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September 18, 2025 20 mins

Jay-Z and Beyoncé are livid after New York officials struck down their billion-dollar Times Square casino plan — so furious, in fact, they’re threatening to leave the city altogether. Meanwhile, Carole Radziwill just landed what insiders are calling the ultimate Housewives revenge: a Harry Styles encounter that has Bethenny Frankel fuming with jealousy. And in London, Taylor Swift is proving she calls the shots — choosing Graham Norton for a rare talk show appearance while snubbing Bravo kingpin Andy Cohen.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Scalable by Sue. It's time. Hello Lo and Low and Low. Hello,
Welcome to the naughty but nice sham your house through
up shooter. It's Thursday. Normally our dear friend Mark Lupo
joins us, but he's not with us today. Don't worry,
no ease. He'll be back next week. And we've got
a turn of garssip news to get to. You're the

(00:28):
co host today. Let's jump right in. What time is it,
my friends? It is tea time. A big story at
the top of the show. So jay Z and Beyonce
are livid over their casino defeat, threatening to leave New
York City altogether. Let me explain. Jay Z and Beyonce
are furious after New York officials struck down their billion

(00:52):
dollar Time Square casino dream, and insiders are telling me
that the couple is so angry they are threatening to
pack up and leave the city all together. Out sources
say they feel betrayed. Quote j put his name, his brand,
his reputation on the line to bring the project to

(01:14):
Times Square. Beyonce sports supported him every step of the way.
To see it voted down feels like a slap in
the face, not just to them, but to everything they've
done for New York City, the state's Community Advisory Board,
the government, the local officials. They rejected the proposal in

(01:35):
a four to two vote. It's amazing to me that
six people get to decide this, four or five six people.
Four said no, two said yes. They sided with the
Broadway theater owners and the restaurants who did not want
the casino there. Now the Cantas, who have long been
considered the first family of entertainment. After all, they are

(01:58):
producing the superl They believe the politics played a bigger
role here than community kernncerns. Jay Z and Beyonce don't
need New York needs them. I'm not sure that's quite true,
but that's what insiders are saying. They brought the city
global prestige, tourism and lots of money, and now they're
asking themselves, why stay where we're not wanted. Well, I

(02:21):
think New York will be fine without jay Z and Beyonce. Yes,
they are an international couple. They are exciting. I've bumped
into jay Z walking around New York. It's exciting. Beyonce
is Beyonce. You know, there's no other way to say it.
Beyonce is Beyonce. However, New York survived before them, it
will survive after them. This is so interesting. A couple

(02:41):
of things here. Jay really wanted to do this, and
let's be clear, yes he wanted to help New York.
He loves New York, but he is a businessman. He
wanted to do it for the money. It was gonna
make him unfathomably Richie already is a billionaire. How much
money to they really really want? So when business people

(03:03):
tell you they are doing something for you, it's just
for you. I'm going to sing songs tonight at Madison
Square Garden just for you, for my audience. We've heard
it a million times. No, Madonna, you're doing it for
the money. I love the Barbra streisand is so honest
about it. She said she only does shows if they
pay her a lot of money, and so she's not
interested in performing anymore. She's just totally honest that it's transactional.

(03:26):
A lot of pop stars pretend I'm going to do
it for the fans, for my public out there, they
need me, rubbish, we do not. You need the money,
And so jay Z and Piance maybe don't need the money.
They've got a lot, but rich people always want more.
So this was about money, and another inside had told
me the reason they hurts so much is not that

(03:49):
New York City is missing out on the cultural honor
of a casino, but rather they are not used to
being told no. Nobody tails Beyonce and jay Z know well.
These six local community board leaders have said no. They've
said no to Beyonce and jay Z. They can't quite

(04:11):
understand it. They want to go above their heads. If
they don't get a reservation in a restaurant or whatever
they want, they call the owner and then everything is fixed.
There is no one to call here New York City.
Our government is run by local officials who we elect. Now,
this casino is concerning has a lot of debate. Even

(04:31):
within the Shooter Sussman household, there is a disagreement. Some
are for it, some are against it. And so I
think it's a good debate to have. Do we want
a casino in New York It is the entertainment capital
of the world. I think it would be a good idea. Personally,
I love casinos. I love going to Vegas, but I
want it to be in the right spot. Would this

