Sources say Nick Reiner, 32, was struggling with a fresh romantic breakup that left him lonely and emotionally adrift, alongside his ongoing battle with addiction. At ABC News, insiders claim David Muir is quietly relieved after Matt Gutman departed for CBS, ending years of behind-the-scenes tension. Meanwhile, Meghan Markle reportedly pushed to direct her upcoming Netflix romantic comedy with Prince Harry, only to have the streaming giant swiftly shut down the proposal.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Advice for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's time love and love and love no Welcome to
the naughty but nine, charm your hands, strong shooter, and
it's Friday, which means and dear friend Corey Andrew joins us.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, Corey, are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I am here with my be.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I love your bells. We need your bells. It's been
quite a week, hasn't it. The Rob Reiner story has
dominated the headlines. Thank you for all your kind notes.
I've been doing a ton of TV about this story.
Yesterday I take to the Anderson Cooper special. He's doing
a special on Rob Ryaner. Thank you for all your
nice notes. I've been all over the where. I think,
(00:49):
really it's because our stories and news is so good.
We have excellent sources in LA and that's why we're
breaking the biggest news here. It's so so gratifying to
me that we're holding our own with the big boys,
with the People magazines of this world, with the New
York Podium and zas of this world. We punch our
(01:11):
little show punches above its weight. And that's partly because
of you. Naughti's and you too, Corey. You bring so
much to their table. Let's jump in.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Did you just say I do.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
No, no, no, I said thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, I haven't gotten that thank you. It sounds like
I do. Okay, let's jump into the show. I do
what time is it? My friends?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It is time? Big story at the top of the show.
So before the tragic death of his parents, Nick Ryana
struggled with loneliness and heartbreak. Insiders are telling me that
just weeks before the brutal murder of his parents, Nick
(01:55):
broke up with somebody special in his life.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He was struggling. We could see.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It is very clear now that this is a very
troubled young boy. He had trouble connecting. He wanted a
girlfriend desperately. He was thirty two years old. He had tried,
everything had ended badly. I'm told that he had tried
online dating, which a lot of young people do. It
is brutal. Miss d is online dating at the moment,
she would not be angry that I'm telling you this.
(02:22):
It's really, really, really tough. And for somebody who has
mental health issues problems, this world is so cruel. You
feel lonely, emotional pain, and then the substance abuse add
that in this might have pushed him all over the edge.
Once again, I want to make clear here we are
not excusing the fact that somebody wasn't kind to him,
(02:43):
that he did not have a girlfriend, for murdering his parents, well,
are not doing that. We are painting a context here,
a very complicated picture of a really dangerous, really awful,
really troubled young man. We can do it with compassion,
but we can still tell truth about this.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
We have to be really careful.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I think one of the reasons this story Corey is resonating,
it is going nowhere. All the numbers I'm getting on
my substanding and podcasting have gone up. Yeah, because people
are so interested in this story. And I think it's
because not only was Rob Reiner and his wife, his
beautiful wife loved, their work was loved. We've all seen
(03:24):
one of his movies. We've all been touched by him.
And then at the center of this Cory it is
a family story. Had he died in a car crash,
it would have been terrible and we would have mourned it.
If he had died at the hands of a stranger,
it would have been terrible and we would have mourned it. However,
(03:45):
it looks and I think we can pretty much say,
now we're quite sure by the evidence.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We're seeing, Yeah, it looks like it was his son.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you tap into something really, really important.
There's so many common denominators with this story that we
are related to. So you're right, it's a story of
someone that we all knew cross generationally, we grew up
with him, from all in the family to all the
wonderful films he directed.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But more importantly, Rob.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I find it to be a human interest story because
of the addiction component and the mental health component, and
those are areas that so many of us in our
own families have some familiarity with. Even there are rumors
that he might have been schizophrenic. Now we don't know
if that's true or not, but he did have seemingly
some kind of psychological disorder, and that made him socially awkward,
(04:33):
hard to adapt to society. So I think we all
can relate to that somewhat feeling of isolation. So you're right,
we're not trying to justify it, but in an attempt
to understand it, we can see where all these things
may have intersected and gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I'm told by my sources close to the family
that they were paying him an allowance each month.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The kid did not have a job.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He was thirty years thirty two years old, and he
was leaving in his mum and dad's beach house. Boohoo,
though it's a poolhouse in I mean, fifteen million dollars covantage,
every advantage, every advantage. I go from being really really
sad to really really angry on this. We know that
the family is standing by him. I'm told the family
(05:17):
is covering his legal bills. He is a lawyer that
charges two thousand dollars an hour. So this lawyer, Nick's
not paying for that lawyer. It doesn't have that money.
