September 21, 2025 • 51 mins
This week on New Rory & Mal, Dame Dash's Breakfast Club interview is an instant classic, Mal thinks Cam'ron was right to kick off Adrien Broner off his show for hitting on Stat Baby, Rory predicts the beginning of the end for Young Thug, and Rory and Mal recap Murda Mook vs Hitman Holla #volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I feel like we have to give Maul some flowers here.
I mean, it's no secret that his brother and his
crew created the term pause, and then Maul took the
torch and very bravely in twenty twenty five, was one
of the only people that when you say something that
has nothing to do with sexuality, he says, that's because
you're gay. And then the torch was passed back to
(00:27):
Dame in the crew. You earned like, this is a legacy.
This is a legacy of homophobia that I think is
just incredible that now they're taking your phrases. Who's making them?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm homophobic?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh you know, I don't think you're homophobia. Did you
watch this, Dame Dash and Charlota Magne.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I watched it three times. This is the greatest show
on earth right now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Let me say Breakfast Club as well, because they were
all there. This is probably the first interview I've watched
twice in maybe five Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't watch anything.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Other than like maybe a movie or a series when
you're talking about interviews and things like that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I watched clips and things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But this, uh, this Dame Breakfast Club interview, it was
just another one to add because I think every time
he's done it this it's a classic.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't think he's ever done a breakfast club interview
in it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He was the greatest breakfast club desography of all time.
When he put out the first one, it was like,
how could he ever top that?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah? Yeah, no, this one, we.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Didn't know what we had coming.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So what exactly happened for the people that haven't watched
it because I only seen a clip. In the clip
I saw with Charlemagne saying raiseja, hen if you think
Dame is broke, and I was screaming, I'm like, yo,
what the fuck is going on in this interview?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But I didn't watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, that was after an hour and a half of
things being off the rails, and anytime Charlamagne said anything,
Dame would say, well, that's because you're gay. So then
Charlemagne at some point started to get not frustrated, he
played into it well and was like, ray ja, if
you think Dame's broke, And then Dame said, raise your
hand if you think Charlamane is gay.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
This was one of the crowds, Oh, I thought you
was telling the room. Yeah, before we get.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Into this, I will say, I apologize with some of
my Charlomagne hate of the Complex list. Yeah, this could
put you at number one after this fucking ef This
is the greatest shit I've ever seen in my life. Yeah,
because even like before when Envy and Charlemagne, trying to
talk or argue with Dane is one of the hardest
(02:34):
things on earth. So the way they handled it of
like really playing into it made it one of the
greatest interviews I've ever seen in my entire life. But
where do we even begin. Nothing was covered. I just
want to make that clear. We got no answers on anything,
No real questions were asked. Dame became a chairman in
the middle of calling somebody that has been on Revolt Gay.
(02:56):
Everything was insane. He was standing up, he was I
was like, how is the mic even still picking up?
He's running laps around the table. It was the crazy
little thing I've ever seen. It was cool because Dame
he went up there, well he had announcements. We don't
know how true those announcements are, but he had announcements.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And he wanted he wanted to use that as an
opportunity for you know, Charlemagne or Envy to say things
that they may have said about Dame when he wasn't there,
like okay, let's let's talk about it now. And Dame,
you know, he started it with, you know, I'm not
going to get upset. I'm not going to yell, so like,
you know, you're not going to trigger me, Like, but
just don't cut me off. Let me answer so that
(03:36):
you can understand what I'm saying. So he went up
there with the right energy. He went up there with
the energy to kind of like answer any you know,
things that they may have been saying about him, you know,
saying he's broke and you know whatever whatever you know
they may have been saying. It's like okay, So Dan
was trying to explain, like if I've been paying two
hundred and fifty thousand a year in child support for
the last however many years, is that person broke?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Like these are the things that you know.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So day he went up there trying to teach them
and say, you know, y'all don't know because y'all are
stuck in his box and it's coughing every day, so
y'all don't know what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Y'all don't know business.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So it started as trying to shed light on some
of the things that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
They may have been hearing about Dame.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In so many ways, I think that you and I
both know some of the things that Dame is doing
legally to where it's like, okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We get it, we understand. So he was giving away
a little too much on that do.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So you know, it's like we understand. But I think
he went up there just to have a come. But
then in Dame fashion, it has to be entertaining, and
it has to be you know him, you know, talking
shit about somebody in the room, like snapping on him.
It has to That's Dame, That's who he is. And
it made for a great another classic Dame Dash Breakfast
Club interview. Now, some of the things he was saying,
(04:53):
you know, his announcements with the chairman.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thing and all, you know, revolt.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You know, then I guess the President voles when I
came out and said that that wasn't true. We don't
know if he's saying it's not true meaning it's not happening,
or it hasn't happened yet. Maybe there are talks of
it happening, but as of I guess still today, I
don't think that they've come out of may release a
statement saying that he is the chairman.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So again, because so much dancing and manipulation was happening
throughout the entire interview, he briefly said, which I don't
know how to fully interpret it. He was saying that
he has a certain amount of time to to buy it.
I guess like he was the chairman, but there's only
a window where he has he has to make a
(05:37):
choice of whether he's acquiring this or not. Yeah, so
I guess officially he wouldn't be, but the it was offered,
so if he wants to be, he could be. I'm
not going to sit here and try to explain it
because I didn't fully understand. Yeah, but when they came
out and said that was all false, I was like,
I went back to that part, and that's where I
think he was explaining, like he has a window and
(06:00):
if he wants to take it, he can take it.
If he doesn't, then he's going to move on. And
I think he may have just taken like when you
put when your house is in escrow. I think he
may have took an escro role at Revolt as the chairman,
not officially, just so he could get back at Cam publicly.
And I don't think he will be taking that revolt
chairman Joe. I think that was all just a play
(06:23):
to be able to go to breakfast club and say Cam,
I'm your boss now.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I thought he was gonna have way more smoke for
envy outside of the first one. Envy was the one
on Instagram last week in front of all his cars,
like this is what not being a boss gets you.
After Dame had filed chapter eleven, I thought he was
gonna come with envy smoke. I didn't know he was
going to be calling charlat Mane gay.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
For two hours he fought chapter eleven and chapter seven,
Chapter seven, I'm sorry, but classic.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
How do you argue with somebody when because even towards
the end, Charlottine tried to get it back on at
least subject do you argue with someone and when you
ask a valid question the only response they have at
that point is it's because you're gay. The Funny Show
in the beginning they were cutting Dame off, but then
(07:13):
they stopped, and then Dame would ask them a question
and they try to answer me, like stop cutting me off,
Like you just asked me a question. I'm answering your question.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That though, that's a classic classic Breakfast Club one thousand,
Like the first I saw a clip first and I said,
oh no, I gotta watch Like I can't. I can't
just watch clips. I have to watch it because I
knew just that energy that Dame had and that clip
that I was watching him calling Charlamagne gay.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I was just like, oh yeah, this is another classic
about that have one.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And this is why you just can't argue with anybody
from uptown because they have this strategy and you do
it too, where you get other people involved in the
room that want nothing to do with it, and then
they sit there awkwardly. Like when he was arguing with
Charlot Magne. He went over to jests Jess hadn't said
(08:03):
a fucking word yet. I forgot exactly what it was,
so I use an example, Jess, is he gay? Yes?
Or no? Is he gay? And Jess is like, I'm not.
I don't. Dudes from uptown, that's how they argue in rooms.
They just bringing other people and yo yes or no,
like Ue, I'm not in this, I have no. Don't
(08:25):
try to use me to prove your point and then
when you do that, they're like, see see he thinks
he thinks the same thing.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, well, Envy said he thought Charlomagne was gay too,
though he just said I think he's kind of gay too.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So I think Envy was being like funny, like that's
his co host, Like that's like if about one.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Of us, Like, well, I mean you are and you
are too, nigga, Now.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What you can't steal that, James? You not like you
want me to convince you that he's not gay? You
not like you want me to convince it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, no, no, it's not that you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You can't do that because you're actually gay, Like that's
that's on wreck what gay? Like are you trying to
recruit me? Like I don't Rord' is not on record
doing gay ship, Like, don't do that. Don't even start that.
I'm not on record or offering because.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Y'all because at one time I did get a lot
of pussy and I must have been gay at that time.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
No, no, any type of pussy like you really and
I wanted to say, am I had Rory? You wasn't
getting that type of pussy that we talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Like you wasn't and you wasn't like in a see.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We were saying, like when you're in a relate, a
healthy relationship and you just can't stop.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Oh no, we got from the relationship part. Then we
were just going into just getting mad pussy, like if
you just funk a lot and like run through girls,
you're gay.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yes we did not say that, but okay, we left it.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We were talking talking about relations you're just cheating on
your girl, like serial cheater.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now I'm saying, just like ha fase on tour.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, no, no, that's not the same.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Different city like we're saying, you have you just have
a queen. Just savor as Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
We've all been there. I love Miss Tennessee, love her,
Miss I wonder say she's doing in life.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But yeah, this.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Breakfast club interview though, was definitely a definitely want for
the red. But Dame has I'm people say what they want.
Dame has the ability to like sit on a platform
and like you know, I guess go viral whenever he wants.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He has that.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
He's he's that type of personality is that he's you know,
he speaks about he says whatever the fuck he wants
to say, he's not apologetic about what he wants to say,
and then he says shit like I'm the chairman of
Revolt and people are just like the Revolts, says you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Like and then he calls them. He posted on his
Instagram and says, this is a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So it's like, you know, anybody that has the ability
to do that, you know, then this is people are
gonna watch it. People love that type of ship where
it's just like, yo, this dude is crazy. But Dame
is not crazy. Dame is very intelligent. His methods and
you know, the way he goes about things are a
little unconventional, but he's had success in being unconventional, so
(10:57):
that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I just think the fact that he was up there
and you know it kind of got a little little
tension between him and Charlamagne is what kind of made
that whole thing like, oh no, I got to watch it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But I mean they both handled it very well because
it could have went left. And I liked how both
of them had that understanding because even when Dame was like,
I could punch in your face right now, you would
do nothing. I would never do that, but you're feminine
like you're you were proud of running, I'm proud of
staying and get my ass.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
You're gay. Damn you got to do the gay math
you ran. I wouldn't, Yeah, you gay.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Caron was being respectful because he was asked once, hey,
her boyfriend's here, please don't get it, and then he
kept doing it like that was DDG. Didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No, he didn't do that. It wasn't It wasn't a
disrespectful thing.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So I love that Cam did this. I have two
comments on it.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Okay, Well, from what I see that people.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Are comment on, the number one thing that I'm seeing
that people are commenting on is they're saying that, well,
Cam started talking shit once Adrian was gone, called him
a junkie and was popping shit. But when he was there,
he said, you know, it's much love my brother, respect
to you, thanks for coming by, like I love you.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You know Adrian could fight right like you know He's like.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
No, I'm aware.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I listen.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'm commenting on what people are on the internet. The
backlash that I saw Cam get right, how would y'all
have handled that scenario? You don't have to use me
as an example, but how would you guys, they were.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Heading on Peage.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
How is the agent Bruno comes in here, he's flirting
with Peach and asking him to stop because Page is the.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Heterosexual have handled that scenario in the same way.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
But ad yo, bro, you gotta clearly Adrian wasn't in
the most clearest of minds.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
He looked like he probably was hanging out.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It was fight, just coming off a fight weekend in Vegas,
like he probably was a little in tox skateated, hungover, partying.
