror and I say to myself, you're going to be
happy today. I tell myself you and it feels ridiculous,
or it feels the actually work.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You've said it before, You've said it behind the sure
you said happiness is a choice. We've said it's a choice.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's a choice. And I know circumstances are awful, and
I know a lot of people, including myself, can be like, oh,
how ridiculous. You can choose to be happy because you're rich, Sure,
you're famous, or you're on television. But that is when
you're missing the point there. It's when you were not
happy that you have to choose to be happy. It
is easy to be happy when everything's going my way.
(10:38):
But the days that I don't feel well, I have
a cold, I get rejected from a job that I
really want. Something hasn't happened in my private life that
I was really looking forward to. Those are the days
I rush into that bathroom. I know Brice must think
I'm pee all the time. So I rush them into
that bathroom and I look in that mirror and I say,
you are going to be happy. And I've trained myself.
(10:59):
It's a muscle. It literally is.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Past affirmations are really important to.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Is a habit naughty? So okay, moving along. This story
made me chockole. It's a little bit naughty, but the
sources did make me giggle a little bit. And they've
got a sense of humor in this family. So rest
in peace, Ossie Osborne. However, just the day after Ossie passed,
Hulk Hogan passed and I'm told the Osborne's are But
this was how dairy and how day. This reminds me
(11:30):
of when Pharah I was just gonna say that with
Michael hours later, Michael, I.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Mean, can you imagine, because it was really when that happened,
it was like a fairer Pharaoh farah, and then it
just like that became all about Michael the same day.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yes, and now who do you put on the cover
of People magazine? Next? Do you do Ozzie? Do you
do Hule Hogan? Do you do a split was the
editor I do a split cover. Yeah, both of that.
I think they even knew each other because they were
both in the eighties and the nineties, and so I
think the probably a photograph of them backstage somewhere or
maybe at a at a wrestling show. And so it
(12:05):
did make me giggle though that the final movements. These
people can't help themselves. So that's why the stars, Corey,
that is why they are celebrities. This really matters to
their oh well, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It also reminds me of similarly when Charlie's Angels were
still on and there was gonna be the big announcement
of who like this next angel was, and it was
Tanya Roberts and she was going to be the next
big thing, and they had all this press lined up.
She was lined up for the cover of everything all
to hit simultaneously at the same time that one day
(12:42):
and John Lennon got assassinated and.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Literally the world's changes.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The world changed in a second, and I think that
you know, she she she went on to do some things,
but she was supposed to be this big thing, and
that was like the night before her big press drop and.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Jelly goodness, I was with Jessica Simpson at I think
the Today Show, a CBS morning show, and she was
going to perform live on the plaza outside and it
was her big comeback after breaking up with Nick Lache.
She'd put together an album and she was going to
come back and be bigger than ever, and all the
attention was on her because everybody was obsessed Nick and
(13:20):
the breakup. And Steve Irwin is that Yeah, he died
ten minutes before she went. She didn't perform, and we
sat in the green room and I was like, we
got he's dead, Like, let's chose respect it, and she
was very respectful. But life throws you, It throws you unpredictability,
(13:45):
and I think that is part of the joy of life.
And it's ironic that we're talking about life while talking
about the death of two people. But I do believe
in that circle of life. I think it all goes
around here, and I don't think in the big picture
here them die pretty much on the same day, just hours,
a part, a day apart. I don't think it's going
to change either one of their legs. I think that
(14:06):
we're going to still remember, We're going to remember whole,
which is a complicated story. Well they both have. Yeah, yeah,
they will.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of you know, like I
just say, yeah, if you google how black people are
responding to his death and how white people are responding,
there's two different reactions. And also I didn't realize Asie
you know, uh, well, I'll just tell people to google
Ozzie Osbourne and cats and they can make their own.
Not the Broadway show, but the animal. There's a whole
(14:34):
thing that I didn't realize that he has.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
There's cruelty, he's complicated. I go on TV. I've been
asked to you. You do it too, Corey. I've been
asked to go on TV over the last couple of
days to talk about both of these. A very balanced picture,
and I get it. When somebody is past, you want
to be all positive, you want to don't want to
bring up with the blad stuff. But you are your
whole life here and there's we keep it real there,
(14:57):
very very questionable in dur Vidual's rest in peace. Okay,
We're going to take a quick break and we will
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty Bernt Ninsham,
your host shoot with our dear friend Corey Andrew. Hey, Corey,
let's get to the polls. Last show, we didn't have
(15:18):
a poll, Corey. We don't do polls when the subject
matter is really, really grim. It felt disrespectful. Our lead
story was Ozzie Osbourne and so there's no poll on Ozzy.
