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Prince Harry quietly scored a major security victory — but insiders reveal it’s about more than just protection. He’s laying the groundwork for a royal court that could rival Prince William, Prince of Wales. Meanwhile, Sheinelle Jones officially takes over the Today Show chair next to co-host Jenna Bush Hager, leaving some colleagues feeling blindsided by the switch. And in Hollywood, Pamela Anderson’s whirlwind romance with Liam Neeson has been exposed as mostly a publicity stunt, despite her glowing stories of candlelit dinners, gardening, and “lost weeks” at Neeson’s upstate retreat. Royals, TV, and celebrity PR collide in one week of drama.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Scalable advice for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's time and Lowell. Welcome through the naughty of a
night show. I'm your host, rap Shooter. It is Wednesday,
which means I do friend. Donnie Meacham joins us, Hey, Donnie,
are you there?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Wednesday? Wednesday? Wednesday my favorite day of the week. So
happy to be.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's a good day. It's a good day, isn't it Thursday?
I think it's my favorite because we're right there at
the weekends. But I'll take it. There you go, let's
jump into my shod. What time is it? My friends
and ears are tee time. Big story at the top
of the show. So Harry is planning to set up
a rival royal court in Britain once his security demands
are met. So we spoke about this a few days ago.

(00:51):
The Brits the government has decided that they will review
his security clearance in Britain. He lost it and he
lost all that when he stepped down as a working well,
I get it. If you leave a job, you can't
keep the perks. So if you get a company car
and you leave the job, you're going to lose the car.
If you get all these benefits. You're going to lose
them when you leave that job. So Harry left the job.

(01:11):
The perks went away. He argued, I'm still a prince,
so I did not choose to be a prince. I
was born a prince. He's got a good point. I
should have security. The problem is the taxpayer is paying
for that, and he's very wealthy and his dad has
a billion pounds, so maybe the dad should pay. Maybe
Harry should play. When Taylor Swift goes to London and
Beyonce's in London, they have private security now to the

(01:31):
police want to make sure they're safe. Of course they do,
but they're not going to give you your own detail.
That's what he is insisting on. It looks like that
might happen, or at least it's going to be reviewed.
Sources are saying. If it does indeed happen, he will
now feel free to get to Britain whenever he wants.
He wants this. He wants to be over there doing events,
charity stuff, really setting up his own court, and that

(01:53):
might be one of the reasons that the Palace initially
was not so helpful. They really didn't want him there.
Could see that Donnae that both brothers in Britain, both
having their own events, their own charities, their own stuff.
It could be problematic, but I think ultimately here the
King's gonna win. He's still the King. Harry might be
able to win back support. At the minute, the Brits

(02:15):
are not that happy with Harry, so this might be
an uphill battle, but I think he will get this security.
I don't know if the taxpayer should pay for it.
Why should my family pay for this, particularly when he
lives in a what twenty thirty million dollar has in
Monte see do he got twenty million dollars for his
book It Blayd Taylor Swift going to Britain and saying, Ah,
you've got to give me security and you have to

(02:36):
pay for my security. We'd be like, h no, And
let's be honest. Britain's a great place. Is there danger everywhere? Yes,
I'm aware of that. But the way Harry talks about Britain,
you would think we were sending him to a Raq,
like you would think he was going into Afghanistan. You
go into London, sweetie, and the London that he visits,
donnee ain't the London that me and you were staying

(02:58):
in these dead He's stayed in Mayfair, He's stayed literally
in the palace. He's gonna be fine, but lots of
news here. What do you think it's.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Gonna playing polo.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
They're gonna rob him like like running by a horse
and grab as well.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Harry, get out of here. This is the thing. Harry
has completely He's flipped the switch. Now he's gone. He's
like completely, he's gone even more rogue to announce. He's like, oh,
you know what, I'm just gonna go and I'm gonna
get whatever I want and I'm just gonna stick it
to them. That's basically what he's saying. I'm just gonna stay.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
He's gonna stick it to them. He's got nothing to
lose at this point, he's told all the secrets. He
has nothing to lose. Are they gonna take away his title?
Are some rumors of that? Are speaking to a royal
friend of mine yesterday in Britain and I said probably not.
They said that really honestly, William doesn't think the brand
so six brands is worth that much anymore. We've seen
through their Netflix steel and how over the last five

(03:52):
years it's become diminished, hasn't it That brand is not
worth what it used to be. We see this often
with different products, something that we loved twenty years ago,
like a swatchwatch. Remember we all wanted Swatch watches that
oh now we couldn't care less. Remember when we all
wanted a BlackBerry? Now please, we don't use them. So
I think the Sussex brand is not worth what it was.

