In the wake of the devastating deaths of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Singer Reiner, family friends paint a heartbreaking portrait of two parents defined by unconditional love. Sources tell me the couple would have forgiven their son Nick “one hundred percent, without question,” even in the face of the unthinkable. At the same time, insiders say Nick long felt crushed by the weight of the Reiner name, resentful of living in the shadow of both his legendary father and grandfather, Carl Reiner. Close friend Maria Shriver echoed that complexity in an emotional tribute, remembering Rob and Michele as parents who “never stopped trying to be great,” no matter how difficult the journey became
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Advice, sugar, it's never lovell Welcome to the Naughty but
Night Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and it it's Tuesday,
which means a dear friend. Delana Dixon joins us, Hey,
mis d are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am, and it seems we finally got snow here
in New York.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's lovely, isn't it. I love looking at I'm quite
high up. I'm on the fifteenth floor and so it
feels like I'm in a snow globe bibe upstairs, and
the snow's whishing, whishing around my windows. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, I was in Kentucky for a few days and
it actually snow there, So that was the first place
that I saw snow for the season. And then I
came back here and it was snowy as well. So
it's just been a snowy weekend into the snowy week
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Good for you, you're bringing it with you. Okay, let's
jump into our show. What time is it, my friends?
It is tea time massive story today is Rob Reiner
and his wife Michelle. Most of the show today, in fact,
all the show is going to focus on this tragedy
it's an absolute tragedy. I want to make sure we
get the tone right here. Delana and I are devastated.
Let's just put that upfront. This is something that is unimaginable,
(01:22):
not only the death, but who may have indeed murdered them.
We're going to try and bring you as all the
information today so you won't have to go anywhere else
for this story. So Rob Reiner and his wife would
want us to forgive their sile It's controversial. I wanted
to do this as the lead story. I've known this
family for a while. Rob was always very very kind
(01:43):
to me. Well. I spoke to family friends yesterday and
they said forgiveness was a huge deal for Rob and
his wife Michelle, and they would want us in their opinion,
this is a family insider. They would want us to
forgive him for this one hundred percent without question. He
was a very, very troubled, not so young man. We
(02:05):
keep saying son. Obviously he was his son, but he
was in his thirties. He had struggled all his life
mental health issues, substance issues, but he also too had
this incredible life of privilege. He never really had to
work a day in his life. He didn't pay really
any of his bills, all his medication, all his many
many trips to rehab were covered by his parents fortune.
(02:28):
And if indeed it turns out and everything, let's be honest,
looks as if it was him. All the indications are
pointing towards the son, this gruesome, ugly, terrifying death. It
is so easy to be angry. I'm angry. I'm really
angry about this. But when I spoke to this family source, Delena,
(02:49):
I wasn't expecting this, and it stopped me in my tracks.
Rob has been an outspoken advocate of people with mental
health issues. He's always talked about love. If you watch
any of his movies, that's his body of work. People
always say to us, Delna, what's this celebrity really like?
What they're like when they're not on TV, when they're
(03:09):
not in film. I tell everybody, if you want to
know who Rob Browner was is I want to keep
it in the present tense, just for a few weeks.
If you want to know this man, watch his body
of work. It's full of optimism. Originally, the opening of
the closing of Harry met Sally, How that movie ends,
How that movie closes, he wasn't going to get the girl.
(03:33):
And then during the filming of the movie, he met Michelle,
his wife. He met her while he was making that movie,
and he changed the ending because his story ended differently.
He was no longer single, he was in love. And
so I think so much of this man's work was
about his own personal life. Just that was one example
(03:54):
on Harry met Sally. But he was an optimist. If
you watched his films The Princess Briane, they were full
of rome, full of love, full of forgiveness. And so
this is a very very difficult way I know to
start the show today, but I have not stopped thinking
about it. His parents would want us to forgive him.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, Rob, I think you've said it all. And
when you mentioned the movies The Princess brian when Harry
met Sally, they truly are about love and forgiveness. And
when you watch them and you walk away from those films,
you have a sense of hope. And I think that's
what was happening for these parents, this family, that they
always had a sense of hope for their son, that
(04:36):
somehow he would be able to overcome his demons, overcome
his addiction and find peace. And it's incredibly sad. I
mean reading this news and all the other news that
happened over the weekend. We will not go into it,
but we know there was a lot of violence that
happened this weekend and it's just so incredibly sad that
(05:00):
this happened. And I'm sure from what we've been reading
and from what we've been hearing, that the sign is
now kind of having a moment of realizing what he's done,
and the regret and the shame must be just overwhelming.