So he and it looked like Adrian didn't even know
he was gonna be on the shovel because he was like,
oh yeah, y'all good, like y'all, y'all got me, because
he like he just came in. Because I don't know
if people know, but the studio is in the lobby
of a hotel casino.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So, like if you've ever been in Vegas, they have
all the restaurants stores, it's just like that. It's just
that it's a studio and people walking by, you guys,
when they're recording, you can like walk by and see
camp Mace recorded. So I think Adrient happened to just
be in the hotel and was like, you know, just
popped in. But I don't think because if you look
at the very beginning, I don't think he knew that
he was going to be they were going to be
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recording and he was gonna be on the show. And
that's why Cam paid him because it was like, yo,
just come on, hop on real quick to fight just
you know happened this weekend. Yeah, we just wanted to
just talk about the fight real quick. But you know,
Adrian was a little hungover, little you know, might have
been on you know, just a different cloud at the moment.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And he's an asshole. It's okay to say that.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well yeah, I mean put that in there as well,
and just you know, just the energy that he was,
you know, showing stat baby was a little flirtatious, a
little awkward, a little weird, and her boyfriend is there
actually you know, like he's present, and Cam was like, yo,
like try to give him the cool like yo, chill bro,
like you know what I'm saying, like you, And then
(14:05):
it just got it got to a point where it
was like this is too weird, like and it's not.
It doesn't make no sense for you to keep sitting here,
like we can't even every time we ask you a question,
this is what you start, like, Yo, you are so beauty.
It's like all right, like we're not gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So Cam was writing what he did and the way
he handled it, but.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I think the you know, what he said after Adrian
left was a little unnecessary, like calling him a junkie
and all of that. I think that was a little unnecessary,
Like he could have just left it at you know,
thank you for coming, paid him for his you know.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
This time, I think Kim was pissed off. Though he
was pissed, I think he was pissed off. I think
like when he was talking he might have meant what
I mean. Obviously he meant what he said, but you know,
when you upset, I think Kim was really pissed off.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
And I think the mortal about it.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Kim knew he was was twisted, he knew he was drunk.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Anybody you know that look, And I'm sure they were
having a conversations before they started recording. You could tell
when somebody this nigga he twisted and I think you
know that was it. But I just again, I think
he could have just left it on Yo, thank you
for your time.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know what I'm saying. If you want to wait,
wait for us outside. Cool.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
He didn't have to get into yo fucking junkie. This,
that and the third like he didn't have to do that.
That was a little or if you're gonna do it, like,
don't let it. Don't let that see the light of day. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, like, make sure they cut that, like,
don't let.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
That ain't but y'all know that ain't it ain't up.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, but it's again, say it while he's in
the room.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I mean, listen, if you're gonna say it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
If you're gonna say it, say it while he's like, yo,
get out the room. You're fucking junkie, Like get out
of here. If it's that, if that's the energy, then
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
But again I just think that you know, Cam handled
handled it professionally.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
At first.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It was like stood up a stat baby la yo
fo bro listen, gotta let you go, thank you for
your time.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Professional. You gotta suit on. Cam got shoes on.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He kept the professional hard bottoms. You know, he's sliding
all over the place. He kept the professional but it's
aging brow at the same time, like niggas ain't gonna
just put their hands on aging bro. That's not gonna happen.
Niggas is going to sleep the average niggas going.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
He could be on every sentence like.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Terrence Crawford and I could talk like that, like know
what I'm saying. Like Cam can't talk like that to
Agent Bron because you know obviously it goes somewhere don't
need to go. And I thought Cam did a great job,
was very professional. I would have loved to see him
just leave it there, keep a professional.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Would'a Would y'all do that for me?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Kicking nigga out here? Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Cam handled that better than I would like.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
If it was that type, I would be like, yo, Bro,
like come on my nigga, like and I'm not paying you.
I thought that was super honorable with Cam did like
he peeled off. He peeled off for him. It was
like I was real. I was like, Okay, I wouldn't
have did that. It's just like nigga, I didn't get it.
We didn't get what we wanted to get. Like it's
like you in here for with the marriage tone. Yo,
you are so like bro, we're talking about Terrence Crawford
(17:04):
and Canelo and you, Sidney keep talking about demarriage. I
didn't realize you was that pretty, Like, oh my god,
you are.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, we've never had We've never had a disrespectful girl.
Go ahead, Roy, We've never had any disrespectful guest. He
that guest flirt with me, but not that bad.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
He was on his Broadway Joe naming shit. Remember on
the sidelines when he was talking to the ESPN reporter
and asked a question and he's like, you say, was fried?
And then she asked like a real question about like
the Jets organization and everything, and he goes, I could
care less about the team struggling. I want to kiss you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, he was on Joe Namath was on a thousand.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
That's like, I feel my thing.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He was cooked. Watch Chad play. Impresses me the same
thing and presses.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Them What does it mean to you now when the
team is struggling.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I want to kiss you. I couldn't care less about
the team struggling. I want to kiss you huge.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
She definitely closed that out real quick, like all thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I wish I love jokes. I wish men understood how uncomfortable,
like I wish I was wrong. Feel how uncomfortable that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Makes Cam kicked them out.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, but I mean, like, yes, it makes everybody in
the room uncomfortable, But how it feels for women like
that ikey feeling we get, especially when we're trying to
be professional because you're not a nigga on the street.
We can't just like walk away for you or say
fuck you. We're stuck like we can't move. And then
people on the internet were like, well, I don't understand
why Cam did all that. She was laughing, and I'm like, oh,
y'are uncomfortable. This is why y'all are so many men
(18:47):
are do accident or what they call accidental rape because
you don't know when women are on You don't know.
What I'm saying is when women don't exactly say no,
but their five is extreming no. It's like people don't
understand cues like body language, Like they don't get it.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
They have no perception of how uncomfortable are making somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, oh no, she she looked clearly uncomfortable and thinking
about her job, thinking about her man's probably on the
other side of the glass, like thinking about how she's
coming across with yeah, that's an awful situation. So I
saw that too, that Cam did it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
For the boy that Cam only did it because her
boyfriend was there and if her.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Boyfriend wasn't there, that was part of Cam said hey,
please stop doing that. Also, her man is here too,
and then he said my bad. And then again right
away like.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, people don't know Cam like his character and like
he definitely Caim definitely did that because he understood how
uncomfortable she was.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah, they don't play a ball stack like now.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Granted that the boyfriend being there, he said that he
was like, yo, like a boyfriend is but that was
some shit like like yo, Like I'm not saying I
wouldn't have did it. If her boyfriend was here, you
could flirt with us like yo. But like, aside from
her being an comfortable, her boyfriend is here, like nigga, chill,
like you bugging out right now.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Let me tell y'all something. First of all, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I don't watch that show, so I don't know if
this show's general consensus is that stat baby has a boyfriend.
Let me tell y'all something right now. If nobody knew
I had a boyfriend and a nigga was flirting with me,
and y'all go, yo, her boyfriend here, cut that out, yo,
What y'all don't Why y'all ain't gotta cut that out?
Like why y'all why I'm telling people my business? Why
y'all telling people who I got in the studio? Like
(20:26):
she would the fuck out? Just kick him out, you know, see.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because you're still trying to see that's your fucking probably no, no,
not fuck that because that's your problem. That is your problem. See,
you still trying to be one fit in the game.
One foout.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Sit your hot ass down, just sometimes like sit down.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
First of all, was understood, don't need to be explained.
That's number one number.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Try to give me these colloquialisms that all these holes
out here, you what's understood. If you ain't, it ain't tricking.
If you got it, that's the same ship. That's the same.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Ship, ya yo.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like keep nah, your boyfriend is here. Now you go
home and deal with the other nigga section like a word. Yeah,
now you deal with that. Yeah, damage controlled. Get your
PR person on the line, and you know what I'm saying,
get out of that.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But if your boyfriend is here.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Some pr easy, I'd be like, Kim just said that
because he wanted him to leave.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
That's easy.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Pr Cam just said that because he wanted immediately want
nobody there for me.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
It's easy.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
PR Yeah, that's easy. You see that, y'all wouldn't be
doing this crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
No, I'm just saying if I was a terrible person,
that is what I would say, but not me.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
But you think that would work? Yes? Why do you
think that work?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I see it would work on certain guys, but it
can't work on a guy like myself that has been
a side nigga.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well me personally, I tell everybody that everything that is
set on this podcast is entertainment. Don't believe anything that's
said on this podcast. I say that the moment a
nigga slides in my DMS and he's talking about a clip,
everything set on that podcast is for entertainment everything.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But if a guy is dating you that has.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Been a side dude before knowingly was a side dude
like him, and the girl understood, like so he ain't
know his worth Like yo, yeah, I got at a boyfriend,
but you know we could so now and being a
side dude, you can pick up on certain things. Now
you're dating another woman if she's not being honest with
you and telling you exactly what it is, you know
because you can. You know the pattern, You know the
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things you can like, Oh okay, but.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Why are you using your history of being a piece
of shit person with a scarlet ai your chest?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Why are you using that against me?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Would I need a piece of shit?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I was the side dude, like knowingly, like, okay, I'm
not trying.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
To you know, you're still a piece of ship. He
was providing a service the.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Same way a girl who sleeps with a nigga that
has a ye.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
But there's a girl I didn't have a girlfriend. I
was a side dude. I didn't have a girlfriend. Yes,
but you knew she was in a relationship.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Your APU weren't engaging and cheating and dishonestly, you too
are a.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, I don't know, homeboy, That ain't my that ain't
my bitch across the barrier. That ain't my business. That's
like with you. I don't got nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But I'm just saying, and being in that position in
life before and playing that role, you understand now when
you date other women when it's like they being moving.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Funny, it's because you was laying down next to a liar.
Doesn't mean that everybody you lay next to is a liar.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm not saying everybody's a liar. I would never say that.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I'm just saying when certain things happen and the woman
starts moving a certain way, those that know no.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's like, okay, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So when you yo, chill, don't flirt with the marathon
my boyfriend right here, and then you go home and
be like, no, I don't know what I'm saying. It
wasn't no Whiteare that.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
The dude that you doing that?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Explaining to us ever played the side due before he
knows you're lying?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Not exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's what I'm trying to say, Like, don't pull out this.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I'm pull out.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You really think I'm stupid enough to let them lead
that ship in there? If I really had a side, Nigga,
come on now, you.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yo, you want those baby? I didn't even know you
was like, yo, baby, d I did not know. I
knew you wasn't ship, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I didn't know he was like the diarrhea though, Like
that's the that's the wet ship, you the wet like
loose ship what like?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And you know, look him in his face like, yo,
what you mean like oh you want of those?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
No, baby D, get out of that. Stop don't do that.
I don't baby D. Do not do yo. Yo, do
not be that woman. Baby D, do not be that woman.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I'm just saying, we're talking, we're having like what ifs hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Of course baby D is the character on the show.
