Best of Rory & Mal: Week of 8/25

This week on New Rory & Mal, Mal explains why he has never asked Drake to come on the pod, why we assume Rihanna is done dropping music forever, we debate who is more recognizable in public - Taylor Swift or Beyonce, and we kick it with The Kid Mero about the podcasting industry and tell a few Bronx tales #volume

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I can be objective and understand why Drake would want
to avoid hip hop media or avoid any real conversation
until the time is right of when the album comes out,
and he does want to address everything. But you know,
perception is still a thing which I think Drake still
cares about. Yeah, I don't want to hear it. I mean,
I liked him and Bobby on the first interview, but.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
For what who would like to hear him with us?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
And they're just going to flip this to be like
I'm salty anyone that if Drake went to Drink Champs tomorrow,
I'd be a static.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
If Drake went to Hot ninety seven tomorrow, ILL be
a stack. Drake went to Charlotage tomorrow, I'd be a static.
If Drake's sat with Rob Markman, I'd be a static.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Like but Bobby also of the United Static.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
He doesn't want to Drake Rob mar No.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm just trying to let you guys know. It's not
a salty thing where I'm like mad that Drake is.
I'm not the part like if Drake won't sit with me, yo,
like then fuck him the way they tried to paint
Elliott when Elliott had pointed out, like, you're not sitting
with anyone from the culture, and they took that as
your salty that he won't sit with you, when Elliott
just said somebody of the culture. I'm just saying, I

(01:13):
want the Drake interview that answers the questions that I
have as a fan at the moment. I'm sure this,
Bobby Shou'll be funny. Their first interview was fucking hilarious.
I've watched it more than once. It's very funny. I
just don't don't really care at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I mean, if you, no matter who you want Drake
to sit with, once he sits with them, people gonna say, oh,
they didn't ask him this, if he didn't talk about that,
he didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
And even if he does, even if they.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Ask all the questions that we all want to hear
answers to, however Drake answers it, people gonna feel a
way about that.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
So it's gonna be think pieces about his answers.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Somebody's gonna be perp.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
About his answers, and it dreams about how come he
didn't answer this.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's like, everybody, just shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Somebody perfect right now, Angie Martinez. Angie creates a very
warm environment, does not avoid questions because Angie will ask
you that shit, but she will do it in such
an amazing way. That's why she's so good. That's why
she's a legend. It'll almost feel like it's a soft question,
but she's really asking that shit. She would be a

(02:14):
perfect person.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, but then if he goes to sit with Angie,
know what they'll say, Oh, why he didn't see with
black Boy Max, Why he didn't go sit with this person,
Why he didn't go to Charlomagne?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Why?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I thinks now, just want him to sit with somebody
that is going to ask. I'm not saying like straight hardball,
fucking knock it out the park, Yo, tell me how
you found out if you think Whitney was abused. I'm
just saying, Bobby, and it'll be like a curb episode,

(02:45):
which is fine. But I think fans want to hear
from Drake now. Now. I think the goalpost moves a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Oh with him, it moves every every album.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I very much enjoyed the conversation with Sizza and Kendrick.
But I holds Kendrick to the same thing. I want
Kendrick just sit with somebody. Not that he has to,
but yeah, that's his A conversation was great and I
get that was GQ.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right, bizarre Harper Harper Was it Harper Harper or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I thought it was a really cool conversation between two
incredible minds. But I also I would love Kendricks like
I loved Nodska sat with him.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Talk to Rob Mark now, Kendrick, Kendrick need to get
about you need to get up. I'll just see le
Kendrick sit right there. Let me talk to Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I would love that. I think that'd be Let.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Me talk to Kendrick. I got I got some questions
for Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I think that would be great.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I'm gonna ask you.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Rob ain't gonna ask because me and Kendrick, you know,
I'm saying like, it's just it's just different coming from
my face than Rob's face.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
First of all, I have told you me and Kendrick
a probably the same complexion. This is a little different
if I ask.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Him, which I want the world to know and appreciate
you for this I've told you off can if you
if Drake wants to do an interview with you, that's like,
I won't feel a way. I don't need to go.
I don't need to be there. I don't need to
produce anything like go do that. And you have said which.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I love you me by myself.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, yeah, And you said no I would want which
is cool. I'm saying I was leaving us out of it.
I want Drake to sit with you. I would want
Kendrick to sit with you.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't also think people would be surprised. I think
you would ask Drake real questions. I don't think it
would be what the internet has painted you as where
it would just be getting off Drake quote unquote talking points.
I think you'd ask him real shit. And I think
it'd be a comfortable environment. And if he wouldn't want
me there, I wouldn't feel no fucking way. Well, I

(04:42):
just bring me back some Timptons. And you know, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
No, I don't think it's something not wanting you to.
I just, you know, I just laugh at certain shit
that I read online sometimes, like.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Because I've never been honest. Jewelry I've never thought about
sitting and talking to Drake on camera. It's never once
crossed my mind. Why is that Because I mean our
conversation and our exchanges are like that of me and
any of my other homeboys, where it's like I never
thought about having my homeboy in front of a camera,

(05:17):
ask him the shit that we talk about. So I
get Drake is who he is, but I don't look
at it through that lens or look at it with
that mindset. It's like we speak, we laugh about shit,
we talk about shit. He's you know, trusted me with
some of his music and some of you know, personal
shit he's going through. But I think it's that because
he knows that I'm not thinking. I'm not thinking interview.

