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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Advice Shooters, it's nice lover love never lover lover lo. Hello,
welcome to the not even nice Show. I'm your host,
realm Shooter. It is Tuesday, so guess who's joining us?
You can guess it A dear friend delayed Dixon. Hey,
miss d are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm here, I am back.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I have missed you naddies for the past couple of weeks,
but I am here and I am raring to go.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
First of all, can I say it is the start
of Libra season? And if you didn't get it, I
am a Libra. My birthday is on Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Friday? Missed it? I was going to be a good one.
What are we doing? Have you decided yet? We spoke
a couple of days ago about this and you said
you hadn't made your mind up yet. It's your birthday,
it's your choice. Have you have you had any thoughts?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Of course, I'm going to be hanging with you, mister Shooter,
So we're gonna figure out the plan and we're gonna
have a crazy, wonderful, wild, sexy, cool night.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I think it sounds great. Meanwhile, on Friday, I've been
invited to see art. Have you seen the James Corden,
play yet, no tell me Calavari, Neil Patrick Harris, be
my data. Let's do that on your birthday. We'll go
and see art.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sounds like a plan.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Look at us, Look at us doing it live on
the show. Okay, let's jump into our show. What time
is it, my friends? It is time. Big story at
the top of the show. So Jimmy Kimmel is back
tonight on ABC. Not all the ABC stations, though. I
think this is a bit hard to understand, so let
me let me try and explain that ABC does not
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own their local affiliates. So you could be an ABC
station in Mississippi, or in Detroit or anywhere in America.
That does not mean ABC owns you. It's quite complicated,
isn't it. Mister. If you and me had millions and
millions of dollars, we could buy ABC Kentucky. We could
and it would be our station. But it is part
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of ABC, but they don't own it because me and
mister do. So these individual stations can decide whether or
not to air Jimmy. So ABC is doing Jimmy tonight. However,
some of their stations are still not going to air him.
But this brings us to another big ABC show, The
View would be. Goldberg returned to The View yesterday to
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talk about Jimmy for the first time, and she really
tried to address the backlash, which was the View had
gone silence. Jimmy did not happen yesterday. It happened last week.
The View was live the day after it happened, and
they chose not to speak about him. Now. Woope has
seen all the comments. Everyone's like, the show is called
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The View, You're meant to talk about stuff that we're
all talking about will be said. That isn't the case.
Do you think that anyone could silence them? Well, I'm
being told yes, we do think that, and that is
probably what happened. Woopee insists that they were being respectful,
that they weren't jumping into the Jimmy Kimmel situation right
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away because they wanted to give a little bit of
time to see what happened. When has the View ever
done that? When is the View ever said, you know today,
we're not going to talk about We're going to wait
a few days and let the dust settled. No, this
is about being part of ABC. It's not a good look. Whoope,
I love Whoopee, and I think the whole reason we
love the view is because they are uncensored, maybe sometimes
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too uncensored. But now that we know, now that we know,
there are certain topics, particularly topics that are in house,
that are ABC topics that they're gonna be careful about.
I think it's silly to pretend otherwise. I would have
more respect for the show if yesterday they had said,
we haven't been talking about Jimmy Kimmel and it's the
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elephant in the room. I know you're all talking about it,
but we can't legally. I would have so much more
respect or they just did say that, mister, we've done
TV together, we've done it separately. Being honest is the
key to great TV.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It really truly is. But we got to break this
down for a moment. So who are their bosses? Disney?
Who is Jimmy Killobl's bosses Disney?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And sometimes, let's think about it, if you heard something
go down at your job and you were a spokesperson
and that was your boss, you might keep mum for
a day or two.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Just to figure out. I like my job, I like
sitting at this desk.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So what would have also been great is if they
had said, hey, we haven't had an opportunity to talk
about this, but we are going to talk about it now.
And just like you said, address the elephant in the
room or should I say the mouse win win, So
people understand, Okay, we have to relate. This was your boss,
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and they might have just told you this is not
something you're going to talk about until we're ready for
you to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, we've been asked to avoid certain topics when I've
gone on certain networks. They've made it very very clear
what they don't want me to talk about. You don't
just pop up on TV and talk. It's not like
meeting Miss d and I at Bontino's. There's an agenda.
