March 26, 2020 • 25 mins
In today's very special episode, Rob is joined by Real Housewives of New York star Luann de Lesseps – and nothing is off limits! The Countess doesn't hold back when asked about her sobriety, the status of her friendship with Bethenny Frankel, her dating life, and what to expect in the new season of RHONY. Plus, she dishes about that infamous video from her 2017 arrest!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Hello, Hello, it's your friend Rob shoot her here.
Before we get to today's very special episode, I want
to let you know that this was recorded before we
all began social distancing. However, we wanted to bring you
this special episode with lu Ane. I've known her for
quite a while and she's never been more open and
funny and cheeky. Lots of scoop about the housewives, even
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though I was shocked and I thought I knew everything.
So hopefully for the next twenty minutes or so, you
can sit back, enjoy, laugh, giggle, and escape everything else
that's going on in the world. Advice Spice. It's time. Hello, Hello, hello, lo, Hello,
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Welcome to the naught even Nice Show. I'm Rob shoot
At your host. We bring you celebrity gossip here Monday
through Thursday, all the best gossip. But today we're going
to change our format a little bit because we have
a special guests here today, Countess Luan del Cepps. Thank
you very much. Countess with an s from the Real
Hanneswives of New York is joining us to chat all
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house my good morning, I'm good. You know what I've
been up to is just relaxing. I've been so busy
filming The Housewives it's airing April second, and um and
on my tour with my cabaret show. So it's been
very busy, but but great. And I've had a bit
of a hiatus, which I really enjoyed spending time with
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my children because I do have two children aside from
everything else I do. UM And so I've been traveling
with my daughter Victoria and we were out in l
A and that was just relaxing. We did some Kundalini yoga,
which I've gotten into and it just keeps my head
screwed on straight, do you know what I mean? And
you know, on top of that, you know, I have
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this dance song coming out with Desmond Child that's in
the work. So UM, busy, busy, busy, but good. What's
that I hear? It's the chimes of Big Ben, which
means only one thing on this show. It means it
is tea time. So today we're gonna get the tear
straight from lou Anne herself. Lou Am, that trailer has
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been out a few weeks now, and you are the
highlight of the trailer. You think you are, And let
me tell you why you haven't seen the trailer. I
know you will have there's a minute on the trailer
where it looks like you're having a drink of vodka.
What's going on? Well, I mean, so the inside scoop is,
you know, I drink on occasion, and I've no longer
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in probation. I gotten through a really rough time and
so now I'm in the driver's seat and I can decide,
you know, for myself, and so I drink on occasion.
I'll say that, and um, and I'm feeling really good,
you know right now. You know it's been I haven't
been drinking for the last month, so I've been doing
yoga and you know, just taking care of myself. So,
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like I said, it's it's really occasional. Now do you
know what's going to be in the trailer or do
you see it when we see it? I see it
when you see it. You don't have Eddie's approval or
the house. I've said it all. I mean, can you
imagine you have seven house WHI squabbling over Oh my god,
I don't like the way I look. Can we can
we use that instead? I mean, it would be insane.
So they just send it to They send it you
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an hour in a vance or no, you just literally
see it when we we literally see it when you
see it, Did you like this trailer or you because
you are like it's it's all about you in the trailer?
That drink moment was big because of the history you
come through. Sort it was the moment everyone's been talking about. Right,
does it feel odd? Or did you know they were
going to use that you've done this? Well? I knew
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it was going to come up at some point. Did
I know they were going to use it in the trailer?
And not really like I've seen the show? Not really?
Um no, So I see it like you do. And
so I was just as surprised as you were in
terms of, you know, oh, okay, they played that moment
where you know, I do have a drink with the
girls and um, and I feel like I've had a
reboot in my life and and I've gotten to a
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great place and so um, I'm doing you know, I'm
doing great. Was it a conscious decision? It stace this
head on like you're not showing away from this. It
was it was a decision that actually, in that moment,
there was no conscious decision. I you know, thought it
was water then I found out it was vodka, and
then I was like, you know what, I'm free. I
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can do what I want. So I had one vodka
drink that night and soda. Big deal. It wasn't like
I was chugging vodka. You know, I just said to myself,
you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give myself that leeway.
I'm gonna give myself a break after what I've been through.
And so far, so good. The cast of the show.
You know, my fellow housewives have not judged me at all.
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They've They've been like, you know what, LOUI support you
whatever you decide you want to do. Drinking on that
show has been so much of the decade of the show.
Of course, I did so much fun to right. Has
that changed the way you filmed? Is it going to
see any difference in Luan, Well, you're going to see
me start off in a situation where I'm still going
through it and arrived to the place at the end
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of the season where I'm in control of the situation.
So it's not them that's in control, it's me, and
ultimately that's you know, that's the most important thing. It's
been a really good place I'm in a great place.
