November 2, 2025 • 39 mins
This week on New Rory & Mal, Rory is on vacation so Demaris takes over as co-host. Demaris and Mal recap the Cash Money vs No Limit Verzuz, and debate whether or not hip-hop is officially dead. #volume
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, So Baby d it was brought to my attention.
We were talking about hip hop being dad. You know
they've been saying, we were saying that for is is
hip hop dad? Is hip hop dad? So in September,
four hip hop songs were on the global charts. In
September five years ago, there were fifty six on the
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global charts. That's a big drop, it is. That's over
ninety gone.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Right. We had a talk with berg Shot, the hit maker.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He came by to set last week and he posed
a question because we were saying, you know, women are
dominating rap right now as far as like they're being
more stars, newer stars and rap, most of them are women.
And he said, well, name you know some stars, superstars
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under thirty five on the men's side, like, don't name
the legacy acts, don't name the guys that have been
in for years. And it's stumped us. It was obviously
the NBA young boy. You know, we we we acknowledge that.
Not saying you know, but it is interesting to see
women dominating hip hop rap now and then now in
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September only four hip hop songs on the global charts.
I'm not saying this is women's fault, how you Okay, no, no,
just listen. But we have to because this is just data,
this is analytics, like right now, Yes, women are dominating.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, So that's why I want to stop you. Because
women are not dominating rap. How because them four songs
that are on the global charts, I guarantee that they're
not women's songs unless it's from Cardi's album. What were
the four Josh, can you look up the four hip
hop songs that were on the global charts.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Women are not dominating rap. Women.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
There are more, No, there are more women hip hop
stars than ever before.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's but that doesn't mean that they're dominating rap because
there's still way more men than them.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The men.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The stars though, the stars.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The stars that people would consider stars would be NB,
a young boy, playboy, Carti, Travis Scott, Cardi, b those
would be who people would consider the big big stars
and be a young boy, Travis Scott, playboy, Cardi, I
don't look straight. But but the charts do they acknowledge it.
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They don't acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
They categorize it. He's rap. So but I think that's
the issue.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So you can continue what you were going to say
as far as like, do we connect it to more
women being there?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But I'm going to disagree with you. I don't think
that that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think it's that we took the R and B
out of hip hop, we took the the soulfulness, we
took the soulfulness out of hip hop, and that is
what made it more palatable to other genres.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I guess it's a lot of that baked into it too.
I'm not saying that the fact that we have just
women dominating or more women dominating rap right now than
we've probably ever had. I'm not saying that's the sole
reason for it. There's a lot of things that we
can put into it. But to me, I think we
start there because we've never had this many women rap
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stars before at one time.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's like every day we turn around, it's like, oh shit,
like another female MC has coming and she's got a.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Dope reckon and it's like, okay, cool. But does that sustain?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Obviously not, The music in general is not sustaining, Like
a lot of music like we happy to get mob
deep albums and everything that you know they're doing that massippeal,
We happy to get all of it. And these are
all legacy artists. These are all legacy acts dropping new music.
But as far as like the newer artists, hip hop
is in a scary place. I think hip hop is
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in a very very scary place. I think that it's
a conversation that you know, we all need to start
having and really looking at, like damn, like what is
if this happened in five years? If only four hip
hop songs are charting on today's global Spotify chart, like,
what does the next five years look like?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So the songs that are charting are you see you Again?
I'm gonna assume that that's the with Khalifa see You Again?
All the Stars obviously by Sizza and Kendrick, both which
have R and B hooks. And who is timeless in
the weekend?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The weekend in play work CARDI right, Okay, it's not rap,
that's the weekend that ain't rap?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And then what's the other one? No pole? Who is that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh this is or they calling that that weekend record
hip hop? See what I'm saying, that's where get tricky.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, but even still if you see those are all
they have R and bok So it's like that's palatable
to a wider audience. When you're talking about Lobal, that's
palatable to a wider audience. The soul, the R and B,
which is the reason why all of our artists when
they were doing soul and R and B music back
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in the day was so widespread.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So when you bring hip hop into it and you
got them banging versus and a good ass hook, like
people could listen to that straight rap going through or
these bullshit where they're like doing this drill rap and
then they're also singing the hooks and it don't sound
good because they can't fucking sing like it's just which
I blame Kanye and Drink for that shit.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
By the way, what rappers singing their own hooks?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But rappers to always sing their own hooks, you know,
that was like a thing at one point, like not
all of them, no, most rappers used to do their
own hooks though. When I mean, you just go back
and listen to like a lot of the biggie shit,
a lot of Tupac shit, a lot of early jay
Z shit, a lot of nahs, shit, a lot like
they were.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Doing their own.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well yeah, but when I'm thinking, so, what year did
they say they were fifty six?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
They said it was how many? Five years ago? Five
years ago? This is Spotify's top.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's what the is. Okay, Oh, this is just Spotify's
top two hundred most stream tracks. Yes, okay, okay, but
still yeah, it should be more than four. I just
think that it's a it's a conversation, man like, and
we talk about it a lot, like you know, now
you listen to a song, it's almost like as good
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as we all felt the Clips album was when it
came out, right, I haven't played that album in weeks.
I'm talking about not a single song I played in weeks,
and I like it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I liked the album. I thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I played it back to back to back when it
first came out, and then I revisit it every once
in a while. But I don't play it as often
as I did when it first came out. But I
still do play it pretty often. People don't understand that
it's this It's that phone.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Our parents were right, Is this damn phone?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
This, this, the phone is killing music as much as
we don't want to admit it.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
The phone is is how we listen to it. Like
if I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Playing an album right now, I'm connected to the speakers
in the crib and I'm playing, I'm listening somebody call me,
somebody send me some video to look at.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I look at.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I might not even go back to the album tonight.
Now them fell into a conversation about whatever. Somebody texts
me da da da, get on the phone, Like it's
not this takes away from the music experience. As much
as I love it because it is very convenient. I
can pull up a song. I can hum a melody
into my phone and don't even remember the words, and
it'll pull up the song and I can play it.
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So I love that part of it, but it definitely
has taken us away from experiencing music in the way
that we used to. Like before you get a CD
or you get a vinyl, you put it on. Niggas
could be in the crib fight and guess what that
music still playing. Somebody could call you on the phone.
I'm on the phone, music still playing, like I'm still
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in I'm still here I'm still listening in the moment,
I'm still consuming the music.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Now, don't playing it off my phone.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Something happens, you know whatever, whatever it's like, it pulled
me away from that I'm on the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But that's not just with music, with TV as well.
I could be watching the show, get a call something,
watching something on.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
My phone, never revisit it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't even know what just happened the last two episodes.
Shit just been running our attention.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Our attention span is so short.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I will also say that me personally, I don't know
if anybody else feels this way. When I tire of
songs quicker now because of Instagram. So when I'm doom scrolling,
which I do, do I have a problem. I need
to fix that. But when I'm doom scrolling on Instagram
and I'm doom scrolling on TikTok and people are creating content,
and I've heard that song a million times now, I'm
now tired of it. I might have heard it three
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times on my phone, but I've heard it one hundreds.
There are songs that I know full the words too,
that I've never downloaded, never heard of my phone, but
I know the words, simply because I've consumed so many,
so much content with that fucking song.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Songs live longer on social media, and they doing your
your in your in your home for sure, and in
your car because somebody posts a video that goes viral
with Doja cat playing in the background. M h, everybody,
we all seeing that shit. That shit keeps playing us
on the real you like, it lives longer on social
media than it does like then you live with it
in your personal time. And I mean again, I'm not
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saying it's a yeah, well yes, I am saying I
do think it's a negative thing. Yeah, I do, because
it's evident when you see charts like this, it's like, bro,
people are not I just feel like people are just not.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
As attached to the music as we once were.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Like in the quality of the music. Just let's be honest.
The quality of the music is just not good. It's
not as good. It's not there as good news.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The mean there has killed me years ago when I
said that, I was saying it was easier to get
in the music business.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And get I remember I remember.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Then it's ever nah, I know it's not how I
can I can be a no name this could be
my first album I ever recorded. And if Drake drops tonight,
guess who else can drop tonight? Me? I can put
my album on the same DSP. Nobody's ever heard of me.
But I could put my album.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
On the same DSP as Drake or Beyonce or whoever.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And this was my first part nobody's I'm not even
I just made this in my basement and it take off.