There's a script. Before you even get out the car
at the TV studio, you've been sent notes from a producer.
That's what a producer does. They give you what you're
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not what you're going to say, but the topics you're
going to talk about. Some producers even trying to give
you soundbites. So here everybody at ABC was very nervous.
The situation was very, very fluid. Conversations with Jimmy clearly
were happening. Because he's returning tonight. So they didn't want
to upset the apple cart. And I understand that and
I respect that, but I don't believe. I don't buy this.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know we did.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
We didn't want to talk about him. We talk about
whatever we want. You can't silence us, and we SA
can imagine them in the dressing room, in the makeup
room saying, you know what, we're not going to talk
about Jimmy today. Joy, I don't feel like to No,
that was the story of the day. They should have
addressed it and said, we're in a very difficult position.
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We're in the same company as Jimmy. We have total
respect for ABC. They could have even defended their employer.
I would have said, we respect Disney and Disney have
the right to remove, cancel, postpone any show, and they've
decided to do that with Jimmy. But they just said nothing.
I think I used to be a big believer in
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saying nothing if something was wrong, But I think the
times have changed now because of social media, because of
TikTok and Instagram. I think saying nothing now is actually
kind of as dangerous as saying something.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, I think that would have been best if the
day after it happened, if they had just said, we
understand that one of our sister shows here in the
Disney world has been put on hiatus, we'd love to
speak about it. At this point, we are still waiting
or whatever the person, the Legalese person could have come
up with and then let their fans be the ones
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to say, hey, are you silencing them as well? And
we're pretty certain that probably the reason why Jimmy Kimmel
is on is because of fans. People went to Disney
and canceled their accounts and their trips, their cruises, their
Disney parks. So as as viewers, as people who take
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in media, we really do have a say, and we
can only tell you how we feel through our dollars.
I'm not saying it's the only reason, but I'm sure
it was a little bit of the micronasty.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think is a big reason. Follow the money, okay,
which brings us to our pole question of the day
will be Goldberg is saying they were not silenced over
Jimmy Kimmel. No, no, no, they were just being respectful.
Do you believe yes, no, Cobot, do you think will
be just decided you know what, We're gonna be really
respectful today. We're not gonna talk about that. We're gonna
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let the dust settle. What do you think they was?
Silentsd Okay? Go vote on our Twitter page, add Naughty
Nice Rabbi Facebook pages Naughty Gossip and be sure to
check back tomorrow to hear your results. Miss de Love,
what are you working on?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So Priscilla Presley's explosive new memoir, Softly As I Leave
You is already stirring up a storm, and mainly with
the Michael Jackson estate, who is considering legal action against
her for some of the claims she's made about the
King of pop. So the biggest one that Priscilla is making.
She's eighty years old, so you know they say their mind.
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She's saying she accuses him of marrying her daughter, Lisa
Marie Presley, back in nineteen ninety four as a publicity
stunt to appear as a desirable heterosexual man when he
was dealing with child molestation allegations. So of course Jackson's
camp is furious.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They're livid.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
They are fiercely protective one of Michael Jackson's legacy and
his image, and they will not let accusations like this
go unchallenged. There's no lawsuit filed yet, but it could
get to that stage. I mean, Rob, this is pretty explosive.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, absolutely that a state too is litigious? Is that
the correct word? They love to fire off legal letters.
They protect Michael's legacy almost unnecessarily harshly, like they are
on it, to the point where it almost feels like
they're hiding something that we know what they're trying to hide.