But my heart just goes out. I mean when my sister,
who doesn't really know what's going on in the show
(05:21):
business world, rates me and goes, oh, my goodness, Rob
Reiner is dead.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You know this has touched people.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's touched people. I think it's a combination.
I was on CNN last night talking about my experiences
working with Rob Ryan or interviewing him, being around him,
but we also talked about what makes this story so
tragic and the story that everybody is talking about just
a few days before Christmas, the first night of Hanukah
is the night that he was slaughtered. Is not only
(05:51):
somebody as plific somebody as successful as him dying, that
would be big news. If he had a heart attack
and died, we'd be talking about Rob Bryaner today, just
because his body of work is so massive. Why this
story is something we can't get away from is the
(06:11):
method in which he died. It wasn't a heart attack.
He was murdered. He was murdered along with his wife, Michelle.
They were slaughtered. There was one one killer. This means
that one of these people watched their spouse get slaughtered.
We're hearing from police sources that their throats were slipped.
(06:36):
Once again, we try so hard to be a positive,
happy podcast, and we will find something, something in this
story so that we can hold onto some hope here.
And for me, it's the love of these parents. They
knew he was troubled, They knew Nick needed a lot
of help. They tried to give him help. They loved him.
(07:00):
His dad made a movie with him. He was a
struggling screenwriter. His dad's one of the most successful directors, actors,
producers of all time, and so they made a movie
together where I'm told they became much closer. Last night,
while I was on TV talking about Rob, I was
in a green room with somebody who had interviewed father
and son together, and he said his dad knew, Rob
(07:24):
knew that Nick was troubled, and he also too. Was
very difficult for Nick, who wanted to be in show business,
to have a father and a grandfather who were giants.
You were never ever going to step out of their shadow.
And none of this is excusing what this young man did.
I don't want anyone to think that for a minute,
(07:45):
but I'm trying to understand it from the perspective here
of his parents. And once again inside us, tell me
if they had survived this, they would have forgiven him,
and even in death. I was told by a very
very close family source, they'll find peace with this. They
(08:05):
love love their son. We're not going to do a
pole question today. We never do a pole question when
it's on a tragedy. It just doesn't feel right. So
let's move ahead, mister. Another story here that I think
is so interesting, and we just touched on it a
little bit. The legacy of this family was really really difficult,
it seems for Nick.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, as you spoke, I mean, his father was incredibly
famous as an actor, as a writer, as a director,
and that can be challenging for a child. But then
add his grandfather, Carl Reiner, who.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Was also an actor.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
An author, a comedian, a director, a screenwriter. He had
Primetime Emmy Awards, Grammy Awards, he won the Mark Twain
Prize for American Humor. So Nick had quite a bit
to live up to. And so a lot of people
say he struggled in that shadow, and he really resented
his dad and hated him himself for not being as
(09:01):
talented or as prolific. And this is perception, right, of course.
I mean, everyone has talents, everyone is prolific in their
own rights, but this is the way he felt. So
he just kind of struggled with this. And of course
he publicly battled his drug addiction for more than half
his life. And he previously co wrote the semi auto
(09:25):
the semi autobiographical film Being Charlie, like you said, inspired
by his repeated stints in rehab and directed of course
by his father. But he was just so consumed by
those demons to the point where what was inside came
out and showed up through his hand and his violence.
(09:47):
It's just it's just so incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
It breaks my heart.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I hear I hear it and you've voice, mister. I
met Nick in La five or six years ago. He
was working on a project and he wanted some advice
and we went to a coffee shop and he was charming.
