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May 8, 2025 • 37 mins

Pelicans radio play-by-play broadcaster Todd Graffagnini joins Jim Eichenhofer and Gus Kattengell on the New Orleans Pelicans Podcast to recap Antonio Reeves' 2024-25 NBA season.

“He’s a really good kid. Having a chance to interview him, he’s really humble. He’s not overly talkative, but he’s very aware of what’s going on. He’s a worker, too. You go in the gym and he’s getting up shots. I love to see four-year (college) guys coming into the NBA, because they’ve played a lot of basketball.” – Pelicans radio play-by-play broadcaster Todd Graffagnini on Reeves, who had a five-year college career, one of several New Orleans players with extended NCAA experience

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome in to the New Orleans Pelicans Podcast, the official
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(00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hello everyone, and welcome to New Orleans Pelicans Podcast, official
podcast of your New Orleans Pelicans.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Gus Catton go with you, Jim, I can offer.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
As always, appreciate the time for you to join us
and appreciate the time that Jim gives us to go
over our final player in our player review. Can you
believe that we finally.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Have reached here with fourteen players?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Ye, it was a long race.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
I feel like we're sprinting across the finish line right now.
I don't think we're kind of crawling and wheezing our
way across. I think we still have a lot of energy.
I mean, it does feel like I think this might
be a record for the most that we've ever done.
But that's kind of the way the season went, where
you had fourteen players that played at least five hundred
and four minutes I mean, there's been a lot of
years I think where if the cutoff was five hundred

(01:16):
and six hundred minutes, we probably only had about maybe
nine or ten. But hey, that's the way the Pelican
season went.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
But you have to I mean, it's a good point
that you bring up, right, because the starters. Obviously it's
a storyline of itself. It's one of the reasons we
believe that this team, this franchise has talent, but it's
also a main storyline as to why the season didn't
go the way you would have liked. Because most of
your starters actually all were injured at some point in
time in miss games, if not ended their regular seasons.

(01:44):
Then you go into the reserves. Well, those guys had
to step in be starters and contribute in different ways,
and you had rookies who were called upon to ask
to even start in many instances. So you had to
break it down in those three areas. I thought you
did a good job of doing that because all three
tell the story of the twenty twenty four twenty twenty
five Delican season no doubt.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
I mean, we had to do a Herb Jones one,
even though he didn't play in the second half of
the season at all. De Jontay Murray also didn't play
after the All Star break, but herb played six hundred
and forty eight minutes. De Jontay Murray played on thy twelve,
which I didn't even I mean, he was eighth. Think
about this, he was eighth on the team in minutes played,
and actually really seventh if you take away Javonte Green,

(02:26):
who wasn't on the roster at the end of the season.
So Jontay Murray was seventh in minutes played, even though
he got hurt on January thirty first and didn't play
the rest of the season. So there's a bunch of
other examples of that of guys that played, you know,
I mean, Jeremiah Robinson Earl played twelve hundred and thirty
nine minutes, which was sixth on the team, So there

(02:47):
was a bunch of different examples. There was really just
no way to kind of divvy this down under fourteen.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
So that's what we ended up with. But it was
fun doing this.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
But I'm kinda glad now that we can kind to
turn the page and look forward to the future, which
we will be doing tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
We talked about Carlo Mattkovich here on Wednesday's podcast and
today here on Thursday's Antonio Reeves, and I would say,
those are two players that really stood out to me
in Vegas. And you've heard me refer to that a lot,
I think during these profiles or season reviews, and I
think partly is because it's really kind of our first glance.
And in Jim, I mean it is, right, You've had
the draft, then you have free agency, and you have

(03:25):
all of that, and here's summer league, so it's your
first chance to kind of look at maybe players at
first second year on your roster, players you drafted, and
in a lot of instances is to see have they
elevated their game or not, or here's a plan Shordan
Hawkins as somebody brings up. But you look in the past,
Trey Murphy's rise and jump, Hoose Alvarado's rise and jump,