So where's that money coming from. There's any one place.
It's the family and the fact they've hired or Nick
is hired. Quote Nick has hired such a high profile lawyer. No,
he wouldn't have access to him. He's not phoning people
(05:38):
from the jail. Who's doing this? This is the family.
Once again, we're not going to do a pole question today. No,
we don't do pole questions when the subject matter is
so sensitive, so delicate, because poles just feel quite trivial,
don't they. It's like a yes or a no, and
so no polls today. Hopefully we're back to poll's next week. Okay,
moving along to a story. Oh it made me gigg.
(06:01):
This story made me giggle. ABC is having a little
sigh of relief.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, let me just first say that I am team
Matt Gutman. But yes, he's at a household name. Not yet,
but hopefully he will be. So David Muir who's over
at ABC, of course, David Muir, he is relieved that
Matt Gutman, who was a CBS who is also a
fellow anchor at ABC, he's leaving now for CBS. So
(06:29):
ABC insiders said that David Muir is quietly pleased as
Matt Gudman moves to CBS, ending a long standing tension
between the two anchors. Now, Gutman, who is ABC's chief
national correspondent, joined CBS amid executive changes, while Muir he
reportedly relishes the new spotlight now unobstructed. He's in his
own lane. Now he's the shining bell of the ball,
(06:52):
if you will. And sources describe Gutman as charismatic but controversial,
citing previous professional missteps.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He has made a couple of big ones.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I mean, I have to say in the World News area,
he's made some big missteps. But ABC staffer said that
Mirror is focusing on just being disciplined in his own right,
and that's something he really relishes. And he thought that
Gutman was a little you know, he was a little
controversial with his scandals and antics. So Gutman's departure now
was like a chance for David Muhr to shine on
(07:22):
his own. But let me just tell you one thing, David, Honey,
I'm just gonna tell you right now, you were threatened
by that man because, like I mentioned, Matt Gutman is gorgeous,
like he's going just rip bodied, and he didn't didn't
shy away from taking his shirt off.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh there's pictures of you Google Matt Gutman. So Matt
Gutman was on the ABC for twenty years. I've met
him a few times. He's tiny, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Don't ruin the fantasy.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So you can still be sexy, sexy, Cory, you can
be a sexy little package.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He's adorable and the pictures that he posted got him
in trouble at ABC. Once he posted his picture he
was at the beach and he's wearing his swimming shorts
and they were so low that you got to see
his puby. He knew that, he did know it, but
ABC didn't know. ABC Diane Sawyer having a couple of
teams with Bob and Roberts that, my goodness, George Stephanopolis
(08:18):
is not doing that. It's quite interesting, isn't it. Do
you think that people that are really successful, really handsome,
really rich, don't have any insecurities. David mull has the
number one show on television. Seven eight million people watch
his nightly news is far more than anybody else. He
beats Fox News. He beats Yummy Yamas, Tom Yar, but
(08:41):
we also pushed out Tom Yark unders they Tom worked
at ABC and then David.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
David gets insecure.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It seems he's gorgeous. I do think Matt is Matt Matt.
Matt is a really.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Good looking guy. But it is so interesting. Even at
the very very top, you can get jealous.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't get jealous corey of people's looks. I definitely
see gorgeous people. I'm like, oh my gosh, why can't
I be the only can like? I definitely see that,
but it doesn't really affect my day. To day, I
do get jealous of people's talent when I see somebody
really really talented, When I see somebody on television or
doing a podcast and their skills are just so good.