(05:39):
I don't If Drake never gives me sits down on
the camera, I wouldn't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Oh not.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
But I know that part right, But people don't say
so I'm saying for people that don't know that. So
I've never thought about, oh damn, I hope he comes sitting.
That's never once crossed my mind.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
So when you say, if you have a real relationship
and that's why they think you're doing it to leverage
an interview, which I.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Know, which is fucking crazy, but that's cool.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
They could think that. But what I'm saying is, I
don't if you and me and you didn't have a
podcast together and you're putting out dope albums and this,
that and thirty you had gone through some shit, you
my guy, I wouldn't be thinking, like, damn, I hope
Rory one day wants to come and sit on camera
and we could.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Have this come That shit doesn't even cross my mind.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
With a real friendship. There's an artist that But now,
if you sell you, I got some shit.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I want to get off more and I want to
get it off with you, plus set up the camera's pause.
All right, cool, But I'm not in my mind that
doesn't even you know. So when I see people say, oh,
he didn't he gotta get mall in it, why why?
Like I don't because because truthfully, truthfully, the things that
we talk about I wouldn't even talk about on camera.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I would never ask him that on camera.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
You get what I'm saying, because I just don't think
that people are even worth the answer.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Okay, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Because it's like, okay, even if he says even if
we get Drake.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
We get the let's paint the scenario form, we get
the drink interview.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Gosh, we asked every question that's online, everybody staying around
for the week. I don't whatever Drake said, bring the wherever,
I wouldn't give a fuck wed Let's do it, even.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
If he's in New York. Let's fly to Throng.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
There's things that we've spoken about that I would never
ask on care.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Of course, but I still think there's like basic ship
that Bobby's not gonna ask, or it'll be pitched as
like a sarcasm. She'll be like, but she's like, who's
this Kendrick cut?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
But even even if she does that right, even if
she asks the hard hitting questions, even if.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
She gets to like Bobby asking her, I'm just saying
we have a pivot. She'd go from that that human
ship to fucking Barbara.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Don't know that.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
We don't know work done. I don't know if she
got working on. So you're putting out I don't know
about that. What I'm saying is money. It is certain
ship that I would never ask. I just would not ask,
Like it's just I'm just not I'm.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Not, But okay, that's that serious to me.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I guess my point is the stuff that would be
fine to ask, I think he would ask, and that's
the stuff that people want to hear, the stuff that
you know and you know only just y'all conversations. I
don't even think that's the stuff people would even want.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Story even in that, you know why, it doesn't matter
because even if he answers the question, you can ask
whatever question, it's.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Gonna be tough satisfying.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
It's not gonna satisfy in me fucking body, no matter
what he says, no matter what he does, no matter
what album he puts out, people already have in mind
that don't like Drake and that don't want cool. It
doesn't matter what he says. So when people get all
worked up about him announcing who he's sitting down talking to,
I'm just laughing because I'm like, no matter who he

(08:39):
talks to, people are still gonna feel a way about it.
So that's why I'm just like, yo, I don't even
think like that. Like, my thing is that I want
great music, and I want people to be happy in
their lives and mother raise their families. That's I don't
care if he sits down or she sits down with what.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't care. I I really that ship does not
cross my mind at all. I don't care about it.
Like that.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
What if Drake asked you to do Bobby's second episode
in the event that he is uh invested into this
new venture.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Like me and Bobby sit down.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I want to want to be the next guess like
how she went to like Drake and then Mark Cuban,
it'd be like Drake and then mall.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Oh I'm kicking with Bobby. Yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I probably would, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean, yeah, she seemed like it seems like a
cool like a cool conversation, like you know, I mean
like what's the what's the pushback there?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Like I don't really care that.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, Like I'm like, okay, call.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Me a culture vulture. I did. I've definitely went on
rants about Bobby. I just don't really care that much.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'm about it.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
In the beginning, it was a little it was just
a little weird.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I thought, what was weird? Like she was a plant?
Like where did she?

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, it was more so that and like, uh, where
her like the specific type of acts in the beginning
that her team was focused on and then she branched
out and then had to come back to hip hop
because that the real reaction with that dry humor stuff
came because she was coming from outside of the culture.
When she would do it with you know, whether it

(10:13):
be Bobby Lee or Mark Cuban or other people, she
couldn't lean on that because you weren't getting the same
reaction either the comedian was carrying it or Mark Cuban
was just answering like he wouldn't any interview, which just
wasn't interesting the way it was when Drake is playing
Rack City Bitch and she's like, I don't know who
this is, or she's doing an awful bit. I forgot

(10:34):
Shorty's name of I'm a musician, I'm a magician, which
which I don't eve understand why'll found that like that
was such a bad stage bit. So yeah, I've definitely
had some pushback. But what I do with Bobby Jennery, yeah,
I don't like, I don't care that much.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I just don't know when people get so worked up
about these things. I just don't know who they be wanting.
People like who do y'all y'all like you can't sit
and talk with everybody, like no artists can sit and
talk with everybody. So when people get upset, oh he's
not talking nobody from the culture.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
He's not talking.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
He sat and talked with one of his culture's yachty.
They had a conversation and they kicked it out.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That was prete beef though.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, okay, so now post beef, they want who do
they want? Know?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think that's everyone's point that Drake was very much
talking to everybody in the culture pre beef, and now
that that happens, it's only been streamers that are not
of not even just hip hop, just not music period.
So it appears like you're avoiding any type of question
that would be asked, which, by the way, I'm fine

(11:38):
with at the moment, because I think there's a time
and place when you can address those things, and I
think it should come with the album. If he wants
to just fucking kick it with streamers now and just
make a little potshot jokes every now and then, cool,
But at some point I think he needs to sit
down with somebody.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think he does, and I think he will, And
now I also don't feel I also don't understan at
some point.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Also, I'm with you. I also I'm with you on
that as well.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
But I just don't understand how people don't see the
side of it where somebody like Drake and what he,
you know, is currently dealing with and going through, what
he went through and what he had to sit back
and watch people support and amplify. And I don't understand
how people don't see how he's turned off and like,

(12:26):
I'm never fucking with them again. I'll never kick it
with them again. I'll never go to that radio station again.
I'll never sit down. How do people not see that?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh? So, see the thing is people are taking it.
Oh it's this hip hop, it's just raps entertainment.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Cool, But you're not the person standing there that has
to watch people support a message about you that again
is the most egregious, most disgusting thing they could ever
put on them in, especially a father. How do people
not factor that in? Like, maybe he's never going to
Hot ninety seven again. Oh, maybe he's never fifteen years ago.

