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May 15, 2025 20 mins

Justin Bieber’s years-long partnership with Scooter Braun, the manager who helped turn him into a global pop phenomenon, has ended in bitter financial chaos. Halle Berry may be a red carpet veteran, but even an Oscar winner can get fashion-policed in France. Princess Kate may have just picked a very public side in the Victoria Beckham/Meghan Markle drama

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes, it's hell level lo love Lo love a Loo. Hello,
welcome to the Naughty but Nice shall your host Rob Shooter?
And it's Thursday, which means I dear friend Mark Boo
joins us. Hey, Luppia, though lou is here, here are Hey?
Where did you go on vacation? I forgot the dates,
so I should put it into my diary.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm going relieving the night of May twenty nine and
coming back a bit good June.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, where are you going?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Going to Greece?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
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my friend. I've got a really good friend who now
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Piano like Piano, and she's a door of all. Okay,
let's jump into the show. What time is it? My friends?
It is tea time big story at the top of
the show, a really shocking story. And I think the

(00:57):
reason this story is getting so much attention is its celebrity,
it's money, it's power. It's really the downfall of somebody
that was worth at one point almost the billion dollars.
Who am I talking about Justin Bieber. So it's been
revealed that Justin Bieber's really ugly split with his manager,
Scooter Brawn, who was there right from the beginning. He
really helped Justin become a superstar. It was over money.

(01:20):
And it isn't the manager here that owes the money.
It's normally the manager that's a little shady. It's actually
the star that Justin owes him millions. Let me explain,
So their long, long, long term partnership friendship has fell.
A party ended with a really bitter financial chaos, and

(01:40):
sources are telling me that it's Scooter. It's Scooter who
has been taken for a ride by Justin. So TMZ
and explosive new documentary claimed that Justin was left with
just just a few million boohoo. I know that sounds terrible,
but this is a guy who was once worth almost
a billion dollars and then he went on tour with

(02:03):
his big promoter, AEG and if you remember, he canceled
halfway through the tour and that put him a complete
financial loss, a massive forty million dollar debt. So he
owed all this money to the promoter. Scooters stepped in
and offered to bail him out, basically because all the
money had gone he'd spent the advance, and so they

(02:24):
offered to bail him out. But then the deal was,
you'll pay me back because Scooter has a lot of money.
He meant that he was going to buy Taylor Swift's catalog,
and so he really loaned just In the money and
a few checks came and then they just stopped paying.
And they reached out and was like, where's the money, Like,
where's the check each month to pay off this debt. Well,
tims are saying that Justin then believes something was weird here,

(02:46):
and he got like a financial person to look through
the books, and then they got an independent financial person
to look through the books, and I think here they
both agreed that Justin owed Scooter money. It's shocking to me.
It shouldn't be shocking. We hear these stories all the time,
Elton John, these huge, huge pop stars who file for bankruptcy.

(03:07):
They live too large, They live too large.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
What do you think, milk, There's a few things here.
So the reason why he canceled the tours because he
actually became sick. So we had this this Ramsey Hunt syndrome,
which is it caused him facial paralysis and he wasn't
able to go on with the tours. It wasn't like
he just canceled because he just was tired of doing it.
He actually became really sick. And so I was reading
that I think there was some issue with the insurance,

(03:31):
like there wasn't That's why it wasn't properly insured. And
so I left him at this big debt, and so
I questioned, who was on the tour supposed to like
insure this person in case there wasn't illness, Like you know,
when Wendy Williams got sick, the show had insurance. Someone
was getting paid out because you know, that was the deal.
That's what you set up yourself for. On the flip
side of this, though, Rob, you know, I was reading

(03:52):
he's spending three hundred thousand dollars at NOBU and he's
just dropping money endlessly and he's spending cash like as
if he's it's all working, but he hasn't worked in
many years. And that's where things get really messy, is
you are in trouble, sir. You've you spent your fortune.
Now you might have to go back to work. And
if I'm not sure if he's healthy enough to do
that at this point.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, it's so difficult. We know these artists really well.
In the seventies and the eighties, maybe the nineties, two
artists made money from selling records or from writing great
songs that were on the radio, and now streaming pays
a fraction. So if you're a songwriter. I'm married to
a songwriter, I know the difference between the heyday when
they were getting a ton of money and now it's

(04:34):
all streaming and they barely pay a dollar. You have
to get a billion streams, I think to get ninety
nine cents, Like it's just crazy. And Justin's not streaming
music like he used to. The way pop stars now
make their money is they go on the road. If
you see somebody on the road like Share and you're like,
oh girl, give it up. No, it's because it's paying