He was funny and happy. However, when his family's name
came up, which of course I mentioned, he turned. You
(10:14):
could see his expression turn. And let's be honest, misty,
I was meeting with him because of who his father
and his grandfather were. If a struggling screenwriter in LA
who didn't happen to be a Rhiner or a Spielberg
or one of the major families of Hollywood, if they
had texted me or called me or tried to set
up a meeting, probably might not have happened. Pretty busy
(10:36):
when I'm in LA for a few days, But of
course I wanted to meet Rob Ryaner's son. I wanted
to be around that world, and so if I was
feeling that, he was feeling that too. He knew while
why people were talking to him, and that can be
really heavy. That can be really heavy. We talk about
(10:57):
stars who have children on this show a lot and
how difficult it is not just for the child but
for the star. Rob in this amazing film. They did.
Rob's role as the father was him. That's how he felt.
He was confused. He couldn't understand it. Later on, Rob
said that they were listening to the medical professionals and
(11:18):
not listening to their son. And you gotta listen to everybody.
It's just such a tragic, Shakespearean tragic story. Moving along,
we found out that Nick actually destroyed his parents' home
in a drug filled rage. So Nick made this confession
in twenty eighteen on a podcast and he talked about
(11:41):
ripping apart his parents' home. He said, I went ten
rounds in the guest house. What had happened is he
was coming down from a drug binge and his parents
pretty much locked him in their guesthouse on their property.
That property is worth about twelve fourteen million. Brentwood is
a name age a major part of la and so
(12:03):
a lot of a lot of the big houses there
have pools and a little guest house. It's like a
pool house normally like a studio or one bedroom. They'd
put him in there. He was homeless for a long time,
so they put him in there. He destroyed it. But
what do you do do you have him committed. What
at what point do you run out of options? If
(12:24):
this was in your family, and it could be These
mental health struggles, these drug addictions are not just for
the stars, Misty, It's happening all over America, all over
the world. What could they do? And that's what friends
are asking today, What could have they done? Tragic mistakes?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean that is such a challenging question. It's so complex.
I mean we think, oh, my goodness, I would never
have this person in my house. I'd make them, you know,
try to figure it out themselves. I'd put them in
a place where they deal with it. But this is
your child. And I've heard from family friends who are
(13:04):
going through this, that have a family member who who
is battling a drug addiction that even though they see
it that way, the parents of their of their child,
or the parents that they know can't let go of
the child, still gives them money, gives them the car,
gives them the phone, because their biggest fear is that
one day they'll pick up that phone or answer that
(13:26):
phone call and it will be somebody telling them that
their child is.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
No longer with them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And we always know that there's and I don't have children.
But from what I've heard, there's nothing more heartbreaking than
losing your child. Having your child go before you.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Is something that's just so hard to imagine.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So I think they thought, you know, we're gonna give him,
you know, we've locked him in this in this house
so he can deal with it. But at a certain point,
I think when it gets when it's when he's shown
violence and he's shown what he's done. And they were
older people. At a certain point you have to seek
(14:06):
outside help, and you know, you're a celebrity. You don't
want the world knowing about your troubles. But now we
do know, and it's just so horrific and horrible how
it ended. But I think it's just the love of
their son. They just wanted to give them whatever they
could try to help him, and it just it just never.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Rasio donalds struggling with this at the moment. Rosio donald
daughter has been in the night to rehab. Now she's
in jail, and so it is not as unusual as
I wish it was. We're finding out too that just
hours before the tragic passing, there was a huge fight
to blow up at Conan O'Brien's holiday party. So Conan
had a party at his house in the Hills. It
(14:47):
was a fabulous party. I know a couple of people
at that party and they said there was a huge confrontation.
Rob Ryaner and his wife Michelle left. It was a
huge argument with Nick. Everybody was very, very uncomfortable. But
once again, what do you do? This thirty two year
old kid screaming is not a kid, he's grown man,
he's thirty two years old. This thirty two year old
guy screaming at his parents, screaming at them in front
(15:08):
of their colleagues, in front of their contemporaries, in front
of their friends. And so the parents left, and then
Robert Michelle were beside themselves. I also hear too that
Conan is feeling lots of guilt today too. Everybody's asking,
everybody is asking, what could I have done different? I mean, okay,
(15:28):
we're going to take a quick, great mistake and we
will be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nisha.
