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April 28, 2025 • 65 mins

This week on New Rory & Mal, we debate fan comments on our Nas picks bad beats Instagram asset, Mal asks Demaris if there's a double standard with men dating younger women, the worst brands of water, and speculate on what went down with Shannon Sharpe relating to the sexual assault allegations

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Peas drop that beat? Did our nads worst bet picker
and rat make it to our best of damn that
that clip I saw. There was definitely some some back
and forth. I even have people texting me about that ship,
and it was I felt an easy proof, like I

(01:03):
think I solved this rumor. Which one the NAS does
not pick bad beats? I mean, you guys, A Rockefeller
concocted this whole conspiracy to try to ruin his legacy
and put it out there, and then Vlad says it
every five minutes and now everyone just what else across
the board just goes bad beats.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Men just sat in and said he asked him about
that years ago, and Nas himself said he picks bad
said he picks bad beats on purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
He didn't say picks bad beats. He said that he
wants the people to listen to what he's saying more
than the music. That doesn't mean it's a bad beat.
It may not be, you don't know from just blaze,
but they're not bad beats. They're just maybe not like
the crazy beats.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
That you just focus on. The beat is eth the
bad beat? Yes, all right? Awful?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
That works?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, it worked, it works, It definitely worked. But to
say that somebody said is a fire.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Beat all right?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Is a ghetto technology even know if.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's a real account shouting, now, what the fuck is
work man fifty one, it's not even a real click
on that, click on that, let's see what the fuck
that is.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
It's not even a real person like ether is a
fire beat? No, it's not. It's about that's about iever
said that it's definitely a botch.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Anthony, friend of the show manages Kendrick and Nas bots.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Off of the Nas beats me in Fire or not.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Maybe Anthony, I don't know what the account from Keato
to NAS did do the bot thing for the day.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I don't think they're sending they're sending box to say
no to the beats but not.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I just think it's unfair because I think Jay has
bad beats. Sometimes every rapper does. They just put it
on Nas, and I was actually shocked a lot of
people did agree with me because that's just been the
running thing forever.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I mean, I think that Nas has obviously some some
great beats in his discography, but there's a thing. Even
when he got with hit Boy and they did their
their collection, people the thing was, Oh, he's finally getting
beats that are going to be consistently at a certain level.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
So it's it's a thing that people feel like Nas
doesn't have the greatest beats for one to be one.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Of the greatest rappers.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Obviously, people feel like a lot of his songs, some
of the beats are just like, ah, that was cool,
but compared to other you know, other greats other great rappers.
People feel like his discography probably has the most beats
that are just a little lackluster. Now, I don't think
that every beat NAS has is weak or trash, no,
but I do think there are some songs where I'm
just like, the performance is what carried this. His his

(03:30):
what he's saying, and his you know, his rhyms is
what carried it. But if you just listen to the music,
it's just like, it's cool, it's not incredible music.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Thirty year career speaks for itself. Who are all these
magical rappers that pick great beats over thirty year career.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, but I've heard of your career that we can
say as a flawless beat selection.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, but it doesn't have to be flawless.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Like if you look at somebody like uh jay Z,
he obviously you know, is not going in there saying
I'm gonna pick a bad beat and that the rhyms
carry the song. You go in there and you find
a beat that you feel like embodies or captures you know,
what you're saying, and can kind of, you know, just
carry a little bit of the emotions that you're trying

(04:12):
to project through your rhyms. But I mean it is
a thing though that people just feel like some of
Naz's music is just not up to the level of
Naz's rapping ability.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
That's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I don't think that that's some false narrative that people created.
I think that's a real thing.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Blueprint too, I think adds some missus. Volume three is.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
As everybody how everybody has missing them every every part
of every.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Four is flawless. But yeah, anyone that has this long
of a criers.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, I mean, you're not gonna love every beat from
every song.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
You're not.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's just impossible. You're not gonna love every beat. But
as somebody who's been listening to Nos for years, that
is a real thing. I don't think this is some
made up new thing that the Internet of social media
just tried to make up and carry. It was a
real thing that, you know, Naz's production sometimes is like
I wouldn't have went with that one, But obviously NAS's
rhyms is incredible, so it works. But I think overall,

(05:06):
you know a lot of people feel like NAS's music
and it has gotten better later on in his career.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I want you.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
But I still think from ninety four to two thousand
and two flawless, I'm not mad at and sand Street's
disciple got a little weird. That one got odd, Okay,
I don't know what's going on in the studio that day.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
That double disc that's where it always gets tricky. That
was a time when rappers tried to do the double
dishit It was like, famn, like you could have just
condensed this to one and just left it alone. That
that was like the every rapper felt like they had
to do that to kind of prove themselves.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That was like a yeah, you gotta get your double
dish it off.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
And it's like I get it. Everyone at that point
was chasing Pockin big and they both have classics. All
Eyes on Me, Life after Death, fucking flawless.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
No skip double albums.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
That doesn't mean the rest of the world that's tried right,
like at all, because Blue could have been close to
Blueprint if it was just ten records.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I say the whole time, just condensed it to one album, and.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Then Street's disciple like as a nastan I like certain
records on there, but it was not needed for like
at one point he's he just did like the first
Ai voice when Shorty got Aids and he was rapping
as her and I thought it was little Kim for
the first time, and then I realized it was Nads
pitched up.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I was like, you know what, man, I don't know
if this albums for me. This one's rough.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, And now we're doing biographies about KRS one when
Wikipedia exists or rock him rather, I forgot streets.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
It was.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
It was a weird time and then you're taking two
singles back to back with hip hop is dead using
the thief scene beat like. I was confused so much
what was going on at that time.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But hit Boy gave Na's new life.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I guess that's a real narrative. Though, that's a real thing.
People was happy to hear Nas.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I love all.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
The time when I say locking with one producer, but
I think that's when you make your best music.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
He needed to do that. But that's a stretch like
hip boy. Of course, legend is own, right, But gave Nas.
I know, I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Nas was okay because when you say new life, it's
kind of sound like NAS was dead out here. No,
NAS's career wasn't dead, but I do understand he gave
him a new kind of frequency.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
He gave him a new sound.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
And I think more of an output because NAS never
had an output like that. I think, okay, I will
give this comment some credit then, because yes, that gave
NAS a new way of putting.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
NAS didn't need New Life. Yes, Nas we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Because before like The King's Disease, Life is Good existed,
which is close to a classic album.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
So I don't really know about New Life.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
But anyways, it was cool to see. I've liked our
prob for the last few months because I feel like
we're back to like just discussing music. Of course, we're
talking about baddies and bullshit, but you know, I like
having those nerdy convos.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's why I love that mechon.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
But I like to see people react to music shit
for real, not stanhit like the Day twenty six video.
Comments are all about music. Yeah, no messy shit, no
puff shit.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Like.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I love that we can get engagement this way rather
than always having.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
To do I like this comment right here, Renaissance Man
Underscore the Seven says, even if you owe me, it's
considered good. Many don't agree there's still not enough evidence
of him doing those type of records to say that,
Oh I can do that when I want to.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Nah, And I absolutely love Nas.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I ran through the KD Katie and Magic series. I
ran through the KDE and Magic series just yesterday. But
I ain't mining that last part, the last part being
that Nas said he picks bad beats on purpose, Yeah, which.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I don't really think. That's exactly what's trying to say.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
The Marius, what did you think about Tracy Ellis Ross
and what she said about her liking to date younger
men because they're the toxic masculinity of men her age
little too much? And if I said that, could I
get away with it?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Isn't it? No?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Because but she is who you are talking about, like
you're the toxic man she was describing me.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Not toxic. I'm toxic. Let me know. Don't get quiet.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Oh no, what's not the living gates first, lebron, I see,
I'm there.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
You think I'm toxic for real?