(04:13):
And if if William removed that, it wouldn't really be
anything benefit for him. He'll just look petty. He looks
so petty, so I don't think he's going to remove it.
But it looks to me, Donnie as if you're right here,
Harry Blam has gone full rogue. He wants that security back,
and if he is back, expect him to pop up
in Britain a lot more. And I would guess it's
gonna be on the same day than his brother's doing

(04:33):
his events. This is gonna be a rivalry and naughtiness.
Oh sit back and pass me the popcorn please, which
brings us to our whole question of the day. Harry
might get his legal security back in Britain. If he does,
whose court would you rather be part of? Would you
rather be part of William's Royal Court or is Royal Court.

(04:54):
Let me know you can get to our Twitter page
had Naughty nine rob our facebook page is Naughty Gossip.
I'm he sure as check that to morrow to hear
your results. Hey, Donny Love, what are you working on? Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, we have a new duo at the Today's Show.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Shanil Jones is joining Jenna bush Hagar. Now, look, it's fabulous.
I actually really happened to love me some, Shanil, but
not a bit of a rule.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Everyone else there feels like they were gas lit because
it was what it's been over a year, right, They've
been have a bunch of filling guest hos.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I kind of thought maybe the job was gonna go
to Tyra, but that was just me and I know
that Tara's on the list of feeling a little slighted.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Because I think the thing is is behind the scenes.
If they keep asking you to show up, Hey, hey,
can you guess host guests? Host guests? You're thinking your
job could be mine?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah? Tya filling from Australia. She was on a flight
for like twenty four hours. She sent me from Australia
where she lives now for that job. It is a
little naughty here. So I reported that Chanell had got
this job a year ago and because of the heartbreaking
situation with her family, her husband dying, and she took
time off rightly. So there was no rush here. But
it really was Chanell's job. Had Chanell's family not been
hit by such tragedy, she would have got the job

(06:14):
in a month. But the problem the show had is
they had to fill this seat for, as you said, Donnie,
almost a year. And so what I would have done
is everybody that came in I would have said, you're
just a temporary guest today, Chanell's got the job. Don't
tell anyone. We're not going to announce it yet. But
when Andy Cohen filled in, and it's not your job.
When bowieen Yang Force his name and his friend Matt,

(06:36):
he was very handsome. He was on the show a lot.
He thought it was there's a really cute guy from
E News who now I don't think works at he's
got rid of their news division. Sylvester. Nobody who works
at it. Sylvester somebody a very very cute, funny guy.
I think he thought it was his. They did lead
people on a little bit here. They didn't need to.
They could have said, like, you just come and hang

(06:58):
out for the week, co host for the week, but
you know, it's not really a job that's open. We've
got so you didn't even have to tell me who,
but we've got someone internally in mind. It drives me
nuts because I've interviewed for jobs that were not really available.
You see them listed, and then you interview and you
do a lot of work and a lot of preparation,
and then somebody at the company's like, we're gonna hire internally.

(07:18):
And I was like, were you always and they sort
of were like, yes, but we had to legally advertise
this job. So it does sort of like rub me
a little bit of the wrong way. I'm glad Schnell's
gone it. She's gorgeous, she's fabulous. I think it's going
to be a great show together. She always had it.
If I'm reporting this six months ago, I'm a good reporter,
but I'm not that good. I knew six months ago.
So if a rob shooter that was they knew, they

(07:40):
knew inside the Today Show, and they did lead Scarlett
Johansson co hosted Brookes. She she wanted that job. She
was good, she wanted that job. That Bowin Yanko, I
love in Wicked. He want his friend what's his name,
Matt He was that he thought he had got Andy
Cohen thought he had got that job. Now, all along

(08:02):
it was Chanelle. Congratulations to Chanelle. But there is a
little bit of daughter to s there, which I love. Okay,
moving along, Pam Anderson is still still maintaining that she
did have a romance with Liam Neison that is now over.
It was all a publicity's stunt. I told you at
the time. I told you before that. Pam is on
the cover of People magazine and she's saying they did
have a few lost weeks together. After they finished filming.

