Bethenny Frankel is fuming after watching Carole Radziwill and Andy Cohen cozy up on Watch What Happens Live — hugging, laughing, and pretending years of Bravo betrayal never happened. Meanwhile, after a federal judge shot down his $50 million bail offer, Sean “Diddy” Combs is said to be “furious but focused.” And Meghan Markle is “absolutely livid” as half-sister Samantha Markle revives her defamation lawsuit, dragging the Duchess back into the headlines — and back into a toxic family feud she’s desperate to escape.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Advice, sugar.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's it's time hell love love, love Love. Hello, welcome
to the Naughty but Nice Sham your house throughout the Shooter,
and it's Wednesday. Normally on Wednesday, our dear friend Donnie
Meacham joins us. But we've we've got to have a
surprise today. Our friend Garrett is here who couldn't join
us on Monday, So we get Garrett on a Wednesday, Ella,
my friend, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I feel naughty, I feel weird, but you know what,
I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I like it. I like shaking bigs up a little bit.
So on Monday you were busy at work. So while
we do this podcast, we try to do them very
early in the morning so you can listen to it
all day long. Garrett does have a morning job, I
should point out. So on Monday you got a little
bit busy, but today you managed to squeeze us in.
So thank you very.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Much for you the naughties. Anything, okay, just anything, you
just say it. You know, you reach out to me
and say, hey, I will find a way to get.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It done for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh, thank you, Dolin. Can I get ten thousand dollars? No?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, Well, there's there's you gotta read the fine print
at the bottom of that.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
By the way, anything but.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I got to get back to Netflix watching Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's right. Let's jump into the show What time is it?
My Friends? And big story at the top of the show.
So Bethany Frankel is blindsided that Carol Radziwell and Andy
Cohen have had a reunion. So this is a little
bit complicated. I can help you get through those. Karen
Radziwell was on The Housewives for several seasons. She's related
to the Kennedys, so she's sort of probably the most
(01:42):
prestigious housewife they've ever had. And let me explain that
her mother in law, Lee Radzowell, was Jackie Kennedy's sister,
so that's how they are related. It's a close relation.
So she was on the show. She had a horrible
falling out with Andy. She had a horrible falling out
with Bethany Well. Now Andy and Carol are friends, but
(02:06):
Bethany is still not friends with either. This has put
her into quite a tricky position because now Bethany is
the odd one as what do you think?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
What's funny about Bethany is that I want nothing to
do with you people, nothing, nothing to do without So
have nothing to do with you, Andy, nothing to do
with anybody that has ever stepped foot on the set
of Real Housewives. And then like, you know, a few
months later, Hey, why does Ellen want to hang out
with me? You know, like, come on, get real.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah. Bethany was really aggressive about the Housewives. So when
Carol and Andy had a falling out, it was about editing.
She didn't like the way she was being portrayed on
the show. Carol's quite a control freak. I get it.
She's member of that Kennedy clan, and so she stepped away.
She's not really spoken about Housewives for seven years. When
she was done, she was done. Well, she does have
a new project coming out. I think it's a doctor
(03:00):
mentory about the Kennedys of which she is part, and
she wanted to promote it. So dig dog, there's somebody
at the door. It's Handy Coin. Suddenly they are friends again. Now. Bethany, though,
went much further. Bethany accused Andy of some really awful things.
She tried to bring down Bravo. She brought in lawyer,
she tried to get it unionized. She said there was
(03:21):
going to be a reckoning. Can you imagine them or
even a HR department, You would just imagine trying to
control these people. So Bethany really went for it. Bethany
has a habit of falling out with a lot of people.
We know about her personal relationships, her dramas with her
ex husband, they don't.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Speak and west.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We saw her fall out with Jill Zaren, one of
her best friends. We saw her fall out with Carol,
We saw her fall out with Andy. Friends of Bethany
tell me, she just can't help us up. She's going
to bite you at some points, like you might be
her best friend today. And arguably Andy Cohen invented Bethany Frankel.
She had been trying for a really long time to
be famous. I knew Bethany years before The Housewives. She
(04:07):
was a chef, a baker, She was trying to get
in the magazines. She was walking red carpet, she was
trying to date people in the business to help her.
And then The Housewives happened, and it took off for
her and all her dreams. Everything she always said she
wanted she got, but it wasn't enough, right, And so
that's when she started to get a little bit nasty. So, now,
Carol and Andy, your friends, Bethany is the one all
(04:29):
by herself.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Didn't she get mad at you for like eating your
you ate her ramen one day or something she did?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
She did get mad with me. Her best friend at
the time was a reporter at Page six, and Bethany
loved to be in the papers. It was the first
season of the House years really, and so the minute
this friend of mine who worked at Page six left,
Bethany dumped her and I went on a little bit
of a campaign, a war here to protect my friend.