I can have a song that goes viral. Now I'm
getting booked over here. But though you know how hard
it was to do that, just not even let's say
twenty five years ago, like it was. You had to
really travel and go to these cities and go hand
in hand trying to get people to hear your shit. Now,
(10:31):
I just upload the record tonight. I could be a
star next Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And also, what the labels are looking for now, from
what I see, is no one's looking for the quality.
No one's sitting in these meetings and making these people
climb on the table like they did Bobby Schimurda and
perform as well.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
We needed to get away from that. Niggas don't need
to be on nobody's table.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Rapping like get away is no one is, there's no
quality control.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
What they're looking for is.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Coaching in Q they down there doing coach k And
what they're looking for is who has the attention.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And what people do to get attention nowadays is not
be talented, Like you can get be talented and get attention,
but that's not what everybody's going for. Everybody wants to
be some type of like I don't even want to
say content creator, but there's so many smoking mirrors and
like just fugezy shit going on, and shit that's making
people a star. That's how you get someone like some
of our some of our stars, I'm not going to
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say any names, but it's like you're not good, but
you've created this persona that the young kids have fallen
in love with and now they're a rock star and
they're demonic and it's going viral and you're doing clickbaity
shit and now you have like this hould base following
about a bunch of bullshit that's not good music, you
see what I'm saying. Like, so it's like their labels
(11:47):
are just looking for, well, who's all right, you got
a couple of songs out, who's getting the most? Well,
you got a lot of social media following or people
coming to your shows, this, this, this, this, and that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's they're not looking for good music, so bullshit slips
through the crack.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Bullshit is allowed to become the biggest, and then because
other shit doesn't look like bullshit, it makes it hard
for real shit. Now, when you make real shit, they're like, oh,
you're making old school hip hop, and it's like, no,
I'm not making old school hip hop.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm just making hip hop. I'm making actual rap.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But no one's sitting down and listen in the actual
rap anymore unless you already have our hearts.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Clips already has our hearts. If people would.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Have just came out, if Unknown people would have came
out with that CLIPS album, people wouldn't have fuck listened
to it. It wouldn't have gotten as much of you
know what I'm saying, nowhere near as much of attention,
no matter how good it was. But they have our
hearts already, So we're gonna go listen and be like, ah,
this is good.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
We've missed this.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But they're not gonna go do all the silly bullshit
that these other artists are gonna do to continue to
go viral and have viral sounds.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
And all of that shit.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So then you come into impass because now the internet
runs everything. So if you can't pop on the internet,
then you're.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Not gonna pop on the charts unless it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Because it was it used to be the reverse of that.
Like so you know again old enough to remember a
group like Milli Vanilli mm hmm, right, great record, great record,
but it was a thing where it was like, yeah,
but whoever made that record probably doesn't look like a star.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, right, now you just gotta look like a star.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We could tweak, we can, we can turn the knobs
on the in the studio and we could get the
sound to where where it need to be. But before
it used to be as long as the music is good,
that was we lead first. It's the music good. He
may not be a star, she may not be a star.
We don't even got to put them in the video.
We can use somebody because this is things that really happened.
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There was videos in the nineties where I come to
find out that ain't even the person who's on the record,
that's not even them, but they're in the video and
they portraying it like they're performing the record, and that's
not even a real artist.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So it went from that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It went from leading with the music being great to
now that's the second that's secondary.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Now it's like, yo, what what's your personality? Like?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know what I mean, what's your you knows? Do
people love the personality? Do they love the look, the aesthetic?
You know, the vibe, the energy? Okay, cool? Now we
could put music, we can put something together, we could
cook something up, get them in the studio with the
right person.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
We see it all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But then now what happens is you get something like
this chart that we have to sit and look back
and be like, damn only four. So it's a real
conversation to have. Man, I just I just feel like,
you know, again, being able to see the mini shifts
and changes in the landscape of music and things like that,
(14:36):
and being able to look back and things are looking
a little for the first time that I can remember.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You know, people are saying hip hop is dead for years.
That's you know, it's looking dead though. It's looking like
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We might have to start going to hospice and visiting
this mother, Like Yo, this nigga might be on his
way out.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Of y'all gotta start making hip hop music that the
old people and that the white people can comfortably rap.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's the only way the white people and the old
people got a comfortably rapid Well did you watch the
Cash Money Versus No Limit versus?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I did watch the Cash Money No Limit versus? Shout
out to Cash Money and No Limit. You know a
lot of people online today a little younger y'all don't
really know because.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You was using was young.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, you was like five six maybe four only No
Limit like person I know is little Romeo.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, see, you don't, y'all don't really know what this was.
But this was huge for uh, you know, just for
nostalgic purposes and just the legacy of two of the
most iconic labels in hip hop being Cash Money and
No Limit. But the one problem we was talking about
it before we started, why was this in Las Vegas?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Complex Con? Fuck that?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And I know Complex, shout out the Complex, We fuck
with Complex, But.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
We know Complex gave them a bag.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Of course we know they you know, because it was
Complex Con and this was you know, the performance at
Complex Con. But this had to be in New Orleans,
we were supposed to do this at the super Dome, like,
this was not.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
This is not Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Listen to the crowd wasn't really no, because I mean
it was people out there for complex con people traveled,
you know what I'm saying. So, but it's it wasn't.
It wasn't New Orleans. It wasn't. It wasn't that. I mean,
people obviously knew some of the songs. People you know,
happy to see the gods performance thing, But it wasn't.
The energy just wasn't what you hear when you when
you see Cash Money versus No Limit. Yeah, that has
(16:35):
to be in New Orleans. Yeah, you understand I'm saying, like,
that's that's just too much history. It's too much, you know,
just ties to like the community for real, everybody that's
still in the city of New Orleans. I know, Hurricane
Katrina kind of separated people, but you know the essence
of what Cash Money and No Limit have done for
that city, you gotta have them on stage in New Orleans.
(16:57):
So it was cool. It was cool seeing it. No
to Wayne No Turk, I don't know how I invested.
I am at that point when you say, you know,
Wayne is not gonna be there, Turk is not gonna
be there, And it's like.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So, well did they play little Wayne records? Though?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Uh, well, they played verses from from Wayne, you know,
obviously they had to play some of his his verses
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But why wasn't Wayne then?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like, I still don't understand where him and bird Man are, like,
you know, as far as personally, I don't know, you know,
if they're even on speaking terms at this point.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I really don't keefer. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I can't keep up with men that don't talk to
other men. That's just not my that's not my DNA.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
So who won? In my opinion?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Looking at it, I mean, it probably was different inside
the venue, but looking at it, I felt like no
limit one.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, I felt like no limit one.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I felt like the records just just hit a little
a little different. Now, don't get it twitted cash when
obviously juveniles there, you know, slow motion, I mean, that's
that's a that's a hood.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Okay, that's that's what you see.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You see what it does soon that you get you
ain't nobody playing nothing, and you just start slow winding
and your seat just when you hear the song, so yeah,
you know it was a couple don't get a twist
of cash money.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know, they put on a good show.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But looking at it, you know, from what I felt
just looking at it, I felt like no limit. Uh,
they got the best, the best of that night. And
now again that could be because again you don't got
you know, obviously the Juggernaut and Lil Wayne not being
there on stage, not.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It does you know, it takes away from it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
A lot of people saw it being closer than it
was because they assumed that with cash money came young money.
And I was like, I don't think that that's fair,
and I'm happy that they did they didn't do that, right, Yeah,
I'm happy that they didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I don't think that that's fair in a sense.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I mean, yeah, I understand why you say that, but
I mean it is cash money, young money. Yeah, like
you never heard any of the young money artists saying
young money. It didn't say cash money at the same time,
so you know, it's it's obviously ties did and affiliations,
but this was just from that era of cash money
before Drake NICKI, you know, Wayne obviously was was cash.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Money before Young Money.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But Wayne not being there, I think was just the
you know, it's like all right, man, like this is
you know, we get it. It was still cool to
see Juvie and you know, BG and baby silkmia X.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know, master P, master P.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Bro. Listen seeing master P perform those records and then
like really thinking about like the era that master P
had and dominated. We don't talk about your master P
played in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He was just doing shit.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You don't listen, you can't. That is like, I don't.
I really think we didn't stop. We didn't pause long
enough to really like salute master P for that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It wasn't he didn't play eighty two games in the season.
