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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Advice, sugar spice, It's time hell.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Level live loll Welcome to the Naughty Vanica. I'm your
house drum shooter. And it is Wednesday, which means a
dear friend Donny meetscham joined us. Hey, Donnie, are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hello La La Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is the week after the holidays?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
HOLI Dace.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Did you have a nice holiday? Did you spend?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We had a friend of mine from high school actually
was here.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well that's a long time, though, isn't.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I've known literally, we've known each other.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You thirty over, I'd say over thirty fifty.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh, she's birthday here, but she was escaping her husband.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know, she's fleeing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I like that. You hold on to your friend, You
really do for somebody who was as unreliable as you. Donnay,
when it comes to friends, you hold on to them. Yeah,
but you know what, I think it's a nice I
don't mean.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's I don't mean there's braggadotus or anything. My friends
hold on to me, And I think that says something
about that, Like big people would say, yes, my friends,
I'm a good friend, and I will I'm a good
friend say that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, that's did I make that all about me?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I do, well, of course he did.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He's wicked into my show. What time is it?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
My friends?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It is Tea Times and Matt Lauer, no surprise, wants
to come back to media. So people my seen him
report in this. I've been reporting this basically for eight
years since the day he left the Today Show. He
misses it. He wants to come back, but he is
the catch. The media that Matt wants to come back
to doesn't exist anymore. Legacy media.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Those days of earning fifteen million dollars a year, it
is over. They just don't get the viewers. Cable news
is in terrible trouble. What is Matt going to do?
Is he going to join TikTok? Is he going to
get a YouTube channel? He's going to be Don Lemon.
He's not going to be interviewing people in the street.
Megan Kelly is doing really, really well, but she's saying
very controversial stuff and that gets her. Like, Matt isn't
a controversial person. What he did was very controversial, but
(02:11):
he's kind of down the middle. He's kind of like
a little bit sort of normal, and I think that
that's what in this world we live in with the housewives,
was Megan Kelly, with people screaming at us. I think
it's going to be very hard for Matt to find
a job. Several years ago, I was the first one
to report that he was in talks with C and N.
Jeff Zucker, who used to be the executive producer of
(02:32):
The Today Show when Matt was on, took over C
and N. So there were friends. They've known each other
for thirty forty years, and so they were talking, but
there was no job at seeing N. I just don't
see where he's going to go. If you think of
all the places now where people pop up, let's go
over them. YouTube. He's not doing that, reality TV, he
ain't doing Dancing with the Stars. It's not going to happen.
(02:52):
Legacy media, fantastic, but where they don't exist anymore, and
they're certainly not paying the money that Matt was earning
what a decade ago. So he's not scrappy. He wants
a platform. One person told me he does not want
a ring light. A lot of us now, Donnie, are
sitting here doing podcasting, We're doing TikTok videos, We're doing
stuff on YouTube. We're throwing everything at the wall. Goodness knows.
(03:14):
I was never as successful as Matt, but I was
in the mainstream media for a very long time did
well in it. It was delicious. Those days are gone,
the days of going on those shows and making a
living from it, they just don't exist anymore because the
shows don't have the money they used to habits a
fraction of the viewers. So I totally get it. Yes,
Matt wants to come back. Hello, that ain't that great?
(03:36):
Bigger news, is it? Of course he wants to come back,
he misses it. The problem is what he wants to
come back to no longer exists. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean it's this.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is a dirty little secret now, you know, these podcasting this.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
It's not glamorous. What we do is not glamorous anymore.
It's like the days. I was talking about this with
a friend of mine too.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Is like the radio days like you used to go
in and the days of Elvis Duran having nineteen sidekicks
and four producers, and those days are over. You run
your own board, you produce your own stuff. You you know,
you find your own stories, You do everything yourself. But
I will say the media world that you know that
(04:25):
known as gone.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But do I think there is a space for him
to have a comeback? Oddly yes, do I care enough
that I would be tuning in?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I mean I'm because I unfortunately would never be able
to separate what I know about him from from you know.