It leaving along Bethanie Frankel is not returning. So Bethany
has been on the show since day one, like you,
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but she left and came back. I think exactly. She
started the show with you, Ramona, and Bethanie. I think
of the three originals on the New York. What's it
like without having her there? What was filming like with that? Bethany,
she's a big personality. Yeah, well, I think and I've
said this before, she's a big personality. She takes up
a lot of oxygen in the room. And I feel
like people can breathe now and that the women can
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show their side of their personalities and get to shine
and without you know, the light being stolen. So I've
been around Bethany and it's a lot. She comes on
full on, and so that was the same when you
were filming. It's it's just a lot of presents. It's
a it's a lot of Bethany. Yeah, and she's a
strong personality and I'm all for it. But you know,
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I feel like this season, because she's not there, the
women have a place to express themselves and show more
of their personality and and I think this I gotta
tell you is the best season yet. Tell me what
it looks like. Bethany who I mean, Bethany has an
incredible talent. I think she's a great reality the moment. Listen,
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Bethany is a good reality star, right she she just
dies and there's nobody. Well, it does get annoying because
you know, you're like, well, what about what I said?
I want? What about what I have to say? You know?
So I feel like this season you're really going to
get to know us a lot better because there's more
room and and I feel like people are going to
really love the New Housewife. What's one of the worst
things about not having Bethany there? If you ever you
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lost a friend or if you lost the director. Bethany
liked to think of herself as a producer. Right, well,
she was never a producer. But you know, listen, I
liked going toe to her with Bethany. It was fun.
Is that what you know? And that well I missed
that part sure, sure. And then you know, there was
the good times. We had a lot of good times
Bethany and I and she helped me and I won't
forget that time. Sure, So those things, you know, I
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don't forget, and I wish her well, but I must say, like,
you know, this season is really phenomenal and I can't
wait for everyone to see it and for Bethany to
see it. It feels to me just watching the trailer,
I haven't I haven't seen seen it yet. It feels
like the Joys back in the Housewives. For a moment,
it got really go me and got a little bit
too cruel for me as a viewer. Yes, now it
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feels like it's campy and funny and silly. A yeah,
I mean, we have a lot of fun this season.
You know, there's always the drama, but I feel like
it was heavy and and it's not heavy, it's it's
a lot lighter. Do you still talk to her? I
haven't spoken to Bethany off camera, not as not friends
so well, just ships in the night ships, in the
night ships in a night Yeah. We all have our
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lane and and she's doing hers and I'm in my lane.
You know, I've been very busy, just taking care of
myself and my family and enjoying some free time before
I go back on tour. Bethany just said to Riety,
everyone thinks I left because of money. Actually, money was
the reason she stayed. She said she made an astronomical sum.
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Are you aware of what each other lady makes? I'm
I'm I know more or less what she makes, and
I don't know, but I heard through the grapevine it
was contractual, so I assume it's about money. It's about money.
Did she want more money? Well, who doesn't want more money?
And so she was so no at some point and
she left, So I don't think she expected it to
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go that way. Are you aware of what all the
ladies make on the show? And this is a little
comfortable for me. I never taught money. I don't mean
either class characters of money are the other ladies? The
new ladies don't earn? Of course? Why why should they
earn the same as as me who has been around
for twelve years? Exactly where the DoD they get a
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little bit, you know, I think that, Um, I don't
think there's jealousy. I think there is determination on on
house rice parts to want to make more and want
to you know, be valued. So they see it as
an opportunity like one day I can on the day
I can make money. Sure you and bethany similar amounts
I guess you know, I don't like to talk about money. Yes,
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God knows I'm worth it. What would it take for
you to leave the show? You gave me a little
bit of a fright. You put something on Instagram, you did,
and it involved Andy Cohen and you called it the
two O G s and O G is original cast
but so so meaning that that Andy has been around
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obviously from the very beginning, because he, you know, produces,
and uh and that's all that I meant. And I think,
oh my god, is she leaving too on? So would
you would you leave? Do you see a time in
your life after twelve seasons? Well, listen, I mean sure,
there's a time for everything. So you know, at some
point I will leave the show to carry on, go
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on the road with my cabaret across the international you know,
coastline to coastline, Australia. Here you come, Britain. Is this
still fun or is there a job? Um? It is
still fun. It is still fun. If I wasn't having fun,
I wouldn't do the show. Really, Why do you think
so many of the original ladies have left? There's not
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that many left for a lot of the reasons, you know, Um,
you know, there's you know, family, there's you know, lots
of reasons why I women leave and some of them
are not invited that, let's be honest. Some of them
are cut well. I feel like, you know, there's a
time for everything, and I feel like sometimes when you leave,
you know, it's very hard to come back in terms
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of the dynamic changing because when you bring in new people,
the dynamic changes, and then sometimes you don't fit anymore.
So you like this dynamic. This is your favorite cast
at the moment um. Listen, I'm loving the cast this season.
We are as numerous, so I think that's fun too.
There's a little bit exactly exact, a bit of a
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spot if you could bring one of the ladies back,
who would it be? Oh, you know the answer to that.
Jill's hearin. You just do and you will see her
this season on this She Why hasn't she you know,
I don't know. It's a boss decision, that's the boss.
But you would have it back in a second, absolutely,
And I brought her back on this. It's a real friendship.