I grew up in the same time as him Birmingham, England.
He was like a I mean, it's a rock star
around the world, but in Birmingham he was like a
local absolute I can't hate. Don't forget to vote on
(15:39):
today's pole. Go to a Twitter page had Naughty Nice
RABA facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check back on Monday to hear your results are. Now
it's time for our nice of the Day.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, you know it's kind of nice, but I have
my opinion about it. But exclusive story here. Brad Pitt
is supporting Jen Aniston's new man. I like it, you
like it, okay, But well he's not dialing it in.
You know, he's he's he's just really not jealous.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Says that he's relieved. That actually so right.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So apparently you know he's totally cool with her new romance.
But don't expect a congratulatory phone call. There's no contact,
confirms one insider. But Brad smiling from Afar and that's it.
Now she's fifty six years old, Jen is and she's
getting cozy these days with hypnotists and wellness guru Jim Curtis.
Now they were in Europe officially kind of gone out
publicly on this yacht, having a sexy little date, and
(16:35):
he's got her glowings as a friend, and Brad's really
really happy for her in this instance. The reason why
I say I'm not sure how I feel about that
is because who is Brad to feel happy for her
or not?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Like Brad really dogged her out with.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Angelina No shade, no shade, So who cares if he's
happy for her or not? Like Brad, who cares?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We forget about this show memory. I don't want to
say behold the grid love Yeah. When ccob says that
the beaches that I gotta log, I love it. What
I like about this, though, is your x can move
on and you can be happy. You don't need to pray,
you don't need to phone them. I've seen xys on facebooks.
(17:13):
Can you believe that, Corey, that I actually do have exes,
people let me go fool can see them once and
I can be happy. I can see people that I'm
not close with anymore but I was at one point,
and I see them on Facebook, and sometimes I want
to text them like, oh, congratulated. I probably don't want
to want to be back involved in their lives. So
(17:34):
I think this is the lesson here is you can
be grateful from a distance. Okay, I can enjoy it.
It can be grateful, and it's kind of fake to
text them or be like, oh well done, or like
because I don't really want to be back in your
life and I wish, well, I can still be He'll
still be happy from a distance. We remember what you did.
(17:55):
Just think Timer Lake is miserable on his tour and
he just wants it to be over. So there's footage
of here performing in room Mania as if they're not
rich enough. It just makes me laugh. The countries and
these people go through for the money. Really, it's like
Jlo in the middle least at the moment her tour,
she's doing the oddest place. Really, because Zakistan and I
(18:16):
had to look upon a map, I couldn't. Yeah, you're right,
I wonder what she's doing about all that. All that, buddy,
it doesn't seem to be affecting her. Hammada the Twitter
to Justin. He's barely phoning it in as a perform Yeah,
it's a gig that he doesn't really want to. There's
no press there that he really cares about. However, everybody
has a cell phone, and so we do see this.
(18:38):
I've not seen it. Yeah, it's so lazy. You know,
if you don't want to do it, don't do if
you're not going to turn up. We spend a lot
of money on seeing our favorite art, Yes, and I
really look forward to a great concert, and it's happened
to me. I've been to shows where I've seen them
like they don't really care. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, Like you know Mariah Carey, who I love, love
her video footage in a recent year or two. I
mean she's walking like she's got bunions on her toes.
Grandmother moved faster. I don't you know. I would be
a little annoyed.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
If I saw I saw Elton John who I love,
in Vegas once and he was just having a.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Bad night and order to those you know.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I still paid one hundred dollars. You haven't a bad night.
It's cost me a hundred dollars. I wasn't happy about that.
And notice of the day justin. If you don't want
to do it, don't do it. Okay, let's end with
her moment. Be patient with yourself because you're becoming somebody
that you've never been before. Growth is always always difficult,
(19:39):
and becoming something new is never, never easy, but it
is worth it. So you've got to shed your old
habits and letting go of that old version of yourself.
It is not easy. It is not easy, and stepping
into something new that's very, very, very difficult. So of
course you're going to feel uncomfortable because this version of
you has never existed before. Give yourself some grace, give
(20:03):
yourself some time, and trust the process. You're not behind,
you're not broken, you are becoming. Stick with it, my friends. Hey,
that is it for this week. Thank you so much
for sticking with me and the Naughty but Nice with
Robin Corey Show. We're a production of Elbers Durant and iHeartRadio.
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