That's what. And there's DeMars exactly baby D. And it
remains to me seen with Demeris it's definitely the person
that if her dude questions like, yo, who is this guy,
she would say, if I was cheating, you would never
know who it was. Meanwhile, that's the guy. It's him
the whole time. Who the fuck Scoopy? You found him immediately?
(24:58):
Who else would it have been? Like?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
That is the crazy that when y'all don't talk about
that enough as women, Like when y'all get past that
point in your life, like go back and be like, yeah,
I was tripping an I was on bullshit. Why y'all
don't never say when y'all was on bullshit? Like why
y'all just try to delete it like it never happened.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
No, we say, we mean but to our homegirls.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, say it to the nigga that you was calling
crazy for thinking that you was cheating on him with that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Do that.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
He's moved on, he's happy, he has a new family.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Why would I go back and say, Yo, by the way,
you were right about this, because now it's in his
brain again.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
He healed.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I'm gonna let him stay healed. That's maturity.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I'm not gonna get that off of my chest just
to relieve myself of that pressure.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like you're happy, I want you to stay happy.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Well, if you're at a girl, accuse you like pull
up an ig page or bring up a check and
be like, if we broke up today, you would go
right to her, And in your head you're like, well, yeah,
i'd be single. Yeah, yeah, No, it's a bit. I'm
not fucking her. But if we broke up today, yeah
I might, I might date her, Yes, I might date her. Yeah.
(26:00):
But I'm saying when women get that off, it's like say,
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's more so them speaking to the fact that you're attracted, sir,
you like her, That's what it is like that ship type.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
In a relationship, man or woman can find someone else attracted.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, it's okay, it's not. I didn't know. I didn't know.
It was a deeper, darker criminal link though.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I don't cheat, though I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
All four grandparents are gone, so there's no more to.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I can't use that no more. I got like one
of y'all got to die for me to get that off.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Oh my god, just go cheat.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't want to die.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, I don't don't want to be the blood sacrifice.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That I would never do one if if you had
to die a blood sacrifice for me to cheat, like,
I would literally make it a fair. I wouldn't just
cheat one night off your death. That's critical off your death.
I could get like a whole second family.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you think you could ever be one faithful?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah? Yo, yes, I'm just what.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Do you mean currently?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Are you good?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yo? Niggas is not I'm asking. I'm just asking do
you think every day I promised? I wasn't framing it
like that.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm literally asking, like, do you think that you could
one day? It was like, yo, I'm not, it's completely
like clipped.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
This is my yes, I've been in Yes, I've been
in faithful relationship.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Nigga, have you can you?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You see the different sides of this room. Though Samara
said I'd be her blood sacrifice so she could cheat
for one night, I said I'd suck a dick to
keep her alive.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
The difference because you're gay, that's because you're gay.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's honorable. No, that's honor. No more of the Harlem
phrases coming out the coming. Does he takes care of
his family, that's yeah. But come out the cloud and
say I'm gay. Just say it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Don't be out here pretending you not. That's what Dane
was saying. You don't like when you pretend that you're
not gay. Nothing wrong with being gay, but say you're gay.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
In those that context, I'm saving her life. It's jack
or die. I'm sorry, Okay, listen to me. So to me,
that's like the honorable thing to do, the same way
Danane was saying, you know, hustle for your last name,
not your first, like you put your family every sold
I think that's the same way I'm keeping Demarus alive.
(28:21):
Like I'm making those sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean, listen, the.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Fact that you. You know, why why would you bring
that back up? Like I thought that was funny because
you just said you'd kill me to go cheat, and
I'm trying to keep you alive.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But I'm just saying, like usually when we say some
ship where it's like damn, like you know, like I
want you to know how much I love y'all. So
I'm gonna say this, but we're just never gonna talk
about it again, like you bought the ship back up?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
You curious?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Mmm, she's talking to you, Charla. Man, she's talking to you, charlat.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
What you're saying. In that scenario, I could just tag
Charlemagne and be like you like.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This more like this is your expertise. Yeah, I could
hire you. I could be your boss to you do this.
And Demeria stays alive. Oh my god, I guess we
have to stay on fights one more time. Young thug
fighting is his past.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Man. I miss my dog.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
So Thursday, when we was in the studio, Peage played
the record and.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I thought it was a joke. I thought it was
a AI.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, a seven minute AI record is crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean, I just thought it was that's a lot
of data.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I just like I don't know, man, I don't know
if we needed this. You made it through the whole record, yeah,
and a ninja patience, like that's crazy. You made it
through this record.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
This was just not good. It like the music wasn't good,
the rapping wasn't good. I mean, I understand the sentiment, like,
you know, it's like you apologizing to people that you
know are hearing things that you're saying about them affected
some relationships and things like that.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I understand that sentiment. I don't know if we needed
a seven minute record saying that, like, just call these
dudes individually, send a text something like, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
We didn't need we didn't need this record.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, man, apology is changed behavior, and you should change
the song. This is this was bad. Yeah, this wasn't
this was I read the cliff notes, though, I see
he apologized to Mariah, to Drake, to Dwelt's. I just
don't really care. I think thug probably thinks people care
more than they really do because the Internet just wants
(30:49):
to make jokes. Nobody really cares.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Nobody cares about So I keep telling y'all, they just
showed us the UFO flying straight through a missile and
know we're talking about a young Thug apology record, Like
nobody cares about this. There are crazier things going on
that people are just ignoring. At this point, It's like,
what the fuck is happening.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I just think it's kind of crazy that this is
what it took for Thug to start putting out music,
because he's been quiet until all this shit leak. Now
he's putting out seven minute records. And I felt like
he just put out an apology record last week too
that we thought was ai and then a video came
out for it. So yeah, this is one of those
that I think we should just all move back.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But what does this mean for Thug? Like moving forward?
Like what does what does Thug sound like? What does
his music sound like? Obviously relationships are you know, strained
at this point. He probably doesn't have the relationships that
he once had, uh as far as in the industry
and other artists and things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
What is this me for Thug? Like what is this?
What is just how does this affect him?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think it's it's very much a post four forty
four in Lemonade. I think we will get the Thug
and Mariaha scientists Everything is Love Part two, Like, I
think they'll do a joint album to like show solidarity.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Baby D, it might be over, bro, do you think
it's over for Thug? I Okay, let's clarify. I'm not
saying that I think that it's over for Thug. I
think it there's a possibility that Thug will never be
as big as he was, And I think that in
(32:31):
an eraror where and where people's it's hard to come
back and put out an album like anyway, like Gunna
is the exception out the rule. Once you've been you know,
going for a while, or like once you kind of
turn people off, it's hard. It's hard to come back
into invested to.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
What BABYD is saying, it's hard to come back just
if you just did a bit o come on Like
that's because now it's like, you know, so much has
change sound, you know, slang and things like that, and
just move forward faster that cadences like a lot of
things that have changed in music, So you're playing catchup
naturally when you go away and you got to do
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a bit, But to now have relationships that you probably
once leaned on that are not there anymore, the relationship
you probably had that you leaned on creatively, you know,
while you're in the studio, like a lot of those
things are no longer available to you because you can't
even be around certain people anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You can't hang out with certain people anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So a lot has changed for Thug, just you know,
as far as life goes. So now you're talking about
creative creating and writing and you know, catching the vibe
and energy and you know a lot of that it's
things that people don't talk about that goes into making
great music. You got to catch that that right energy,
that moment, that pulse. It's a lot that goes you
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know that you don't really think about. That just kind
of happens when you're in that in that world that
I don't think Thug probably has at the at this
moment anymore. So you know, his sound is definitely gonna change.
What he what he talks about is gonna change, clearly.
So it's like, does his audience do they follow that change?
(34:15):
Do they follow that sound? Do they follow that new Thug?
Do they follow? Or does he have to is this
something where he has to literally just start from scratch
and rebuild rebrand, you know, kind of like pivot his
sound a little bit, like I think Thug is just
it's a lot of questions that he's probably happening with
his camp in his circle right now.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Everyone's gonna follow if it's good, like if Gonna. If
Gunna came out and the music he put out right
away was asked, the overall energy would be like, yo,
gun is a rat, fucking we don't support rats. But
it was good, so everyone followed suit, and Gunna is
probably bigger than he was before. Thug just has to
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focus on making good music like that's people don't care.
They will only go if the music is good. Now,
if the music sucks, people are just going to continue
to say, like, Yo, you were the complete opposite of
what you were perceived as we thought you were this guy.
You're not that guy, and all of those rumors and
shit will just keep following him. People forget when the
music is good, m everything is fine. After that, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Make good music, and you know that's like the the
fix all but everything, it's not the fix all though.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
If you make good music, plenty of.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
People that make good music that people don't like. If
you have a certain sound, and your sound becomes dated
while you're away, or you become unlikable to the public.
It is good music is not enough these days. There's
plenty of people who make good music. There's plenty of
people who make good music, and y'all don't hear of them.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Who I'm talking about that had like the spot, I
had the moment, but like was a big name, big artist,
and then you know, went away for whatever reason and
then came back and made good music and nobody is
paying them attention, like have to.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I would have to security lists. I can't think about
that at the top of my head. But that's like
good I just don't feel like good music is enough.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, let's let's use Gunna as an example. Let's let's
not rewrite history. When that tape leaked of him saying
yes ma'am, everyone hated Gunna. That was the consensus on
the timeline. His old friends were tweeting ship, everyone in
the industry was unfollowing him. Let's not act like everyone
loved Gunna the way they do now. Everyone loves Gunner
(36:27):
because the music was good. He changed the narrative right
away just because the music was great.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
We he changed everything.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
This Nigga's in shape.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
He five k runs through Central Park like he doing
all kinds of different ships.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But I feel like he was actually reformed by the
state of Georgia.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh yeah, he got he got a he got a
peek behind that wall, and it was like, Nigga, I'm
never going to.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But it wasn't the first one ever corrected by correction
kind of shit.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And all of the things that you're naming also contributed.
It wasn't just that the music was good. He had
a hit and the music was good. But Gonna, the
way that Gunna was marketed, the two shows that he did,
the fact that his looks changed and he changed up
his style, he got more into fashion, he lost weight,
he did all of those things.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah, but all of those things, like, it wasn't just
the music was good.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
All those things definitely help, but they won't matter unless
the music is good. If Gonna said, yes, ma'am, put
out shitty music and then got in shape like the
best he would be would be a fitness influencer. Of course,
the music.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
The music has to be good.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Okay, yes, so miss what I'm saying, I'm not saying
that if the music like it doesn't matter if the
music is. What I'm saying is the music has to
be good. But just because the music is good doesn't
mean that that will be enough. That doesn't automatically mean
that will be.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That fixes a lot though. Sometimes start when when you
drop a.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Joke, who decides?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Who decides what a banger is?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
And that's my thing, right, like, besides what a bad women,
there's some songs. I'm sure that you guys have heard
that in your head it's a banger. But if the
public doesn't perceive it that way, if it's not marketing
the correct way, if the kids don't if the kids
don't catch on to it or know that it exists,
it doesn't matter that the music is good because the
right people aren't hearing it and uplifting it, and the
time wasn't right. So that's why I said it doesn't
(38:17):
Sometimes it doesn't matter if the music is good.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sure, and I hear you on that. But also Gunna
capitalized on the moment no matter what, because of means
was good. All of us had our eyes on Gunner
because we wanted to see what he was going to say.