Speaker 6 (09:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think, Uh, you have some old school mentalities of
things that you say. It's from a good place. I
know you don't mean in a mean malicious way, but
people could view it as toxic. Like what, there's no
such thing as a bisexual man?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Okay, what else?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Forty five?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Forty seven? Trump? What wait? Now you lost? You have
me on the first one, and I was grateful.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't want to just list off a thing where
now we could like invite ourselves to get canceled.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
See I'm trying. I'm trying to talk real like you
ain't trying to talk real.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
No, it's a real Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I get.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
I mean I only saw like a little bit of
that clip. I didn't really watch it, but I mean,
I guess I get where she's coming from. If that's
what she's saying, that the men her age or have
a little bit of more of a toxic masculinity thing.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, I can. I can understand that.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
But if she goes too young, she's also gonna run
into the toxic masculinity thing.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
She has to stay with the young millennials.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age. I would have rather
her just say she likes younger guys.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
Toxic masculinity doesn't always have an age, But there are
some preconceived beliefs within different generations. Different generations believe certain
things like, for example, there's a bunch of articles on
how gen Z is more susceptible to the Andrew Tait rhetoric,
because that's because of how they grew up, being sheltered,
not really going out and seeing the world, being on

(10:46):
the internet, the addiction to porn, and all this woman
hating rhetoric.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
It's become very prominent in gen Z men.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
So there is so no toxic There isn't just one
set of generation that's toxic, but some more than others.
Some are more susceptible to things more than others due
to the media they were exposed to, due to the
things that was cool when they were growing up, the
belief systems that their parents had, like the music, the movies, everything,
all of that has an effect. So if she's dating
people Rory's age in comparison to dating people that might

(11:17):
be in their late twenties or early forties, it's going
to be a little bit different.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
So I understand what she was saying.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I'm probably a little bit more progressive than my
father's just my generation period, but it is odd to
what the marriage just said too. The generation under me
is like more toxic than my dad's generation.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Of course, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Toxic masculinity doesn't have an age like, it's not it's
how you were raised, where you were raised.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Like to me, that's more so.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
With yeact that's not just the a defintely zip code,
it's not just the age like.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's why again, I would have rather I felt like,
and I love Tracy Ellis Ross, I'm a huge fan
of I thought that, you know, she just her saying
because she dates that's that's why she dated you people,
because of the toxic message. I'm just like, I would
rather just say I just like younger guys.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
Well, that also could just be her experience. That could
have been the it's always sad.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Your personal experience.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
But I'm just saying what she said and the reason
for her dating younger guys I thought was just like,
that doesn't make any sense because you can find a
young guy that's more toxic than you say. I'm toxic,
way more toxic. These little Wayans.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Twenty seven, they be talking to chicks.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
I'm like, yo, why I don't think that Tracy Ellis
Ross is dating Wyans. She's dating younger men, but she's
not dating Wyans.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I mean you don't know that.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
I don't know that, but I can assume we all
we all live on assumptions here.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I could come in the front row at little T. J. Stroud.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, I could see a dating little Wyan just for
the you know, just for the thrill. Like I don't
know if this little nigga going, you know, rob me
or not.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Let's just see.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
But I mean, we've all had the older men have
had the conversation if they like dating younger women. I
had that conversation recently with a man that's heading into
his forties where he likes dating younger women, not creepy
young but women who haven't been the older women get.
The more we see and the smarter we become, and
the more, if you want to say, damaged, we become
because the fantasy is gone.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Right.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
The younger you are, the more you still hold on
to the fantasy of this this dream man and believe
in that dream man. As you come into you learn more,
you come into contact with more men. It's like, oh,
I'm chasing a unicorn and this is more more than
likely not real. So if someone's love bombing me, more
than likely this will not last. Like you don't really
believe the things you used to you use, you lose
your naivity, So it's easier to date. Even if you

(13:31):
are trying to be a good guy, it's easier to date.
I can see why they say it's easier to date
younger women because they're more likely to believe you. Even
if you are really a good guy, they're more likely
to believe you. A older woman is more likely to
give you a hard time and make you really have
to prove how good of a guy you are, because
they bullshit the.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Bullshit beautiful way to just say. Young girls are easy
to manipulate.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
But that was my thing with Chase.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
When Tracy said what she said, I'm like, oh you could,
we could run laps around these a little.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Young d I would have let her manipulate me and
twenty two Tracy old.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hell yeah, I'm not mad at.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
That chicken manipulay me now. Yeah, I believe anything she says.
I believe that all older men are toxic.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I've met every one of them.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, they're old toxic.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Well for you, if rolls are reversed, we couldn't get
that shit off, get that.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Ship off all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
God, yo, older guy's they younger girls, but they get
shipp about it.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
They ain't even got it, and I kind of think
they shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Something.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
You could see an older guy walking a restaurant you
at with a younger girl, and you and whoever you
at the table, you're gonna start talking about that ship, No,
cut it out.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
It depends on how yo, It depends on how young.
If I can see that that girl is way too young,
then yeah, we're gonna talk shit.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
But we automatically a young man walks into a restaurant
you're at with a twenty four to twenty five year
od girl, you're gonna have something shit.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
That's because that's really that's a huge age difference. That's
a twenty something year age different a dude that's seven
years older than his girl.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Nobody's checking for that. That happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
We're not talking about seven years. We're not talking about
what Tracy.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
WHI much significantly younger than.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
Did she say twenty five years? Did she say she's
dating people twenty five years? She put an age on it,
but did she just say younger?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Nobody says I date younger people, and it be a
five hour.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Courage what women do, because women are not used to that.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
So if a woman is dating a.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Guy to even remember, I told y'all went out to
a date with a guy that was three years younger
than me, and I'm like, he's like younger than me,
just fifty.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Two years old. How old do you think the men
she did.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
I'm sure she's dating men in their early forties.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
All right, I'm sure she has too. I'm talking about
when she says she dates younger men.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
I'm sure she's talking about men in their early forties,
maybe late late thirties.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
I don't think that she's dated early thirties.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's definitely talking about thirties man, not so thirty two
year old.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
But I mean, that's if that's what you guys took
from that.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's even if it's a thirty five year old, it's
a seventeen year difference.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah. If Tracy Ellis walked.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Down here right now, her boyfriend was thirty five and
she's people gonna talk about her.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
Too, People gonna talk about her quicker than they talk
about them.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
No, but it's a different talk though. It said diferent,
And that's my point, it's a different talk when it's
a woman with a guy.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
If difference, y'all, y'all niggas dragged Drea to the ends
of the fucking earth.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But that's no.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
But that was different because she was actually around him
and his girlfriend since they were in high school.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
That whole situation was different.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
That's why they gave Drea ship about that, because Jalen's
ex girl and Drea were actually she was mentoring Jenyen.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
They gave her ship about. They were like, he's the
same age as your son. That's what what they were
giving her ship about. Okay, valid, that's not a valid
shit giver. No, But what I'm saying is, yeah, she
still caught ship. Like, let's not make it seem like
women are around ship for it.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
No, no, no, But that's that situation that you can
understand that. No, if you're dating a guy that's the
same age.