I'm your host, Rob Shooter with I dear friend, mister, hey, mister,
let's quickly get to the polls. DA Da Lasher revealed
a great exclusive that Blake Lively did reach out to
Taylor Swift to wish her a happy birthday. It was
Taylor's birthday over the weekend. I hear it was a
(15:50):
small email or a text. She didn't expect any return.
We don't know if Taylor answered. I like this even people, mister.
I was thinking, I don't fall out with that many people.
A lot of people fall out with me because of
what I said. But I really don't fall out with
that many people. But I do wish people even that.
I've got a little bit of drama with happy birthday.
I reach out if there's it's been a big event
(16:11):
and you just say happy birthday, and so you know
you're not expecting to be best friends again or go
for coffee. But a friend of mine, her father died,
and I sent her a text. I think technically we
were not speaking or would fell out, but a dad
had died, so I was like, I'm so so sorry,
I just heard the news. She didn't respond perfectly fine,
but I think this was a nice thing for Blake
(16:32):
to do. Here. A question was simple, would you reach
out if you were having beef with a friend. If
you'd fell out with a friend and it was their birthday,
don't you just reach out and say happy birthday. What
do you think here? Eighty percent said, yes, you would,
you would reach out me too, naughty, He's okay, don't
forget to vote, although actually this part of the show
is voyage. Do forget to vote? There is no poll today, mystery,
(16:55):
There is no poll. It just didn't feel right.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
What my question? I ask?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, No, it just didn't feel right. So let's go
straight And this is tricky, but I think we found
one here. Let's go straight to nicest, a difficult one,
but it's still a nicest of the day.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, it is our nicest.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So we're gonna talk about Maria Shreiver because once she
had heard this news, of course, she gave an emotional
tribute and just talking about how loving, how good Rob
and Michelle.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Were as parents.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
She stated, they love their kids so much and they
never stopped trying to be really good parents. She's devastated, gutted, shocked,
and stunned by the laws. She recalled raising their children together,
meaning her and that family sharing decades of laughter, tears
and milestones. And she actually told us that she just
(17:49):
had dinner with Robin Michelle about a week before their death.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The couple.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
At that time, we were in a joyful chapter in
their life. They were deeply in love, proud of their family,
and passionate about making the world a better place. And
she ended it by saying that their friendship was a
gift and something that she'll just remember and cherish and
remember them as kind and fun and patriotic and deeply loving,
(18:15):
even to the point of loving their son, even he
took their lives as.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep deep. Maria Shreiver nicest that day,
and I not he is the day, naughty, naughty, naughty,
I know, dear stuff the day. And I'm not going
to give out any names here, but it's people who
are saying awful things online. A man has died, his
wife has died, They were slaughtered in their home by
their son. If you think this is a moment to
(18:44):
make fun of them, to make fun of their political views,
to make fun of them as who they are as parents,
to blame them, then shame on you. I don't care
if you're talking about Rob Reiner or Charlie Kirk. These
are people from opposite ends of the political spectrum. We
(19:04):
are not a political show. But if you can't find
a little grace, a little kindness in your heart during
a moment like this, than shame on you. That's how
an autous to the day. I'm going to go no
deeper than that. Okay, let's end with a moment of Rob.
(19:26):
You gotta Rob. Today's moment of Rob is from Rob
Reiner himself. He said the following. Everyone talks about wanting
to change things, to help and fix, but ultimately, all
you can do is fix yourself. And that's a lot
because if you fix yourself, it has a ripple effect.
Work on yourself today, make yourself a little happier, a
(19:46):
little better, a little writer. Hey, that is it for today.
A tricky show, Misty, I think we handled the tone well.
