BET Awards Media Room Part 1: Jermaine Dupri, Ray Vaughn, Clarissa Shields, AZ Chike & More

Rory and Mal spent the weekend in Los Angeles for the BET Awards and sat down with Jermaine Dupri, Ray Vaughn, Clarissa Shields, AZ Chike, Joy Taylor, and more! #volume

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Speaker 5 (01:51):
If we don't know what this is like, this is
not fans. It's in a very timid way. J legendary,
JERMAINI pree. Look at what JD Bio said. Jamain Dupri
is a Grammy winning producer, songwriter.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And cultural I know he was a culture I just
didn't know that about you, bro, whose influences shape the
sound of modern ship with Jamaine dupri the fucking legend.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
How you feeling, bro, I'm good?

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Listen man, listen. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I always admired your work ethic, but the last couple
of months, I feel like I can't open my phone
and not see you working, not see you in the studio.
I know you got the Magic City thing you're doing?
How you feel? Are you sleeping at.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Old j D? A little bit? A little bit, a
little bit?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
But you're working? Though you're working? How far so is
the project where we at with it? Eighty?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
I got like ten songs. I don't know what I'm
gonna stop though.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Okay, it's one of those you just like.

Speaker 7 (02:39):
But because every time I make a song, I keep saying, oh,
I can make something better than that, because I get
to a space and I feel like I can make
something better. So I gotta stop myself at some point. Yeah,
I will just keep going.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
But I see you you and with people you with
Aqim Ali.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I love suase like you in there with people that
we probably wouldn't think that you was going to work it.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
But is that is that purpose of.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
The goal?

Speaker 8 (03:03):
Is?

Speaker 7 (03:03):
I think like, as a producer, you know, and it's
all right, you gotta do something to keep you fresh
and keep you excited. That's probably why I can't sleep,
because I'm working with you know, I'm getting a chance
to work with people I ain't never worked with, So
I don't know what they're gonna do, and I don't
know how they're gonna feel when we get in the box.
Like it ain't like a great relationship coming. It's like
my first time going in there, so it's kind of

(03:24):
like a date. Like you nervous a little bit, So
I'm just working. I'm working with a lot of people
that I mean, the whole album basically is the artists
that I never did songs with.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
That's what that was my mindset to do it like that?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Is that well because you just a legend and in
every sense of the word, is that a way to
kind of keep you motivated and refreshed like you got
that new blood, new talent in the studio.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
I think it's for the people. I think it's for
things for y'all.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
I think it's for everybody out there, like you know,
people that probably like you know, they they never I'm
sure people never thought they'd see you know. But I
like I like him because he's a different flow and
then left absolutely think he gets the light that he needed.
Absolutely That's why I picked him.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
And you got to look at the producers that love him,
like he has a whole project with James Blake.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
It's a special one.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
What it is.

Speaker 7 (04:13):
I just wanted to give people something different. I don't
want people to be like, yo, they okay, it's already magic.
See if you've been there letting, you've been in the back. See,
you know exactly what to expect. But you ain't expecting
me to do all these records with these artists. You know,
people thought it was gonna be an album and it
started off like that. I was just gonna all record
and just get songs from people to do it like that.
But I feel like that's just that's the old way,
you know what I mean. And I don't think we've

(04:33):
ever seen a producer do an album with his whole
city only. I ain't putting nobody else on there but
people from Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I love that fire.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mean, Division pretty much lives at your compound. And
you guys made it official finally finally start paying rent
at some point now they really did.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, So how is it?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
How is it now that obviously as you have a
relationship and y'all know each other pretty well. But how
is it now that this official you and that underneath JD.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
I mean, I think it's just you know, just understanding.
I think, like you know, I don't know. I don't
know because I don't know the business behind what was
happening with them before. I just know what I saw
and then what I what I was able to be
a part of and then to get an opportunity to
be a part of it because it wasn't that wasn't
even the works when we did the last album, like

(05:23):
you know, them staying where they was at.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
I thought it was perfect for them.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
But when I, you know, got it heard what Oh
wait a minute, y'all done?

