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October 9, 2025 20 mins

Hilaria Baldwin’s graceful Dancing with the Stars exit turned chaotic once the cameras stopped rolling — with insiders calling it “a total meltdown.” Meanwhile, friends of George Clooney say the actor’s recent confession about past drug use barely scratches the surface of his wilder youth. And in a stunning revelation from TV history, Sex and the City insiders are confirming long-rumored on-set feuds — with Kristin Davis privately apologizing to Bridget Moynahan as decades-old tensions resurface.

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Schedule by Shooters. It's time nice sprint Lo Lo Lo Lollo.
Welcome to the naughty but nice sham your house from Shooter.
It's Thursday, and unfortunately, because of a few technical issues
this morning, we can't get Mark on the line. But
don't worry, noughties, We've got a ton of gossip to

(00:28):
get to. What time is it, my friends? It is
tea time big story at the top of the show.
I love this story. So Hilaria Baldwin. Hillary Baldwin had
a meltdown after getting eliminated from Dancing with the Stars,
and she's blaming everyone but herself. So behind the scenes
at Dancing with the Stars, Hilaria Hillary Baldwin's graceful goodbye

(00:52):
turned into a full on meltdown once the cameras stopped rolling.
Multiple sources tell me that the forty one year old
reality hopeful completely lost it when she was voted off
during Disney Nights, blaming everyone from her husband to producers
to everybody in between. Sauces say quote she was huming. Hilaria,

(01:17):
Hillary was convinced that she was gonna make the finals.
That's bold and she honestly thought she could win. However,
when her name got called, she was stunned and then
very very angry inside. Has add that she was lashing
out backstage, accusing the show of setting her up to fail.
She's blaming producers for giving her the quote wrong song.

(01:40):
Now I must admit her song wasn't that great. There's
a lot better Disney songs out there, and she is
a good dancer. But what's going on here is she
has no fan base. People don't know who she is.
She's a celebrity chef sort of, but I don't think
she's ever had her own show on the Food Network.
She's no Bobby Flay, let's put it like that. She's

(02:03):
no Rachel Ray, Let's put it like that. So she's
sort of like an Instagram celebrity. She has I think
a million followers on the Instagram and she's always posting
yoga videos or video with her children. All great, but
she's also too got this reputation of being very, very difficult.
I don't think people really like her. And she said

(02:24):
that she has been mischaracterized, misjudged, and she did the
show she did Dancing with the Stars to show a
different side of herself. Well, I don't think she did
a very good job of that. Let me tell you
a little secret. Laughtise dancing with the stars. It's not
a dance show. No no, no, no no, it's a
popularity competition. And that's why it's so hurtful when you

(02:47):
get kicked off. Because Hilaria is a pretty good dancer.
She used to be a dancer, but she broke her
hip terrible and so she had to get back on
the dance floor. Did a great job. Is very very elegant.
I thought she danced beautifully. It's off the dance floor
where all the problems start because she's quite a difficult
person and a little bit entitled. Let's be honest. The

(03:10):
only reason we know her, the only reason we're talking
about her is she married Alec Baldwin. A few days ago.
She did an interview saying she's not an EPO wife,
No no, no. She has built her own fanbase and
built her own followers are on social media. Sort of true,
but not really. We know, I've never heard of her
until she married Alec Baldwin. And then she did a

(03:32):
ton of videos with Alec in them, some of them
quite cringey, but they got a lot of attention. And
then this whole Spanish thing where she made up that
she's from Spain, where she's actually from Boston. Her name
is not even Hilaria, it's Hillary. People that went to
school with her in Boston. In Boston, Well, like she
wasn't Spanish, she's Hillary from Boston. Remember when she was

(03:55):
on the Today Show doing a cookie demonstration, which, let's
be honest, she got because she married to Alec Baldwin
and they like Alec at NBC because of thirty ranks.
So she got on the Today Show and she couldn't
remember the English wed for cukombar? What is a gukombar?
Remember that video? It was so so funny. Well, the

(04:16):
accent's back. I saw a few interviews she did on
Dancing with the Stars after the show, and she's Spanish again.
You know what, Hilary, Hilaria. You can be whoever you want,
but you can't expect people to really like you if
you're not authentic. When I figured out who I am,
who's Rob Shooter? When I got comfortable in my own skinner,

(04:38):
that's when success came. You never ever become successful being
a phony blooney, And so I think that's what that's
what the problem here is with Hilario, and the fact
that she thought she was going to win only goes
to show you how delusional she is. She actually believes
her own hype. It's nice to believing yourself. You should

