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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Scar Ye, sure, it's nice. It's time nice and low
and low and lower lower low. Welcome to the naughty
but nice. I'm your host from Shooter. Donny's off today
traveling with his friends and family, so I hope he's
having a fantastic time. It's New Year's Eve, naughties. What
are you all doing tonight? Are you going to stay

(00:28):
up till midnight and watch the ball drop in Times
Square here in New York? Or will you be asleep? Sometimes?
I'm in bed by ten thirty tonight. I'm going out.
Bruce and I are going out for dinner with our
dear friends Robbie and Allan and Evelyn. So the five
of us are going to a restaurant tonight to literally

(00:50):
ring in the New Year together. I'm a little bit
worried though, that I go to bed quite early. I
hope I make it till twelve o'clock. I think, go well.
I think I'm the company is going to be so delicious,
the food is going to be so marvelous that I
think I will make it. I'm so looking forward to it.
Let me know what you're up to. Let's jump into
the show. What time is it, my friends? It is

(01:11):
tea time big story. At the top of the show,
Harry and Meghan's brand is on the brink of collapsing.
So Harry and Meghan carefully, carefully created brand is in serious,
serious trouble. It took me a second to actually get
that out. And it's hard to believe the Archie Well,
their charity, which they launched with so much funfare, with

(01:33):
so much hope, with so much optimism, is now literally
on its knees. The longtime executive of the charity, he's
a brilliant person. His name is James Holt, has announced
that he is leaving Los Angeles and he is handing
over the reins after years by the couple side. Now
we know from this show that Harry and Meghan have

(01:55):
gone through a lot of staff. They've had a lot
of teething troubles, issues launching themselves as a new brand,
there's a new charity, as a new couple in America.
They left Britain to come here, so let's cut them
a little bit of slack there. It's a lot of
stuff that happened all at once, and they didn't surround
themselves by the best people. We know from our show
that they're on their eleventh or twelfth publicist in five years.

(02:17):
James is a constant in their life. He has been
there four years. He is a professional. He gets job
offers from some of the biggest charities, biggest companies in
the world, and he's finally decided, you know what, now
it's time to leave. One insider told me. Without James around,
Archiwell is quote essentially shut with staff slashed by as

(02:41):
much as eighty five percent. So they're down to only
about two three staffers on the charity, which is not
a bad thing. That's quite a good thing with charities.
You don't want hundreds of staff because you've got to
pay them. You want to get all that money to
people in need, to organizations in need, not necessarily the staff,
and said have a really more staff. There's no shame
in that. However, to just have a few And now

(03:04):
the head of the charity, James Holt, who really is
respected in this world, he's gone. Sources say only one
two three people remain and they are really now working
as consultants. No one's actually doing the work. Now. This
is interesting. Harry and Meghan were never in the trenches
of the charity. They were big picture bosses. They came

(03:25):
in for the big ideas. We want money to go here,
we want money to go there. This is our goals,
these are our aims. Then you do it. A lot
of bosses do work like that. A lot of bosses
don't micromanage. And so I know in the different organizations
where I've worked, some bosses were very very hands on,
like a Jennifer Lopez, she wanted every single detail. Alicia
Keys was much more big picture. This is the vibe,

(03:47):
this is what I want. Now make that happen. I
can work either way. A lot of people can. I'm
sure you've got a boss that has been a micromanager.
I'm sure you've had a boss that has literally literally
given you some goals and then you were achieve them.
You try to make that stuff happen their vision happen.
In this case, Harry and Megan, they're not roll up
your sleeve type people. They do big picture. They're not

(04:09):
in the little meetings. They're not in the small meetings.
And when I say little, I mean that with no disrespect.
It's in those little meetings that all the big decisions
get made. They're not in those meetings. So now They've
got a few consultants left inside as are saying this
is really bad. The whole thing could basically claps. In fact,
one person told me, really it has already. It's over.

(04:31):
Archiewell is over. They're not raising any money anymore. They're
not giving out donations anymore. They're not giving out big
checks to worthy causes, worthy individuals. It's sort of gone.
And the priority in twenty twenty six for Megan and
Harry is not going to be making money for charity,
but making money for themselves. You can't blame them on this.