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It's not a Bethany friendship. You don't speak and I
have known each other from the very beginning. Um, Jill
is the real deal, love it or not love it,
and so we're we remained friends all this time. I'd
like to see her back to Tinsley. She's leaving the show,
got engaged off her game boyfriend Scotts, moved to Chicago, right,
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Do you think they'll my kids? Do you know? You know,
I hope for her because you know, I don't really
know Scott that well. I don't really know their dynamic
that well, but I know that they have a great
time and that that's what Tinsley desperately wants is to
be married and have a family. So I think it's great. Yeah,
trying disapproves. I approve there. And then we have a
new lady, Leah McSweeney. Tell me about her. Do you
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like her? I do like her because I feel like
she's the real deal. She's um, she's a mother, she's um,
she's an entrepreneur, owns her own business, so I think
she's a strong woman. At the same time, she's vulnerable.
So we'll get to see that part of her because
it's tricky, you know, immediately as an audience member, the
ones that don't really kind of fit right, No, she's
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fit in. Yeah, she fit in from really the get
go when I first met her. And I'm very good
like that, you know what I mean. I when I
meet people and very quick to know if they're the
real deal or not. And I was like, she's the
real Do they come on too strong, like if you're
a new cast member joining a group and forget the house.
I was just in life here when I meet a
group of friends and I'm the new guy, if you
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come on too strong, You're gonna put people off. It's
a tricky thing to do, a very tricky it's I
call it the highwire act. If you don't if you
look too much exactly, there's no safety net. So it's
not easy. It's not an easy role to to walk into. Um.
But I think she managed very well. Do you know
the girls now that come on the show looking for
fame and fortunes and the ones that are there for
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all the other reasons, you know, And it's funny that
you talk about that, is like, sometimes people overdo it.
But the point that I think the most important thing
is just to be yourself. And you know, some of
them don't come on strong enough. They disappear into the background. Yeah,
there's just a none event. There was somebody that was
an event planner once that was on the season exactly.
And I think and I think, you know, sometimes will
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come in and they think, you know, oh, you know,
I don't have to go to this level or whatever.
But the point is you have to defend yourself. People
do defend themselves. You have to be able to laugh
at yourself. I think a sense of humor is really important.
If you're going to be a housewife, you have to
learn to let it roll off your back. Thick Skins
TV show you put on the ships to produced. I
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was told you have to fight for your life at
the reunion shows. Truth. Well, you know, I just think
the reunion is the last word. It's kind of like
the last supper. Either either you have some bread or
you're gonna or you're gonna start. So this is your
last chance, your last chance to set the record straight
and to prove that you need to come back and
keep going. I don't think it's to prove. I think
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it's to relate to the fans. It's a place where
you can air out your grievances, meaning like it didn't
come across that way on the show. This season is me.
This is how I really felt, and this is what
I really meant. And you know, whether it's I'm sorry,
thank you, or whatever it is, it's your opportunity. Let's
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talk a little bit about love. Are you dating? Um?
I am not really? You know, I'm not dating. I
have you know, um, someone special in my life? Who
is I happened to work with? And uh? And what
do I like to say about that? Is not your boyfriend?
Then you don't use that term. I don't use boyfriend
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now he's near and dear to me. After the marriage,
the divorce, can you see yourself getting married again? You know,
I'm a hopeless romantic, so I never say never. Uh.
You know, listen, I'm not in a big hurry to
put it that way. Difficult now for guys to approach you.
The success of the show, your your level of fame
now is it? Maybe think it's really hard, but it is.
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I think it's really hard because it's scary. Not only
is that, you know, dealing with my who I am,
but it's also dealing with you know, the press. You
can all know hang about you. You can't have any
skeletons in your closet. Let's put it that way, right.
(16:08):
It's so interesting. What's a perfect date? My perfect date
is really being authentic. So you know, I love somebody
who makes me laugh, who likes to cook, who likes
to have fun. Of course, not you know, fancy, but
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but well mannered. Obviously well mannered is important to me.
Somebody who knows how how to walk into a room,
and you know how to treat a lady fashion. I
am very old fashioned when it comes to that. Absolutely.
That's why I don't really date younger men. Oh, that's interesting,
like the gentleman that we've we've yet to give a
title to, who you are very fond of. Will we
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see him on the show? No, speaking of love? Speaking
of love, Derinda and John took a break. I liked
John on the show. I don't know him that well.
Is he back miss season? Do we get to see
him at all? You'll have to find out. I can't
give it that I already gave you to me. You
give us too much. We're gonna take a break. But
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before we do the break tease this season. So you've
said it's more fun, you've said it's more campy. All
the ladies get a chance to to shine a little bit.
What else about this season should we definitely? You know
it's um, It's it's really just the relationships that happened,
the bonding that happens. I think it's very relatable because
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we all have the same struggles, sometimes not the same,
but similar struggles. And I think that people are just
going to enjoy being on the ride with us, um
And you know, I call it the roller coaster filled
with ups and downs and surprises. So I want everyone
to be surprised. I can't wait. We're gonna take a
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quick break when we come back. We've got a little
twist and our nicest and naughtiest of the day. Welcome back.
I'm here with Lu and less I got it right.
So this is the part of the show where we
always do the nicest and the naughtiest of the day,
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but we're gonna do a little twist on it today
and turn the tables on you. So this is the
nicest of the day. Who is the nicest housewife and
why cannot be you? I would say probably Sonia is
the nicest housewife. She doesn't have a mean bone in
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her body. She can make some diggs, but in general,
I would say this song is the nicest house. What's
been the nicest moment of the show for you? Is
there a little bit of video that you watch and
you just think. I must say one of my favorite
moments was singing with an at La Cale and having
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my son Bringer down the staircase and to the stage,
and you know, I was with Jacques and it was
just a beautiful moment in time. So it's probably one
of my favorites. You got finish that I can't tell you, okay?