But if there's anything America loves, I mean, hello, we
have the president for a second term, is a comeback story?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
America a comeback?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I still love a comeback. So Matt could beat that story.
But where would he do it? I was thinking about it,
and it's easy to roll your eyes at Don Lemon.
But Don does the work. He gets up every day
and sits in a closet and records a podcast like
we do, and then he goes out on the streets
and he makes his videos and he does he ticked
up in. He does all that. Matt doesn't want to
do the work. He wants to comeback without the work.
(05:17):
And he would be probably the first to admit that.
I don't think I'm dissinging him here begging Kelly not
my cup of tea. But I understand why she's successful.
She never stops. She just constantly keeps going do you remember, Donnie,
when I used to come up to Serious XM and
see you there. It was still glamorous. It was a
decade and it was so glamorous, and they used to
have free coffee and apple juices and orange juices and
(05:39):
sandwiches upstairs in the green room, and their studios were gorgeous,
and they had producers and the board. Somebody ran that
is not the case anymore. I know people who now
work at Sirious. They said, unless you work for Howard,
it's a very different beast. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, here's the thing though, if you think about it,
I mean, Serious is an option for Matt Lauer. They
are that afraid to, you know, bring back somebody controversial.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But even them, it's like they only have a smaller
budget now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because they realize, you know, hiring big names or whatever,
it doesn't that splashy anymore. Once you've done it once,
once you've done it twice.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
They gave Megan Kelly her own channel.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now maybe he shows them there, But once you've done
it so many times, it's just it loses its straw.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It does lose it.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Straw.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It does lose it straw, doesn't it Your absolutely right there?
And what Serious is looking for is to hire somebody
who comes with an audience. Yes, they want to hire
My Daddy podcast. They want to hire people who will
arrive with a massive audience. Matt hasn't had that audience
now in almost a decade, and so it's very very
unclear if he still has an audience. What would be
(06:53):
the way to get on Serious is to start a small,
independent podcast, Let it explode, and then they'll buy it.
That's how to do. Matt doesn't do small, and I
don't blame him for this. I don't If you've tasted
the big leaes. If you're Michael Jackson, you have sold
out Madison Square Garden, you ain't playing radio Sitner. You're
not going to radios. It's a great venue, it ain't
the garden. If you're Taylor Swift and you're doing stadiums,
(07:16):
you're not going to be in a supper club on
fifty sixth Streets. It's just not going to happen. So, Matt,
if you do want to do this, if you're listening
a Low and loa Loo, I've known you forever. I
know sometimes you've listened to the podcast. If you're listening
a lower loolo. Think about if you want to do
the work, do you want to be really scrappy again?
And that's what you have to do to survive this.
We know people who are no Matt Lauers. We know
(07:38):
people in this business who just didn't want to do
the work bad no, no legitimacy to float by like Matt.
He was a big star for a long time. It's
a lot of work and I just don't think Matt's
going to do, which brings us to our whole question
of the day. No surprise, Matt wants back on television. However,
the world he wants to return to doesn't exist anymore.
(07:59):
Would you watch Mat? If Matt came back in a
podcast on YouTube?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Would you watch?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
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Speaker 1 (08:15):
On the.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Sn L?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So Colin jokes, oh so delicious, adorable?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
My goodness, he's adorable and he's got that.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So if anybody's wondering the celebrity Jeopardy, everybody thought it
maybe it's no more, But it's actually moved to Netflix,
and so it is coming back. So I it was
on Amazon for a season but then it just kind
of disappeared, but it is coming back to Netflix, hosted
by Colin jos AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I move on.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So there is a little bit of a rumor mill
that you know he's at the Weakened anchor desk and
know Woody Allen jokes, no jokes about Allen, And it's
not really coming from Colin himself, it is coming from
Scarlet Scarlet Johansson, his wife, because Scarlett has.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Once again she doubled down.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
She has supported Woody Allen for a really long time,
showed up in his movies.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And so therefore, Noboody.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Alan jokes and he's not No, he's not walking around
going don't talk about Woody, don't talk about Woody.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's just it's known now behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I have no Barry Manelow jokes on this podcast because
of my husband and Barry Manilow. It's just it's not
I don't send out a memo, I don't talk to
the co host about it or if we have a
guest on. But that's my life, and so I sort
of understand this What is tricky, isn't it, because he
is a very outrageous, very controversial figure, and Scarlet has
defended him. She said he said he was innocent, and
(09:44):
she believes him. She totally believes that Woody Allen is innocent.