(05:00):
leaving yourself, but you should also be honest with yourself.
I know my strengths and know my weaknesses. I know
I'm not from Spain. I know I know who I am,
and that's why I do well, thank you very much,
is that I'm not for everybody. I yet, I'm not
for everybody, but I'm for me. Be yourself, Hillary, Hilaria,
decide who you're going to be, but don't be a

(05:20):
phony blooney because you'll never ever get a fan base
from that. And I think you should lead into the
fact too that you are an eper wife. We know
you because you married a very very famous man. Had
you married anybody else, have you had you married my brother,
then we probably wouldn't be talking about you on Dancing
with the Stars and so leading to it. I have

(05:41):
such respect for nepo babies, for children of celebrities who
are like duh. It would be silly to not say
my mum and dad have given me enormous advantage in
show business. In the business, Hilaria won't do that. She
wants to pretend, and it is pretending that she's standing
her own two feet, that she's a star because of

(06:03):
who she is at hard work and dedication. I'm sure
she does work hard. However, we know you because of
your last name. It is a brutal shock, isn't it.
It is such a wake up call. Your ego is
shattered when the truth comes in, when you think you
were much more popular that really where you are. It's

(06:26):
an awful shock. That's why doing this show is not
for the faint of heart. Each week it is a
popularity contest. The person that goes through hopefully can dance
a little bit. She was a good dancer. That's what
makes it worse too. There's people on the show who
are terrible, terrible dance. As I'm talking about you, I'm director.
But he's adorable. He's absolutely adorable. I want him to

(06:48):
keep going in the competition because I enjoy watching him.
I enjoy sitting on my couch in my pajamas, eating
my screen and watching him. He brings a smile to
my face. Hilaria did not it'd be a bit uncomfortable,
and during her interview after her dance, she was always
so entitled and so full of herself and so so phony.

(07:09):
That's what ultimately did her in, which brings us to
our pole question of the day. Hilaria Baldwin has been
kicked off Dancing with the Stars and she's not happy
about it. She's blaming her body but herself. Does she
have only herself to blame? I think I know the answer.
I think this could be a landslide today. Hey, go
votes on our Twitter page add naughty nice Rob. Our

(07:30):
facebook page is naughty gussib. I'm sure to check back
tomorrow to hear your results. Moving along, Sex in the City,
it was a hotbed of toxic behavior. So Kristen Davis
has apologized to Bridget moynihan. Bridget played mister biggs first
wife on the show. Well now she's on Kristen Davis's

(07:50):
podcast called Are You a Charlotte? That's a funny name
for a podcast. I like that. And she said to her,
I wasn't that nice to you? And I feel really
bad about it, and Bridget let her off the hawk.
She said, it's okay, now, don't worry I don't say
that if somebody wasn't very nice to me and they
say that, I'm like, you weren't and it was really hurtful,
and so I understand Bridget doesn't want to cause trouble here. However,

(08:12):
what this has done has opened up the whole conversation
about sex in the City. The show that was meant
to be about friendship relationships. It's not about sex. It
was about friendships. It was about different relationships you have romantically,
platonic with friends, with lovers, and ultimately, and this is
the iron a, they weren't very nice to one another.

(08:35):
Now we all know about Kim Cattrell and Sarah Jessica Parker.
We all know that that was really really ugly. All
the other ladies on the show had trouble too. Now
we're finding out that Kristen Davis was really rude to
Bridget Moyna Ham. We're also finding out that Cynthia Nixon
was very, very tough to the showrunners, the writers. She
wanted Miranda's character to go in a different way. It
just wasn't a very pleasant, pleasant experience. We heard rumors

(08:58):
at the time there was a gossip, but everybody was rumors,
lots of talk about the show being toxic, but it
was Kim Catroll that really blew the lid off this
when she told the truth about how Sarah made her feel.
That Sarah was not a friend. It was a work relationship,
and there's nothing wrong with that. I have a lot
of jobs. I've had many, many jobs where I wasn't

(09:18):
friends with the people I worked with. But we had
a good work relationship. We turned up, we got paid,
we did the job, we went home. You don't have
to be best friends. I'm lucky enough that I've met
some of the best friends of my life through work,
and I'm really grateful for that. But not everybody, Not
everybody are going to become great close friends. Doesn't happen.
But you don't need to be cruel. You don't need

(09:40):
to be toxic, you don't need to be nasty. And
that's what Sex and the City was. And if I
can just tie this back for a minute to Hilaria
Hillary Baldwin, it's been inauthentic. That's what drives me crazy.
Had Sarah said, you know, we weren't that close. I
was the boss and I made a lot of money,
and I enjoyed the work, but we didn't actually become

