October 5, 2025 • 51 mins
This week on New Rory & Mal, Bad Bunny was chosen as the Super Bowl Halftime performer and middle America loses their minds, Mal thinks Doja Cat should be in the same conversation with Nicki Minaj, Rory & Mal recap the Cardi B and Nicki Minaj Twitter war, and Mal gets vulnerable about his ego and his thoughts on "revenge" #volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When I came out of the theater last night, I think, uh, actually,
my homebok while we was in the theater, I guess
he checked his phone and was like, oh shit, bad
Bunny got the super Bowl. I thought he was lying.
I was like, what, it's a bad Bunny. Was surprising
to you, Not that it was surprising to me because
news that came out that Taylor Swift turned it down
(00:25):
and Adele turned it down. Yes, So I was laughing
my homeboys about that. I was like, yeah, you know
when you're when you're a big dog, you turned down
the super Bowl. You don't need the fucking super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Just talking ship and are the biggest dog?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well beneatho Beneito decided he.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Was where would you think Prince Prince would be?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, no, I mean it was it was jokes. It
was it was just ship talking. But once once Taylor
turned it down and Adele turned it down, it was
kind of like, well, damn, who's gonna So then you
obviously have to look at whoever is the biggest the
stars that's what they you know how they kind of
go by it. So it was bad Bunny. I thought
about it, but I didn't think the NFL or Rock
(01:06):
Nation would actually pull a trigger on it and do it.
I thought they would find somebody else and kind of
feeling that slide. I didn't know if Bad Bunny wanted
to even be a part of it, the Super Bowl thing,
but it makes sense after he just had the residency
in Puerto Rico, what he did down on the island,
which was incredible, you know, but I didn't think that
(01:27):
it would land on Bad Bunny after Adele and Tailor Turney.
He wasn't the first person I thought about. But now
that he is announced as to perform the Super Bowl,
it makes sense. I mean, he's one of the biggest
stars in the world.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So you thought right wing football was mad at Doctor
Dre and Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
This is going to be the most.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Racist halftime Twitter timeline you have ever seen in your life.
At this time, Bad Bunny was made comments about Ice. Also,
I think Bad Bunny would make more sense for me
FIFA just based off not only the popularity, but just
just the sport in itself and out in the nationalist
football is a very American thing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
This is going to be interesting. Well, Puerto Rico is
a territory of the US.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I fully understand, right, I just it's an interesting pick.
I like it.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I'm just telling you with the climate right now, this
was a crazy.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Pick, a bold move, but I think I can't wait
to see it a great time where it needs to.
I think it's the right move. He's the biggest pop
star in the world.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So yeah, Well it's interesting because the reason why he
didn't go on an American tour was because he was
in I guess concerned is the word. He was concerned
that ice would be at his shows, arresting.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Very fair assumption that that would happen without question. The
fact that there's people they go to home depots. You
don't think they go to the Bad Bunny show.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They're good. They would be waiting outside.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But it's not it's not interesting to you that somebody
that's here illegally, a migrant, could afford a bad Bunny
ticket in America?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
How you know? How you know how expensive bad Bunny
tickets are?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Do you know how much money of the guys standing
outside of lows and home depot pull in cash?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
No? I don't A good amount offered them, Like, yeah,
that ain't but that's just notice the big chicken tech
artists and be like, yo, I don't want to go
on a US tour because I'm afraid that ICE agents
might be at my shows arresting people.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yeah, and also not even all of them have to
be immigrants. They could be the ICE be fucking around
fucking with regular Spanish people, like like, they don't even
have to be immigrants, they be fucking They will arrest
you and then figure out the details later. Oh you're American,
Oh my bad. Oh you're a dreamer, Oh my bad.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, I don't think that's there's going to be a few.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's definitely happened plenty of times.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I don't know if that I don't know if that's happened,
but it has happened. The interesting part is the interesting
part is his show. His stage performance is incredible. For sure.
He puts on a better show than ninety percent of
the artist. So yeah, it will be a huge production.
It will be great, completely well deserved. I just think
it's a bold move that I'm not mad at.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's just for this year. We're going into next year. Yes,
that's a crazy pick.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then and then we all we know what it's
all about, you know, they're getting the big you know,
obviously the Latin community will tune in to the halftime show,
so the numbers are going to be incredible. And that's
all this is about. It's not so much about the
people in the stadium. It's not so much about the
people that's actually at the super Bowl, but more so
about how many people can we get to tune in
(04:34):
for halftime to push these commercials and things like that. So,
I mean, bad Bunny is you know, he has a huge,
huge global audience. He puts on a great show. He
has great music, great performer, greater entertainer. So, I mean
it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Is the NFL scripted? If somehow the Raiders go from
one to three and go on a Super Bowl run?
Why would that be script out of latinos? Are greater
spin Cowboys fans too?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
True? Chargers are doing pretty well forty.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Nine Ers fans?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Is that a thing with the Niners?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh you've never been to a nin game?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh yeah, huge?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Oh okay, huge? What's the Niners record?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I'm just trying to see if that scripted.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Three and one.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Charges three and one nine is three and one script
script is in?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's it's in the Bay Area. The Niners might be
in the game. Man, the Niners might be in.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
The Bowl, and all Latino experience, Oh my god, and
all Latino. Yeah, I'm curious how they're gonna not spend
per se, But like market the entire thing with Bad Bunny.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I'm just interested to see.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The same way they market you know, MODELO.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
It's the same, y'all have a large spanisha.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
No red being offensive?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
No, how am I know making sure it's not offensive.
I'm saying to market it the same mayey market anything
else that you don't have to.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
In Mal's defense, the image that Rock Nation did pick
looks like.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
A Corona commercial.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He was on the he was on the beach with
a fucking goal post, like.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You know, the Corona commercial or a silhouette of the
little hut in the palm tree.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It was the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's the same thing. It's bad money. That's that sells itself.
Good dope sells yourself. You know that Rory bad money.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's bad magic. It's grand name.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Bad Bunny's performing at Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Say, just watched Super Bowl. I don't know, Okay, it
might be the highest watched.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I don't think that's a bad take at all.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Nah, not more than not like us.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
All right, I'm not trying to wink that.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I will say, between the numbers of people that watched
the halftime show regardless, plus an entire new demographic that
may not watch it yet, this could be the highest
highest rated.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's not being Kendrick though, he's not nowhere he's gonna
beat Ketrick. No, he's not.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He's Yeah, I will go on the limits.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
He's probably gonna be Bruno, Mars and Beyonce.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Y'all got bad Mooney.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
See, Now that's a fan.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That I don't know if that was that, that was
Italian boy.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
All of my dad restaurant, my friends who say bad
they all say bad Mooney. They all say it like that,
I'm telling you bad. Yes they are who are Bad
Bunny fans, like all of them shout out the shout
out the rocks, like the ones that traveled to Puerto
Rico to go see Bad Bunny. That's why they say it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, but you can't say that thought, can I? Well,
you look like you could be Spanish.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
You do you look the mustache?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
No? You just you look like you could be get in.
You look like you can be Puerto Rican like you
can be Dominican. Yeah you got that. You got that
look to you Costa Rican maybe yeah you got that look.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Definitely have Puerto Rican Manni Hithms for sure.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
What does that see that feels that felt racist.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Or anything from his face? His white face is gonna
come across it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Acting like I was quoting the Young Thugg at Troll.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
What was try everybody white? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well? He said, Young Thug said, you know, the thing
about what the music industry used to be is if
you want to be big and be success, go white.
So this is that's what he was trying to do,
Like he was trying to this is.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
His bluegrass album.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But why did he turn everybody?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
This is not I don't even want you to do.
This is not young, this is no, this is not that.
But that was his reason saying, you know, they used
to have black artists when they but back in the days,
the album cover would be like white people on the Beach.
It wouldn't even be the black artist on that. So
he's kind of like alluding to that if you want
to be the biggest, you gotta go white.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Ah Okay, was that a fake tweet when he posted
here's all my friends and was all the features and
they were all white too, Because again I didn't have service,
I didn't know if that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Was a troll.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Probably probably a troll, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It looked like it was really a real account, but
it had all the features and they were all white,
which made me wish that Central C was on the
album so I could see the white version of Central
cea that he would make to just put a picture
of Central C if it was all them and then
just see as is.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Do we think Bad Bunny's gonna bring anybody? Will them? Krby?
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I would not be surprised, but I don't think so.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bodega Baddie at the super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
No, what was the one from the first album.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
That they have now? I like Dallas. I like them.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, I think Cardy comes out and they do that.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I like it like that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh yeah, they definitely get like if you're going to
do I like it like that. Anyway, it has to
be at the super Bowl. Yeah, that's such a party.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
And Ricky Martin need to come out, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Shakira while they're at it. See if she's free.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Didn't she already do the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think Cardy gets brought out. I don't know,
is there another artist from that genre?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Is any I like it?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like that too, j Jay Balwin and Bad Bunny got
a little, oh take a little static between them. I mean,
I don't know if it's I wouldn't say beef, but
I don't think that they're on the terms that they
used to be on right now.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
But they could squash it at the super Bowl. It
would be like a nice moment of unity.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It'll be like Thug and Lucci maybe the same thing.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Have you guys listened to Big Dozey did? I?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's all I've been listening to a weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
What he put on his back to the future. What's
the sneakers?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You got mags?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You definitely put those on to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I didn't do that. He was walking around the
house and the Nah, I definitely did do that.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
I haven't heard it yet. Is it more rap? Is
it pop?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
What is it? I haven't heard it yet.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I've been business.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
It's very eighties pop, very much eighties pop.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
This album is incredible incredible music. Doja bro Listen, man,
she might be y'all know how I feel about Nikki,
but like Doja is like right there for me. I
think she. I think Doja as far as her artistry,
her talent, her vision, I think she's right there with
(11:12):
the Beyonces and and the Rihannas and all of them.
Absolutely like her artistry and her skill set and her
her vision, like her stage show, her performance, everything is right.
She just doesn't have the big production that those artists have.