(04:56):
I felt like my friend had really been un friend
like that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You're a good friend.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm a good friend like that. But what I've learned
from this, and what's Bethany is learning now is when
you fight other people's wars, they might end up as
really close friends and you're the one that's left out.
Joan Rivers once told me she went to war with somebody.
She was furious because somebody had in soliltitude. I think
it was Judge Judy, who was very close to Joan.
And then guess what, Judge Judy and this person made friends,
(05:21):
and Shawl was on the outside. It's very very tricky here.
Do you think so Andy's forgiven peril? It was an
ugly falling out, Carol's forgiven Andy. It's very transactional here
though they both want something from one another. Do you
think now when Bethany not if I'm sure she will
when she picks up the phone and calls Andy or
text Simmons, can we have a reunion? Can we make friends?
(05:45):
Do you think he'll do it now? Andy loves the ratings.
This would be great for ratings to have a watch
what happens with Bethany. But you can't really trust Bethany.
Once she bites you, she will probably bite you again.
What do you think here? Do you think Bethany and
Andy will ever kiss a maker? No? No, No, I
think you're probably right here. They get a point, doesn't it.
(06:05):
I try not to hold a grudg I really do,
and I try to move on. And there's very very
few people that I think I'm at war with that
they're really I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
think they're at war with me.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We all have those, but you all have.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, one of to and for me it's once I
can't trust you, I don't mind if you're a stinker,
as long as I know you're a stinker, like I don't.
I can really deal with very difficult people because I
know the truth. What always shocks me, and what I
never really like is when somebody pretends to be something
and they're not.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just and you know that too, You're like, that is
not you, that's not you.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You're a villain. Like you're the Omerosa of my life.
You are the villain of my life. You're the Bethany
frankl of my love. Just admit it, and I sort
of like it. I do have some really saucy, cheeky,
naughty friends, but I keep them in arm's length. And
I think, here, wouldnt you go after Andy personally, which
Bethany did, Wouldn't you will have to brather she tried
(07:01):
to bring down the show she was once you issued Honestly,
I feel like that once you issue a lawsuit, there's
no there's no turning back, which brings us to our
whole question. After the day Bethany Frankly is blind sided
that Carol and Andy are friends again. Are Carol and
anti trashing Bethany right now? Like that is going to
(07:23):
be such a fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
A bottle of Skinny Girl and just threw it against
the wall. You know what I mean? Like like.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The topic of conversation with Andie and Carol have drinks?
Please call me? You both have my email address, you
both have my phoneer but ay, please please, Carol, please
please please. I want to come. I won't say anything,
I'll just listen. I want to be there for that.
What do you think? Are they both trashing Beethany? Yes
or no? Go vote on our Twitter page add Naughty
Ice rab facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure
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to check back to Amar Router here your results. Take
erret Love, what are you working on?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well? I mean the obvious story.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Did he upset that he's not getting out of jail
prior to the sentencing, so a federal judge denied a
fifty million dollar bail package. Our sources are telling us
to let Diddy out of jail part of his legal strategy.
So does that mean he would pay fifty million dollars
(08:22):
to get out here?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He put fifty million dollars up his bombs, so you
get the money back. But if he escapes to another
country or if he doesn't turn up for the sentence
in they keep the fifty million.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That is insane.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But also yesterday it was revealed that his law team,
his lawyers, are trying to petition to get President Trump
to give Diddy a pardon. And you know, this whole
thing is interesting because first off, Did He's been denied
you know, nine different ways over the last like two weeks.
(08:55):
You know, and you know, you know Diddy very very
well from working with him in your previous life, So
you know, when Did he doesn't get what he wants,
he gets up upset and frustrated.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And he keeps going. He doesn't take no for an answer.
He's never taken.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Now, so he's just He's just I can only imagine
he is just pacing back and forth in his celf.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh I believe him, you know what, with rage, you know, like, yeah, oh,
I can see. I've seen him be angry. I've seen
him when he got turned down for the cover of
People magazine. He went free magazine. People, that's a magazine.
You're in jail. I think because Puffy was found innocent
of the three really serious charges. The two charges that
he was found guilty of are big charges. You could
(09:36):
go away for ten to twenty years. It's it's not nothing. However,
the three massive charges that would have put him in
jail for the rest of his life, he was found
in a cent of those, and that will be what
Puffy will take away. He'll think of that as a win.
And when Puffy's winning, if you say no to him,
he will go, buh, fifty million dollars here they said no, no, no,
we're not letting you out until the sentence in. And
(09:58):
remember when the sentence in happening. I think the minimum
he can get his two or three years, so he's
not gonna get out. We're not gonna see he's.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Gonna have at two three years. He's gonna have time served.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I think, yes, what he's beating for about a year,
but I think the minimum's about five years, so he's
already done a year, so maybe three or four year.