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Come on, let's figure it out.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
So I just think that, you know, it was just
timing because I didn't even have a deal like this
at the time we did the last record. So for
me to have my deal and then that you know,
they deal be up, I think that's just God telling
me that's a sign.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, there was a lot of talk on the timeline
the past two days. Timberland announced that he signed his
first AI artist and that he's.

Speaker 9 (05:57):
I love you, but I love you, but come on,
the throw up Ai JD, Like I get it.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
The technology, the new era.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
No, but it's just certain producers that's just too legendary
to touch that type of Like if I heard JD
had an AI girls group coming out, I would text
JD curse Mountain.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Hang out even had a picture and everything of this,
Like I mean, I get it, Jay, I get it,
Like you know, it's we're in a new, whole new
era the way we you know, communicating the technology.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I get it, and I understand that it is part
of the record making industry and the song making process
with technology, but it's some things just out of bounds,
like it's like we can't go that far.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Yes, I had to look at it for a bunch
of different ways. Like I got in that. I took
a ride in the way Mark, I took a trip
in the Raymark.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
I saw you post that I was on the time.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
I don't know, listen, it might be you know, like
if you get in that car, it might be like
only music for that car. Like I don't know what
what is what his game is, I don't know what
the whole thing is. But I'm just saying, like it's
a world out there. I guess they might have to
have music for that world. This our world, right, get
walking around touching people like you just said, JD.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
They got you out working.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
I feel like you know that ain't this ain't for
that that person or whatever that thing is for the
AI character. I just feel like it might be a
world out there that I'm not privy too.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I don't think.

Speaker 7 (07:19):
I don't know, none of us are. Maybe that we
don't know that you got to go into this virtual world.
And they might got radio stations. I know, like somebody
they asked me to do like Grand Theft Auto and
they were saying, like Drake got his own radio stations
on Grand Theft Auto. The way that they getting ready
to do it is that Drake can actually upload music
that we probably ain't never even heard online or whatever
else on that video geah.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
So I'm just saying you got to think, but that's.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
A little different. Yeah, it's like a playlist for a
video game.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, but I'm saying it's still inside that game. Like
you gotta get on you got to get on your
thing that actually play the music. You can't get in
the car and hear it, right, I mean you could
if they take it. But I'm saying they're actually trying
to make it where it's just like you got to
get in the car that's on that grand Theft auto
to hear these sound songs, right, So that's what I'm saying.
So it's kind of like a if he does it,

(08:05):
say if they got an AI radio station or something
like that and you only hear the music over there.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
I don't know. I'm just thinking, like I'm trying to
make it cool way, So.

Speaker 9 (08:12):
Let me take the thumbs down back, is it because
I thought you keep it?

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Do what I thought was it was an AI artist?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It is? But I'm just I think.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
There is great stuff with AI can help a pro tools,
like there is stuff with music. I think AI is
very important and helping real artists. But when you go
this far where it is something that's completely made up,
and then also where do you draw the line?

Speaker 6 (08:33):
I mean, I think it's the.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
Same thing as stream Like I think like when they
start saying streaming and they stop telling you how many
records people sol or they said like or this person
stream and they sould blah blahlah blah.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Selling and streaming is two different things.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
I think, Like if you're gonna have that conversation about streaming,
Just say how many streams they got?

