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June 30, 2025 20 mins

From Katie Couric’s viral jab at Lauren Sánchez’s over-the-top wedding gown (“Tacky is back!”), to Prince Harry’s raw defense of Meghan Markle as “the most trolled person in the world,” and legal experts warning that Sean “Diddy” Combs “might be cooked” as a jury prepares to deliberate—this week, the spotlight doesn’t just burn, it scorches.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
For sure. It's time la love No, Welcome to the
Naughty Bernice Show. I'm your host, wrong shooter. It's Monday morning.
Garrett off on vacation this week, so don't worry Naughty is.
It's just ask But we have got a ton a
ton of gossip news, celebrity dish to get to. So
let's jump right in. What time is it? My Friends

(00:30):
and Ears tea time big story at the top of
the show. So Katie Couric has really gone after Lauren
Sanchez's wedding look, calling it tacky the former Today Show titan,
get your head around that member. When Katie was the
queen of the TV universe, she was absolutely huge on television.

(00:53):
It was Katie and Matt Lower in a time when
millions and millions and millions of people watch The Today Show.
Now that's not the same. TV has certainly diminished, but
Katie was there during the heyday. Well now she's on
social media and she is publicly slamming Lauren Sanchez's much
hyped wedding gown, calling it tacky and a throwback to

(01:17):
quote suspicious consumption of the nineteen eighties. Katie wrote the
following quote, Welcome to the eighties when big hair and
conspicuous consumption ruled. Coreze sniped this in a comment section
after Jack Schlosburg he put the post up. He posted

(01:38):
her Vogue cover. Sir Sanchez is on the cover of Vogue,
and apparently Katie said Tacky is back. So once again,
this was not a post that Katie made. It was
a common slight difference here. So Jack was the one
Jack Schlossburg, he is J F. K. Junior's grandson, his

(01:59):
only grandson. He posted the Vogue cover and did it
to be shady. Then Katie in the comments section to
Jack and to everybody else, said that the eighties are
back and that apparently Taki is back to now Jack
cheekily and it does make me smile. I live in
the same building as Jack. Jack's my neighbor. He's very

(02:20):
very cheeky. He wrote, Let's bring scrunches back too. Oh
another trow vobe And so is this piling on now
some people? Some people are saying that the custom made
corseted Dolcy and Gabanna lace dress it took over nine
nine hundred hours to make and it landed her on

(02:41):
the cover of Vogue, But clearly it did not land
her in Katie couricx or Jack's good graces. Now, fans
are split on this. Some people are saying, quote, money
can't buy your class. Others are saying that let her
be happy, she looked stunning. Others are clapping back at Katie,
accusing the sixty seven year old news veteran of being

(03:04):
petty ever not scoring an invitation. Now on my substack
every day now, three times a day, I do a
very very short celebrity newsletter. It goes straight to your
emails if you love celebrity gossip. Robshooter on substack. One
of my items on my newsletter by one of my
reporters at the wedding told me they all think Katie's
just been a bit salty because she was never on

(03:26):
the guest list. Now, what do you think about this?
Is this a calculated jab? Many people say Katie's not
really off off hand remark. She's not really that person
that makes off the cuff comments. She's quite calculated. I
thought the dress was beautiful. Some people are saying wearing
white to your second wedding maybe not a great idea,

(03:47):
but I thought the dress was beautiful. Now, remember Lauren
Sanchez is known for the voom. She loves the very,
very revealing dresses. Those outfits can make you blush a
little bit. In fact, the dress that she pulled to
the party after the wedding, oh my goodness, it was
the voom. So I thought it was quite a subtle,
quite a demure dress that she was wearing. I don't know,

(04:11):
making fun of people's wedding dresses. I get this wedding.
I get what's going on here. It's not about the dress.
It's about these two When the world is struggling, what
are they doing spending fifty million dollars on a pretty vulgar,
pretty over the top wedding in Venice. The locals did
not want them there. There were lots of protests. Their
big mega yachts really shut down, the harbor got in

(04:33):
the way. These celebrities, they all took over a massive hotel.
It just made Venice difficult for everybody. And I'm not
sure it really added much to the tourist appeal of Venice.
When George Clooney got married there, I think everybody in
the world wanted to go and see Venice and the
canals and where George and them Ala tied The knot.
I'm told that that is not happening with Jess Bezos

(04:55):
and Lauren, And I think another point here that's worth
meant remembering, is that for one of the richest people
in the world, where is the Jeff Bezos Kansas Research Center,
Where is the Jeff Bezos New York Philharmonic, Where is
the Jeff Bezos charity? There isn't any Why has he
not built a public park, a hospital, a shelter, a school.