I'm happy with what we've accomplished today. Lots of new
us put in a way that I hope it is
tragic but hopeful. So thank you, mister. I can't imagine
anybody else that I could have done this show with today,
(20:08):
So thank you for always being there, and thank you
naughty for listening to The Naughty but Nice with Rob
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(20:29):
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Advice, sugar, it's never lovell Welcome to the Naughty but
Night Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and it it's Tuesday,
which means a dear friend. Delana Dixon joins us, Hey,
mis d are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I am, and it seems we finally got snow here
in New York.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
It's lovely, isn't it. I love looking at I'm quite
high up. I'm on the fifteenth floor and so it
feels like I'm in a snow globe bibe upstairs, and
the snow's whishing, whishing around my windows. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, I was in Kentucky for a few days and
it actually snow there, So that was the first place
that I saw snow for the season. And then I
came back here and it was snowy as well. So
it's just been a snowy weekend into the snowy week
for me.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Good for you, you're bringing it with you. Okay, let's
jump into our show. What time is it, my friends?
It is tea time massive story today is Rob Reiner
and his wife Michelle. Most of the show today, in fact,
all the show is going to focus on this tragedy
it's an absolute tragedy. I want to make sure we
get the tone right here. Delana and I are devastated.
Let's just put that upfront. This is something that is unimaginable,
(01:22):
not only the death, but who may have indeed murdered them.
We're going to try and bring you as all the
information today so you won't have to go anywhere else
for this story. So Rob Reiner and his wife would
want us to forgive their sile It's controversial. I wanted
to do this as the lead story. I've known this
family for a while. Rob was always very very kind
(01:43):
to me. Well. I spoke to family friends yesterday and
they said forgiveness was a huge deal for Rob and
his wife Michelle, and they would want us in their opinion,
this is a family insider. They would want us to
forgive him for this one hundred percent without question. He
was a very, very troubled, not so young man. We
(02:05):
keep saying son. Obviously he was his son, but he
was in his thirties. He had struggled all his life
mental health issues, substance issues, but he also too had
this incredible life of privilege. He never really had to
work a day in his life. He didn't pay really
any of his bills, all his medication, all his many
many trips to rehab were covered by his parents fortune.
(02:28):
And if indeed it turns out and everything, let's be honest,
looks as if it was him. All the indications are
pointing towards the son, this gruesome, ugly, terrifying death. It
is so easy to be angry. I'm angry. I'm really
angry about this. But when I spoke to this family source, Delena,
(02:49):
I wasn't expecting this, and it stopped me in my tracks.
Rob has been an outspoken advocate of people with mental
health issues. He's always talked about love. If you watch
any of his movies, that's his body of work. People
always say to us, Delna, what's this celebrity really like?
What they're like when they're not on TV, when they're
(03:09):
not in film. I tell everybody, if you want to
know who Rob Browner was is I want to keep
it in the present tense, just for a few weeks.
If you want to know this man, watch his body
of work. It's full of optimism. Originally, the opening of
the closing of Harry met Sally, How that movie ends,
How that movie closes, he wasn't going to get the girl.
(03:33):
And then during the filming of the movie, he met Michelle,
his wife. He met her while he was making that movie,
and he changed the ending because his story ended differently.
He was no longer single, he was in love. And
so I think so much of this man's work was
about his own personal life. Just that was one example
(03:54):
on Harry met Sally. But he was an optimist. If
you watched his films The Princess Briane, they were full
of rome, full of love, full of forgiveness. And so
this is a very very difficult way I know to
start the show today, but I have not stopped thinking
about it. His parents would want us to forgive him.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, Rob, I think you've said it all. And
when you mentioned the movies The Princess brian when Harry
met Sally, they truly are about love and forgiveness. And
when you watch them and you walk away from those films,
you have a sense of hope. And I think that's
what was happening for these parents, this family, that they
always had a sense of hope for their son, that
(04:36):
somehow he would be able to overcome his demons, overcome
his addiction and find peace. And it's incredibly sad. I
mean reading this news and all the other news that
happened over the weekend. We will not go into it,
but we know there was a lot of violence that
happened this weekend and it's just so incredibly sad that
(05:00):
this happened. And I'm sure from what we've been reading
and from what we've been hearing, that the sign is
now kind of having a moment of realizing what he's done,
and the regret and the shame must be just overwhelming.