But like her talent level, her skill set, you.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Just named two artists that ain't even on the same
talent level. So like, are you putting her on.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
A level with Rihanna? I'm saying, or a level with beyond.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm saying she's right there, in the same in the
same scope with those with those artists, She's right there.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
What I was saying is them artists are not on
the same scope as each other. That's why I was confused.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, but I mean those are like superstars.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Okay, you're saying she's a superstar. I thought you were
talking about Actually, like, no, she's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Not on the same No, she she hasn't had the
success that those artists have had, but skills, skill set
and talent one thousands.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I agree with you there one thousand definitely has the
skill set.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
One thousand percent. Like she's bro Like you can just
look at an artist and tell like if they had
because you, as you know Roy, a lot of a
lot of what comes with the lore of a superstar
is you know, production, is the production big and the
stage president that kind of adds to But I'm just
talking about skill set, talent, vision, like she has all
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of that. I mean anytime you see it at these
when we see it at the met like she was
the most talked about person on the carpet, Like she
has that that thing that she has that superstar quality
that those other ladies have without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Okay, that's all I was.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
I just wanted to clear up because I'm when I
hear you say that you comparing those to Beyonce, I
don't want to be hived to kill you.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So that's why I just wanted to.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
That Doja cats as talented as Beyonce? That's some crazy
as shit to say.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I'm saying she is. I don't think she's not.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
She's not.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
She's not as strong vocally as Beyonce, but talent. She dances,
she raps, she sings like she has she checks all
of her performance, she checks all of the boxes without
a doubt like those Your cat is that type of
talent without a doubt skill set.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
But to put them in the same category, she would
have to accomplish the same things that I feel like
those But that comes with time.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, that just comes with time. That's all we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Because I mean when it comes.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Obviously, she's not a better singer than Beyonce, not a
better dancer, catalog, and hasn't done any of the tour
scales that Beyonce has done. I mean, I don't even
think she's there with Nicki yet, but she could be
on the path to get there. Like I think she's great,
I just think she needs to accomplish more to be
in those conversations.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
When you say she's not on Nicki's level, What do
you mean as far as what uh skills?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Talent, accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's time.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
That comes with time, Bro, that come with time, I know,
but that's what I'm getting a catalog impact hits like
I don't think Dojah could stand toe to toe with
Nikki and come even close in a versus.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, but you okay, that's that's I'm about songs. Just
I'm talking about talent level, Yeah, superstar quality.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Do you think that Doja cat is when it comes
to rap music? Right?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Rap?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Because I look at Thoja like a pop star.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
I look at Nicky as a pop star too, but
Nikki leans more to a rap. You think that Dojah
can sit with Nikki talent wise with rapping.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Absolutely absolutely. I think if Nikki, I think if Nikki
and Dojah have a get a record together where they're
just rapping, I think Dojah definitely holds her own, definitely
will have people like, oh shit, I didn't know Doja
was like that.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Without a doubt, I think she would definitely hold her own. Agree,
But I mean again, and it's not a slight to
Dojah at all, but you know she'd be on a
record with somebody that clearly had a huge influence on her.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Oh yeah yeah, And I everyone absolutely no influence.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
By y'all know where I put it. But I'm just saying, like,
but you can hear Nikki through a lot of dose,
But when you I'm just saying, when you listen to
a Dojah Cat record or album and you just hear
just again the talent level for somebody who is probably
writing all of this shit.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
M Well, yeah, Twitter, I forgot what page it was
put out a very misleading stat that Doja Cat is
the first female rapper to have only herself in the
writing credits of a full album, and I.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Was like, no, that's well, that's that's wrong. Yeah. But
to what I'm saying, she's writing all of this, whether
it's a wrap, pop, R and B, whatever she's doing
like she's writing that, she's executing it. She sounds great
if she you know, at her show, her performance is incredible.
Like I just was told myt what she did at
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the VMA's her performance at the vm she had Michael Bolton, Yeah,
Michael Bolon, m Kenny G. Kenny G. She had Kenny
G come out. Like just that attention to detail for
a stage show, like for that is that just lets
you know that this is an artist that is looking
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at things differently. She's paying attention to the detail of everything,
and that is what a superstar does. To me.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I mean, San's fashion and producing to some of the
I know dose Cat does produce, but she's more in
a Tyler lane to me than she would be comparing
her to Nicky.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
This album here, I mean she doesn't compared to the
last project, which was more was a rap project. She
doesn't wrap that much on this project. It's a pop album,
so like that's where the Nicky. Yeah, but I wouldn't
even like forget the project.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm just saying her skill set, sure, okayed Tyler?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, ty you said Tyler? Or Tyler?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Tyler?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Tyler? Okay Tyler, he said Tyler, And I'm like, no, no, no,
he meant Tyler.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, Okay, okay, Okay, got you guys.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I said Sam's fashion and Tyler produced Joja Cat produces.
But I don't think she does the degree that that
Tyler creator does. And Tyler has a like his fashion
ship is over here too. But I would I would
put Joe kind of like what yeah, That's.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
All I'm saying. And there's no disrespect to Tyler.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I think she feel weird, but.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm just saying for you to say that. I was like,
how are you comparing that? Okay?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, I would put her more in a comparison there
than NICKI, who obviously does have pop hits and does sing,
but Nicki is, at the end of the day, like
you think rapper first, hardcore rapper first, whereas Dojah, you know,
is spread across the whole spectrum when it comes to music.
This album being one of those where she's rapping. I
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love her raps, but that wasn't the focus on this.
This was way more melodic, way way more in the
sense like this was.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It was an eighties pop album.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, my only critique of it because I really do
love it, it's a little too on the nose of
eighties pop. I would have liked her to make it
more of her own.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I think it is like straight up.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Like, hey, I'm making an eighties pop album. No, no, no,
not in that like it doesn't need to be warmer.
It's just like like all right, day and night. To
me was like a cutty It was a weird version
of like an eighties pop record, but cutt he made
it his own and made it in this time. This
doesn't sound like an eighties album in twenty twenty five.
It just sounds like an eighties pop album that Doja
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Kata singing rapping over, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I think it's great I think that's I think that's
what she was trying to do. Now, the content is
definitely Dojah. Helly what she's saying, she's talking talking, but
the music is I think that's what she wanted. She
wanted to kind of capture that sound that you know,
that that energy of eighties pop, and I think she
did that, but she's I think she still kept the
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Dojah with the lyrics.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah, this is definitely a tour that I will pay.
Oh no, I'm going to the show like this is
going to be I'm going to the show at the.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Garden without a doubt. I'm not missing Doja again. It's
not happening.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
What happens when like the lights go too crazy? Epilepsy?
What do you get? I would like, I want to
get epilepsy at the Garden.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I'm ali if it's eighties themes.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
With all the lasers, like, yeah, I want this to
be that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I'm definitely going not. I was mad I missed
her last tour. We got to l A. I think
the day after she just ended the tour. That's not
happening this shit. I will be at the Garden for
that Doja show without a doubt. Got to see her live.
She's one of those artists that I just I feel
like I have to see it. I have to actually
go to the show and just just see it and
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feel the energy and what her fan base is.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm mad I miss Global Citizen Fest in New York
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
What is that?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
It was like a kind of like a not really
a festival, but a festival Global Citizen. They had Tyler,
they had Cardi b up there performing pregnant. They had
Maria Scientists, the had a bunch of people that was heartbroken.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Dope.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
No, I don't think do perform, but it was a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I never heard of Global City really wow.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah, it was a New York this week so.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
It's just like a festival of Yeah, it's been going
on for for a while now.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Was it at Shakee Stadium.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
No, it was on some lawn.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It was on some lawn for real. Oh, Central Park
is a lawn, so yeah, I get it. Pharrell, Alicia Keys,
One Republic, her, Carol King.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, that's very old. That's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Baby, Oh that was when the world was Okay.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Yeah, I'm like her. Yeah, it is called the Great
Lawn in Central Park. I know, I Wasn't Crazy Carter
by Tyler Iris Star Marida Scientists Camillo Eleon Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Okay, oh I'm sure that was fun.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah we missed it, but fine.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Well yeah, check out Doja Cat's album. I'm curious to
see what the visuals look like on this. I'm actually
shocked with that type of production that she didn't release,
like similar like what Beyonce did with this self titled album,
like a visual for every single song, because this is
one of those that I think, like every song warrants.
Even if they did, like a short film of all
the songs, I think that would make sense because there's
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so much you can do with that eighties pop shit
for sure. But yeah, other than that, she's been on
a run, I mean the last from twenty twenty one
to twenty twenty five four projects. Like she's staying super
consistent for being an A list.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Artist, Like she's incredible. Man, I love Doja Cat like
I'm like a Doja Cat fan. I love that like
a real Doja Cat fan.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Maybe should come on the pod.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, let's get Dojo on man, do I might dam
let me I DM and see if she she responds.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
If she can't come on we can maybe just do
like a like a chat online.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah something, Yes, a little chat. Her having the zooms room,
she can show us her feet.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Now, she's not gonna as her bad bunny impression favor
keep the theme of the racist chat.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Well, this week, have y'all been on the internet? The
internet been internet and what happened?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I don't even know. I went back to what happened
on the internet. What happened on the internet this week?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
A lot of ship, a lot of ship that we
don't have to talk about exactly, but I'm sure, I mean,
we're gonna talk about it. But Nikki Cardi, do we.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Say merchants available? Yes, Nikki Cardi, JT.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Santana something like important like the continued genocide and Gaza.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
You talk about Carti and Nikki.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's that's not happening. That's happening in the room.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I thought you're talking about like a real conflict, the
way you concerned about how we've come.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
From agreement that they're gonna stop killing people and on
the Gaza strip.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Like I thought that's what we to a oh my back,
they're talking about the government shutting down this week.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, No, that's happening in real life, not the internet.
Got you've been on the internet.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Ok, Okay, no I haven't been on the internet. So
what happened on the internet?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Baby?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
To give it to us.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
So there has been some conflict between the female rappers.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I thought you're about to save kids real You say conflict.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Good, I'm sorry. Good.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Look at how we use words though, Yeah, the same
thing is a conflict.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's not a conflict. They beat.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Nobody's conflicted.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
They made each other, they beefing, it's all out war like.
It is what it is. But give it to us.
Give it to the people that may not know what
happened on the internet, baby, Go to.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
The people who may not know what happened on the internet. Basically,
Cardi and Nikki been on there talking about each other's kids.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Again.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, it's but it's bad. It got really bad.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
It got bad to the point where like everybody was
kind of like, y'all need to stop. Like when you're
sending direct insults to the children, calling the children slow,
saying they banging spoons, talking about the children's teeth.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, it got bad.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
They make fun of Nikki's child because they're saying they
there's a rumor that Nicki's child is non verbal or autistic.
So Cardi attacked that because Nikki, I mean, because Nikki
was attacking culture and talking about her gums and talk.
It was just bad. It was just got really really
bad and nasty, like really really bad and nasty. And
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it has gotten to the point where people are kind
of like pulling out of it. It's not even like
entertaining anymore. And I just kind of wanted you guys's
opinions on I know, we say, like, for example, the
pedophile bar was too far right, allegedly, the pedophile bar
was too far talking about kids is obviously too far.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And you're not even rhyming, yeah, like, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
No, there was a whole bunch of ABCD in there. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
But I mean, anytime the barbs say hey, maybe we
should pull back a bit and have some civil discourse,
you know, something.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Is really really wrong. This is this is weird.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I also don't care about the theory that Nikki is
only saying the things that Carti has said about people
in the past to put the mirror and we just
don't understand the triple on tendras. This is gross and
disgusting on both sides. I don't care who started who
said the kids shit first. Both people are participated and
are still participating to continue to talk about children. This
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is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen two A
list artists trying to one up each other on Twitter
about who can insult their child the most.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I know we can have the lols? What the fuck
is this? Who on either side?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Family members, baby fathers, husbands, anybody.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Somebody just rip out the Verizon wireless shit in their house?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah. The PR people are at home too. On her like,
I would just be chewing my fingernails off if I
was third PR, Like, what about here?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
For?
Speaker 6 (26:04):
What is my job?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I got?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
I got eight hours of sleep and woke up and
they were still they were just going through more kids.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
It got bad, and allegedly it started from obviously Carti's
rollout and everything. Her rollout was going great and everything,
and then Nicki started, you know, tweeting stats and little
things like that, and then she started was she started
mocking some things that Carti was saying on her album,
and that sent Carti into a blind rage. And my
thing is I just we've said it before. I just
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want Cardi to stop taking the bait, because now we
were just talking about how she had a great album,
great rollout, everything was going great. She did what everybody
wanted her to do, And now you don't let yourself
get pulled into some mess and now no one's talking
about that, they're talking about this.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Well.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Also on Nicki's side, Carti kind of said the same
thing we were saying a few episodes ago of Nicki
even posting her album date or even getting involved during
this rollout, Like now you're putting yourself you're the goat.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Cardi's like, I have.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Two albums out. You came out when I was in
high school. Like what now we're now we're the same.