(05:20):
It's curious, isn't it. They did give some money to charity.
I broke that report first on anass Substack rubshooter at Substack,
but it just didn't really it didn't. It didn't translate
the message. People were still angry about this wedding. If
you remember, we shouldn't be that surprised. Just a few
months ago. He's the guy that shot that rocket into

(05:41):
space with Lauren Sanchez, Gail King, Katie Perry got a
ton of backlash. Spending millions of dollars to spend what
thirteen twelve, thirteen eleven minutes in space seemed like a
waste of money because there was no research done. It
wasn't like when when astronauts go to space They try
to better the world. They try to figure stuff out.
Satellites are in the sky, our cell phones work because

(06:04):
of these amazing, amazing astronauts. They were not astronauts, were they.
They were really tourists. They were space tourists who went
to space. Jeff paid for it all. It cost billions
of dollars. That money could have gone to feeding people,
looking after people who needed help. And so I do
get it. I do get why people get really angry
with him, and I think this wedding is a reflection

(06:26):
of that, which brings us to our pole question of
the day. Katie Current is calling Lauren Sanchez's wedding look taki,
is Katie right? Do you think it's tacky? I have
mixed feelings about this one. I think you can call
the wedding taki. I wouldn't call a bride's wedding dress taky.
I wouldn't. It's a personal choice. It's her day. Yes,

(06:47):
she wanted to share it with the world. What was interesting, too,
is that while the wedding was going on, she swiped
her Instagram, deleted her whole Instagram, and came back as
Lauren Sanchez Bezos. She wants the whole world to know
that now she is a bezos. I would have waited,
you know, maybe till the next day. I would have
had a great time at the party and the next
day then I would have thought about it by Instagram.

(07:08):
Also to that Vogue cover, when was it shot? Was
it shot weeks ago? Months ago? Was it shot just
hours ago? And then put on a digital copy of Vergue.
Don't worry, I'll get all the information, But for the moment,
let's focus on our pole question of the day. What
do you think was Katie Curic right? Was this a
tacky tacky wedding? Hey? Go vote on at Twitter page
add naughty nice rob. A Facebook page is naughty gilsib

(07:30):
and be sure to check back to Maraua to hear
your results. Okay, moving along at the wedding, it looks
like we have a new celebrity couple. Orlando Bloom and
Sydney Sweeney have sparked some romance rumors turning heads in Venice,
so call it the most unexpected duo to emerge from
the wedding. Orlando Bloom and Sydney Sweeney was spotted strolling

(07:55):
side by side as they walked through Venice, leaving tourists wagging.
Their tongues were wagging, and the cameras were flashing. So
sources tell me that the Pirates of the Caribbean Heart Drub,
fresh off his split from Katie Perry, was in good
spirits over the weekend. I know some sources at the wedding,
and they said he was having a really good time.
He was very flirty, he was very happy. He had

(08:15):
a very casual look on the days that he wasn't
at the ceremony, and he had a brilliant time. But
don't get ahead of yourselves. He is not with Sydney,
at least not yet. Also, we spotted Sydney flirting having
fun with Tom Brady, and so Tom Brady was there,
Leonardo DiCaprio was there, Orlando Bloom and so it was

(08:37):
Sydney and they were all having a great time. But
no romance. You're going to hear reports all day that
there's lots and lots of romance rumors. I hit the
phones immediately. Not true. They said it was actually Tom
Brady who spent most of the night dancing with everybody,
including her and model Brooks Nada. So he was a hot,
hot catch at the wedding, but I don't think anybody
caught him, and all Lander was having fun. Now my

(09:00):
Katie's sources say they know exactly what all Land does
up to. He's trying to make her a bit jealous.
They've just officially broken up after nine ten years together
and he went to the wedding. She couldn't go. There
was no big fallout with Lauren. She was working, she
was in Australia. Although Katie is the boss of the tour,
she's not a dancer or a singer on the tour.
It's her tour. She has the power to black out dates,

