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September 1, 2025 21 mins

Prince Harry sparks palace outrage with plans for a Netflix film about Diana, Justin Bieber’s sneaker line collapses after he’s injured in his own shoes, and Wendy Williams dreams of a comeback that insiders say can never happen. Fame, fortune, and fallout — all in one episode.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Bye for sure. It's time and love and love and low.
Welcome to the Naughty Ni Sham your host, Ram Shoes.
I'm still in Great Britain. I'm heading home tonight, so
we'll be back tomorrow with missus d back to normal.
Thank you so much for listening the past week. It's

(00:29):
been very stressful. I'm at home. My dad was hospitalized.
He seems to be doing much better, in fact, so
much better that I'm heading back home today to New York.
I can't wait to see Darby, to see Bruce, and
to get back to doing the not even my show
the way that it's meant to be done with all

(00:49):
my lovely co hosts and not ease, You've always been
the co hosts of this show. Let's jump in, shall we?
Right now? What time is it, my friends? It is
tea time. So on twenty eighth anniversary of the Princess
of Wales, Princess Diana passing, we have breaking news out
of London. Prince Harry is in talks with Netflix to

(01:12):
make a movie about his mommy. So Prince Harry is
reaching for that one story that is guaranteed to make headlines,
money and get people watching. It's the story of his
late mother. Insiders tell me that the Duke of Sussex
is in advanced talks with Netflix to produce a dramatic

(01:35):
feature film about his mom, Princess Diana, a high stakes
gamble to salvage his struggling Hollywood deal. One insider tells
me quote, it's the ultimate card to play. Nothing sells
like Diana. If Harry can package her story into a movie,

(01:56):
Netflix will keep him and Megan on the payroll. This
is the hit that they need to survive now. As
you can imagine, rumors of this are bubbling around London.
They have made themselves known inside the halls of Buckingham
Palace and now courtiers are very very angry about it,

(02:17):
saying William is particularly outraged. To him, their mother's memory
is sacred, not a bargaining chip in a business deal.
Now that business deal is so important here. Harry and
Meghan originally got about one hundred million dollars from Netflix
in a contract, but they didn't really deliver much. In fact,

(02:37):
everything they did deliver unfortunately underperformed for them. Meghan's lifestyle
series Nobody's watching It's Harry's documentary about Polo. Nobody really
is watching that at all, even lower numbers on that.
In fact, the only big thing they've had two big
things since they left the family, two big hits. His
book a monstrously successful or book, and the interview they

(03:02):
did with Oprah was massive. Neither one, though, was part
of the Netflix deal. So Netflix is bothered that I
hang on a minute. Clearly, you've got a story that
people want to listen to it, You've got a story
to tell, but you didn't do it with us. You
did it with Oprah. That's strange, isn't it should have
been on Netflix? And this book, Why wasn't he doing

(03:23):
this book telling these stories in a Netflix show? No,
he did this with a book publisher and they did
not see a penny. Well, they have renewed their contract
with Netflix, sort of, it's not one hundred million dollar contract.
In fact, now Netflix only pays them, only gives them
money if they sign on to a project. So it's

(03:44):
called a first look deal. What that means is when
Harry and Megan have an idea, they give the first
look to Netflix, and netflixays yes or no, And if
they don't think anyone's gonna watch, if they don't think
they're gonna make any money, they say no. If they
think it's a great idea, they say, yeah. Well, a documentary,
a film, a program, a series about Princess Diana produced

(04:06):
by Prince Harry her son that they think would be
really really big. Now let me tell you, let me
get really deep here into why the monarchy is so
upset about this. This would drag Charles and Camilla and
the entire family back into the spotlight at the worst
possible time. So for decades the Windsors have been trying
to get past Princess Diana. Harry doing a Diana movie

(04:31):
would undermine all that. They have worked really hard, Charles
the family to make sure Camilla is now an accepted part.
She's queen. Camilla is something she said she would never
be when they first got married. She said she would
never ever be queen. Well she is. She is queen,
and that just goes to show you, over the last
twenty eight years since the death of Diana, how the

(04:52):
family has really pivoted, has had a really strategic pr
campaign to welcome Camillary in let's not beat around the
bush here. Camilla was the other woman. Diana said that
Camilla was the third person in the relationship. She even
attended their wedding. Can you imagine that? And so this
is just a really ugly part of the Windsor history.