He wasn't on the start in Ross and all that
opening day. The fact that he was their preseason and
just out there he has a jersey, he was on
a floor with guys who played the full season.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Bro. That is that's almost like this.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is like movie shit, like you know when the movies
used to be like yo, he went on to play
in the NBA, Like this.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Is what that is.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
This is like the dude from the hood that was
on the block, you know, getting into some shit whatever,
whatever straighten out his life.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
They was like, yo, you gotta take this serious.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
He took it serious and really like did something that
he didn't you know, he didn't have a long career.
But the fact that he even got to that level.
You know how synonymous rap in basketball is, Yeah, it's
the same.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's one and the same.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The fact that master P did what he did in
music in the culture and actually played in a preseason
NBA game.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And went on to be one of the great It
was preseason? Correct? Was it preseason? So tell that is crazy?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Tell me about that because I know that we have
some somewhat of a younger audience, and by younger, even
the younger people we getting old now, so we might
not have been exactly around for that. Why did he
only play play preseason?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Like? Was he what happened?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well, I mean, it's the NBA at the end of
the day, Like, it's not you know, it's it's hard
for guys that are really good at basketball to make
the opening day roster and stay in the league. Like
that's you know, that's just not something that any and
everybody could do. So he wasn't that good. He wasn't
good enough to stay on an NBA roster.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But he was good. But he was good.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
He got to the you know, played in the preseason. Now,
some of it may have been just the lore of it.
Teams know what it did for marketing and things like that.
But still he got out there with it looked good
like he was. It wasn't like he was out there
and he looked crazy. He can play basket.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Was he better than Brownnie? Nah, he wasn't better than Bronnie. No,
we ain't doing not doing that. I know how you
felt about Bronnie. I was just.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean this podcast has been critical of him when
he got drafted to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So no, I mean I was I rooted for it.
I like it, but to.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But calling it nepotism exactly, don't get it. But that's
what was because because I mean master P didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Have nepotism, I was asking no, no, that's but yeah,
but no, Brownie is, Yes, Brownie will Bronnie right now
and master P back then if they played each other,
Brownie would destroy master There's no it's even like we're
not gonna do that, like he absolutely would. But I
mean I still support nepotism. I'm shout out to Brownie.
You know, I hope that he has a great career, But.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, we didn't. We didn't give We didn't the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It didn't stop long enough to really salute that moment
for master P. Like making a preseason NBA game like
that is something that we haven't seen we probably will
never see again. J Cole plays ball. He never was
on a preseason roster.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Did he play for like Africa or somewhere? Cole was
playing for? What have you seen? Have you seen them
African team?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Come on, we're not doing that, I'm gonna say. I'm
just saying it's it's just a difference. It's all I'm saying.
Shout out the Cole. You know he's trying to pursue
that too. But even J Cole knows how crazy it
is that master P played with the Raptors and the Hornets.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Okay, oh he two teams.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Like come on, man, this is what I'm saying, like,
did we didn't the coach? It didn't stop, We didn't pause
long enough to salute that. So shout out the master P,
Shout out the bird Man, shout out the cash money,
no limit, the versus again.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I would have liked. I would have liked to see
it in.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
New Orleans personally because just the energy would have been
completely different. Would have loved to see Turk there. Birdman
had some things to say in regards to Turk not
being there towards the end of the set. But you know,
we're not gonna holllight the negative ship. But hopefully, man,
they could do this over and do it right, or
just don't even make it a versus just do a
cash money, no limit show at the Super Dume in
New Orleans. It ain't gotta be a versus. It can
(23:43):
kind of be like with JD was planning on doing
with Bad Boy versus Social Death. I appreciate what they
was gonna go in.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You know, do you think JD was scared? No?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Hell nah, y'all don't know JD's That's what I'm say.
Y'all don't know JD's history.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
First of all, No, you don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'm not asking because I believe JD scared. What I'm
saying is, do you know I.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Say yeah, I mean like not you y'all that people
that feel.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Like that, Okay, No, because I just feel like I
don't know, like because his history is so big and
people I don't know if people would expect I don't
know if he would be considered the underdog in that situation, right,
if he, JD would be the underdog.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yes, he would definitely be the only cause Puff is
a bigger figure. He's a more polarizing fit.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But now again that's what Jad likes though he wants
that because JD don't care about that at the end
of the day, when we start playing these records that
I really produced, because.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Then it's that then it's that part. No, no, it
ain't shade, it's facts.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It's just facts. Because we're talking about producers. JD plays,
he writes, he also raps. Puff gives you know, he
gives you that. He gives you that that that style
and that flare that lay not say it like this
like Puff do that He got sought. That's what he does.
You remember, come from a party promotion game. He know
(25:02):
how to have a party and how to you know,
what's gonna make people move. So he come from that.
JD played drums, you get what I'm saying. Like, so
he comes from he danced. He was break dance and
he was so he comes from that part of it.
So it's just like, you know, it would have been interesting.
But yeah, that that that I wanted to happen, only
because I really feel like people don't give Jamaine dupri
(25:24):
you know they they obviously they say Mariah Carrey, they
say Usher, but no, we gotta go Brat, we gotta
go Chris Cross, we gotta go bow Wow. He got
real songs with Biggie, he got real songs with Little Kim,
So these are the things that people forget.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He got I think he got songs of Mace.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So these are the things that people forget, Like when
when when Puffing Hum was popping on Bad Boy, was
putting them joints out. JD was producing for a lot
of those artists on Bad Boy as well, But people
forget about that because that was early ninety midnight.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They could they really connect.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
When you think JD, you think Usher, you think you
think Usher, you think bow Wow, But you think Usher
Mariah Carey, like exactly how you said, you know, remember
the back.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
They don't remember the the you know, money at the
thing with jay Z. They don't remember those records. They
don't you know what I'm saying. Life of fourteen seventy two,
they don't remember that album. So it's like, you know,
I wanted to see that happen only because I think
it's what the verses does is it reminds a newer generation.
It also shines light on damn like that record still sound.
(26:23):
Because even watching a No Limit Cash Money, I'm hearing
about it, about it and all that. I'm like, I
gotta put this on the gym playlist, like.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I forgot how it's still it is if I know
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean, I'm in the crib watching that shit. I'm
doing this just about it bout it. I'm like, naw,
this shit, I forgot how just that energy of what
it did when you first heard those those songs. So
I wish we obviously are not going to get that
that versus with JD. But I think we missed out
on the moment you know where they would have did
that in Atlanta at the Mercedes Benz Stadium. I mean,
(26:54):
I think that at that point it's just a party. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, We letting JD and Puff
DJ and just have you know, going down that lane
of memory, lane of hearing those records. But yeah, I
think people people need a lesson in Jermaine Deprido because
they don't give JD his his props when it comes
to hip hop rap as much as they should R
and B. I think that's clear, but don't. Let's not
(27:16):
forget about what JD did and hip hop and rap
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, And I think it's because he doesn't. He's not
a flashy He's humble.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, he's not that. That's another thing. Be humble.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Sometimes leave you out of the conversation because you ain't
bragging doses, you don't talk your ship. It's easy to
forget about you when the loud niggas and the boisterous
niggas like yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
But then when you're like listen, fuck all play them
records though, and.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Then I really produced that, Like I really went in
there and played that.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's why I'll be trying to get you all to
talk y'all shit, and I'll be like, na, we cool,
we humble, uh new balances and upside down hats like nah,
talk your ship.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But I'm just that's just not me, baby, did I've
never been there.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I mean I was, but now that would be crazy
for me to start trying to like we're just doing
a po We just talking.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Our ship man. That's all.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
This is podcast, have fun. I ain't got no ego
when it comes to this ship man. I just like
kicking and talking about shit that's off.
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Speaker 1 (29:00):
You call men gay for everything, niggas be gay. Okay,
they do they Okay, hear me out. I'm with you,
they do, right, But sometimes men just don't operate the
way that you operate. And anything that you deem that
you wouldn't do, you label as gay or mental illness.
It's either Maul would do it, or it's gay or
it's mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay, Like what though, I'm learning because if you listen,
my thing is if you feel like that's how I
am interesting. But you gotta tell you, mar No, it's
just like cool, like tell me about myself.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But I want to. I want to. I need examples though,
Like you can't just say something.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So for example, the internet when you it was a
big deal on the internet when you said that men
who constantly cheat and constantly sleep with people and won't
stop getting pussies, just that they just can't stop, they're gay.
Some would say that they might just be addicted to sex, right,
but you are insistent that it's gay. I think you
also said that it was gay to have a fish take.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Like very gay.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know why you I'm gonna tell you why you
corny for that? You my nigga, fuck with you. But
if you walked in the dude's house and he had
a fish tank, you would you would feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I would not feel that he was goting that shit?