(03:48):
even Nagi Marshall's rise and jump. Like they've been some
summer leagues who are like, okay, okay, look at these
guys and then sure enough as the season came, they mattered.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So when I look at it, Antonio Reeves, what did
you think I mean from Vegas to to be honest
with you.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, I don't remember hardly any details from Summer
League because it was so long ago. I remember specific
games maybe where Carlo had a huge game, almost had
thirty points in a game. But besides that, it's just
so long ago that I don't remember a ton of
details in terms of what Antonio Reeves did. But I
do think that he was one of those guys that
looked promising as far as his jump shot and his

(04:27):
ability to defend a little bit.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think we saw that in glimpses. And then you fast.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Forward about nine months later in March and April of
the past season, and he got to play a ton
and I think he showed very well for himself in
the opportunity he got during the maybe the final one
third or one fourth of the season.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's a rarity, isn't it in today's NBA. It's it's interesting.
I've had this conversation with several people, and look, obviously
New Orleans, Louisiana. This country's a football right first sort
of town and country. Seven rounds over for I've lost
track of days. It's what it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, all
it's seven rounds over three days. I get it the

(05:10):
NBS too. It's always been fascinating to me where I've
heard coaches in front office people since I've been covering
the NBA, since you know, I got into the business.
After the first couple of picks, you don't know, like, well,
there's only so many picks, like how.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Can you not find two guys?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And especially when you look at the second round, it's
almost been like almost an afterthought. That said, the fact
that Antonio reaves a second round pick, and the fact
that maybe the Pels have used their second round pick,
which some pretty good players.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Second round pick, Yeah, Jose Alvarado was undrafted. Yeah, I mean,
I think it's interesting to me there's been kind of
an evolution of the second round pick in terms of
the value and importance over the last few years, because
I mean, by the way too, back in the day,
the NBA draft was seven eight rounds back in like
the eighties, and Jay Billis I think famously was like
a seventh or eighth round pick, I believe of Dallas.

(06:02):
Don't quote me on that, so, I mean, if you,
but at some point I think it might have been
in the eighties or maybe the early nineties, they they
killed off a lot of the rounds of the draft.
There's been some talk, I think in recent years about,
you know, should they go to three rounds in the
NBA draft, should they go to four rounds. But going
back to my point about the evolution of the second round.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Pick, you've added three.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
These two way contracts now mean that you have you
really have more guys on your roster. Even if your
main roster quote unquote has fifteen players, you now have
three two way contract guys, which it used to be.
Initially it was two two way contract guys. Now every
team in the league has three. So because of that,
because of that, the second round, some of these second

(06:44):
round picks that have been picked in the last year
or two are immediately put on two way contracts. So
there's to make a long story short, I think the
value has kind of increased because there's more ability to have.
I mean, when the rosters used to be twelve, you know,
maybe when we first started the NBA and that was it.
There was no practice squad, there was no G league.

(07:05):
It was just twelve guys that's all you have. Now
you have eighteen. So I think because of that, you
can fill out your roster or your two way contract
spots more with second round picks, So to me, they've
become more important, and I can see the thought process of,
you know what if you added a third round to
the draft, because I'm not really sure what the stumbling
block to that is. Maybe the players Association doesn't wants

(07:27):
to keep it at two rounds and the teams aren't
going to put up a fight over that because it's
not that big of an issue. But what the Pelicans
have done I think too. The Pelicans went into last
year without a second round pick, and so I was
expecting it to be okay. They take Mesi on Wednesday,
which is the first round, then Thursday, that's going to
be quiet, but they end up trading into the second round.

(07:49):
They get Antonio Reeves, and I think he proved that
it was a good move because he was very productive
and took advantage of the chances that he had to play. Now,
the Pelicans again do not have a second round pick
as we speak right now in the beginning part of
May for June twenty six, which is the second round
of the draft, but they could they could trade into
it again this year, so we're gonna have to be