(05:13):
They've glossed over it, and I think to a certain extent,
in fact, a really large extent, they've been very, very
successful at doing that. Camilla has been accepted. They do
not want people reminded about the affairs, about the cheating,
about a really ugly time in the House of Windsor. Well,
Harry might be about to do all that. One source

(05:34):
said to me really bluntly. It stopped me in my tracks.
They said, quote, Harry is playing the Diana card because
it's the only one he has left. Harry and Meghan
have really tried to make it in Hollywood in America
by doing their own projects. Nobody is that interested in them.
What they're interested in is the family that they belong to.

(05:56):
If Harry and Meghan were not part of the royal family,
we wouldn't be talking about them today. But they are
and they always will be, even if they've stepped away
from it. And it's complicated because a lot of people
here in Britain are really angry with Harry and Meghan
and they're saying, how dare he tell this story? How
dare he quote play the Diana card? But let me

(06:16):
remind everybody, it's his mom. Doesn't he have a right
to do that. If anyone has a right to tell
their parents' story, it's the kids. And there's been so
many movies, so many TV specials, so many documentaries about
Diana that the kids have never been part of. In fact,

(06:36):
it's not just that they've not been part of them,
they've not profited from them. That sounds like a vulgar words,
doesn't it. But if somebody was making money from my mom,
my mom's legacy, shouldn't it be me? All these producers
they're not making Diana documentaries and movies because they want
to educate the world. It's a business. They're making them

(06:57):
to make money. Hundreds of millions, if not billions of
dollars have been made off Diana, off her legacy. Shouldn't
that money go to the suns. Something's happening in America
that's quite similar at the moment. There's going to be
a new series about the Kennedys and Jack Schlosberg, who

(07:17):
is the grandson of JFK. The President JFK. His only
grandson is really speaking out saying this is not your
story to tell. Ryan Murphy, that's who's making the Kennedy documentary,
the Kennedy series. And so I think Harry here, if
anyone has the rights to make a Diana movie Diana documentary,

(07:38):
forget how you feel about Harry, if you feel he's
betrayed the UK, or if you love him. Doesn't he
have the right to tell his mom's story. Isn't it
better for Harry to tell it than some filmmaker, than
Steven Spielberg or somebody that barely knows and maybe never
ever met her. I think there's a really interesting debate

(07:58):
conversation to have here. Who owns the right of your story?
If I wanted to do a story about a celebrity
I know, is that my right or is it the
family's right? Which brings us to our pole question, A
really good pole question of the day. Harry is already
in advanced talks with Netflix to produce a dramatic feature

(08:19):
film about his mommy, Princess Diana. We say, mummy here, mummy,
m m m y, mummy Princess Diana. Does Harry have
the rights to tell his own mother's story. What do
you think? Does he have the right, not the right,
not the legal rights. Does he have the moral right
to tell his own mother's story? Hey? Go vote's complicated today,

(08:44):
isn't it? Yes or no? Go vote on our Twitter
page at naughtonized Ram facebook page is naughty gossip and
be sure to check that tomorrow where I will give
you the results from New York. Okay, moving along, just
In deebasnek a brand has collapsed after he was injured
wearing his own shoes. Well that can't be good. So

(09:07):
what should have been Justin Bieber's big moment has turned
into a nightmare. Sources are telling me the thirty one
year old star his sneaker line is in crisis after
Justin admitted he rolled his ankle while wearing a pair
of his own shoes. Of Justin, shut up, he said
the following quote, discontinuing the clunky sould sides he's talking

(09:32):
about his own shoes. Let me remind you rolled my
ankle two hazardous. He put that on Instagram, effectively killing
his own product in real time. Sources tell me this
is a pr nightmare when your founder, the founder trashes
the product. The game is over, So retails are panicking

(09:55):
buyers who's stocked up on his debut collection and now
fearing they're going to be left with dead inventory. The
credibility has absolutely gone, sources say, quote, if Justin says
they're unsafe, which he did, why would fans risk buying
them now? The timing could not be worse. His latest

(10:15):
album has already dropped out of iTunes top fifty, and
the sneaker line was meant to sort of reposition him
as a lifestyle mogul. This was meant to be a
second act. Instead, it is a punch line. Oh Justin,
How silly, how arrogant? How just destructive? And that's the word,

(10:37):
isn't it. It's self destructive. That's something Justin has a long,
long history of doing. Moving along, our old friend Wendy
Williams would love to come back to TV, but a
health struggles and making it impossible. So there's new reports
out there that Wendy does not want to return to TV.
She's done with that, she's moved onto other stuff. It's

(10:58):
just simply not true. And I last saw all she
talked about was returning to TV. Friends who have seen
her recently said she'd love to be back on TV.
She dreams of being on TV. When she meets people,
she always asks him, I saw her do this. Did
you see the Wendy Williams show. I'm Wendy Williams. She's
so proud of it. So she still dreams of a big,
grand return, but insiders tell me it's never going to happen.