(13:04):
I was just so, I was just bringing in other
but I'm saying, why do people not why do people
feel like he should just get over it and just
move on? And just sit down with everybody and talk that.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Why do think that I just said it just one No,
I'm just I'm like.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Why do people people don't factor.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
That you want to have from them, Because because when
you get somebody that is of that.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Why do you want to hear from him so he
can answer questions? People are like, Nah, he's lying.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
He ain't.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, that's not how you feel. You know he's lying.
Now you know, why are you suing? Then he's suing
the labels you a rat, you a snitch?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
What? What the fuck are we talking about here?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
And obviously I'm not saying Kendrick hasn't done little Easter
egg stuff like the super Bowl promo or anything. But
for the most part, he stays quiet and off social media,
where as Drake with the Iceman episodes, there's a bunch
of things still regarding the beef Instagram, He's talking about
it a lot, he says stuff on stage certain times,
he's he's wearing certain outfits that address it. That's where

(13:59):
I think people want more from him. It's like, all right,
if you're going to keep constantly reminding us every day
about this, plus all the lawsuit stuff that goes out
every day. People want to hear from Drake. I don't
think it's crazy for fans to want to hear from
him when he also constantly, in his own way, brings
it up as well. Whereas Kendrick not to say he's
quiet all the time, he finds different ways to go
about it, less energy over there because he's kind of

(14:22):
to himself, whereas Drake is forward facing with it, even
when he's talking to the streamers about gamble and I'll
throw in little shots like no.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
The difference is Drake is the biggest artist in the world.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And constantly addressing it.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, should he not? No, I think he should.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm just believe answering why people would want to hear
from Drake.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
They're going to always want to hear from the biggest
artists in the world.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Sure, but specifically that's why the rap Radar interview was
so held it Outside of beat Out and Elliott doing
a great job in that interview and asking every question
we wanted to hear, there was a lot going on
in Drake's life at that time, whether it be his kid,
whether it be the Meek millshit, whether it be the
pusha T shit, Like a lot was going on where
we want to hear from the biggest artist in the world,

(15:04):
and this is the first biggest artist in the world
that we've had access to. You can't name another artist
at Drake's level that we've ever had access to the
way we have access to him. No other a lister
of that magnitude has been on social media the same way,
the same way. Be outside, like that's where things are
a bit different. Like even shit with Madonna, who was

(15:25):
kind of outside like that, she was still like you
still question you still didn't know what was going on,
Like you didn't know she was dating Hasten Jack. If
she had Instagram, maybe you would be like you, I
have questions, Yeah, why are you walking out with Haitian Jack?
Why are you on Live with Haitian Jack?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Things would be different. But yeah, he's forward facing. He's
the most forward facing star we've ever had in music.
I asked a question to you, so people once they
get a taste of that, now you got to live
in this world. No you don't, I'm saying from a
fan perspective.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, well, fans got to understand that the artist is
not doesn't have to move when you say move and
do what you say, doing.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Skip off well, of course, and of course Callin ain't
doing no part.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I think this will be the first run because things
are a bit different for call even that he would
have to go on a proper press run different because
I think him as the promotional machine isn't what it
was before because he's pulled back a bit, Like during
the Vine days and was it Vine that he got
super popular on. It was before TikTok, snapchat, snapchat, like

(16:25):
he could go on Allen he could do, which he
probably still can, but he was like he was himself
the entity he didn't need to like. The press run
was happy to have him, not the other way around.
He's pulled back from a lot of that stuff. So
I think he needs to go back to the press,
I mean, which is fine.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I mean, I think cal It is in a very.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Obviously you know, we we fuck with Calub, but I
think this may be like to what you're saying, I
think he's in a very different space now though.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean I felt since Father of Asad, which I
thought was a really really good album, that it's kind
of been wishy washy, like there's joints, but they're not
as good as the previous Kalid projects. And he's been fine,
Like maybe he doesn't hit number one because of a
Tyler album, but he still has like joints. I've seen

(17:14):
Kaled fail with two albums by Kalid standards, not by
I could dream to do the numbers that Khaled does.
But and he's fine, Like he still comes back. People
are still going to listen to a Kalid album. He's
still going to get all the A list artists.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I think so? I think I think that he doesn't
have well yeah, I mean he kind of went out
I want to live there. But if you look even then,
has Drake given anyone more music besides maybe Ross And
a lot of those records are Kalid records.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Like yeah, But I mean when I say he's in
a different like he doesn't have the two Drake records
that he probably was banking on.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I mean, he got one of the most iconic jay
Z verses of the last fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
I don't think jay Z will give him on another verse.
I think I think that was jays. I think did
was Jay's Like you got to think about it. Jay
performed that record at the Grammys. Outside of like the
whole verse like Crypto Arena, like you know what I mean,
Like he really gave Khaled like a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I didn't like that they put Friday at the kids
table with John Legend.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah, but I mean to the point of not having
Drake records that you obviously would banking on.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't think he'll have another jay Z Verse.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Here's the thing though, I didn't think on God did
he would get a jay z Verse? And he got
a four minute jay z Verse. If I'll admit when
I'm wrong, and I probably said it on the podcast,
ain't the way he get another jay Z Like. I
just didn't feel like the timing was there or Kaled
was even focusing on music like that at that point.
And then he got one of the greatest Hove guest
features ever, which is.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Why I think he won't get another one. I think
that was Jay's like.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
But Jay will do things. Jay will give versus to
his investments, and that's why you get to Beyonce and
jay Z Records on two different Kalid projects, one with
the future like he's invested in calit he manages Kaled.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
So yeah, but I still don't again, what an artist
like Jay who's obviously a legacy artist at this point, Like,
I just don't know what he does after a record
or verse like God did, like now what we're gonna
give it was another I got the Keys Like you
don't really, but to me, it just feels like this
is my I'm bowing out, like I'm done, you know

(19:20):
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
What else? What else? What other type of song could
Kalin and or Jay make for Cali? Do you know
what I mean? I just don't understand where you go
from there.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't think he should pivot to the younger, younger audience.
I think throwing them in the mix a little bits whatever.
But Kali's real connections where he can have moments is
when he gets legacy acts ie getting a Jay Z
verse to be the intro on his album Last Time.
That was the moment I mean Rihanna, technically, I guess

(19:49):
was legacy when Wild Thoughts came out. But having moments
like that, having Alicia Keys on your project, having like
all these crazy A list names that don't usually do
shit will be like, all right, I'll give my verse
for the year or my record for the year to Calid.
I don't know if the younger generation gives a fuck
about that. But I also don't know if legacy acts
are running to do that anymore either. Like Rihanna, it