(04:53):
steal tourists away from Broadway. Broadway suffering at the moment.
PRISM is down double digits, so a lot of tourists
did not want to come to America anymore. So Broadway
is really really suffering. If we add a casino to
Times Square, that's more competition, not as many people. That's tricky,
but that's like saying if we open another Broadway show,
we shouldn't do that because that's going to take an

(05:15):
audience away from the shows that are already running. Lots
of diffiant arguments here that we're not going to get
into really political arguments, which is not our show at all.
But celebrity is our show. And so I am fascinated
to know what do you think about Beyonce and jay Z,
which brings us to our whole question of the day.
Jay Z and Beyonce are livid over their casino defeat

(05:39):
in New York. Does the city need jay Z and
Beyonce more than Beyonce needs jay Z and the city?
I think we know the answer. Come on, everybody, Okay,
go vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice rob
Our facebook page is not at your sip, and be
sure to check back to Marama to hear your results. Okay,

(06:00):
Moving along. Carol Radziwell, who was one of the housewives
of New York City, also married into the Kennedy family.
Lee Radzowell's son married Carol, so she's not in the
Kennedy clan by birth, by blood, she married into it.
Lee Radzowell is Jackie Oh's sister, So Jackie married JFK,

(06:22):
moved into the White House. Was the first Lady her sister.
Her sister, Lei Radzowell, lived in New York was a
fabulous socialite, very lamorous, and certainly benefited on the fact
that her sister was now the first Lady Well. She
had a son that soon married Carol, and now Carol
is on reality TV. My godness, how far can we fall? Well,

(06:46):
she was on reality TV, she was a real housewife
no longer. But because of her Radzowell Kennedy connections, Carol
has an extraordinary life. She has access to people that
the other housewives just don't have, and one of them
is Harry's styles or the pop star. Let me explain. So,
Carol Ratzawell has just scored the ultimate Real housewife revenge Revenge,

(07:09):
and Bethany Frankel is fuming inside has tell me that
Bethany nearly choked on her skinny girl Margarita when photos
of the former friend me. Bethan, Me and Carol started
as friends on the show. But as everybody knows with Bethany,
she always falls out with everybody. She's always going to
bite a friend, a colleague. She's just can't help us up.

(07:29):
So they had a horrible falling out. And then skip
forward a few years and what is Carol up to.
She's arm in arm with Harry's styles at a wedding.
It was not their wedding, but they were at a
wedding together. They ended up arm in arm and the
picture went viral. Sauces tell me Bethany lives for the spotlight.
I think Bethany would tell us that. And suddenly the
whole world is talking about her nemesis, Carol. It kills her.

(07:53):
Carol goes to Paris, stumbles into a fairy tale moment
with one of the biggest pop stars on the planet,
and then Bethany is stuck screaming on TikTok about reality TV.
This makes me love that is so much competition between
these ladies. The reason this story is funny is because
it's just so silly. It's just so petty. It's just

(08:13):
so silly. But that's what The Housewives is all about. It.
It's escapism, it's nonsense. It's rich people problems. They're all
gonna be just fired here. Bethany sold her company for
a fortune. Carol Razwell is a Kennedy. She married into
the Kennedy family. They're all fine. So what is interesting, though,
is that despite Bethany's fame and money, she's never really

(08:36):
been able to buy her way or claw her way
into the A List. She was friends with Andy Cohen
for a while. Andy has really A list friends Sarah,
Jessica Parker. He also has Kelly Ripper. He knows a
lot of movie stars. Anderson Cooper is his friend, and
so he does know these people. Bethany almost got into
that group. But then what did she do? Oh foolish Bethany.

(08:59):
And so once again Bethany bit the hand that fed her.
You had to be careful around better, Bethany. Don't trust her.
She's gonna bite you aventably. Have you become Bethany's friend.
It's not gonna last. So Andy cut Bethany out of
that A List group and since then, her contacts, if
you look at the people she hangs with, not quite
as great. And here we have Carol, Carol Radswell, who's

(09:22):
difficult too. She's not the easiest person in the world.
Now we have Carol hanging out with Harry Styles and
she is jealous. Has this happened to you? Who's the
popular person in your group? And does everyone want to
be their friend? Does everybody want to hang out with them?
Here it's Harry Styles and Carol has got him. Okay.
Moving along. Jordan Hudson, you know her. She's Bill Bellacheck's girlfriend.