Is that? Is that one of the joys of being
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on a reality show for ten years a decade your
life has been documented forever. Yeah, you know, it's funny.
I was watching the first season of the show and
I got such such melancholy over my house, you know,
the old house in bridge Hampton, which I hadn't thought
about it in a while, and I was like, wow,
that was such a beautiful home. I kind of missed
it as much as I loved my new home. I
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just had a moment where like, it was so beautiful
and you know, and it's really after twelve seasons, I
have a living photo album of my life then not
so pretty moments, but there's also really good moments. You know,
people tend to forge and about the good ship and
they remember the bad stuff. I think you do that
in general. I think that so we should stop that
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and remember the good things. You know, There's been so
many good moments on the Housewives, and people tend to
remember the bad one. That's a lovely moment to remember.
Let's do a naughtiest of the day. Who's the naughtiest
housewife and why, oh my gosh, the naughtiest and the newest.
Let's give her the title of the NAT's naught naughty
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fun And then what's been one of the naughtiest moments
on the show for you? What's been like a regret
or something you've seen that you're like, Oh, I wish
that footage didn't exist. Oh well, you know the famous
right in the back of the least car. Although Dorenda
said it was so funny, Direnda goes Luian I had
to read the article three times and get another coffee
because it was so good. Her favorite part is when
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I slipped out of the handcuffs. How did you slip
out of that? Well? They put him on loosely because
they didn't want to hurt me. They didn't want to
hurt the white woman in back of the back of
the car, the counters from New York. Do you know
what I'm saying, It's like, let's make sure we take
you know, we don't hurt her was able to slip out.
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There you go, and now my moment to Rob on
the show, we try to give you an inspirational moment.
We want to end the show with something nice. We
normally give you a quote, maybe from me or from
from from a big celebrity. So today we're gonna do
a little bit of twist on it, and we're going
to give you the taglines from different ladies on the
show and see if you can guess who they are
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New York. All of them cool, Animal Control because there's
a cougar on the Lucy and Clue. There's a cool Tamera. Kelly. Okay, Kelly.
Do you know Kelly? I do know Kelly A good person.
We like her. Um, yeah, I don't know where that well,
but I like her. Yeah. Diamonds aren't als best friend.
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Freedom is terrible that these were New York. Kyle close,
It's Beverly Hills, It's Camille, Grandma, Grandma. I was close
close enough. Age is an issue of mind over matter.
If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. Ramona Rama. Ramona
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just awful in person. She's ageless. She's been there since
day once. You've known her for twelve years now, well yeah, yeah,
I've the delight of knowing Ramona for twelve years. I do.
Is it exhausted? She is? You know what, Ramona? I
have to tell you, out of all the house, has
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the most energy. She may be the oldest, but let
me tell you that girl's got a lot of energy.
It's unbelievable. She's like getting ready to go out. She's
full of bean. She's unbelievable. Have you tasted her pinot?
I did? Is it in the Countess's cabinet at home? No?
You just see if you can get this one, because
she drank it off. There's no more pano effort me
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by supply of see if you get this one. I'm
not a housewife, but I am real. I'm not a
house I am really. Who said that? It's a tagline
on your season? She is in your Wait wait what
is it again? She said? Oh, Derenda, it's Beverly Frank,
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I forget How soon we forget that? I think you
wanted to forget that one. I think you'll never think
of that one again. Okay, so if you get this one,
I tell it like it is, but I always make
it nice. Well that's Direnda. I love her. Yeah, I
don't have to buy it because I already own it. Kyle,
it's Lisa Redda. You've got so far that Beverly Hills.
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We got two more left. I have a taste for luxury,
and luxury has a taste for me. Sonya, there's something
about her. She's just like an aperfescent. She's just so
happy all the time. Yeah, she's the real deal. I
like making my own money. I find it on Afrodusia. No,
that's m a singer, and you must get this one.
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If you can't be cool, you can't be with Well
that's that goes without saying. Do you write these are? Are?
Are they given to you these times? No? No, No,
we're very involved. But again we don't see the episodes
before the season actually starts airing. You take a week before,
so you type a bunch of taglines and you don't
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really know which one they're going to do exactly, because
you know it's they're pulling stories together, so it's like
we share ideas and come to you collaborate on it,
but ultimately they decide which one. Do you know what
your title in is for this season? I do and
I love it. I'm hope you guys love it. Fun,
it's fun, does its vol drinking? No good? Okay? For today,
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Be nice with rab A production of I Heart Radio Special.
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Take care of everybody. It's not even nice with ra
Hello, Hello, Hello, it's your friend Rob shoot her here.
Before we get to today's very special episode, I want
to let you know that this was recorded before we
all began social distancing. However, we wanted to bring you
this special episode with lu Ane. I've known her for
quite a while and she's never been more open and
funny and cheeky. Lots of scoop about the housewives, even
(00:22):
though I was shocked and I thought I knew everything.