Speaker 7 (16:43):
Just I can't understand anything. I can understand all of
what they're saying. But what I'm saying is we're not
just gonna paint it like women can do it and
make and they don't catch you.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
We're speaking in general, not specifics. Typically, when an older
guy is with a younger girl, What is the reason
she wants money he wants young If we're talking typically,
what if.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
More than fifteen years? Sure?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Okay, when it happens typically with an older woman and
a younger man, let's say a fifty year old and
a thirty five year old, is everyone going to bring
up income or they're gonna be like, oh, maybe like
each other.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
They usually say that they're taking advantage that he's trying
to take advantage of hert for money. If Tracy Ellis
Ross is with a thirty five year old and if
he don't happen to have money.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I'm saying in general, we've seen that before where income
isn't a thing. We've never seen a broke old man
with a young thing. It's never happened.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Yeah, it does happen where just because you don't you
don't see it because you don't care about broke people.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
So you're not checking.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
You're not checking.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
April fifteen, I'm got a fucking dollar.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
You're talking about this.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
And when we're in people's business, they're celebrities, so they
have money. You only know their business because they're celebrities
that have money. So you're not checking for the business
of people who are not Celebrits with money. So you
can't sit there and say, well, we don't hear about them.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Of course you don't. They're broke, you don't know them.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Why would you know them?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
All right, But the marriage, what we're saying is this,
if you you could be walking outside, the chances of
you seeing a younger girl with an older, significantly older
man and he's not well off is what slim to none.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Okay, walk down Collins. That's my experience.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
I see it.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
You won't know that.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
That's not for me to speak on situations because these
are people that I know, but I see it.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
They fucking with an older, broke man. He's not well off.
They with a younger broke with an older broke Meggat.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Why y'all think that people don't people don't date.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm not saying broken don't date. I'm just saying a
woman is not seeking out, No, she's.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Not seeking out, but women date men who don't own,
people who don't have any money date.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
That's why I start with just in general, like percentage wise,
usually what a stereotype would if you walk down Collins
in Miami right now. You will run into old men
with young women and they're not famous, but you can
assume one thing that they are.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Yeah, that's Miami. That's Miami.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, all right, Manhattan rich.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
All right?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
So where we will We want me to look Little Rock,
Arkansas anyway.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Broke older man with young girls.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
No, but the young girls are sucking them for that
check that he get on the first game.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
But we got doing that.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It ain't much dollar, ain't much, but it's something. It's
something there. It's an insensive. It's an insensive. That old
nigga he first of the month. Come, she righted his
screade with him.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
The girl.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
He wanted me to just cook for him and just
you know, rub his feet. He gonna give me a
little eight hundred dollars. That's a lot, you know, just
some people eight hundred dollars just to kickt just to
go over there and kicking.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Oh man, need they feet rough?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
You're available hundred dollars cash. That's great.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I told you they do anything for money.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
That's you make something, shake, yo, he makes some shake
for a hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I'll make him a smoothie.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
That was a terrible, terrible joke.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Oh my god, shout out to Tracyeller's rosster. Fuck it.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Let her get U ship off thirty five in two week.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
And this is why when you say stuff like that, bude,
you gotta clarify, because she could be talking about a
nigga that seven years younger than her.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And twenty five year old men I Tracy Ellis rose
age saying she likes younger guys and saying the dude
is forty five. It's not a younger guy.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
That but not even know but women actually nice and
saying thirty five.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Like come on, yeah, Like it's okay. She she could
do whatever the fuck she want. But if the rose
was reversed a guy saying that, it would have been
a fucking ship starm.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
And you know, I believe in double standards, so it's cool.
It's just like when Nia Long went on that uh
talk show and they asked her about the ja cole
Bar's like, oh, he's not too young for me. If
that was flipped, we see Leo do it, but he's
never said it on a talk show.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Said that, Yeah, he ain't gonna do that. He ain't
gonna say that. Now we know what he doing, but
he ain't gonna say that up. No, Leo is fucking sick. Listen, man,
it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Do we have voicemails?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
You've got mail?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Hey? What that rory? Ma? Baby? D what it dude? Look,
I got a question right because I was having this
day with my friends and they told me this is
some sucking ship. So I don't know this second ship
or not? Is this sucking ship for me to pull
up on a girl, eat her box and then't get

(21:30):
nothing in return?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Now you the realist, alive word up.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I said, Wait, that's not sucking ship.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
I said that's cool, Like if that's that's all you
want from the girl, that's all you want. And they're like, nah, yo,
like fuckers you have a bitch or something like fuck
you mean fuck you mean you only want to give ahead?
And I'm like, bro, like maybe I don't. Maybe I
just felt like eating box you feel me? Like, you
know what I'm saying, that shit fun. But they told

(21:57):
me that sucking ship, so I want to is that
sucking or not? That's really all I need, you know
what I'm saying. Baltimore Nigga signing out.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
That kid's having a life now here, A real nigga
word than me and God gonna when God rise up
from the day, he really gonna reward him for the
realized ship he's doing and how he.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Contributed to society. We appreciate you, my brother, and.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
This is why I believe in double standards, especially when
they work on our benefit. It's fine if girls just
give you a head and that's it, it's done. If
you just need some and you're just sitting there hard.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
That's okay. So that's where I was gonna go with it.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Because I'm like, now you're just sitting here hard, Like.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
If I mean a girl, I'm like, I'm I'm I'm
turned on. I want to have sex now. So it's like,
how you do that and just leave?