Would man I was gay? I would feel like his
grandmother gave him that fish tank.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
They put the fish in the car. How do you
got to give the fish to his house?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Grandma left the house and the fish tank. If you
walked in a man's house and he had like a
serious fish tank, are you fishing it? Yes? What kind
of fish you got? Gold fish in the tank?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I you love animals just a little bit too much
for me, and you need to love more serious animals.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Like if you would keep a gold fish alive. You're
a little bit too dedicated to the wrong shit.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So you're telling me, if you walked in the dud's
house and he had a fish tank, you don't have
no questions for him.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I have questions, But that doesn't keep me from getting
the first question.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
What kind of fish?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Like?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What possessed you to get fished?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Like?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Do you really fuck with fish like that? Do you
like think it looks dope?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
What like? How often do you clean your fish tank?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Type? Shit? Like important shit?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I don't ask him like, yo, do you get fucked in,
asked because this fish.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Take don't make no sense.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Mmm, okay, do you like my logic? I think my
logic makes sense, though you still ain't. You still ain't
convinced me on me being toxic yet, though I'll give
you no one give you another one. Okay, you said that,
I said, men who can't stop cheating on their girlfriend
like I said, I said, they may be gay.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
The internet killed you for that. Well, yeah, it's just
gay people on the internet.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, I mean, just move me, show me when I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know, we actually have a a gay fan shout
out to Christian who every time you say anything that
can even be deemed remotely homophobic, he writes me and
he's like, see more on and this says some homophobic shit.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Again, I'm not homok people gotta see people.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You gotta compartmentalize people correctly and give people the correct
like terms. Yeah, Like I'm not homophobic. So it's like,
where's the homophoon? Like why you think I'm a homophobic
because I said, yo, if you got a fish tank,
that's kind of gay, that's not me being homophobic, Like,
that's not I don't care that you have a fish take.
If I walk in my homework, you got a fish take,
(32:07):
I'm yo, I ain't gonna lie home. It might be gay,
that's my homied.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But how does that connect to mail o man? Who's
sexual activity by guy?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I mean it's not really male on male gay. It's
just like you know, that's just gay, Like, yeah, that's gay, man,
what you do a negative connotation?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
No, not negative. It's like it's a fist take. But
it's like you like you take the fish out and
put them like in a smaller bowl and then clean
it like and then put the water back in the gravel.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That's gay.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
You doing mad other ship by when you do it,
you got mad time on your hands. Man, having mad
time on your hands is gay. Like when you ain't
got nothing to do, like you got nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's not But that's not fair, mom. But if they
care about they fucking fish.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But niggas can't care about they fish because you a
non petass nigga.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
People can't care about they fish. I love animals, but
do you have one? Niggas will say you don't have
a dog. That's gay.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Na.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
See that's see.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Now when you do it, it ain't gay and it's
certain type of dog you got.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You got a certain type of dog, like what what
dog isn't it makes you not Niggas.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Can't have no tea cups. Man, niggas can't have no
no toy.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
That's how I know you don't know ball or bitches
because tea cups get you girls know it?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Don't you get her tea?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
You not hollering at See, this is why I ain't
fucking with you. You're not talking to no man that's
walking down the street with a tea cup a yokie
I have.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
That means you know you know how to be tender
and soft. You can't just throw no tea cup around them.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And what else tender soft? Hear me out. You can't
throw no tea cup around the way you can throw
them bulldogs around.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
You.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
See what I'm saying. You gotta be gentle. You can
be gentle with a bigger dog. You can't.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, see that's the You don't think you can be
gentle with a pit bull or cane corsal or like.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I don't want no nigga to cane course because your
niggas is not dog trainers. You niggas are are not.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
The fucking puppy. Yeah, that don't mean ship brok with
New York City. The dog will do whatever I tell them.
A can course of New York City. It's not getting
enough exercise.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I still don't see how you think I'm toxic, but
I'll take it only because it's Halloween.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'll be toxic man for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
For Halloween, yeah, I'll be Captain Toxic.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'll be Captain Toxic. Folloween, Josh, play another voice.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Mam yo, this is Jarvis, all the way from Georgia.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Jarvis.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
See, I got some ris for you, but go ahead
and let you know off the rip. I don't know
nothing by Nobodegger's, no subways, metros, bacon, egg on a bagels. See,
I'm from the South Georgia specific we know about peaches
and black Baptist churches where your granddad is a deacon.
Only bring these things up just for me to mention
that it's differences between us, let alone miles of distance.
(34:42):
But do don't stop my heart, nor death nor good intentions.
See you smiling so hard, your cheek bones carving indention.
Jay Cole said he want to fuld clothes with his missus.
I'm trying to cut, load the wash and let him
dry and stack the dishes. Trying to write you letters
to the envelope with a hundred kiss is trying to
bring you to the south, get a field for your characteristics.
Let you hear from horse's mouth. I want to hear
about all your interests. This is not a poem. This
(35:03):
is my feelings for you to find. It's not a story,
but a prophecy weigh and on proper time.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh, he stepped in his business with you, baby d
This ain't a story. This is me just dropping the
line and let you know that the time of the
line and the divine rhymes and he was getting his
shit off.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Now. He inspired me right there. He inspired me to
write that response.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
What First of all, I was a beautiful spoken word poem, rap,
whatever it was, a rat sixteen, whatever it was, it
was very beautiful. I appreciate you taking the time out
to write something like that to me. I know that
that took time and that took energy and creativity. I
appreciate it. I am unfortunately taking.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Unfortunately, I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You said, yo, peace, that wasn't thirty minutes, Yo, that's crazy.
Unfortunately you take it nah shir nah fam getting red wine,
reduction and all that, and it's a where you go
and not sit down.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Ain't a hold.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Unfortunately, baby, des in a relationship, fam Jarvis, Jarvis is
your name Jarvis?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Now?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Unfortunately not Unfortunately baby relationships when yo, y'all ain't shit
Yo that she just y'all just jumped out. You ain't
even realize what you were saying, actually just jumped out. Unfortunately,
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
A relation Let me finish my sentence. Unfortunately for you,
I am in a relationship. Fortunately for me, I'm very happy.
But unfortunately for you, I am in a relationship with
someone else who lives in Georgia and license take it might.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Be his man.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
He might have sent his homie to send that voice
like hah, send his voice for this fall. No, baby,
even unfortunately I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Now, that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm gonna write a poem back to him. He'm gonna
write a poem back to some about our unrequited love.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Do homie know you be writing poems? What's homie your
man name? He knows?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Are you who you work for? My nigga? I usually said,
you got a man? Do he know you writing poems
to niggas. I haven't written it yet, so why would
I talk That hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yet, unfortunately, But I'm gonna write him a poem back
let me writing. Don't do that. He don't need a
poem back, Sir Jarvis, sir, thank you. The marriage is taken.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
She's in a happy relationship. Was accepting all poems not
from no niggas? Ain't? Why not? Because that's gay. I'm
not gay.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm like men mention write poem my God, don't write
me no poems.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I don't want no poems from no man. Josh has
done anything else. We gotta cover. Were wrapping up. Well,
Happy Halloween, your peach. We'll we be doing tonight. Man.
We're going to parade tomorrow. It's a parade tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's a parade every year Halloween. You got the biggest
parade in the country in New York.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You ain't know that some scary ship going on.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
The NYC parade is like legendary, though, have you ever been? Oh,
you gotta go, you gotta experience it one time. It's
gotten different over the years, like it used to be
like out of control, like it's more controlled and like
you know, but back in like when I was in
high school. Yeah, this this was the time of Yeah,
we just be in downtown fucking people up for no reason, and.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I won't be there, thank you so much. No, but
now it's no. Now it's more it's safe.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, safe, it's more, you know, it's more just about
the parade and costumes and creativity and things like that, Like, yeah,
we just need an excuse to just be doing delinquid shit.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's all what was getting late. Let's get out of
here and go on our date.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Let's do that, going to sneaky shopping, get some food,
maybe a nightcap, maybe a nightcap, maybe maybe a movie
or something. They trying to touch me in the theater.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Did y'all begin unfortunately for you? I mean we're talking
to Y'allsume he's saved, be blessed. I'm that nigga. That's
baby d No Willian now
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, So Baby d it was brought to my attention.