(20:12):
took us a Smurfs movie that she was fucking heavily
involved in to get a record out of that. I
don't know if she's doing a album. I mean, do
you think she would get on it.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
I don't think Rihanna is making music because Rihanna realizes
or feels like it's just not worth her time. The
music industry is it's a dying thing, Like what is
the music industry? You see all these artists from years ago, Rory,
we've seen everybody selling their catalog Yeah, and we didn't
know why why people selling their entire catalogs for because
it's like if I can give this much money for
this music. Now with the way with the way streaming

(20:43):
is affecting you know things, and how I made AI.
I think artists just realized, like this thing that we get,
we came in on with this, with this thing called
you know, the music industry is changing. H I don't
think that somebody like Rihanna, obviously she doesn't need the money.
So it's like it it comes to thing. Is she inspired?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yes, that's why I think it's it comes down.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
So why is she not inspired because of all the
bullshit that surrounds it, the way people move on from
music so fast now, it's like you could put out
a you could put out a classic album right now
and people will be done with it in a month.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
So it's like when the artists that you know, like.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
A legacy artist, Rihanna, jay Z, whoever else the legacy
artists are, you can see why they would not be
inspired to put out new things if they're making so
much money in other areas. Rihanna is, you know, on
top of the beauty world right now, billion dollar industry.
Like she doesn't music to her, it has to either
inspire just to be inspired or just at a point

(21:50):
where she's just like totally in love with the sound
that she found in the studio and you know, like
the things that have come together as far as the songs.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
But to just be like Rihanna, give us an album.
She's not doing that.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Like an artist like that is not doing it because
they feel like, yo, it's not it's not what y'all think.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
It is.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
It's consumers us on the outside where we know a
little bit more about the industry, but the average consumer
doesn't realize the business.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
The music business is not what it once was.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
But that was the beauty of the Kalid album or
the Kalid single. I e a Hove like, I have
no interest in putting out an album this year, but
there's plenty of things I do want to say that
I don't address unless I'm putting music out. Put album no.
But I'm saying in Rihanna's only because only want to
be inspired by one record, or you could have one

(22:39):
record on your hard drive that you love, and it's like,
I have to wait to put this out because it
needs to be surrounded by something. But that was the
genius of the Kalid project. Like even the jay Z
Beyonce Shining record, which I think is incredible, It's one
of my favorite jay Z and Beyonce collapsed. I don't
think they would have ever put that out had it
not been around something specific.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Right, it has to make sense.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
We got beyond rapping with Future and Hove on top off, Like,
that's not coming out unless Beyonce is doing something or
jay Z is doing something right, Khalid gives those opportunities.
I just don't know if anyone's like running to care
for that in the current climate, which is not a
not to calid it's a not to the climate. But
I mean, Rihanna putting out that smurf thing, I don't

(23:19):
think she's inspired her. I think she would have put
music out because again, she doesn't need the money, she
doesn't have to march to anyone's drums or the fuck
she wants to whatever she wants. She wants to put
out fucking Celtic reggae, she could do it because it's Rihanna. Yeah,
I feel like she would do that with a Kalid
album if that was a thing, that if those moments
mattered anymore. I just don't know if moments are a

(23:41):
thing in the music industry anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
What all the moments?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Uh, everything outside of the music is the moment?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Is it just us seeing like artists names featured together
on the song that we never thought like, okay, we
never thought we would see these two work together, Like
that's a moment. Okay, we got to hear what that's about,
what they did. But again, even with that, once you
hit the record, it's like we just move on. The consumers,
the average we just move on from things so fast

(24:11):
now things don't sit with us.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Like.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
That's why back to what I was saying, I don't
really care if Jay puts out another album because I
know what's gonna happen. The people that grew up with
Ja and that love Jay and hold them to high regard,
we're gonna love it. But there's a whole new generation
now and people like that have platforms and spaces and
they don't care about Jay like that, Like they don't
hold them to that regard like we do. Like Cardy

(24:35):
just did the sample the record. Imagine they players that
song started charting again, that's the first time some people
ever even heard that Jay record.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, but again with someone like a Rihanna or Ja,
why would their mind move to the younger generation? Why
why would they even care about that?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
I mean, not that they don't care, but to an extent,
you have to care about the younger general because it's
a large part of the consumers. It's a large part
of the people that are, you know, influencing the sound
and the new trends and things that are going on.
Even the slang, the way people talk, the way people dress.
It's always gonna lean a little younger. That's just how

(25:16):
it's always been. So you have to kind of be
in tune with what the new generation is kind of
doing and what they're into now. Not that you have
to care. I don't like Jay and Rihalnity. These people
are you know, life is set forever for these people.
But I'm just saying, if you're gonna put your art
into this space, into the consumer space, you have to
look at who's consuming it. And a large part of

(25:38):
the consumer base is the younger audience.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
But I would say Taylor Swipt writes better melodies than
Maria Scientists.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Okay, you would like bump tailors before Marias.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
What do you mean about bump.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Like bump like play like in a car?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Oh? Okay, because Mariah first on a lot of those.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
If I give Rory's carr, he got Taylor Swift playing,
we're gonna have to have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
What's up, fan?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I probably not bad Blood in the before. Okay, Now,
we don't like bad Blood, No, No, you know, I
like Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I'm just saying, if I get in.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's a that's a in the fucking act legend you
could throw on bad Blood for sure, nobody that's knocking
with the twelve and that's knocking for.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Swift for the accurate that has that has never happened.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
On my same playlist with Cougie Raps.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Playing like Yo, what's up? We all like, what's the vibe?
Like what you're going through in your car? If you
go from Kolgie Wrap to Tailor Swift.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I actually feel like I should get more into Taylor Swift.
I don't like Boycott. I'm not an anti tailor person.
I just haven't taken the time to like get into
her catalog. I'm sure I probably like it because I
love pop music.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I like Taylor Swift, but I mean, I gotta be
I can't be at that. I gotta be doing something
like I gotta be in Target or something like that.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I got. You know, you have to be waiting in line.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Taller trees. I gotta because she helps you. Taylor helps
you remember that you need pay per towels.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Like when you go to Target and you pushing the
car and you're walking around like Tailor's She's gonna say something.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
We'd be like pay per towels.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, you gotta go get the paper thinking about your
ex and.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, that's why I like Taylor. She helps you get
your crib together, get your home together.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Speaking of getting home together, congratulations to Taylors with yes
Travis Kelsey announcing their engagement. I think that that was big,
great happy news over the week.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
So you didn't think I was happy for them?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Man, they look like they're happy, like they enjoy each other,
look like they're having a great time and and doing
life together.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
We got to we have to stop this.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Congrats to them, like they're having a really good time
together and really enjoying each other.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
We honestly, we need to stop lying. Myself included on
this podcast. As far as you were not happy.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
For them, I was. I was happy for Travis.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
You would like during this week when he was just
quiet by yourself, he was like you felt a sense
of joy?