Everyone clicked that when he dropped that project, immediately because
we wanted it was the moment, what's gunn are about
to say? And we listened it was like, oh, this
is good, so we stayed with it. He capitalized on
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all of the eyes being on him. So at that point,
all you have to do is deliver music, because you know,
no matter what, everyone wants to hear, what you have
to say. Now Thug is in the same position. But unfortunately,
the moment that happened was a bunch of leaked jail
calls instead of music. All of our ears and eyes
went to that. Now he still is going to have
that moment. I don't think he should waste it on
seven minute apologies. I think he should focus on records
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that were actually going to fucking replay because all the
eyes are on Thub. We want to know what he's
going to do, and I feel like he's wasting those
moments on bullshit.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, I feel like those moments. I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Moment has passed, which one the moment where he should
have put out a banger, I feel like it's past.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I agree, But how he just he didn't really put
out shit. He didn't put nothing out except for this
this joint and then obviously the Jeffrey files that they
put out.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
But what I'm saying is, it's not about what has
put out.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I'm saying the moment, like, do you've let other things
eclipse the moment of you getting out of jail already,
Like that's you've let other than Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
But but he'll still have you still want to hear
his his music though, Like if he if he announces
he's putting out an album next month, people are going
to listen to it for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
But you know what I'm saying, they only what he
does because of his window.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
He got one shot.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
He missed the blow. I'm saying, a.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Top gun too, phenomenal. See when they had to drop
them that mission, the precisions. Thug got that type. He
got one shot.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
He has to hit. Mock Tai man.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He got one shot he got and he got it.
It gotta be a hit. It gotta be a hit.
If not, I don't know if people go back to it,
I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if they go
back to you know, he might have to find another
artist and just kind of like curate another you know,
upcoming artists and and and and go that route.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
But you know, it's it's just being honest.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Like, I think he turned a lot of people off
with a lot of these phone calls that are being
put out again, I think a lot of you know,
favors that he may have thought he was gonna have
coming home, And I think a lot of people are
gonna kind of turn the shoulder on him now. Like yeah,
because like I said, we didn't we didn't finish hearing
the tapes.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
There was more small phone calls coming like if it
went from artists couldn't wait to have the opportunity to
work with Thug again to I don't know if I
should Yeah, and to the Maris's point too, with the
like of with this one shot, yes, he has a window.
People are gonna pay attention. But if it's just average
because he's become so unlikable, then you don't get a
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second chance. After that, a likable person sometimes gets a
second chance. An unlikable person, people are going to go
in to listen, but if it is not undeniable, they're
still gonna be biased in your head of I don't
like this person.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I know what I know what might help. I think
I got it. Okay, Thug got it do to Ayahuasca.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Oh, you mean like for the music or help like
his life.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Just life.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I think that's gonna unlock a whole other thing for him. Yeah,
I think if Thug do to Ayahuasca, he's gonna be
all right.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I wouldn't know. I would love to be able to
watch and see what is in Thug's head during in Ayahuasca.
I would love to just be able to be on
that journey with him. Just watch, just watch it, like
I'm just a passenger, a passenger on the trip. Like
I gotta don't do to Ayahuasca. He's gonna drop a classic.
You know what he should do? He should do the
(42:06):
ayahuasca and live streaming like the livestream marathons. He should
do the week of Ayahuasca and yeah, the live stream
should never leave. He should go to Costa Rica. Go
to Costa Rica.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Go to a nice like village, you know what I mean,
get your own villa type of thing. Get the shaman,
have the shaman come in. Yeah, live stream the whole
ayahuasca experience and then watch the music.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Watch watch, watch, watch what happens to the music after
that and kle this is copywritten, so don't go rent
a house and get Drew ski in. Every celebrity in
the world, and all you guys do ayahuasca in the basement.
Now they could do it. We just got to be
thirty days of ayahuasca with all our favorite celebrities in
Kay's house.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So Jake Paul and Tank Davis is the next fight?
November fourteen.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yep. I mean, I have no backbone. I want to
boycott this, but I'm a thousand per second to watch.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You have to watch, You have to gotta watch. That's
his fight.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I don't know where I land on you. I think,
I mean, obviously Tank is the favorite, but I mean,
I don't know. Man, I don't want to say it all.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
What happens, What happens if he loses Tank, he ain't.
We have to have a different Jake Paul convers We
keep having to have new Jake Paul conversations because he
keeps beating people.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
No, he not he not he not, he not being Tank.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
We say that every time.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
He's not being Tank. I mean, like I was on
when they when they first announced his fight. I was
kind of like, you know, Jake Pole's obviously the bigger guy.
He can you know, he hit I guess he could
say he hits hard. I don't know if we can
say that he can hit Tank hard like. I don't
know if Tank is going to be affected by how
Hardy hits. But yeah, no he's not. Tank is not
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losing that fight.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
This is why this is a simulation. This all started
with Nate Robinson. Yeah, it started with Nate Robinson and
then it got to Floyd and Mike Tyson and now
Tank and his Prime. What the fuck is going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Man, I mean it's boxing. It's entertainment. Man, let's make
it entertainment.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I guess we can stay in uh the boxing realm.
But more on the battle wrap side. Did you watch
Murder Mook and Hitman Holler over the weekend? Well? I did, man,
I did.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Shout out to Mook, show me muk is you know
it's one of the goats man.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Well, shout out to the Takeover Battle League because this happened.
I think it happened Saturday in Houston, right, yeah? Or Friday, Yes, Saturday,
and it was out by Sunday night. If Smack had
this battle, we would get it in spring twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yes, I get it right, right before the Tyson Mayweather fight.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Like I used to hate when they would announce it,
and I was like, well, I can't go to the battle,
so let me not even get excited because I don't
have to wait six months to see all this shit.
I don't even think Summer mat the last Summer Mantis
has come out yet. Yeah, and we're going to going
in the fall like Summer Madness with that shit would
happen in August. We get that ship in December, so
shout out to that league or keeping up with the
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times where we want shit the moment we see it.
So I like that they turned it around. I like Hitman.
How they don't get me wrong, Like, as far as
one of the A listers, as far as battling goes
in the battle rap history, he's the most basic A
lister to me. Basically, I'm not saying I'm not in
any way saying Hitman is trash, but out of all
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of his peers, the people that you would compare him to,
he's the most basic primer. And I think that showed
in this this Mook battle like it showed showed his
ass when he was rapping next to Mook.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Well, I don't know, I mean is that that's not
really a knock on because you're.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
With battle rap.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's it's you know, from obviously with somebody like Muk
has been battle rapping since before it was like I'm
not saying he was like literally walking to different neighborhoods,
different blocks, battling whoever. Like he Mook comes from that
before it was so performative as it is now Like
now battle rap is a.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Little more performative.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
It's a little more like, you know, spoken word, kind
of like it's a performance.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
But I feel like Sirius, Jones and Mouke were actually
kind of the ones that started that to where we
even get hit Man. I just think they all did
it with real intricate schemes that sounded basic. You can
still perform it, but they're they're rapping rapping. Hitman says
cool shit, but it's like straight basic, which is fine
because he's clearly won a bunch of battles and I
(46:28):
think he's great. But I think that's why he was
probably so successful on Wild Out, why it's so funny.
It's just just basic, right in your face. Here you
go a car car bar dar like just there you go. Yeah,
But I think that, you know, moll real schemes like that. Yeah,
but Moke is he's just different.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I think when you when you somebody that again, you
just you're just from a different era in this battle
rap thing. I think that it's hard to beat guys
like that because you know, the element is not as
you know, it's just not is as tough as it
once was, like when you used to battle rap and
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go on somebody's block and stand in a circle on
the sidewalk and like to come from that, and then
now we're on stage and it's just like it's like
that's easy for moo Like that's not that's not a
tough environment for him, Like that's a more curated, safe,
you know, like environment for him to go in there
and do what he does. Like hit Man, I mean,
(47:25):
I think he comes from that as well. He was
obviously after Moove, but you know, Hitman has had his
years of performing well in the battle rap. But I
think I just think it's different. It's just different levels
when it comes to guys like like like like Mooing
and Lux and those guys, it's just a different you know,
like you're gonna look different standing in across from those
guys because they just cut different when it comes to battle.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Rap Anyway, Again, I wasn't saying, as you said, not
like a slight to him, because I think he's crazy.
Least he should be talked about with the peers that
he's talked about. He's proven that he has a resume
for that. But it just I don't know this one.
I thought it was it was three to zero. And
with the information, with the information that Hitman had in
(48:09):
the third rounds, especially somebody like Mouk who's been in
this for so long, you thinks we've heard every skeleton
that he has in his closet. With the information, I
feel like hit Man made it so basic and didn't
deliver it well that it didn't even matter, which is crazy.
And on top of that, I do applaud him for
thinking the battle Wrap world cares about domestic violence like they.
(48:36):
I don't think this is the arena where this is
going to hit the way you think is going to hit. Like, No,
that's that's crazy. And granted, if any of that is true,
down to the we'll say grape so we don't get
demonetized the grape in college that got him kicked out
beating up his wife, beating up his daughter. Yeah, that's
(48:58):
fucking nuts. If any of that true, I just will
care about it on the Twitter tamline m hm the
battle that side. Yeah, that didn't even move anyone in
the crowd on stage.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
No this ain't.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
This ain't the place.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah they didn't. They didn't care about that.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I mean, I salute Himan saying I'm that whole thing together,
and you know, for sure, scheme and everything like that,
you know that's that takes skill. But it just didn't
land the way I thought hit Man thought it would land.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
And what's so fun? And salute to the Battle Rap Committee.
I'm not saying all you guys don't care about domestic violence.
But if you go look at Mass last round against Hollow,
when he was talking about how Hollow schemed his man's
out of the T shirt company and all that, that
whole crowd was like, you're foul, You're fucked up, you
foul all this ship. They care about scheming your man
(49:52):
out of money, not beating up women.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
No they don't.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
You have to think about what. Yeah, it just didn't land.
What this arena is?
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Well, I think that moved. He definit I performed them
all three rounds, so I think it was three. Move
went crazy, Yeah, moving outperforming. I don't know if it's
anybody left for Moove the battle at this point, like
who else is Like guys like Mooke and Lugs, it's
like who who do they battle?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Gotta wait for the the younger guys to get better
and have a longer resume so they can even get
in that room. But yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, it's like it's nobody.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It's you know, I'm just mooking daylight. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yeah, nah, I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
But either way, shout out to us, what does it takeover?
Shout out to that platform. They definitely turned that, turned
that a vent around uh in less than a day.
So that was dope to get that. Get that battle
last night to watch that. Shout out to Move and
hit Man. No, they they both of them put on
a great you know, showing of skill and and and
word play and things like that. But Moocas is different. Man, Mucas,
(50:55):
he's a go. He's top five when it comes to
battle rap. I think that's solidified now. I know guys
like to argue that and you know say that he's
not I don't know why they would even think that,
but maybe my New York bias.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
But Mook is definitely wanting to go when it comes
to Battle rep Oh for sure.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I feel like we have to give Maul some flowers here.