(08:10):
on our toes. I'm gonna have to be ready to
just like I was last year. Kind of caught off
guard a little bit by surprise by the Antonio Reeves pickup.
But I'm glad they did it because I thought he
played really well and showed promise that he has a
chance to be somebody that can be in a rotation
in the future.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Todd Graffanini, voice of the Pelicans on the radio side,
will give us his thought tier in about ten seconds
after I tell you the NBA went to two rounds
nineteen eighty nine, Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I was closed.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
I said.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Nineteen eighty three they had as many as seven ten rounds, sorry,
ten rounds. Then in the seventies as many as twenty rounds.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Wow, that's a long night's lot.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't think I want to go back to that
with the nineteenth pick Jim Iken Haffer such and such
ice school.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I want to see New York.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
I want to say there was I have a vague
memory of this reading about one time that because the
draft was so long that people owners were picking like
their their their daughter and like the eighteenth round just
first to make up for whatever. Yeah, I think that happened,
that might have the MLB draft used to be sixty
seventy rounds too. I think people would randomly do that
as well, just for just for fun, just to have

(09:20):
a laugh.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I'm with you to it'll be interesting to say if
they do add it more or not with the CBA,
because it's a little different now, right, I mean, you
can't really kind of stack teams and stuff. You almost
you're gonna need some draft picks and some young players
to develop.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
The other part that I didn't even mention to when
I was talking about how the importance of the second
round pick has gone up. The injuries across the league
have increased so much too, so you do need more
guys that can play than you used to. I mean,
I mean, if you have, you know, I do think
I'd have to go back and look at this, but
I can almost guarantee you that, you know, we talked
about how in a previous episode, we talked about how

(10:00):
how the Pelicans had fourteen guys that played five hundred
or four minutes. I bet you if you went back,
you know, ten twenty years ago, that you'd see that
very rarely happening, whereas now it's happening a lot more
where you're just going deeper in your roster because the
player availability has changed compared to what it used to be.
You just need more depth now than you used to.

(10:20):
To make a long story short.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, no doubt mean we literally saw it here this season.
And one of those players that did provide that additional
depth and more importantly helped the team is mister Antonio Reeves. So,
without further ado, Tigrafhanini sits down with us and we
look back at the season that was for the Kentucky product.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Back with the.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Radio voice of your New Orleans Pelicans, Tag Graffanini, thank
you so much for joining us again. We had an
interesting conversation. I felt like we could have talked for
a while when it came to Eve me Si Antonio
Reeves off Mike.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
People probably don't know this.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I constantly tell you about it. I was talking to Jim.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I loved him in Summer League, physical defense and offense.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Couldn't wait to see him play.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It took some injuries, It took some time for him
to be able to get onto the court, and quite honestly,
as Willy Green has said it, maybe without those injuries
we don't know. So what did we learn from Antonio Reeves?
You're Willy Green, You're sitting next to him. What did
you learn this here?

Speaker 7 (11:20):
I think we learned that when given the opportunity, he
is an NBA player that you can count on to
make threes and put points up. You look at the
end of the season when he was playing, I mean,
he was given the opportunity, he was starting games. At
the end, he's playing thirty five minutes a game. He

(11:42):
was putting up numbers, and so he just got lost
in the shuffle. He was not going to be a
part of you know, as the roster was quote unquote
intact leaving training camp, there just really wasn't a spot
for him. But when as the season went on and
the injury started to build up and he finally did

(12:03):
get the opportunity, he was able to put up those numbers.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yeah, you know, I mean, there's so many things that
happened the season that a lot of times I had
to go back and check double check things. But one
of the things that stood out to me when I
was looking at his games played that I didn't necessarily
realize until I went back and looked at it was
he only played in twenty seven of the first sixty
four games of the season, so I mean he was
in Birmingham. We're talking many months into the year. He
still really had not played that much. And of those

(12:28):
twenty seven games, I mean he only had a couple,
and when I say a couple, I literally mean like
two or three times where he was really in the
legit rotation. It wasn't like he came in in the
fourth quarter because they were up or down by twenty
five points or whatever. Including one of those handful of
occasions was the game An's Cleveland in November where he
had thirty four where he really showed like, man, this

(12:48):
guy can score at this level at a rate that
is impressive. But he did play in the last eighteen games.
He played in all of those, and I think he
was very prominent during that stretch. He played in at
least twenty three minutes in all April games. So really,
if you review his season, if you go back and
watch the tape, you're really watching the end of March

(13:10):
in April. The rest of the season he did not
play very much at all. But I mean when he
did get to the point where it was like, okay,
every single night. I know I'm going to be in
the game, I'm going to be on the floor for
good minutes. He made a couple starts as well. He
had ended up with six starts. What do you think
what was the thing that impressed you the most about
the way he closed out the season individually?