Colins no fool. He knows that he is. That he
sees that he's the head writer on sn ALAN. So
I'm sure everybody on the staff is very very aware
if you make jokes about Woody Allan, they're just not
going to make the show. We all have favorites, and
(10:06):
Woody's sort of here is a red herring because he's
such controversial person. I think it really triggers a lot
of us and feelings. But just think about it. Think
about a friend of your spouse, a friend of your spouse,
would you want anybody talking about them? Probably know the
answer is no. And so even though this is outrageous,
(10:26):
and of course Woody Allan's the name that keeps flashing
in bright lights here, that's the reason we're probably doing
this story. It could be anybody, Like they're not going
to make jokes about Scarlet's mother, about her family. These
are people that she really loves, and wood he is
one of those people. She knows that she's going to
get in hot water defending him. She doesn't care. She
(10:47):
has decided that Woody, as far as she is concerned,
is innocent. He has said he is innocent. We should
should point that out. A lot of people don't believe
that she does, and so Colin has made it pretty
clear here know Jakes about my wife's friend. Okay, moving along,
Amy Schumer. Schumer has put out some cryptic messages. So
yesterday I broke the news that they are over. Now
(11:08):
she's put out a message saying his fingers crossed, that
we make it so. My insiders are telling me. For
the last couple of months, Chris Fisher and Amy have
been broken up. They're not together. She's not wearing her
wedding ring. She's sort of put out a statement saying
she doesn't like wearing jewelry, although we have seen her
with jewelry. She wants to make clear that this has
nothing to do with weight loss or he's a autism.
But what does it have to do with mindside is
(11:30):
tell me, it's her wealth, it's her power. It is
partly too how much she has changed. They are not together.
She hopes they will make it. It's very cryptic here.
I don't know why she doesn't just come out and
tell everybody the truth. It's her life, it's her relationship,
it's her story. She can do whatever she wants here.
But I'm always so curious. I'd be honest about this
if if god the bid I broke up with Bruce
(11:50):
and the whispers got out, I'd say we have broken up.
But I hope it's not forever. I hope it's just temporary.
It's like a separation, it's not a divorce. I wish
you'd just tell us that she won't on it. Everyone
I've spoken to said that her friends, her family, everybody
who really knows her knows it's over. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's so interesting when it comes to people like Amy Schumer,
who will go on TV and will go on these
roasts and will you know, talk about people and will
put air their.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Business out and you know, poke fun at them.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But when it comes to herself, she is very, very secretive,
and she is like holding this to her chest. But
also you know, she's lost a lot of weight and
she looks fabulous, but she was always beautiful to me, fabulous.
But the thing is is it's hard because you know,
a split is difficult and sometimes it's hard to talk about.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And oh so it's like, that's what we don't know,
the behind real weird rules.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He could have been terrible to her, You never know, right, right,
she could have been terrible to you don't know, you're right.
It is difficult when you break up with somebody. It
takes you a minute before you're ready to tell anybody.
You know it's over, you know in your in mind
it's over, but it's gonna take you a minute. And
I think that's where that's where baby is. Hey, we're
wishing you the best, Okay, I love this story. The
Today Show shockingly with that Hoda, it's now number one.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yes, it's to be better.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Who without holda, Craig Melvin, Savannah Guthring, Who know would
be the success.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To a number one morning show again the Today Show?
Because The Today Show.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Was number one for a long time and then Good
Morning America kind of took over and it was number
one for a really really long time a long time,
and Today Show always wanted it back. And now since
Hoda has been out, there's like, but people are saying,
there's just a different energy and here's the thing. I'd
want this to be clear. This is not saying people
didn't like Koda. People loved Tota, they love they love Hoda.