I mean, it's no secret that his brother and his
crew created the term pause, and then Maul took the
torch and very bravely in twenty twenty five, was one
of the only people that when you say something that
has nothing to do with sexuality, he says, that's because
you're gay. And then the torch was passed back to
(00:27):
Dame in the crew. You earned like, this is a legacy.
This is a legacy of homophobia that I think is
just incredible that now they're taking your phrases. Who's making them?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm homophobic?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh you know, I don't think you're homophobia. Did you
watch this, Dame Dash and Charlota Magne.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I watched it three times. This is the greatest show
on earth right now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Let me say Breakfast Club as well, because they were
all there. This is probably the first interview I've watched
twice in maybe five Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't watch anything.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Other than like maybe a movie or a series when
you're talking about interviews and things like that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I watched clips and things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But this, uh, this Dame Breakfast Club interview, it was
just another one to add because I think every time
he's done it this it's a classic.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't think he's ever done a breakfast club interview
in it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He was the greatest breakfast club desography of all time.
When he put out the first one, it was like,
how could he ever top that?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah? Yeah, no, this one, we.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Didn't know what we had coming.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So what exactly happened for the people that haven't watched
it because I only seen a clip. In the clip
I saw with Charlemagne saying raiseja, hen if you think
Dame is broke, and I was screaming, I'm like, yo,
what the fuck is going on in this interview?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But I didn't watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, that was after an hour and a half of
things being off the rails, and anytime Charlamagne said anything,
Dame would say, well, that's because you're gay. So then
Charlemagne at some point started to get not frustrated, he
played into it well and was like, ray ja, if
you think Dame's broke, And then Dame said, raise your
hand if you think Charlamane is gay.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
This was one of the crowds, Oh, I thought you
was telling the room. Yeah, before we get.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Into this, I will say, I apologize with some of
my Charlomagne hate of the Complex list. Yeah, this could
put you at number one after this fucking ef This
is the greatest shit I've ever seen in my life. Yeah,
because even like before when Envy and Charlemagne, trying to
talk or argue with Dane is one of the hardest
(02:34):
things on earth. So the way they handled it of
like really playing into it made it one of the
greatest interviews I've ever seen in my entire life. But
where do we even begin. Nothing was covered. I just
want to make that clear. We got no answers on anything,
No real questions were asked. Dame became a chairman in
the middle of calling somebody that has been on Revolt Gay.
(02:56):
Everything was insane. He was standing up, he was I
was like, how is the mic even still picking up?
He's running laps around the table. It was the crazy
little thing I've ever seen. It was cool because Dame
he went up there, well he had announcements. We don't
know how true those announcements are, but he had announcements.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And he wanted he wanted to use that as an
opportunity for you know, Charlemagne or Envy to say things
that they may have said about Dame when he wasn't there,
like okay, let's let's talk about it now. And Dame,
you know, he started it with, you know, I'm not
going to get upset. I'm not going to yell, so like,
you know, you're not going to trigger me, Like, but
just don't cut me off. Let me answer so that
(03:36):
you can understand what I'm saying. So he went up
there with the right energy. He went up there with
the energy to kind of like answer any you know,
things that they may have been saying about him, you know,
saying he's broke and you know whatever whatever you know
they may have been saying. It's like okay, So Dan
was trying to explain, like if I've been paying two
hundred and fifty thousand a year in child support for
the last however many years, is that person broke?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Like these are the things that you know.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So day he went up there trying to teach them
and say, you know, y'all don't know because y'all are
stuck in his box and it's coughing every day, so
y'all don't know what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Y'all don't know business.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So it started as trying to shed light on some
of the things that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
They may have been hearing about Dame.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
In so many ways, I think that you and I
both know some of the things that Dame is doing
legally to where it's like, okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We get it, we understand. So he was giving away
a little too much on that do.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So you know, it's like we understand. But I think
he went up there just to have a come. But
then in Dame fashion, it has to be entertaining, and
it has to be you know him, you know, talking
shit about somebody in the room, like snapping on him.
It has to That's Dame, That's who he is. And
it made for a great another classic Dame Dash Breakfast
Club interview. Now, some of the things he was saying,
(04:53):
you know, his announcements with the chairman.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Thing and all, you know, revolt.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
You know, then I guess the President voles when I
came out and said that that wasn't true. We don't
know if he's saying it's not true meaning it's not happening,
or it hasn't happened yet. Maybe there are talks of
it happening, but as of I guess still today, I
don't think that they've come out of may release a
statement saying that he is the chairman.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So again, because so much dancing and manipulation was happening
throughout the entire interview, he briefly said, which I don't
know how to fully interpret it. He was saying that
he has a certain amount of time to to buy it.
I guess like he was the chairman, but there's only
a window where he has he has to make a
(05:37):
choice of whether he's acquiring this or not. Yeah, so
I guess officially he wouldn't be, but the it was offered,
so if he wants to be, he could be. I'm
not going to sit here and try to explain it
because I didn't fully understand. Yeah, but when they came
out and said that was all false, I was like,
I went back to that part, and that's where I
think he was explaining, like he has a window and
(06:00):
if he wants to take it, he can take it.
If he doesn't, then he's going to move on. And
I think he may have just taken like when you
put when your house is in escrow. I think he
may have took an escro role at Revolt as the chairman,
not officially, just so he could get back at Cam publicly.
And I don't think he will be taking that revolt
chairman Joe. I think that was all just a play
(06:23):
to be able to go to breakfast club and say Cam,
I'm your boss now.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I thought he was gonna have way more smoke for
envy outside of the first one. Envy was the one
on Instagram last week in front of all his cars,
like this is what not being a boss gets you.
After Dame had filed chapter eleven, I thought he was
gonna come with envy smoke. I didn't know he was
going to be calling charlat Mane gay.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
For two hours he fought chapter eleven and chapter seven,
Chapter seven, I'm sorry, but classic.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
How do you argue with somebody when because even towards
the end, Charlottine tried to get it back on at
least subject do you argue with someone and when you
ask a valid question the only response they have at
that point is it's because you're gay. The Funny Show
in the beginning they were cutting Dame off, but then
(07:13):
they stopped, and then Dame would ask them a question
and they try to answer me, like stop cutting me off,
Like you just asked me a question. I'm answering your question.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That though, that's a classic classic Breakfast Club one thousand,
Like the first I saw a clip first and I said,
oh no, I gotta watch Like I can't. I can't
just watch clips. I have to watch it because I
knew just that energy that Dame had and that clip
that I was watching him calling Charlamagne gay.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I was just like, oh yeah, this is another classic
about that have one.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And this is why you just can't argue with anybody
from uptown because they have this strategy and you do
it too, where you get other people involved in the
room that want nothing to do with it, and then
they sit there awkwardly. Like when he was arguing with
Charlot Magne. He went over to jests Jess hadn't said
(08:03):
a fucking word yet. I forgot exactly what it was,
so I use an example, Jess, is he gay? Yes?
Or no? Is he gay? And Jess is like, I'm not.
I don't. Dudes from uptown, that's how they argue in rooms.
They just bringing other people and yo yes or no,
like Ue, I'm not in this, I have no. Don't
(08:25):
try to use me to prove your point and then
when you do that, they're like, see see he thinks
he thinks the same thing.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, well, Envy said he thought Charlomagne was gay too,
though he just said I think he's kind of gay too.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So I think Envy was being like funny, like that's
his co host, Like that's like if about one.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Of us, Like, well, I mean you are and you
are too, nigga, Now.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What you can't steal that, James? You not like you
want me to convince you that he's not gay? You
not like you want me to convince it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, no, no, it's not that you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You can't do that because you're actually gay, Like that's
that's on wreck what gay? Like are you trying to
recruit me? Like I don't Rord' is not on record
doing gay ship, Like, don't do that. Don't even start that.
I'm not on record or offering because.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Y'all because at one time I did get a lot
of pussy and I must have been gay at that time.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
No, no, any type of pussy like you really and
I wanted to say, am I had Rory? You wasn't
getting that type of pussy that we talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Like you wasn't and you wasn't like in a see.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We were saying, like when you're in a relate, a
healthy relationship and you just can't stop.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Oh no, we got from the relationship part. Then we
were just going into just getting mad pussy, like if
you just funk a lot and like run through girls,
you're gay.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yes we did not say that, but okay, we left it.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We were talking talking about relations you're just cheating on
your girl, like serial cheater.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now I'm saying, just like ha fase on tour.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, no, no, that's not the same.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Different city like we're saying, you have you just have
a queen. Just savor as Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
We've all been there. I love Miss Tennessee, love her,
Miss I wonder say she's doing in life.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But yeah, this.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Breakfast club interview though, was definitely a definitely want for
the red. But Dame has I'm people say what they want.
Dame has the ability to like sit on a platform
and like you know, I guess go viral whenever he wants.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He has that.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
He's he's that type of personality is that he's you know,
he speaks about he says whatever the fuck he wants
to say, he's not apologetic about what he wants to say,
and then he says shit like I'm the chairman of
Revolt and people are just like the Revolts, says you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Like and then he calls them. He posted on his
Instagram and says, this is a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
So it's like, you know, anybody that has the ability
to do that, you know, then this is people are
gonna watch it. People love that type of ship where
it's just like, yo, this dude is crazy. But Dame
is not crazy. Dame is very intelligent. His methods and
you know, the way he goes about things are a
little unconventional, but he's had success in being unconventional, so
(10:57):
that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I just think the fact that he was up there
and you know it kind of got a little little
tension between him and Charlamagne is what kind of made
that whole thing like, oh no, I got to watch it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
But I mean they both handled it very well because
it could have went left. And I liked how both
of them had that understanding because even when Dame was like,
I could punch in your face right now, you would
do nothing. I would never do that, but you're feminine
like you're you were proud of running, I'm proud of
staying and get my ass.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
You're gay. Damn you got to do the gay math
you ran. I wouldn't, Yeah, you gay.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Caron was being respectful because he was asked once, hey,
her boyfriend's here, please don't get it, and then he
kept doing it like that was DDG. Didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
No, he didn't do that. It wasn't It wasn't a
disrespectful thing.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
So I love that Cam did this. I have two
comments on it.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Okay, Well, from what I see that people.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Are comment on, the number one thing that I'm seeing
that people are commenting on is they're saying that, well,
Cam started talking shit once Adrian was gone, called him
a junkie and was popping shit. But when he was there,
he said, you know, it's much love my brother, respect
to you, thanks for coming by, like I love you.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You know Adrian could fight right like you know He's like.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
No, I'm aware.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I listen.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'm commenting on what people are on the internet. The
backlash that I saw Cam get right, how would y'all
have handled that scenario? You don't have to use me
as an example, but how would you guys, they were.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Heading on Peage.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
How is the agent Bruno comes in here, he's flirting
with Peach and asking him to stop because Page is the.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Heterosexual have handled that scenario in the same way.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
But ad yo, bro, you gotta clearly Adrian wasn't in
the most clearest of minds.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
He looked like he probably was hanging out.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It was fight, just coming off a fight weekend in Vegas,
like he probably was a little in tox skateated, hungover, partying.