Speaker 7 (13:30):
I think what was impressive for him was is that
the fact that he was able to kind of get
into the offense. And you know, Willie Green talks about
it all the time. We tell him, you get it,
you're putting it up. You're putting it up. And the
thing if you look at the numbers, Jim, the percentage

(13:55):
was nearly forty thirty nine point five percent shooting the three, yep,
and the volume. I mean, at the end of the year,
he's making three four five threes a game, which is
what you want, definitely. So I'm glad you talked about
that thirty four point game against Cleveland because I had
a chance to talk to him during a Pelican's Weekly

(14:16):
this year and asked him specifically about that game, Jim.
And by the way, that was his birthday that night,
so it was one of those nights that he'll remember
for the rest of his life, and of course, you know,
we didn't. You know, this is November twentieth and we're
playing Cleveland and we've got about eight available right in
that ball game, so he really had to play. And

(14:38):
for him to do that on his birthday against you know,
one of the best teams in the league, that that's
a night that nobody's really gonna forget anytime soon, because
it was awesome to watch.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
You mentioned his three point shooting, and obviously this is
something we're going to talk about a lot with Antonio Reeves,
not just now but going forward. You know, one of
the things from that Cleveland game too that I noted
was he was actually he was fourteen for twenty five
from the field, but he was ten for thirteen on
twos in that game. So the three point shot obviously
is a huge part of what he's going to do

(15:11):
and his one of his biggest strengths. But I feel
like his in between Game two got better as the
season went on, And I mean, what did you see
from that part of the game as far as just
maybe his floaters and just his shots that weren't jumpers
that he was pretty sick.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Yeah, absolutely, and you're right on that when he took
twenty five shots in that game and made four threes,
and so like you said, ten of those shots were
middies or floaters, and that just again comes with more
confidence from playing time, and the more time he got,
the better We saw him as a flat shooter just

(15:47):
because of he knew and go back to what you know,
you hear all the time, and you could talk about
Jordan Hawkins in this aspect. When Hawkins was in lineup
or he knew he was going to play twenty to
twenty five minutes a game, you saw the productivity go up.
It's when he just didn't know what part of the

(16:08):
rotation he was going to be in. And that's when
you get into when I get in, I need to
just start, yeah, jacking up shots because you don't know
how much time you're going to get. And that's when
he would get into trouble. And I think it's the
same thing applies to Antonio Reeves because when he knew
he was going to play extended minutes, we saw the
offense really step up. It's just that thought of am

(16:33):
I coming out at the next you know, whistle, Am
I going to be subbed out? I think that has
everything to do with confidence, and we saw it with
Reeves at the end of the year.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
I wonder a little bit in terms of how productive
he was this season and how successful I thought he
was in capitalizing on his chances to play. Is the
fact that you know, for example, he's twenty four, he
played five years in college. He was in two different places,
Illinois State and then Kentucky. We've gotten to the point
where we're downgrading players so much if they spend more

(17:04):
than a year in college. It seems like the Pelicans, though,
have gone kind of the opposite way. If you think
about Herb Jones spent a lot of time in college.
Trey Murphy did as well. Yeah, but specific to Antonio,
I mean, how would you describe I feel like he's
pretty He's a pretty quiet guy from what I've seen.
I don't know if he will be more talkative, as
you know, he gets more comfortable when he's.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Around here more. But what did you see from his approach?

Speaker 5 (17:26):
It seems like he's a pretty serious guy, and I
think that benefited him as well.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
He's actually a really good kid.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
I mean, again, just having a chance to interview him
for Pelicans Weekly, He's really humble. Like you said, he's
not overly talkative, but he's very aware of what's going on.
And look, he's a worker.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Two.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
I mean you go into gym and he's getting up shots.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
He's so I.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Think being look as someone who came out of the
college rank, so to speak. I love to see four
four year guys coming into the NBA because they played
a lot of basketball. It's just when you get someone
coming out of high school or won and done, how
much basketball have you played and against what type of