We were talking about hip hop being dad. You know
they've been saying, we were saying that for is is
hip hop dad? Is hip hop dad? So in September,
four hip hop songs were on the global charts. In
September five years ago, there were fifty six on the
(00:26):
global charts. That's a big drop, it is. That's over
ninety gone.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Right. We had a talk with berg Shot, the hit maker.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
He came by to set last week and he posed
a question because we were saying, you know, women are
dominating rap right now as far as like they're being
more stars, newer stars and rap, most of them are women.
And he said, well, name you know some stars, superstars
(00:58):
under thirty five on the men's side, like, don't name
the legacy acts, don't name the guys that have been
in for years. And it's stumped us. It was obviously
the NBA young boy. You know, we we we acknowledge that.
Not saying you know, but it is interesting to see
women dominating hip hop rap now and then now in
(01:19):
September only four hip hop songs on the global charts.
I'm not saying this is women's fault, how you Okay, no, no,
just listen. But we have to because this is just data,
this is analytics, like right now, Yes, women are dominating.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, So that's why I want to stop you. Because
women are not dominating rap. How because them four songs
that are on the global charts, I guarantee that they're
not women's songs unless it's from Cardi's album. What were
the four Josh, can you look up the four hip
hop songs that were on the global charts.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Women are not dominating rap. Women.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
There are more, No, there are more women hip hop
stars than ever before.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's but that doesn't mean that they're dominating rap because
there's still way more men than them.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The men.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yes, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The stars though, the stars.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The stars that people would consider stars would be NB,
a young boy, playboy, Carti, Travis Scott, Cardi, b those
would be who people would consider the big big stars
and be a young boy, Travis Scott, playboy, Cardi, I
don't look straight. But but the charts do they acknowledge it.
(02:28):
They don't acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
They categorize it. He's rap. So but I think that's
the issue.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So you can continue what you were going to say
as far as like, do we connect it to more
women being there?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But I'm going to disagree with you. I don't think
that that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think it's that we took the R and B
out of hip hop, we took the the soulfulness, we
took the soulfulness out of hip hop, and that is
what made it more palatable to other genres.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I guess it's a lot of that baked into it too.
I'm not saying that the fact that we have just
women dominating or more women dominating rap right now than
we've probably ever had. I'm not saying that's the sole
reason for it. There's a lot of things that we
can put into it. But to me, I think we
start there because we've never had this many women rap
(03:24):
stars before at one time.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's like every day we turn around, it's like, oh shit,
like another female MC has coming and she's got a.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Dope reckon and it's like, okay, cool. But does that sustain?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Obviously not, The music in general is not sustaining, Like
a lot of music like we happy to get mob
deep albums and everything that you know they're doing that massippeal,
We happy to get all of it. And these are
all legacy artists. These are all legacy acts dropping new music.
But as far as like the newer artists, hip hop
is in a scary place. I think hip hop is
(03:57):
in a very very scary place. I think that it's
a conversation that you know, we all need to start
having and really looking at, like damn, like what is
if this happened in five years? If only four hip
hop songs are charting on today's global Spotify chart, like,
what does the next five years look like?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So the songs that are charting are you see you Again?
I'm gonna assume that that's the with Khalifa see You Again?
All the Stars obviously by Sizza and Kendrick, both which
have R and B hooks. And who is timeless in
the weekend?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The weekend in play work CARDI right, Okay, it's not rap,
that's the weekend that ain't rap?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And then what's the other one? No pole? Who is that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh this is or they calling that that weekend record
hip hop? See what I'm saying, that's where get tricky.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, but even still if you see those are all
they have R and bok So it's like that's palatable
to a wider audience. When you're talking about Lobal, that's
palatable to a wider audience. The soul, the R and B,
which is the reason why all of our artists when
they were doing soul and R and B music back
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in the day was so widespread.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So when you bring hip hop into it and you
got them banging versus and a good ass hook, like
people could listen to that straight rap going through or
these bullshit where they're like doing this drill rap and
then they're also singing the hooks and it don't sound
good because they can't fucking sing like it's just which
I blame Kanye and Drink for that shit.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
By the way, what rappers singing their own hooks?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But rappers to always sing their own hooks, you know,
that was like a thing at one point, like not
all of them, no, most rappers used to do their
own hooks though. When I mean, you just go back
and listen to like a lot of the biggie shit,
a lot of Tupac shit, a lot of early jay
Z shit, a lot of nahs, shit, a lot like
they were.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Doing their own.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well yeah, but when I'm thinking, so, what year did
they say they were fifty six?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
They said it was how many? Five years ago? Five
years ago? This is Spotify's top.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's what the is. Okay, Oh, this is just Spotify's
top two hundred most stream tracks. Yes, okay, okay, but
still yeah, it should be more than four. I just
think that it's a it's a conversation, man like, and
we talk about it a lot, like you know, now
you listen to a song, it's almost like as good
(06:25):
as we all felt the Clips album was when it
came out, right, I haven't played that album in weeks.
I'm talking about not a single song I played in weeks,
and I like it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I liked the album. I thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I played it back to back to back when it
first came out, and then I revisit it every once
in a while. But I don't play it as often
as I did when it first came out. But I
still do play it pretty often. People don't understand that
it's this It's that phone.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Our parents were right, Is this damn phone?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
This, this, the phone is killing music as much as
we don't want to admit it.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
The phone is is how we listen to it. Like
if I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Playing an album right now, I'm connected to the speakers
in the crib and I'm playing, I'm listening somebody call me,
somebody send me some video to look at.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I look at.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I might not even go back to the album tonight.
Now them fell into a conversation about whatever. Somebody texts
me da da da, get on the phone, Like it's
not this takes away from the music experience. As much
as I love it because it is very convenient. I
can pull up a song. I can hum a melody
into my phone and don't even remember the words, and
it'll pull up the song and I can play it.
(07:32):
So I love that part of it, but it definitely
has taken us away from experiencing music in the way
that we used to. Like before you get a CD
or you get a vinyl, you put it on. Niggas
could be in the crib fight and guess what that
music still playing. Somebody could call you on the phone.
I'm on the phone, music still playing, like I'm still
(07:54):
in I'm still here I'm still listening in the moment,
I'm still consuming the music.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Now, don't playing it off my phone.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Something happens, you know whatever, whatever it's like, it pulled
me away from that I'm on the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I forgot.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But that's not just with music, with TV as well.
I could be watching the show, get a call something,
watching something on.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
My phone, never revisit it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't even know what just happened the last two episodes.
Shit just been running our attention.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Our attention span is so short.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I will also say that me personally, I don't know
if anybody else feels this way. When I tire of
songs quicker now because of Instagram. So when I'm doom scrolling,
which I do, do I have a problem. I need
to fix that. But when I'm doom scrolling on Instagram
and I'm doom scrolling on TikTok and people are creating content,
and I've heard that song a million times now, I'm
now tired of it. I might have heard it three
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times on my phone, but I've heard it one hundreds.
There are songs that I know full the words too,
that I've never downloaded, never heard of my phone, but
I know the words, simply because I've consumed so many,
so much content with that fucking song.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Songs live longer on social media, and they doing your
your in your in your home for sure, and in
your car because somebody posts a video that goes viral
with Doja cat playing in the background. M h, everybody,
we all seeing that shit. That shit keeps playing us
on the real you like, it lives longer on social
media than it does like then you live with it
in your personal time. And I mean again, I'm not
(09:17):
saying it's a yeah, well yes, I am saying I
do think it's a negative thing. Yeah, I do, because
it's evident when you see charts like this, it's like, bro,
people are not I just feel like people are just not.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
As attached to the music as we once were.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Like in the quality of the music. Just let's be honest.
The quality of the music is just not good. It's
not as good. It's not there as good news.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The mean there has killed me years ago when I
said that, I was saying it was easier to get
in the music business.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And get I remember I remember.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Then it's ever nah, I know it's not how I
can I can be a no name this could be
my first album I ever recorded. And if Drake drops tonight,
guess who else can drop tonight? Me? I can put
my album on the same DSP. Nobody's ever heard of me.
But I could put my album.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
On the same DSP as Drake or Beyonce or whoever.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And this was my first part nobody's I'm not even
I just made this in my basement and it take off.
I can have a song that goes viral. Now I'm
getting booked over here. But though you know how hard
it was to do that, just not even let's say
twenty five years ago, like it was. You had to
really travel and go to these cities and go hand
in hand trying to get people to hear your shit. Now,
(10:31):
I just upload the record tonight. I could be a
star next Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And also, what the labels are looking for now, from
what I see, is no one's looking for the quality.