But you know what, I think, ultimately I'll have another
two or three years in jail. But he's not gonna
give up. That's the thing here about Puff. He does
not accept the rules. Different rules apply for him, and
I would argue the verdict as bad as it is,
(10:26):
it's a bad verdict. It could have been muss. He
will take that as a whit.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But isn't this only like stage one. He's got you know,
a dozen more civil trials Silvil trial. And here's the
other thing too, I think if, if, if he does
see the light of day outside of the jail cell
and you know, gets to walk free, I think there
will be some type of another federal case. You know,
the Feds just sitting right on the on the corner,
(10:52):
you know, waiting for him to you know, make.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bail and then put them back in cuffs, and.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Almost like you turn, like he's not gonna see it's
not even going to make it to the street corner,
I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
My experience with really rich and powerful people is if
they get away with something, they do it again. You
don't have to be rich and famous for that to happen.
If you get away with stealing matt cookie out of
the jar, you're going to take another one.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I don't think he's even going to get a chance
to try it again because I think there's so much
more stuff that we haven't even scratched the service with.
Remember all these lawsuits, the four the five K charges
that he went up against. That was just round one
there's still you know, ten more different cases talking about
different things that we don't aren't even aware of yet.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So yeah, the hard thing about these lawsuits now is
it's about money, right, it's not about jail time civil suits.
So he could lose all his money, but try getting it.
As we've seen from Egen Carol, I think her name is,
she's owed eighty million dollars. She hasn't seen a penny.
I think Alec Jones, who denied the Sandy Hook disaster,
he was ordered to pay a billion. He's not handed
(11:55):
over any money. So I would imagine what Diddy and
his team are doing now, working very hard to hide
all his millions. But did he not out of jail yet.
I don't think it's going to happen. I think the system,
the legal system is going to hold tough on this one,
and then he will be sentenced. I think he's sentenced
in October and then maybe, oh my goodness, that's true too.
(12:20):
He could. I don't because when I was working with
did he he was very close with Trump. Trump was
at the parties, he was there, I'd see him, and
so he is close. It could happen if he can,
if he can pardon the January sixth rioters. He could
potentially pardon Diddy. I could see this happening. Oh yeah, yeah,
what are we living in? Okay? Moving along, Jimmy Fallon
(12:41):
has took a pay cut to keep his job. So
Jimmy has renewed his job through twenty twenty eight, so
he've got Jimmy for two more years. He was earning
a staggering, staggering sixteen million dollars a year. That's over
a million dollars a month. A million dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Does he live.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Now? Is down to just ten boo hoos, it's just
slowly definitely too But he doesn't have to work. Yeah,
he doesn't have to work five days a week. Then
just doing four days and weeks we get to day off.
They're going to cut some costs on the show so
to keep these very expensive shows on there. We know
they're expensive from Stephen Colbert. They're gonna have to make
some cuts. That's called business, that's called life. Television is
(13:20):
not there, it's just entertainment. Still, I know, I know this.
It's about money. The reason I'm successful is I'm not
terribly talented, but I'm cheap. I'm a good price. I'm
a fair price.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Some of my friends were a fair price.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We're a fair price. Zero, we're a very fair price.
Would they'll never We produce it, we edit it, we
do all the work. Yes, And you gotta know your worth.
I know, mind it ate a lot, and Jimmy Fallon's
worth was really inflated. I think he'll be fine at
ten million. But it's interesting, isn't it. Wouldt you earn
megabooks ten million, that is still megabooks, But once you
(13:56):
earn the megabooks garret, it's difficult. Whatever you earn to
take a pay cut, it's difficut.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, I think it is seeing the landscape.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You know, it kind of definitely played a part in
Jimmy's mind, but NBC also sees it as he's not
as political as Colbert does. You know, lean a little
that way from time to time. But the majority of
it is just skits and shows. And Jimmy was also
producing game shows for NBC two, so there's a whole
(14:26):
more package to it than just you know, is he
going left?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Is he going right? On TV?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But he's providing more for NBC at again a very
I guess, yeah, yeah, cost a fishing price.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You're really smart about that. Let's be honest. Who Lord Michael,
who is the creator and EP of Saturday Night Live.
He is Jimmy's protector there So this getting renewed, I'm told,
is about Lord Michaels. They don't want to mess with Lorne.
They owe him s and l fifty years of it.
So I think the fact every renewed this to twenty
twenty eight, that tells me a little signal here that
(14:58):
SNL will be fine too for couple more years. They're
not gonna mess with Lawn Michaels. It's amazing. We see
Jimmy as a big star, and what we forget is
he is a big star, but the real powers behind
the scenes, it always is. It's not the person on TV,
it's the executives upstairs. Lawn Michael is Jimmy's savior, protector,
and NBC are not gonna mess with him. So we've
(15:20):
got Jimmy for a few more years. Okay, We're going
to take a quick break and we will be right back.