(09:24):
Howard Stern is somebody I'm jealous of. He interviews people
the like it's the best. I think he gives the
best interview. Get what you might think of Howard? He
asks these questions, and so I do get jealous of
people's talent, not so much their looks. Now, Corey, what
about you tell the truth, Corey, because you could be
a bit shallow. You love a good look, Corey, or
(09:47):
you're always groomled, your hair's always on point, looks a
very poor.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Listen for every photo you see, there's a thousand that
I hit delete. You're never see but I.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Will you know. I tell you though about me.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'm known to help people in the industry. I'm not
really threatened because I really believe my gifts are my
gifts and you can't do what I do. I can't
do what you do, so I have I'll tell you.
I was in the presence of a celebrity who shall
remain nameless, and this celebrity was trying to get into
music and singing. They were very famous, and once at
(10:20):
a party I was a part of their their entourage.
And once at a party someone introduced me to Billy
Joel in front of this celebrity and said, this is
Corey Andrew, a very amazing singer and songwriter. And at
that point, this celebrity cuts me.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Off, chop that. You know, she's a friend of Madonna's.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
How can you be so insecure you're already famous, Like,
let me get it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I often want to say, like it's your pie, your
piece of the part, not being right the whole.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You've got everything.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like honestly, sometimes when I go out there, because I
do television in the podcast has become a success way
beyond any my dreams a dreams. Sometimes I do get
a little bit recognized. And if I'm out with the
housewife and somebody comes over to the table they don't
like it, it makes me like, okay, moving along. Baron
(11:24):
Trump is going to be very very sparsely seen in
Milania's new documentary, So a big, big new documentary. I
think she got paid forty million dollars for this documentary.
It's on Netflix, massive, It's coming out in the New Year.
We've seen the trailer. However, Baron is barely and it's
she Milania is very protective about him. She does not
(11:44):
want him in the spotlight. He's in the background. But
I think what's really interesting is a Vonnker has been
cut out. There is no of lost. I've heard that
those two they are they are not kind to each other.
But my inside is it's weird because we don't really
do politics. But I still think of the Trumps as
the celebrity so I've known them from entertainment.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It'd be like Jessica Simpson became the president.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I still know, like I'd have sources around Jesse because
I know Jesse Gout, I know Malaia, and so I
think this is just while she controls this this documentary.
So we're staying away from politics. But why do you
think it's so interesting that her I guess it's her
daughter in law, her stepdaughter daughter step no step daughter,
(12:35):
not in law because she's blood relative to Donald, so
she would be a step no.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, you know, yeah, I will say there's two.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Things that are positive and positive about this. You know,
in one way, this is a clear path where Milanya
has actually monetized her role based on her own personality.
You know, you can't claim that it's her money. Someone
came to her directly for this particular role about who
she is, and also hats off to her no matter what,
whatever do you think about her, Hats off to her
(13:05):
for being protective of her child. I like that to
part is good. I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's a real sign for me.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
There's lots of celebrities that I really they really bug me,
but when it comes to their kids, they're great. You've
got to be able to you know, Madonna's controversial, she's
a great, a terrific. Dina Ross, she's a great, brilliant
and then you see these Katie Holmes, what a great
mom raising Sori that ugly divorce. Couldn't have been easy
(13:31):
and did an amazing job. Okay, we've got some Meghan
Marchael news like you said that. And so Meghan has
a new project coming up on Netflix. It's a rom com.
So they bought a book, quite a famous book. They're
turning it into a film. However, Megan wanted some little extra.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
What did she They were like, girl, not after that
reality show, no, ma'am. But sources say that Meghan Markle
wanted to personally direct the show. She wanted to direct
the show. And this rom com as you've mentioned Rob
with with Prince Harry, They're gonna be producing it. You know,
Netflix said, Okay, we'll let you produce, but we'd rather
not be behind the camera. Girl, So you're gonna have to,
(14:09):
you know, hold those ambitions off a little bit more.