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yes, they were. That was beautiful news. I was so
happy you scrolled past it when and that just kept
going on.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
I was so happy for Travis. I was so happy
for them. I was like, you know what good for them? Man,
like make it official, get married, have beautiful children, and
enjoy life.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I truly don't think I've ever been happy for a
couple that I didn't know really by like the actual
like like I felt a sense of joy when two
people found love unless I knew them. Okay, Like this
is good, I mean good for them.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, but that's what I said. That so great, it's
great for them.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Like I think I think Travis's mom is happy. I
wouldn't yet, I wouldn't say I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, you're getting married. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah exactly, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
But you don't do that.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Don't do that because if Mariah Thug get married tomorrow,
you gonna come in here crying.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
So don't do that because.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You did cry when she left the stage when Thug
got out, and she was.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Like, yeah, yo cry because she cried. She was crying
and I was crying. It was an emotional stadium. Yeah,
it was emotional stadium. Her boyfriend had been locked up.
She found I know right then at that moment that
day that he was getting out, like she was crying.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
It was emotional.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
I was very happy for her, Yes, at.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
That moment, an emotion of some things that you could
be happy for if she if she announces that she
got married.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
Oh I hope you like I don't, Okay, So when
I say, like genuinely happy, like if I scroll past
some shit like I'm thinking, like when I put my
phone down, I'm still in a good mood when I like,
oh my god, I'm really happy for them. Like that
changed the trajectory of my day. I don't give a
funk on nobody else getting married.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I ain't no ring on my finger, And with that attitude,
it won't be.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Because I'm not happy.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
For strangers exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
See, you receive what you give reciprocity into the universe,
right exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
You gotta be happy for others so that others can
be happy.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
So you shouldn't, you know, work on yourself, set your
boundaries and find your soulmate. You should just like clap
for celebrities when they get engaged. That so then that
way your so mate will then find you.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
What was kind of like because we.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Saw the start of this, we followed it, we're kind
of like, okay, cool and thought it was a joke. Yeah,
we thought it was a a PR stunt in all
of these things, which he might still be, but.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You know it's okay.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I will say, Okay, it did validate podcasting. Why so
I'm happy about that because he joking wasn't. This whole
thing started when he was talking with his brother like
about Taylor, like, nah, she's she's cute.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Didn't that start the whole thing? He was on a podcast.
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Because he had four touchdowns that week he talks about
it on a podcasting that legitimately started the rumor conversation.
And then they ended up meeting because it became a
running joke on the internet and then love was found.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
So we put them together.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, I think anything podcasts related, we are attached to
as a genre and a culture and as a family.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
It's a culture family. See, family is getting engaged. They
got engaged in marriage.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Fan.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Now if Travis stops podcasting after he gets married, then
he's a culture culture.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, then he's out of here. Then we kicked that.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, I can't like you just used us to go
find love with like I guess some some people like
her some people and then you just you left left
us all hanging. If the entire podcast community is not
invited to the wedding, then I do feel some type
of way. I feel like that's we're old that at least,
like you think Travis and them got the same CPM.

(31:11):
If we didn't put the legwork in first, Like do
they even does Taylor even hear their podcast without us?
That's where I'm at with this.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Whole shit hit.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Where do you How do you plan a Taylor Swift wedding?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
It's a big wedding.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was talking to the last time. How they even
do Thanksgiving? I would be so scared in if I
was Travis right now. How do you do a Taylor
Swift wedding?