But my heart just goes out. I mean when my sister,
who doesn't really know what's going on in the show
(05:21):
business world, rates me and goes, oh, my goodness, Rob
Reiner is dead.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You know this has touched people.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's touched people. I think it's a combination.
I was on CNN last night talking about my experiences
working with Rob Ryan or interviewing him, being around him,
but we also talked about what makes this story so
tragic and the story that everybody is talking about just
a few days before Christmas, the first night of Hanukah
is the night that he was slaughtered. Is not only
(05:51):
somebody as plific somebody as successful as him dying, that
would be big news. If he had a heart attack
and died, we'd be talking about Rob Bryaner today, just
because his body of work is so massive. Why this
story is something we can't get away from is the
(06:11):
method in which he died. It wasn't a heart attack.
He was murdered. He was murdered along with his wife, Michelle.
They were slaughtered. There was one one killer. This means
that one of these people watched their spouse get slaughtered.
We're hearing from police sources that their throats were slipped.
(06:36):
Once again, we try so hard to be a positive,
happy podcast, and we will find something, something in this
story so that we can hold onto some hope here.
And for me, it's the love of these parents. They
knew he was troubled, They knew Nick needed a lot
of help. They tried to give him help. They loved him.
(07:00):
His dad made a movie with him. He was a
struggling screenwriter. His dad's one of the most successful directors, actors,
producers of all time, and so they made a movie
together where I'm told they became much closer. Last night,
while I was on TV talking about Rob, I was
in a green room with somebody who had interviewed father
and son together, and he said his dad knew, Rob
(07:24):
knew that Nick was troubled, and he also too. Was
very difficult for Nick, who wanted to be in show business,
to have a father and a grandfather who were giants.
You were never ever going to step out of their shadow.
And none of this is excusing what this young man did.
I don't want anyone to think that for a minute,
(07:45):
but I'm trying to understand it from the perspective here
of his parents. And once again inside us, tell me
if they had survived this, they would have forgiven him,
and even in death. I was told by a very
very close family source, they'll find peace with this. They
(08:05):
love love their son. We're not going to do a
pole question today. We never do a pole question when
it's on a tragedy. It just doesn't feel right. So
let's move ahead, mister. Another story here that I think
is so interesting, and we just touched on it a
little bit. The legacy of this family was really really difficult,
it seems for Nick.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, as you spoke, I mean, his father was incredibly
famous as an actor, as a writer, as a director,
and that can be challenging for a child. But then
add his grandfather, Carl Reiner, who.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Was also an actor.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
An author, a comedian, a director, a screenwriter. He had
Primetime Emmy Awards, Grammy Awards, he won the Mark Twain
Prize for American Humor. So Nick had quite a bit
to live up to. And so a lot of people
say he struggled in that shadow, and he really resented
his dad and hated him himself for not being as
(09:01):
talented or as prolific. And this is perception, right, of course.
I mean, everyone has talents, everyone is prolific in their
own rights, but this is the way he felt. So
he just kind of struggled with this. And of course
he publicly battled his drug addiction for more than half
his life. And he previously co wrote the semi auto
(09:25):
the semi autobiographical film Being Charlie, like you said, inspired
by his repeated stints in rehab and directed of course
by his father. But he was just so consumed by
those demons to the point where what was inside came
out and showed up through his hand and his violence.
(09:47):
It's just it's just so incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
It breaks my heart.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I hear I hear it and you've voice, mister. I
met Nick in La five or six years ago. He
was working on a project and he wanted some advice
and we went to a coffee shop and he was charming.
He was funny and happy. However, when his family's name
came up, which of course I mentioned, he turned. You
(10:14):
could see his expression turn. And let's be honest, misty,
I was meeting with him because of who his father
and his grandfather were. If a struggling screenwriter in LA
who didn't happen to be a Rhiner or a Spielberg
or one of the major families of Hollywood, if they
had texted me or called me or tried to set
up a meeting, probably might not have happened. Pretty busy
(10:36):
when I'm in LA for a few days, But of
course I wanted to meet Rob Ryaner's son. I wanted
to be around that world, and so if I was
feeling that, he was feeling that too. He knew while
why people were talking to him, and that can be
really heavy. That can be really heavy. We talk about
(10:57):
stars who have children on this show a lot and
how difficult it is not just for the child but
for the star. Rob in this amazing film. They did.