So hopefully for the next twenty minutes or so, you
can sit back, enjoy, laugh, giggle, and escape everything else
that's going on in the world. Advice Spice. It's time. Hello, Hello, hello, lo, Hello,
(00:49):
Welcome to the naught even Nice Show. I'm Rob shoot
At your host. We bring you celebrity gossip here Monday
through Thursday, all the best gossip. But today we're going
to change our format a little bit because we have
a special guests here today, Countess Luan del Cepps. Thank
you very much. Countess with an s from the Real
Hanneswives of New York is joining us to chat all
(01:10):
house my good morning, I'm good. You know what I've
been up to is just relaxing. I've been so busy
filming The Housewives it's airing April second, and um and
on my tour with my cabaret show. So it's been
very busy, but but great. And I've had a bit
of a hiatus, which I really enjoyed spending time with
(01:32):
my children because I do have two children aside from
everything else I do. UM And so I've been traveling
with my daughter Victoria and we were out in l
A and that was just relaxing. We did some Kundalini yoga,
which I've gotten into and it just keeps my head
screwed on straight, do you know what I mean? And
you know, on top of that, you know, I have
(01:54):
this dance song coming out with Desmond Child that's in
the work. So UM, busy, busy, busy, but good. What's
that I hear? It's the chimes of Big Ben, which
means only one thing on this show. It means it
is tea time. So today we're gonna get the tear
straight from lou Anne herself. Lou Am, that trailer has
(02:16):
been out a few weeks now, and you are the
highlight of the trailer. You think you are, And let
me tell you why you haven't seen the trailer. I
know you will have there's a minute on the trailer
where it looks like you're having a drink of vodka.
What's going on? Well, I mean, so the inside scoop is,
you know, I drink on occasion, and I've no longer
(02:37):
in probation. I gotten through a really rough time and
so now I'm in the driver's seat and I can decide,
you know, for myself, and so I drink on occasion.
I'll say that, and um, and I'm feeling really good,
you know right now. You know it's been I haven't
been drinking for the last month, so I've been doing
yoga and you know, just taking care of myself. So,
(03:00):
like I said, it's it's really occasional. Now do you
know what's going to be in the trailer or do
you see it when we see it? I see it
when you see it. You don't have Eddie's approval or
the house. I've said it all. I mean, can you
imagine you have seven house WHI squabbling over Oh my god,
I don't like the way I look. Can we can
we use that instead? I mean, it would be insane.
So they just send it to They send it you
(03:21):
an hour in a vance or no, you just literally
see it when we we literally see it when you
see it, Did you like this trailer or you because
you are like it's it's all about you in the trailer?
That drink moment was big because of the history you
come through. Sort it was the moment everyone's been talking about. Right,
does it feel odd? Or did you know they were
going to use that you've done this? Well? I knew
(03:42):
it was going to come up at some point. Did
I know they were going to use it in the trailer?
And not really like I've seen the show? Not really?
Um no, So I see it like you do. And
so I was just as surprised as you were in
terms of, you know, oh, okay, they played that moment
where you know, I do have a drink with the
girls and um, and I feel like I've had a
reboot in my life and and I've gotten to a
(04:04):
great place and so um, I'm doing you know, I'm
doing great. Was it a conscious decision? It stace this
head on like you're not showing away from this. It
was it was a decision that actually, in that moment,
there was no conscious decision. I you know, thought it
was water then I found out it was vodka, and
then I was like, you know what, I'm free. I
(04:25):
can do what I want. So I had one vodka
drink that night and soda. Big deal. It wasn't like
I was chugging vodka. You know, I just said to myself,
you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give myself that leeway.
I'm gonna give myself a break after what I've been through.
And so far, so good. The cast of the show.
You know, my fellow housewives have not judged me at all.
(04:46):
They've They've been like, you know what, LOUI support you
whatever you decide you want to do. Drinking on that
show has been so much of the decade of the show.
Of course, I did so much fun to right. Has
that changed the way you filmed? Is it going to
see any difference in Luan, Well, you're going to see
me start off in a situation where I'm still going
through it and arrived to the place at the end
(05:09):
of the season where I'm in control of the situation.
So it's not them that's in control, it's me, and
ultimately that's you know, that's the most important thing. It's
been a really good place I'm in a great place.
It leaving along Bethanie Frankel is not returning. So Bethany
has been on the show since day one, like you,
(05:31):
but she left and came back. I think exactly. She
started the show with you, Ramona, and Bethanie. I think
of the three originals on the New York. What's it
like without having her there? What was filming like with that? Bethany,
she's a big personality. Yeah, well, I think and I've
said this before, she's a big personality. She takes up
a lot of oxygen in the room. And I feel
like people can breathe now and that the women can
(05:52):
show their side of their personalities and get to shine
and without you know, the light being stolen. So I've
been around Bethany and it's a lot. She comes on
full on, and so that was the same when you
were filming. It's it's just a lot of presents. It's
a it's a lot of Bethany. Yeah, and she's a
strong personality and I'm all for it. But you know,
(06:12):
I feel like this season, because she's not there, the
women have a place to express themselves and show more
of their personality and and I think this I gotta
tell you is the best season yet. Tell me what
it looks like. Bethany who I mean, Bethany has an
incredible talent. I think she's a great reality the moment. Listen,
(06:36):
Bethany is a good reality star, right she she just
dies and there's nobody. Well, it does get annoying because
you know, you're like, well, what about what I said?