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Like maybe he got off, that's what he got off
from it.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
That's crazy, Na, that's not saying, well, giving a girl head.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Girls have done it, you don't think man can do it.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
I've definitely watched I've heard of situation is where men
have no I've definitely.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I definitely came too quick and then pretended like I
was just going back down at the pussy.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's angel I don't know, No, Nigga, I don't want
to hear that. Okay, nigga came from you.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
No, I don't even men.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
But I'm saying I've heard of situations of it, That's
all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I'm just not rolling with that.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I think y'all think less than the trick of when
you feel like you're about to nott too quick, so
you pull out and then like your races.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Off just to get your CLOTHO homie cloth.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
No man, I can't No, no, I don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I do not believe that.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I'm letting y'all know right now.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I don't believe that men's coming in there jeans O me,
your home girl lied.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Probably, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Maybe I do believe that the man that would eat
pussy fully clothed probably could not.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I don't believe that eating pussy.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
That the nigga that's able to do that put him
in prison, because that's just a small peaking to the
ship that he can do for sure, to the society.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Didn't ring. Yeah, get him out.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Off the streets, come in in your jeets while you
eat some like, come on, man, come on, dog, we
know you. I love women.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I get horny too, because nigga ain't never been that horny,
come on yourself, fully clothed.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Come on, man, now, if you want to eat a
girl out and just go home cool.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I just don't understand it because I would be ready
to have sex, I would be aroused, I would be
ready like I just I can't see it for me.
I'm not knocking anybody that wants to put them on
their girl and just eat out and go back home.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean, a girl, why not stay? I'm saying, why
not stay? Like finished?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I don't know. Y'all do what you want to do.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
But y'all not gonna sit here and tell me niggas
are coming on themselves fully clothed, not like masturbating while
they're eating that. I just don't believe that that happened.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Gee, I think that girl a rag after you just
hat and that's that is crazy.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Do y'all think that women have done it? Do ya
think women? Have you ever seen women? Let me guess
you've seen women come from giving head right they looking
at More?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, I've never I've never now if she did, I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Okay, I don't know one thing more has never seen.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
But it's different, but it's different, but it's different when
y'all come. Then when women come, you're gonna know when
he came, Like it's gonna be a mess everywhere. Like
a woman just like oh shit, she just crazy wet
when she get up, like oh damn. Like so she
may have I don't know. I'm just saying for a
man to do it, it's just like, that's just that's
just crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
The only time I've seen it, they either had a
vibrator or they were touching themselves while giving head.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
You have to be doing something to get there.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
And if I was even pussy in corner my beef,
yeah I could probably not, but just to be chilling,
well maybe there was friction.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
How much friction?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Nah, driving up in the bed while he eating her out.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Seeing this is the way I sound crazy because but
that is absolutely insane to me. How was that even
physically possible.

Speaker 7 (26:04):
I've never just ate pussy and that was it. But
I mean you probably would probably bullshit. What You've never
just eaten pussy and that was it. Never that's never
happened to you. You've never had a moment where you
and you just ate pussy and kept eating pussy because
you couldn't get hard. You telling me that never happened
to you, Well, my dig works, Okay, all right, I'm

(26:26):
just saying, okay.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I'm not coming over me. I'm saying, I don't know
what I think.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
That's happened to every boy that has ever done drugs
or drink too much before. You've been eating pussy and
couldn't get hard, and you over there doing that awkward
jerk thing while you're eating pussy.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's happened to every man.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
And then I got there, or I just fucked with
soft dick.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
See, not as crazy, that's not crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
You're trying to nail jello to the wall.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Because if that didn't work, maybe if I get instided
the pussy, I'll get hard.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
He pushing gushers to a key hole and somehow factsybody
else crazy yo, yo, nah, I just.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Look like if you in that, in that mode of
like oral sex, there's no way I'm not aroused.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
No way.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I've definitely been like too drunk and not been able
to get hard. But she's giving me head to try
to get me hard, and it just didn't work. So
I didn't just eat pussy and then put my clothes
back on and go home.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, if you do have ed Roy road sparks right now, col.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
We have to responsible. So I'm not gonna say products,
but you got a call Shanning, Call Shayning. We can
get some road sparks to you. Don't trip or we're
gonna take care of you.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Man, we love you over here, Rory mal If I
know I'm not crazy, come on, I'll be chewed up.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
There's no yeah, yeah, you got to man, you got
to get.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
The headache with a gas station.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, no road sparks, road sparks. That's the problem. All
that other ship no road sparks. Row is a go
before before demaras.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Help you, bro. You can't spell grow without row.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Lacking some baby Brady.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh Man, Baltimore, Nigga. I don't know. I'm not gonna
say you crazy for eating a girl out leaving now.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
He wonder if he's a sucker.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh ya ya yeah, yeah, yeah, y, I mean againing
every seven seconds I.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Enjoy eating pussy. I probably wouldn't mind. Yeah it's okay.
You could be a sucker for your girl.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I'm all right, Yeah that's not I feel like if
you just if you're with your girlfriend, you just eat
it pussy.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
And that's it. Yeah, we've all done sucking ship for
our lady.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's all good, all right for your but not for
No Rando. You don't do that to No Rando.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
But then like, all right, so assuming he made her
come and that's what ended it, or did he just
stop eating pussy and then she.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Was just like nah, it could have been a little
like quick thing like, because I've seen that happen to
women's doing a.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Mouth bity it's crazy mouth by Southwest mouth mouth byself mouth.
He did a mouth boy, he did a mouth this
nigga do a mouthbos. Niggas in Baltimore will kill you eggs.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Do a mouth bo.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Nigga, eat you out and go kill it and go
to the next car. Nigga, stop being you out to
go shoot a nigga in Baltimore. Y'all voted, Yeah, y'all
are crazy down there and be more.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
No, but I've seen that happen to women before, where
men will pull up and like just you know, just
to tease you real quick and leave. Yeah, I've definitely
seen that before. That's not as crazy as y'all think
that it is.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
No, I'm saying I would probably do it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I just haven't done it. I like it, pussy. Yeah,
sometimes you gotta do that a little bit. Get out
of there, get in and get out. I'll be bad
and like you just walk into the car hard. Yeah,
it was a little awkward.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
I think your mental state has to be doing it
like as a fun thing, because if you if you too,
if your horny brain get too horny, that's when I
think you like really funk around and get like break.
But like if you doing it just to like tease
her and play around, I don't think you'll get bricklicked.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
I don't have a penis just assuming No, you have break,
no matter what the moment you smell the moment you
smell the Kuchi break. Yeah, that's like natural.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
No, No, I'm not making funny.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
That was weird to get hard when no one said
no one.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Said it was weird.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, that's the four play making out.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Like yeah, like I don't know why you but not
everybody like you.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Not everybody's like you.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
You don't got this blood pressure flowed through my body?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh man, do we have another voicemail?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Please? That was when he has to written down. He said, no,
we're good.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
We're good, We're good, Josh, let it go, let it go.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
This was all over the place, reach out as episode.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Oh man, listen, it's all good though, Man, it's all good.
Oh Man, she need a second to breathe, I.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
DJ had let's no no, uh you said what sixty
eight percent of bottle water is tabwater?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sixty five or sixty percent of bottle water is actually
just tapwater.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
I feel like that's low. I feel like ninety percent.
It's a bottle of water. It's all market and plastic.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Good bottle, good glass, like a good glass bottle with
a tint on it.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I haven't really seen many like water ads on podcasts,
but I feel like we're not ruining advertisers here. What's
your what's your top five worst waters of all time?
Dasani number one. I think that's across the board.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Doing number one. Aquafina's number two.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I think everyon could be a number two. No, if
you don't get avion in that glass bottle that only
the monitor does.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Any water and glass is fucking awful. Any water in
a glass bottle cold. You can get me to fucking
go in a white van and kidnap me.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, for sure, it's we have candy in here. The
coldness tastes tastes away.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
From every I'm good.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm sold on in a plastic bottle. I think is
number two. I actually think it could rival Desani for
how bad heavy on water n Propel. I don't even
know if Propel. My streets have taken me there.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Sipping on a Propel is wow.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
What is the Propel logo?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's just like a pn't Philly's logo.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Still guys are nasty?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, Crystal guys is Crystal guys are so whack. The
label don't even stay on until you get home. The
label foll right off in the bag from the Supermarke.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
The moment you purchase it. Yeah, water this liquid death.
That's okay. If it's cold, I guess I'll take that
over most of like the Poland Springs of the world.
Pold Spring is only great because it's one dollar and
you could just get the fuck out the store.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Pold Spring is the most accessible water.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Pold Spring is good as ship.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I don't know about that ship when you put ash
it on.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
It, Okay, I don't know about actually enjoy Poland Spring.
I'll buy Poland Spring all day, but if you go
through leave everything at warm temperature. If it goes against
like Deer Park, what's.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
The one you just said, Arrowhead?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Arrowhead, every of one of its peers and competitors, Poland
Spring is lightyears above that a room temperature.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Headwater is the water that I think they take each
night at the end of the carnival. Whoever didn't buy
the goldfish, they take that water and put it.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
The sports That's the sportsmanship of water that can.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
They take that water if whoever didn't buy that goldfish,
they take that water and put it in an Arrowhead bottle.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
So you know, we've all been like flexing for twenty
years that New York City has the best tap water.
I found out recently that we have been we have
been lying about that in the two decades.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Y'all.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
Water is terrible. That used to be like a thing
like we have the best water, better water than New
York City. We're like, we're like in the hundreds. Really,
I thought we were number one my entire life up
until two weeks ago when.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Y'all used to say that.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
I like, because up in Syracuse we have a spring
near us like over in Skinny app but we get it.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
From the Hudson up there. That's why we thought it
was the best.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Is trash.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think it's y'all.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Alabama got better water than us. I'm not jacking that.
I'm not jacking Alabama has better tapwater than.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Again, I'm jacket No way, no pipes. I feel like, y'all,
pipes is just mold.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
No way that. But that builds character. You need to
You need the minerals from the pipe. That's where like fights,
the diseases and ship you need the mineralis in the pipe. Absolutely, yo,
my whole life, my whole life. I thought New York
City had the best tap water of all time. It
was like a stat People would bring up that ship
is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Y'all are crazy. New York tap water is.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Great, terrible, It's terrible, no way terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Jersey tapwater Jersey got octane in it. Yeah, drink and
Jersey tapwater. You might as well go to the to
the quick quick checking.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Twenty ninety three. Just put the nozzle in your mind.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Shit shit burn.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Jersey tap water is crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Like the first time I took ever clear shot.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, Jersey Jersey tap water tastes like a dry cleaners. Anyway,
we're back.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, Honestly, the first time when I got to Saint
Peter's my freshman year, I started breaking out like way more.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Okay, yeah yeah, that water was like bad bad Sorry,
No character made you the man you are today?