But insiders, you know, her attempts to micromanage everything is
what really got them got their their backs up. You know,
she wants to micro manage the casting, the camera angles,
even you know, minor scenes and details, and the executives
were like, no, ma'am, you don't have that ability to
(14:29):
do this now, Rob, she you know a lot of
the well, let's we talked about Rob Reiner earlier. Let's
not forget Rob Reiner comes from the world of acting,
just like Penny Marshall, just like Ron Howard and they
and they went on to prove they have a lot
of wonderful director directorial ability.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So they did step by steps there. When we were
talking about this before the show started, Megan, guys, from
zero to one hundred, Megan, you can direct, you can
learn to direct, You can learn this craft. And I
was saying, you don't have the skill to do this
was saying, is your first directing project should not be
a massive feature, but you really need to succeed. Go
and direct a short a two minutes. Go and show
(15:09):
us what you're going to do, don't Yeah, go and
learn your craft.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I started before this podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was doing two three minute videos like just learning
to do voiceovers and.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Said, don't start here.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And nobody is saying that Megan Marko can't direct. We
can all do anything. I Corey, you, Corey, we can
fly a plane if we learned how to. We can't
get on a plane today and fly one. If you
and me went to flight school for two years, we
would be able to imagine. Corey, if you and me
went to medical school for seven years, we could be done.
I believe you can teach almost anybody anything. But start
(15:42):
step by step, good point, step by step. That's what
all were saying here, Megan, Okay, we're going to take
a little break.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And we will be right back.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Welcome back to the Naughty but Najam your host RUMs
you to with the differend, Corey Andrew, we don't have
a pole result today. It's been a tricky week with pause.
So there's not a poll to vote on, there's no
results to give. But what we can do He's goes
straight to my favorite party of the.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Show, nicest of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So Princesses Eugene and Beatrice invite it to Christmas without
their parents. So King Charles has invited Princesses Eugenie and
Beatrice to spend Christmas with the royal family, sources say,
but deliberately excluded their parents. Of course, the very sort
of controversial at this time Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Now,
(16:31):
the move is seen as a way to sort of
continue to include the daughters in the regular maintaining the
family and while keeping distance from Andrew, who stepped away
from his royal duties amid the controversy. But sources describe
the invitation as a careful balance of family unit and
public perception. I don't know, I think it's a well,
I think the public perception part for me, I think
(16:52):
is the bigger issue. They're trying to, you know, put
up a particular facade for the public because that Andrews
story is so contra it's controversial It's awful, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But I don't want the kids to be punished for
the parents' crimes here And so it's a very tricky situation,
Like if there's somebody in your family that's so toxic,
do you have to cut off that whole wing of
the family.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I have a sister that you do.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yes, See, I'm trying to I'm trying to find a balance.
I have a family member who it's it's she's trouble.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
She's a lot of trouble for the kids.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm really yeah, yeah, I said, I just like, but
can I cut off their mom without kidd enough that
it is a juggle?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I like to see that they're trying.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It is Christmas and so good cheer, good cheer, okay,
and now and not is the day. It's not just
Nick Reiner who is upsetting Hollywood. I'm told Hollywood parents
are frightened, frightened now about some of their own children.
So there are a lot of Neppo babies in Hollywood.
(17:53):
I'm not going to name names. But only recently, just
a week ago, we were talking about a very very
disturbed celebrity kids. Now Hollywood is looking around and they're
saying that financial privilege does not protect you against the
worst possible outcomes. They are citing homelessness, substance abuse, financial instability,
(18:15):
and being in their parents' shadows. Here psychologist say, it's
a unique burden. Being the child of somebody famous is
also to an amazing privilege, and so this is a
much more complicated situation. The next time we talk about
a celebrity kid in trouble, and we will, it's going
to be different, Corey, because this what happened has now
(18:37):
changed everything. This is in the back of people's mind.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You want to protect your kid, you've gotta also protect yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Serious, Okay, let's end with a moment of rub. Not
every closed door is locked, so just push sometimes that's
all it needs. Too often we stop ourselves from even
try and convinced that the door is locked or we're
going to get rejected or failure, so we wait on
the other side of the door. But life isn't about
(19:08):
waiting for permission.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, it's about pushing that door you're staring at right now.
Think of that door. What do you want to walk
through today?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Take a small step, just a little one. Stop overthinking it,
stop hesitating, Give it a push, Give it a push,
because the world responds to brave. The next opportunity is
just on the other side of that door. I have
made this mistake. I have thought doors were shut. They
(19:37):
were closed, they weren't shut. And a little push or
a big push can change your life. Hey, that is
it for this week. Thank you so much for listening
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(20:18):
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Advice for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's time love and love and love no Welcome to
the naughty but nine, charm your hands, strong shooter, and
it's Friday, which means and dear friend Corey Andrew joins us.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, Corey, are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I am here with my be.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I love your bells. We need your bells. It's been
quite a week, hasn't it. The Rob Reiner story has
dominated the headlines. Thank you for all your kind notes.