Michael was accused but not convicted, of some very very ugly,
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very very serious crimes. I think Priscilla has picked that
scap off. What that has status done since Michael's death,
They have sanitized the Michael Jackson story. If you get
to see the Michael Jackson musical on Broadway, they don't
mention any of the before. It just ends right before
in a new movie coming out, Michael Jackson, I don't
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talk about all the stuff the word or arguing about,
so they sort of pretend that didn't happen. Along comes
Priscilla picks the scab off and starts talking about this again,
and they want her to shut up, and so there
could be legal action here. I think though they have
to be careful because I think everything Priscilla is saying
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is absolutely true. She's giving her interpretation as a mother
when her daughter married Michael Jackson. This is what I thought, Well,
you can't argue with that. That's a fact. That's what
she felt. She's not pretending to have any extra evidence
or she's solved a crime. She's not saying any accusations
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that are not already out there, So I think legally
she's okay. Although they would rather this just go away.
We got to get that book, okay. Moving along, this
story broke my heart. James Van Derbeek from Dawson's Creek
had to drop out of a charity reuni and he
was going to be on a Dawson Creek reunion for
charity and he had to pull out at the last minute.
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We know he's very, very sick. He has cancer. He
has spoken about this. He's a father of six and
he said his full time job now is living with cancer.
And despite optimism that we really did have around him,
the disease has taken a really heavy toll. Lind Manuel
Miranda stepped into the charity to read his lines, so
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it did go ahead. Sources are telling me family have
said goodbye. They know that this is really really bad.
They know that this is really really serious, and I
think to pretend otherwise probably isn't a great idea. We
know how this is going to end. And I love
his fight, I love his honesty. I have so much
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respect for him. I love that lin Manuel jumped in
at the eleventh hour. So this charity wasn't going to
be hurt here, but very very difficult. I'm going through
this with my father now as death approached, and it's
going to approach every single person listening to this podcast,
every single person in the world. It's still a really,
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really difficult subject to mistake.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I have to say that cast has been kind of
dedicated to their fans. So for James Vanderviek to step
out of this, he must be extremely, extremely sick. They
were reading the pilot episode and it would just be
fun to have a reunion and see your old coworkers
and castmates. So it's really serious and it's just extremely sad,
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and you know, all we can do is in our
prayers and well, you know, wishes to a shamily. Yeah.
I can't even say it well because it might not happen,
but I'm glad that he's being honest about it because
people need to know this is what happens. And just
because you're a celebrity doesn't mean that you're going to
escape any type of medical issues. So I just pray
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for his family, and that's all you can do at
this point.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's all you can do. Okay, moving along, while we
called this show mustee. While we are talking, I'm looking
up and I'm seeing hold her back on the Today Show.
She's not back full time, and maybe that's why this
story is so relevant. What have you got, mister?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, she's back, she's plugging all her new things, she's
happy and everything. But what the show is worried about?
Because the audience loves Hoodah. We love her every time
we run into her where she's always.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like, hey girl, how you doing? And producers are worried.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
If she pops up again, people are gonna remember what
they are missing and start asking why she even left
in the first place. Now, remember this was her decision.
She wanted to spend more time with her children, and
she can do more projects when she's not locked down
in a contract. So she basically was promoting her new book,
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Jump and Find Joy, and it's all about embracing change.
So that would be funny that people are like, I
remember that she was on the show, and now I
want her back.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But it's true.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
You had to have you know, they had to have her,
had to have her.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, it's a dangerous move. It's a dangerous move because
I was reminded this morning how much I miss her.
I'd moved on, like, you know, after a few months,
I've got used to Craig and Savannah and they're great
at it. But then when Hoda popped back up, I
was like, Oh, this is the joy that I've been
missing on the show. This is the energy that made
me tune in all those years, every single day. And
so it is a double edged sword here. You want
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your friend done, you want to promote her book, you
want to support her projects. But every time she appears,
it does remind the audience exactly what they are missing.