(09:22):
and she has the power to counsel shows or postpone them,
and she does have the money for private playing. So
if she really wanted to go, if this wedding was
a priority, she would have been there. She wasn't there.
I think after that space trip it really stung Katie.
The backlash. People really angry about all that money wasted
to shoot these people up into space just for a

(09:43):
few minutes. They were not astronauts once again, they were
doing no research. They were there as tourists. What a
waste of money. So I think Kati probably made the
right decision. Here, stay away. Not a good look. Do
your concert. But Orlando certainly was there, had a great time.
But he is not dating yet. He's trying to make
Katie Janels and we can see straight through it. Okay,

(10:04):
moving on to some royal news, Prince Harry is hitting
back saying Megan was one of the most trolled people
in the world. Wow, during a very emotional appearance here
in New York City. So it was a surprise appearance
at the twenty twenty five Nexus Global Summit in New York.
It's one of those rich folks summits where they get together.

(10:25):
I think a lot of discussions, a lot of panels.
I don't know if there's a lot of results, but
this is one of those big, massive summits where a
lot of talking, maybe not a lot of action. Well,
the Duke, he was there and he told a stunned
crowd that his wife was quote the most trolled person
in the world back in twenty eighteen. He said, there

(10:48):
was a lived experience. It became important after meeting a
lot of parents who have lost their kids to social media,
mostly through suicide. So this summit really was a chance
for Harry to relive some of those dark days when
they left the Royal family. If you remember, at the time,

(11:09):
Meghan told Oprah that she didn't know if she wanted
to be alive anymore. They amount of media attention, criticism,
pressure made her really really feel vulnerable. It was a
remarkable interview she gave with Oprah. Woindn't free, Well, Harry
is bringing that back up. They live in the past,
don't they these too? Totally? They're right. I like to

(11:29):
live in the future, but they seem to live in
the past. And he wasn't reading from a script. He
was really raw. He was protective, and he was really angry,
and he was reflecting on those days where social media
the pressures and Meghan's got a lot of resources. He
said that kids out their high school kids, children, they
just did not have these resources. And so when somebody,

(11:50):
when a ton of kids, when anybody comes at you
on social media, a lot of people don't have the
tools to deal with that. It's a lot, isn't it.
Has anyone ever come at you? I get it quite
a bit. I know Meghan Markel, and I don't think
I can say I'm bullied, but I do get people
give their opinions and I have to take it. I
want to take it. If I can do it for
a living, if I can dish it out, I can

(12:11):
take it back. But occasionally I must admit it does
sting a little bit. I find the best thing to
do is to not read it. I don't read that
much on social media. Harry here, I think he's got
a really valid message. I think using Megan as the
example here might not be the best messenger. There's such
a mixed feelings about Meghan Markel. Did she want this fame?

(12:34):
Remember when she said she didn't know what a royal was,
and then we found photographs of her as a young
child outside Buckingham Palace, and so there's lots of things
that Meghan has said that don't quite add up. Still,
I think we can all agree that must have been
a very traumatic experience for her. She was not ready.
She was a bee liist, Hollywood TV star, She was

(12:54):
not the most famous person in the world, and that
transition was extraordinary. Caate Middleton went through it to Kate
had even less fame before she married men, before she
married William, and so that was a real shock to
her system. They both handled it in very different ways
and so now Harry is talking about his wife again,
talking about the Royal family again, and I think that's

(13:15):
the mistake. Harry and Meghan say they desperately want to
move past the Royal family. They want the next steps
in their lives, and yet they keep bringing up the
past them. This is their dilemma. What they are running
away from the Royals is what makes them interesting, the Royals.
If they weren't members of the Royal family, these two
would be reality star celebrities. They would be Bethany Frankels.

(13:39):
They would be Luan the Countess. They would be Jill
Zarn type celebrities like reality stars. They wouldn't be the
most famous people in the world with Juliet Roberts and
George Clooney and Brad Pitt and so I think they've
got a dilemma here, and that's why their brand ultimately
has not taken off. We don't know what's next. The
past we know about. It's fascinating, it's heartbreaking when they

(14:00):
talk about it. But I think it's time for you
two to focus on the future. Okay, some did illegal
moves out of New York. Experts I spoke to over
the weekend said that the fallen mogul might be cooked. So,
after seven explosive weeks in a New York court room,
legal insiders are saying that the music mogul is in