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Nah, it didn't didn't change anything. It just made my skin.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Fuck it didn't.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I'm not a better person because of it.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
But it wasn't a trial and tribulation for your man,
your man's man because of the Jersey tap water.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's all good.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Anyways, where are we supposed to start here today? Do
we get right right into it? Let's get right into
the ships man our label mate slash maybe not label mate,
because I don't know anyone's negotiating'll be.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Out of a job soon, don't.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
See.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's want me out of one.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
That's why I don't rock with y'all because when I
be ready to go here, y'all leave.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Let go there, y'all close your ears.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I'm nah, I'm with you, all right.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I don't think it's gonna affect him the way you
think it is.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Though, No listen, all jokes aside. So we talked about uh,
Shannon sharp our. I don't know if he's any more
of our label man, but a guy that we we
respect him. No, we appreciate what Shannon is done done
in the space me as somebody who grew up watching
Shannon Shop play football, and.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Which we didn't bring up in tight Ends on the
other conversation, Yeah, which was offensive.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I apologized, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Apologies, Shannon, we didn't bring you up in the projects
had earlier, but none, none of less Shannon Shop Hall
of Fame tight End. I'm old enough to remember Shannon
Shop as a player when he first came to the league.
Well maybe not when he first came in, but while
he was in his earlier playing day.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
The first video game I had was Game Day ninety
eight where the Denvo Brockers were the best day you.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Go around Davis and I remember when it was a circle, circle,
circle circle. Shannon Shaw was the butt of jokes when
it came to his speech, being able to talk. He had,
you know, it was kind of you know, heavy, heavy,
thick country accent. Wasn't the most articulate person. And to
see where he is now in his career, being one
of the biggest voices, biggest figures in media, you know,

(36:54):
it's just a testament to the work that Shannon Sharp
has put in and after his career and playing in
the NFL, and you know, the things that he's doing
in this space, which is which is tremendous work, amazing work.
We support him, we salute him, but he's obviously coming to, uh,
you know, a point in his career where things are
a little you know, not so proud, not just not

(37:17):
a proud moment for Shannon right now, he's he's facing
allegations of you know, sexual assault. The clown lawyer. I
still think he's a clown lawyer. I don't give a fuck.
Tony Busby is representing a woman who says that Shannon
shap sexually assaulted us. So text messages have been released,
audio recordings have been released.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Pretty articulate.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, you know, I out to you. I knew what
he said then. That was very articulately when he said that.
But what does this mean for Shannon Shaw. Obviously, this
is a stain on his jacket. This is something that
you know, we didn't expect to hear come out about
Shannon Sharp, and he's been does be very clear, he's
been very adamant that this is one one thousand percent of.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Shakedown that there is nothing here. He didn't. You know,
he's not in no violation though he didn't violate any woman.
That's not who he is.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
You know, he's been he's been very vocal and very
adamant not running from that. But Shannon, you know, when
you it comes out again. And I don't know if
this is true or not, as alleged that Shannon Sharpe
offered ten million dollars And to me, when you offer
that type of money, so that things are kind of

(38:28):
quiet and don't come out and don't hit the hit
the you know, social media, don't hit the net that
says that you are trying to cover something up. You're
trying to prevent something. If you're innocent, you know, I
don't care what comes out they try to shake you down.
We don't offer no money. Obviously, jay Z just went
through that with the same lawyer. He didn't offer any money.

(38:51):
Case got dismissed, thrown out. I believe that that there's
legal action being taken against the same lawyer, Tony Busby
now as a result of that.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
So yeah, so you know, what does this mean for
Shannon Sharp? Is it going to affect his career. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I don't know if you know what is being alleged
is true. It's still very early. More details will come out.
Shannon has been very vocally he's not running from it.
He's not hiding from it. Said he's willing to put
out a sex tape if he had it. He told them,
he told, you know, Tony Busby and the you know,
alleged victim, to put out the sex tape. You know,

(39:28):
like show what it is that you want to show.
So he's not hiding from it. He's not running from it.
I don't know what that means for Shannon.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I do know that as a.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Result, he's guiding all right. I'm sorry to interrupted you.
You're giving a great breakdown of what's going on, but
you really are. I just who is guiding Shannon Sharp
right now?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Nobody?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
He is.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
He's gotten himself, all right.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
The ten million dollar shit initially was like that feels
weird because which we've said a million times, if somebody's
accusing me of anything and I didn't do that shit,
I'll get on the stand. I'm refusing, like no matter what,
I would do anything to prove that. But I also
don't know what it's like to be a one hundred
million dollar negotiation, And if ten million dollars out of
that one hundred million could get this thing that could

(40:07):
compromise this one hundred million the fuck out of here,
maybe I'd sacrifice ten million. So I get that part.
But Shannon, with this sex tape shit, I'm still on
the side that this looks weird, mainly based off the lawyer,
which I guess is a little fucked up. But I'm
just going off evidence. You saying I'll leak a consensual
sex tape does not prove the innocence of some non

(40:30):
consensual shit. Just because y'all fucked once consensually doesn't mean
that there could have been a time that way. So
even though I feel shanning on everything that he's doing,
attacking head on, I get it. Let's get Let's get
to the shits. Who would ever advise you to say
some dumb shit like that?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, this girl is how old?