(18:12):
competition have you played against? I mean Antonio Reeves, you know,
playing at Kentucky. I mean he's going up against the
best of the best every single night, and he was
producing in that role. So I just think that it
really helps what you're gonna do. You go back to
what Herb Jones did, what what jose Alvarado did. Four
year players in college going up against the best of

(18:34):
the best. Osey took Georgia Tech to the ACC Championship.
They won an ACC championship in years and years and years,
and Herb Jones is the SEC defensive Player of the Year.
Going up against competition every night, that has to help
coming into the NBA.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I think that's one of the things that stand out
to me is people maybe don't think and forget me,
Kentucky's pretty good, right, yet a lot of players, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
They've been pretty good over the years.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, he led the Wildcats in school, right, so he
wasn't a score for Kentucky. He was the highest score.
And to your point, I think it's something that maybe,
as Jim says, we tend to either overlook almost a
minute sometimes, but when you play there, or you go
through a couple of SEC tournaments, ACC tournaments, NC DOUBLEA tournaments,

(19:20):
that the travel, the expectations that going on the road,
the packed houses you're playing, right, I like when you
play for Kansas, like you're.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
You're playing you're playing twenty three thousand free night roper in.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I mean, no doubt every night I think that you
that helps you cause.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
I mean how many times you look the SEC was
the best basketball conference in college basketball this year, and
the consensus around, you know, even before the tournament started,
was the SEC tournament is going to be harder than
the NC two A tournament.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Right.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
If you came out of that and you won that tournament,
you're gonna be as prepared as anybody to win a
national championship.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, you know, I think the other element too of
you know, we're talking about how much we like some
of these guys that play for even five years of college.
Like Gus said, I mean, the experience that they get
everything that they have under their belt is great as well.
I think you can't really make a blanket statement on this,
But I think the other part of it too is
that a man is at twenty four is a different

(20:21):
person than he is at nineteen, and so, I mean
there's always exceptions to this. There's people that are sure
eighteen that are more mature than I am. Now, there's
people who are thirty five and they never will be mature.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
So it depends.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
But I do feel like in some of the cases
with the Pelicans, like Trey and Herb are good examples
of this. They came relatively older I use that in
quotes when they got here, and you could see like
how ready they were to be pros. So I think
that's something that maybe the front office had prioritized of,
like we want guys that are mature, we want guys
that have that You're just a different You're just a

(20:54):
different person. I think a lot of times we could
probably reflect on that ourselves in our own lives of
how much different you are when you're in your mid
twenties than when you're still a teenager.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Graph I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Throw a couple palistats at you were getting Tonio Reeves pelistat,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna mention too, this isn't a pelistat,
but just just a note that he Antonio Reeves was
sixth in scoring average among second round picks from last year.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
In fifth and three point.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Makes so, I mean he was the forty seventh pick,
so by my math, that means he was the seventeenth
player taken in the second round. So in some in
a bunch of different areas, I think he outperformed a
lot of the guys that were picked ahead of him
in round two. Granted, some of that was the opportunity
that he got.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Was I was going to say, how much, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Some guys didn't get to play it all correct, so
that it's not necessarily a fair comparison, But just a couple,
you know, footnotes on him to the palistats. The two
numbers you actually the first one, you actually kind of
referenced already, which is thirty nine point five, which is
he led the team in three point percentage. I mean, no,
he didn't just have a good year. He was the
best three point shooter in terms of accuracy of anybody.

(21:57):
He shot forty four point nine percent from three after
the All Star Break in the twenty games that he played.
He shot thirty one percent before that, so while he
was sporadically on the court, his numbers were lower. And
then the second number is fifty eight and sixty seven,
which in the month of March, those were his percentages
from the field and then three point range, respectively. So

(22:20):
sixty seven percent on threes.

Speaker 7 (22:22):
That's Gus catten Gill right there, That is Gus catt
and go with his pom poms in Las Vegas, going
Antonio Reves. Antonio read all, Yeah, said the old Gus Kattingill,
pat on the back, pat on his own back.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
Wait, hold on, he yeah, yep, there it is. Now,
I'm going to go with the sixty whatever, fifty.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Eight percent from the field, sixty seven, I'm going to
go with the.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Fifty eight sixty seven.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
That just again shows you when given the opportunity, knowing
he's going to play a lot. He just loosened up
and was able to just.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Let it fly. Right.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
We talk about fifty forty ninety ninety, and that's something
that Treys has been chasing in the NBA.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
I will not rest until Trey Murphy goes fifty forty nine.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Right.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
But Antonio had fifty eight sixty seven in the first
bat number, So that's.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
What do you do with He didn't really get to
the free throw line very well.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I didn't mention that part because I think he was
like three for four something like.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
That in March.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So yeah, did you say in March?