Welcome back to the Not even Nice Show. It's flying
by today, Garrett. I'm Rob Struda with our dear friend
Garrett Vogel. Hey, Garrett, let's get to the polls. Last show,
he talked about Blake Lively's biggest for here is Taylor
Swift's next heartbreaking anthem could be about her? So I
(15:41):
love the Taylor writes these songs about boyfriends, but she
has also done it about friends Katy Perry bad Blood.
I love that song, Will Taylor, what are you thinking?
Will Taylor write a song about this relationship? She probably
won't mention any names, but I will. I will expect
we will get a betrayal song of friendship trail song?
Is Blake right to be concerned? Eighty five percent said yes,
(16:05):
Taylor will do this. I think she will.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I mean, there's one thing at play which I
think Taylor will not cross the line. I don't think
she'll do it for one reason, and one reason only.
She is the godmother to Blake and Ryan's children. So
even even if there is a hint of the could
this next song be about I don't think she would
do that based off of putting her her god children
(16:27):
through that tour.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh that's a really good point, Garrett, Hey, don't forget
to vote. On today's Paul will go to a Twitter
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
You know, you always got to shoot your shot, right, Rob,
You always got to take that chance. And that's what
Andy Cone's all about. And another reason too, that Bethany
Frankel is gonna be upset. So the story is that
el King is being courted for Real Housewives, and Andy
Cohen is not going to just stop there, not just that. No,
(17:07):
he doesn't want Steadman, he wants Oprah, Gil and Oprah.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That would be great, That would be great.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, I mean, if you've been reading the news,
there's some ups and downs between CBS's early shows readings.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The President of the United States not liking Gail King.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But we can reveal that, you know, the brain trust
over at Bravo wildly offered Gail a spot.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Which housewives? Do you think she would land on New York?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think New York, she said, New Yorker. Maybe she
go to La Live with Oprah and Monteca and the Las.
This is genius cast and of course they want Gail King.
And then Oprah would be a friend of the housewives.
I don't see Oprah holding an apple at the beginning
of the show, but she might pop up on a
few episodes. Now, this sounds unbelievable, but they have pulled
off some major castle here. Carol Ratzwell is a kennidate,
(17:57):
and that's a really, really big deal. You know, Denise
Richards isn't doing so well now, but she was a
bond girl. There'll be nothing, though, as big as getting
Gail King. She might need a job. Her contracts up
with CBS in May. She might need a job. And
let's this is what somebody told me about it, Gail.
I thought it was fascinating. Had you told me, ayear ago,
that Gayl would get in a rocket and shoot up
(18:18):
to space, you'd say, forget, it ain't gonna happen. She
doesn't even like flying. But it did happen.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
So you never outside of Gail or even Oprah, you
gotta go.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Lauren Sanchez, the.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Queen, that's the queen of the moment, Queen of Amazon,
the Queen of Amazon.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Look at the jealousy of the women, knowing that she's
a quadrillion eire at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That that's right. This reminds me of when these shows
started on television, like American Idol and The X Factor.
Nobody thought they could get a list stars. Well look
look these shows. Now, they've got Kelly Clarkson, they've got
Gwen Stefani, They've got people that would never do reality
(19:07):
TV before, and it does happen. Gail could change the
future of housewives if they've got a Gail King. And
I do love this. Andy's positioning it as like I'm
such a good friend. If you need a job, I'll
help you.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Smarter because he's getting the headlines, you know what I mean,
Like he's getting he's getting he might not get Gale
or Oprah, but he's getting the head right he might
get he might get their housekeepers.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This is gonna make Bethany Frankle explode. Okay, and nicest
of the day, I think now I not his day.
Noughty naughty Blake Lively is slamming leaks, but inside as
the saying she's the Queen of leaks. So the gossip
Girl icon' has demanded sanctions after her deposition details were leaked.
It's clear or she's alleging it's just in belt and
his team. If it's not her team, the only other
(19:52):
people in the room are here, So I guess that's
a pretty good guess there. But they are saying now
people are pushing back, saying, she is the master of stories,
She's been doing it for years, and suddenly now she's
the victim. This is what the problem is with this story. Garretton,
I know that you really really support Blake and Ryan. Here,
your your team, Blake and Ryan. We've all been in
this business a long time, and we've all played a game,
(20:16):
and that's what the business is about. There's no shame
in that. The biggest celebrities know the power of a
photo op, no, the power of a leak. This is
why they pay a lot of money to publicists and
to paint yourself lily lily white. Here, It's just not
a reality of the business. And so I think, here, Blake,
just calm it down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You know this, honestly, if you we've all at least
went to high school, this feels like the quintessential high
school drama that has never gone away, Like right, I
mean we I graduated from high school over twenty plus
years ago. I reading every time I read the story.
It's almost like I go straight back to sophomore year.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And about the playground at White Crost School in Birmingham. Yes,
ah and not is the dayly same. With a moment
of rob, rub you rob, you can make process you
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But even if it's uncomfortable, even if it's really really slow.