Speaker 6 (31:33):
I'm sure it's so much less work than you think
it will be.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Like Albano has to marry us, Like, I don't even
know how.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
You do this.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Like, just they're regular people. They like regular stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Taylor Swift is not a regular person.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
She's a human.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I agree that she is a human.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
So outside of the security measures, I'm sure she just
wants like normal girl stuff.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
She ain't gonna they gonna go somewhere to another country
with people that don't even know who they are.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
There's no country they will go to where people don't
know who Taylor Swift is. But I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
No, I go to some countries and they might not know.
Remember when Beyonce and Jay was walking to the Lou
He's like, who are you? And Jay was like who
are you? Only didn't know he didn't know who Jay
and Beyonce was.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Yeah, but Jay and Beyonce aren't Taylor Swift. And that's
no disrespected Jay and Beyonce.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
That's not disrespected Ja and beyond that's that's.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I think there would be countries where people wouldn't know
Jay z I don't know Taylor Swifts a little different.
I feel like, you go to Antarctica and the fucking
penguin's gonna know Taylors.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
You don't think if you don't think if Jay and
Beyonce go to Antarctica, they somebody's going to.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Ja was on the Entring on the Barclays and this one.
The woman was like, yo, you're famous. He's like, sort of.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I just think that.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
I think that as big of a star as Taylor
Swift is, if she goes to other countries, she she
just has this very like kind of like grow through
aesthetic where it's just like she could be working in
a library, a bookshop, she could be a baristae at
a coffee shop. Like she has this look about it
that just fits in, like you know what I.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Mean, like it's like she could be Sarah Jessica Parker's
daughter more or less every white woman. Yeah, type of thing.
But I mean she still tells there's gonna be like
Navy seals around her, Like, who the fuck is that?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
I think it's easier for Taylor Swift to walk around
in Manhattan kind of like dressed down, just sidling like hoodie,
then it will be for Beyonce. No, I think Taylor Swift.
I think Taylor Swift could fit in in in Manhattan
way before beyond.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Oh well, okay, so.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yes, in disguise, right, I think in disguise, I'm just.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Just dressed down, like no gl glam, just like straight
up like sweats, you know, jacket whatever, going to like
the store, get something like some groceries.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Before beyond.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
I don't think so, man So this is I think
Taylor Swift fits into manhatt and way more than Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Beyon stands out.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
We we have this thing, right, and this is this
is a it's not a racist thing, but there's this
thing where you know, how white people think all black
people look like black people kind of think all white
people look like a little bit and it's like to
white people they will Rory.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
And Peage looked just alike.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
That is actually very true.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
White people say that, I mean, you are t ones
all the time. They say, I look like Mall, we're
here all the time all the time.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
That you don't.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
I swear to you that happens a lot.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Though.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
If first day of the pod walked in and if
I told y'allo, this is my older brother Peach, nobody
would question it. Nobody same parents, Yeah, this is his
older brother.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Would never questioned me. Of course that's your brother.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
If y'all told me that, I would go and this
isn't a racist thing. They must have different fathers.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Different mothers. Yeah. See, because you guys don't look alike.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
We both Actually it's not racist.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
Yeah, but but I'm telling you that white people recognize
the faces of other white people.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Listen, man, dude, Taylor Swift is also five to ten.
We have to add that factor. In a five ten
white woman walking down the street, You're gonna sort of.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Look, that's regular Manhattan. You know how many models live here?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I know, and you look at the five ten model
no matter what, and then that Taylor's.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
White task them at Pulta vita every week. I can't
get my fucking avocado toast in smoothie. I don't pay them,
No mine.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Tell us what might have been racist and white women? No,
I love white woman.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I'm just saying Taylor might have been sitting in there
and I didn't even know that was her. If Beyonce
is sitting in put vida, we're also not gonna know
like your Beyonce in port Avita getting avocado toast.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
Right now, because she's more relevant to your life. Yeah,
that's thirteen, a thirteen year older.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
She's gonna catch my eye, though, is what I'm saying.
I'm gonna look.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
If Tailor Swift is sitting down, I'm not I'm outlook
and just keep like.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
You know why you're going to look because Beyonce is
your type and Taylor Swift is not.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
That's not true. That's not because it's a type thing.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
She's just gonna catch my eye, Like I'm just gonna
like glance and look like I'm not gonna It's like
a kind of like a if you have blinders on,
like you see it, but you don't really like Taylor.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
She fits into the aesthetic a.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Little more like where it's like, you're not gonna really like,
where's Beyonce. I'm gonna be like, oh shit, like Beyonce
was just standing right there, that's Beyonce right there. Would
Taylor she could walk right past you and you wouldn't
even really.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
But in a non creepy way. Everyone in this room
when they see an attractive black woman, looks at them.
So yes, I would, yeah, but if I would look like,
oh god, this Beyonce, but.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Taylor is an attractive white woman and I would look.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
At So I said, we shouldn't be the gauge of this,
even though I think if I saw Taylor Swift walk
down the street, I go holy shit to Taylor Swift,
and I think everyone around to me would do the
same thing. It's a tourist city too. People got their kids.
The kids would immediately be like the fucking Taylor Swift.

Speaker 7 (36:41):
A teenager would immediately recognize Taylor Swift before me.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
She couldn't take one step out the eminem store, whereas
I do feel like Beyonce could maybe get to the
step set times square before.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Who's the Who's the person you saw in public for
the first time and was like, oh shit, and they
were like just like kind of like blending in, like
not like an event that they were doing, not like
a show.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Chris Rock when we did our trailer for our Land
that was that was hilarious. But I've seen Chris Rock
on Bleaker, like just walking like fucking Chris Rock. Like
he does that in Soho and does blend in. But
everyone is like, oh shit, if you double take, that's
Chris Rock. He's probably the one I think the most
in the city that I've seen. Other than that, Like,

(37:26):
I don't know if I've see celebrities like that.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Yeah, I haven't really seen celebrities.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Like the people at that unless we were at an event,
not just outside. If we were at an event, we
see him all the time, but just outside, I really
haven't seen him. I've seen like famous like TikTokers and
content creators, but not really.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
When Beyonce was at Griffin though, that was like the
wildest shit because I didn't, like I immediately recognize it
was dark and the two twins, you know, they used
to dance wear We're going nuts in the middle and
I was like, oh shit, that's the Beyonce twins, which
is fucked up because they just don't know their names.
And then Beyonce was sitting up on the couch the
whole time. Austin's be like, you just see Beyonce in
the back. I was like, oh shit, that was kind

(38:05):
of the most blending shit that I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, but that it was dark. So seeing Leonardo was
like the one for me. I was like, I can't
believe it. Call me.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I was like, that's this is Leo dog like and
he was just baseball hat on walking to the club
Like I'm like, bro, it's one of the most famous
people ever.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Like he just walking like how you doing, man? I
was like, you can't just walk past niggas like that, Leo, Like,
come on, this is DiCaprio.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Bro, this is di Caprio.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Are you kidding me? Like that was the crazy shit
to me.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Like seeing Leo like walking in the club baseball hat
on just chilling to me, that was like the fly ship,
Like okay, like he'd just be he don't need no cameras.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
He just walked right in like go.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Shit down next to the twenty two year olds.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I mean, you know, just living clubs, so you know
some good flowers around you. That's so you just need
to give. Call them flowers.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You need some like unicorn blood in.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Yeah, just put some flowers in the garden. So just
make me look good. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Who do we think takes whose last name?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
The one thing I can promise you was Taylor Swift
is not losing that last.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Name, all right, but what about like legally not brandwise,
She'll always be Taylor Swift on Spotify Swift Kelsey.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh yeah, she got to be Swift Kelsey.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Then Kese Kelsey Swift. Yeah, Taylor Kelsey Swift.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
It's long, it's wordy. Oh my god, bro, I might
I might buy it.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Listen, man, Travis was one of the only white players
to take a knee during the national anthem. He's progressive.
I could see him putting Kelsey Swift on the back
of his jersey. He better not not not that their
family would need any money, but.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
His father is from a different time in America. That
will not be happening.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I'm from Ohio.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I can promise you, Pau Paul Paul is going for it.
I could promise you that right now. He don't kids Swift.
Whatever she do for a living, the Kelsey name stays.
I can promise you that.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah. Yeah, they name got my my father's blood.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
On Yeah, they got my daddy's blood on it. Yeah,
he ain't losing that name, you crazy. Nah, his family
ain't going for that.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
But all right, of course we're very happy and hopes
that they have a long lasting relationship, never divorced, anything
like that, all that bullshit. They don't need they don't
they don't need money. But I would explain if my
my grandfather was still alive, he would be living at
me if I would do something like that. But I'd
be like, yo, our family name just off those jersey sales,