(11:22):
The sixty year old Queen of Talk we can call her,
that revolutionized daytime gossip and away in a way that
we all fell in love with it. I've got to
be armist. Wendy's a little bit meaner than I am,
a little bit more cheeky than I am. But I
did love watching the first twenty minutes of her show,
where she just did a monologue. Wendy sat in the
famous purple chair. I've sat in that chair. When I

(11:45):
said her apartment, She's got the chair in her apartments,
And I was like, can I sit on the throne
Queen Wendy. She chuckled away and said, of course, you cad.
I loved it at her place. Well, Wendy would sit
on that throne, and she reinvented this. So much of
this podcast, the naughty but nice show tips that the hat.
I tipped top our hat to the Wendy Williams Show
the first twenty minutes of her show. It's basically our

(12:07):
entire podcast. It's twenty minutes of celebrity gossip. It's naughty
and it's nice, and I think too. Wendy Maid did
okay for us all to admit we love a little
bit of gossip, a little bit of naughty bit noise gossip.
It used to be embarrassing, didn't It used to be
a bad thing to say you loved gossip. Oh, don't
talk to them, They're a gossip not true. Gossip can

(12:29):
be great. It doesn't have to be negative. We can
stand up and say I love chatting, giggling, sharing information
about my friends. In fact, if nobody ever talked about you,
I think that's much worse than everybody chattering away. I'm
a nosy person. I'm a curious person. I love people.
I don't do this because I hate people. I do

(12:50):
it because I love them. I love gossiping, talking chatting
with my friends, not about mean stuff, about really lovely
stuff like oh do you see her new shoes? Or
a friend got engaged. I had a baby. Oh, we
knit and natter about one another all day. Wendy gave
us that she would love to be back, and there's
lots of interest in a new TV show. Wendy's name
still sells and she could really, really really come back

(13:14):
with a major show, except she's not there mentally physically,
the early mornings, the daily pressure, the stress, her health
just won't allow it. I think her lawyer said, she's
now going to focus on other stuff, really on helping
people advert to see work. She wants to get out
there and talk about the guardianship system. That's something that

(13:36):
we don't really talk about enough. And so Wendy hopes
to make a return, but it won't be. It won't
be to TV. Last time I was with her, and
it was about a year ago, she just clearly wasn't
in a mental state with her dementia and everything else
going on with her physically, it just was going to
be impossible TV. When I had my talk show for

(13:56):
three years on VH one, it was exhausting. I know
that sounds nuts. I wouldn't have believed it if I
hadn't lived it, I would have been like, Oh, it's
so easy, it's so much fun. It was a real
grind and so Wendy, I know what you're feeling. Okay,
The Bachelor, the Golden Bachelor is coming back soon, but
ABC can't get rid of the old Bachelor, Jerry. Jerry

(14:18):
Turner just won't go away. Sources tell me that ABC
executives are literally worn out with the seventy two year
old retiree who is refusing to step out of the spotlight. Jerry.
He's constantly pitching them new shows and specials, and every
single idea stars him. Naturally, He honestly still sees himself

(14:42):
as a leading man. The problem the audience has moved on,
sources tell me. Quote it's giving Bethany Frankel energy. Bethany
was a former Real housewife that just will not go away.
She made a ton of money selling a vodka drink,
one of these drinks, and now she still needs the attaate.
So she's always on TikTok, She's always pitching shows, She's

(15:02):
always pitching ideas about herself. How Bethany could return and
make all this money and be successful. They're saying that
Jerry is the new Bethany, always demanding airtime, always stir
in the part and always selling himself. When these shows end,
it's over. I've met I know a lot of reality stars,

(15:23):
and they never think it's going to end. They think
that this fabulous thing. They've always wanted their whole lives
to be famous, to be relevant, for people to know
them for better or words they love. The attention goes
away the minute the show does, and that's a very
very difficult transition. That's why we see so many of
these former reality stars saying controversial things online on TikTok

(15:45):
on Instagram, all to get attention Jerry, even though he's
in his golden stage of life. No. Different people don't change,
do they are who they are? Okay, we're going to
take a quick break and we will be right back.
Welcome back to the nor Even I show them your
host and she would say, hey, let's get to the

(16:07):
polls Da Da Da So King, Charles Queen, Camiller, Prince
William and Kate Middleton are not watching Meghan's news series
on Netflix, Part two of her cooking lifestyle show, The
fab Four not watching it. They did watch season one,
they're aware of it. They have not bothered to watch
this season. Neither have a lot of people, though it's
not just the Royals here. Let's be honest. The numbers

(16:28):
on this show are really bad. I watched the first season.
I enjoyed it. I watched the second season because it
was my job, but I didn't enjoy it. It felt
like work. In fact, if I wasn't in the royal business,
the entertainment business, I probably would have stopped after the
first episode, which it looks like a lot of you did.
Our question was pretty simple, are you watching what about you? Norties?