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, let me while you guys are talking, let me
look that up.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Yeah, I was gonna say I thought he was. Oh no,
What I was going to say is the thirty nine
point five, which again, uh is pretty darn good in
the last game of the season. And I did a
little research here, Jim, so you should be proud of
me here in the last game of the regular season
against OKC, which basically is a blip in my memory. Uh,

(23:43):
he went zero for five from three in the last
game of the regular season.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
So if he makes.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Maybe a couple of those threes, he's at forty percent.
I think that dropped him down below forty percent for
the year. That oh for five on game eighty two.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
I did look it up.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
He was four for six on free throws in Dodge's
I didn't put that in there because that's only sixty
seven percent.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Well, that's not going to get a moment of line.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
So now.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I guess one of the things I want to wrap
up with you is there's two One may surprise you,
but I think you'll remember from yesterday that.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
We talked about.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
But you your two players in the player profiles. Even
me see and Antonio Reeves two young players man, two
players that I don't know what the expectations were on there.
I think a lot of times when we talk about
the upcoming season for the Pels and what they can
do health, but a lot of it goes around the veterans.
I think this is something for Pells fans to be

(24:36):
excited about. You do have some nice young pieces to
go with some veteran players to go into this team.
I keep saying this, whether it's Australia, whether it's across.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
The parking lot.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
When training camp starts, I think it's going to be
fun because you had a lot of young guys that
saw a lot of minutes, and I don't know about you.
My kids starting to get it right now. Baseball, he
made a play. Now he wants to play. Now I
wants to practice. You get that taste of success, and
then you get that belief that I can play well,
I want to play.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
I couldn't agree with you more, couldn't agree with you more.
We talked about it with me Si and today with Reeves.
He got a taste and he got an extended taste.
And just look at the numbers. He produced three twenty
point games, forty from three. Look, he knows he can
play in the NBA. Now, it's just what is he

(25:25):
going to do in the offseason and how he is
going to let the opportunity that was given to him
at the end of the year, how is it going
to affect him coming into next year, and the confidence
he's going to have coming into the next season.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right now, we wrap up with what I've been looking
forward to Earlier this week. I don't know if you
saw alter Casey, A little incident took place in Milwaukee
with Indiana as that series came to a conclusion.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Daddy Halliburton and Jannis. You seen this, you saw this.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
I'd never really I heard about it. I know what happened.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Well, all you need to do.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I thought we were what Jim and I were discussing,
if there were ever a time that the graph would
run onto the court.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
And hold either.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
A towel or beasts how whatever it was with the
picture of I don't know. I guess for you would
be the Pelicans or so. I don't even know if
it was Alerburton that was on there, I don't know
what it was. But at some point in time, forehead
to forehead happened, right Tyres and Yaa is touching the
I'm not saying that you would do that, but if
there would be a player following a Pels win that you.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Would just just get in front of and just grin.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Maybe you don't go dog cussing, maybe you don't put
your forehead.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah we don't need that.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But just just the old graph grin, the bleep eating grin.
I suggested some three players to Jim when we were
talking about this earlier in the week.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I want to hear from you. Give me your top
three players.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
You couldn't wait, And there's the butt headsets on the
floor and the graph is on the court, and you're
gonna get right in front of these three players face.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
And just great.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
Draymond Green, Rudy Gobert and Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Wow, it's a good list. It's a good list.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Nobody from O's door.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
I was gonna say, you know, really restricting him.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I know this is Rudy Gobert was that runaway favorite.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And look to your point though, right the Lakers season
came to an end because in the fourth quarter Rudy
Gobert absolutely dominated. But that it's to your point you
were talking about with Eve MESI right, I mean that
the center and the big doing.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
I mean, you know, you go back to we I
know we talked about me and about how much you know,
he's got to put on some girth.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Look, Rudy Gobert has.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
Been in the league for a long long time, and
you know he's filled out. And at the end of
the year, when we're playing Minnesota and you saw me
Si on the court and go Bears on the court,
you realize how much work me he's got to do
in the weight room. You know what I'm saying, You
just just naturally filling out again. He's only twenty years old,