I've been doing a ton of TV about this story.
Yesterday I take to the Anderson Cooper special. He's doing
a special on Rob Ryaner. Thank you for all your
nice notes. I've been all over the where. I think,
(00:49):
really it's because our stories and news is so good.
We have excellent sources in LA and that's why we're
breaking the biggest news here. It's so so gratifying to
me that we're holding our own with the big boys,
with the People magazines of this world, with the New
York Podium and zas of this world. We punch our
(01:11):
little show punches above its weight. And that's partly because
of you. Naughti's and you too, Corey. You bring so
much to their table. Let's jump in.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Did you just say I do.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
No, no, no, I said thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, I haven't gotten that thank you. It sounds like
I do. Okay, let's jump into the show. I do
what time is it? My friends?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It is time? Big story at the top of the show.
So before the tragic death of his parents, Nick Ryana
struggled with loneliness and heartbreak. Insiders are telling me that
just weeks before the brutal murder of his parents, Nick
(01:55):
broke up with somebody special in his life.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He was struggling. We could see.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It is very clear now that this is a very
troubled young boy. He had trouble connecting. He wanted a
girlfriend desperately. He was thirty two years old. He had tried,
everything had ended badly. I'm told that he had tried
online dating, which a lot of young people do. It
is brutal. Miss d is online dating at the moment,
she would not be angry that I'm telling you this.
(02:22):
It's really, really, really tough. And for somebody who has
mental health issues problems, this world is so cruel. You
feel lonely, emotional pain, and then the substance abuse add
that in this might have pushed him all over the edge.
Once again, I want to make clear here we are
not excusing the fact that somebody wasn't kind to him,
(02:43):
that he did not have a girlfriend, for murdering his parents, well,
are not doing that. We are painting a context here,
a very complicated picture of a really dangerous, really awful,
really troubled young man. We can do it with compassion,
but we can still tell truth about this.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
We have to be really careful.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I think one of the reasons this story Corey is resonating,
it is going nowhere. All the numbers I'm getting on
my substanding and podcasting have gone up. Yeah, because people
are so interested in this story. And I think it's
because not only was Rob Reiner and his wife, his
beautiful wife loved, their work was loved. We've all seen
(03:24):
one of his movies. We've all been touched by him.
And then at the center of this Cory it is
a family story. Had he died in a car crash,
it would have been terrible and we would have mourned it.
If he had died at the hands of a stranger,
it would have been terrible and we would have mourned it. However,
(03:45):
it looks and I think we can pretty much say,
now we're quite sure by the evidence.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We're seeing, Yeah, it looks like it was his son.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you tap into something really, really important.
There's so many common denominators with this story that we
are related to. So you're right, it's a story of
someone that we all knew cross generationally, we grew up
with him, from all in the family to all the
wonderful films he directed.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But more importantly, Rob.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I find it to be a human interest story because
of the addiction component and the mental health component, and
those are areas that so many of us in our
own families have some familiarity with. Even there are rumors
that he might have been schizophrenic. Now we don't know
if that's true or not, but he did have seemingly
some kind of psychological disorder, and that made him socially awkward,
(04:33):
hard to adapt to society. So I think we all
can relate to that somewhat feeling of isolation. So you're right,
we're not trying to justify it, but in an attempt
to understand it, we can see where all these things
may have intersected and gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I'm told by my sources close to the family
that they were paying him an allowance each month.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The kid did not have a job.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
He was thirty years thirty two years old, and he
was leaving in his mum and dad's beach house. Boohoo,
though it's a poolhouse in I mean, fifteen million dollars covantage,
every advantage, every advantage. I go from being really really
sad to really really angry on this. We know that
the family is standing by him. I'm told the family
(05:17):
is covering his legal bills. He is a lawyer that
charges two thousand dollars an hour. So this lawyer, Nick's
not paying for that lawyer. It doesn't have that money.
So where's that money coming from. There's any one place.