Why are you even entertaining me if you're supposed to
be up here? Why the fuck is my rollout part
of your rollout?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Now for next year? Nicki has now put Cardi at
the exact same level.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, but that's I mean, card wasn't she on the
phone screaming at Ice Spice and her people. Ice Spice
is younger than her, She came out, her album came
out when Ice Spicer was in high school. Like, so
none of that matters at an age and when you
came out, if you don't like somebody, got issue with somebody,
you expressed it. I think this is the wrong way
to express it. I think there's the wrong way to
go about it. I think it's distasteful. I think it's
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you know, but I mean, listen, man, people don't like
each other. We know that people are, you know, competitive women.
When you have women involved, they can become very caddy
and very you know, just just because that's the thing
that women have in them. You know, they have that
ability to kind of like keep receipts and you know,
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weaponize things with family and you know, personal things about
each other. And you know, I mean, it's unfortunate that
it's Cardi and Niki, But I mean, is it surprising
anybody at this point? Obviously these two women don't like
each other.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
We know that there's other ways to express not liking.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Someone, Yeah, through the music.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Sweet Away.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I just don't know why kids have to come into
anything whatsoever to this degree. I'm not saying there hasn't
been in the past when it comes to hip hop,
that kids haven't been involved little shots here and there.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'm not saying that hasn't happened. I'm not saying.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
These two are the first people to ever bring children
into a verbal altercation, but to this degree, it's been
three days of just trying to one up kids that
are like three and four years old. Who could say
a nastier thing about a child? Kendrick has he said
nasty things about children.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
He called drag a petal fall.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But that's not him attacking his child.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, that's what I'm saying. Drake is a pedophile. You
know what a pedophile is.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I do know what a pedophile is, but it's not
attacking a child. It's not talking about a child, not.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
A specific child. Yeah, but it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay, fair, But completely aside from that, with this conversation
calling children out of their name and then talking about
certain issues or physical appearance, this is fucking gross.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It is like what type of adult or parent would
even feel comfortable doing this? And listen two cars credit.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I know she would say, what would you say if
somebody says something about your kid? Maybe you'd get a
tweet out of me, but maybe probably just silence. And
I'm not calling for anyone violence whatsoever, But if you
think I'm going tit for tat on Twitter once you
bring up my kid.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
No, well that's what she said, she said, I don't
even want to keep doing this at this point. You
got to see me.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
But insinuating anything, I'm just saying it would be quiet
if it got.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
To that line. There would be no banter back and forth.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I agree, I wholeheartedly. I agree.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, I I know there are so there are some
conspiracy theories that Cardi and Nikki are the stupidest fucking
conspiracy theories. But people are like, they're working together for this,
and at this point, I'm like, they're not working together.
But what I am what I would like to know
is someone is sitting there thinking that this is good
marketing and I'm just wondering where the line is drawn.
(30:27):
Because there is a thing as there is such a
thing as bad publicity. Not all publicity is good publicity.
This has to look shitty for whatever brands they work with.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
This looks bad. If I'm the.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
CEO of a major company and I have a partnership
with somebody, or I'm paying somebody to sponsor my brand,
I would never want them attached to this. I don't
care who started first. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But why do you say it looks bad?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
These are grown women attacking children?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah, like that looks bad for a brand. If I'm
the CEO of a major, major brand, Yeah, I don't
want this person attached to my brand.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I mean, I get it. But what you're saying is correct.
When you start talking about each other's children, you know,
now that's a whole different level of disrespect and you know,
just nasty things to say. But if we if we're
being real, that's just that. Not our culture of hip hop?
(31:30):
Who can say the worship about each other? Who can
disrespect each other the most? Who can? Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Not?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It is this that? Like I'm not, I'm not as
surprised as anybody else's. Like granted, yeah, they're talking about kids,
but it's like.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Okay, okay, but you don't think there's an arena for that,
Like they're not on they're not on stage at Summer Madness.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
That you are. Oh yeah, so that's the only place
I can think where they.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
This isn't to me, No, this isn't hip hop.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yes, or the two people involved in this verbal altercation,
both hip hop and both rappers. Of course, that's that's
not hip hop. Tweeting about someone's kid is not hip
hop to me.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
So I'm not quite sure of your example.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
I mean, of course, in rap battles, yeah, there's probably
no rules and a lot of stuff, whether we agree
or not. They've said insane things in your rol that
I could not even believe. People stand there and just
take it. They have the patience of a fucking jedi.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
So this is cool.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
This is this is just two people insulting each other's kids.
There's nothing hipnot Just because they both rap doesn't make
it hip hop.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So if it was a beat and they said these.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I would say, this is a nasty battle.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That's what I was.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
This is a really nasty battle, all right, So this
this is acapoco.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's all we just got to.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
But I just when Damarisar said nobody rhymed yet, this
is just statement.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I so card he say something. She was kind of
rapping on one of us. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
But then it just got to that line.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Whenever Nikki had said culture whatever, I was like, well,
here we go and four hour straight of just naming kids.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's unfortunate too for
it to play out like that. And again, you know,
whenever you start disrespecting each other's kids, it's reached a
whole different, whole different tone, a whole different level. So
I mean, I came here last week. You know, y'all
know how I feel about Nikki. You know how I
feel about Cardi. I came in here, tried to you know,
throw Nicki some bad saying, nah, what's your naun style?
I was like, nah, I ain't got nothing to do
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with Cardi. That's just you know, Nikki. But it's clear
as day like they these two women just absolutely do
not like each other for whatever. I don't even know
where they started. I don't know what was the cause
of it. At first, years ago, I thought it was
just a competitive thing, you know, Nikki being the top
dog and you know, here comes Cardi. They're trying to
play somebody in that lane and kind of give you know,
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healthy competition to whoever the top female MC is, which
we understand in music. So I just thought it was
a competitive thing, and I thought, you know, fan bases,
you know, add to that and fuel that a little bit.
But it was it was okay because it seemed like
it was just a competitive rap thing like who's the
top female rapper? But now it's going way too left.
(34:06):
It's it's personal. It's a lot of behind the scenes shit.
I believe that's going on on both sides. Things that
are being said, information that is being fed both ways,
a lot of pillow talking, a lot of you know.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
So the rumor, the rumors that Nikki is schizophrenic are
on drugs, right, why is that the ruin there's there's
been because of the things that the rants that she
goes on, people would say that they don't connect accusing
jay Z of trying to kill her and ruin her
career or of like that whole jay Z rock Nation thing.
(34:41):
Even when she was arguing with Carti, she was throwing
that out there, like she's been attacking jay Z for
like a year now, damn it.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So and it's just certain things that like saying.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
That, oh, they set Juice World up to be killed
on her birthday, like things like that, like Maul, I'm
asking you as like a bar like you don't are
you not seeing anything weird or like maybe anything like
a red flag like this is not making sense, like
this is not normal human behavior.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, but I'm not trying drugs and schizophrenia into it.
I think that Nikki is just saying things that she feel.
Maybe maybe she has information that we don't have. I mean,
I don't know, but I don't. I don't. I don't
go to drugs and schizophrene. Like, if we didn't hear that,
if we didn't hear that that Cardi rant about Ice Spice,
would one say she was on drugs and when she
was on the phone yelling at whoever she was yelling at,
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somebody would say that's a drugged out her tweaking out
on the phone though, just because she's not tweeting it,
but she's actually yelling it over the phone.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Okay, So there's a difference between like getting upset about
something I don't people don't control. People don't attribute you
cussing somebody out or going off to drugs like that's
not that's just you just mad, you pissed the fuck
off when shit is not making sense or like connected.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But that's what I'm saying. Maybe she has information we
don't have. This is Minaj.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Do you think do you think jay Z is out
to ruin Nicki Minaj's career?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And I don't think that I'm saying NICKI may have
information where she thinks that I can't call somebody drugged
down and schizophrenic because they're saying something that I'm not
informed about or I don't believe. To me, that's not
that's not a fair To put that on somebody is
not fair. Now, Do I think going on Twitter and
expressing that is the best thing?
Speaker 5 (36:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think that's like, why would you even do that? Like,
because first of all, nobody cares on Twitter. I can
promise you that nobody gives a fuck. So going on
there and expressing these things that you feel are true
and you think are real for what, Like that doesn't
the people on there. They're just gonna use that for
memes and to say you're on drugs and like, they
(36:44):
don't care about that. So to me expressing it there,
to me, it makes no sense. I never understood why
people run to social media and express things like this
as if people can I promise you people do not
give a fuck. But well, I just can't go to
Parbes diagnosed with somebody with schizophrenia and being drugged out
because of what they're tweeting. I'm not doing that. I can't.
(37:07):
I can't do that, because sometimes you do that and
you're wrong, and then now you look like an insensitive
person because it's like, oh shit, this person wasn't just
going crazy on their Twitter and saying things like that
was really happening, And sometimes it's not happening, you know
what I'm saying. But again, I don't put I'm not
here to diagnose somebody with schizophrenia and being on drugs.
(37:27):
I don't do that. I don't run to that.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I want to ask you a question actually, because I
value your opinion. I value your opinion. So I was
reading my devotional today and the message was about forgiveness, right,
being able to forgive people that have hurt you, because
as God has forgiven us for our sins, and I've
sent many a time. Amen, how do you feel about
(37:54):
being able to forgive somebody even if you don't want
them in your life anymore? Somebody that did some fucked
up shit to you and you don't want them in
your life anymore, are you still able to forgive them?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think it depends on where you're at mentally emotionally.
If you're at that, if you're that mature, yeah, I've
done it. I forgive people that have done some crazy
shit to me that most people probably wouldn't forgive, but
me not forgiving them does what you know what I'm saying,
I think that energy is just on you. But when
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you forgive, you like listen, it's all good and you
kind of just move forward. I think I think that's
a little easier sometimes because it's not on you. It's
not like a constant thought or you know, something that
you're constantly thinking of. It's like I'm over that. I've
grown since that, I've matured since that. But you have
to be at that point though, you have to be
(38:47):
at that point in your life where you just like
because when I was younger, like you know what, I
battled with that a lot, with finding out who killed
my brother, and I think about that a lot, Like
if I was to find out, now, what will my
reaction be, what I want revenge? Or would I just
be like, you know, kind of like forgive, move forward,
(39:10):
because that's what the Koran says, right, forgive, And you
know what I'm saying, you move. But it's like it
depends on what day you ask me that just being honest,
you know what I'm saying. Some days I'm like fuck no, nigga,
gladly go sit down in prison to revenge my brother's death,
you know what I'm saying. But then in some days
where I'm like, I can't put my mom's dorough that,
I can't put my nieces and nephews do that, I
(39:31):
can't put my brothers and sisters do that, like them
having to come visit me in prison and all, Like
you know what I'm saying. So you battle and that's like,
you know, that's like the biggest thing they try to
forgive somebody for us is taking the life of one
of your loved ones. But it's like you have to
get to that point where it's like, nah, I forgive
and I move forward with my life. Family is blessed,
family is healthy. You look at those things and you
(39:54):
kind of compare it to what would be the point
of me not forgiving this person? Like what is that?