(10:02):
close friends. I'd have so much more respect for her.
The cast of Friends, the TV show, they did that too,
didn't they. They used to pretend they were really close,
and they weren't. They worked together, they liked each other.
They got together for a reunion, and they were paid
a million dollars each. But if it wasn't for that
reunion and all that money, they did not go for
dinner together. Yes, Jennifer and Courtney know each other, but
the boys sort of did their own thing. There were

(10:24):
never one big group of six. It just wasn't the
way that they flowed. They just didn't do it like that.
And that's perfectly fine. The problem with Sex and the
City is that Sarah, it is Sarah Jessica here always
wants to put forward this really inauthentic storyline, this narrative

(10:45):
that they are best friends, that they're just a family.
Not true. That place, it was not a nice place
to work, Okay, talking about not telling the whole truth.
George Clooney, who I Love. George Clooney is on the
cover of Squire talking about how many drugs he did
in the past, So he's omitting that he did use drugs,
but he never went off off the edge there. However,

(11:08):
sources are telling me back in the eighties he wasn't
just dabbling. He was pretty wild. So Hollywood has a
very different story about George. Now he's got his act together.
He is a great guy, a great business man, a
great father, a great husband, a great charity worker, philanthroplist,
he's just a really good guy. Book. Back in the eighties,
he was pretty wild on the Sunset Strip, going to

(11:30):
parties and audition in. Lots and lots of stuff going
on back then, and I'm not even sure exists now,
but he was a man of his time in the eighties,
lots of drugs, lots of rock and roll. Well, now
he's telling a much more sanitized story about what really happened.
We do this statement when we look back, we see
things through our own eyes, and sometimes we don't want

(11:51):
to quite remember what they were really like. Do you
wear rose colored glasses? I think that's the expression when
you look back and you think, ah, it was always
better in the eighties or the nineties, or some people
go back to the fifties or the sixties. I don't
I love them. I had a great time. I'm happy
where I am now, and we made a lot of progress.
We really really have, So I don't rememd this that much.

(12:14):
George Cleary, this interview is delicious, but wish I wish
you had told the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Once again, people say he's not lion, this isn't reinventing himself,
but it's not exactly telling the whole truth. Okay, Jennifer Lopez,
don't be fooled. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez had a
reunion on the red carpet, but it's all business. It

(12:36):
is not love. They are not back together, so don't
let the smiles fool you. Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck's
red carpet chemistry is pure Hollywood pr. So, despite the
gushing headlines over their friendly reunion at the New York
premiere of Kiss of a Spider Woman, sources tell me
the exes a quote strictly professional and they barely talk

(12:58):
off camera. They I don't really like each other, not really.
They were married, it was ugly. They have baggage, they
have feelings. They still have not totally processed this, and
so they're sort of talking. But this is really about
promoting the movie nothing more. As I told you on
yesterday's pod that cast all the day before the reunion
on the red carpet, it was staged. These red carpets

(13:21):
are photo ops. That's all are red carpet It's it's
a photo op. It's a chance to get in front
of the world's press. All the press is. They're Extra
Access Hollywood Entertainment tonight. All the TV crews are there.
And so for the fact that they bumped into each
other on the red carpet by accident just in front
of the Access Hollywood camrule, that is not a surprise.

(13:41):
That is a pr setup and it's a good one.
That's what red carpets are for. I tip my hat
to the publicist for this movie because we're all talking
about this reunion and the movie. So it's great. Great
for the movie. Insiders tell me, I know this business
very very well. And the early tracking numbers to Kiss
of a Spider Woman are dreadful. I'm hearing this could

(14:02):
be an absolute box office disaster. Now I hear the
movie is good. If you want to see it, try
and see it this weekend because it might not be
around next weekend. In fact, the numbers at the moment
are tracking, and they're tracking so so poorly that we
are talking cats territory. Remember cats, Oh meow. Remember that movie?

(14:26):
It was not good. It was not good, and it
came and went in a minute. Taylor Swift was in it,
and it's still still didn't do very very well. This
Kiss of a Spider Woman, even with all Ben and
Jen's pr stunts, all the attention they get in it's
still not tracking very very well. So once again, if
you do want to see it, I recommend you go

(14:46):
this weekend because they might not they might not be
a next one. Okay, we're going to take a quick
break and we will be right back. Welcome back to
the naughty butt nice show on your homes from Shooter.
Mark's off today because the technical issues. We actually did
a show this morning, but we couldn't figure out how
to make it all work. So we tape our own

(15:07):
audios and then we merge them together, and there was
a few technical issues. So after that became obvious that
it wasn't going to work, I jumped back on the
mic and I'm doing a solo show, which I'm happy, happy,
to do. I Love talking with you, Noughty's I'm not
missing a single day. Let's get to the polls dot dot, sir.
Last show it to bet Taylor Swift, being accused of
cheating to break sale records. She discounted her new CD