(14:21):
serious jeopardy adually with one key charge transportation to engage
in prostitution. A defense attorney tells me Diddy might be
cooked on this one. The testimony from sex workers was direct, explicit,
and left little room for reinterpretation. Now, while Diddy's legal
team try to argue that he was paying for time,

(14:46):
not sex, prosecutors really painted a damning picture of a
man who used his wealth and his power to coerce
people into decade Lung's criminal activities fueled by control and
now the racketeering charges that's also hanging by a thread.
One legal expert tells me it could be a hung jury,

(15:08):
but they don't think he will be acquitted. There. It's
did a pretty good job in showing that Sean was
the head of a criminal enterprise and it was all
about serving his appetite. So we're going to get a result.
I predict this week. People really are on jury watch
right now. The case is over. Now it's in the

(15:29):
hands of the jury. I expect this week at Bombshell.
I told you on the podcast last week that team
didd He is very confident, and so I hit the
phones over the weekend spoke to several legal experts and
they said, not so vast. There's a few things here
that the evidence does seem to prove really really did happen,
and it's something that Team Diddy is going to have

(15:49):
a hard job getting passed. Okay, we're going to take
a quick break, and we were being right back. Welcome
back to the not even nice on your Hanystagram shooter
Hailer's getting to the polls that they dare lash show.
We talked about didd He so confident that he was
planning or his team were planning a big blowout party
to celebrate. Our question was quite simple. If you were

(16:11):
a jura and you were invited to this party, would
you go? Would you go? If you were a member
of the jury, Let's have a look. Eighty percent said no. Wow,
that's going to be really wild, isn't it. Stay tuned.
This is going to be a big Diddy week. Hey,
don't forget to vote on today's pole. Go to our
Twitter page, add naughty Nice rob our Facebook page is

(16:33):
naughty gossip and sure to check back to my router.
Here your results. And now it's time for the nicest
of the day. And nicest of the day surprisingly is
Chris Jenna, because she is just a manager who is
a player. So new reports from page six is at
the last minute, Chris Jenna personally negotiated an invite for

(16:56):
her daughters Chloe, Kendall and Kylie, who were not originally
on the list. So originally it was just Chris and Kim,
that's all Jeff and Lauren wanted. But during of Paris
out in together, Chris made it really really clear that
she'd like all her girls to come, and Lauren said, yes. Now,
it is pushy, but the reason it's the nicest of

(17:16):
the day is that this is what managers are meant
to do. You're meant to have a pushy, pushy manager.
And so even though a lot of a list stars
didn't want to go to this wedding, and I'm not
quite sure why Oprah was there, it is a good
exposure for reality stars. For people like Kim, this is
a good look to be there, to be rubbing shoulders
with really really super super super rich and so I

(17:39):
think we have to tip our hats here a little
bit to Chris Jenna a little bit pushy, but not
doing it just because she's their mummy, but she's arguably
one of the best managers. You might not like the Kardashians,
but you have to tip your hat to what they've done.
They've made themselves with very little talent into a billion
dollar brand, and a lot of that credit has to

(17:59):
go to Chris. Nice is the day and now I
Naughty's day, Naughty naughty. It's Matt Haley who used to
date Taylor Swift. He seems to take a little swing
at her during a show in Great Britain. So Matt,
never one for being that subtle, appeared to throw lyrical
shade at his ex girlfriend Taylor Swift during his headlining
set at Glastonbury Festival on Friday, and the Internet is

(18:22):
not missing the message. He said the following, What this
moment is making me realize is that I am probably
the best, the best songwriter of my generation, A poet,
ladies and gentleman. So he said it with a wink.
What he's referring to is the Taylor Swift had a
song on her tortured Poets Department album was a huge

(18:45):
hit in twenty twenty four, where she made fun of him,
saying that he was thought he was so brilliant, he
thought he was a generational words Now she never mentioned
his name, but it was clear that she was talking
about Matt Now he is poking back. Oh it's also childish,
and I gotta say Taylor too. I'm over these sort

(19:07):
of takedown songs. Spend your time building people up, not
ripping them down. Hey, let's end with the moment of
rum rubb you to rub. Stop hanging around people who
don't want you to win. If they downplay your progress,
if they go silent when you succeed, if they secretly
root for your failure, then they're not your people. Protect

(19:29):
your energy. You deserve to be around people who want
you to win. Let the rest go. Your future is
too big for small minded company. Hey, that is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening to the
Naughty but Nice Show. You are the co host to day.

(19:51):
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