(13:43):
But this could be a temporary thing too. We don't know,
because when something new changes in your routine, you're like, oh,
I haven't seen that in a while, let me give
it another shot. Because people are like, oh, right, I
got a little tired and maybe I'm not gonna watch
every day, but now they're like, let me try it, let.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Me try it. And the Rodins here are so small,
like we're not talking millions of you, as I think
the gap is like fifty sixty thousand views. It's not
that that many here, but it is exciting, and I
feel good for Craig here. He's not earning the money holder,
so not only is he getting the ratings, but he's
not costing the money, which TV absolutely loves here, and
so good for Savannah too. It's a great show, so's GMA.
(14:21):
They're really really good good shows. And this silly battle
over who's number one, particularly when it's so tight they're
both number one. Those shows are both winners, they're both juggernauts.
Congratulations to both of them, although it must sting a
little bit. Have you ever left a job and you
sort of want it to fall apart? You might not admitted,
but I have left many jobs and I'm like that
plays it's going to burn to the ground without Rob shoote.
(14:42):
It never does. But those are my feelings, and secretly
I think I want that, and so I'm sure a holder,
this isn't good news for holder like Hoda's not rejoicing
that this is the case today, but they are rejoicing
over at NBC. They were worried when Hodas said she
was no longer going to be there full time. She's
still under content act. We see her at the parade,
we see her do specials, but she's not the co
(15:03):
host anymore. Craig Is He's one of the nicest guys
in show business. I've known him since his MSNBC days
ten fifteen years. Handsome and smart and caring, and I
think that comes across too. I'm not saying, how does
none of those she is. She's all of the above.
I also to fear that America, unfortunately might like a
man and a woman listing together.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I fear it's known it is the formula that it
goes back to Regis and Kathy Lee and as.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Always Ryan and Kelly and then now.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Mark and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, it's just it's what people no unless you're going
to be the view, which is multiple women with you know,
who were sometimes each other.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I think that that is that works, but it's mostly I.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hope that's not the case, but I fear it is. Okay,
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picked up a computer or turned up for meetings or
Another person he hired was the infamous Derek Blasberg. He's
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know that story, google it is absolutely shocking what he
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Anna does not like this. Let's have a moment of
don't cling to what has ended. Instead honor the fact
that it all happened every chapter if it could, it
might be good, it might be hard, it might be messy,
but he did teach you something you needed to be
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the person you are. You're not losing anything by letting go.
You're making space for what's next. When you shift your
focused from it's done to I lived it. You reclaim
your power. The past isn't a wait unless you want
it to be. Celebrate it, thank it, and then instead forward.
(19:00):
The next moment is waiting for you. I had to
learn this because I had such a large life in
the past with the j Lo's and the diddies that
could have become my story till the day I die,
and it's still a part of my story. But you
gotta be able to move on. So this isn't just
when bad things happen. When bad things happen, you're gonna
be able to move on, But when good things happen,
it's even harder to move on. Live in the moment.
(19:22):
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don't honor the fact that it happened. And even more
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Level live loll Welcome to the Naughty Vanica. I'm your
house drum shooter. And it is Wednesday, which means a
dear friend Donny meetscham joined us. Hey, Donnie, are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hello La La Hello?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It is the week after the holidays?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
HOLI Dace.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Did you have a nice holiday? Did you spend?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
We had a friend of mine from high school actually
was here.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Well that's a long time, though, isn't.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I've known literally, we've known each other.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You thirty over, I'd say over thirty fifty.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh, she's birthday here, but she was escaping her husband.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You know, she's fleeing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I like that. You hold on to your friend, You
really do for somebody who was as unreliable as you. Donnay,
when it comes to friends, you hold on to them. Yeah,
but you know what, I think it's a nice I
don't mean.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's I don't mean there's braggadotus or anything. My friends
hold on to me, And I think that says something
about that, Like big people would say, yes, my friends,
I'm a good friend, and I will I'm a good
friend say that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, that's did I make that all about me?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I do, well, of course he did.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He's wicked into my show. What time is it?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
My friends?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It is Tea Times and Matt Lauer, no surprise, wants
to come back to media. So people my seen him
report in this. I've been reporting this basically for eight
years since the day he left the Today Show. He
misses it. He wants to come back, but he is
the catch. The media that Matt wants to come back
to doesn't exist anymore. Legacy media.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Those days of earning fifteen million dollars a year, it
is over. They just don't get the viewers. Cable news
is in terrible trouble. What is Matt going to do?