So dream big, but act bigger because nothing changes. If
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's it's time hell love love, love Love. Hello, welcome
to the Naughty but Nice Sham your house throughout the Shooter,
and it's Wednesday. Normally on Wednesday, our dear friend Donnie
Meacham joins us. But we've we've got to have a
surprise today. Our friend Garrett is here who couldn't join
us on Monday, So we get Garrett on a Wednesday, Ella,
my friend, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I feel naughty, I feel weird, but you know what,
I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I like it. I like shaking bigs up a little bit.
So on Monday you were busy at work. So while
we do this podcast, we try to do them very
early in the morning so you can listen to it
all day long. Garrett does have a morning job, I
should point out. So on Monday you got a little
bit busy, but today you managed to squeeze us in.
So thank you very.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Much for you the naughties. Anything, okay, just anything, you
just say it. You know, you reach out to me
and say, hey, I will find a way to get.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It done for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Oh, thank you, Dolin. Can I get ten thousand dollars? No?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, Well, there's there's you gotta read the fine print
at the bottom of that.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
By the way, anything but.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I got to get back to Netflix watching Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's right. Let's jump into the show What time is it?
My Friends? And big story at the top of the show.
So Bethany Frankel is blindsided that Carol Radziwell and Andy
Cohen have had a reunion. So this is a little
bit complicated. I can help you get through those. Karen
Radziwell was on The Housewives for several seasons. She's related
to the Kennedys, so she's sort of probably the most
(01:42):
prestigious housewife they've ever had. And let me explain that
her mother in law, Lee Radzowell, was Jackie Kennedy's sister,
so that's how they are related. It's a close relation.
So she was on the show. She had a horrible
falling out with Andy. She had a horrible falling out
with Bethany Well. Now Andy and Carol are friends, but
(02:06):
Bethany is still not friends with either. This has put
her into quite a tricky position because now Bethany is
the odd one as what do you think?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
What's funny about Bethany is that I want nothing to
do with you people, nothing, nothing to do without So
have nothing to do with you, Andy, nothing to do
with anybody that has ever stepped foot on the set
of Real Housewives. And then like, you know, a few
months later, Hey, why does Ellen want to hang out
with me? You know, like, come on, get real.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah. Bethany was really aggressive about the Housewives. So when
Carol and Andy had a falling out, it was about editing.
She didn't like the way she was being portrayed on
the show. Carol's quite a control freak. I get it.
She's member of that Kennedy clan, and so she stepped away.
She's not really spoken about Housewives for seven years. When
she was done, she was done. Well, she does have
a new project coming out. I think it's a doctor
(03:00):
mentory about the Kennedys of which she is part, and
she wanted to promote it. So dig dog, there's somebody
at the door. It's Handy Coin. Suddenly they are friends again. Now. Bethany, though,
went much further. Bethany accused Andy of some really awful things.
She tried to bring down Bravo. She brought in lawyer,
she tried to get it unionized. She said there was
(03:21):
going to be a reckoning. Can you imagine them or
even a HR department, You would just imagine trying to
control these people. So Bethany really went for it. Bethany
has a habit of falling out with a lot of people.
We know about her personal relationships, her dramas with her
ex husband, they don't.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Speak and west.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We saw her fall out with Jill Zaren, one of
her best friends. We saw her fall out with Carol,
We saw her fall out with Andy. Friends of Bethany
tell me, she just can't help us up. She's going
to bite you at some points, like you might be
her best friend today. And arguably Andy Cohen invented Bethany Frankel.
She had been trying for a really long time to
be famous. I knew Bethany years before The Housewives. She
(04:07):
was a chef, a baker, She was trying to get
in the magazines. She was walking red carpet, she was
trying to date people in the business to help her.
And then The Housewives happened, and it took off for
her and all her dreams. Everything she always said she
wanted she got, but it wasn't enough, right, And so
that's when she started to get a little bit nasty. So, now,
Carol and Andy, your friends, Bethany is the one all
(04:29):
by herself.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Didn't she get mad at you for like eating your
you ate her ramen one day or something she did?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
She did get mad with me. Her best friend at
the time was a reporter at Page six, and Bethany
loved to be in the papers. It was the first
season of the House years really, and so the minute
this friend of mine who worked at Page six left,
Bethany dumped her and I went on a little bit
of a campaign, a war here to protect my friend.
(04:56):
I felt like my friend had really been un friend
like that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You're a good friend.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I'm a good friend like that. But what I've learned
from this, and what's Bethany is learning now is when
you fight other people's wars, they might end up as
really close friends and you're the one that's left out.
Joan Rivers once told me she went to war with somebody.
She was furious because somebody had in soliltitude. I think
it was Judge Judy, who was very close to Joan.
And then guess what, Judge Judy and this person made friends,
(05:21):
and Shawl was on the outside. It's very very tricky here.