Rob's role as the father was him. That's how he felt.
He was confused. He couldn't understand it. Later on, Rob
said that they were listening to the medical professionals and
(11:18):
not listening to their son. And you gotta listen to everybody.
It's just such a tragic, Shakespearean tragic story. Moving along,
we found out that Nick actually destroyed his parents' home
in a drug filled rage. So Nick made this confession
in twenty eighteen on a podcast and he talked about
(11:41):
ripping apart his parents' home. He said, I went ten
rounds in the guest house. What had happened is he
was coming down from a drug binge and his parents
pretty much locked him in their guesthouse on their property.
That property is worth about twelve fourteen million. Brentwood is
a name age a major part of la and so
(12:03):
a lot of a lot of the big houses there
have pools and a little guest house. It's like a
pool house normally like a studio or one bedroom. They'd
put him in there. He was homeless for a long time,
so they put him in there. He destroyed it. But
what do you do do you have him committed. What
at what point do you run out of options? If
(12:24):
this was in your family, and it could be These
mental health struggles, these drug addictions are not just for
the stars, Misty, It's happening all over America, all over
the world. What could they do? And that's what friends
are asking today, What could have they done? Tragic mistakes?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean that is such a challenging question. It's so complex.
I mean we think, oh, my goodness, I would never
have this person in my house. I'd make them, you know,
try to figure it out themselves. I'd put them in
a place where they deal with it. But this is
your child. And I've heard from family friends who are
(13:04):
going through this, that have a family member who who
is battling a drug addiction that even though they see
it that way, the parents of their of their child,
or the parents that they know can't let go of
the child, still gives them money, gives them the car,
gives them the phone, because their biggest fear is that
one day they'll pick up that phone or answer that
(13:26):
phone call and it will be somebody telling them that
their child is.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
No longer with them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And we always know that there's and I don't have children.
But from what I've heard, there's nothing more heartbreaking than
losing your child. Having your child go before you.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Is something that's just so hard to imagine.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So I think they thought, you know, we're gonna give him,
you know, we've locked him in this in this house
so he can deal with it. But at a certain point,
I think when it gets when it's when he's shown
violence and he's shown what he's done. And they were
older people. At a certain point you have to seek
(14:06):
outside help, and you know, you're a celebrity. You don't
want the world knowing about your troubles. But now we
do know, and it's just so horrific and horrible how
it ended. But I think it's just the love of
their son. They just wanted to give them whatever they
could try to help him, and it just it just never.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Rasio donalds struggling with this at the moment. Rosio donald
daughter has been in the night to rehab. Now she's
in jail, and so it is not as unusual as
I wish it was. We're finding out too that just
hours before the tragic passing, there was a huge fight
to blow up at Conan O'Brien's holiday party. So Conan
had a party at his house in the Hills. It
(14:47):
was a fabulous party. I know a couple of people
at that party and they said there was a huge confrontation.
Rob Ryaner and his wife Michelle left. It was a
huge argument with Nick. Everybody was very, very uncomfortable. But
once again, what do you do? This thirty two year
old kid screaming is not a kid, he's grown man,
he's thirty two years old. This thirty two year old
guy screaming at his parents, screaming at them in front
(15:08):
of their colleagues, in front of their contemporaries, in front
of their friends. And so the parents left, and then
Robert Michelle were beside themselves. I also hear too that
Conan is feeling lots of guilt today too. Everybody's asking,
everybody is asking, what could I have done different? I mean, okay,
(15:28):
we're going to take a quick, great mistake and we
will be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nisha.
I'm your host, Rob Shooter with I dear friend, mister, hey, mister,
let's quickly get to the polls. DA Da Lasher revealed
a great exclusive that Blake Lively did reach out to
Taylor Swift to wish her a happy birthday. It was
Taylor's birthday over the weekend. I hear it was a
(15:50):
small email or a text. She didn't expect any return.
