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Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's time I will welcome TV naught even nicely on
your host Rob shoots are on. It's Thursday, which means
our dear friend Mark Looper, Hey, lupy, are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You'd be loose here here.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm running on fumes today, so I'm lucky. This is
not a complaint. Last night I was up to like
one o'clock doing CNN, so CNN has booked me a
lot now to talk about Rob, Briana and all different
types of celebrities. So I love, love doing it. But oh, Mark,
you've worked in TV a long time. The hours. It's
rough business, isn't it. You're up late, you're you're a
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bit lay, you're up early. It's a lot, it is.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
But luckily you had good hair and makeup to make
you look like you were fully away.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm going to post this picture I just because I
send you clips now after the show, and I think
that's very smart. They want all their guests to really
add ties the show for them by putting it on
social media. So yes, it helps me because all my
friends are like, oh my gosh, i'ms so legit he's
on CNN. But it also helps the show too because
suddenly people are like, the show is really fabulous. I'll
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post the clip to day Mark. I look fabu. There's
no more magical room in the whole of New York
than CNN's makeup room. It is. It could turn an
ugly duckling lightning into a swan. It's g I've seen them.
Not gonna drop names here because I'll never get invited back,
but I've seen a few people walk into that room
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and they've walked out a completely different person. Their hair
and makeup room it's always where you have to bow dad.
That's where the respect, That's where the real wizardry of
television goes on. Okay, let's jump into that show. What
time is it? My friends? It is tea time, big,
big story. At the top of the show, so Rob
Ryan as kids, at least two of them have broke
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their silence about the horror, calling it an unimaginable pain. However,
they did not mention their brother in the statement. So
Hollywood was still reeling from Rob and Michelle Reiner's Ryaner's passing,
and now their kids, Jake and romy romy found the
bodies are finally speaking out in a heartbreaking statement, Mark
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that they're describing it as living with quote unimaginable pain,
calling the loss horrific, and deavor stating this is the
part that really really got to me. So I feel
like this with my mom. They said they were not
just our parents, they were our best friends. So they've
lost their parents, their best friends, potentially their brother too.
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They have thanked their fans and friends and even strangers
around the world for the outpouring of love and condolences. However,
now they're asking for some privacy. That's going to be
very difficult because this case is moving a head, so
we're trying to be respectful of that. But I think
there's still a lot of story to come out here,
a lot of questions. Mark, the question of the day
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is who's paying for the defense? This attorney that he's
hired is a superstar. I was on CNN last night
with Mark Garagos, the lawyer who worked with Michael Jackson,
like this is a superstar. They anne up to two
three four thousand dollars an hour mod this. Nick has
no money. Nick never had a job. His mom and
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dad paid for everything. So now I hit the phones.
I had to find out who's paying. The attorney would
not tell me. I mean, I do have hutsparactually acting,
but they wouldn't tell me. However, family sources said the
family's paying. And when we say family here, it's probably
Robin Michelle. I mean the irony of this, that they
paid for their son in life and now they're paying
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in their death too. It's something now. This as controversial
as it sounds, though, I reached out to another family
friend and they said, listen, they are in so much shock,
but he's still their brother, and even if he did this,
which they believe he did, they want him to have
good representation. They want the facts to come out. I
do not want the death penalty. And so are they
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paying for this? My sources say yes. What do you
think amark about the statement? I think it was quite beautiful.
And what do you think about money? Here? Is this
is now a conversation about that two hundred million dollars.
Who's going to get that.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's just a horrible and shocking story, it really is.
And for any person to experience is to find their
parents brutally murdered in such a horrific ways, just it's
life altering and so my heart goes out to everyone
involved here. I think too. It's complicated because it is
their brother who has now taking the lives of their
best friends, their parents. They you know, he's totally uprooted
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everything that they know to be true. I think here,
you know, I would imagine the money is coming from
the parents, because it's proven that he's not really ever
been able to hold a real job or to make money.