Do you think so Andy's forgiven peril? It was an
ugly falling out, Carol's forgiven Andy. It's very transactional here
though they both want something from one another. Do you
think now when Bethany not if I'm sure she will
when she picks up the phone and calls Andy or
text Simmons, can we have a reunion? Can we make friends?
(05:45):
Do you think he'll do it now? Andy loves the ratings.
This would be great for ratings to have a watch
what happens with Bethany. But you can't really trust Bethany.
Once she bites you, she will probably bite you again.
What do you think here? Do you think Bethany and
Andy will ever kiss a maker? No? No, No, I
think you're probably right here. They get a point, doesn't it.
(06:05):
I try not to hold a grudg I really do,
and I try to move on. And there's very very
few people that I think I'm at war with that
they're really I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
think they're at war with me.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We all have those, but you all have.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, one of to and for me it's once I
can't trust you, I don't mind if you're a stinker,
as long as I know you're a stinker, like I don't.
I can really deal with very difficult people because I
know the truth. What always shocks me, and what I
never really like is when somebody pretends to be something
and they're not.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just and you know that too, You're like, that is
not you, that's not you.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You're a villain. Like you're the Omerosa of my life.
You are the villain of my life. You're the Bethany
frankl of my love. Just admit it, and I sort
of like it. I do have some really saucy, cheeky,
naughty friends, but I keep them in arm's length. And
I think, here, wouldnt you go after Andy personally, which
Bethany did, Wouldn't you will have to brather she tried
(07:01):
to bring down the show she was once you issued Honestly,
I feel like that once you issue a lawsuit, there's
no there's no turning back, which brings us to our
whole question. After the day Bethany Frankly is blind sided
that Carol and Andy are friends again. Are Carol and
anti trashing Bethany right now? Like that is going to
(07:23):
be such a fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
A bottle of Skinny Girl and just threw it against
the wall. You know what I mean? Like like.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The topic of conversation with Andie and Carol have drinks?
Please call me? You both have my email address, you
both have my phoneer but ay, please please, Carol, please
please please. I want to come. I won't say anything,
I'll just listen. I want to be there for that.
What do you think? Are they both trashing Beethany? Yes
or no? Go vote on our Twitter page add Naughty
Ice rab facebook page is Naughty Gossip and be sure
(07:55):
to check back to Amar Router here your results. Take
erret Love, what are you working on?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well? I mean the obvious story.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Did he upset that he's not getting out of jail
prior to the sentencing, so a federal judge denied a
fifty million dollar bail package. Our sources are telling us
to let Diddy out of jail part of his legal strategy.
So does that mean he would pay fifty million dollars
(08:22):
to get out here?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He put fifty million dollars up his bombs, so you
get the money back. But if he escapes to another
country or if he doesn't turn up for the sentence
in they keep the fifty million.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
That is insane.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But also yesterday it was revealed that his law team,
his lawyers, are trying to petition to get President Trump
to give Diddy a pardon. And you know, this whole
thing is interesting because first off, Did He's been denied
you know, nine different ways over the last like two weeks.
(08:55):
You know, and you know, you know Diddy very very
well from working with him in your previous life, So
you know, when Did he doesn't get what he wants,
he gets up upset and frustrated.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And he keeps going. He doesn't take no for an answer.
He's never taken.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Now, so he's just He's just I can only imagine
he is just pacing back and forth in his celf.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh I believe him, you know what, with rage, you know, like, yeah, oh,
I can see. I've seen him be angry. I've seen
him when he got turned down for the cover of
People magazine. He went free magazine. People, that's a magazine.
You're in jail. I think because Puffy was found innocent
of the three really serious charges. The two charges that
he was found guilty of are big charges. You could
(09:36):
go away for ten to twenty years. It's it's not nothing. However,
the three massive charges that would have put him in
jail for the rest of his life, he was found
in a cent of those, and that will be what
Puffy will take away. He'll think of that as a win.
And when Puffy's winning, if you say no to him,
he will go, buh, fifty million dollars here they said no, no, no,
we're not letting you out until the sentence in. And
(09:58):
remember when the sentence in happening. I think the minimum
he can get his two or three years, so he's
not gonna get out. We're not gonna see he's.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Gonna have at two three years. He's gonna have time served.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I think, yes, what he's beating for about a year,
but I think the minimum's about five years, so he's
already done a year, so maybe three or four year.
But you know what, I think, ultimately I'll have another
two or three years in jail. But he's not gonna
give up. That's the thing here about Puff. He does
not accept the rules. Different rules apply for him, and
I would argue the verdict as bad as it is,
(10:26):
it's a bad verdict. It could have been muss. He
will take that as a whit.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But isn't this only like stage one. He's got you know,
a dozen more civil trials Silvil trial. And here's the
other thing too, I think if, if, if he does
see the light of day outside of the jail cell
and you know, gets to walk free, I think there
will be some type of another federal case. You know,
the Feds just sitting right on the on the corner,
(10:52):
you know, waiting for him to you know, make.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Bail and then put them back in cuffs, and.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Almost like you turn, like he's not gonna see it's
not even going to make it to the street corner,
I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
My experience with really rich and powerful people is if
they get away with something, they do it again. You
don't have to be rich and famous for that to happen.