(09:46):
While she was nearly on Dancing with the Stars, but
in the eleventh hour it crumbled because of her shocking demands.
So Jordan is only twenty four years old, she's a
former Sheer leader. She's now dating Bill. But she he
is a very confident person and she was not going
to do the show unless she was guaranteed a top

(10:07):
three finish. So she wanted to win a cup, second,
or come third or wilse She wasn't doing it. She
flat out wanted a promise that she would make the final.
Sources tell me, now, one in the show's history has
ever asked for that it's a competition show, and producers
couldn't believe it. Now the Daily Mail are also reporting
that she wanted to control who she picked us her partner.

(10:29):
She wanted to pick her pro partner. She wanted to
control the rehearsal schedule. She also wanted to control how
much we talked about her romance is a very controversial
romance on the show, and they said no, no, no.
But the final straw that broke the camel's back was
she wanted to be top three. Well don't we all?

(10:49):
If you do that show, you want to win. However,
that's about your fan base, nothing to do with producers.
This is really really interesting, isn't it. Celebrities who do
this show, What do you do if you don't have
a fan base. So Jordan is very very popular on
the internet for really things that she has said or

(11:11):
not so kind comments made by people. She's a tabloid
stone because she's dating a much much older gentleman and
so their age difference, and then how controlling she is
and she looks like she's the boss in this relationship.
Remember that big interview they did on CBS where she
took over the interview. Well, there's a lot of buzz
around her, but I don't think she necessarily has her

(11:33):
fan base. She's that controversial figure. She's the Hilaria Baldwin
spot controversial Marrit someone famous, somebody older, is very opinionated.
Would have been terrific reality TV. I'm not sure if
she can dance, but she does not have a fan base,
and she's smart enough to know that she would have
been voted off I think the first week, and so

(11:55):
she said, I'll do the show, but I want these guarantees.
The show said thanks, no, thanks. Probably the best decision. Okay,
Moving along, Taylor Swift has snubbed Andy Cohen and picked
to doo one rare TV appearance with his nemesis. So
Taylor Swift is playing favorites and Andy Cohen did not
make bur cut. Instead, it was Graham Northon, Who's Norton, Sorry,

(12:17):
Graham Norton, who is the British person of Andy Cohen.
He has a very popular show in the UK, The
Graham Norton Show. He gets the biggest celebrities on this
show because he's sort of naughty but nice. He really is.
He's cheeky, he's fully Andy could just be naughty and
it could be a little bit mean. So what's what
happens live? If you ask me, where did Andy steel

(12:38):
the idea from, it's Graham Norton. Norton. I've got to
get that right. Graham Norton for our British listeners, going,
I get it right. I like him. I've met him
a few times and he's a really nice guy who
has a house here in New York, but he's based
out of London. So Taylor is going to go on
his show. People cannot believe that she's doing this. She's
going to sit down with him on October third, the

(13:00):
same day that her album drops, The Life of a
show Girl. Insiders are saying, because this is her only interview,
it is very very telling that she's doing it on
a British TV show. Maybe she's more worried about the
album in the UK than she is in America. I
don't think she has to worry about this album anywhere.
But every single booker of every single show is trying

(13:24):
to get Taylor Swift and co and everybody else. Robin
robertson GMA Savannah. They all want Taylor Swift, who got hurt?
So telling Graham Norton. Now I hit the phones and
insiders tell me there is a strategy there. Of course
there is. Taylor Swift is so smart. She doesn't do
anything by chance, but she just likes him. She thinks
he's campy and funny and cheeky. And even though he

(13:46):
will ask some naughty, probing questions about her relationship that
might make up blush a little bit, he doesn't go
too far and is used to interviewing the housewives who
are on his payroll. He can ask him anything and
they have to answer because he's paying them. They're all
scared of him because he's an air boss. Imagine sitting
down with somebody who had that much more power than you,

(14:10):
You're out of control. Well, Graham's not that guy. And
so Andy learned from the housewives to be really, really,
really naughty. And when it comes to other celebrities who
are not on his pay roll, Taylor Swift does not
need Andy Cohen. He finds it difficult sometimes to pull
it back. And so I think Graham is an excellent,
excellent idea. Even though we probably won't watch the show,
the clips will be online, they'll be on social media,

(14:32):
so we'll all get to see Taylor with Graham. Oh,
I can't wait. This album is going to be something
only a few more weeks and it is going to
be Taylor Swift's world. Okay, we're going to take a
quick break and we'll be right back. Welcome back to
the Naughty Nice Show. I'm your hairs drum shooter. Hey,