Is he going to join TikTok? Is he going to
get a YouTube channel? He's going to be Don Lemon.
He's not going to be interviewing people in the street.
Megan Kelly is doing really, really well, but she's saying
very controversial stuff and that gets her. Like, Matt isn't
a controversial person. What he did was very controversial, but
(02:11):
he's kind of down the middle. He's kind of like
a little bit sort of normal, and I think that
that's what in this world we live in with the housewives,
was Megan Kelly, with people screaming at us. I think
it's going to be very hard for Matt to find
a job. Several years ago, I was the first one
to report that he was in talks with C and N.
Jeff Zucker, who used to be the executive producer of
(02:32):
The Today Show when Matt was on, took over C
and N. So there were friends. They've known each other
for thirty forty years, and so they were talking, but
there was no job at seeing N. I just don't
see where he's going to go. If you think of
all the places now where people pop up, let's go
over them. YouTube. He's not doing that, reality TV, he
ain't doing Dancing with the Stars. It's not going to happen.
(02:52):
Legacy media, fantastic, but where they don't exist anymore, and
they're certainly not paying the money that Matt was earning
what a decade ago. So he's not scrappy. He wants
a platform. One person told me he does not want
a ring light. A lot of us now, Donnie, are
sitting here doing podcasting, We're doing TikTok videos, We're doing
stuff on YouTube. We're throwing everything at the wall. Goodness knows.
(03:14):
I was never as successful as Matt, but I was
in the mainstream media for a very long time did
well in it. It was delicious. Those days are gone,
the days of going on those shows and making a
living from it, they just don't exist anymore because the
shows don't have the money they used to habits a
fraction of the viewers. So I totally get it. Yes,
Matt wants to come back. Hello, that ain't that great?
(03:36):
Bigger news, is it? Of course he wants to come back,
he misses it. The problem is what he wants to
come back to no longer exists. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean it's this.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is a dirty little secret now, you know, these podcasting this.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
It's not glamorous. What we do is not glamorous anymore.
It's like the days. I was talking about this with
a friend of mine too.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Is like the radio days like you used to go
in and the days of Elvis Duran having nineteen sidekicks
and four producers, and those days are over. You run
your own board, you produce your own stuff. You you know,
you find your own stories, You do everything yourself. But
I will say the media world that you know that
(04:25):
known as gone.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But do I think there is a space for him
to have a comeback? Oddly yes, do I care enough
that I would be tuning in?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I mean I'm because I unfortunately would never be able
to separate what I know about him from from you know.
But if there's anything America loves, I mean, hello, we
have the president for a second term, is a comeback story?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
America a comeback?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I still love a comeback. So Matt could beat that story.
But where would he do it? I was thinking about it,
and it's easy to roll your eyes at Don Lemon.
But Don does the work. He gets up every day
and sits in a closet and records a podcast like
we do, and then he goes out on the streets
and he makes his videos and he does he ticked
up in. He does all that. Matt doesn't want to
do the work. He wants to comeback without the work.
(05:17):
And he would be probably the first to admit that.
I don't think I'm dissinging him here begging Kelly not
my cup of tea. But I understand why she's successful.