(08:23):
She went to visit him. She stayed at his beautiful
little hot his his chateau, his little cabin in the woods,
and oh it's beautiful. But now they've decided that, you know,
it wasn't meant to be. It never was anything. This
goes back to the beginning of the film industry. When
publicists want to get a little attention for their movies,

(08:45):
they leak that the co stars are together. I'm shocked
that Liam Neeson played along with this. He doesn't strike
me as somebody that does a pres stunt. He's not
a Kardashian, he's not a real housewife, but apparently he is.
The two of them played along. We knew it was
true because we've seen no pictures of them together. They
made this movie a year ago. They don't make movies yesterday.

(09:05):
They make them a year before we get to see them,
and in that year, we've not seen one photograph of
them together. So if they were a couple, you see
them out together. That's what Ariana's problem is with Ethan.
We know they're over. There's no pictures of them together.
If there was still a couple after the Wicked premiere,
would see them at Burger King, or would see them
in a restaurant, or would see them with no pictures

(09:27):
at all. They're not together. They never were. I guess
it's hard for Pant just didn't that because it should
look like she really was sort of tacky. It look
like it she fooled us. I think the American people
and reporters, but readers and people that love celebrity gossip
like we do. Donnie, I'll put up with a lot
but I won't put up with you making a fool
of me when I think you are trying to pull

(09:48):
one over on me, or you think you're smarter than me,
or I'm like, oh, it's put me off both of
them a little bit. If I'm honest, where are you?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Well, there's the thing.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mean, we all knew it right after bat You
look at them and you got something something snapping. But
also even their two adults, if they were just hooking up, fine,
just say, you know, fine, we're over here.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
We're having hooking up occasionally. You know what, right, Liam's like,
you know what's Pamba Anderson? Of course I'm gonna hook
up with pame the chance to do what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Pamela's going through something though, because she also announced she
doesn't want to be Pamela Anderson anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I saw supposed to be Pamela. Pardon my I don't
My finish isn't very great. Heightening in beautiful, I'm.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Like, oh it's beautiful. It doesn't help.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The same ring.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Doesn't have the same rig. No, Palm's going through something.
She's going through something on the cover of People magazine
this week. But I think when you do those cover stories.
The reason you do them is to tell the truth.
I would have said I was terribly embarrassed. The studio
made us do it. Neither one of us really wanted to.
We did have a bit of a fling, and we
did have a bit of a kiss, but it never
was the loves of our lives and I'm sorry I

(10:54):
did that. But no, Pam is insisting that they were
together at least for a few weeks. Okay, Moving along,
Timothy Shallabey and Kylie Jenner. There's been lots of rumors
that they were broken up. I told you he absolutely
is not true. And now we have the receipts. What's happening.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, I mean they didn't just, you know, want to
show that they were together.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
They doubled out. They showed up in matching orange outfits.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Like what right?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's like if that doesn't say we're still together, we're
sort of which, you know what.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'll give it to Timothy on this one, because as
we know, Timothy's not he's not a flair guy.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
He doesn't want me. He wasn't at christian Or's birthday party.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's not his vibe. He's not there to be part
of the Kardashian Hulu craziness. He doesn't want it, but
I think Kylie was like, look, do me.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
A favor here, wear this org, get up and show
up to this party with me, and we'll make a
day of it. And he did. He showed up and
he looked adorable. They looked adorable together, a.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Door smile on his face, smile on her face, and
they pulled it off. That Pamela and Liam is how
you do it.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's how you do. That's how you do. There were
some rumors last Oscars when he was up for the
Bob Dylan movie and a lot of people thought he
was going to win. He had a lot of advice
people saying, Kylie, Jenny is going to cost you the Oscar.
And when he started turning up at award shows with
her his people, people in the movie business were really
really cautious about it. Well, he has doubled down because