What does that do? Now? Again, depends on which day
you ask me. Some days I'm strong and some days
I'm weak as a motherfucker. If you ask me in
the week day, wait that nigga, at I'm ready to go.
After we did three episodes, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm
ready to raise hell. I'm ready to raise hell. I'm
(40:17):
ready to raise hell like kill everybody, you know what
I'm saying. But then it's some days where you know,
I get videos of my nephew playing golf, and I'm
just like, damn, my nephew like golf. That's fire like.
And I want to see him grow and see him
become a man and do things like do I want
to do that? From a prison, you get me like
(40:37):
you start thinking about the things that you won't be
here for and the things that you're missed. Me talking
to my homeboys that's locked up and hearing how they
talk about not being around for their kids and not
being around for their family, like you, weigh a lot
of those things, and forgiveness sometimes is the best, is
the best choice, and just to move on.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Even if you never get an apology.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Even if you never get an because sometimes you don't
need it. There's plenty of things that I moved on
from that I don't want an apology from. I don't
care to get an apology from. Like it's like for what,
like I don't I don't even This person to me
is not even I don't care to have an apology
for you, Like it's just just stay out my way though,
you know what I'm saying, like that, we ain't gonna
be hanging out kicking it. It ain't none of that.
(41:21):
I ain't that strong, you know what I'm saying. But
it's just like you know, I'm not tripping either though,
Like I'm not bent out of shape. I'm not looking
for no apology. I'm not looking for life goes on
man as tough as it's, as tough as that is,
sometimes to just accept life does go on, you know
what I'm saying, And you have to go with life,
like all right, it is what it is. Never forget.
(41:41):
You don't forget what you've been through. You don't forget
what you went through. You don't forget those feelings and
those emotions. But you learn from them, you grow from them,
and you you know, you kind of say, all right, well,
I have to move with life. Life, life goes on
to me. I mean, I'm just speaking for myself. I
can't speak to everybody, but I think it's easier sometimes
it's just kind of just give and move forward.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
My My biggest thing is I have a hard time
when not getting the apology I need because now you're
giving that person.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Too much power, too much, You're giving them too much,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you don't what you need,
what you need, what you need that person, because that's ego.
A lot of that is ego that you're talking about,
like what you need that person.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Because I apologize.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
I hate when a motherfucker like when I know I'm right,
Like I know I'm right, like in this scenario, I
know I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
I know I'm right, and you just won't give that
to me.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
And I know that that is ego, right, I know
that that's ego and that I need to let that go.
But it's like, nah, you need to fucking apologize, but
you know because you're not even you're not even sorry.
You ain't even gonna even going to pretend to be sorry.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But you know what it is, though, demarags Like when
you know you right, the truth speaks for you. You
ain't got to say a motherfucking thing. Sometimes you just
watch the truth speak and you just sit there just
looking at anybody Like I tried to tell you all
niggas this however long ago. So something you don't you
don't need no apology from nobody for what. Nah, you
(43:06):
don't you don't need. That's we tell ourselves that that's
ego talking to us, and now you gotta say sorry,
she got Nah, she fucked that. She gotta apologize for
that shit for what she know she know or he know,
he know the truth, he know the real like that
she's gonna eat them up every You know, sometimes when
you just remove yourself from people, like your presence and
(43:27):
your energy, that's all you don't need. No, I don't
need no apology from nobody. You ain't gotta say I'm sorry,
I was fucked up. It was my foot. I don't
need that because you ain't stop nothing. It's been lit
since that, like very shit been, you know what I mean.
So you you look at that, all that other shit
is just your ego talking to you, Like, you don't
(43:47):
need that shit. Man, we put too much on our ear.
But again I know because I've been in those situations too.
I'm like, I didn't even need that, Like that was stupid,
but that was your ego. But as you get a
little older, you start understanding like it's gonna like the
day going in and hopefully you see the next day
and that's it. Just move forward. You don't need people
(44:07):
to tell you that they fucked up, y'all, I was wrong.
They know that already, and if they get to a
place where they are ready to say that and admit
that and then cool. But you don't need that, though, Like,
so we gotta stop saying I need not. They gotta
sick for what?
Speaker 6 (44:22):
How do you get better at not operating out of
your ego as as an adult. I've been struggling more
with that with my relationship, Like I peep it now
right because I peep it because I'm in a healthier relationship.
When I was a very bad space in a different relationship,
it was okay for the eagle to fly because we
was just doing a whole bunch of toxic shit anyway.
But now that I'm trying to be in a healthy relationship,
(44:43):
I see my ego creep up. I'm like, ooh, that
was that was ego. That wasn't necessary, or that wasn't
or so I'm trying to get better at recognizing it
and not speaking from it. But it's like in the
back of my mind, I'm like, if something goes wrong
and I didn't flex my ego I'm gonna regret it,
and I'm trying to get out of that mind state.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But the fact that you're trying to get out of
it is great. That means because you recognize it, like yo,
that's unnecessary, so that right there is enough. Eventually you'll
just see that you're just doing it like you just
completely remove yourself from having that ego where it's just
like because that again, it's everybody got their shit, Everybody
got their faults, everybody, nobody's perfect life is tough for everybody.
(45:25):
Some people's lives are tougher than yours. So when you
just look at shit like that, like from that perspective, like,
let me remove myself and my emotions from this and
let me just assess the situation, what happened, what's going on.
Once you do that, or you realize first a lot
of the times the energy you be trying to put
into shit ain't even worth it. The situation ain't that
serious to moment, ain't that serious. It's just like, remove
(45:47):
that ego. Cool. As long as somebody put their hands
on you, nobody ain't physically because I need my look back.
You hit me, nigga, I'm hitting back. That's what we're doing.
But if it's just actions and some somebody said, I
don't care about that man, that shit is, that's all
ego talking to you. And you get to a point
in life where you just like, no matter what happens,
I'm gonna do what I want to do. I'm gonna
(46:08):
enjoy myself, Like whether people are alone for the ride
or not, we're gonna have fun. Ego will stop you
from experiencing and really enjoying a lot of shit because
you so caught up in your own thoughts, in your
own mind of what you how you feel like it's
supposed to go, and how you feel like it's no,
it's not. Sometimes it's just it's not what you overthinking
(46:29):
a lot of you overanalyzing a lot of that shit.
A lot of times we make up situations that's not
even a real thing, Like that's not even I hear
people like, yo, I don't fuck with that. What happened?
And then niggas tell you what happened you to be like,
that's what happened, Like that's what all this y'all back
and forth for that, Like it means it's like yo, y'all,
just it's ego talking. Yeah, and that's just but that again,
that's human nature. We all have it, we all have
(46:51):
been through it. But then you get to a point
where you understand how to control it. You understand when
and where to use your e because ego is good.
It's good to have an ego, but you gotta underst
and winning way to use it though, and how to
use it. Like sometimes you need ego for competitive things
and things like that, like to kind of talk to
yourself and get yourself going. But like pushing it on
situations that's not even like serious or worth it. That's
(47:14):
that's that's just immaturity. That's stupid.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Damn, that's some real ass wisdom coming from the birthday boy.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So, I mean, I'm just you know, I'm just trying,
just trying to tell you know, mean how it is.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
When you live long enough, you start looking at shit
like that was stupid. I should have never said that.
I should have never did that. And I mean, I live.
We I'm in front of a mic and on camera,
like you know, how much should I say anythings years
ago down here? And I'm like, damn, I don't even
I'm not even that personal more. But it's real, and
the moment is how I felt. If I'm old and
more mature now, of course I don't feel those ways
(47:47):
and think like that. I would hope that I've grown
and matured since ten years ago. You know what I'm saying.
Like shit, I said ten to eleven years ago. No,
I don't feel the way about a lot of those
things anymore. But in the moment, yeah, I may have
felt like that, but that's where I was at in
my life in that moment, and that's just you got
to accept that from anybody like that's just who they are.
But again, when you start analyzing ship, just remove your
(48:09):
ego from it a lot of times and just kind
of look at the whole situation and you'll land on
the right side. Once your ego is going, it's easier
to kind of kind of hit the mark. At least
that's what I think. You know, I'm just giving you
what I think. So in relationships, just remove your ego
a little bit. Why he ain't called me, why he
ain't mine is born might be melting. This nigga might
(48:31):
be going through a fucking depressed state. He ain't verbalize it,
he ain't talked about it. It'd be a lot of
that too. You've been like, yo, why he ain't why
he is depressed or she's depressed. That's what I'm saying.
It ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
With My problem is that I need everything to be like.
I can be very tip for tat, I can be
very like, are you doing this? I gotta double it.
That's like I gotta stop. I know, I know, I know,
I'm aware, and I try to. I try to get
better at it. But it's like you way too long
text me back back. Not in my current relationship, I
would you go to text me back? I'm I'm a double.
(49:04):
I'm a double the time you take twenty two hours
to text me back, I'm gonna take three tex.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Stemma from, though, where do you think that's stemma from?
Speaker 6 (49:11):
If I was to be real honest with myself, like real,
real deep, what I think a therapist would say is
that there's an insecurity in making sure nobody plays with me.
I don't I don't ever want I don't want anybody
to play with me. I never want to look stupid.
And if I was to dig real world deep into that,
it's probably because of shit that I endured in childhood
(49:32):
where I was embarrassed a lot as a kid just
because of like family shit or things like that, and
it's just like, I never want to be embarrassed again.
I take embarrassment really really hard. So I think that
it's it's that it's like I'm never going to give
you the chance to say that you had like one
up on me, Like I don't like that feeling. I
don't like that feeling of like not being in control
(49:55):
or somebody knowing something that I don't know, Like I'm
very nosy. That's why I used to have that phone problem.
Not even because I would feel like I always feel
like somebody was cheating. It was just like I never
I used to go through my friend's phones when I
was in middle school. In high school, I would go
and search my name like because it was like or
like in college, because I would feel like, Yo, are
you talking about me behind my back? Like is there
something that you know that I don't know? Is there
something you're saying about me that I don't know. I
(50:17):
don't like that feeling, And I'm trying to let go
of that because at one point I can see, oh,
this has the potential to rule my relationship with somebody
that I love and I care about, because I don't
trust that what they what they say they feel about me,
they actually feel about me. And that has more to
do with I'm sure my own self worth or shit
that I've gone through than anything that they've shown me.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
So I'm aware of that.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
So what we all have an insecurity securities ego?
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, human nature, human nature, But I'm getting better.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Getting old and mature in and realizing your flaws and
making those, you know, your strengths and kind of working
on that. That's that's it. It'd happened. But I'm glad
that you understand that that's exactly what that is, in
security ego and shit like that, because that's all it
is once you remove of that. Because either way, if
you do searching man's phone that he's cheating, then what
then what?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Then?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
What then what?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
So it's just like either way it goes, your heart
gonna be broken either way, that's what you're gonna be.
All right, Hello, you're gonna move on. Life goes on.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Right.
Speaker 6 (51:17):
If that nigga don't work, get another one, that one
don't work, get another one. Don't see me come on
this podcast and be madly heartbroken and then come in
what a month later, it was like, oh my god,
I'm the happiest I've ever been in my time.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's like clockwork. As the seasons changed, SODA's Baby D.
As the seasons changed, Sodas Baby d. I get it,
it's all good. But you know, remove that ego in
securities and you know we're gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
We're gonna be good.