It's the family and the fact they've hired or Nick
is hired. Quote Nick has hired such a high profile lawyer. No,
he wouldn't have access to him. He's not phoning people
(05:38):
from the jail. Who's doing this? This is the family.
Once again, we're not going to do a pole question today. No,
we don't do pole questions when the subject matter is
so sensitive, so delicate, because poles just feel quite trivial,
don't they. It's like a yes or a no, and
so no polls today. Hopefully we're back to poll's next week. Okay,
moving along to a story. Oh it made me gigg.
(06:01):
This story made me giggle. ABC is having a little
sigh of relief.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, let me just first say that I am team
Matt Gutman. But yes, he's at a household name. Not yet,
but hopefully he will be. So David Muir who's over
at ABC, of course, David Muir, he is relieved that
Matt Gutman, who was a CBS who is also a
fellow anchor at ABC, he's leaving now for CBS. So
(06:29):
ABC insiders said that David Muir is quietly pleased as
Matt Gudman moves to CBS, ending a long standing tension
between the two anchors. Now, Gutman, who is ABC's chief
national correspondent, joined CBS amid executive changes, while Muir he
reportedly relishes the new spotlight now unobstructed. He's in his
own lane. Now he's the shining bell of the ball,
(06:52):
if you will. And sources describe Gutman as charismatic but controversial,
citing previous professional missteps.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
He has made a couple of big ones.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I mean, I have to say in the World News area,
he's made some big missteps. But ABC staffer said that
Mirror is focusing on just being disciplined in his own right,
and that's something he really relishes. And he thought that
Gutman was a little you know, he was a little
controversial with his scandals and antics. So Gutman's departure now
was like a chance for David Muhr to shine on
(07:22):
his own. But let me just tell you one thing, David, Honey,
I'm just gonna tell you right now, you were threatened
by that man because, like I mentioned, Matt Gutman is gorgeous,
like he's going just rip bodied, and he didn't didn't
shy away from taking his shirt off.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh there's pictures of you Google Matt Gutman. So Matt
Gutman was on the ABC for twenty years. I've met
him a few times. He's tiny, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Don't ruin the fantasy.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So you can still be sexy, sexy, Cory, you can
be a sexy little package.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He's adorable and the pictures that he posted got him
in trouble at ABC. Once he posted his picture he
was at the beach and he's wearing his swimming shorts
and they were so low that you got to see
his puby. He knew that, he did know it, but
ABC didn't know. ABC Diane Sawyer having a couple of
teams with Bob and Roberts that, my goodness, George Stephanopolis
(08:18):
is not doing that. It's quite interesting, isn't it. Do
you think that people that are really successful, really handsome,
really rich, don't have any insecurities. David mull has the
number one show on television. Seven eight million people watch
his nightly news is far more than anybody else. He
beats Fox News. He beats Yummy Yamas, Tom Yar, but
(08:41):
we also pushed out Tom Yark unders they Tom worked
at ABC and then David.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
David gets insecure.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It seems he's gorgeous. I do think Matt is Matt Matt.
Matt is a really.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Good looking guy. But it is so interesting. Even at
the very very top, you can get jealous.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't get jealous corey of people's looks. I definitely
see gorgeous people. I'm like, oh my gosh, why can't
I be the only can like? I definitely see that,
but it doesn't really affect my day. To day, I
do get jealous of people's talent when I see somebody
really really talented, When I see somebody on television or
doing a podcast and their skills are just so good.
(09:24):
Howard Stern is somebody I'm jealous of. He interviews people
the like it's the best. I think he gives the
best interview. Get what you might think of Howard? He
asks these questions, and so I do get jealous of
people's talent, not so much their looks. Now, Corey, what
about you tell the truth, Corey, because you could be
a bit shallow. You love a good look, Corey, or
(09:47):
you're always groomled, your hair's always on point, looks a
very poor.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Listen for every photo you see, there's a thousand that
I hit delete. You're never see but I.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Will you know. I tell you though about me.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'm known to help people in the industry. I'm not
really threatened because I really believe my gifts are my
gifts and you can't do what I do. I can't
do what you do, so I have I'll tell you.
I was in the presence of a celebrity who shall
remain nameless, and this celebrity was trying to get into
music and singing. They were very famous, and once at
(10:20):
a party I was a part of their their entourage.