I want? What about what I have to say? You know?
So I feel like this season you're really going to
get to know us a lot better because there's more
room and and I feel like people are going to
really love the New Housewife. What's one of the worst
things about not having Bethany there? If you ever you
(06:58):
lost a friend or if you lost the director. Bethany
liked to think of herself as a producer. Right, well,
she was never a producer. But you know, listen, I
liked going toe to her with Bethany. It was fun.
Is that what you know? And that well I missed
that part sure, sure. And then you know, there was
the good times. We had a lot of good times
Bethany and I and she helped me and I won't
forget that time. Sure, So those things, you know, I
(07:23):
don't forget, and I wish her well, but I must say, like,
you know, this season is really phenomenal and I can't
wait for everyone to see it and for Bethany to
see it. It feels to me just watching the trailer,
I haven't I haven't seen seen it yet. It feels
like the Joys back in the Housewives. For a moment,
it got really go me and got a little bit
too cruel for me as a viewer. Yes, now it
(07:44):
feels like it's campy and funny and silly. A yeah,
I mean, we have a lot of fun this season.
You know, there's always the drama, but I feel like
it was heavy and and it's not heavy, it's it's
a lot lighter. Do you still talk to her? I
haven't spoken to Bethany off camera, not as not friends
so well, just ships in the night ships, in the
night ships in a night Yeah. We all have our
(08:05):
lane and and she's doing hers and I'm in my lane.
You know, I've been very busy, just taking care of
myself and my family and enjoying some free time before
I go back on tour. Bethany just said to Riety,
everyone thinks I left because of money. Actually, money was
the reason she stayed. She said she made an astronomical sum.
(08:26):
Are you aware of what each other lady makes? I'm
I'm I know more or less what she makes, and
I don't know, but I heard through the grapevine it
was contractual, so I assume it's about money. It's about money.
Did she want more money? Well, who doesn't want more money?
And so she was so no at some point and
she left, So I don't think she expected it to
(08:49):
go that way. Are you aware of what all the
ladies make on the show? And this is a little
comfortable for me. I never taught money. I don't mean
either class characters of money are the other ladies? The
new ladies don't earn? Of course? Why why should they
earn the same as as me who has been around
for twelve years? Exactly where the DoD they get a
(09:12):
little bit, you know, I think that, Um, I don't
think there's jealousy. I think there is determination on on
house rice parts to want to make more and want
to you know, be valued. So they see it as
an opportunity like one day I can on the day
I can make money. Sure you and bethany similar amounts
I guess you know, I don't like to talk about money. Yes,
(09:37):
God knows I'm worth it. What would it take for
you to leave the show? You gave me a little
bit of a fright. You put something on Instagram, you did,
and it involved Andy Cohen and you called it the
two O G s and O G is original cast
but so so meaning that that Andy has been around
(09:59):
obviously from the very beginning, because he, you know, produces,
and uh and that's all that I meant. And I think,
oh my god, is she leaving too on? So would
you would you leave? Do you see a time in
your life after twelve seasons? Well, listen, I mean sure,
there's a time for everything. So you know, at some
point I will leave the show to carry on, go
(10:21):
on the road with my cabaret across the international you know,
coastline to coastline, Australia. Here you come, Britain. Is this
still fun or is there a job? Um? It is
still fun. It is still fun. If I wasn't having fun,
I wouldn't do the show. Really, Why do you think
so many of the original ladies have left? There's not
(10:45):
that many left for a lot of the reasons, you know, Um,
you know, there's you know, family, there's you know, lots
of reasons why I women leave and some of them
are not invited that, let's be honest. Some of them
are cut well. I feel like, you know, there's a
time for everything, and I feel like sometimes when you leave,
you know, it's very hard to come back in terms
(11:07):
of the dynamic changing because when you bring in new people,
the dynamic changes, and then sometimes you don't fit anymore.
So you like this dynamic. This is your favorite cast
at the moment um. Listen, I'm loving the cast this season.
We are as numerous, so I think that's fun too.
There's a little bit exactly exact, a bit of a
(11:28):
spot if you could bring one of the ladies back,
who would it be? Oh, you know the answer to that.
Jill's hearin. You just do and you will see her
this season on this She Why hasn't she you know,
I don't know. It's a boss decision, that's the boss.
But you would have it back in a second, absolutely,
And I brought her back on this. It's a real friendship.
(11:51):
It's not a Bethany friendship. You don't speak and I
have known each other from the very beginning. Um, Jill
is the real deal, love it or not love it,
and so we're we remained friends all this time. I'd
like to see her back to Tinsley. She's leaving the show,
got engaged off her game boyfriend Scotts, moved to Chicago, right,
(12:12):
Do you think they'll my kids? Do you know? You know,
I hope for her because you know, I don't really
know Scott that well. I don't really know their dynamic
that well, but I know that they have a great
time and that that's what Tinsley desperately wants is to
be married and have a family. So I think it's great. Yeah,
trying disapproves. I approve there. And then we have a
new lady, Leah McSweeney. Tell me about her. Do you
(12:34):
like her? I do like her because I feel like
she's the real deal. She's um, she's a mother, she's um,
she's an entrepreneur, owns her own business, so I think
she's a strong woman. At the same time, she's vulnerable.