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When I came out of the theater last night, I think, uh, actually,
my homebok while we was in the theater, I guess
he checked his phone and was like, oh shit, bad
Bunny got the super Bowl. I thought he was lying.
I was like, what, it's a bad Bunny. Was surprising
to you, Not that it was surprising to me because
news that came out that Taylor Swift turned it down
(00:25):
and Adele turned it down. Yes, So I was laughing
my homeboys about that. I was like, yeah, you know
when you're when you're a big dog, you turned down
the super Bowl. You don't need the fucking super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Just talking ship and are the biggest dog?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well beneatho Beneito decided he.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Was where would you think Prince Prince would be?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, no, I mean it was it was jokes. It
was it was just ship talking. But once once Taylor
turned it down and Adele turned it down, it was
kind of like, well, damn, who's gonna So then you
obviously have to look at whoever is the biggest the
stars that's what they you know how they kind of
go by it. So it was bad Bunny. I thought
about it, but I didn't think the NFL or Rock
(01:06):
Nation would actually pull a trigger on it and do it.
I thought they would find somebody else and kind of
feeling that slide. I didn't know if Bad Bunny wanted
to even be a part of it, the Super Bowl thing,
but it makes sense after he just had the residency
in Puerto Rico, what he did down on the island,
which was incredible, you know, but I didn't think that
(01:27):
it would land on Bad Bunny after Adele and Tailor Turney.
He wasn't the first person I thought about. But now
that he is announced as to perform the Super Bowl,
it makes sense. I mean, he's one of the biggest
stars in the world.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So you thought right wing football was mad at Doctor
Dre and Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
This is going to be the most.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Racist halftime Twitter timeline you have ever seen in your life.
At this time, Bad Bunny was made comments about Ice. Also,
I think Bad Bunny would make more sense for me
FIFA just based off not only the popularity, but just
just the sport in itself and out in the nationalist
football is a very American thing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
This is going to be interesting. Well, Puerto Rico is
a territory of the US.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I fully understand, right, I just it's an interesting pick.
I like it.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I'm just telling you with the climate right now, this
was a crazy.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Pick, a bold move, but I think I can't wait
to see it a great time where it needs to.
I think it's the right move. He's the biggest pop
star in the world.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So yeah, Well it's interesting because the reason why he
didn't go on an American tour was because he was
in I guess concerned is the word. He was concerned
that ice would be at his shows, arresting.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Very fair assumption that that would happen without question. The
fact that there's people they go to home depots. You
don't think they go to the Bad Bunny show.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They're good. They would be waiting outside.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But it's not it's not interesting to you that somebody
that's here illegally, a migrant, could afford a bad Bunny
ticket in America?
Speaker 6 (03:06):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
How you know? How you know how expensive bad Bunny
tickets are?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Do you know how much money of the guys standing
outside of lows and home depot pull in cash?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
No? I don't A good amount offered them, Like, yeah,
that ain't but that's just notice the big chicken tech
artists and be like, yo, I don't want to go
on a US tour because I'm afraid that ICE agents
might be at my shows arresting people.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yeah, and also not even all of them have to
be immigrants. They could be the ICE be fucking around
fucking with regular Spanish people, like like, they don't even
have to be immigrants, they be fucking They will arrest
you and then figure out the details later. Oh you're American,
Oh my bad. Oh you're a dreamer, Oh my bad.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, I don't think that's there's going to be a few.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's definitely happened plenty of times.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I don't know if that I don't know if that's happened,
but it has happened. The interesting part is the interesting
part is his show. His stage performance is incredible. For sure.
He puts on a better show than ninety percent of
the artist. So yeah, it will be a huge production.
It will be great, completely well deserved. I just think
it's a bold move that I'm not mad at.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's just for this year. We're going into next year. Yes,
that's a crazy pick.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And then and then we all we know what it's
all about, you know, they're getting the big you know,
obviously the Latin community will tune in to the halftime show,
so the numbers are going to be incredible. And that's
all this is about. It's not so much about the
people in the stadium. It's not so much about the
people that's actually at the super Bowl, but more so
about how many people can we get to tune in
(04:34):
for halftime to push these commercials and things like that. So,
I mean, bad Bunny is you know, he has a huge,
huge global audience. He puts on a great show. He
has great music, great performer, greater entertainer. So, I mean
it makes sense.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Is the NFL scripted? If somehow the Raiders go from
one to three and go on a Super Bowl run?
Why would that be script out of latinos? Are greater
spin Cowboys fans too?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
True? Chargers are doing pretty well forty.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Nine Ers fans?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Is that a thing with the Niners?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh you've never been to a nin game?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh yeah, huge?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Oh okay, huge? What's the Niners record?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Now?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I'm just trying to see if that scripted.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Three and one.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Charges three and one nine is three and one script
script is in?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's it's in the Bay Area. The Niners might be
in the game. Man, the Niners might be in.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
The Bowl, and all Latino experience, Oh my god, and
all Latino. Yeah, I'm curious how they're gonna not spend
per se, But like market the entire thing with Bad Bunny.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I'm just interested to see.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The same way they market you know, MODELO.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
It's the same, y'all have a large spanisha.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
No red being offensive?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
No, how am I know making sure it's not offensive.
I'm saying to market it the same mayey market anything
else that you don't have to.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
In Mal's defense, the image that Rock Nation did pick
looks like.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
A Corona commercial.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He was on the he was on the beach with
a fucking goal post, like.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You know, the Corona commercial or a silhouette of the
little hut in the palm tree.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It was the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It's the same thing. It's bad money. That's that sells itself.
Good dope sells yourself. You know that Rory bad money.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's bad magic. It's grand name.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Bad Bunny's performing at Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Say, just watched Super Bowl. I don't know, Okay, it
might be the highest watched.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I don't think that's a bad take at all.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Nah, not more than not like us.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
All right, I'm not trying to wink that.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I will say, between the numbers of people that watched
the halftime show regardless, plus an entire new demographic that
may not watch it yet, this could be the highest
highest rated.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's not being Kendrick though, he's not nowhere he's gonna
beat Ketrick. No, he's not.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He's Yeah, I will go on the limits.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
He's probably gonna be Bruno, Mars and Beyonce.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Y'all got bad Mooney.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
See, Now that's a fan.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That I don't know if that was that, that was
Italian boy.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
All of my dad restaurant, my friends who say bad
they all say bad Mooney. They all say it like that,
I'm telling you bad. Yes they are who are Bad
Bunny fans, like all of them shout out the shout
out the rocks, like the ones that traveled to Puerto
Rico to go see Bad Bunny. That's why they say it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, but you can't say that thought, can I? Well,
you look like you could be Spanish.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
You do you look the mustache?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
No? You just you look like you could be get in.
You look like you can be Puerto Rican like you
can be Dominican. Yeah you got that. You got that
look to you Costa Rican maybe yeah you got that look.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Definitely have Puerto Rican Manni Hithms for sure.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
What does that see that feels that felt racist.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Or anything from his face? His white face is gonna
come across it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Acting like I was quoting the Young Thugg at Troll.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
What was try everybody white? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well? He said, Young Thug said, you know, the thing
about what the music industry used to be is if
you want to be big and be success, go white.
So this is that's what he was trying to do,
Like he was trying to this is.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
His bluegrass album.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But why did he turn everybody?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
This is not I don't even want you to do.
This is not young, this is no, this is not that.
But that was his reason saying, you know, they used
to have black artists when they but back in the days,
the album cover would be like white people on the Beach.
It wouldn't even be the black artist on that. So
he's kind of like alluding to that if you want
to be the biggest, you gotta go white.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Ah Okay, was that a fake tweet when he posted
here's all my friends and was all the features and
they were all white too, Because again I didn't have service,
I didn't know if that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Was a troll.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Probably probably a troll, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
It looked like it was really a real account, but
it had all the features and they were all white,
which made me wish that Central C was on the
album so I could see the white version of Central
cea that he would make to just put a picture
of Central C if it was all them and then
just see as is.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Do we think Bad Bunny's gonna bring anybody? Will them? Krby?
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I would not be surprised, but I don't think so.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Bodega Baddie at the super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
No, what was the one from the first album.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
That they have now? I like Dallas. I like them.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, I think Cardy comes out and they do that.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I like it like that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Oh yeah, they definitely get like if you're going to
do I like it like that. Anyway, it has to
be at the super Bowl. Yeah, that's such a party.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
And Ricky Martin need to come out, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Shakira while they're at it. See if she's free.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Didn't she already do the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think Cardy gets brought out. I don't know,
is there another artist from that genre?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Is any I like it?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Like that too, j Jay Balwin and Bad Bunny got
a little, oh take a little static between them. I mean,
I don't know if it's I wouldn't say beef, but
I don't think that they're on the terms that they
used to be on right now.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
But they could squash it at the super Bowl. It
would be like a nice moment of unity.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It'll be like Thug and Lucci maybe the same thing.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Have you guys listened to Big Dozey did? I?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's all I've been listening to a weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
What he put on his back to the future. What's
the sneakers?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You got mags?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You definitely put those on to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I didn't do that. He was walking around the
house and the Nah, I definitely did do that.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
I haven't heard it yet. Is it more rap? Is
it pop?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
What is it? I haven't heard it yet.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I've been business.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
It's very eighties pop, very much eighties pop.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
This album is incredible incredible music. Doja bro Listen, man,
she might be y'all know how I feel about Nikki,
but like Doja is like right there for me. I
think she. I think Doja as far as her artistry,
her talent, her vision, I think she's right there with
(11:12):
the Beyonces and and the Rihannas and all of them.
Absolutely like her artistry and her skill set and her
her vision, like her stage show, her performance, everything is right.
She just doesn't have the big production that those artists have.