(12:24):
he's going to be up for an Oscar again. This
new movie that he's in is meant to be a sensation.
People are saying it's brilliant. Marty Supreme is the name
of it. They think he's going to get nominated again
for an Oscar. He could potentially win, and so conversations
have had about what's the Oscar campaign and should Kylie
be part of it? Should she not? Clearly he has

(12:45):
decided yes, your love her, You love you. Shouldn't you know?
I have good for it. Shouldn't have to hide it.
I like this. It's made me like him more because
it is easy to dismiss the Kardashians, the Jennas as
toxic as people in Hollywood that we don't care about.
Look what recently happened on Kim's TV show. It was awful.
It was the number one shown hon Hulu. It has
been renewed. Never count out a Kardashian thinking they hurt

(13:09):
rather than help is a little naive. Vogue magazine used
to think that they wouldn't let the Kardashian set the
met Ball. Then Anna figured out they're the biggest stars
in the world. If we have Kim at the met Ball,
pictures are going to go around the world. And so
I think, here it's easy to look down your nose
at Kylie Jenna. She has a billionaire. She made more
money selling lipstick than Timothy sh Charalama has made making movies,

(13:32):
and so joke on joke on us here. She is
not a distraction. She is not a hindrance. If he
uses her well here and when I say use her,
I say collaborate with her. Well, she's gonna help him
win that oscar rather than costing him any oscar. I'm
for this worthful love on the show, and we hate
fakness on the morn the night Show. So if you

(13:52):
wish somebody you stand up, as Wendy Williams used to say,
say it like your meanness, eh, miss Sweeden, say it.
Heck you Toddy. Very good. Okay, we're going to take
a quick break. We will be all right back. Welcome
back to the Naughty murn Nisham, your host from shoot
have their dear friend Donnie Meacham. Hey Donnie, let's get
to the last year we talked about Taylor Swift would

(14:16):
never steal another bride's wedding date. So there was a
river out there that Taylor had paid a ton of
money to a venue to cancel one wedding so she
could have her wedding there. I'm todd that is absolutely
not true. Taylor's been looking at venues and any venue
that would would leak this information in somewhere. She ain't
gonna get married out. Let's put it like that, and
so none of this is true. She would never do this.
She respects the girl code and somebody that booked a

(14:39):
wedding six months in advance and paid their deposit and
was looking forward to it. Taylor's not going to bully
herself in cancel. It's just not who she is here.
The venue probably would love to because they'd rather marry
Taylor Swift than anybody, but that is not who she
is here, and I love that about her. A question
was quite simple, would you if you could steal a date?

(14:59):
If you really want, I need to get married Donnie
on this date at this venue and it was booked
and the venue might be able to make that would
go away? Would you do it?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Naughty, it's your scandalous you were split here like I
would dare say, Donnie and I fifty to fifty one
person hosting the show would not do it. Me one
would Donnie? Am I right?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
If I were that day? Is there gonna accommodate it?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know?

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh, I'm so sorry about your wedding day, sweetie, but
I've been married this day.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
You're awful fifty to fifteen. Don't forget to have it
on today's Paul. We're going to a Twitter page had
naughty know He's room Facebook page is Naughty Gossip And
be sure to check out to my raur to hear
your results. And now it's time for the Nicest of
the day.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Oh always nice when we can make friends the nicest
of the day. So little story, So Elvis Durant from
Elvis Durant in the morning show on Z one hundred. So,
as you guys all know, I used to live in
New York and but when I first moved there many
years ago, I lived in Jersey. And in Jersey you

(16:11):
have a car, and every morning I would drive and
I would listen to Elvis on Z one hundred, and
I was obsessed and like, he's one of the reasons
why I wanted to get into radio. Wow, because you know,
we all you know us, we all we all knew
when we get go, you know what I'm saying. And
so I was like, but he just had such a