(28:08):
so that's gonna come. But I mean, you know, go Bear,
you know, good job for him to eliminate the Lakers.
We could go, we could go a whole another show
with with the l but I mean, you know, you
go the other night, you got Dylan Brooks, Brandon Pajemski,
and Draymond Green all in the court at the same time.

(28:29):
And boy, we we didn't even know that Pat Spencer
was being taught by Brandon Pagemski on how to be
a punk. I mean, what do we look? Wow, Golden State.
I tell you what, man, they're they're going down my list.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
They are. They are sinking.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
That's another part.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
You watched it.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
You watch it, you watch the game, the last part
of the Rockets Golden State Game five. Yeah, this is
gonna be a whole No, we could go, we could
go really really deep, grass angs to go through it.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
You can't have it. Let's end, Let's end positively.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, let's do that for sure.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
But obviously that's one of the things that we look
at to see as hopefully we'll be talk about the
postseason next year.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I think we've all agreed.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Todd since we won't hear from you here for a
little bit, and now all the guests that we've had
for our player profile podcast. If there's health, this team's
got talent. This team has enough talent to make some strides.
We did one for Pelicans Plus in which I said boldly,
I absolutely think they're competing for a top six spot
next year.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
You agree, I.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Agree, it went healthy. That's we've been waiting for them
a long time. But let's just hope that all the
injury luck has passed the spy and we can get
into uh, you know, normal situations now and not having
to replace an entire starting lineup one week end of
the season.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
I think I think we've we've had a lot of
seasons where we've talked about the depth, what we've projected
to be. I think the difference this time is that
the depth is very tangible in terms of you have
so many guys that have either in previous years before
they were hurt a lot this season, did a ton
in the NBA, or guys that for the first time
got a chance to play and did pretty well with it.
Whether we're talking about you know, even mec with Graft

(30:12):
earlier this week, or Antonio Reeves today. So to me,
that's the difference I think this time is that you
just have the list of guys that have done something
positive and shown that they can be good NBA players,
I think is pretty long in terms of just very specific,
tangible things that you can point to as opposed to,
you know, theoretical ideas about how deep the team can be.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
There is looking forward to it, sir, Thank you. Here's
always radio voice of your New Orleans Pelicans, Tag Graffanini.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Thank you, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
All right, thanks to Todd Graffanini, who actually just is
going to turn around, come right back in because we're
gonna have a very special radio round table coming up
to discuss what's coming up on Monday. Jim, let everybody
know what's coming up a monthy, Yes, Monday, six pm
Central is the twenty twenty five NBA Draft Lottery. This
is going to be the focus of Friday's episode on

(31:01):
the podcast. We are going to have a radio roundtable
with John de Chazer and Todd Graffanini. So I mean
this is it goes about saying the NBA Draft Lottery
is a huge event at this point.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
It's something that people look forward to every year. You know,
we're gonna get a lot into the specifics with the Pelicans,
just just the main thing you need to know is
that they have a twelve point five percent chance of
winning the lottery. They have a forty eight percent chance
of finishing in the top four, and that's really the
only the main thing that is determined at the lottery.
The only thing that's determined at the lottery is those

(31:34):
first four picks. After that, it's reverse order of record.
And then you know, a couple other quick notes related
to the Western Conference that I think are relevant and
things that we'll get into probably a little bit. So
Oklahoma City has a chance to pick seven, eight or
nine with the Philadelphia seventy six ers pick because that's
top six protected, so okay See has a chance to

(31:54):
add another guy like they really need it.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm thinking that the.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Spurs have two are gonna have two lottery picks because
they also have Atlanta's and they have their own picks,
So I mean, we probably don't want to see them
move up to the top of the of the draft either.
They have a six percent chance with their pick, and
then they have a zero point seven percent chance with
Atlanta's pick of winning the lottery, and then Houston is
in the number nine slot. They have a seventeen percent