No one's sitting in these meetings and making these people
climb on the table like they did Bobby Schimurda and
perform as well.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
We needed to get away from that. Niggas don't need
to be on nobody's table.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Rapping like get away is no one is, there's no
quality control.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
What they're looking for is.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Coaching in Q they down there doing coach k And
what they're looking for is who has the attention.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And what people do to get attention nowadays is not
be talented, Like you can get be talented and get attention,
but that's not what everybody's going for. Everybody wants to
be some type of like I don't even want to
say content creator, but there's so many smoking mirrors and
like just fugezy shit going on, and shit that's making
people a star. That's how you get someone like some
of our some of our stars, I'm not going to
(11:26):
say any names, but it's like you're not good, but
you've created this persona that the young kids have fallen
in love with and now they're a rock star and
they're demonic and it's going viral and you're doing clickbaity
shit and now you have like this hould base following
about a bunch of bullshit that's not good music, you
see what I'm saying. Like, so it's like their labels
(11:47):
are just looking for, well, who's all right, you got
a couple of songs out, who's getting the most? Well,
you got a lot of social media following or people
coming to your shows, this, this, this, this, and that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's they're not looking for good music, so bullshit slips
through the crack.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Bullshit is allowed to become the biggest, and then because
other shit doesn't look like bullshit, it makes it hard
for real shit. Now, when you make real shit, they're like, oh,
you're making old school hip hop, and it's like, no,
I'm not making old school hip hop.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm just making hip hop. I'm making actual rap.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But no one's sitting down and listen in the actual
rap anymore unless you already have our hearts.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Clips already has our hearts. If people would.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Have just came out, if Unknown people would have came
out with that CLIPS album, people wouldn't have fuck listened
to it. It wouldn't have gotten as much of you
know what I'm saying, nowhere near as much of attention,
no matter how good it was. But they have our
hearts already, So we're gonna go listen and be like, ah,
this is good.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
We've missed this.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But they're not gonna go do all the silly bullshit
that these other artists are gonna do to continue to
go viral and have viral sounds.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
And all of that shit.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So then you come into impass because now the internet
runs everything. So if you can't pop on the internet,
then you're.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Not gonna pop on the charts unless it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Because it was it used to be the reverse of that.
Like so you know again old enough to remember a
group like Milli Vanilli mm hmm, right, great record, great record,
but it was a thing where it was like, yeah,
but whoever made that record probably doesn't look like a star.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, right, now you just gotta look like a star.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We could tweak, we can, we can turn the knobs
on the in the studio and we could get the
sound to where where it need to be. But before
it used to be as long as the music is good,
that was we lead first. It's the music good. He
may not be a star, she may not be a star.
We don't even got to put them in the video.
We can use somebody because this is things that really happened.
(13:40):
There was videos in the nineties where I come to
find out that ain't even the person who's on the record,
that's not even them, but they're in the video and
they portraying it like they're performing the record, and that's
not even a real artist.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So it went from that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It went from leading with the music being great to
now that's the second that's secondary.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Now it's like, yo, what what's your personality? Like?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
You know what I mean, what's your you knows? Do
people love the personality? Do they love the look, the aesthetic?
You know, the vibe, the energy? Okay, cool? Now we
could put music, we can put something together, we could
cook something up, get them in the studio with the
right person.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
We see it all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
But then now what happens is you get something like
this chart that we have to sit and look back
and be like, damn only four. So it's a real
conversation to have. Man, I just I just feel like,
you know, again, being able to see the mini shifts
and changes in the landscape of music and things like that,
(14:36):
and being able to look back and things are looking
a little for the first time that I can remember.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You know, people are saying hip hop is dead for years.
That's you know, it's looking dead though. It's looking like
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We might have to start going to hospice and visiting
this mother, Like Yo, this nigga might be on his
way out.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Of y'all gotta start making hip hop music that the
old people and that the white people can comfortably rap.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's the only way the white people and the old
people got a comfortably rapid Well did you watch the
Cash Money Versus No Limit versus?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I did watch the Cash Money No Limit versus? Shout
out to Cash Money and No Limit. You know a
lot of people online today a little younger y'all don't
really know because.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You was using was young.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, you was like five six maybe four only No
Limit like person I know is little Romeo.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, see, you don't, y'all don't really know what this was.
But this was huge for uh, you know, just for
nostalgic purposes and just the legacy of two of the
most iconic labels in hip hop being Cash Money and
No Limit. But the one problem we was talking about
it before we started, why was this in Las Vegas?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Complex Con? Fuck that?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
And I know Complex, shout out the Complex, We fuck
with Complex, But.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
We know Complex gave them a bag.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Of course we know they you know, because it was
Complex Con and this was you know, the performance at
Complex Con. But this had to be in New Orleans,
we were supposed to do this at the super Dome, like,
this was not.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
This is not Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Listen to the crowd wasn't really no, because I mean
it was people out there for complex con people traveled,
you know what I'm saying. So, but it's it wasn't.
It wasn't New Orleans. It wasn't. It wasn't that. I mean,
people obviously knew some of the songs. People you know,
happy to see the gods performance thing, But it wasn't.
The energy just wasn't what you hear when you when
you see Cash Money versus No Limit. Yeah, that has
(16:35):
to be in New Orleans. Yeah, you understand I'm saying, like,
that's that's just too much history. It's too much, you know,
just ties to like the community for real, everybody that's
still in the city of New Orleans. I know, Hurricane
Katrina kind of separated people, but you know the essence
of what Cash Money and No Limit have done for
that city, you gotta have them on stage in New Orleans.
(16:57):
So it was cool. It was cool seeing it. No
to Wayne No Turk, I don't know how I invested.
I am at that point when you say, you know,
Wayne is not gonna be there, Turk is not gonna
be there, And it's like.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So, well did they play little Wayne records? Though?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Uh, well, they played verses from from Wayne, you know,
obviously they had to play some of his his verses
and things like that.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But why wasn't Wayne then?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like, I still don't understand where him and bird Man are, like,
you know, as far as personally, I don't know, you know,
if they're even on speaking terms at this point.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I really don't keefer. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I can't keep up with men that don't talk to
other men. That's just not my that's not my DNA.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
So who won? In my opinion?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Looking at it, I mean, it probably was different inside
the venue, but looking at it, I felt like no
limit one.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, I felt like no limit one.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I felt like the records just just hit a little
a little different. Now, don't get it twitted cash when
obviously juveniles there, you know, slow motion, I mean, that's
that's a that's a hood.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Okay, that's that's what you see.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You see what it does soon that you get you
ain't nobody playing nothing, and you just start slow winding
and your seat just when you hear the song, so yeah,
you know it was a couple don't get a twist
of cash money.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
You know, they put on a good show.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
But looking at it, you know, from what I felt
just looking at it, I felt like no limit. Uh,
they got the best, the best of that night. And
now again that could be because again you don't got
you know, obviously the Juggernaut and Lil Wayne not being
there on stage, not.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It does you know, it takes away from it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
A lot of people saw it being closer than it
was because they assumed that with cash money came young money.
And I was like, I don't think that that's fair,
and I'm happy that they did they didn't do that, right, Yeah,
I'm happy that they didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I don't think that that's fair in a sense.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I mean, yeah, I understand why you say that, but
I mean it is cash money, young money. Yeah, like
you never heard any of the young money artists saying
young money. It didn't say cash money at the same time,
so you know, it's it's obviously ties did and affiliations,
but this was just from that era of cash money
before Drake NICKI, you know, Wayne obviously was was cash.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Money before Young Money.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But Wayne not being there, I think was just the
you know, it's like all right, man, like this is
you know, we get it. It was still cool to
see Juvie and you know, BG and baby silkmia X.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know, master P, master P.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Bro. Listen seeing master P perform those records and then
like really thinking about like the era that master P
had and dominated. We don't talk about your master P
played in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He was just doing shit.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
You don't listen, you can't. That is like, I don't.
I really think we didn't stop. We didn't pause long
enough to really like salute master P for that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It wasn't he didn't play eighty two games in the season.
He wasn't on the start in Ross and all that
opening day. The fact that he was their preseason and
just out there he has a jersey, he was on
a floor with guys who played the full season.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Bro. That is that's almost like this.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is like movie shit, like you know when the movies
used to be like yo, he went on to play
in the NBA, Like this.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Is what that is.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
This is like the dude from the hood that was
on the block, you know, getting into some shit whatever,
whatever straighten out his life.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
They was like, yo, you gotta take this serious.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
He took it serious and really like did something that
he didn't you know, he didn't have a long career.