If you get away with stealing matt cookie out of
the jar, you're going to take another one.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I don't think he's even going to get a chance
to try it again because I think there's so much
more stuff that we haven't even scratched the service with.
Remember all these lawsuits, the four the five K charges
that he went up against. That was just round one
there's still you know, ten more different cases talking about
different things that we don't aren't even aware of yet.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So yeah, the hard thing about these lawsuits now is
it's about money, right, it's not about jail time civil suits.
So he could lose all his money, but try getting it.
As we've seen from Egen Carol, I think her name is,
she's owed eighty million dollars. She hasn't seen a penny.
I think Alec Jones, who denied the Sandy Hook disaster,
he was ordered to pay a billion. He's not handed
(11:55):
over any money. So I would imagine what Diddy and
his team are doing now, working very hard to hide
all his millions. But did he not out of jail yet.
I don't think it's going to happen. I think the system,
the legal system is going to hold tough on this one,
and then he will be sentenced. I think he's sentenced
in October and then maybe, oh my goodness, that's true too.
(12:20):
He could. I don't because when I was working with
did he he was very close with Trump. Trump was
at the parties, he was there, I'd see him, and
so he is close. It could happen if he can,
if he can pardon the January sixth rioters. He could
potentially pardon Diddy. I could see this happening. Oh yeah, yeah,
what are we living in? Okay? Moving along, Jimmy Fallon
(12:41):
has took a pay cut to keep his job. So
Jimmy has renewed his job through twenty twenty eight, so
he've got Jimmy for two more years. He was earning
a staggering, staggering sixteen million dollars a year. That's over
a million dollars a month. A million dollars a month.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Does he live.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Now? Is down to just ten boo hoos, it's just
slowly definitely too But he doesn't have to work. Yeah,
he doesn't have to work five days a week. Then
just doing four days and weeks we get to day off.
They're going to cut some costs on the show so
to keep these very expensive shows on there. We know
they're expensive from Stephen Colbert. They're gonna have to make
some cuts. That's called business, that's called life. Television is
(13:20):
not there, it's just entertainment. Still, I know, I know this.
It's about money. The reason I'm successful is I'm not
terribly talented, but I'm cheap. I'm a good price. I'm
a fair price.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Some of my friends were a fair price.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We're a fair price. Zero, we're a very fair price.
Would they'll never We produce it, we edit it, we
do all the work. Yes, And you gotta know your worth.
I know, mind it ate a lot, and Jimmy Fallon's
worth was really inflated. I think he'll be fine at
ten million. But it's interesting, isn't it. Wouldt you earn
megabooks ten million, that is still megabooks, But once you
(13:56):
earn the megabooks garret, it's difficult. Whatever you earn to
take a pay cut, it's difficut.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, I think it is seeing the landscape.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You know, it kind of definitely played a part in
Jimmy's mind, but NBC also sees it as he's not
as political as Colbert does. You know, lean a little
that way from time to time. But the majority of
it is just skits and shows. And Jimmy was also
producing game shows for NBC two, so there's a whole
(14:26):
more package to it than just you know, is he
going left?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Is he going right? On TV?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But he's providing more for NBC at again a very
I guess, yeah, yeah, cost a fishing price.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You're really smart about that. Let's be honest. Who Lord Michael,
who is the creator and EP of Saturday Night Live.
He is Jimmy's protector there So this getting renewed, I'm told,
is about Lord Michaels. They don't want to mess with Lorne.
They owe him s and l fifty years of it.
So I think the fact every renewed this to twenty
twenty eight, that tells me a little signal here that
(14:58):
SNL will be fine too for couple more years. They're
not gonna mess with Lawn Michaels. It's amazing. We see
Jimmy as a big star, and what we forget is
he is a big star, but the real powers behind
the scenes, it always is. It's not the person on TV,
it's the executives upstairs. Lawn Michael is Jimmy's savior, protector,
and NBC are not gonna mess with him. So we've
(15:20):
got Jimmy for a few more years. Okay, We're going
to take a quick break and we will be right back.
Welcome back to the Not even Nice Show. It's flying
by today, Garrett. I'm Rob Struda with our dear friend
Garrett Vogel. Hey, Garrett, let's get to the polls. Last show,
he talked about Blake Lively's biggest for here is Taylor
Swift's next heartbreaking anthem could be about her? So I
(15:41):
love the Taylor writes these songs about boyfriends, but she
has also done it about friends Katy Perry bad Blood.
I love that song, Will Taylor, what are you thinking?
Will Taylor write a song about this relationship? She probably
won't mention any names, but I will. I will expect
we will get a betrayal song of friendship trail song?