(04:54):
her bills, share rate making money anymore from radio. She's
not making money from selling album anymore. Share and all
those legs at Elton John they make their money on
the road. That's why you see these aging stars who
never ever seem to quit. They just want the money
and they live really really big. It does make me
sad here that normally I'm quite anti manager. In my

(05:17):
experience in show business, most of the problems are called
caused by shady managers, and they're normally not qualified, and
they're normally a relative or your dad. Jessica Simpson's dad
is the best example somebody that really wasn't qualified to
sort of have that job. But there's a lot of
managers around that sort of just take their ten twenty
percent and do nothing. I gotta say Scooter wasn't that

(05:37):
type of manager. He's a really really good manager. There's
parts of him that people don't like, but he knows
what he's doing. He found this kid on YouTube and
helped create this superstar. It's so interesting, Mark, I want
to know the manager who was with you when you
weren't famous, not when you became famous. So I could
now be Alicia Kesey's manager because she's a superstar. It's

(06:00):
not that hard managing a superstar. I could become Beyonce's
manager because she's a superstar. It's not that hard managing
a superstar. What's hard is when nobody knew who Beyonce was,
when Alicia Keys was playing piano bars, when Taylor Swift
was playing little country festivals. Who was the manager? Then

(06:21):
that's the person I want to know who turned you
into the star that you are now, not who jumped
on the gravy train after it was up and running.
Scooter was there from the beginning. He loves Justin and
I think he is not leaking this stuff. I think
this stuff has come at and I think he's probably
embarrassed by it. He's not talking about it. But when

(06:41):
you owe me money, you owe me money, So pay
up now. What has saved Justin and a lot of
pop stars are doing this. He sold his catalog. So
when you see all these pop stars, Bruce Springsteen, these
huge stars, the reason they sell their catalog is they
want the money now because they don't want to go
on the road. They don't want to tour anymore. Justin
didn't want a tour. I don't think he's even capable

(07:01):
of tuning mentally physically, and so he made two hundred
million dollars, which should, to anybody else set them up
for the rest of their life. However, if you can
blow through six seven, eight hundred million in a few years,
you can blow through two hundred million very quickly. Because
I don't think there's any lesson learned here. I don't

(07:21):
think Justin sat down and said, oh my goodness, I'm
spending too much money. I think he's blaming everybody else.
They're stealing, they're taking my money. That's the reason I
don't have money. No, the reason you don't have all
the money you should have, Justin is you. You gotta
sit down and think about how you spending money. And
you know what, you don't have to be a just
In Bieber to realize this. There's been times in my life,

(07:43):
Mark when I've spent too much money. I've just overspent.
I don't earn that type of money. And when I
cut my budget, the truth is I never really miss
all that stuff. It's just stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's just stuff. And I think you know that. To
that end, Bieber is seemingly going through something very serious.
He's very posting a lot of odd things on social media.
People are concerned about his mental health. And I think
when you're going through struggles, you kind of and that
you're in a spiral, you might be spending in ways
that are really inappropriate. And I and then there's been
reports that his wife has spent a lot of money

(08:16):
and has acted inappropriately, And so I think he's just
a surrounded by a lot of people. He's been as
personal as as family have not been the best of him.
He's just kind of It's just a sad, sad case.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's sad. It's sad, it's sad, it is messy. It
brings us to our pole question of the day, Justin
Bieber and his manager Scooter Brawn split over money. Are
you shocked that someone like Justin Bieber, that Justin Bieber
has money trouble? He's really rich, He's earned a lot
of money. He's not really rich. He's earned a lot
of money, but he's spent a lot of money. Are

(08:48):
you shocked that Justin has money trouble?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
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Speaker 2 (09:00):
I read a lighter story for us. Rob Halle Barry
was forced to cover up at the can Film Festivals.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
It's a nationally it's a cross.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Crime and she was told to put on more clothes.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'm dead.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
The fifty eight year old Oscar winner was forced to
change her outfit the last minute before stepping out at
the twenty twenty five Can's Film Festival after strict new
laws band nudity and Barry's look her original book, I
should say it came too close for comfort. So she
had a drop dropping down ready to go, but they
the film festival said absolutely not. An insider has told

(09:35):
Shooter he scoop it was sexy. Shear and definitely pushed
the boundaries. They told her to cover up or stay home.
Adding to that, they said, Barry said, I'm not going
to break the rules, and she told her reporters but
she was. She wasn't thrilled. She played it cool though
she was annoyed, and this was supposed to be her moment.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
What do you think, right, Yeah, you can at a
moment and keep your clothes on that you are one
of the most beautiful people in the world. She does
like to push the boundaries. We saw her recently and
I gasped at the METS gala, where, my goodness, there
was a lot to show that. What I don't get
about this is we're talking about France. If you go