But like her talent level, her skill set, you.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Just named two artists that ain't even on the same
talent level. So like, are you putting her on.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
A level with Rihanna? I'm saying, or a level with beyond.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm saying she's right there, in the same in the
same scope with those with those artists, She's right there.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
What I was saying is them artists are not on
the same scope as each other. That's why I was confused.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, but I mean those are like superstars.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Okay, you're saying she's a superstar. I thought you were
talking about Actually, like, no, she's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Not on the same No, she she hasn't had the
success that those artists have had, but skills, skill set
and talent one thousands.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I agree with you there one thousand definitely has the
skill set.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
One thousand percent. Like she's bro Like you can just
look at an artist and tell like if they had
because you, as you know Roy, a lot of a
lot of what comes with the lore of a superstar
is you know, production, is the production big and the
stage president that kind of adds to But I'm just
talking about skill set, talent, vision, like she has all
(12:27):
of that. I mean anytime you see it at these
when we see it at the met like she was
the most talked about person on the carpet, Like she
has that that thing that she has that superstar quality
that those other ladies have without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Okay, that's all I was.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
I just wanted to clear up because I'm when I
hear you say that you comparing those to Beyonce, I
don't want to be hived to kill you.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So that's why I just wanted to.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
That Doja cats as talented as Beyonce? That's some crazy
as shit to say.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I'm saying she is. I don't think she's not.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
She's not.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
She's not as strong vocally as Beyonce, but talent. She dances,
she raps, she sings like she has she checks all
of her performance, she checks all of the boxes without
a doubt like those Your cat is that type of
talent without a doubt skill set.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
But to put them in the same category, she would
have to accomplish the same things that I feel like
those But that comes with time.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, that just comes with time. That's all we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Because I mean when it comes.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Obviously, she's not a better singer than Beyonce, not a
better dancer, catalog, and hasn't done any of the tour
scales that Beyonce has done. I mean, I don't even
think she's there with Nicki yet, but she could be
on the path to get there. Like I think she's great,
I just think she needs to accomplish more to be
in those conversations.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
When you say she's not on Nicki's level, What do
you mean as far as what uh skills?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Talent, accomplishments.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's time.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
That comes with time, Bro, that come with time, I know,
but that's what I'm getting a catalog impact hits like
I don't think Dojah could stand toe to toe with
Nikki and come even close in a versus.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, but you okay, that's that's I'm about songs. Just
I'm talking about talent level, Yeah, superstar quality.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Do you think that Doja cat is when it comes
to rap music? Right?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Rap?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Because I look at Thoja like a pop star.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
I look at Nicky as a pop star too, but
Nikki leans more to a rap. You think that Dojah
can sit with Nikki talent wise with rapping.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Absolutely absolutely. I think if Nikki, I think if Nikki
and Dojah have a get a record together where they're
just rapping, I think Dojah definitely holds her own, definitely
will have people like, oh shit, I didn't know Doja
was like that.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Without a doubt, I think she would definitely hold her own. Agree,
But I mean again, and it's not a slight to
Dojah at all, but you know she'd be on a
record with somebody that clearly had a huge influence on her.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Oh yeah yeah, And I everyone absolutely no influence.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
By y'all know where I put it. But I'm just saying, like,
but you can hear Nikki through a lot of dose,
But when you I'm just saying, when you listen to
a Dojah Cat record or album and you just hear
just again the talent level for somebody who is probably
writing all of this shit.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
M Well, yeah, Twitter, I forgot what page it was
put out a very misleading stat that Doja Cat is
the first female rapper to have only herself in the
writing credits of a full album, and I.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Was like, no, that's well, that's that's wrong. Yeah. But
to what I'm saying, she's writing all of this, whether
it's a wrap, pop, R and B, whatever she's doing
like she's writing that, she's executing it. She sounds great
if she you know, at her show, her performance is incredible.
Like I just was told myt what she did at
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the VMA's her performance at the vm she had Michael Bolton, Yeah,
Michael Bolon, m Kenny G. Kenny G. She had Kenny
G come out. Like just that attention to detail for
a stage show, like for that is that just lets
you know that this is an artist that is looking
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at things differently. She's paying attention to the detail of everything,
and that is what a superstar does. To me.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I mean, San's fashion and producing to some of the
I know dose Cat does produce, but she's more in
a Tyler lane to me than she would be comparing
her to Nicky.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
What, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
This album here, I mean she doesn't compared to the
last project, which was more was a rap project. She
doesn't wrap that much on this project. It's a pop album,
so like that's where the Nicky. Yeah, but I wouldn't
even like forget the project.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm just saying her skill set, sure, okayed Tyler?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, ty you said Tyler? Or Tyler?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Tyler?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Tyler? Okay Tyler, he said Tyler, And I'm like, no, no, no,
he meant Tyler.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, Okay, okay, Okay, got you guys.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I said Sam's fashion and Tyler produced Joja Cat produces.
But I don't think she does the degree that that
Tyler creator does. And Tyler has a like his fashion
ship is over here too. But I would I would
put Joe kind of like what yeah, That's.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
All I'm saying. And there's no disrespect to Tyler.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I think she feel weird, but.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm just saying for you to say that. I was like,
how are you comparing that? Okay?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, I would put her more in a comparison there
than NICKI, who obviously does have pop hits and does sing,
but Nicki is, at the end of the day, like
you think rapper first, hardcore rapper first, whereas Dojah, you know,
is spread across the whole spectrum when it comes to music.
This album being one of those where she's rapping. I
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love her raps, but that wasn't the focus on this.
This was way more melodic, way way more in the
sense like this was.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It was an eighties pop album.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Yeah, my only critique of it because I really do
love it, it's a little too on the nose of
eighties pop. I would have liked her to make it
more of her own.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I think it is like straight up.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Like, hey, I'm making an eighties pop album. No, no, no,
not in that like it doesn't need to be warmer.
It's just like like all right, day and night. To
me was like a cutty It was a weird version
of like an eighties pop record, but cutt he made
it his own and made it in this time. This
doesn't sound like an eighties album in twenty twenty five.
It just sounds like an eighties pop album that Doja
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Kata singing rapping over, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I think it's great I think that's I think that's
what she was trying to do. Now, the content is
definitely Dojah. Helly what she's saying, she's talking talking, but
the music is I think that's what she wanted. She
wanted to kind of capture that sound that you know,
that that energy of eighties pop, and I think she
did that, but she's I think she still kept the
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Dojah with the lyrics.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah, this is definitely a tour that I will pay.
Oh no, I'm going to the show like this is
going to be I'm going to the show at the.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Garden without a doubt. I'm not missing Doja again. It's
not happening.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
What happens when like the lights go too crazy? Epilepsy?
What do you get? I would like, I want to
get epilepsy at the Garden.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I'm ali if it's eighties themes.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
With all the lasers, like, yeah, I want this to
be that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, I'm definitely going not. I was mad I missed
her last tour. We got to l A. I think
the day after she just ended the tour. That's not
happening this shit. I will be at the Garden for
that Doja show without a doubt. Got to see her live.
She's one of those artists that I just I feel
like I have to see it. I have to actually
go to the show and just just see it and
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feel the energy and what her fan base is.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I'm mad I miss Global Citizen Fest in New York
this weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
What is that?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
It was like a kind of like a not really
a festival, but a festival Global Citizen. They had Tyler,
they had Cardi b up there performing pregnant. They had
Maria Scientists, the had a bunch of people that was heartbroken.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Dope.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
No, I don't think do perform, but it was a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I never heard of Global City really wow.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah, it was a New York this week so.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
It's just like a festival of Yeah, it's been going
on for for a while now.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Was it at Shakee Stadium.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
No, it was on some lawn.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It was on some lawn for real. Oh, Central Park
is a lawn, so yeah, I get it. Pharrell, Alicia Keys,
One Republic, her, Carol King.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, that's very old. That's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Baby, Oh that was when the world was Okay.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Yeah, I'm like her. Yeah, it is called the Great
Lawn in Central Park. I know, I Wasn't Crazy Carter
by Tyler Iris Star Marida Scientists Camillo Eleon Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Okay, oh I'm sure that was fun.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah we missed it, but fine.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Well yeah, check out Doja Cat's album. I'm curious to
see what the visuals look like on this. I'm actually
shocked with that type of production that she didn't release,
like similar like what Beyonce did with this self titled album,
like a visual for every single song, because this is
one of those that I think, like every song warrants.
Even if they did, like a short film of all
the songs, I think that would make sense because there's
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so much you can do with that eighties pop shit
for sure. But yeah, other than that, she's been on
a run, I mean the last from twenty twenty one
to twenty twenty five four projects. Like she's staying super
consistent for being an A list.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Artist, Like she's incredible. Man, I love Doja Cat like
I'm like a Doja Cat fan. I love that like
a real Doja Cat fan.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Maybe should come on the pod.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, let's get Dojo on man, do I might dam
let me I DM and see if she she responds.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
If she can't come on we can maybe just do
like a like a chat online.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah something, Yes, a little chat. Her having the zooms room,
she can show us her feet.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Now, she's not gonna as her bad bunny impression favor
keep the theme of the racist chat.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Well, this week, have y'all been on the internet? The
internet been internet and what happened?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I don't even know. I went back to what happened
on the internet. What happened on the internet this week?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
A lot of ship, a lot of ship that we
don't have to talk about exactly, but I'm sure, I mean,
we're gonna talk about it. But Nikki Cardi, do we.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Say merchants available? Yes, Nikki Cardi, JT.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Santana something like important like the continued genocide and Gaza.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
You talk about Carti and Nikki.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's that's not happening. That's happening in the room.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
I thought you're talking about like a real conflict, the
way you concerned about how we've come.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
From agreement that they're gonna stop killing people and on
the Gaza strip.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Like I thought that's what we to a oh my back,
they're talking about the government shutting down this week.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, No, that's happening in real life, not the internet.
Got you've been on the internet.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Ok, Okay, no I haven't been on the internet. So
what happened on the internet?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Baby?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
To give it to us.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
So there has been some conflict between the female rappers.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I thought you're about to save kids real You say conflict.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Good, I'm sorry. Good.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Look at how we use words though, Yeah, the same
thing is a conflict.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's not a conflict. They beat.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Nobody's conflicted.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
They made each other, they beefing, it's all out war like.
It is what it is. But give it to us.
Give it to the people that may not know what
happened on the internet, baby, Go to.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
The people who may not know what happened on the internet. Basically,
Cardi and Nikki been on there talking about each other's kids.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Again.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, it's but it's bad. It got really bad.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
It got bad to the point where like everybody was
kind of like, y'all need to stop. Like when you're
sending direct insults to the children, calling the children slow,
saying they banging spoons, talking about the children's teeth.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, it got bad.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
They make fun of Nikki's child because they're saying they
there's a rumor that Nicki's child is non verbal or autistic.
So Cardi attacked that because Nikki, I mean, because Nikki
was attacking culture and talking about her gums and talk.
It was just bad. It was just got really really
bad and nasty, like really really bad and nasty. And
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it has gotten to the point where people are kind
of like pulling out of it. It's not even like
entertaining anymore. And I just kind of wanted you guys's
opinions on I know, we say, like, for example, the
pedophile bar was too far right, allegedly, the pedophile bar
was too far talking about kids is obviously too far.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And you're not even rhyming, yeah, like, oh.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
No, there was a whole bunch of ABCD in there. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
But I mean, anytime the barbs say hey, maybe we
should pull back a bit and have some civil discourse,
you know, something.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Is really really wrong. This is this is weird.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I also don't care about the theory that Nikki is
only saying the things that Carti has said about people
in the past to put the mirror and we just
don't understand the triple on tendras. This is gross and
disgusting on both sides. I don't care who started who
said the kids shit first. Both people are participated and
are still participating to continue to talk about children. This
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is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen two A
list artists trying to one up each other on Twitter
about who can insult their child the most.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I know we can have the lols? What the fuck
is this? Who on either side?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Family members, baby fathers, husbands, anybody.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Somebody just rip out the Verizon wireless shit in their house?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Yeah. The PR people are at home too. On her like,
I would just be chewing my fingernails off if I
was third PR, Like, what about here?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
For?
Speaker 6 (26:04):
What is my job?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I got?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
I got eight hours of sleep and woke up and
they were still they were just going through more kids.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
It got bad, and allegedly it started from obviously Carti's
rollout and everything. Her rollout was going great and everything,
and then Nicki started, you know, tweeting stats and little
things like that, and then she started was she started
mocking some things that Carti was saying on her album,
and that sent Carti into a blind rage. And my
thing is I just we've said it before. I just
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want Cardi to stop taking the bait, because now we
were just talking about how she had a great album,
great rollout, everything was going great. She did what everybody
wanted her to do, And now you don't let yourself
get pulled into some mess and now no one's talking
about that, they're talking about this.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Well.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Also on Nicki's side, Carti kind of said the same
thing we were saying a few episodes ago of Nicki
even posting her album date or even getting involved during
this rollout, Like now you're putting yourself you're the goat.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Cardi's like, I have.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Two albums out. You came out when I was in
high school. Like what now we're now we're the same.