(16:31):
warmth and loveliness about it. And yesterday even nicer, so,
I mean, an A list guest couldn't show up. So
you know, Taylor was busy and booked, rubbing people's weddings
and ruin in their days.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So then he was like, Rob, why don't you come in?
Rob zoom down.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And he was up there. I did.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
But of course, here's the thing. It wasn't just to
talk about Gossa, because that's what Rob does. He talks
about cosa. You know, he gets out at No. It
was so he could just talk about his book.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
He was so honestly done. You're right. I got a
text from Elvis saying, come and do the show on Tuesday,
and I was like, great, I'll put together a list
of the gossips, I will talk about the royals, we'll
talk about Taylor's. It's like Rob, stop, he said, I
don't want you on working. I want you on as
a guest, and I'm going to interview you about your
book and we're going to sell this book. It started
with a whisper. So I turned up today and there's
a primetime slot on these shows, these shows that are

(17:26):
two or three hours long, there's a moment that's the
Lady gaggots. Yes, it's the Tom Cruise slot. It's the
slot that you give the a list guest too. I
got that slot thanks to Elvis Duran So for ten
fifteen minutes yesterday morning, I felt like a superstar. I
sold a ton of books, which is really really important
to me. If I don't sell this book, I'm not
going to get another book deal. So I really want

(17:46):
it to sell. And Elvis well above and beyond like it.
Just it's what you do to friends. If you have
the chance today, tomorrow, the next day to help a friend,
do it, do it, do it, do it, and it
just it makes my heart so so full. Thank you,
Elvis and Donnie, thank you for making Elvis the nicest
of the day. I know you're listening Elvis alloo looloa

(18:07):
now and not he's the day, naughty, naughty. So. Leonardo
DiCaprio is telling Time magazine why he doesn't want overexposure.
If you remember, whenever you see him out at a club,
at a bar, he's wearing that that cap that he
pulls down, and he's always liked of looking a bit grumpy,
and he doesn't want any press. Well, he's saying he
did that on purpose because he thought it would extend
his career. And so not to be in the spotlight

(18:30):
would mean you'd be able to believe him more as
an actor. My sources are telling me that might be
partially true. But the reason that he keeps himself to
himself is that his private life is messy. We've seen
the young models, we've seen the yut clubs. We've seen
him with some shady people. So it might be a
little bit of a pee on messy cheer that he

(18:50):
stays out of the spotlight because he wants to keep
some mystery about him being an actor. He also stays
out of the spotlight because if the spotlight'd shine on
him in a club, it might not be It might
not be the Leo you want to see. We we
go to or use to Donny to the clubs in
the we're invited by it by the owners, and whenever

(19:12):
there was a celebrity there, would always write about it.
The club would love it. It got them publicity. The
one celebrity that we were never allowed to write about
was Leo, And it's sort of like an unspoken word.
If you went to Tower Marquee and you saw Leo
there and you wrote about it, you'd never get back in.
They protected him. I don't know quite why, but he's
the one they will not ride about. Okay, let's end
with a moment of rub you rob. Sometime life shakes you,

(19:37):
not to break you, but to wake you. That uncomfortable jolt,
that's reality saying, pay attention. Stop waiting for the perfect
moment and the perfect plan. You have exactly what you
need right now. Feel the fear, feel it, lean into
the discomfort, and then move anyway. This isn't a punishment, Donnie,

(19:57):
It's a wake up call. So open your eyes, take
the next step, and watch yourself transform. The next time
you feel uncomfortable, life's gonna shake you, maybe today, maybe tomorrow.
Don't see that as our punishment. No, no, no, You
pay attention and that discomfort get used to it because
in that discomfort is where you will find the truth. Hey,

(20:19):
that is it for today. Thank you so much for
listening to The Naughty butN Nice with Robin Donna Show,
our production of our Friend Elvis Dauran and iHeartRadio. Don't
forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts wherever
you listen, leave us a review if you can. They
really do help and remember altogether. And now let me
hear you singing along. If you're going to be you've

(20:40):
got to be let me hear you. Nice guys, take
care everybody.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
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