And he's been in and out of rehab since he
was in his early twenties, so he hasn't really been
able to make anything of himself other than you know,
being nepple baby who caused problem. And so, you know,
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I think here too, what's so sad, and I've been
reading a lot about this story is that the parents
have been so supportive of him from his whole time
during these struggles, and it's just so it's devastating to
know that their efforts couldn't bring him across the line.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah. Yeah, it's heartbreaking, isn't it. You know, Hollywood knew
Nick was trouble. People in Hollywood knew. He's been around
for thirty two years and he's been in trouble for
most of it. The mom and dad dragged him to parties,
They dragged him to the Conan Brian Potty who takes
their thirty two year old son to a party on
a Saturday night because he's got no friends, Like it's
just everything about this is so so sad. But there's
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still his parents and they loved him, and my inside
is my family. Sources tell me they would forgive him
if they were still alive and Nick had committed this
horrendous act on somebody else, on a different couple, they
would be devastated. But they love him, they know he
has mental health issues. And now we're going to figure
out where the family ends upon this. I'm told there's
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a split. There's some people in the family who want
him gone, who are just so and I get that,
I do get it. And there's other people in the
family that this is their brother. They grew up with him,
they know him, they've known he's been trouble his whole life.
And what do you do. We don't have the resources
of Rob Ryiner. What do you do if you're a
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regular person, mark like you, like I like our friends
listening like the Naughties. If there's a problem in the house,
there's red flags. We've seen this. We all know somebody
within our family or a friend's family who has mental
health troubles issues. Now hopefully, hopefully it's not as extreme
as this, but it could be. We have seen red flags.
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What do you do as parents? It is an unanswerable question,
and that's why this question keeps going around and around.
Some people think you should be much harsher. He should
have been incarcerated, he should have been locked up, They
should have put him away, But that's very difficult to
doing California, as we saw from Britney spears to get
a psychiatric hold on somebody who's actually really, really difficult.
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The system here has failed and it breaks my heart.
We normally do a poll question, now, don't we But
we don't do poles when it's a topic like this.
I'm not interested in poles when something this devastating has happened.
So we're going to keep moving on our final Nick
story of the show, and then I promise we'll get
into some different type of gossip, something a little bit
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more uplifting. We have finally seen him. He appeared in
court yesterday, Mark, What do we know about that appearance?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yes, so he appeared in quarrier for the first time
yesterday after he really you know, allegedly stabbed his parents
to death. Now he arrived in Los Angeles to shoveled,
hollow eyed, and shaggled at the hands and feet, and
dressed in the anti self firm prevention smart As he
faced the two counter first degree water and the nick
you know, he remained silent and stared straight ahead throughout
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the briefing, making his first public appearance since the arrest,
and apparently his high power of defense Attorney Al Jackson
called the case of this devastating tragedy and urged public
not to judge rush judgment, I should say, and he
also he has an arraignment schedule for January seventh.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
January seventh, January seventh. I've never seen this before. I've
never seen one of these anti harm prevention, anti suicide schmocks.
He was almost naked, except he was covered in this
blue more than more than a straight dat racket. He
looked terrible. The judge, they asked that he was not
shown on camera, but we saw sketches also too. We
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had reporters, yes, people in the room in the court
who described him here. This could be mark the trial
of the century. We've just got through the Diddy trial.
We can't forget the oj Simpson trial. Of course, maybe
the biggest celebrity trial of all time, that Michael Jackson trial.
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This is going to be massive. I'm already told Mark
News organizations are thinking about moving reporters out to LA
to cover this. Most of the anchors, all the anchors
of the big three network shows Mark are based here
in New York. I think they're going to move out
to LA for weeks, days, or maybe even months at
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a time to cover this. Do you see this trial
as being headline news for the next couple of months?
I do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
They've already put out a documentary special last night it
was on ABC. I will say that because Rob Reiner,
really he crosses over so many different types of people
in generations. So people have been impacted by his work
from the seventies and up until now, and so I
think there is a true love for him. He seemed
like a wonderful guy and he's touched so many laves
in a positive way that it's hard not to feel
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invested in his story and to see this through it.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, that's the words invested, isn't it. It's the way
he made us feel. He just made everybody feel something.
Yesterday Anderson Coop working on a new primetime documentary and
I film that yesterday too. It's amazing these TV people Mark.
They're so quick and smart and the product is so
great and they do it in like twenty four hours.
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I think they call it slamming it. They just like
slam a. It's just wild to watch. I'll give you
the heads up when that's going to end or tas Okay,
let's move along away from away from Rob ryaner Oh
it breaks my heart. But we do have some quite
shocking gossip here that the oscars now are moving from
TV to YouTube. You heard that right in twenty twenty nine.