And once at a party someone introduced me to Billy
Joel in front of this celebrity and said, this is
Corey Andrew, a very amazing singer and songwriter. And at
that point, this celebrity cuts me.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Off, chop that. You know, she's a friend of Madonna's.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
How can you be so insecure you're already famous, Like,
let me get it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I often want to say, like it's your pie, your
piece of the part, not being right the whole.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You've got everything.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Like honestly, sometimes when I go out there, because I
do television in the podcast has become a success way
beyond any my dreams a dreams. Sometimes I do get
a little bit recognized. And if I'm out with the
housewife and somebody comes over to the table they don't
like it, it makes me like, okay, moving along. Baron
(11:24):
Trump is going to be very very sparsely seen in
Milania's new documentary, So a big, big new documentary. I
think she got paid forty million dollars for this documentary.
It's on Netflix, massive, It's coming out in the New Year.
We've seen the trailer. However, Baron is barely and it's
she Milania is very protective about him. She does not
(11:44):
want him in the spotlight. He's in the background. But
I think what's really interesting is a Vonnker has been
cut out. There is no of lost. I've heard that
those two they are they are not kind to each other.
But my inside is it's weird because we don't really
do politics. But I still think of the Trumps as
the celebrity so I've known them from entertainment.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
It'd be like Jessica Simpson became the president.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I still know, like I'd have sources around Jesse because
I know Jesse Gout, I know Malaia, and so I
think this is just while she controls this this documentary.
So we're staying away from politics. But why do you
think it's so interesting that her I guess it's her
daughter in law, her stepdaughter daughter step no step daughter,
(12:35):
not in law because she's blood relative to Donald, so
she would be a step no.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, you know, yeah, I will say there's two.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Things that are positive and positive about this. You know,
in one way, this is a clear path where Milanya
has actually monetized her role based on her own personality.
You know, you can't claim that it's her money. Someone
came to her directly for this particular role about who
she is, and also hats off to her no matter what,
whatever do you think about her, Hats off to her
(13:05):
for being protective of her child. I like that to
part is good. I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's a real sign for me.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
There's lots of celebrities that I really they really bug me,
but when it comes to their kids, they're great. You've
got to be able to you know, Madonna's controversial, she's
a great, a terrific. Dina Ross, she's a great, brilliant
and then you see these Katie Holmes, what a great
mom raising Sori that ugly divorce. Couldn't have been easy
(13:31):
and did an amazing job. Okay, we've got some Meghan
Marchael news like you said that. And so Meghan has
a new project coming up on Netflix. It's a rom com.
So they bought a book, quite a famous book. They're
turning it into a film. However, Megan wanted some little extra.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
What did she They were like, girl, not after that
reality show, no, ma'am. But sources say that Meghan Markle
wanted to personally direct the show. She wanted to direct
the show. And this rom com as you've mentioned Rob
with with Prince Harry, They're gonna be producing it. You know,
Netflix said, Okay, we'll let you produce, but we'd rather
not be behind the camera. Girl, So you're gonna have to,
(14:09):
you know, hold those ambitions off a little bit more.
But insiders, you know, her attempts to micromanage everything is
what really got them got their their backs up. You know,
she wants to micro manage the casting, the camera angles,
even you know, minor scenes and details, and the executives
were like, no, ma'am, you don't have that ability to
(14:29):
do this now, Rob, she you know a lot of
the well, let's we talked about Rob Reiner earlier. Let's
not forget Rob Reiner comes from the world of acting,
just like Penny Marshall, just like Ron Howard and they
and they went on to prove they have a lot
of wonderful director directorial ability.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So they did step by steps there. When we were
talking about this before the show started, Megan, guys, from
zero to one hundred, Megan, you can direct, you can
learn to direct, You can learn this craft. And I
was saying, you don't have the skill to do this
was saying, is your first directing project should not be
a massive feature, but you really need to succeed. Go
and direct a short a two minutes. Go and show
(15:09):
us what you're going to do, don't Yeah, go and
learn your craft.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I started before this podcast.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was doing two three minute videos like just learning
to do voiceovers and.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Said, don't start here.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And nobody is saying that Megan Marko can't direct. We
can all do anything. I Corey, you, Corey, we can
fly a plane if we learned how to. We can't
get on a plane today and fly one. If you
and me went to flight school for two years, we
would be able to imagine. Corey, if you and me
went to medical school for seven years, we could be done.