She never stops. She just constantly keeps going do you remember, Donnie,
when I used to come up to Serious XM and
see you there. It was still glamorous. It was a
decade and it was so glamorous, and they used to
have free coffee and apple juices and orange juices and
(05:39):
sandwiches upstairs in the green room, and their studios were gorgeous,
and they had producers and the board. Somebody ran that
is not the case anymore. I know people who now
work at Sirious. They said, unless you work for Howard,
it's a very different beast. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, here's the thing though, if you think about it,
I mean, Serious is an option for Matt Lauer. They
are that afraid to, you know, bring back somebody controversial.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But even them, it's like they only have a smaller
budget now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because they realize, you know, hiring big names or whatever,
it doesn't that splashy anymore. Once you've done it once,
once you've done it twice.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
They gave Megan Kelly her own channel.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Now maybe he shows them there, But once you've done
it so many times, it's just it loses its straw.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It does lose it.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Straw.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It does lose it straw, doesn't it Your absolutely right there?
And what Serious is looking for is to hire somebody
who comes with an audience. Yes, they want to hire
My Daddy podcast. They want to hire people who will
arrive with a massive audience. Matt hasn't had that audience
now in almost a decade, and so it's very very
unclear if he still has an audience. What would be
(06:53):
the way to get on Serious is to start a small,
independent podcast, Let it explode, and then they'll buy it.
That's how to do. Matt doesn't do small, and I
don't blame him for this. I don't If you've tasted
the big leaes. If you're Michael Jackson, you have sold
out Madison Square Garden, you ain't playing radio Sitner. You're
not going to radios. It's a great venue, it ain't
the garden. If you're Taylor Swift and you're doing stadiums,
(07:16):
you're not going to be in a supper club on
fifty sixth Streets. It's just not going to happen. So, Matt,
if you do want to do this, if you're listening
a Low and loa Loo, I've known you forever. I
know sometimes you've listened to the podcast. If you're listening
a lower loolo. Think about if you want to do
the work, do you want to be really scrappy again?
And that's what you have to do to survive this.
We know people who are no Matt Lauers. We know
(07:38):
people in this business who just didn't want to do
the work bad no, no legitimacy to float by like Matt.
He was a big star for a long time. It's
a lot of work and I just don't think Matt's
going to do, which brings us to our whole question
of the day. No surprise, Matt wants back on television. However,
the world he wants to return to doesn't exist anymore.
(07:59):
Would you watch Mat? If Matt came back in a
podcast on YouTube?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Would you watch?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes? Or no? Go votes on our Twitter page at
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Hey Donnie Love, what are you working.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
On the.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Sn L?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So Colin jokes, oh so delicious, adorable?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
My goodness, he's adorable and he's got that.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So if anybody's wondering the celebrity Jeopardy, everybody thought it
maybe it's no more, But it's actually moved to Netflix,
and so it is coming back. So I it was
on Amazon for a season but then it just kind
of disappeared, but it is coming back to Netflix, hosted
by Colin jos AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I move on.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So there is a little bit of a rumor mill
that you know he's at the Weakened anchor desk and
know Woody Allen jokes, no jokes about Allen, And it's
not really coming from Colin himself, it is coming from
Scarlet Scarlet Johansson, his wife, because Scarlett has.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Once again she doubled down.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
She has supported Woody Allen for a really long time,
showed up in his movies.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
And so therefore, Noboody.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Alan jokes and he's not No, he's not walking around
going don't talk about Woody, don't talk about Woody.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's just it's known now behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I have no Barry Manelow jokes on this podcast because
of my husband and Barry Manilow. It's just it's not
I don't send out a memo, I don't talk to
the co host about it or if we have a
guest on. But that's my life, and so I sort
of understand this What is tricky, isn't it, because he
is a very outrageous, very controversial figure, and Scarlet has
defended him. She said he said he was innocent, and
(09:44):
she believes him. She totally believes that Woody Allen is innocent.