We don't know if Taylor answered. I like this even people, mister.
I was thinking, I don't fall out with that many people.
A lot of people fall out with me because of
what I said. But I really don't fall out with
that many people. But I do wish people even that.
I've got a little bit of drama with happy birthday.
I reach out if there's it's been a big event
(16:11):
and you just say happy birthday, and so you know
you're not expecting to be best friends again or go
for coffee. But a friend of mine, her father died,
and I sent her a text. I think technically we
were not speaking or would fell out, but a dad
had died, so I was like, I'm so so sorry,
I just heard the news. She didn't respond perfectly fine,
but I think this was a nice thing for Blake
(16:32):
to do. Here. A question was simple, would you reach
out if you were having beef with a friend. If
you'd fell out with a friend and it was their birthday,
don't you just reach out and say happy birthday. What
do you think here? Eighty percent said, yes, you would,
you would reach out me too, naughty, He's okay, don't
forget to vote, although actually this part of the show
is voyage. Do forget to vote? There is no poll today, mystery,
(16:55):
There is no poll. It just didn't feel right.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
What my question? I ask?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, No, it just didn't feel right. So let's go
straight And this is tricky, but I think we found
one here. Let's go straight to nicest, a difficult one,
but it's still a nicest of the day.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, it is our nicest.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So we're gonna talk about Maria Shreiver because once she
had heard this news, of course, she gave an emotional
tribute and just talking about how loving, how good Rob
and Michelle.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Were as parents.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
She stated, they love their kids so much and they
never stopped trying to be really good parents. She's devastated, gutted, shocked,
and stunned by the laws. She recalled raising their children together,
meaning her and that family sharing decades of laughter, tears
and milestones. And she actually told us that she just
(17:49):
had dinner with Robin Michelle about a week before their death.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The couple.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
At that time, we were in a joyful chapter in
their life. They were deeply in love, proud of their family,
and passionate about making the world a better place. And
she ended it by saying that their friendship was a
gift and something that she'll just remember and cherish and
remember them as kind and fun and patriotic and deeply loving,
(18:15):
even to the point of loving their son, even he
took their lives as.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep deep. Maria Shreiver nicest that day,
and I not he is the day, naughty, naughty, naughty,
I know, dear stuff the day. And I'm not going
to give out any names here, but it's people who
are saying awful things online. A man has died, his
wife has died, They were slaughtered in their home by
their son. If you think this is a moment to
(18:44):
make fun of them, to make fun of their political views,
to make fun of them as who they are as parents,
to blame them, then shame on you. I don't care
if you're talking about Rob Reiner or Charlie Kirk. These
are people from opposite ends of the political spectrum. We
(19:04):
are not a political show. But if you can't find
a little grace, a little kindness in your heart during
a moment like this, than shame on you. That's how
an autous to the day. I'm going to go no
deeper than that. Okay, let's end with a moment of Rob.
(19:26):
You gotta Rob. Today's moment of Rob is from Rob
Reiner himself. He said the following. Everyone talks about wanting
to change things, to help and fix, but ultimately, all
you can do is fix yourself. And that's a lot
because if you fix yourself, it has a ripple effect.
Work on yourself today, make yourself a little happier, a
(19:46):
little better, a little writer. Hey, that is it for today.
A tricky show, Misty, I think we handled the tone well.
I'm happy with what we've accomplished today. Lots of new
us put in a way that I hope it is
tragic but hopeful. So thank you, mister. I can't imagine
anybody else that I could have done this show with today,
(20:08):
So thank you for always being there, and thank you
naughty for listening to The Naughty but Nice with Rob
and Elena Show, a production of Elvis Duran and iHeartRadio.
Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeartRadio, app Apple podcasts
wherever you listen, lead us, are you if you can?
They really do help too. And remember altogether, and I
have a little bit of optimism in our voices, mystery.
(20:29):
Remember if you're going to be, you've got to be.
Let men. Remember that Pa take care of everybody nice
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