So he and it looked like Adrian didn't even know
he was gonna be on the shovel because he was like,
oh yeah, y'all good, like y'all, y'all got me, because
he like he just came in. Because I don't know
if people know, but the studio is in the lobby
of a hotel casino.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So, like if you've ever been in Vegas, they have
all the restaurants stores, it's just like that. It's just
that it's a studio and people walking by, you guys,
when they're recording, you can like walk by and see
camp Mace recorded. So I think Adrient happened to just
be in the hotel and was like, you know, just
popped in. But I don't think because if you look
at the very beginning, I don't think he knew that
he was going to be they were going to be
(13:23):
recording and he was gonna be on the show. And
that's why Cam paid him because it was like, yo,
just come on, hop on real quick to fight just
you know happened this weekend. Yeah, we just wanted to
just talk about the fight real quick. But you know,
Adrian was a little hungover, little you know, might have
been on you know, just a different cloud at the moment.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And he's an asshole. It's okay to say that.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well yeah, I mean put that in there as well,
and just you know, just the energy that he was,
you know, showing stat baby was a little flirtatious, a
little awkward, a little weird, and her boyfriend is there
actually you know, like he's present, and Cam was like, yo,
like try to give him the cool like yo, chill bro,
like you know what I'm saying, like you, And then
(14:05):
it just got it got to a point where it
was like this is too weird, like and it's not.
It doesn't make no sense for you to keep sitting here,
like we can't even every time we ask you a question,
this is what you start, like, Yo, you are so beauty.
It's like all right, like we're not gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
So Cam was writing what he did and the way
he handled it, but.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I think the you know, what he said after Adrian
left was a little unnecessary, like calling him a junkie
and all of that. I think that was a little unnecessary,
Like he could have just left it at you know,
thank you for coming, paid him for his you know.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
This time, I think Kim was pissed off. Though he
was pissed, I think he was pissed off. I think
like when he was talking he might have meant what
I mean. Obviously he meant what he said, but you know,
when you upset, I think Kim was really pissed off.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
And I think the mortal about it.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Kim knew he was was twisted, he knew he was drunk.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Anybody you know that look, And I'm sure they were
having a conversations before they started recording. You could tell
when somebody this nigga he twisted and I think you
know that was it. But I just again, I think
he could have just left it on Yo, thank you
for your time.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
You know what I'm saying. If you want to wait,
wait for us outside. Cool.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
He didn't have to get into yo fucking junkie. This,
that and the third like he didn't have to do that.
That was a little or if you're gonna do it, like,
don't let it. Don't let that see the light of day. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, like, make sure they cut that, like,
don't let.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
That ain't but y'all know that ain't it ain't up.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, but it's again, say it while he's in
the room.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I mean, listen, if you're gonna say it, I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
If you're gonna say it, say it while he's like, yo,
get out the room. You're fucking junkie, Like get out
of here. If it's that, if that's the energy, then
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
But again I just think that you know, Cam handled
handled it professionally.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
At first.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It was like stood up a stat baby la yo
fo bro listen, gotta let you go, thank you for
your time.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Professional. You gotta suit on. Cam got shoes on.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He kept the professional hard bottoms. You know, he's sliding
all over the place. He kept the professional but it's
aging brow at the same time, like niggas ain't gonna
just put their hands on aging bro. That's not gonna happen.
Niggas is going to sleep the average niggas going.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
He could be on every sentence like.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Terrence Crawford and I could talk like that, like know
what I'm saying. Like Cam can't talk like that to
Agent Bron because you know obviously it goes somewhere don't
need to go. And I thought Cam did a great job,
was very professional. I would have loved to see him
just leave it there, keep a professional.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Would'a Would y'all do that for me?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Kicking nigga out here? Oh?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Cam handled that better than I would like.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
If it was that type, I would be like, yo, Bro,
like come on my nigga, like and I'm not paying you.
I thought that was super honorable with Cam did like
he peeled off. He peeled off for him. It was
like I was real. I was like, Okay, I wouldn't
have did that. It's just like nigga, I didn't get it.
We didn't get what we wanted to get. Like it's
like you in here for with the marriage tone. Yo,
you are so like bro, we're talking about Terrence Crawford
(17:04):
and Canelo and you, Sidney keep talking about demarriage. I
didn't realize you was that pretty, Like, oh my god,
you are.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, we've never had We've never had a disrespectful girl.
Go ahead, Roy, We've never had any disrespectful guest. He
that guest flirt with me, but not that bad.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
He was on his Broadway Joe naming shit. Remember on
the sidelines when he was talking to the ESPN reporter
and asked a question and he's like, you say, was fried?
And then she asked like a real question about like
the Jets organization and everything, and he goes, I could
care less about the team struggling. I want to kiss you. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, he was on Joe Namath was on a thousand.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
That's like, I feel my thing.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He was cooked. Watch Chad play. Impresses me the same
thing and presses.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Them What does it mean to you now when the
team is struggling.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I want to kiss you. I couldn't care less about
the team struggling. I want to kiss you huge.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
She definitely closed that out real quick, like all thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I wish I love jokes. I wish men understood how uncomfortable,
like I wish I was wrong. Feel how uncomfortable that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Makes Cam kicked them out.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, but I mean, like, yes, it makes everybody in
the room uncomfortable, But how it feels for women like
that ikey feeling we get, especially when we're trying to
be professional because you're not a nigga on the street.
We can't just like walk away for you or say
fuck you. We're stuck like we can't move. And then
people on the internet were like, well, I don't understand
why Cam did all that. She was laughing, and I'm like, oh,
y'are uncomfortable. This is why y'all are so many men
(18:47):
are do accident or what they call accidental rape because
you don't know when women are on You don't know.
What I'm saying is when women don't exactly say no,
but their five is extreming no. It's like people don't
understand cues like body language, Like they don't get it.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
They have no perception of how uncomfortable are making somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, oh no, she she looked clearly uncomfortable and thinking
about her job, thinking about her man's probably on the
other side of the glass, like thinking about how she's
coming across with yeah, that's an awful situation. So I
saw that too, that Cam did it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
For the boy that Cam only did it because her
boyfriend was there and if her.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Boyfriend wasn't there, that was part of Cam said hey,
please stop doing that. Also, her man is here too,
and then he said my bad. And then again right
away like.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, people don't know Cam like his character and like
he definitely Caim definitely did that because he understood how
uncomfortable she was.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah, they don't play a ball stack like now.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Granted that the boyfriend being there, he said that he
was like, yo, like a boyfriend is but that was
some shit like like yo, Like I'm not saying I
wouldn't have did it. If her boyfriend was here, you
could flirt with us like yo. But like, aside from
her being an comfortable, her boyfriend is here, like nigga, chill,
like you bugging out right now.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Let me tell y'all something. First of all, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I don't watch that show, so I don't know if
this show's general consensus is that stat baby has a boyfriend.
Let me tell y'all something right now. If nobody knew
I had a boyfriend and a nigga was flirting with me,
and y'all go, yo, her boyfriend here, cut that out, yo,
What y'all don't Why y'all ain't gotta cut that out?
Like why y'all why I'm telling people my business? Why
y'all telling people who I got in the studio? Like
(20:26):
she would the fuck out? Just kick him out, you know, see.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because you're still trying to see that's your fucking probably no, no,
not fuck that because that's your problem. That is your problem. See,
you still trying to be one fit in the game.
One foout.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Sit your hot ass down, just sometimes like sit down.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
First of all, was understood, don't need to be explained.
That's number one number.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Try to give me these colloquialisms that all these holes
out here, you what's understood. If you ain't, it ain't tricking.
If you got it, that's the same ship. That's the same.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Ship, ya yo.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like keep nah, your boyfriend is here. Now you go
home and deal with the other nigga section like a word. Yeah,
now you deal with that. Yeah, damage controlled. Get your
PR person on the line, and you know what I'm saying,
get out of that.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But if your boyfriend is here.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Some pr easy, I'd be like, Kim just said that
because he wanted him to leave.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
That's easy.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Pr Cam just said that because he wanted immediately want
nobody there for me.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
It's easy.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
PR Yeah, that's easy. You see that, y'all wouldn't be
doing this crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
No, I'm just saying if I was a terrible person,
that is what I would say, but not me.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
But you think that would work? Yes? Why do you
think that work?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I see it would work on certain guys, but it
can't work on a guy like myself that has been
a side nigga.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well me personally, I tell everybody that everything that is
set on this podcast is entertainment. Don't believe anything that's
said on this podcast. I say that the moment a
nigga slides in my DMS and he's talking about a clip,
everything set on that podcast is for entertainment everything.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But if a guy is dating you that has.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Been a side dude before knowingly was a side dude
like him, and the girl understood, like so he ain't
know his worth Like yo, yeah, I got at a boyfriend,
but you know we could so now and being a
side dude, you can pick up on certain things. Now
you're dating another woman if she's not being honest with
you and telling you exactly what it is, you know
because you can. You know the pattern, You know the
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things you can like, Oh okay, but.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Why are you using your history of being a piece
of shit person with a scarlet ai your chest?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Why are you using that against me?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Would I need a piece of shit?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I was the side dude, like knowingly, like, okay, I'm
not trying.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
To you know, you're still a piece of ship. He
was providing a service the.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Same way a girl who sleeps with a nigga that
has a ye.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
But there's a girl I didn't have a girlfriend. I
was a side dude. I didn't have a girlfriend. Yes,
but you knew she was in a relationship.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Your APU weren't engaging and cheating and dishonestly, you too
are a.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, I don't know, homeboy, That ain't my that ain't
my bitch across the barrier. That ain't my business. That's
like with you. I don't got nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But I'm just saying, and being in that position in
life before and playing that role, you understand now when
you date other women when it's like they being moving.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Funny, it's because you was laying down next to a liar.
Doesn't mean that everybody you lay next to is a liar.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm not saying everybody's a liar. I would never say that.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I'm just saying when certain things happen and the woman
starts moving a certain way, those that know no.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It's like, okay, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So when you yo, chill, don't flirt with the marathon
my boyfriend right here, and then you go home and
be like, no, I don't know what I'm saying. It
wasn't no Whiteare that.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
The dude that you doing that?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Explaining to us ever played the side due before he
knows you're lying?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Not exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That's what I'm trying to say, Like, don't pull out this.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I'm pull out.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You really think I'm stupid enough to let them lead
that ship in there? If I really had a side, Nigga,
come on now, you.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yo, you want those baby? I didn't even know you
was like, yo, baby, d I did not know. I
knew you wasn't ship, but I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I didn't know he was like the diarrhea though, Like
that's the that's the wet ship, you the wet like
loose ship what like?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And you know, look him in his face like, yo,
what you mean like oh you want of those?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
No, baby D, get out of that. Stop don't do that.
I don't baby D. Do not do yo. Yo, do
not be that woman. Baby D, do not be that woman.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I'm just saying, we're talking, we're having like what ifs hypothetical.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Of course baby D is the character on the show.
That's what. And there's DeMars exactly baby D. And it
remains to me seen with Demeris it's definitely the person
that if her dude questions like, yo, who is this guy,
she would say, if I was cheating, you would never
know who it was. Meanwhile, that's the guy. It's him
the whole time. Who the fuck Scoopy? You found him immediately?