(15:33):
to four ninety nine. So get this Adele. Of all
the people, Adele holds the record for the most album
sold in its debut week. So her album twenty five
sold over three million copies in its very first week.
You would think Thriller on Michael Jackson's other records Bad
or maybe Britney Spears in the nineties or in Sync

(15:53):
or the Backstreet Boys would hold the record. They do
not the number one selling album in its first week,
not total sales, but the last week that goes to Adele. Well,
Taylor wants to beat that record. She was selling about
two point seven million, So how did she push it up?
How is she going to get that two point seven
to three three point two three point four to beat Adell?

(16:14):
She dropped the price really really clever. Well, I'm told
it has worked. My insiders tell me, and I know
the music business because of my husband Bruce, who has
a Grammy. So he's very much in the music business.
I'm told it's worked and Taylor might sell four million copies.
Do you think it's cheating? Yes or no? Back to

(16:36):
the pole question or fifty six percent said yes it's cheating,
So it's sort of nearly fifty to fifteen. Maybe not
quite there. I don't know. I don't think it's cheating.
I think it's really really smart. And we're going to
see this a lot more now. We're going to see
artists do this. It's simple supply and demand. If the
price is lower, more people will buy it. And so

(16:56):
Taylor Swift. It's a great album. I paid twenty bucks
to download the whole thing on the day it came out.
If you haven't downloaded it yet, you can get it
for four ninety nine on ioosing tunes. And it's also
going to give Taylor the biggest selling album in the
first week ever. I'm told it's going to do almost
four million. That's a lot of albums. Okay, don't forget
to vote on today's pool. Go to a Twitter page

(17:18):
and really nice rom Facebook pages. Nordy doesn't. I'm sure
to check out tomorrow to hear your results are now.
Oh it's down for our nicest of the day. Oh,
and nicest of the day. It's Travis Kelsey who was
reacting to Taylor's very raunchy song would saying, I love
that girl. So he on his podcast I love this
podcast he does it with this his brother, His brother

(17:38):
Jason teased him saying, what great soundtrack, and they were
giggling away and he said, do you feel cocky winkrink
about it? Travis giggled and said, any song that references
me is very dot dot dot. I love that girl.
So there are very graphic lyrics here, but they're very flattering.
She compares him to a redwood tree, which is a

(18:01):
very large, very large tree. It is quite a shocking
song from Taylor Swift for it's all done tongue in cheek.
I love a double on tondre, so there's nothing actually
filthy about it. If you don't want it to be filthy,
it's a song about trees. If you do want it
to be filthy, let me tell you there is plenty
there and nicest after the day, and now I naughty
is the day not a naughty naughty The nfl are

(18:21):
furious with jay Z, who never actually gave Taylor Swift
a formal offer to perform at the halftime show at
the Super Bowl. So bad Bunny's doing it. He got
the offer, he said, yes. There were early conversations with Taylor,
but no official offer was ever made. In the NFL
are confussed by this and a little bit angry by
this because they thought that Taylor Swift was in the running,

(18:43):
but she never was because she never ever got an offer. Shady, shady,
shady and naughtiest of the day. Let's end with a
moment a rob you gotta rob Rob. Today's a very
personal one. My father died yesterday, Douglas Brian Tutor, eighty
eight years old, really a good good man. It's been
a difficult twenty four hours and some people are asking

(19:06):
why am I doing the show? And I want as much.
I love my life and I want it to be
as normal as possible, so doing the show today has
really really helped me. I didn't want to talk about
it until the end of the show in case I
get upset. But what I want to remember is all
the good times. I want to remember, all the laughs.
I want to remember all the love. It was not
easy having me as a son a young gay kid

(19:27):
in a working class environment in Birmingham, England, and on
top of that my disability, the fact that I've got
a broken arm. So he had this gay kid with
a broken arm, and he knew nothing about my world.
He just didn't know it and neither should he. It
was not his world. But he tried, He really tried.
He tried to listen to songs, to musicals. He took
me to dance class, he took me to band practice.

(19:50):
He loved me unconditionally, and that was really, really difficult.
The environment that my dad grew up in was not
kind to gay people, and my dad had to change.
I didn't have to change. Let me let me rephrase that.
My dad decided. My dad shows to change the way
he viewed the world so that world could include me.

(20:11):
And I will always add I'm but I will always
always be grateful. I love you. Hey, That is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening to the
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of the celebrities that we were talking about, and he
didn't care. He just wanted to hear his son. It's
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