But the fact that he even got to that level.
You know how synonymous rap in basketball is, Yeah, it's
the same.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's one and the same.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The fact that master P did what he did in
music in the culture and actually played in a preseason
NBA game.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And went on to be one of the great It
was preseason? Correct? Was it preseason? So tell that is crazy?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Tell me about that because I know that we have
some somewhat of a younger audience, and by younger, even
the younger people we getting old now, so we might
not have been exactly around for that. Why did he
only play play preseason?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Like? Was he what happened?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well, I mean, it's the NBA at the end of
the day, Like, it's not you know, it's it's hard
for guys that are really good at basketball to make
the opening day roster and stay in the league. Like
that's you know, that's just not something that any and
everybody could do. So he wasn't that good. He wasn't
good enough to stay on an NBA roster.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But he was good. But he was good.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
He got to the you know, played in the preseason. Now,
some of it may have been just the lore of it.
Teams know what it did for marketing and things like that.
But still he got out there with it looked good
like he was. It wasn't like he was out there
and he looked crazy. He can play basket.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Was he better than Brownnie? Nah, he wasn't better than Bronnie. No,
we ain't doing not doing that. I know how you
felt about Bronnie. I was just.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean this podcast has been critical of him when
he got drafted to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So no, I mean I was I rooted for it.
I like it, but to.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
But calling it nepotism exactly, don't get it. But that's
what was because because I mean master P didn't.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Have nepotism, I was asking no, no, that's but yeah,
but no, Brownie is, Yes, Brownie will Bronnie right now
and master P back then if they played each other,
Brownie would destroy master There's no it's even like we're
not gonna do that, like he absolutely would. But I
mean I still support nepotism. I'm shout out to Brownie.
You know, I hope that he has a great career, But.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, we didn't. We didn't give We didn't the coach.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It didn't stop long enough to really salute that moment
for master P. Like making a preseason NBA game like
that is something that we haven't seen we probably will
never see again. J Cole plays ball. He never was
on a preseason roster.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Did he play for like Africa or somewhere? Cole was
playing for? What have you seen? Have you seen them
African team?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Come on, we're not doing that, I'm gonna say. I'm
just saying it's it's just a difference. It's all I'm saying.
Shout out the Cole. You know he's trying to pursue
that too. But even J Cole knows how crazy it
is that master P played with the Raptors and the Hornets.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Okay, oh he two teams.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Like come on, man, this is what I'm saying, like,
did we didn't the coach? It didn't stop, We didn't pause
long enough to salute that. So shout out the master P,
Shout out the bird Man, shout out the cash money,
no limit, the versus again.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I would have liked. I would have liked to see
it in.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
New Orleans personally because just the energy would have been
completely different. Would have loved to see Turk there. Birdman
had some things to say in regards to Turk not
being there towards the end of the set. But you know,
we're not gonna holllight the negative ship. But hopefully, man,
they could do this over and do it right, or
just don't even make it a versus just do a
cash money, no limit show at the Super Dume in
New Orleans. It ain't gotta be a versus. It can
(23:43):
kind of be like with JD was planning on doing
with Bad Boy versus Social Death. I appreciate what they
was gonna go in.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You know, do you think JD was scared? No?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Hell nah, y'all don't know JD's That's what I'm say.
Y'all don't know JD's history.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
First of all, No, you don't. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'm not asking because I believe JD scared. What I'm
saying is, do you know I.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Say yeah, I mean like not you y'all that people
that feel.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Like that, Okay, No, because I just feel like I
don't know, like because his history is so big and
people I don't know if people would expect I don't
know if he would be considered the underdog in that situation, right,
if he, JD would be the underdog.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yes, he would definitely be the only cause Puff is
a bigger figure. He's a more polarizing fit.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But now again that's what Jad likes though he wants
that because JD don't care about that at the end
of the day, when we start playing these records that
I really produced, because.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Then it's that then it's that part. No, no, it
ain't shade, it's facts.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It's just facts. Because we're talking about producers. JD plays,
he writes, he also raps. Puff gives you know, he
gives you that. He gives you that that that style
and that flare that lay not say it like this
like Puff do that He got sought. That's what he does.
You remember, come from a party promotion game. He know
(25:02):
how to have a party and how to you know,
what's gonna make people move. So he come from that.
JD played drums, you get what I'm saying. Like, so
he comes from he danced. He was break dance and
he was so he comes from that part of it.
So it's just like, you know, it would have been interesting.
But yeah, that that that I wanted to happen, only
because I really feel like people don't give Jamaine dupri
(25:24):
you know they they obviously they say Mariah Carrey, they
say Usher, but no, we gotta go Brat, we gotta
go Chris Cross, we gotta go bow Wow. He got
real songs with Biggie, he got real songs with Little Kim,
So these are the things that people forget.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He got I think he got songs of Mace.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So these are the things that people forget, Like when
when when Puffing Hum was popping on Bad Boy, was
putting them joints out. JD was producing for a lot
of those artists on Bad Boy as well, But people
forget about that because that was early ninety midnight.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They could they really connect.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
When you think JD, you think Usher, you think you
think Usher, you think bow Wow, But you think Usher
Mariah Carey, like exactly how you said, you know, remember
the back.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
They don't remember the the you know, money at the
thing with jay Z. They don't remember those records. They
don't you know what I'm saying. Life of fourteen seventy two,
they don't remember that album. So it's like, you know,
I wanted to see that happen only because I think
it's what the verses does is it reminds a newer generation.
It also shines light on damn like that record still sound.
(26:23):
Because even watching a No Limit Cash Money, I'm hearing
about it, about it and all that. I'm like, I
gotta put this on the gym playlist, like.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I forgot how it's still it is if I know
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I mean, I'm in the crib watching that shit. I'm
doing this just about it bout it. I'm like, naw,
this shit, I forgot how just that energy of what
it did when you first heard those those songs. So
I wish we obviously are not going to get that
that versus with JD. But I think we missed out
on the moment you know where they would have did
that in Atlanta at the Mercedes Benz Stadium. I mean,
(26:54):
I think that at that point it's just a party. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, We letting JD and Puff
DJ and just have you know, going down that lane
of memory, lane of hearing those records. But yeah, I
think people people need a lesson in Jermaine Deprido because
they don't give JD his his props when it comes
to hip hop rap as much as they should R
and B. I think that's clear, but don't. Let's not
(27:16):
forget about what JD did and hip hop and rap
as well.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, And I think it's because he doesn't. He's not
a flashy He's humble.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, he's not that. That's another thing. Be humble.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Sometimes leave you out of the conversation because you ain't
bragging doses, you don't talk your ship. It's easy to
forget about you when the loud niggas and the boisterous
niggas like yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
But then when you're like listen, fuck all play them
records though, and.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Then I really produced that, Like I really went in
there and played that.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That's why I'll be trying to get you all to
talk y'all shit, and I'll be like, na, we cool,
we humble, uh new balances and upside down hats like nah,
talk your ship.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But I'm just that's just not me, baby, did I've
never been there.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I mean I was, but now that would be crazy
for me to start trying to like we're just doing
a po We just talking.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Our ship man. That's all.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
This is podcast, have fun. I ain't got no ego
when it comes to this ship man. I just like
kicking and talking about shit that's off.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But don't worry. I will pop it for y'all. Pop
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Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah my thoughts again.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
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Speaker 3 (28:33):
I think about that all the time.
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Terms apply.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You call men gay for everything, niggas be gay. Okay,
they do they Okay, hear me out. I'm with you,
they do, right, But sometimes men just don't operate the
way that you operate. And anything that you deem that
you wouldn't do, you label as gay or mental illness.
It's either Maul would do it, or it's gay or
it's mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay, Like what though, I'm learning because if you listen,
my thing is if you feel like that's how I
am interesting. But you gotta tell you, mar No, it's
just like cool, like tell me about myself.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But I want to. I want to. I need examples though,
Like you can't just say something.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So for example, the internet when you it was a
big deal on the internet when you said that men
who constantly cheat and constantly sleep with people and won't
stop getting pussies, just that they just can't stop, they're gay.