Colins no fool. He knows that he is. That he
sees that he's the head writer on sn ALAN. So
I'm sure everybody on the staff is very very aware
if you make jokes about Woody Allan, they're just not
going to make the show. We all have favorites, and
(10:06):
Woody's sort of here is a red herring because he's
such controversial person. I think it really triggers a lot
of us and feelings. But just think about it. Think
about a friend of your spouse, a friend of your spouse,
would you want anybody talking about them? Probably know the
answer is no. And so even though this is outrageous,
(10:26):
and of course Woody Allan's the name that keeps flashing
in bright lights here, that's the reason we're probably doing
this story. It could be anybody, Like they're not going
to make jokes about Scarlet's mother, about her family. These
are people that she really loves, and wood he is
one of those people. She knows that she's going to
get in hot water defending him. She doesn't care. She
(10:47):
has decided that Woody, as far as she is concerned,
is innocent. He has said he is innocent. We should
should point that out. A lot of people don't believe
that she does, and so Colin has made it pretty
clear here know Jakes about my wife's friend. Okay, moving along,
Amy Schumer. Schumer has put out some cryptic messages. So
yesterday I broke the news that they are over. Now
(11:08):
she's put out a message saying his fingers crossed, that
we make it so. My insiders are telling me. For
the last couple of months, Chris Fisher and Amy have
been broken up. They're not together. She's not wearing her
wedding ring. She's sort of put out a statement saying
she doesn't like wearing jewelry, although we have seen her
with jewelry. She wants to make clear that this has
nothing to do with weight loss or he's a autism.
But what does it have to do with mindside is
(11:30):
tell me, it's her wealth, it's her power. It is
partly too how much she has changed. They are not together.
She hopes they will make it. It's very cryptic here.
I don't know why she doesn't just come out and
tell everybody the truth. It's her life, it's her relationship,
it's her story. She can do whatever she wants here.
But I'm always so curious. I'd be honest about this
if if god the bid I broke up with Bruce
(11:50):
and the whispers got out, I'd say we have broken up.
But I hope it's not forever. I hope it's just temporary.
It's like a separation, it's not a divorce. I wish
you'd just tell us that she won't on it. Everyone
I've spoken to said that her friends, her family, everybody
who really knows her knows it's over. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's so interesting when it comes to people like Amy Schumer,
who will go on TV and will go on these
roasts and will you know, talk about people and will
put air their.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Business out and you know, poke fun at them.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But when it comes to herself, she is very, very secretive,
and she is like holding this to her chest. But
also you know, she's lost a lot of weight and
she looks fabulous, but she was always beautiful to me, fabulous.
But the thing is is it's hard because you know,
a split is difficult and sometimes it's hard to talk about.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And oh so it's like, that's what we don't know,
the behind real weird rules.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He could have been terrible to her, You never know, right, right,
she could have been terrible to you don't know, you're right.
It is difficult when you break up with somebody. It
takes you a minute before you're ready to tell anybody.
You know it's over, you know in your in mind
it's over, but it's gonna take you a minute. And
I think that's where that's where baby is. Hey, we're
wishing you the best, Okay, I love this story. The
Today Show shockingly with that Hoda, it's now number one.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yes, it's to be better.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Who without holda, Craig Melvin, Savannah Guthring, Who know would
be the success.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To a number one morning show again the Today Show?
Because The Today Show.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Was number one for a long time and then Good
Morning America kind of took over and it was number
one for a really really long time a long time,
and Today Show always wanted it back. And now since
Hoda has been out, there's like, but people are saying,
there's just a different energy and here's the thing. I'd
want this to be clear. This is not saying people
didn't like Koda. People loved Tota, they love they love Hoda.
(13:43):
But this could be a temporary thing too. We don't know,
because when something new changes in your routine, you're like, oh,
I haven't seen that in a while, let me give
it another shot. Because people are like, oh, right, I
got a little tired and maybe I'm not gonna watch
every day, but now they're like, let me try it, let.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Me try it. And the Rodins here are so small,
like we're not talking millions of you, as I think
the gap is like fifty sixty thousand views. It's not
that that many here, but it is exciting, and I
feel good for Craig here. He's not earning the money holder,
so not only is he getting the ratings, but he's
not costing the money, which TV absolutely loves here, and
so good for Savannah too. It's a great show, so's GMA.
(14:21):
They're really really good good shows. And this silly battle
over who's number one, particularly when it's so tight they're
both number one. Those shows are both winners, they're both juggernauts.