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The Academy of Motion Pictures and Science, so it sounds
so official when you say it, that has announced that
they're going to begin the two hundred and first Oscars. Wow,
two hundred and first Oscars one sorry, oh gosh, one
hundred and first one oh one one, one hundred and
first Oscars in twenty twenty nine on YouTube. I think
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this market shocking is its sounds. It's not that shocking.
The world's changing, and the oscars moving is a big moment,
but it's hardly the beginning, I would argue we're well
into this process now of Netflix, of YouTube, we are
moving away and I think, actually my question would be
what took you so long? People now watch television, they
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watch their favorite shows on YouTube. You can get a
global audience. If you put it up on YouTube on ABC,
on NBC or whatever network I think it was ABC,
You're not going to get a global audience. It's an
American audience. So if you put it on YouTube, the
Oscars can go global. Pictures now they always have there
been for a long time, are really global events. And
so to me, Mark, actually I think it makes a
lot of sense. What do you think it does?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You know? I was looking into this and the peak
audience for the Oscars was in nineteen ninety seven with
the Titanic, and since then just about fifty five million
people watching. And you know, as i've vlid, it's on
about twenty million. So the audiences are rouding. People are
not looking at broadcasts the same way. And YouTube has
two billion users. This is a big opportunity for the
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awards show to people to be watched by many different
people across the world in real time, and they can
make it longer. They don't have to add out curses
and it could be you know, this could be a
really fun thing for the askers.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I like it. I think this is a good to do.
I've just started a YouTube channel, and so my friends,
people in the media, particularly my book publisher, from being
really honest, told me that you have to try and
reach as many people as possible on many, many different platforms.
You can't just be a podcaster, host or a sub
stack writer. You've got to do it as much as possible.
So every day now I post a five days a week,
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I post a little video on YouTube. It's really helped.
You'd be surprised at how many people have discovered me
for the first time. Where you be and I've been
around forever, but it's so interesting. YouTube does reach a
different type of audience, and so I think this was
just the beginning mark. I think we're going to see
a lot more, a lot more shows, a lot more
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award shows going to streaming. Okay, this story made me
made me smile. I saw them recently. I was at
a play on Broadway at art and they sat right
in front of me, George Clooney and Amalk Clooney. Now
he has swore off, Mark swore off kissing. What is
going on?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
That's all right? So the sixty sixty four year old
Hollywood I kind of revealed he's following in Paul Newman's footsteps,
joking that he's done kissing a girl on screen as
he embraces a new phase in his career. He admitted
that Turning Sixties spoke to a reality check about his age,
image and where he fits in in modern movies, and
he's no longer interested in competing with much younger leading
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men or playing the romantic heart throb.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh I like these. When I said he's no longer
going to be kissing, it sounded likely he's not going
to be kissing a ball. I like this. I think
there's something about it, and there's something about being aware
of your age and who you are. And he, because
of the way Hollywood works, he could keep making movies
kissing twenty year old girls. He really could. That we
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don't bat an eyelid when the guy is significantly older,
and he just doesn't want to be that guy. He
doesn't want to be that guy on screen kissing young girls.
I'm sure Amal had something to say about this too,
So I think this is great, hey, And he also
has the power to do it, like a lot of
actors wouldn't have the power to change scripts, Like if
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you hire me, I got to do the script. I
can't decide I don't want to do this part or
that part. So he has the power to do it.
And good for you. Georgia k quickly before we go
to break. Timothy Shallonay skipped his La and New York
after parties of his new film, Marty Supreme. So this
film is meant to be fantastic. I have not seen
it yet. However, friends of mine who woul invited to
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a big fancy party Times Squares. They did this big
party and afterwards they did the star studied reception at
the National Arts Club. I've been their market. It's quite fancy.
I think it's in grammar Soon it is in Gramercy,
really quite fancy. Everybody said they were all aware, except Timothy.
I hit the phones and they said, it's just not
his thing. He doesn't really do press. He walks the
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red carpet, but he doesn't do interviews. He just just photographs.