(24:58):
Who else would it have been? Like?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
That is the crazy that when y'all don't talk about
that enough as women, Like when y'all get past that
point in your life, like go back and be like, yeah,
I was tripping an I was on bullshit. Why y'all
don't never say when y'all was on bullshit? Like why
y'all just try to delete it like it never happened.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
No, we say, we mean but to our homegirls.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
No, say it to the nigga that you was calling
crazy for thinking that you was cheating on him with that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Do that.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
He's moved on, he's happy, he has a new family.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Why would I go back and say, Yo, by the way,
you were right about this, because now it's in his
brain again.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
He healed.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I'm gonna let him stay healed. That's maturity.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I'm not gonna get that off of my chest just
to relieve myself of that pressure.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like you're happy, I want you to stay happy.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Well, if you're at a girl, accuse you like pull
up an ig page or bring up a check and
be like, if we broke up today, you would go
right to her, And in your head you're like, well, yeah,
i'd be single. Yeah, yeah, No, it's a bit. I'm
not fucking her. But if we broke up today, yeah
I might, I might date her, Yes, I might date her. Yeah.
(26:00):
But I'm saying when women get that off, it's like say,
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's more so them speaking to the fact that you're attracted, sir,
you like her, That's what it is like that ship type.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
In a relationship, man or woman can find someone else attracted.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, it's okay, it's not. I didn't know. I didn't know.
It was a deeper, darker criminal link though.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I don't cheat, though I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
All four grandparents are gone, so there's no more to.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I can't use that no more. I got like one
of y'all got to die for me to get that off.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Oh my god, just go cheat.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I don't want to die.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, I don't don't want to be the blood sacrifice.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That I would never do one if if you had
to die a blood sacrifice for me to cheat, like,
I would literally make it a fair. I wouldn't just
cheat one night off your death. That's critical off your death.
I could get like a whole second family.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you think you could ever be one faithful?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah? Yo, yes, I'm just what.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Do you mean currently?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Are you good?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yo? Niggas is not I'm asking. I'm just asking do
you think every day I promised? I wasn't framing it
like that.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm literally asking, like, do you think that you could
one day? It was like, yo, I'm not, it's completely
like clipped.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
This is my yes, I've been in Yes, I've been
in faithful relationship.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Nigga, have you can you?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You see the different sides of this room. Though Samara
said I'd be her blood sacrifice so she could cheat
for one night, I said I'd suck a dick to
keep her alive.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
The difference because you're gay, that's because you're gay.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's honorable. No, that's honor. No more of the Harlem
phrases coming out the coming. Does he takes care of
his family, that's yeah. But come out the cloud and
say I'm gay. Just say it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Don't be out here pretending you not. That's what Dane
was saying. You don't like when you pretend that you're
not gay. Nothing wrong with being gay, but say you're gay.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
In those that context, I'm saving her life. It's jack
or die. I'm sorry, Okay, listen to me. So to me,
that's like the honorable thing to do, the same way
Danane was saying, you know, hustle for your last name,
not your first, like you put your family every sold
I think that's the same way I'm keeping Demarus alive.
(28:21):
Like I'm making those sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean, listen, the.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Fact that you. You know, why why would you bring
that back up? Like I thought that was funny because
you just said you'd kill me to go cheat, and
I'm trying to keep you alive.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But I'm just saying, like usually when we say some
ship where it's like damn, like you know, like I
want you to know how much I love y'all. So
I'm gonna say this, but we're just never gonna talk
about it again, like you bought the ship back up?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
You curious?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Mmm, she's talking to you, Charla. Man, she's talking to you, charlat.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
What you're saying. In that scenario, I could just tag
Charlemagne and be like you like.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This more like this is your expertise. Yeah, I could
hire you. I could be your boss to you do this.
And Demeria stays alive. Oh my god, I guess we
have to stay on fights one more time. Young thug
fighting is his past.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Man. I miss my dog.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
So Thursday, when we was in the studio, Peage played
the record and.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I thought it was a joke. I thought it was
a AI.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, a seven minute AI record is crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean, I just thought it was that's a lot
of data.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I just like I don't know, man, I don't know
if we needed this. You made it through the whole record, yeah,
and a ninja patience, like that's crazy. You made it
through this record.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
This was just not good. It like the music wasn't good,
the rapping wasn't good. I mean, I understand the sentiment, like,
you know, it's like you apologizing to people that you
know are hearing things that you're saying about them affected
some relationships and things like that.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
I understand that sentiment. I don't know if we needed
a seven minute record saying that, like, just call these
dudes individually, send a text something like, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
We didn't need we didn't need this record.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, man, apology is changed behavior, and you should change
the song. This is this was bad. Yeah, this wasn't
this was I read the cliff notes, though, I see
he apologized to Mariah, to Drake, to Dwelt's. I just
don't really care. I think thug probably thinks people care
more than they really do because the Internet just wants
(30:49):
to make jokes. Nobody really cares.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Nobody cares about So I keep telling y'all, they just
showed us the UFO flying straight through a missile and
know we're talking about a young Thug apology record, Like
nobody cares about this. There are crazier things going on
that people are just ignoring. At this point, It's like,
what the fuck is happening.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I just think it's kind of crazy that this is
what it took for Thug to start putting out music,
because he's been quiet until all this shit leak. Now
he's putting out seven minute records. And I felt like
he just put out an apology record last week too
that we thought was ai and then a video came
out for it. So yeah, this is one of those
that I think we should just all move back.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But what does this mean for Thug? Like moving forward?
Like what does what does Thug sound like? What does
his music sound like? Obviously relationships are you know, strained
at this point. He probably doesn't have the relationships that
he once had, uh as far as in the industry
and other artists and things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
What is this me for Thug? Like what is this?
What is just how does this affect him?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I think it's it's very much a post four forty
four in Lemonade. I think we will get the Thug
and Mariaha scientists Everything is Love Part two, Like, I
think they'll do a joint album to like show solidarity.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Baby D, it might be over, bro, do you think
it's over for Thug? I Okay, let's clarify. I'm not
saying that I think that it's over for Thug. I
think it there's a possibility that Thug will never be
as big as he was, And I think that in
(32:31):
an eraror where and where people's it's hard to come
back and put out an album like anyway, like Gunna
is the exception out the rule. Once you've been you know,
going for a while, or like once you kind of
turn people off, it's hard. It's hard to come back
into invested to.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
What BABYD is saying, it's hard to come back just
if you just did a bit o come on Like
that's because now it's like, you know, so much has
change sound, you know, slang and things like that, and
just move forward faster that cadences like a lot of
things that have changed in music, So you're playing catchup
naturally when you go away and you got to do
(33:07):
a bit, But to now have relationships that you probably
once leaned on that are not there anymore, the relationship
you probably had that you leaned on creatively, you know,
while you're in the studio, like a lot of those
things are no longer available to you because you can't
even be around certain people anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You can't hang out with certain people anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So a lot has changed for Thug, just you know,
as far as life goes. So now you're talking about
creative creating and writing and you know, catching the vibe
and energy and you know a lot of that it's
things that people don't talk about that goes into making
great music. You got to catch that that right energy,
that moment, that pulse. It's a lot that goes you
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know that you don't really think about. That just kind
of happens when you're in that in that world that
I don't think Thug probably has at the at this
moment anymore. So you know, his sound is definitely gonna change.
What he what he talks about is gonna change, clearly.
So it's like, does his audience do they follow that change?
(34:15):
Do they follow that sound? Do they follow that new Thug?
Do they follow? Or does he have to is this
something where he has to literally just start from scratch
and rebuild rebrand, you know, kind of like pivot his
sound a little bit, like I think Thug is just
it's a lot of questions that he's probably happening with
his camp in his circle right now.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Everyone's gonna follow if it's good, like if Gonna. If
Gunna came out and the music he put out right
away was asked, the overall energy would be like, yo,
gun is a rat, fucking we don't support rats. But
it was good, so everyone followed suit, and Gunna is
probably bigger than he was before. Thug just has to
(34:57):
focus on making good music like that's people don't care.
They will only go if the music is good. Now,
if the music sucks, people are just going to continue
to say, like, Yo, you were the complete opposite of
what you were perceived as we thought you were this guy.
You're not that guy, and all of those rumors and
shit will just keep following him. People forget when the
music is good, m everything is fine. After that, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Make good music, and you know that's like the the
fix all but everything, it's not the fix all though.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
If you make good music, plenty of.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
People that make good music that people don't like. If
you have a certain sound, and your sound becomes dated
while you're away, or you become unlikable to the public.
It is good music is not enough these days. There's
plenty of people who make good music. There's plenty of
people who make good music, and y'all don't hear of them.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Who I'm talking about that had like the spot, I
had the moment, but like was a big name, big artist,
and then you know, went away for whatever reason and
then came back and made good music and nobody is
paying them attention, like have to.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I would have to security lists. I can't think about
that at the top of my head. But that's like
good I just don't feel like good music is enough.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, let's let's use Gunna as an example. Let's let's
not rewrite history. When that tape leaked of him saying
yes ma'am, everyone hated Gunna. That was the consensus on
the timeline. His old friends were tweeting ship, everyone in
the industry was unfollowing him. Let's not act like everyone
loved Gunna the way they do now. Everyone loves Gunner
(36:27):
because the music was good. He changed the narrative right
away just because the music was great.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
We he changed everything.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
This Nigga's in shape.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
He five k runs through Central Park like he doing
all kinds of different ships.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But I feel like he was actually reformed by the
state of Georgia.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh yeah, he got he got a he got a
peek behind that wall, and it was like, Nigga, I'm
never going to.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
But it wasn't the first one ever corrected by correction
kind of shit.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
And all of the things that you're naming also contributed.
It wasn't just that the music was good. He had
a hit and the music was good. But Gonna, the
way that Gunna was marketed, the two shows that he did,
the fact that his looks changed and he changed up
his style, he got more into fashion, he lost weight,
he did all of those things.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah, but all of those things, like, it wasn't just
the music was good.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
All those things definitely help, but they won't matter unless
the music is good. If Gonna said, yes, ma'am, put
out shitty music and then got in shape like the
best he would be would be a fitness influencer. Of course,
the music.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
The music has to be good.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Okay, yes, so miss what I'm saying, I'm not saying
that if the music like it doesn't matter if the
music is. What I'm saying is the music has to
be good. But just because the music is good doesn't
mean that that will be enough. That doesn't automatically mean
that will be.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
That fixes a lot though. Sometimes start when when you
drop a.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Joke, who decides?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Who decides what a banger is?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
And that's my thing, right, like, besides what a bad women,
there's some songs. I'm sure that you guys have heard
that in your head it's a banger. But if the
public doesn't perceive it that way, if it's not marketing
the correct way, if the kids don't if the kids
don't catch on to it or know that it exists,
it doesn't matter that the music is good because the
right people aren't hearing it and uplifting it, and the
time wasn't right. So that's why I said it doesn't
(38:17):
Sometimes it doesn't matter if the music is good.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Sure, and I hear you on that. But also Gunna
capitalized on the moment no matter what, because of means
was good. All of us had our eyes on Gunner
because we wanted to see what he was going to say.