(16:49):
We do so much royal news. You love the royal news,
We love talking about the Royals. Are you watching Meghan's show? Wow?
Seventy percent said no, you're not watching the show. Wow.
I'm with you. Naughty's. I didn't think it'd be quite
that high, but I'm with you. Hey, don't forget to
vote on Today's Paul. Go to our Twitter page. It's

(17:10):
a really good question today. Does Harry have the right
the right to tell his mummy's story? He is her son,
So if there's going to be a Diana story, and
there is, there's already been so many of them, there
are a cash cow. Shouldn't it be Harry's turn to
tell his side of this story. Hey, go vote on
our Twitter page at Naughty Nice rob Our facebook page

(17:30):
is a Naughty gossip and be sure to check back
tomorrow when I will be back home. I sound like
I'm celebrating it too much. I don't want you to
think I'm desperate to leave my family. It has been
a magical ten days. But as Dorothy said in the
Wizard of Us, there's no place like home, No place
like home. Okay, let's do a nice at the day

(17:50):
and nicest of the day. This is Dayla Swift and
Britney Mahomes. I think I'm pronouncing that right because they're
putting their friendship first and keeping politics off the table.
So Brittany is at celebrating her birthday. She invited Taylor Swift.
They have very different political beliefs, but they can still
be friends, and sources tell me the secret is simple.

(18:11):
They never talk politics. Sources tell me quote they know
they don't agree on everything, but they respect each other
enough to leave politics at the door, and that's why
it works. The women have become inseparable since Taylor started
to date Travis Kelsey, which has now been two years.
From cheering together in the VIP suites with champagne flowing

(18:34):
at birthday parties. They've each become very close to one another,
and insider tells me quote, Taylor has built her career
writing about friendships and loyalties. That's a bond that transcends politics.
It's all about friendship with Taylor. They have an unspoken
pact to not talk about politics. They're about fun friendship,

(18:56):
not seeing n versus Fox News, not MSNBC versus News Max. No, no, no,
this is about being friends, and insiders are telling me
it's proof that friendship doesn't need to be filtered through
party lines. It has been a really challenging time for
both sides in America around the world. But I think

(19:17):
we can all be civil, we can be friends. I
have people that really disagree with a lot of things
that I hold so dear and near to my heart,
and initially I sort of gave them a cold shoulder.
There were several friends, several people I really liked that
I stayed away from a little bit because we just
disagreed so much. Taylor has shown us all Taylor and Brittany,

(19:40):
you don't have to agree on politics to be friends.
I think that's nice and nicest the day. And now
I say, do you know Norty Poor Ashley Simpson, who
I used to work for, is furious that Jessica Simpson,
her sister, has upstaged her big comeback. So ash is
in Vegas doing some some concerts, not that many at
the Venetian Hotel, really trying to get her music vibe.

(20:01):
Batter's singing lots of her old songs. It's almost like
a legacy act now, but people loved those songs twenty
years ago. So she's doing this residency. I think it's
a small room that she's doing, not one of those
massive Taylor Swift Beyonce type rooms. But she was really
excited about it. I know Ashley really really well. I
guess who turned up with sister. Jessica sat in the
front row with her a strange husband, Eric Johnson, and

(20:23):
suddenly the spotlight shifted. Oh oh a ash Ley, and
what is the day? Let's end with a moment of
rob you rub, you gonna ubb a good rob. Don't
wish for it, work for it, wish you won't get
you there, wishing won't change your life. Work well, every rep,
every late night, every I'll try again tomorrow. That's the

(20:44):
difference between people who dream and people who do. Stop
waiting for luck, start waiting for a miracle, roll up
your sleeves and earn it. Because dreams don't come true
when you wish hard enough, They come true when you
refuse to quit. Hey, that is it for today. Thank

(21:04):
you so much for listening to the Naughty but Nice
Brother and then Naught Show. You're the co host today.
Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast
wherever you're ever you listen, leave us a review, and
remember altogether. Now let me hear you singing along. If
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