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Twenty one? If I'm not mistaken. Now, they met when
she was nineteen.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
They met when she was nineteen, let's say safe assumption
they had sex when she was nineteen. Shannon Sharp is
fifty sixth fifty four I believe maybe somewhere around there.
Fifty four, Shannon, this is not a woman that you
should be involved with in any fifty six years old

(41:16):
this is not a woman that you should be involved
with at all.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Let's just put that out there.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
You're just in a way, a whole different league, way
too grown for a nineteen ye old. What does what
does a fifty fifty four when you met her? I
guess what does a fifty four year old and a
nineteen year old even talk about?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Big black ladies?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It's just you know, you you set you started off,
you know, behind the eight ball. You shouldn't you should
have had no dealings with this young young lady at all.
So I'll start there, and you know that's to me,
that's just enough of it. It's like, how does Shannon
Sharp even get to a point where he's having a
sexual relationship with a nineteen year old girl.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
We've had this conversation on the pod plenty of times
outside of the Shannon Sharp situation of from our Patreon
episodes of just having this wild age gap thing. But
let's not act like that's not a regular thing in
the United States, like in the world period.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
This is regular.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I don't really care about Shannon Sharp's like moral compass
as a human being, because I don't know him, or
caring too much.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
If you want to do that.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I think it's fucking weird, but I'm more concerned on
what the actual case would be. If it's consensual with
a nineteen year old fifty six I think it's weird
as fuck, but it's well passed any legal thing that
we could even bring up, even like the people of
the Whack one hundreds that find every state that has
a sixteen year old legal shit, which I find odd.

(42:47):
That girl was nineteen years old. He's fifty six years old.
I think it's odd and gross, and I could never
even imagine any of my relatives, male to female, that
would ever do some weirdo shit like that. But that's
not my business. I can just think you're odd. Now, legally,

(43:07):
where does that leave it? That's more of my thing.
Who needs some mentor Shannon Sharp, he's fifty six years old.
Both you and I are younger than him. Of course
he knows it's odd. We don't need to tell him
it's weird. He felt weird doing it.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
You think so.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I I think he felt weird.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I don't think you know we're doing it yet.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Think I know when he got out of it, like
you got out of his horning mind states of allowing
that girl to say those certain things, because you know,
like you said, there was responses back that weren't in
that paperwork. I'm sure once he nutted, he fell odd.
I'm sure he has three kids that some I think
are older than that girl years. I'm sure he fell out.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
We spent two years ago that they've had they've had
a relationship.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, Listen, I've been beating off for fifteen years. Sometimes
I feel weird after I'm sure he has a clear conscience.
Sometimes he goes, what the fuck am I?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I just don't. I just don't think that. You know,
it's he has children that are must You.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Don't think he looks at his kids and then looks
at his phone on certain holidays and goes, what the
fuck am I doing? It's a j We don't need
to sit here, and Monique already tore his ass up
on his own show and told him what to do. Yeah,
so I don't know if we need to sit here
and do that with Shannon.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Hitting, I'm not I'm just I'm just putting out what
it is dealing with a woman that young. Bruce, you're
three times her age.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
What did what? Where did you think this was gonna end?

Speaker 7 (44:22):
That's my thing. I don't give a fuck who you fuck.
You want to be weird, you want to be weird,
But I'm not gonna have sympathy for you because this
is what happens. This is what happens. You fucking with
a fucking teenage OnlyFans model. This is what happens. Guilty
or not guilty, this is show dumb ass got to
deal with. That's stupid as shit.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I think that it was just a lapse of judgment
for somebody who you know, for the most part, I
think is pretty intelligent, Uh, pretty classy guy. I don't
I don't see Shannon as not being a classy guy.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
But I think this.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
You know, obviously, when the cameras shut off and people
go home and they have their personal lives, I think
people are into some things that are just a little
inappropriate and then doing inappropriate things.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Sometimes this is where it leads you.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It leads you to these types of situations and these
types of circumstances where you now have to face the
public and talk about you know, your personal business in
the bedroom and behind your own closed doors, because again
the relationship was inappropriate to start with. So now we're
here and Shannon Sharper's facing a lot of heat. I

(45:24):
don't know what that means for him professionally in his career,
as as immediate personality for his businesses and his platforms
that he has grown. He is in the middle of
a huge negotiation right now with a media company. I
don't know what that means for any of that. My
guess is it is affecting it.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
It is affecting it.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
But I think it will be okay.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I really did think we'll see Granted on the side
of last episode, I'm not here to say anyone's innocent
or guilty. I want to see just do through everything.
If he did that shit, put him under the fucking
But I feel like a lot of this can we
speak candidly. I feel like in the last few years,
a lot of these accusations have really came and went,

(46:11):
and as has not affected people the way I used to.
I'm not saying what's fair what's not. I'm just speaking
real on what I've observed, these accusations don't do what
they used to do. They don't and I think in
some cases, think some case, I think it's really fucked up,
Like I don't even want to put on like a
because she's nineteen OnlyFans model like that. I'm sure that

(46:33):
happens to those girls often, But the smear campaign will be, hey,
they're an OnlyFans model, so of course she wanted it,
or like anything like that. It's an easy smear campaign,
which is is fucked up in unfair and untrue. But
to your point, there's also the side of what do
you think that girl wanted? And when she didn't get it,
she found Tony Busby. Like both of these things are true,

(46:56):
and I think the court of public opinion could never
decide that. And I don't think the court public opinion
cares that much to even sit through this whole trial. Yeah,
we're here for for headlines and that's it, and then
we'll go back to our lives. And then if Shannon
Sharp says something that's controversial or intriguing or has another
good interview, everyone's gonna go, all right, Well, I'm back

(47:17):
with Shannon. What even happened with that case? That's how
the shit goes.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Like.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I don't know it's gonna affect his money for sure,
because no matter what, when scandals happened, bullshit happens. We
know that any corporation is going to use that against
any creator. But I don't know if it's really gonna
affect his bottom line to his career as a media personality.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I mean, I would hope not. But again, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
We don't know the details of everything that is happening.
We don't know what the lawyers are ready to present,
and again we weren't in you know, Shannon Sharp's betterroom.
We don't know, nor do I want to be, nor
do I want to be, but you know, here we are,
you know, as all being a part of media. And
this obviously came across the desk and we have to
talk about it because again, this is Shannon Sharpe, one
of the biggest figures that we have.