Congratulations to both of them, although it must sting a
little bit. Have you ever left a job and you
sort of want it to fall apart? You might not admitted,
but I have left many jobs and I'm like that
plays it's going to burn to the ground without Rob shoote.
(14:42):
It never does. But those are my feelings, and secretly
I think I want that, and so I'm sure a holder,
this isn't good news for holder like Hoda's not rejoicing
that this is the case today, but they are rejoicing
over at NBC. They were worried when Hodas said she
was no longer going to be there full time. She's
still under content act. We see her at the parade,
we see her do specials, but she's not the co
(15:03):
host anymore. Craig Is He's one of the nicest guys
in show business. I've known him since his MSNBC days
ten fifteen years. Handsome and smart and caring, and I
think that comes across too. I'm not saying, how does
none of those she is. She's all of the above.
I also to fear that America, unfortunately might like a
man and a woman listing together.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I fear it's known it is the formula that it
goes back to Regis and Kathy Lee and as.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Always Ryan and Kelly and then now.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Mark and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, it's just it's what people no unless you're going
to be the view, which is multiple women with you know,
who were sometimes each other.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I think that that is that works, but it's mostly I.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hope that's not the case, but I fear it is. Okay,
we're going to take a quick break and we'll be
right back. Welcome back to the naughty but Nice have
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Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oh well, well, well, the nicest of the day, missus
Miley Cyrus, and.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
She is going to be married again.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
She must all she've been dating her producer and drummer Boh.
He's twenty seven years old, Max Brando. And you know
how she the world found out is she just flashed
a beautiful diamond ring.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Oh my, could just see that, and she's like, you
know what, us, it sets it. It's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then all of a sudden, I'm screaming, I'm engaged.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
It's fabulous. I'm so happy for myself. I adore Mai
so much.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I do too, I do too. She was at the
premiere for Avatar. She's got the song in Avatar, Fire
and Asher. The premiere was in Los Angeles. They walked
the carpet together. She wore that ring, and she confirmed
on the carpet, Yes, I'm engaged. Hey, congratulations, I love her.
I love this couple. I love love. And now I
noticed the nameteen naughty, naughty Anna Winter is already looking
to fire the new Vanity Fair bars. Vanity Fair has
(17:34):
a new boss. His name's a Mark Udici and he's
a friend of Anna's daughter's bee, which is never a
good thing because that's probably why he got hired. Since
he's been there, lots of drama. Olivia Nuniez, the reporter
has hooked up with RFK Junior. Now she has not
picked up a computer or turned up for meetings or
Another person he hired was the infamous Derek Blasberg. He's
(17:56):
the one who had an upset tummy. Let's put it
like that in Gwenna Peltrow's Hampton's estate. If you don't
know that story, google it is absolutely shocking what he
did in her spare bedroom. And so this is no
pun intended kind of a messy situation. Anna does not
like MESSI now we're not talking about the content of
Vanity Fair, but rather these sort of grifters, these shady
(18:19):
reporters who are working there just not a good look.
Anna does not like this. Let's have a moment of
don't cling to what has ended. Instead honor the fact
that it all happened every chapter if it could, it
might be good, it might be hard, it might be messy,
but he did teach you something you needed to be
(18:40):
the person you are. You're not losing anything by letting go.
You're making space for what's next. When you shift your
focused from it's done to I lived it. You reclaim
your power. The past isn't a wait unless you want
it to be. Celebrate it, thank it, and then instead forward.
(19:00):
The next moment is waiting for you. I had to
learn this because I had such a large life in
the past with the j Lo's and the diddies that
could have become my story till the day I die,
and it's still a part of my story. But you
gotta be able to move on. So this isn't just
when bad things happen. When bad things happen, you're gonna
be able to move on, But when good things happen,
it's even harder to move on. Live in the moment.
(19:22):
You don't have to cling to your past. No, you
don't honor the fact that it happened. And even more
great stuff is gonna happen next. Hey, that is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening. So They're
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