Everyone clicked that when he dropped that project, immediately because
we wanted it was the moment, what's gunn are about
to say? And we listened it was like, oh, this
is good, so we stayed with it. He capitalized on
(38:43):
all of the eyes being on him. So at that point,
all you have to do is deliver music, because you know,
no matter what, everyone wants to hear, what you have
to say. Now Thug is in the same position. But unfortunately,
the moment that happened was a bunch of leaked jail
calls instead of music. All of our ears and eyes
went to that. Now he still is going to have
that moment. I don't think he should waste it on
seven minute apologies. I think he should focus on records
(39:05):
that were actually going to fucking replay because all the
eyes are on Thub. We want to know what he's
going to do, and I feel like he's wasting those
moments on bullshit.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah, I feel like those moments. I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Moment has passed, which one the moment where he should
have put out a banger, I feel like it's past.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I agree, But how he just he didn't really put
out shit. He didn't put nothing out except for this
this joint and then obviously the Jeffrey files that they
put out.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
But what I'm saying is, it's not about what has
put out.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I'm saying the moment, like, do you've let other things
eclipse the moment of you getting out of jail already,
Like that's you've let other than Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
But but he'll still have you still want to hear
his his music though, Like if he if he announces
he's putting out an album next month, people are going
to listen to it for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
But you know what I'm saying, they only what he
does because of his window.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
He got one shot.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
He missed the blow. I'm saying, a.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Top gun too, phenomenal. See when they had to drop
them that mission, the precisions. Thug got that type. He
got one shot.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
He has to hit. Mock Tai man.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He got one shot he got and he got it.
It gotta be a hit. It gotta be a hit.
If not, I don't know if people go back to it,
I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if they go
back to you know, he might have to find another
artist and just kind of like curate another you know,
upcoming artists and and and and go that route.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
But you know, it's it's just being honest.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Like, I think he turned a lot of people off
with a lot of these phone calls that are being
put out again, I think a lot of you know,
favors that he may have thought he was gonna have
coming home, And I think a lot of people are
gonna kind of turn the shoulder on him now. Like yeah,
because like I said, we didn't we didn't finish hearing
the tapes.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
There was more small phone calls coming like if it
went from artists couldn't wait to have the opportunity to
work with Thug again to I don't know if I
should Yeah, and to the Maris's point too, with the
like of with this one shot, yes, he has a window.
People are gonna pay attention. But if it's just average
because he's become so unlikable, then you don't get a
(41:10):
second chance. After that, a likable person sometimes gets a
second chance. An unlikable person, people are going to go
in to listen, but if it is not undeniable, they're
still gonna be biased in your head of I don't
like this person.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I know what I know what might help. I think
I got it. Okay, Thug got it do to Ayahuasca.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Oh, you mean like for the music or help like
his life.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Just life.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I think that's gonna unlock a whole other thing for him. Yeah,
I think if Thug do to Ayahuasca, he's gonna be
all right.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I wouldn't know. I would love to be able to
watch and see what is in Thug's head during in Ayahuasca.
I would love to just be able to be on
that journey with him. Just watch, just watch it, like
I'm just a passenger, a passenger on the trip. Like
I gotta don't do to Ayahuasca. He's gonna drop a classic.
You know what he should do? He should do the
(42:06):
ayahuasca and live streaming like the livestream marathons. He should
do the week of Ayahuasca and yeah, the live stream
should never leave. He should go to Costa Rica. Go
to Costa Rica.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Go to a nice like village, you know what I mean,
get your own villa type of thing. Get the shaman,
have the shaman come in. Yeah, live stream the whole
ayahuasca experience and then watch the music.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Watch watch, watch, watch what happens to the music after
that and kle this is copywritten, so don't go rent
a house and get Drew ski in. Every celebrity in
the world, and all you guys do ayahuasca in the basement.
Now they could do it. We just got to be
thirty days of ayahuasca with all our favorite celebrities in
Kay's house.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So Jake Paul and Tank Davis is the next fight?
November fourteen.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yep. I mean, I have no backbone. I want to
boycott this, but I'm a thousand per second to watch.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
You have to watch, You have to gotta watch. That's
his fight.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I don't know where I land on you. I think,
I mean, obviously Tank is the favorite, but I mean,
I don't know. Man, I don't want to say it all.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
What happens, What happens if he loses Tank, he ain't.
We have to have a different Jake Paul convers We
keep having to have new Jake Paul conversations because he
keeps beating people.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
No, he not he not he not, he not being Tank.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
We say that every time.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
He's not being Tank. I mean, like I was on
when they when they first announced his fight. I was
kind of like, you know, Jake Pole's obviously the bigger guy.
He can you know, he hit I guess he could
say he hits hard. I don't know if we can
say that he can hit Tank hard like. I don't
know if Tank is going to be affected by how
Hardy hits. But yeah, no he's not. Tank is not
(43:45):
losing that fight.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
This is why this is a simulation. This all started
with Nate Robinson. Yeah, it started with Nate Robinson and
then it got to Floyd and Mike Tyson and now
Tank and his Prime. What the fuck is going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Man, I mean it's boxing. It's entertainment. Man, let's make
it entertainment.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I guess we can stay in uh the boxing realm.
But more on the battle wrap side. Did you watch
Murder Mook and Hitman Holler over the weekend? Well? I did, man,
I did.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Shout out to Mook, show me muk is you know
it's one of the goats man.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Well, shout out to the Takeover Battle League because this happened.
I think it happened Saturday in Houston, right, yeah? Or Friday, Yes, Saturday,
and it was out by Sunday night. If Smack had
this battle, we would get it in spring twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yes, I get it right, right before the Tyson Mayweather fight.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Like I used to hate when they would announce it,
and I was like, well, I can't go to the battle,
so let me not even get excited because I don't
have to wait six months to see all this shit.
I don't even think Summer mat the last Summer Mantis
has come out yet. Yeah, and we're going to going
in the fall like Summer Madness with that shit would
happen in August. We get that ship in December, so
shout out to that league or keeping up with the
(45:01):
times where we want shit the moment we see it.
So I like that they turned it around. I like Hitman.
How they don't get me wrong, Like, as far as
one of the A listers, as far as battling goes
in the battle rap history, he's the most basic A
lister to me. Basically, I'm not saying I'm not in
any way saying Hitman is trash, but out of all
(45:22):
of his peers, the people that you would compare him to,
he's the most basic primer. And I think that showed
in this this Mook battle like it showed showed his
ass when he was rapping next to Mook.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Well, I don't know, I mean is that that's not
really a knock on because you're.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
With battle rap.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's it's you know, from obviously with somebody like Muk
has been battle rapping since before it was like I'm
not saying he was like literally walking to different neighborhoods,
different blocks, battling whoever. Like he Mook comes from that
before it was so performative as it is now Like
now battle rap is a.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Little more performative.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
It's a little more like, you know, spoken word, kind
of like it's a performance.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
But I feel like Sirius, Jones and Mouke were actually
kind of the ones that started that to where we
even get hit Man. I just think they all did
it with real intricate schemes that sounded basic. You can
still perform it, but they're they're rapping rapping. Hitman says
cool shit, but it's like straight basic, which is fine
because he's clearly won a bunch of battles and I
(46:28):
think he's great. But I think that's why he was
probably so successful on Wild Out, why it's so funny.
It's just just basic, right in your face. Here you
go a car car bar dar like just there you go. Yeah,
But I think that, you know, moll real schemes like that. Yeah,
but Moke is he's just different.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I think when you when you somebody that again, you
just you're just from a different era in this battle
rap thing. I think that it's hard to beat guys
like that because you know, the element is not as
you know, it's just not is as tough as it
once was, like when you used to battle rap and
(47:04):
go on somebody's block and stand in a circle on
the sidewalk and like to come from that, and then
now we're on stage and it's just like it's like
that's easy for moo Like that's not that's not a
tough environment for him, Like that's a more curated, safe,
you know, like environment for him to go in there
and do what he does. Like hit Man, I mean,
(47:25):
I think he comes from that as well. He was
obviously after Moove, but you know, Hitman has had his
years of performing well in the battle rap. But I
think I just think it's different. It's just different levels
when it comes to guys like like like like Mooing
and Lux and those guys, it's just a different you know,
like you're gonna look different standing in across from those
guys because they just cut different when it comes to battle.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Rap Anyway, Again, I wasn't saying, as you said, not
like a slight to him, because I think he's crazy.
Least he should be talked about with the peers that
he's talked about. He's proven that he has a resume
for that. But it just I don't know this one.
I thought it was it was three to zero. And
with the information, with the information that Hitman had in
(48:09):
the third rounds, especially somebody like Mouk who's been in
this for so long, you thinks we've heard every skeleton
that he has in his closet. With the information, I
feel like hit Man made it so basic and didn't
deliver it well that it didn't even matter, which is crazy.
And on top of that, I do applaud him for
thinking the battle Wrap world cares about domestic violence like they.
(48:36):
I don't think this is the arena where this is
going to hit the way you think is going to hit. Like, No,
that's that's crazy. And granted, if any of that is true,
down to the we'll say grape so we don't get
demonetized the grape in college that got him kicked out
beating up his wife, beating up his daughter. Yeah, that's
(48:58):
fucking nuts. If any of that true, I just will
care about it on the Twitter tamline m hm the
battle that side. Yeah, that didn't even move anyone in
the crowd on stage.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
No this ain't.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
This ain't the place.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah they didn't. They didn't care about that.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I mean, I salute Himan saying I'm that whole thing together,
and you know, for sure, scheme and everything like that,
you know that's that takes skill. But it just didn't
land the way I thought hit Man thought it would land.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
And what's so fun? And salute to the Battle Rap Committee.
I'm not saying all you guys don't care about domestic violence.
But if you go look at Mass last round against Hollow,
when he was talking about how Hollow schemed his man's
out of the T shirt company and all that, that
whole crowd was like, you're foul, You're fucked up, you
foul all this ship. They care about scheming your man
(49:52):
out of money, not beating up women.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
No they don't.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
You have to think about what. Yeah, it just didn't land.
What this arena is?
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Well, I think that moved. He definit I performed them
all three rounds, so I think it was three. Move
went crazy, Yeah, moving outperforming. I don't know if it's
anybody left for Moove the battle at this point, like
who else is Like guys like Mooke and Lugs, it's
like who who do they battle?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Gotta wait for the the younger guys to get better
and have a longer resume so they can even get
in that room. But yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, it's like it's nobody.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It's you know, I'm just mooking daylight. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Yeah, nah, I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
But either way, shout out to us, what does it takeover?
Shout out to that platform. They definitely turned that, turned
that a vent around uh in less than a day.
So that was dope to get that. Get that battle
last night to watch that. Shout out to Move and
hit Man. No, they they both of them put on
a great you know, showing of skill and and and
word play and things like that. But Moocas is different. Man, Mucas,
(50:55):
he's a go. He's top five when it comes to
battle rap. I think that's solidified now. I know guys
like to argue that and you know say that he's
not I don't know why they would even think that,
but maybe my New York bias.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
But Mook is definitely wanting to go when it comes
to Battle rep Oh for sure.
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