I believe you can teach almost anybody anything. But start
(15:42):
step by step, good point, step by step. That's what
all were saying here, Megan, Okay, we're going to take
a little break.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And we will be right back.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Welcome back to the Naughty but Najam your host RUMs
you to with the differend, Corey Andrew, we don't have
a pole result today. It's been a tricky week with pause.
So there's not a poll to vote on, there's no
results to give. But what we can do He's goes
straight to my favorite party of the.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Show, nicest of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So Princesses Eugene and Beatrice invite it to Christmas without
their parents. So King Charles has invited Princesses Eugenie and
Beatrice to spend Christmas with the royal family, sources say,
but deliberately excluded their parents. Of course, the very sort
of controversial at this time Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Now,
(16:31):
the move is seen as a way to sort of
continue to include the daughters in the regular maintaining the
family and while keeping distance from Andrew, who stepped away
from his royal duties amid the controversy. But sources describe
the invitation as a careful balance of family unit and
public perception. I don't know, I think it's a well,
I think the public perception part for me, I think
(16:52):
is the bigger issue. They're trying to, you know, put
up a particular facade for the public because that Andrews
story is so contra it's controversial It's awful, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But I don't want the kids to be punished for
the parents' crimes here And so it's a very tricky situation,
Like if there's somebody in your family that's so toxic,
do you have to cut off that whole wing of
the family.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I have a sister that you do.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yes, See, I'm trying to I'm trying to find a balance.
I have a family member who it's it's she's trouble.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
She's a lot of trouble for the kids.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm really yeah, yeah, I said, I just like, but
can I cut off their mom without kidd enough that
it is a juggle?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I like to see that they're trying.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It is Christmas and so good cheer, good cheer, okay,
and now and not is the day. It's not just
Nick Reiner who is upsetting Hollywood. I'm told Hollywood parents
are frightened, frightened now about some of their own children.
So there are a lot of Neppo babies in Hollywood.
(17:53):
I'm not going to name names. But only recently, just
a week ago, we were talking about a very very
disturbed celebrity kids. Now Hollywood is looking around and they're
saying that financial privilege does not protect you against the
worst possible outcomes. They are citing homelessness, substance abuse, financial instability,
(18:15):
and being in their parents' shadows. Here psychologist say, it's
a unique burden. Being the child of somebody famous is
also to an amazing privilege, and so this is a
much more complicated situation. The next time we talk about
a celebrity kid in trouble, and we will, it's going
to be different, Corey, because this what happened has now
(18:37):
changed everything. This is in the back of people's mind.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You want to protect your kid, you've gotta also protect yourself.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Serious, Okay, let's end with a moment of rub. Not
every closed door is locked, so just push sometimes that's
all it needs. Too often we stop ourselves from even
try and convinced that the door is locked or we're
going to get rejected or failure, so we wait on
the other side of the door. But life isn't about
(19:08):
waiting for permission.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
No, it's about pushing that door you're staring at right now.
Think of that door. What do you want to walk
through today?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Take a small step, just a little one. Stop overthinking it,
stop hesitating, Give it a push, Give it a push,
because the world responds to brave. The next opportunity is
just on the other side of that door. I have
made this mistake. I have thought doors were shut. They
(19:37):
were closed, they weren't shut. And a little push or
a big push can change your life. Hey, that is
it for this week. Thank you so much for listening
to the Naughty but Nice with Robin Coryscher production of
Elvister ran on iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Don't forget to.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Subscribe on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast wherever you listen,
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Speaker 1 (19:56):
They really really do help.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And thank you again. Everybody this week has pre ordered
my book. It started with a whisper. I know it's
not out until spring, but if you preorder it now,
it's really really helpful for the algorithm. I don't understand it,
but this whole thing on Amazon. So if you do,
If you have pre ordered it, thank you. If you haven't.
I know it's Christmas. I know it's difficult at this
time of year. I know money is tied, but if
(20:18):
you can, I would be really, really really grateful. Let's
end with that tagline. Remember nice bro
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