(04:52):
Before you can help others, you've got to help yourself.
I often say, if you're on an aeroplane, they always
tell you to put your mask on first before helping others.
That's where we are with Harry and Meghan. They're gonna
have trouble soon paying their bills. They live very well
in Montecito. It is a very expensive neighborhood. They live
up there with the opral Winfreys and the big big stars,

(05:14):
the Rob Lows. They are surrounded by wealth and these
two are not bringing in the money now. When his
mommy died, she left him millions that he inherited. When
he's thirty. That's basically paying all the bills. Meghan made
about five million on her own, and you got to
tip your hat to that when she was in suits.
She was not born with a silver spoon in her

(05:36):
mouth like her husband. She was born in a middle
class neighborhood and really worked hard to establish herself as
a celebrity as an actress and also too, she made
money and she saved money. So I absolutely say good
for you, Meghan. But the ten million from his mommy,
the five million from her, that doesn't add up. It
sounds like a lot of money. It is a lot

(05:56):
of money, but not a lot of money for the
life that these two want to live. They literally want
to live a royal life. It has just been revealed.
It has just been revealed that his brother made thirty
million last year. That's the type of money you need.
You need. It's not five million here there, it's not
projects on Netflix. It's massive and massives amounts of money

(06:18):
to live like a royal. It costs tens of millions
of dollars to live like a royal. They're going to
have to change their lifestyle and I think they know this.
So the charity at the moment on the back burner
focus for twenty twenty six. I'm telling you first, my
friends is going to be making money for themselves. I
am hearing. I'm quite shocked about this, but I think
it's actually going to happen now. I spoke to three
different sources. I'm hearing that they might do a movie,

(06:41):
a documentary, maybe a feature film about the life of
Princess Diana. Yeah, let's take you pause, everybody. That's why
Netflix has not fired them. They want that Diana documentary.
They want that Diana film. Had a Harry and Megan
really had a Harrey before they split, before they go
their own separate waves. The cooking shows not working, The

(07:01):
Polar Show was a disaster. They're now adapting a novel
into a movie. Good luck with that. It's a great novel.
I hope they produce it well. But being a producer
is a lot of work, and these two do not
have any experience in doing that. It's not like their
intentions are bad. They wanted this charity to be a success.
They just didn't have the know how, the time, the dedication,

(07:23):
the skills to make it a success. So why would
we think making a movie out of a book will
be any different. This is gonna be a tricky, tricky
year for the Sussexes inside tell me it's a pivotal year.
The charity is literally on the brink, and as a couple,
these too financially now are going to have to really

(07:44):
make some money. The money from his book is gone,
the money from his mommy's gone. The money she made
on suits pretty much gone now, so they need to
make money, which brings us to our pole question on
the day the charities on the brink, it looks like
it's gonna close very soon. Can the couple say themselves?
Can Harry and Meghan start making real serious money in

(08:05):
twenty twenty six. I don't think it's gonna come from
her jams, her pots of jams. I don't think it's
gonna come from Harry's selling shows about polo matches. It
has to be something really big. What do you think
will they make the money they need next year? Hey?
Go vote on our Twitter page Naughty Nice rob our

(08:25):
Facebook pages Naughty Gossip, and be sure to check back
to amrow to hear your results. I'm thrilled you listening today.
Yesterday we had a few technical issues So Delena and
I recorded our podcasts I think at seven thirty am
in the morning, and we posted it about eight and
it did not actually get posted till I think two
or three in the afternoons. If you were looking for
the show yesterday, apologies, apologies, apologies, but it was a

(08:46):
technical issue. We take full responsibility. The book stops with
me on the Naughty but Nice Show. It's my name
above the title, So once again, sorry about that, but
hopefully we have no issues today. Okay, moving along, Taylor
Swift snook into a picture of the Wag Wives for Christmas.
So the chief Wags, they are the wives of all

(09:09):
the Chiefs, went out in Kansas City. It was the
Inner Circle and they took a picture together. They all
sharing this. They're all dating or married to one of
these fabulous football players on a great team, the Kansas
City Chiefs not doing as well this year. Look at me.
Can you believe that I'm talking about sports? Like I know,
I know a little bit thanks to Taylor Swift. Well,

(09:31):
they spotted Taylor Immediately, eagle eyed fans noticed the pop
starff hiding in the back row of the festive group's
photograph from the Chiefs Christmas party. So at the Christmas party,
they all decided, they all decided, let's get together all
the girlfriends, all the wives and take a picture. And
one of the girlfriends, Anna Dema, posted it online and

(09:53):
that's when we all saw it. Taylor didn't post it.
The other wags did not post it. I hope that's
a positive term. I've got to do a little research
on that. W a gs wags. I like it. It doesn't
make me giggle. Wives and girlfriends, that's what it stands for,
wives and girlfriends. They took the picture one of the
girlfriends of Creed Humphreys. I don't know who he is,