(14:53):
let's get to the polls that the dar lasher. We
talked about Harrison Ford dramatically walking out of the He
was disappointed, he was humiliated. Remember he was up for
his first Emmy because he's not really done a lot
of TV before. He's a movie star. That's changing now.
Movie stars are certainly signing up for TV. They want
the exposure, they want the money. TV's paying more than

(15:15):
movies now. Should Harrison have stayed after losing the award?
The award was the first award of the night, so
it's a long night to sit there after losing. Should
he just stayed? He walked out pretty much immediately. Seventy
percent said yes, he should have stayed. Be a little
bit gracious here, at least stay an hour, maybe half
an hour, like maybe fifteen minutes. Come on, has Indiana Jones?

(15:37):
Come on? Okay, don't forget to vote on today's Paul.
Go to our Twitter page had Naughty Nice rob Our
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back tomorrow to hear your results. And now it's time
for the nicest of the day. No, my nicest of
the day. It's Taylor Swift who is no Bridezilla. She

(15:58):
just wants to marry Travis. Get the diva demands and
the over the top tantrums. Taylor Swift is proving she
is no bridezilla as she plans her wedding to NFL
star Travis Kelcey. Insiders tell me that while the world's
most famous couple could throw a royal level extravaganza, Taylor's

(16:20):
keeping it surprisingly low key. Quote. Taylor isn't obsessed with
the flowers, or the dresses or the guest lists. She's
obsessed with Travis. Oh, that's all she cares about getting
married and start in the next chapter of their beautiful
lives together Now. He just did an interview where he
said it is much more nerve wracking playing in the

(16:43):
NFL than actually planning a wedding. I think it's all
pretty pretty easy, pretty pretty nice. You two are and
nicest of the day now and naughty is the day, naughty, naughty.
Kristen Davis is confirming what we told you first, Sex
and the City was canceled abruptly, so and just like

(17:05):
that was canceled and we broke this news. Kristin is
nag confirmed she had no idea this was happening and
was blizided by their news that the show was suddenly
canceled by HBO Max And so the actress emitted that
she had no idea they were pulling the plug after

(17:25):
three seasons. She said that she had just assumed. She
just assumed it would keep going and the cast was
kept in the dark. Now. Sources told me earlier this
summer that the crew and the cast were planning for
at least one more season. That's why the storyline did
not end very neatly. They thought they had another season,

(17:48):
They thought they had season four in the bag to
wrap it all up, and know they didn't. Everybody was shocked,
including Kristin Davis, Sarah Jessica Parker, and Michael Patrick King.
Nobody saw this coming. If you saw the ratings or
dare I'd be cheeky enough to say if you saw
the show. Oh, wasn't very good. Wasn't very good? Was it?

(18:10):
I really wanted to love it, just wasn't very good.
And it's not an embarrassment to admit that it came
to an end. And so I'm not quite sure why
the spin is out there that this was always going
to be the ending, This was always going to be
the plan. No, it wasn't. You were blindsided. You did
not see this coming, You did not want this to come.
In fact, Sarah still pushing the show to other streaming networks.

(18:34):
She's even pushing a new movie on it. Maybe it's
time to say goodbye to Carry Bradshaw at least for
a little bit. Okay, let's end with a moment of rum.
You get a Rubbie and a Robbie in a rum.
Happiness relies on what you think. Happiness doesn't come from
your bank account, or your job title or the label

(18:55):
on your clothes. It doesn't come from who you know
or how other people see you. Happiness lives in your mind.
It's not about what you have. It's not about who
you are on paper. It's about what you think every
single day. Gratitude, perspective, the way you interpret life challenges

(19:22):
and enjoy. That's what creates happiness, not circumstances. If you
want to be happy, start with your own thoughts, because
when you change your mindset, you change your life. I
had to learn this the hard way. I had a big,
powerful job and earned a lot of money, hanging out
with some big stars, and I was never happy. I

(19:44):
thought the bigger the star I was sitting having dinner with,
the more happy and happy I would be. Not true.
I thought if I earned a lot of money, I'd
be really happy. That was more miserable. I thought if
I lost five pounds, I suddenly would be happy, happy, happy.
I wasn't. It doesn't come from out there, It comes

(20:04):
from within, and it comes from within your mind. Happiness
relies on what you think. That is it for today.
Thank you so much for listening to the Naughty but
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