O holder. I think this book's gonna be huge.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I have to say the producers are smart, because if
she went on another show, like maybe Good Morning America,
then people be like, she should be here. So they
they're like, let's just it's better to bring her home
and take the risk.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
That's really smartest because if today she would be like, oh,
we're too busy today, we can't book you. Holder, she
could have got herself a Good Morning again or Gail
King or so. Yeah, they had to have her. But
I hear there's good conversations going on backstage.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I like this.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
TV's really really smart. Producers are really really smart. Nothing
is an accident on television, which links us back to
our opening story, which is why what whoop are you
saying now? Is just so unrealistic. It's just probably not
what happened. Okay, we're going to take a quick break
and we will be right back. Welcome back to the
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not even nice sham your Homeston shooter with idear friend
mister Hay, let's get to the polls. Last year we
talked about alisters begging to get tickets invites. I should
say to Taylor Swift's wedding, this is not her heir
as tweet, this is a wedding. You can't buy tickets
on ticket that's that you have to be invited. Publicist
manager's agents are all trying to get their clients into
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this wedding. Will it be a small wedding mysterial. Will
it be packed with stars? Will it be a big
Hollywood Kardashian type wedding, or will this be a small,
intimate wedding. Let's have a eighty percent said small. Taylor's
not missing about here. This is not gonna be random stars.
Remember when Harry and Meghan got married and the Cloonies
were in the church, and the Cloonies were like, we
don't really know them, We've never really met them, but
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I don't really know them that well. But who's going
to turn down a rail weddy? Okay, don't forget to
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results are now it's term for a nicest.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh the jo Ah Well, Our nicest of the day
is Hailey Beaver because she is running the Justine Show
now he is headlining Coachella twenty twenty six. But people
tell hashtag shooter scoop love that Haley is running the show.
She's the boss now when industry and she is the
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boss now now Justin trusts her judge meant more than
anyone's musically, personally, professionally.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
If she says job, he says how high? Baby?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I like, she's really smart.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I know a lot of people think billion dollars, clingy and.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
H but do you know what criticized her. It's a
gold digger almost, and she's the brains behind the operation.
Just the needs help. We've seen this clearly is melting down.
He's a brilliant singer, a terrible business man, and so
she has stepped in. She's a brilliant business person. I
mean she just sold her her makeup brand for a
billion dollars. A billion mystery. Let her Jesus take the wheel,
and in this case that means Hailey, Hailey take Hailey.
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If you want to take over the finances of the
Naughty but Nice Show, you were welcome.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Come and help, please, girl, please, we need some help.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Hailey, be and nicest of the day. And now I
noticed the day naughty naughty. We have a new fashion
neo baby, and their name is Jaden Smith. So Jaden Smith,
Will and Will and Jada's youngs and Jayden has now
been even a prestigious title at a really fabulous fashion brand.
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Christian Louis Betune have hired him to head up their
men's division. Everybody in the fashion community is this is ridiculous.
People spend their lives trying to be a creative director
for a fashion house as big as Christian Louis Batan. However,
this kid, at twenty seven, with little fashion experience apart
from wearing fashion, is now suddenly in charge this Neppo
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baby stuff mystery. It makes me giggle a little bit,
but it really it's not fair.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I mean, it would have been nice if he had
just gone to fashion school. I mean there was some
kind of trajection, yes, something. I mean, I know he
has a great sense of style, and it may be
in name only. They're obviously going to be people who
are deciding all the business side of creative directoring. I mean,
you know Pharrell, he's I believe Louis Buitart.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it does so.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But he's also a little bit older, and he doesn't
have a.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Moment that are famous like Farral got this himself. Had
they hired Will Smith, I would be like, oh, that's whacky.
But he is Will Smith, and he has worked really
hard and he has earned all this success. Jaden, come on,
come on, we're not happy Okay, let's end with a
moment of accept more expect less. Disappointment usually comes from expectations,
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from wanting people of circumstances or like itself to behave
exactly the way you pictured it. But here's the truth,
you can't control it all. When you learn to accept
instead of expect, something powerful happens. You stop being crushed
when others don't meet your standards. You free yourself from
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the trap of believing happiness depends on boundaries, and you
start to feel peace. This is a really major point, Misty.
You have to accept more and expect less. I've got
to that point, Misty. I expect very little nod from
my friends, from my family, and then when stuff comes,
and it always does, I'm so much more grateful. I
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think this is advice we can all follow. Hey, that
is it for today. Thank you so much for listening.
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