So we'll get to see that part of her because
it's tricky, you know, immediately as an audience member, the
ones that don't really kind of fit right, No, she's
(12:55):
fit in. Yeah, she fit in from really the get
go when I first met her. And I'm very good
like that, you know what I mean. I when I
meet people and very quick to know if they're the
real deal or not. And I was like, she's the
real Do they come on too strong, like if you're
a new cast member joining a group and forget the house.
I was just in life here when I meet a
group of friends and I'm the new guy, if you
(13:16):
come on too strong, You're gonna put people off. It's
a tricky thing to do, a very tricky it's I
call it the highwire act. If you don't if you
look too much exactly, there's no safety net. So it's
not easy. It's not an easy role to to walk into. Um.
But I think she managed very well. Do you know
the girls now that come on the show looking for
fame and fortunes and the ones that are there for
(13:37):
all the other reasons, you know, And it's funny that
you talk about that, is like, sometimes people overdo it.
But the point that I think the most important thing
is just to be yourself. And you know, some of
them don't come on strong enough. They disappear into the background. Yeah,
there's just a none event. There was somebody that was
an event planner once that was on the season exactly.
And I think and I think, you know, sometimes will
(14:00):
come in and they think, you know, oh, you know,
I don't have to go to this level or whatever.
But the point is you have to defend yourself. People
do defend themselves. You have to be able to laugh
at yourself. I think a sense of humor is really important.
If you're going to be a housewife, you have to
learn to let it roll off your back. Thick Skins
TV show you put on the ships to produced. I
(14:22):
was told you have to fight for your life at
the reunion shows. Truth. Well, you know, I just think
the reunion is the last word. It's kind of like
the last supper. Either either you have some bread or
you're gonna or you're gonna start. So this is your
last chance, your last chance to set the record straight
and to prove that you need to come back and
keep going. I don't think it's to prove. I think
(14:44):
it's to relate to the fans. It's a place where
you can air out your grievances, meaning like it didn't
come across that way on the show. This season is me.
This is how I really felt, and this is what
I really meant. And you know, whether it's I'm sorry,
thank you, or whatever it is, it's your opportunity. Let's
(15:05):
talk a little bit about love. Are you dating? Um?
I am not really? You know, I'm not dating. I
have you know, um, someone special in my life? Who
is I happened to work with? And uh? And what
do I like to say about that? Is not your boyfriend?
Then you don't use that term. I don't use boyfriend
(15:25):
now he's near and dear to me. After the marriage,
the divorce, can you see yourself getting married again? You know,
I'm a hopeless romantic, so I never say never. Uh.
You know, listen, I'm not in a big hurry to
put it that way. Difficult now for guys to approach you.
The success of the show, your your level of fame
now is it? Maybe think it's really hard, but it is.
(15:48):
I think it's really hard because it's scary. Not only
is that, you know, dealing with my who I am,
but it's also dealing with you know, the press. You
can all know hang about you. You can't have any
skeletons in your closet. Let's put it that way, right.
(16:08):
It's so interesting. What's a perfect date? My perfect date
is really being authentic. So you know, I love somebody
who makes me laugh, who likes to cook, who likes
to have fun. Of course, not you know, fancy, but
(16:33):
but well mannered. Obviously well mannered is important to me.
Somebody who knows how how to walk into a room,
and you know how to treat a lady fashion. I
am very old fashioned when it comes to that. Absolutely.
That's why I don't really date younger men. Oh, that's interesting,
like the gentleman that we've we've yet to give a
title to, who you are very fond of. Will we
(16:54):
see him on the show? No, speaking of love? Speaking
of love, Derinda and John took a break. I liked
John on the show. I don't know him that well.
Is he back miss season? Do we get to see
him at all? You'll have to find out. I can't
give it that I already gave you to me. You
give us too much. We're gonna take a break. But
(17:15):
before we do the break tease this season. So you've
said it's more fun, you've said it's more campy. All
the ladies get a chance to to shine a little bit.
What else about this season should we definitely? You know
it's um, It's it's really just the relationships that happened,
the bonding that happens. I think it's very relatable because
(17:38):
we all have the same struggles, sometimes not the same,
but similar struggles. And I think that people are just
going to enjoy being on the ride with us, um
And you know, I call it the roller coaster filled
with ups and downs and surprises. So I want everyone
to be surprised. I can't wait. We're gonna take a
(17:58):
quick break when we come back. We've got a little
twist and our nicest and naughtiest of the day. Welcome back.
I'm here with Lu and less I got it right.
So this is the part of the show where we
always do the nicest and the naughtiest of the day,
(18:20):
but we're gonna do a little twist on it today
and turn the tables on you. So this is the
nicest of the day. Who is the nicest housewife and
why cannot be you? I would say probably Sonia is
the nicest housewife. She doesn't have a mean bone in
(18:41):
her body. She can make some diggs, but in general,
I would say this song is the nicest house. What's
been the nicest moment of the show for you? Is
there a little bit of video that you watch and
you just think. I must say one of my favorite
moments was singing with an at La Cale and having
(19:01):
my son Bringer down the staircase and to the stage,
and you know, I was with Jacques and it was
just a beautiful moment in time. So it's probably one
of my favorites. You got finish that I can't tell you, okay?