(40:34):
like you're great great great great great great great grandkids
will never need for anything. If I put out the
swift Pharaoh jersey, like it's over. We we know. I
have to think about money for the rest.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Of our lives. Yeah, that license in agreement, Like yeah,
we good, just look.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Like no tailor sells out at stadiums, but that jersey.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Imagine that jersey in every seat of the stadium. Yeah, yeah, no,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I'm not putting on our license. It doesn't have to
go on our gravestone, right, our kids can just still
have the Pharaoh azs. But for this.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
This just in agreement.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah you want to put asterisk next week, we can
do that. Yeah, swift Pharaoh asterisk on the back of
the jerseys, like I'm wishing.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
We gotta make it. We gotta come on an agreement though. Yeah,
I get it. I understand.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
We had a cameo for a little bit and it
started to feel nasty. It was like I'd be in
my d MS and if somebody wants a happy birthday,
I'll usually just do the video. Yeah for free. This
feels gross Now if she hits the fan and my
two year old needs to eat all day dot com.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Backslash, this is no happy birthday to you.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Yeah, sixth birthday, Hey, eighty six, don't mean you ain't
got it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Eighty six?

Speaker 4 (41:37):
You still take the cameo, Samuel, I understand because we
did it like for me maybe a week, and I
was like, bro, this is crazy. I was doing that already,
like four people for free. You know what?

Speaker 5 (41:47):
The famous Smoking Robinson where he the two kids had
smoking Smoky was their mother's favorite artist and she grew
up across the street from him, and I guess he
didn't know that. So they had smokey do a cameo
for sure he was Jewish and it was Hanukah.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
So he's like, I.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Want to wish uh uh miss Sheila happy chinookah.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Surprise, surprise. You didn't expect to hear from me, But
I was contacted by your sons, Jeff and Cher, and
they wanted me. They told me that you used to
live in Detroit, across the street from me, and gosh,
that's that's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
How are you doing again? How you doing?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I was talking to you again, I guess, but anyway,
you're living in Vancouver now and they wanted me to
wish you happy Chanookah. I have no idea what chanooka is,
but they said anyway, God bless your babe and enjoyed Chanookah.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Enjoorge George asked somebody that is a devout Irish Catholic
that was in the note No Child Left Behind program,
can you pull up how Hanukah is really spelled, because
I might have said the same.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Day, no, no, no, no, it is h right, bro, It's
spelled like eight different ways, okay, like I.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Might have done the exact same fucking thing, Like that
should be fucking me.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That way. Now I'm having a how is spelled? This
is like the K and Chick fil A?

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Because okay, now that's how I'm used to seeing it, right,
But I.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Do know DH one under it?

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Is it spelled? Yeah a Jewish lady. I'm like, I'm
clocking it now, it's Jewish.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Look, I've seen the ch as well before.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I've seen that spelling before, but I've definitely seen the
h A spelling as well.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So now which one? Which one is correct? Smokey might
not be wrong.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
If they sent it because you know, like with cameos,
they'll put like certain things like there's a list, So
if they spelled it that way, yeah, I'm I'm sounding
it out like I was. He's one of the.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Greatest songwriters of all time.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Like he can spell, he can pronounce, like he can read.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Like Smokey isn't wrong here like me.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
He never wrote down his rock. He was on a
fantastic viot like H.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Then Smokey isn't wrong. And that's why he said I
don't even know what Chanooka is.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Now, if you would have put H, he would have said, honikah.
He knows I'm more than positive.

Speaker 8 (44:24):
Smokey Robinson has Jewish friends, like he knows what. But
if Smokey gets c h A, He's gonna say Chanooka.
So Smokey is not wrong. We gotta get the legs
of Smokey Robinson.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
The past.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Chanooka sounds like a town in Long Island.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
But I've never seen that video before. It is the
first of all I seen that. I was like, all right.
I was like, every time I'm depressed, we're gonna hear.
I don't even know what Chanooka is. He's enjoyed whatever.
Nigga like the energy and that sh was just like, hey,

(44:59):
i gotta thirteen of these motherfuckers. I'm on number twelve.
I'm about to bran it.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
That, but like to your point, like, I'd rather if
somebody's in this, Like I just did this ship like
walking ahead. Some dudes just like yo, and I'm just like, bro,
what's your name? You know what I'm saying. He's just
like yo, my name is Quas. I was like, wow,
wow name Quas. Yeah, but I'm just like yo, And
I'm like, yo, Bro, I'm doing mixtape drops.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Some niggas withn't mixtapes.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Like I'm just like brocause like at the end of
the day, people come up to you and be like, yo,
I don't want to bother this that the third I
see you out, I'm like, fam, I'm off for five
hundred milligram edible shopping for jeans.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Any men, You're not bothering me at all?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Like this is actually great.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I was like, this is great because now the salesperson
is like, all right, they stop following me around the
store now exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like he
wanted somebody cool.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
People know who this guy. Now I'm thinking this is
a great way to steal. Now I pretend like I've
never met yo. Picture the more going around.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
And stuff and jeans jeans, man, I got these fleeing doctor.
I love with two sets.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
We should whole Chinooka series like the Three of Us.
Let's do it like the original. Jews definitely celebrated Chanooka
for sure. We can do it on the We can
do it on two fifth with the Israelite.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
The Black, the Blacks like bro original Man original, the original.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Hilarious Bro.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Because every got us put like yo, I got the
support to George and he yo bro, he put He's.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Like, Yo, I got all these rabbis on deck.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
He put like a list of rabbis and him, and
one of them was like a black Israel, like he
just suit that motherfucker in there.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Like one of them was a childless I'm like, yo, this.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Nigga just throwing hell Mary's brother just he doesn't read
it before he just like.