Some would say that they might just be addicted to sex, right,
but you are insistent that it's gay. I think you
also said that it was gay to have a fish take.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Like very gay.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know why you I'm gonna tell you why you
corny for that? You my nigga, fuck with you. But
if you walked in the dude's house and he had
a fish tank, you would you would feel the same way.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I would not feel that he was goting that shit?
Would man I was gay? I would feel like his
grandmother gave him that fish tank.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
They put the fish in the car. How do you
got to give the fish to his house?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Grandma left the house and the fish tank. If you
walked in a man's house and he had like a
serious fish tank, are you fishing it? Yes? What kind
of fish you got? Gold fish in the tank?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I you love animals just a little bit too much
for me, and you need to love more serious animals.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Like if you would keep a gold fish alive. You're
a little bit too dedicated to the wrong shit.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So you're telling me, if you walked in the dud's
house and he had a fish tank, you don't have
no questions for him.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I have questions, But that doesn't keep me from getting
the first question.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
What kind of fish?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Like?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
What possessed you to get fished?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Like?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Do you really fuck with fish like that? Do you
like think it looks dope?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Like?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
What like? How often do you clean your fish tank?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Type? Shit? Like important shit?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I don't ask him like, yo, do you get fucked in,
asked because this fish.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Take don't make no sense.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Mmm, okay, do you like my logic? I think my
logic makes sense, though you still ain't. You still ain't
convinced me on me being toxic yet, though I'll give
you no one give you another one. Okay, you said that,
I said, men who can't stop cheating on their girlfriend
like I said, I said, they may be gay.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
The internet killed you for that. Well, yeah, it's just
gay people on the internet.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, I mean, just move me, show me when I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You know, we actually have a a gay fan shout
out to Christian who every time you say anything that
can even be deemed remotely homophobic, he writes me and
he's like, see more on and this says some homophobic shit.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Again, I'm not homok people gotta see people.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You gotta compartmentalize people correctly and give people the correct
like terms. Yeah, Like I'm not homophobic. So it's like,
where's the homophoon? Like why you think I'm a homophobic
because I said, yo, if you got a fish tank,
that's kind of gay, that's not me being homophobic, Like,
that's not I don't care that you have a fish take.
If I walk in my homework, you got a fish take,
(32:07):
I'm yo, I ain't gonna lie home. It might be gay,
that's my homied.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But how does that connect to mail o man? Who's
sexual activity by guy?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I mean it's not really male on male gay. It's
just like you know, that's just gay, Like, yeah, that's gay, man,
what you do a negative connotation?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
No, not negative. It's like it's a fist take. But
it's like you like you take the fish out and
put them like in a smaller bowl and then clean
it like and then put the water back in the gravel.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That's gay.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
You doing mad other ship by when you do it,
you got mad time on your hands. Man, having mad
time on your hands is gay. Like when you ain't
got nothing to do, like you got nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's not But that's not fair, mom. But if they
care about they fucking fish.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But niggas can't care about they fish because you a
non petass nigga.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
People can't care about they fish. I love animals, but
do you have one? Niggas will say you don't have
a dog. That's gay.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Na.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
See that's see.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Now when you do it, it ain't gay and it's
certain type of dog you got.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
You got a certain type of dog, like what what
dog isn't it makes you not Niggas.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Can't have no tea cups. Man, niggas can't have no
no toy.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
That's how I know you don't know ball or bitches
because tea cups get you girls know it?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Don't you get her tea?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
You not hollering at See, this is why I ain't
fucking with you. You're not talking to no man that's
walking down the street with a tea cup a yokie
I have.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
That means you know you know how to be tender
and soft. You can't just throw no tea cup around them.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And what else tender soft? Hear me out. You can't
throw no tea cup around the way you can throw
them bulldogs around.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
You.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
See what I'm saying. You gotta be gentle. You can
be gentle with a bigger dog. You can't.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, see that's the You don't think you can be
gentle with a pit bull or cane corsal or like.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I don't want no nigga to cane course because your
niggas is not dog trainers. You niggas are are not.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
The fucking puppy. Yeah, that don't mean ship brok with
New York City. The dog will do whatever I tell them.
A can course of New York City. It's not getting
enough exercise.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I still don't see how you think I'm toxic, but
I'll take it only because it's Halloween.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I'll be toxic man for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
For Halloween, yeah, I'll be Captain Toxic.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'll be Captain Toxic. Folloween, Josh, play another voice.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Mam yo, this is Jarvis, all the way from Georgia.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Jarvis.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
See, I got some ris for you, but go ahead
and let you know off the rip. I don't know
nothing by Nobodegger's, no subways, metros, bacon, egg on a bagels. See,
I'm from the South Georgia specific we know about peaches
and black Baptist churches where your granddad is a deacon.
Only bring these things up just for me to mention
that it's differences between us, let alone miles of distance.
(34:42):
But do don't stop my heart, nor death nor good intentions.
See you smiling so hard, your cheek bones carving indention.
Jay Cole said he want to fuld clothes with his missus.
I'm trying to cut, load the wash and let him
dry and stack the dishes. Trying to write you letters
to the envelope with a hundred kiss is trying to
bring you to the south, get a field for your characteristics.
Let you hear from horse's mouth. I want to hear
about all your interests. This is not a poem. This
(35:03):
is my feelings for you to find. It's not a story,
but a prophecy weigh and on proper time.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh, he stepped in his business with you, baby d
This ain't a story. This is me just dropping the
line and let you know that the time of the
line and the divine rhymes and he was getting his
shit off.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Now. He inspired me right there. He inspired me to
write that response.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
What First of all, I was a beautiful spoken word poem, rap,
whatever it was, a rat sixteen, whatever it was, it
was very beautiful. I appreciate you taking the time out
to write something like that to me. I know that
that took time and that took energy and creativity. I
appreciate it. I am unfortunately taking.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Unfortunately, I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You said, yo, peace, that wasn't thirty minutes, Yo, that's crazy.
Unfortunately you take it nah shir nah fam getting red wine,
reduction and all that, and it's a where you go
and not sit down.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Ain't a hold.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Unfortunately, baby, des in a relationship, fam Jarvis, Jarvis is
your name Jarvis?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Now?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Unfortunately not Unfortunately baby relationships when yo, y'all ain't shit
Yo that she just y'all just jumped out. You ain't
even realize what you were saying, actually just jumped out. Unfortunately,
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
A relation Let me finish my sentence. Unfortunately for you,
I am in a relationship. Fortunately for me, I'm very happy.
But unfortunately for you, I am in a relationship with
someone else who lives in Georgia and license take it might.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Be his man.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
He might have sent his homie to send that voice
like hah, send his voice for this fall. No, baby,
even unfortunately I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Now, that was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm gonna write a poem back to him. He'm gonna
write a poem back to some about our unrequited love.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Do homie know you be writing poems? What's homie your
man name? He knows?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Are you who you work for? My nigga? I usually said,
you got a man? Do he know you writing poems
to niggas. I haven't written it yet, so why would
I talk That hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yet, unfortunately, But I'm gonna write him a poem back
let me writing. Don't do that. He don't need a
poem back, Sir Jarvis, sir, thank you. The marriage is taken.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
She's in a happy relationship. Was accepting all poems not
from no niggas? Ain't? Why not? Because that's gay. I'm
not gay.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm like men mention write poem my God, don't write
me no poems.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I don't want no poems from no man. Josh has
done anything else. We gotta cover. Were wrapping up. Well,
Happy Halloween, your peach. We'll we be doing tonight. Man.
We're going to parade tomorrow. It's a parade tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's a parade every year Halloween. You got the biggest
parade in the country in New York.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You ain't know that some scary ship going on.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
The NYC parade is like legendary, though, have you ever been? Oh,
you gotta go, you gotta experience it one time. It's
gotten different over the years, like it used to be
like out of control, like it's more controlled and like
you know, but back in like when I was in
high school. Yeah, this this was the time of Yeah,
we just be in downtown fucking people up for no reason, and.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I won't be there, thank you so much. No, but
now it's no. Now it's more it's safe.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, safe, it's more, you know, it's more just about
the parade and costumes and creativity and things like that, Like, yeah,
we just need an excuse to just be doing delinquid shit.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's all what was getting late. Let's get out of
here and go on our date.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Let's do that, going to sneaky shopping, get some food,
maybe a nightcap, maybe a nightcap, maybe maybe a movie
or something. They trying to touch me in the theater.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Did y'all begin unfortunately for you? I mean we're talking
to Y'allsume he's saved, be blessed. I'm that nigga. That's
baby d No Willian now
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