Speaker 7 (48:05):
So if this girl is telling the truth, because I'm
out just automatically doubting that she is. If she is
telling the truth, I'm so upset that she got the
lawyer that she got, because that was your biggest mistake
that you could have done.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Okay again. Also, I'll put let's take this situation out.
That's also where it gets sucked up, because if this
girl has no resources, no nothing, even though I mean
Shannon Sharp was sending.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Her what fifty.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Crazy listen, Brandy, I'm sorry, I should we should have
given you more money for a lawyer, and she got
bred for Busby. There's a lot of girls that don't
have resources when some shit happens like that, and they'll
find the fucking bullshit ambulance chaser that says, yo, I've
represented this group of people against this case, and women

(48:49):
that have no experience in that world will be like, Okay, okay,
Antonio if that's even your real name.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, I'm still on that.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
I'm sorry, repeat myself. Buzby is not his laud Ain't
no fucking way I know who sent him.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
But yeah, I mean as much as I'm on that side,
like everything in me is saying you got Tony Buzzby.
This is some bullshit, some shakedown nonsense. But I also
don't want to put it to girls that don't have resources,
and there are only ambulance chasers that will listen to them.
Tony Buzzby being a fucking ambulance chaser. Remember that first
press release with the whole shit everyone on Twitter. Oh,

(49:26):
look at Tony Busby's resume. He's the most tried lawyer
in all of federal history and won the most cases.
So he photoshopped that. That's not true. He has no experience,
he's an ambulance chaser. But to some women, that's the
only lawyer that will speak to them. So you can't

(49:47):
really put it on people that don't have any experience,
myself included, when it comes to like legality and law shit,
Like I thank god for Brandy because she's taught me
so much in the music business with lawyershit that I
would never know if I didn't have her. Thenk God,
Brandy's an amazing person and not Tony Busby. But yeah,
sometimes that's the only lawyer that will listen to you.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Yeah, especially with stuff like this, where a lawyer often
won't take on cases like this because there's no evidence.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Like when it comes to I want to make that
very clear, this is is separate.

Speaker 7 (50:19):
When it comes to freaky shit, it's very hard to
prove that you didn't. It's very hard to prove consent
in someone else's bedroom when you weren't there, unless it
is on camera or unless there is like physical damage
from the assault. It's tough, so a lot of and
then you're going against somebody who has money. A lot
of lawyers won't take that, won't take that on.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Did you guys ever watch the Breakfast Club interview with
steven A.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Smith.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I'm actually shocked this clip has not like made its
rounds on the internet. Our listeners in Reddit and Twitter
community find this. I think Charlemagne was the one that
asked steven A Smith about having women sent to him.
Is very vocal that he's single and like he's just
focused on his work. He can't get me in a scan.
I'm not tied to nobody. I'm not cheating on nobody.

(51:07):
I do what I do when I'm not working. And
that's put him in situations where he's felt women have
been sent to him from certain people with certain agendas
to get him jammed up. In no way am I
saying this is the case right now, just bringing up
that thought because they're both in media and steven A
we've known gone through countless negotiations. We saw him get

(51:31):
a deal that he got fucked over and he's making
like eight million dollars on ESPN seven days a week.
Finally got his worth, but before that he was like, nah,
I peeped when they were sending women to me. I
could tell that this wasn't that somebody sent you to
fuck me over. This feels like you're about to yell
rape in the hotel room.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I mean, I'm just always on the side of your
moral compass and having discernment will save you from a
lot of.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Bullshit, and having discernment more than anything.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Yeah, And it's just you know, and discipline and discipline
even if you have these horny thoughts, but they're like
control them.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
But this is this is why, this is why this
is so confusing to me, because you look at somebody
like Shannon Shark, who is you know, has accomplished things
athletically that.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Not many people ever we accomplished.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That takes a certain level of you know, discipline, keep
your body in shape, you know, play at a high
level for so many years, you know, Hall of Famer.
And then, like I said, when you first came into
the league, you had, if you want to call it,
a speech impediment. He wasn't the greatest, most articulate person
when he first came in, but dedicated himself to learning

(52:42):
how to speak and learning how to articulate, and now
he's one of the.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Biggest figures in media.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
So clearly he's a guy that has discipline and is
able to focus right, is able to focus and able
to execute. And you know it was able to afford
himself a great lifestyle through his dedication to his into
his work. How do you have such a lapse in
judgment when it comes to sexually romantically?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
That's the part that i'm because that's.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Not you know, if somebody is a very clean cut,
very sharp you see my work desk area, everything is clean,
and then you go to the crib and they're a
fucking horder, you're gonna be like, this doesn't check out,
This is not the person the okay.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
I vividly remember this conversation. The year was twenty ten.
I was at Deaf Jam and I'm aware that you know,
Club Shasha is based off Kognak and he has other vices,
but an exact that was like not shot money. Another
one that I'm not gonna name that was kind of
mentoring me was speaking about another executive that was super
clean cut, super disciplined, super everything. And we were smoking

(53:50):
in the office and that executive walked by and he said,
I think he has some weird sexual devian shit. Everyone
on earth has to have a vice. If you're this
disciplanned in something, there has to be a place that
you get this ship off somewhere. And if you don't
go out, you don't do any type of drug, any
type of alcohol, that's cool. You're not even gluttony like

(54:10):
you You're ordering salads even on days that we order
and just like pizza and shit. He gotta have something.
It's gotta be some Everyone has a vice. Everyone has
to get that out in some type of way. So
I yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Stereotype of the way I view a lot of like
Trooper White. Yeah, okay, that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
You don't think someone like all right, you seen like
American Psycho. Yeah, I mean, of course, that's the extreme
version of that. But I'm not calling shin and Sharp
anything close to I want to make that very fucking clear, page.
Please don't see it that way, of course, But a
lot of the cleanest cut people are the most deviant
human beings. They don't get their shipped out with just

(54:56):
smoking weed. They don't just have a glass of fucking
wine after work or or eat a fucking pizza after work.
They find they get their shit off, and it's in
a very calculated, disciplined and nasty fucking way. American psycho,
I mean, you know, I he was ironing the fucking
body bags that he was putting the bitches.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
In like that.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Shit translates over the man's man. Now, he might have
been the first metro sexual.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Either way, man, you know, I hope, I hope that
these are just allegations against Shannon Shack. And if they're
not fucking oh oh yeah on that, that's not anybody
that sexually assault, sexually abuses anybody.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
And if she lying, fuck her, Oh she's lying, absolutely
fuck her.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
And for people who are into BDSM or if you're
planning on trying BDS and with a partner, this may
seem extreme now, but write some shit out, get some
shit in writing, get safe words out and writing, get
all of this down so that can't nobody jim you up.
If you're doing brat fetishes or things where someone's in

(56:03):
control of you or you're in control of somebody, you
don't want somebody coming back and saying, oh, you forced
yourself on me when you thought that that was the
type of play that y'all were into sexually. There are
articles you can read about how to handle that stuff legally,
but please, please please protect yourself. Like I'm all for
being freaked out. Y'all know I rarely kink shame, but
you gotta be fucking careful because if you gotta know

(56:26):
when somebody is antagonizing you or when somebody really wants
you to force themselves on you like you have to,
you got to know all of that stuff. Like, all
of that is very important. So being freaked out is cool.
I'm always being freaked out, but please please set some
boundaries and if you if you don't know that person
like that, get that shit in writing, especially if you
make me.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Make part of the role play a mediator with a contract.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah yeah, no. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
If me and Roy shit downe and they start throwing
a hundred million dollars, I think you across the table.
I'm gonna be it's gonna be casting couch on my
phone for every good line interact with give what's your name?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Age?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
No, for we're getting all out on video. I'm not
fucking it one hundred million. I'm not fucking up that
bag for no pussy. Ain't no pussy that good in
the world. Shannon is fucking tripping if he did that.
Nineteen frock, What are you doing? How did y'all meet?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Who are you thinking that?