He slips in and he introduces the movie and then
he goes back to his hotel room, and then that's
sort of it. He's not comfortable too. I say, good
for you. You know, if you want to sell a project,
I'm from the school of more is less. You wait
until this book comes out in April. I'm going to
be everywhere everywhere. But I get it too. If it's
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just not your thing, you do what you have to do,
and then don't force yourself to do something you don't
like doing. He doesn't like parties, he doesn't like this stuff,
you know, but it's your film. I'd probably suck it up,
but it is up to him. Okay, we're going to
take a quick break and we will be right back.
Welcome back to the naughty but nicey heads from Shoot
(15:53):
with a Dear Friend, Mark Lippo. No polls today. We
do not do poles when the subject's so heavy, when
it's so serious, but we all get to do nicest,
which is my favorite part of the show. A nicest
of the day.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Oh wow, it's one of our favorites. Rob Our girl
Taylor Swift has she has some ideas for a tour
or percolating, but Insider says she's in no rush to
get on the road, so Taylor Swift has been off
stage for now, but she's dreaming big. Sources to say
that the pop megastar always has ideas percolating, but a
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future tour is not the immediate future. However, She's now
enjoying a rare earned break after her record shutting eras Run.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What do you think she could sell out tomorrow? Like
a lot of stars have to take a break to
regenerate interest, you get over too Sometimes pop stars are
on the road so much you just you don't want
to see it anymore. Too many times, Taylor is an event,
and so she's very aware of this. I've always said
that Taylor is an extraordinary musician, but she is an
extraordinary marketing publicist. She knows how to do this, and
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so in the moment, it's probably wise that she's given
us a little bit of a break and then in
a few years she'll be back. Though it is not over,
and I'm glad about that. She's too great to not
be touring again. Taylor, whenever you want to do a show,
mark and I will be there, okay, and now and
not is the day? Naughty, naughty, naughty. There's an video
footage of Nick Ryan a looking very calm walking by
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his parents' home after the grisly murden. Now, the reason
this is so important is that whole neighborhood, it was
a really posh neighborhood Brentwood. Cameras are everywhere. If ever
you've been there, there are cameras, not just on the
private houses, on the streets. It's probably the most videoed
neighborhood maybe in America. Cameras everywhere, So we're going to
see a lot of video footage, or at least the
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police are. Now the reason this is so important, as
my my pal Nancy Grace pointed out, they're going to
try and say he was insane. That he was he
had a mental breakdown and killed his parents. This video
does not look like somebody softening with mental health. We
see him at one point going to a store and
buy a drink. You notice his clothes have no blood
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on them, which means after he murdered his parents, allegedly,
he packed a new shirt and new jeans, and he
went into a gas station and paid for the can
of soda with his pull dad his wallet, So he
packed his wallet, he packed a change of clothing. There's
no blood on him. He walked around looking kind of
chilled out. It looked like you and me buying something.
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And so these videos are going to be really, really
important because to argue that he was insane is easy.
You would be insane to do this to your parents. However,
when the jury sees this video, many videos of him
walking around looking so chilled, looking so relaxed, definitely he's
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changed his clothing, then that's going to be harder to prove.
Just a little insight there into the case that's going
to explode in January. Okay, let's end with a moment
of rub You're gonna rob you, gonna rob you again
and roub I thought this was particularly appropriate for today
because of all the stuff in the news. Grief is
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not a problem that you solve. It's a journey that
you have to travel. Stop trying to fix the pain
or rush the timeline. Feel it, it's raw, it's messy,
Cry and scream, do whatever you want to let it out.
You'll have your moments of despair and then bursts of
light and then despair again, and that's totally normal. Don't
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judge yourself because loss changes you, but it doesn't have
to break you. Take small steps every single day, a shower,
call a friend, brief, some fresh air, play with your doggie,
keep showing up for yourself because life goes on and
so will you. Pain fades, but love remains once again
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here grief. It's not a problem that you will ever solve,
It's a journey that you will feel. Hey, that is
it for today. Thank you so much for listening. So
they're not even nice with Rob and Mark shell Mark,
I think we're doing a really good job of balancing
some optimistic and fun news with clearly the biggest story
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of the year here. How do you feel about the tone.
I think we've got it right today.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, listen, it's a very tough story, but you know,
we always try to have a little fun here even
when things are tough, and you know, I think we've
done the right thing today.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I hope. So I don't forget to subscribe on the
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