(10:16):
to any beach, if you go two minutes down the
road from the can Film Festival to the beach. People
are top place like it is. The French are not
prudes about this, the Brits are, the Americans are. The French.
Boobies are out everywhere in Paris, like it's kind of
like a city that's known to be ultraliberal, sexually free,

(10:38):
and so I don't quite understand what was going on,
so I hit the phones. Some of my sources say
they were just scared of a Kanye West repeat. They
didn't want total nudity on the carpet. Remember when Kanye
turned up and his wife dropped her fur coat and
she was totally naked. So this is almost people are
blaming Kanye. It's always Kanye because everybody in trouble. And

(10:59):
then the other thing I heard, which was interesting is
Tom Cruise Premie admission impossible at the Crown at the
can Film Festival. Tom's quite approved. Tom does not like
all this stuff. So maybe it was to appease Tom.
Maybe it was to keep Tom happy all that Halle
it was going to be there at a different type.
I haven't quite got to the bottom of this. Why

(11:20):
why Why, of all places, if the Oscar said no nudity,
I'd say, oh, absolutely, but can.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean, you know, Halle Berry is one of the
most beautiful women in the world. She doesn't have to
do that either. She could look cree in a paper bag.
You know, it's it is ard. I think it's kind
of fun to show off the fashions and to be
a lot of the spaces. Its kind of disappointing. But
I think the Kanye, the Kanye of it all is
what's going on here for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think it's Kanye. I think it's Kanye. Okay, moving along,
Cap Middleton seems to have sent some royal level shade
at Meghan a markel and it involves it involves the Beckhams.
So it was spotted out wearing Victoria Beckham. She's never
wore Victoria. In fact, she's only ever wore Victoria Beckham
once in the last ten years. I tried to look

(12:09):
through it. My photo team looked through it. She never
wears Victoria Beckham. Well, Victoria Beckham was really close to
Meghan Mark. Remember when they were at the wedding. They
had falling out and it was alleged that Megan thought
Victoria was leaking stories and Harry confronted David Beckham and
David exploded. So they've not spoke in a while. Well,
guess who's now friends with Victoria Beckham. Kate. Oh, it's shade.

(12:33):
It's Petty. Although she did look fabulous. It was like
an Olive green suit, really gorgeous. When I saw it,
I was like, but you know what, I knew something
was up because when I saw it, I stopped and
I was like, that's not like Kate. I've never seen
her in a suit that is structured like that. She
normally knows what she wants to go to. She has
her five or six looks, her silhouettes. This is a

(12:53):
new silhouette for Kate, a new color, and I was like, Wow,
what's going on. Then I saw the designer and I
was like, all the shaded. It's quite interesting. I have
been tempted to do this in my pettiness when I
fell out with somebody. I've become friends with somebody who
has also fell out with Petty.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes, it really is. And I think adding to this,
you know, David Beckham has become an ambassador for King
Charles Charity. They're saying it all the way is without
saying it that they're definitely taking the side of the
Royals and not taking the side of you know, Harry
and Meghan.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, yes, we see Okay, quickly before we can break.
Meghan Trainer, who has changed a lot, She's lost a
lot of weight, she looks like a different person, has
now changed the lyrics to one of her song, which
I think is not a good idea. What do you think, Look, yeah,
she's flipping the script.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
So the Grammy winning pop star stun fans at the
Wango Tango when she swapped the now famous lyric and
airy twenty fourteen hit song all about their Bass.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's a great song to now it was the lyric
was I ain't no size too enough. The new lyric
is I got some new boobs. And this comes after
she revealed her dramatic weight lass she took one of
those GPL one drugs and now you know, people are
very upset. They were claiming that, you know, she's changing

(14:18):
her tune about body positivity and what do you think,
rab I.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Think this is not a good idea. When you're really
really successful for one thing, why completely change And even
if you lose weight, you can still sing the song.
If you have a hit song, honor that song. Don't
remix it, don't update it, don't change the lyrics. You're
lucky enough Megatrainer to have a monster hit, a song

(14:43):
that we all know, even people that are not your
fans know that song. And when artists start messing with
it like they're embarrassed about it, I think you lose
interest in it. I was very frightened when Adele lost
all her weight, because what made her so authentic was
she was who she was, and then when she changed,
I was like, oh, maybe she's not the girl I

(15:04):
thought she was. But what Adele has that nobody else
has is that voice. As long as Adele has those pipes,
I don't care. But Megan, I'm not saying that you
need to be heavy, but to try and to raise
what made you so successful. You were so relatable. When
you start changing the lyrics of a song, I think
your fans start to look at the people to adore.