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Tell me?

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Where do you where? Internet nigga?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Shannon shap Maine supposed to be meeting no women on
the internet.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
Shannon Sharp is fifty because we've seen all that girl
that's gonna let you show her and say, put this
big black baby in me.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
Where are you gonna meet Sharonish shop?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
It's worth you think that Shannon Sharp can't meet a
grown woman that will let him freak out, freak them.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Out, grown woman.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
The clip just happened with Moniqu where Monique says you
need to lead them young girls alone.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
He like, why money, That's what I'm saying. He's fucking tripping,
But young girls cool. I'm not talking about as young
as this girl though.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Nineteen. If she was twenty eight, twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
All right, you know what I mean, Like, get your
shit off nineteen Come on, man, she's one year removed
from high school.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
You bugging the fuck not even the freaks you want,
you bugging the fuck out. She ain't even been freaking
long enough to be freaky.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah, I got sneakers older than that. I got the
original ninety.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Yeah like it.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
My library matches is older than her. Like, what are
we talking about? Like, you really met this girl?

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Get clear, she's twenty one now, but they're saying that
he met her when she man, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Hill to y'all. I got hats twenty one years old.
But what are we talking about here?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Man, Like Shannon Sharpe is he's out of He's all
the way out of pocket with this. This is crazy
and not saying you can't date younger girls, but nineteen
twenty twenty one, you playing yourself. You absolutely playing yourself
doing that at fifty four years old.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
It's bad bitches. That's thirty and freaky you. I don't
understand bad bitches. That's the Barn's was at her forties.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I just heard this.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
This is forty five, like with grandkids.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
What are we talking about here?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
We don't know if she's a freak.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
I mean, but just beauty going out yeah and looking good, and.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
That's year old. I just said Tracy ellis ross at
this time for a younger man.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
Neil Long, is she still available? Who you and NW
me and yeah, set it up? Fuck, don't just say it?

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Oh, let me just text her because me and the
along texted all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Like yeah, but like we're saying, if I'm sharing in
that's who line, I'm blowing up. That would have been
the only thing that came out of me. They'd be like, Yo,
this nigga been the Neil Long dims.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Going crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Like your mall was with some nineteen year old and said,
I'm a choky bitch like that ain't gonna never happen.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Shannon Sharp is bugging for this. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I the alleged rape.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
If I'm not mistaken, Josh correct me if I'm wrong.
Is that we're having penis to vaginas put it in.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Her ass even though hey people, if you love that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Of vagina to try to be politically correct and then
when put it in her ass.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Yeah, but two beeps.

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
Hey for for young men that are coming up out here,
because there are some young men that listen to our podcast,
and I think it's very important for them to be
informed that is rape.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
That is rape.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
You should not try to put it in a girl's ass.
If that was not told to be done already, that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Is rape, period, No matter if you were having penis
to vagina sex, that is rape.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
The moment she says to know that is rape. Can
y'all not laugh for me?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I'm you did it in the political way that I
was happy you were doing it. And he's like, yeah,
I just put it in a butt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Take the penis and enter the rectum like you didn't
even go that roule. He was like, yeah, just don't
put in her ass. Yeah, no, I agree, though you
should not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I can we can we keep it real?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Can we keep it real?

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
For like just the last like thirty seconds of this,
Just keep it real? Fridays, Shinnon fucking did that. God,
Shanna did that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Ship Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
He got a little too your me. He went a
little too far. They was having wild sex, you know
what I'm saying. And he probably was like his thumb
was in there. Yeah, he probably was like he thought
she wanted it, you know what I mean? And you
know he heard her, you know what I'm saying. She
two days later, she was still so she's like, Nah,
this nigure gotta pay for this. I believe that Shanna
just went a little too far. I believe I believe

(01:01:23):
he actually did put it in her butt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
She did.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
She didn't want it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
What I'm saying, Like, I don't know if I'm not
gonna say he held it down and made her take it.
He probably just tried to get it in there real quick,
and she probably be like nah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
But if her text message is correct, I mean, because
clearly in text she doesn't hold anything back. If she
said no when he tried to put in her butt, like,
then you just go back to the vagina. Oh, she
also happened any potential sex and if she not with it,
you just go back to the vagina. M you don't
keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Horses, don't stop the going.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Cut that what she.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Played with the broncos I beg.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
It, not put it in my butt.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
Also, if you have sex with somebody without putting a
condo mine, they telling you to put a condo mind,
you don't put a cond of mind.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Also rape, that's what I want. Everything that's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
So she said, I beg you to put a condo
mind and not put it in my ass and you
didn't listen. I don't care about yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
But also also but all right, I hear you. And
this is why sexting is a problem, because if you're
ever sext with somebody and they not that person. Mm hmm.
So if you're telling me to put a big black
baby in me and then I show up with no condom,
not victim blaming because that no point does that mean
I'm entitled to fuck you without a condom. I'm just

(01:02:43):
saying you may confuse people when they show up. See,
I'm gonna got all right. I can see Molly, you're
trying to smile. I think sex thing should stop because
I think people just begetting it if it's somebody you've
been fucking, yeah, because we can for somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Want to fucking her, he've been fucking her.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
All right, Well, let's be truthful in our sex thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
All I know is when whenever a girl texts you,
I don't know how to process this, you in trouble.
Whenever a girl say I don't know how to process this,
it's like, oh shit, she gread to find somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
To help process.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
What's funny is that stressed for me process due to
our due process. Mister Shannon Shaw, we are calling you
to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I actually just felt blessed because I felt that nervous
ship when you just said I need to process this.
When I didn't take the chicken out of the freezer.
Man to me that terrified. I can only imagine with
did I accidentally put it on your butt?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Oh my god, that's what That's what Shannon should have did.
He should have wrapped it up. Josh is doing this
little thing he likes to do. Shannon, you should have
wrapped it up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
How do we how do we how do we transition
into our guests that is about to be here? Well
should be a cold cut, like how do we get
the energy into I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Mean, well, the good thing about our guest that's coming
on is he he is a he's a great, great talent,
great great singer, great songwriter, and he's coming by to
have a great conversation with us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
So we can get right into that and have some fun.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
But again, Shannon, prayers to you, Prayers to the alleged victim. Hopefully,
you know, everybody is on the right side of history
here and everybody's you know, they will come in court
and do process like Damara said, we will figure out
more about what happened and what didn't happen. So, you know,
hate to see Shannon go through this, But discernment, discipline,

(01:04:42):
moral morals, moral compass, weirdes that lie sex contracts, sex contracts.
If if you go, you know, somebody is as famous
and as a big a figure as Shannon Sharp is,
that might be a necessity. He might have to start
doing that as well. Anything to protect yourself and to
keep you away from things like this,
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