(10:14):
but he said offensive lineman is what I'm told. His
girlfriend Anna posted it and we could see Taylor right
after back. She's barely visible. She looks like she's hiding
behind her a snoopy decoration, but her signature lip, that
red lip, gave her away. We see Brittany Mahones and
several other players wives partners posing front and center while

(10:34):
Taylor was really low key. So I hit the phones
and everyone said she was so humble, she was so normal.
She doesn't want this to be the Taylor Swift Show.
She knows that she's a big star, arguably one of
the biggest stars, if not the biggest star in the world.
So she deliberately put herself on the background. It wasn't
about her. She didn't want a picture with all the
wives and girlfriends around her. She didn't want to be
in the center of the picture. She slipped in at

(10:55):
the back, and she sort of looks down a little bit.
She has that Princess Diana shy die look where she's
looking down, but she looks up with her eyes. But
that signature red lip that is so famous that Taylor
wears everywhere, that gave her away. I'm told inside the
party that she is trying so hard to just be normal.
She knows she's not. She knows that the reputation, the image,

(11:17):
the perception of Taylor Swift walks into a room five
paces before she does. Her reputation's already in the room
before she arrives, and she doesn't want that. She just
wants to be one of the other partners of this
exceptional team. And so they trying so hard, the other ladies,
to give her that grace, and Taylor's trying so hard

(11:40):
to not pull out her credit card and pay for everything.
Let's be honest, she could probably buy the restaurant that
this event took place in the venue. So she's really
trying to fit in. I know a couple of famous people,
one or two really really famous people, and they struggle
with this constantly. How do you go to a party
and it not become about you? How at a party

(12:00):
do you fit in? If somebody says will you sing
a song? What do you do? You don't want to
be rude. If somebody asks for a photograph for her
selfie or an autograph, what do you do? You don't
want to say no? But then again then it turns
into your fan club convention, and it's quite tricky. This
is why a lot of celebrities are quite lonely. The
celebrities I know don't have many friends. And it's not

(12:22):
because they're not nice. It's because they don't go places
to meet friends. And when they do, it's not a
normal environment. If they walk into a bar, it's suddenly
so different and not in a good way. And so
Taylor struggles with this. I don't want to be boohoo.
It's so hard to be rich and famous. I'm not
doing that at all. She has an extraordinary life. She
is so lucky and good for her. She's worked her

(12:42):
tail off to get there. But there is a cost
to it. Remember that noughties, there is a cost to everything,
including success. Okay, moving along, big news. George and a
mult Clooney have fled Hollywood becoming French citizens for the
kid's sakes, and that's really important here. So we know
that George and Amala are really strong critics of this administration. However,

(13:04):
that is not the reason they moved. Inside has told
me they officially became French citizens after growing unease about
raising their kids in Hollywood. The Power couple. They share
their eight year old children, Alexandra and Ellie. They keep
those very very private. Quietly secured French citizenship while settling
full time in the south of France, that's where they're based.

(13:26):
George admitted that he feared Los Angeles would rob his
kids of a normal childhood, citing the paparazzi and celebrity
culture and living on a farm. The actor says that
his children enjoy privacy, real family dinners, and life away
from fame. He has the resources, he has the power
to do this. A lot of people would like to
move change where they live, and we just can't. I

(13:48):
get that. Financially, you just can't get out. He can.
And so if you've got that opportunity, if you've got
that privilege, why not enjoy it. And this really is
about the kids. They are so protective about these children.
He said, he chose this life, a male chose this life.
His kids didn't. They're eight years old, and he does
not want them robbed of her childhood. It really weighs

(14:11):
on his mind. I saw them recently, about a month
ago in midtown, and they were so gracious and so
so delightful. But they don't talk about their kids. They
don't show pictures of their kids. George Amahl great parents.
You might disagree with his politician, might not like his movies,
you might not like the work she does, the really

(14:32):
really important word that she is doing. However, I think
we can all agree they are great parents, and I
tip my hat to that. I really do. Let's remember too,
in France it's illegal to take a photograph of a
child's face, so this is very very good for them. Okay,
talking about rules of celebrities quickly, before we go to
break mcaulay Culkin is laying down very strict rules if

(14:54):
you bump into him in public. So he has no
problem with fans. He loves them, but you've got to
respect his boundaries. And the former star revealed he has
some firm rules for anyone who approaches him in public,
especially when he's with his family. Says fans should never
ever ever interrupt him when he's eating. I agree on
that for everybody. You don't have to be a celebrity
for that to be the rule. Or when he's spending

(15:15):
time with his kids or any circumstance is funny. When
he's in the bathroom, leave him alone in the bathroom.
I once at the Golden Globes stood next to Ben
Affleck in the men's bathroom. I desperately wanted to say something.
I desperately wanted to have a little look, which I did,
but I realized he's in the bathroom. Leave him alone.