(15:29):
I was disappointed when I saw Madonna in concert and
she's changed like a virgin, and she's made it all
modern and hip and almost an Egyptian anthem. Sing the song,
I like the song, Just sing sing the song. It
never made any sense. Twenty years ago. It doesn't make
any sense now. I don't care these artists think they

(15:49):
have to be so literal. No, just sing the song. Okay,
we're going to take a quick break and we will
be right back. Welcome back to the Naughty Vannaishami host
from Shooter with the Differendo Helup. Let's get to the
polls we asked yesterday, and we're trying to cover the
Diddy awful awful revelations with her overwhelming. I don't want

(16:11):
this to become a Diddy podcast, but yesterday we did
really lean in because Cassie took the stand and some
people were saying that that was a turning point in
the trial. Do you agree? Do you think Cassie's testimony
was a turning point? Let's have a look. Wow, eighty
five percent said yes, I agree. To hear what she
had allegedly gone through. It was just heartbreaking. It made

(16:34):
me so so angry, so so upset. Cassie. Cassie, Cassie.
I think she's back on the stand today. You are
so brave and this is a turning point. Hey, don't
forget to vote on today's pole. Gonna add to a
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be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results are.

(16:55):
Now it's time for an Nicis of the Day. No.
I love that this star is emitting that they have insecurities.
We all do, even the most beautiful people in the world.
What am I talking about?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Right? Demi Moore admitted that she begged Charlie's Angels producers
to not film her butt, so she took the picture
of confidence strutting across the beach in Charlie's Angels. But
behind the camera, Demi Moore was quietly battling and crippling
body in securities. And now she's finally telling us the truth.
She said, I begged them not to shoot my bud.
This is this happened on the Drew Barrymore Show. She said,

(17:31):
I don't know what my obsession was, but it just was.
And now sources were telling shooter scoop, rob your pocket,
you're subject that The now iconic scene was almost scrapped
after Moore pushed back hard against the skimpy skin bathing
script moment.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
She looked great in it. But we all have our insecurities,
and you were allowed to have them. You don't have
to describe them. When I first started to do TV,
my damage dar was my insecurity, and I was always
careful about how I sat or I didn't want to
walk and talk because my balance is so bad. I
wanted to be at a desk. I like to desk
in front of me so I could put my arm
on the top of the desk. And that was my
insecurity and I'm allowed to have it. I've since gone

(18:09):
over that. But we all have our insecurities. Some people
don't like the left side of their face the right
side of their face. Some people don't like the shape
of their hips. You're allowed to have insecurities. Listen, if
Demi Moore, arguably one of the most beautiful people in
the world, can have insecurities, you can too. There's nothing
wrong with her. I love that Demi's speaking out because
it reminds us that everybody. Everybody has insecurities. And now

(18:32):
I noticed the day naughty, naughty, naughty Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
just cracked a joke about Maria Shreiber and she's not
very happy about it. So he was talking about one
of his movies, a holiday movie. It's a movie called
the man with the bag, and he was saying he
loves this movie because it's on every single Christmas, so
he makes a residual. However, do you know who loves
it more? His ex wife, because every time it's on,

(18:53):
he said, she calls me about the residuals Now, Arnold,
let's remember you blew up this marriage, and let's remember
how you blow up the marriage by cheating with the housekeeper.
She deserve every penny Maria. You better shut up about
Maria and money. She deserves every single penny. Arnold, I

(19:13):
don't want to hear it. Zip it. Let's end with
a moment of rob. You're gonna rob, You're gonna rob.
Ten years from now, none of this will matter. So
ten years from now, no one's gonna care what shoes
you wore, how flawless mark your hair is. No one's
gonna care what designer labels were stitched inside your jacket.
What will matter how you live, how you loved and

(19:34):
how deeply others loved you. The legacy you leave it
won't be about aesthetics. It will be about impact, the
laugh she shared, the hands you held, and the hearts
that you healed. Remember that today it's not gonna matter
ten years from now, not gonna matter. What is bothering

(19:55):
you today, what's on your mind, what's upset you, what's
niggling away you? I promise you, ten years from now,
none of that, none of it will matter. Hey, that
is it for today. Thank you so much for listening
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