Speaker 8 (46:46):
Broka might be the goannooka, who go might we might
need to open.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
The Plus my rabbi Blacks were like, we didn't this shait.
Come on, baby, that's it. You haven't been an episode
of Curbing the Chicken making this shit happen. Oh man,
this is the ideation station right absolutely. By the way,

(47:14):
everything we say is copywriting because it's been recorded. You
told the story a very long time ago, but there's
always new fans. And I do want Hugh to tell
Merrill the time you almost got jumped by seventy five Bloods.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
The Bronx God.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Oh, the same exact ship happened to me.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
But it was like graffiti related, right, So it was
just like Brons versus Brooklyn on the graffiti ship. Like
and I want my man Taze, who was like the
u n of graffiti that nigga knows everybody.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
So we walking, we get off, like I've seen that
tag before because that is everywhere. Yeah. So yeah, he's like, y'all,
he's one of these niggas like, Yo, what's up? Where
is here?

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's good, y'all. Shorty over there. Yeah, you
know what's good? Baby? You know what I'm saying, like, y'all,
super smooth like miss type of dude. Bro. We walking down.
This is back in the old j days.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
You call People's choice, whatever your mama do. Come through
the excurience. Bro, we're stopping at We're stopping that post
and then we're going down.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Now we're going to downtown to Ludlow whatever, turn the
tables upside down, the pianos, whatever.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Bro. We get in the fucking we get in the
fucking car. We smoke it on the way there. Boom,
we get out the car.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
My man, Nce, he's like seven, the idiot dude and
the crew that just does ship just to do it.
He jumps out the car. The two dudes holding hands
walking down the street for no reason. Now homophobia, not
just it could have been a dude in it could
have been an elephant walking down the Street just jumped
out of the car just said.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
They faced bro like right here. I was like, this
is how we staw tonight, bro Like.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
I think there was a Blundy does the excursure bro
Like some ship was going down. So now were walking
towards like fourteenth like Uni Square whatever coffee shop over there.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
That was botime of the legendary Spot, legendary spot. So
I'm going over there. I'm yo, I'm gonna got us
all free drinks. I got us.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
We start walking and there's another group of motherfuckers with
the Steve text and the whole ship and the grills
and the chick.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I was like Brooklyn. I was like, oh man, I
was like, I feelt like Brooklyn. I was like a
Brooklyn nigga. Was like, they're gfeting niggas because they got
the no Fisher. But the bronxtigs bruh, and I recognized him.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
I was like, oh, that's this one that signed on
that side one and one of them dudes, I ain't
gonna say his name. He used to come to the
Bronx just to write Fuck the Bronx, like and go
over people and be like fuck the Bronx, and I
pussy this thing.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
How that that's that was a real that's a real
level of disrespect like that, like what was started.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Like fun your whole burrow. So I was just like, oh, man,
like I was like, I'm counting the man. I'm like,
I was like eight of us, it's like fourteen of them.
I'm like, man, I'm gonna start throwing garbage kids.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
I'm already thinking like you, I'm gonna start like like, yeah,
I'm gonna throw a bound old when you catch throw
it back, I'm the pipe out.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
And I'm not gonna go like that everything in your mind.
You think I was going to everything with my jacket
over my head, nigga in a puddle.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
And by the way, throwing a trash in for it
does not do the day, no damage, movies, nothing, that
means nothing.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Generation. You can't just throw projectile all that double dragon
ship doesn't do anything.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Yeah, and also eating an apple that you find on
the street, it's not gonna never come back, give me
up and tight hold chicken.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
And you found in the garbage on the platter. That
don't work.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
So we walk in and ship and tell us of course,
you know, smooth man, he's just like, y'all, let's whatever,
my nigger. And I was just like, oh ship, thank
fucking god. One other dude is like yo tag Boa
then same ship yo Yo. It's like a game yeah
yo yo yo ma man yo we yo Yo, we'd

(50:44):
be TC cake.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
No no West.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Back then I drop over there now and I'm just
I just shake my head. I'm like, yo, if y'all
only knew what this looked like maybe twenty five years ago, I'm.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Like, fam it was, and it was talking about people
talk about New York is a melting pot back then
down there was really a melting pot, bro, because I
end up in spots like Manitoba that's like a straight
hardcore metal head club and I'm in there with gold
bottoms and straight backs and a red steep tag like
tagging up the walls of shape. But it was because
it was graffiti dudes in there. So it was just
like you walked out Ludlow's Pianos. It's like Donny Brunk

(51:17):
and Ship Community fifty four, all these different spots and Bro,
there was like real like shit going on, Like it
was like a real energy girl and at that time,
now and I feel like now it's just like all right, bro,
like the energy is totally you got a crumble cookie here.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Exactly like you said.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
You said the coffee shop when that when I heard
that they was getting rid of the coffee.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Shop, listen to me, that was like the most depressive recipes. Yeah,
like the coffee shop. How do you go to? That's
legendary spots, But.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
It's it's interesting to say five point you talk about
graffiti when they just gave five points.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
That also looking at like ship and make you drive
past his white building.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Points you TAGNI. Yeah, bro, it's like a right, it.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Passes bro, like not nothing crazy, Like I didn't go
up there do like some crazy vertical piece my little
tags whatever, because you know, it's like it's like a
ranking file, you know what I mean, like if you
like a young dude, because it's eighth grade thirteen, Like
that's when I was going over there, like twelve years old, thirteen,
and like everybody else is like twenty years old, smoke
angel dust this shit, Like I'm like that what used

(52:18):
to pay trainings?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I was like, uh, like yo.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
I'm gonna do my little thing here in the corner,
like I ain't gonna go over nobody but yeah, nah
that shit man like this, all these spots of disappear.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
And even that what was the movie they did with
like a whole bunch of a list actors and they
shot it at five points. The city got their money.
It was like a fucking one hundred million dollar contract,
so they could shoot a scene there and they were like,
all right, we'll just we'll make a condos. Now one
of the most iconic graffiti places on fucking Earth Earth period.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
It's crazy because I feel like things like that fure
you go, like from Minnesota and need homes. From Minnesota,
they need homes. Okay, what the city isn't need culture, Like, oh,
we don't need that. Let's let's build overpriced condos with
no closet space.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Yeah,