Why are you even entertaining me if you're supposed to
be up here? Why the fuck is my rollout part
of your rollout?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Now for next year? Nicki has now put Cardi at
the exact same level.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, but that's I mean, card wasn't she on the
phone screaming at Ice Spice and her people. Ice Spice
is younger than her, She came out, her album came
out when Ice Spicer was in high school. Like, so
none of that matters at an age and when you
came out, if you don't like somebody, got issue with somebody,
you expressed it. I think this is the wrong way
to express it. I think there's the wrong way to
go about it. I think it's distasteful. I think it's
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you know, but I mean, listen, man, people don't like
each other. We know that people are, you know, competitive women.
When you have women involved, they can become very caddy
and very you know, just just because that's the thing
that women have in them. You know, they have that
ability to kind of like keep receipts and you know,
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weaponize things with family and you know, personal things about
each other. And you know, I mean, it's unfortunate that
it's Cardi and Niki, But I mean, is it surprising
anybody at this point? Obviously these two women don't like
each other.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
We know that there's other ways to express not liking.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Someone, Yeah, through the music.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Sweet Away.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
I just don't know why kids have to come into
anything whatsoever to this degree. I'm not saying there hasn't
been in the past when it comes to hip hop,
that kids haven't been involved little shots here and there.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I'm not saying that hasn't happened. I'm not saying.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
These two are the first people to ever bring children
into a verbal altercation, but to this degree, it's been
three days of just trying to one up kids that
are like three and four years old. Who could say
a nastier thing about a child? Kendrick has he said
nasty things about children.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
He called drag a petal fall.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
But that's not him attacking his child.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, that's what I'm saying. Drake is a pedophile. You
know what a pedophile is.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I do know what a pedophile is, but it's not
attacking a child. It's not talking about a child, not.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
A specific child. Yeah, but it's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay, fair, But completely aside from that, with this conversation
calling children out of their name and then talking about
certain issues or physical appearance, this is fucking gross.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
It is like what type of adult or parent would
even feel comfortable doing this? And listen two cars credit.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I know she would say, what would you say if
somebody says something about your kid? Maybe you'd get a
tweet out of me, but maybe probably just silence. And
I'm not calling for anyone violence whatsoever, But if you
think I'm going tit for tat on Twitter once you
bring up my kid.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
No, well that's what she said, she said, I don't
even want to keep doing this at this point. You
got to see me.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
But insinuating anything, I'm just saying it would be quiet
if it got.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
To that line. There would be no banter back and forth.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, I agree, I wholeheartedly. I agree.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Yeah, I I know there are so there are some
conspiracy theories that Cardi and Nikki are the stupidest fucking
conspiracy theories. But people are like, they're working together for this,
and at this point, I'm like, they're not working together.
But what I am what I would like to know
is someone is sitting there thinking that this is good
marketing and I'm just wondering where the line is drawn.
(30:27):
Because there is a thing as there is such a
thing as bad publicity. Not all publicity is good publicity.
This has to look shitty for whatever brands they work with.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
This looks bad. If I'm the.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
CEO of a major company and I have a partnership
with somebody, or I'm paying somebody to sponsor my brand,
I would never want them attached to this. I don't
care who started first. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
But why do you say it looks bad?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
These are grown women attacking children?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah, like that looks bad for a brand. If I'm
the CEO of a major, major brand, Yeah, I don't
want this person attached to my brand.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I mean, I get it. But what you're saying is correct.
When you start talking about each other's children, you know,
now that's a whole different level of disrespect and you know,
just nasty things to say. But if we if we're
being real, that's just that. Not our culture of hip hop?
(31:30):
Who can say the worship about each other? Who can
disrespect each other the most? Who can? Is that?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Not?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It is this that? Like I'm not, I'm not as
surprised as anybody else's. Like granted, yeah, they're talking about kids,
but it's like.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Okay, okay, but you don't think there's an arena for that,
Like they're not on they're not on stage at Summer Madness.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
That you are. Oh yeah, so that's the only place
I can think where they.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
This isn't to me, No, this isn't hip hop.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yes, or the two people involved in this verbal altercation,
both hip hop and both rappers. Of course, that's that's
not hip hop. Tweeting about someone's kid is not hip
hop to me.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
So I'm not quite sure of your example.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
I mean, of course, in rap battles, yeah, there's probably
no rules and a lot of stuff, whether we agree
or not. They've said insane things in your rol that
I could not even believe. People stand there and just
take it. They have the patience of a fucking jedi.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
So this is cool.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
This is this is just two people insulting each other's kids.
There's nothing hipnot Just because they both rap doesn't make
it hip hop.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So if it was a beat and they said these.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I would say, this is a nasty battle.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
That's what I was.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
This is a really nasty battle, all right, So this
this is acapoco.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's all we just got to.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
But I just when Damarisar said nobody rhymed yet, this
is just statement.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I so card he say something. She was kind of
rapping on one of us. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
But then it just got to that line.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Whenever Nikki had said culture whatever, I was like, well,
here we go and four hour straight of just naming kids.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's unfortunate too for
it to play out like that. And again, you know,
whenever you start disrespecting each other's kids, it's reached a
whole different, whole different tone, a whole different level. So
I mean, I came here last week. You know, y'all
know how I feel about Nikki. You know how I
feel about Cardi. I came in here, tried to you know,
throw Nicki some bad saying, nah, what's your naun style?
I was like, nah, I ain't got nothing to do
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with Cardi. That's just you know, Nikki. But it's clear
as day like they these two women just absolutely do
not like each other for whatever. I don't even know
where they started. I don't know what was the cause
of it. At first, years ago, I thought it was
just a competitive thing, you know, Nikki being the top
dog and you know, here comes Cardi. They're trying to
play somebody in that lane and kind of give you know,
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healthy competition to whoever the top female MC is, which
we understand in music. So I just thought it was
a competitive thing, and I thought, you know, fan bases,
you know, add to that and fuel that a little bit.
But it was it was okay because it seemed like
it was just a competitive rap thing like who's the
top female rapper? But now it's going way too left.
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It's it's personal. It's a lot of behind the scenes shit.
I believe that's going on on both sides. Things that
are being said, information that is being fed both ways,
a lot of pillow talking, a lot of you know.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
So the rumor, the rumors that Nikki is schizophrenic are
on drugs, right, why is that the ruin there's there's
been because of the things that the rants that she
goes on, people would say that they don't connect accusing
jay Z of trying to kill her and ruin her
career or of like that whole jay Z rock Nation thing.
(34:41):
Even when she was arguing with Carti, she was throwing
that out there, like she's been attacking jay Z for
like a year now, damn it.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So and it's just certain things that like saying.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
That, oh, they set Juice World up to be killed
on her birthday, like things like that, like Maul, I'm
asking you as like a bar like you don't are
you not seeing anything weird or like maybe anything like
a red flag like this is not making sense, like
this is not normal human behavior.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, but I'm not trying drugs and schizophrenia into it.
I think that Nikki is just saying things that she feel.
Maybe maybe she has information that we don't have. I mean,
I don't know, but I don't. I don't. I don't
go to drugs and schizophrene. Like, if we didn't hear that,
if we didn't hear that that Cardi rant about Ice Spice,
would one say she was on drugs and when she
was on the phone yelling at whoever she was yelling at,
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somebody would say that's a drugged out her tweaking out
on the phone though, just because she's not tweeting it,
but she's actually yelling it over the phone.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Okay, So there's a difference between like getting upset about
something I don't people don't control. People don't attribute you
cussing somebody out or going off to drugs like that's
not that's just you just mad, you pissed the fuck
off when shit is not making sense or like connected.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But that's what I'm saying. Maybe she has information we
don't have. This is Minaj.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Do you think do you think jay Z is out
to ruin Nicki Minaj's career?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And I don't think that I'm saying NICKI may have
information where she thinks that I can't call somebody drugged
down and schizophrenic because they're saying something that I'm not
informed about or I don't believe. To me, that's not
that's not a fair To put that on somebody is
not fair. Now, Do I think going on Twitter and
expressing that is the best thing?
Speaker 5 (36:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I think that's like, why would you even do that? Like,
because first of all, nobody cares on Twitter. I can
promise you that nobody gives a fuck. So going on
there and expressing these things that you feel are true
and you think are real for what, Like that doesn't
the people on there. They're just gonna use that for
memes and to say you're on drugs and like, they
(36:44):
don't care about that. So to me expressing it there,
to me, it makes no sense. I never understood why
people run to social media and express things like this
as if people can I promise you people do not
give a fuck. But well, I just can't go to
Parbes diagnosed with somebody with schizophrenia and being drugged out
because of what they're tweeting. I'm not doing that. I can't.
(37:07):
I can't do that, because sometimes you do that and
you're wrong, and then now you look like an insensitive
person because it's like, oh shit, this person wasn't just
going crazy on their Twitter and saying things like that
was really happening, And sometimes it's not happening, you know
what I'm saying. But again, I don't put I'm not
here to diagnose somebody with schizophrenia and being on drugs.
(37:27):
I don't do that. I don't run to that.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I want to ask you a question actually, because I
value your opinion. I value your opinion. So I was
reading my devotional today and the message was about forgiveness, right,
being able to forgive people that have hurt you, because
as God has forgiven us for our sins, and I've
sent many a time. Amen, how do you feel about
(37:54):
being able to forgive somebody even if you don't want
them in your life anymore? Somebody that did some fucked
up shit to you and you don't want them in
your life anymore, are you still able to forgive them?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I think it depends on where you're at mentally emotionally.
If you're at that, if you're that mature, yeah, I've
done it. I forgive people that have done some crazy
shit to me that most people probably wouldn't forgive, but
me not forgiving them does what you know what I'm saying,
I think that energy is just on you. But when
(38:26):
you forgive, you like listen, it's all good and you
kind of just move forward. I think I think that's
a little easier sometimes because it's not on you. It's
not like a constant thought or you know, something that
you're constantly thinking of. It's like I'm over that. I've
grown since that, I've matured since that. But you have
to be at that point though, you have to be
(38:47):
at that point in your life where you just like
because when I was younger, like you know what, I
battled with that a lot, with finding out who killed
my brother, and I think about that a lot, Like
if I was to find out, now, what will my
reaction be, what I want revenge? Or would I just
be like, you know, kind of like forgive, move forward,
(39:10):
because that's what the Koran says, right, forgive, And you
know what I'm saying, you move. But it's like it
depends on what day you ask me that just being honest,
you know what I'm saying. Some days I'm like fuck no, nigga,
gladly go sit down in prison to revenge my brother's death,
you know what I'm saying. But then in some days
where I'm like, I can't put my mom's dorough that,
I can't put my nieces and nephews do that, I
(39:31):
can't put my brothers and sisters do that, like them
having to come visit me in prison and all, Like
you know what I'm saying. So you battle and that's like,
you know, that's like the biggest thing they try to
forgive somebody for us is taking the life of one
of your loved ones. But it's like you have to
get to that point where it's like, nah, I forgive
and I move forward with my life. Family is blessed,
family is healthy. You look at those things and you
(39:54):
kind of compare it to what would be the point
of me not forgiving this person? Like what is that?