Is Blake right to be concerned? Eighty five percent said yes,
(16:05):
Taylor will do this. I think she will.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I mean, there's one thing at play which I
think Taylor will not cross the line. I don't think
she'll do it for one reason, and one reason only.
She is the godmother to Blake and Ryan's children. So
even even if there is a hint of the could
this next song be about I don't think she would
do that based off of putting her her god children
(16:27):
through that tour.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh that's a really good point, Garrett, Hey, don't forget
to vote. On today's Paul will go to a Twitter
page at n Nice Rob at Facebook page Naughty Girls
am sure to chasm a router. Here your results, and
now it's time for nicest and slightly delusional nicest of
the day.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You know, you always got to shoot your shot, right, Rob,
You always got to take that chance. And that's what
Andy Cone's all about. And another reason too, that Bethany
Frankel is gonna be upset. So the story is that
el King is being courted for Real Housewives, and Andy
Cohen is not going to just stop there, not just that. No,
(17:07):
he doesn't want Steadman, he wants Oprah, Gil and Oprah.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That would be great, That would be great.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You know, I mean, if you've been reading the news,
there's some ups and downs between CBS's early shows readings.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The President of the United States not liking Gail King.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But we can reveal that, you know, the brain trust
over at Bravo wildly offered Gail a spot.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Which housewives? Do you think she would land on New York?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think New York, she said, New Yorker. Maybe she
go to La Live with Oprah and Monteca and the Las.
This is genius cast and of course they want Gail King.
And then Oprah would be a friend of the housewives.
I don't see Oprah holding an apple at the beginning
of the show, but she might pop up on a
few episodes. Now, this sounds unbelievable, but they have pulled
off some major castle here. Carol Ratzwell is a kennidate,
(17:57):
and that's a really, really big deal. You know, Denise
Richards isn't doing so well now, but she was a
bond girl. There'll be nothing, though, as big as getting
Gail King. She might need a job. Her contracts up
with CBS in May. She might need a job. And
let's this is what somebody told me about it, Gail.
I thought it was fascinating. Had you told me, ayear ago,
that Gayl would get in a rocket and shoot up
(18:18):
to space, you'd say, forget, it ain't gonna happen. She
doesn't even like flying. But it did happen.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
So you never outside of Gail or even Oprah, you
gotta go.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Lauren Sanchez, the.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Queen, that's the queen of the moment, Queen of Amazon,
the Queen of Amazon.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Look at the jealousy of the women, knowing that she's
a quadrillion eire at that point.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That that's right. This reminds me of when these shows
started on television, like American Idol and The X Factor.
Nobody thought they could get a list stars. Well look
look these shows. Now, they've got Kelly Clarkson, they've got
Gwen Stefani, They've got people that would never do reality
(19:07):
TV before, and it does happen. Gail could change the
future of housewives if they've got a Gail King. And
I do love this. Andy's positioning it as like I'm
such a good friend. If you need a job, I'll
help you.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Smarter because he's getting the headlines, you know what I mean,
Like he's getting he's getting he might not get Gale
or Oprah, but he's getting the head right he might
get he might get their housekeepers.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This is gonna make Bethany Frankle explode. Okay, and nicest
of the day, I think now I not his day.
Noughty naughty Blake Lively is slamming leaks, but inside as
the saying she's the Queen of leaks. So the gossip
Girl icon' has demanded sanctions after her deposition details were leaked.
It's clear or she's alleging it's just in belt and
his team. If it's not her team, the only other
(19:52):
people in the room are here, So I guess that's
a pretty good guess there. But they are saying now
people are pushing back, saying, she is the master of stories,
She's been doing it for years, and suddenly now she's
the victim. This is what the problem is with this story. Garretton,
I know that you really really support Blake and Ryan. Here,
your your team, Blake and Ryan. We've all been in
this business a long time, and we've all played a game,
(20:16):
and that's what the business is about. There's no shame
in that. The biggest celebrities know the power of a
photo op, no, the power of a leak. This is
why they pay a lot of money to publicists and
to paint yourself lily lily white. Here, It's just not
a reality of the business. And so I think, here, Blake,
just calm it down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You know this, honestly, if you we've all at least
went to high school, this feels like the quintessential high
school drama that has never gone away, Like right, I
mean we I graduated from high school over twenty plus
years ago. I reading every time I read the story.
It's almost like I go straight back to sophomore year.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And about the playground at White Crost School in Birmingham. Yes,
ah and not is the dayly same. With a moment
of rob, rub you rob, you can make process you
can't make You can't make progress without taking action, wishing
for it. It's not enough visualizing it sounds great, not
enough talking about it, not enough. You can't hope to
(21:20):
grow in areas that you've taken No action in change
requires movement, results require effort, and progress requires you showing up.
But even if it's uncomfortable, even if it's really really slow.
So dream big, but act bigger because nothing changes. If
(21:42):
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