(15:36):
I think we can all agree these are good rules
when you're eating, when you're with your kids, and when
you're in the bathroom, leave the celebrity alone. Okay, we're
going to take a quick break and we will be
right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Show. Hey,
let's get to the polls DA DA DA. Last show,
we talked about Britney Spears slamming her family as sarcastically

(15:59):
as innocent, great family, she was being sarcastic about it.
Our question was quite simple, will this family ever heal?
Is there a chance of it healing? Let's be clear here,
the family did invite Britney to Christmas. They did, and
she didn't respond, So they didn't exclude that Britney didn't respond,
She excluded herself. So the family's trying the issues on

(16:19):
Britney side. Now I can agree, she's got a very
good reason to have issues. For thirteen years. She thinks
her life was stolen from her by this conservatorship that
her dad was the boss of, and so lots of
tensions here. But will this family ever that's a long time,
ever heal? Seventy percent said no, I think I agree.
I'm sad about this one, but I think I agree. Hey,

(16:40):
don't forget to vote on today's Paul, Harry and Meghan.
Will they have a successful twenty twenty six? Can they
start earning the money they need to live their life?
They want to go vote on our title page at
Naughty Nice rob our facebook page is Naughty Gossip and
be sure to check back to Marao the first of

(17:00):
the new year. I can't wait the first of the
year to hear your results. Okay, now it's time for
my favorite part of the show and nicest of the day.
And nicest of the day is Jlo, who is fine
flying solo a year after her split with Ben Affleck.
So Jennifer is still riding solo nearly a year after
finalizing her divorce from Ben Affleck, and inside to say

(17:23):
it is by choice. Sources claim that the superstar is
focused on work and her seventeen year old twins. Wow,
there's seventeen that Max and Emmy and isn't rushing back
into a romance. Friend say, Jennifer is happy, grounded, and
content keeping her world small after another high profile heartbreak.
I used to work with Jennifer, and I love this. Jennifer,

(17:45):
love yourself. You spend so much time entertaining us, entertaining
the world. Spend a minute looking after yourself. I think
she's always been a great mom. What she hasn't been
greater is her own love life, her own her own
self worth. And so I want Jennifer to meet some
I think this could be the year for Jennifer. I
really do. I think she could meet somebody, really, really nice.
But she's got to meet somebody when she's not pushing

(18:07):
so hard, when she's not so desperate to find love.
Love happens, I find when you least expect it. Jennifer
was sending you our best and for now she's put
in herself and her kids first, which I think we
can all agree is a terrific idea. Now I noticed
the day naughty, naughty, naughty Denise Richards from the Real
Housewives and her ex Aaron have been booted out of

(18:29):
their luxury La rental. They didn't known it they rented.
They are eighty four thousand dollars in debt. Denise and
Aaron have been ordered out of their rental after allegedly
skipping out on paying the rent. Court documents show that
a Los Angeles judge has approved the eviction request after
months of missing the payments on this very high end home.

(18:52):
The former couple leased the home in twenty twenty and
put down twenty four thousand as a security deposit, but
now the landlord claimed the property has been left damaged
and in disarray and they are owed eighty four thousand.
It drives me mad. These celebrities, they're unso much money,
or at least they pretend to. They have enough money

(19:12):
to spend on Gucci and Broader and their hair and
their makeup, but they don't pay their rent. What is
it with the housewives? Teresa and all these sloppy housewives
who don't pay their rent. It's criminal, absolutely terrible. Who
do you think you are? Okay, let's end with a
murmur of rot RB. Forgive yourself, seriously, forgive yourself or

(19:34):
whatever you have done in your past that you're not
proud of. You didn't know then what you know now,
and that's not a flaw. It's how growth works. Time
is a teacher. Remember that time is a teacher. You
cannot skip. You learn by living by trying, by failing
and getting back up. So stop replaying those old decisions

(19:55):
with today's wisdom, because that is unfair, mental math, It
is just not fair. Instead, thank your past self for
surviving without the answers. You did not have the answers
back then, but now you do. So release the shame
and replace it with compassion. The moment you forgive yourself
is the moment you can move forward. Once again blaming

(20:18):
yourself for bad decisions from back in the past when
you didn't have the wisdom that you have today. That
is unfair. Math cut yourself a break. Naughties, Hey, that
is it for this year? You imagine was saying that.
Doesn't it sound great? It was a tough year. It
was a really tough year. Thank you so much for
listening to the Naughty Butt Nice. You've really got my back.

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