What does that do? Now? Again, depends on which day
you ask me. Some days I'm strong and some days
I'm weak as a motherfucker. If you ask me in
the week day, wait that nigga, at I'm ready to go.
After we did three episodes, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm
ready to raise hell. I'm ready to raise hell. I'm
(40:17):
ready to raise hell like kill everybody, you know what
I'm saying. But then it's some days where you know,
I get videos of my nephew playing golf, and I'm
just like, damn, my nephew like golf. That's fire like.
And I want to see him grow and see him
become a man and do things like do I want
to do that? From a prison, you get me like
(40:37):
you start thinking about the things that you won't be
here for and the things that you're missed. Me talking
to my homeboys that's locked up and hearing how they
talk about not being around for their kids and not
being around for their family, like you, weigh a lot
of those things, and forgiveness sometimes is the best, is
the best choice, and just to move on.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Even if you never get an apology.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Even if you never get an because sometimes you don't
need it. There's plenty of things that I moved on
from that I don't want an apology from. I don't
care to get an apology from. Like it's like for what,
like I don't I don't even This person to me
is not even I don't care to have an apology
for you, Like it's just just stay out my way though,
you know what I'm saying, like that, we ain't gonna
be hanging out kicking it. It ain't none of that.
(41:21):
I ain't that strong, you know what I'm saying. But
it's just like you know, I'm not tripping either though,
Like I'm not bent out of shape. I'm not looking
for no apology. I'm not looking for life goes on
man as tough as it's, as tough as that is,
sometimes to just accept life does go on, you know
what I'm saying, And you have to go with life,
like all right, it is what it is. Never forget.
(41:41):
You don't forget what you've been through. You don't forget
what you went through. You don't forget those feelings and
those emotions. But you learn from them, you grow from them,
and you you know, you kind of say, all right, well,
I have to move with life. Life, life goes on
to me. I mean, I'm just speaking for myself. I
can't speak to everybody, but I think it's easier sometimes
it's just kind of just give and move forward.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
My My biggest thing is I have a hard time
when not getting the apology I need because now you're
giving that person.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Too much power, too much, You're giving them too much,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you don't what you need,
what you need, what you need that person, because that's ego.
A lot of that is ego that you're talking about,
like what you need that person.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Because I apologize.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
I hate when a motherfucker like when I know I'm right,
Like I know I'm right, like in this scenario, I
know I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
I know I'm right, and you just won't give that
to me.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
And I know that that is ego, right, I know
that that's ego and that I need to let that go.
But it's like, nah, you need to fucking apologize, but
you know because you're not even you're not even sorry.
You ain't even gonna even going to pretend to be sorry.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
But you know what it is, though, demarags Like when
you know you right, the truth speaks for you. You
ain't got to say a motherfucking thing. Sometimes you just
watch the truth speak and you just sit there just
looking at anybody Like I tried to tell you all
niggas this however long ago. So something you don't you
don't need no apology from nobody for what. Nah, you
(43:06):
don't you don't need. That's we tell ourselves that that's
ego talking to us, and now you gotta say sorry,
she got Nah, she fucked that. She gotta apologize for
that shit for what she know she know or he know,
he know the truth, he know the real like that
she's gonna eat them up every You know, sometimes when
you just remove yourself from people, like your presence and
(43:27):
your energy, that's all you don't need. No, I don't
need no apology from nobody. You ain't gotta say I'm sorry,
I was fucked up. It was my foot. I don't
need that because you ain't stop nothing. It's been lit
since that, like very shit been, you know what I mean.
So you you look at that, all that other shit
is just your ego talking to you, Like, you don't
(43:47):
need that shit. Man, we put too much on our ear.
But again I know because I've been in those situations too.
I'm like, I didn't even need that, Like that was stupid,
but that was your ego. But as you get a
little older, you start understanding like it's gonna like the
day going in and hopefully you see the next day
and that's it. Just move forward. You don't need people
(44:07):
to tell you that they fucked up, y'all, I was wrong.
They know that already, and if they get to a
place where they are ready to say that and admit
that and then cool. But you don't need that, though, Like,
so we gotta stop saying I need not. They gotta
sick for what?
Speaker 6 (44:22):
How do you get better at not operating out of
your ego as as an adult. I've been struggling more
with that with my relationship, Like I peep it now
right because I peep it because I'm in a healthier relationship.
When I was a very bad space in a different relationship,
it was okay for the eagle to fly because we
was just doing a whole bunch of toxic shit anyway.
But now that I'm trying to be in a healthy relationship,
(44:43):
I see my ego creep up. I'm like, ooh, that
was that was ego. That wasn't necessary, or that wasn't
or so I'm trying to get better at recognizing it
and not speaking from it. But it's like in the
back of my mind, I'm like, if something goes wrong
and I didn't flex my ego I'm gonna regret it,
and I'm trying to get out of that mind state.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But the fact that you're trying to get out of
it is great. That means because you recognize it, like yo,
that's unnecessary, so that right there is enough. Eventually you'll
just see that you're just doing it like you just
completely remove yourself from having that ego where it's just
like because that again, it's everybody got their shit, Everybody
got their faults, everybody, nobody's perfect life is tough for everybody.
(45:25):
Some people's lives are tougher than yours. So when you
just look at shit like that, like from that perspective, like,
let me remove myself and my emotions from this and
let me just assess the situation, what happened, what's going on.
Once you do that, or you realize first a lot
of the times the energy you be trying to put
into shit ain't even worth it. The situation ain't that
serious to moment, ain't that serious. It's just like, remove
(45:47):
that ego. Cool. As long as somebody put their hands
on you, nobody ain't physically because I need my look back.
You hit me, nigga, I'm hitting back. That's what we're doing.
But if it's just actions and some somebody said, I
don't care about that man, that shit is, that's all
ego talking to you. And you get to a point
in life where you just like, no matter what happens,
I'm gonna do what I want to do. I'm gonna
(46:08):
enjoy myself, Like whether people are alone for the ride
or not, we're gonna have fun. Ego will stop you
from experiencing and really enjoying a lot of shit because
you so caught up in your own thoughts, in your
own mind of what you how you feel like it's
supposed to go, and how you feel like it's no,
it's not. Sometimes it's just it's not what you overthinking
(46:29):
a lot of you overanalyzing a lot of that shit.
A lot of times we make up situations that's not
even a real thing, Like that's not even I hear
people like, yo, I don't fuck with that. What happened?
And then niggas tell you what happened you to be like,
that's what happened, Like that's what all this y'all back
and forth for that, Like it means it's like yo, y'all,
just it's ego talking. Yeah, and that's just but that again,
that's human nature. We all have it, we all have
(46:51):
been through it. But then you get to a point
where you understand how to control it. You understand when
and where to use your e because ego is good.
It's good to have an ego, but you gotta underst
and winning way to use it though, and how to
use it. Like sometimes you need ego for competitive things
and things like that, like to kind of talk to
yourself and get yourself going. But like pushing it on
situations that's not even like serious or worth it. That's
(47:14):
that's that's just immaturity. That's stupid.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Damn, that's some real ass wisdom coming from the birthday boy.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
So, I mean, I'm just you know, I'm just trying,
just trying to tell you know, mean how it is.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
When you live long enough, you start looking at shit
like that was stupid. I should have never said that.
I should have never did that. And I mean, I live.
We I'm in front of a mic and on camera,
like you know, how much should I say anythings years
ago down here? And I'm like, damn, I don't even
I'm not even that personal more. But it's real, and
the moment is how I felt. If I'm old and
more mature now, of course I don't feel those ways
(47:47):
and think like that. I would hope that I've grown
and matured since ten years ago. You know what I'm saying.
Like shit, I said ten to eleven years ago. No,
I don't feel the way about a lot of those
things anymore. But in the moment, yeah, I may have
felt like that, but that's where I was at in
my life in that moment, and that's just you got
to accept that from anybody like that's just who they are.
But again, when you start analyzing ship, just remove your
(48:09):
ego from it a lot of times and just kind
of look at the whole situation and you'll land on
the right side. Once your ego is going, it's easier
to kind of kind of hit the mark. At least
that's what I think. You know, I'm just giving you
what I think. So in relationships, just remove your ego
a little bit. Why he ain't called me, why he
ain't mine is born might be melting. This nigga might
(48:31):
be going through a fucking depressed state. He ain't verbalize it,
he ain't talked about it. It'd be a lot of
that too. You've been like, yo, why he ain't why
he is depressed or she's depressed. That's what I'm saying.
It ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
With My problem is that I need everything to be like.
I can be very tip for tat, I can be
very like, are you doing this? I gotta double it.
That's like I gotta stop. I know, I know, I know,
I'm aware, and I try to. I try to get
better at it. But it's like you way too long
text me back back. Not in my current relationship, I
would you go to text me back? I'm I'm a double.
(49:04):
I'm a double the time you take twenty two hours
to text me back, I'm gonna take three tex.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Stemma from, though, where do you think that's stemma from?
Speaker 6 (49:11):
If I was to be real honest with myself, like real,
real deep, what I think a therapist would say is
that there's an insecurity in making sure nobody plays with me.
I don't I don't ever want I don't want anybody
to play with me. I never want to look stupid.
And if I was to dig real world deep into that,
it's probably because of shit that I endured in childhood
(49:32):
where I was embarrassed a lot as a kid just
because of like family shit or things like that, and
it's just like, I never want to be embarrassed again.
I take embarrassment really really hard. So I think that
it's it's that it's like I'm never going to give
you the chance to say that you had like one
up on me, Like I don't like that feeling. I
don't like that feeling of like not being in control
(49:55):
or somebody knowing something that I don't know, Like I'm
very nosy. That's why I used to have that phone problem.
Not even because I would feel like I always feel
like somebody was cheating. It was just like I never
I used to go through my friend's phones when I
was in middle school. In high school, I would go
and search my name like because it was like or
like in college, because I would feel like, Yo, are
you talking about me behind my back? Like is there
something that you know that I don't know? Is there
something you're saying about me that I don't know. I
(50:17):
don't like that feeling, And I'm trying to let go
of that because at one point I can see, oh,
this has the potential to rule my relationship with somebody
that I love and I care about, because I don't
trust that what they what they say they feel about me,
they actually feel about me. And that has more to
do with I'm sure my own self worth or shit
that I've gone through than anything that they've shown me.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
So I'm aware of that.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
So what we all have an insecurity securities ego?
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, human nature, human nature, But I'm getting better.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Getting old and mature in and realizing your flaws and
making those, you know, your strengths and kind of working
on that. That's that's it. It'd happened. But I'm glad
that you understand that that's exactly what that is, in
security ego and shit like that, because that's all it
is once you remove of that. Because either way, if
you do searching man's phone that he's cheating, then what
then what?
Speaker 5 (51:06):
Then?
Speaker 2 (51:06):
What then what?
Speaker 1 (51:08):
So it's just like either way it goes, your heart
gonna be broken either way, that's what you're gonna be.
All right, Hello, you're gonna move on. Life goes on.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Right.
Speaker 6 (51:17):
If that nigga don't work, get another one, that one
don't work, get another one. Don't see me come on
this podcast and be madly heartbroken and then come in
what a month later, it was like, oh my god,
I'm the happiest I've ever been in my time.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's like clockwork. As the seasons changed, SODA's Baby D.
As the seasons changed, Sodas Baby d. I get it,
it's all good. But you know, remove that ego in
securities and you know we're gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
We're gonna be good.
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