Is that? Is that one of the joys of being
(19:22):
on a reality show for ten years a decade your
life has been documented forever. Yeah, you know, it's funny.
I was watching the first season of the show and
I got such such melancholy over my house, you know,
the old house in bridge Hampton, which I hadn't thought
about it in a while, and I was like, wow,
that was such a beautiful home. I kind of missed
it as much as I loved my new home. I
(19:44):
just had a moment where like, it was so beautiful
and you know, and it's really after twelve seasons, I
have a living photo album of my life then not
so pretty moments, but there's also really good moments. You know,
people tend to forge and about the good ship and
they remember the bad stuff. I think you do that
in general. I think that so we should stop that
(20:06):
and remember the good things. You know, There's been so
many good moments on the Housewives, and people tend to
remember the bad one. That's a lovely moment to remember.
Let's do a naughtiest of the day. Who's the naughtiest
housewife and why, oh my gosh, the naughtiest and the newest.
Let's give her the title of the NAT's naught naughty
(20:30):
fun And then what's been one of the naughtiest moments
on the show for you? What's been like a regret
or something you've seen that you're like, Oh, I wish
that footage didn't exist. Oh well, you know the famous
right in the back of the least car. Although Dorenda
said it was so funny, Direnda goes Luian I had
to read the article three times and get another coffee
because it was so good. Her favorite part is when
(20:52):
I slipped out of the handcuffs. How did you slip
out of that? Well? They put him on loosely because
they didn't want to hurt me. They didn't want to
hurt the white woman in back of the back of
the car, the counters from New York. Do you know
what I'm saying, It's like, let's make sure we take
you know, we don't hurt her was able to slip out.
(21:14):
There you go, and now my moment to Rob on
the show, we try to give you an inspirational moment.
We want to end the show with something nice. We
normally give you a quote, maybe from me or from
from from a big celebrity. So today we're gonna do
a little bit of twist on it, and we're going
to give you the taglines from different ladies on the
show and see if you can guess who they are
(21:37):
New York. All of them cool, Animal Control because there's
a cougar on the Lucy and Clue. There's a cool Tamera. Kelly. Okay, Kelly.
Do you know Kelly? I do know Kelly A good person.
We like her. Um, yeah, I don't know where that well,
but I like her. Yeah. Diamonds aren't als best friend.
(22:01):
Freedom is terrible that these were New York. Kyle close,
It's Beverly Hills, It's Camille, Grandma, Grandma. I was close
close enough. Age is an issue of mind over matter.
If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. Ramona Rama. Ramona
(22:24):
just awful in person. She's ageless. She's been there since
day once. You've known her for twelve years now, well yeah, yeah,
I've the delight of knowing Ramona for twelve years. I do.
Is it exhausted? She is? You know what, Ramona? I
have to tell you, out of all the house, has
(22:44):
the most energy. She may be the oldest, but let
me tell you that girl's got a lot of energy.
It's unbelievable. She's like getting ready to go out. She's
full of bean. She's unbelievable. Have you tasted her pinot?
I did? Is it in the Countess's cabinet at home? No?
You just see if you can get this one, because
she drank it off. There's no more pano effort me
(23:09):
by supply of see if you get this one. I'm
not a housewife, but I am real. I'm not a
house I am really. Who said that? It's a tagline
on your season? She is in your Wait wait what
is it again? She said? Oh, Derenda, it's Beverly Frank,
(23:31):
I forget How soon we forget that? I think you
wanted to forget that one. I think you'll never think
of that one again. Okay, so if you get this one,
I tell it like it is, but I always make
it nice. Well that's Direnda. I love her. Yeah, I
don't have to buy it because I already own it. Kyle,
it's Lisa Redda. You've got so far that Beverly Hills.
(23:55):
We got two more left. I have a taste for luxury,
and luxury has a taste for me. Sonya, there's something
about her. She's just like an aperfescent. She's just so
happy all the time. Yeah, she's the real deal. I
like making my own money. I find it on Afrodusia. No,
that's m a singer, and you must get this one.
(24:15):
If you can't be cool, you can't be with Well
that's that goes without saying. Do you write these are? Are?
Are they given to you these times? No? No, No,
we're very involved. But again we don't see the episodes
before the season actually starts airing. You take a week before,
so you type a bunch of taglines and you don't
(24:36):
really know which one they're going to do exactly, because
you know it's they're pulling stories together, so it's like
we share ideas and come to you collaborate on it,
but ultimately they decide which one. Do you know what
your title in is for this season? I do and
I love it. I'm hope you guys love it. Fun,
it's fun, does its vol drinking? No good? Okay? For today,
(25:00):
we love having you here. Listen, everybody check and naughty
Be nice with rab A production of I Heart Radio Special.
Thanks to our producer Mary do An, executive producer Christina Everett,
editing help by Josh Fisher, also Nikki e Tour, Will Pierson,
man gesh head Tick, Adore and everybody had I Heeart
(25:22):
to help bring the show to your ears. And a
very special thanks to Mr Barry Manlow and Bruce Sussman
for writing and producing a theme song. And don't forget
to subscribe on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast
or wherever you listen and leave us a review. And remember,
if you're going to be naughty, you've got to be nice.
(25:43):
Take care of everybody. It's not even nice with ra
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