(32:20):
chance at top four pick. They acquired their pick, this
one from Phoenix. They have a three point eight percent
chance of winning. And then lastly, the the Spurs. I
kind of think I already referenced this, but the Spurs
are in the fourteenth. They're in the eighth slot and
the fourteenth pre lottery slot going into the lottery. So
few things to keep in mind in the Western Conference

(32:42):
beyond the.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Pelicans, Antony Davis Zion Williamson two other times that the
organization has won the lottery and selected a top plick. Overall,
there were higher or lower chances back then, right, this
is the highest probability chance wise, this.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Is I believe any Davis one was thirteen point seven, Okay,
so this is eleven. This is actually in between, so
this is twelve point five. I actually have this here somewhere.
The Zion Williamson one was six percent.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
So but this is you.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Know, it's funny because they changed the format and they
changed their percentages. So this is actually the highest pre
lottery slot they've had since twenty twelve. They were also
fourth and twenty twelve going into the lottery, but the
percentage is lower because they've changed the percentages from what
they used to be. So it used to be if
you had a one of the three worst records in
the league, you had a twenty five percent chance or

(33:38):
was it twenty or twenty five percent chance?

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Now it's fourteen. So they've drastically taken.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
And so that's the reason why this isn't the highest
percentage that they've had to win the lottery in the
last fifteen years or so, but it is tied for
the highest best slot that they've had over that timeframe.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Well, you definitely want to tune into that very special
podcast which will come out on Friday. In it, Jimi
k Andoffer does his best interpretation of what it would
be like to have him as NBA commissioner.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yes, looking forward today.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
As I haven't It's not like I haven't done that
a lot during the season, all right, but why not
do it again one more time?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I love it. It's all good again.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Fourteen players, we took a look back at their seasons
with the Pels this year. It is all on the
website with an accompanying written piece from Jym, So go there,
check it out and it'll tie you over it and
you know, maybe maybe we'll go upstairs and ask if
we can do a post lottery podcast, especially if the
Pels do wind up winning that pot. That lottery on

(34:37):
Monday again, Monday, May twelve is when it's going to
take place, and it's before one of the playoff games
over on ESPNS.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yes, before Celtics Knicks Game four, so nice lead into
the game. I feel like if the Pelicans win the lottery,
I won't be watching much of that Celtics Knicks game
because we'll be preoccupied with other things and we'll be
doing some post event cover. I'm sure there'll be some
interviews that are available and stuff like that. So let's
hope that Game four of the Boston New York game

(35:07):
is not on my agenda for Monday night. Let's hope
I skip that game completely.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Do you think they stay in the top four.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna give you a I'm gonna
say they have a forty eight percent chance.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Of doing that.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Is it just it would be the Furthest. Let's just
get this out there way too.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
The Furthest they can follow is double where they are right,
so it would be eight.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
That is the furthest. So they can't go fourteen thirty.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Four spots is the furthest that any team can can drop,
no matter where they start the lottery. Obviously, if you're eleven, twelve, thirteen,
or fourteen, you can't drop more than four. But yeah,
if you finish, if you finish one through I think eight,
you can drop four spots down from wherever. That is,
if you get bumped by four teams behind you. So
when the when they start opening the envelopes, will be

(35:50):
hoping that there it stays according to form, at least
until you get to the four spot. We'll hope that
none of those teams behind the Pelicans can can bump
them and push them out of the top for.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Just a couple more days to find out where New
Orleans will select in the upcoming NBA Draft. We hope
you've enjoyed all of the reviews and going back and
seeing what this team was like this year. It wasn't
the season everyone liked, but you could see the reasons
why we looked at the starters, we looked at the reserves,
and we also looked at the rookies and their contributions,
which is a reason we're kind of excited for the

(36:21):
upcoming season and the meantime, enjoy the playoffs. They've been fun.
I know Jim talked about that already this week. Let's
see what takes place and we'll be back with you
real real soon. On the New Orleans Pelicans podcast. I'm
Gus Kat and Gallus, mister Jim, Mike and offer thank
you sir, Thank you guys, all right, and as always,
appreciate you tuning in right here on the New Orleans
Pelicans Podcast.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
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