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Stop saying the.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Streams equal this, because when you do that, then you're like,
you're not talking about streaming no more. Now you're coming
back into this this this world there. You know, these
gn X people feel like it's the dinosaur era, right,
So I'm saying the same thing. I feel like if
they and I think that's where the mistake happened. I
think he introduced this in a world that ain't even
into aiah okay, right, So it's confusing to a lot

(09:14):
of people. But if he introduced that at like a
computer conference, all that makes sense to the situation.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
It makes people to be.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Like, oh my god, right, that's what That's why. That's
why I think the confused. I just think we gotta
wait and see. I don't think you can introduce an
AI artist.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
I find a way about you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But do you think maybe it could put producers and
artists at risk? Like for example, with the AI ship,
they could take your whole catalog and upload it to
this girl that is now Timberland's AI artist, and she
can take all that information and spit it out in
a different way where you wouldn't even it wouldn't be
a sample, you wouldn't get any pub royalties.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
But they can literally just take a catalog.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
They're going to fix all that it ain't they ain't
ready just slide like that, you know, Like I got
the new song on me TI and the Turnaround record,
and I try to upload yesterday the TikTok, and I
guess because it's got a sample in it, they flagged me.
This song ain't even out yet, So I don't think
they on all that. They not get rid of that song.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Ain't out yet and they flagged them for the sample.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
But even like you look at chat GBT, people like
using that to create lyrics, there's no sample in that.
Chat GBT just has all the information of the Internet.
But it just makes them listen, say I say this.
Hopefully it opens the door for people to have more jobs.
People sit at their desk to try to figure out
whatever they got to do. I just I just think
that it's a different world. I think it's a world

(10:33):
idea that we probably don't know about. Like I said,
like I'm asking how to ask everybody about the way
more than everybody, Like I.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Don't know if I'm getting into it.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
They riding around here crazy, the one hundred different Like,
ain't nobody jumping in them, but they out here, they moving,
So that means like it's a bunch of you know,
the urban community. We always be late with technology. I'm
happy to see that he's doing it from that perspective.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
When you're the first one to do it, go get
some flag.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
You're gonna get some f for That's why I stopped
buying cars first because in atlanta't understand.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's a flex.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
That's why I got buying cars first, because they ain't understand.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
All right, So you got the the Social Depth billboard
is back in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You see it. I'm being that last night.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I didn't see being meth last night, but when I
saw you post that, I was happy to see that
because it's nostalgia for somebody like me because I remember
what it was and how crazy that was when you
first put the billboard up years ago. And you also
got the uh was it Social Death University? I think
when you interned the kids.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Intern well do the internship with Emery?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Okay, Well I did it this this semester, and I'm
gonna probably keep it going out it's cool for kids
to come learn. And I think like just the word intern,
I don't think people even understand what that is. Like
if it was an intern here, you gotta know, pick
up plug stuff and you gotta get you some car.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Everybody, I don't think they understand that.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
So it was coming to the studio thinking they was
getting ready rapped and all this, and we had to like, yeah, yeah,
this is what interns do first. I mean, then you
can get to doing what you gotta do. So I
think that it's important that somebody, not just me, other
people do this, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
So I don't think.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
That the kids on that Rory or the or the
young the young adults understand the type of person that
they have access to.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, what JD's doing with the internship, like.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
The intern for JD, it don't get much big or better.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
J meant you get to go in the studio.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Like the game, like the that's what class was gonna
be right today? Herbywhere the dog?

Speaker 7 (12:36):
You know, you gotta get that mop over there, you
mean some snacks you know, blah blah. They was like
what they got to take the trash over that? All
that six months of that you don't see nobody do
that in a long time. It feel like you're being
mean to people. Now you learned.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Now we were talking about the whole Joey Badass thing,
and I remember meeting him in your studio.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh damn, that's when you met him.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
That's the first time I ever met Joey, first time
I ever met him. And I was telling people, I
was like, I was so blown away because he was
standing there in front of like JD if you've never
been to studio, he got anything he's ever worked on
the done but a thousand plaques all over the place.
But Joey was standing in front of Bow Wow's plaque
for about five minutes of staring at it.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So I'm looking, I'm like, well, why he looking at
BOO plaque like that?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
And he said, Yo, this was the album that inspired
me to start rapping. And I tell people that, I'm like,
I would have never guessed that Joey Badass's inspiration to
rap came from bow.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Now you say you've been watching my videos, you hear
why I ain't say the same thing.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Absolutely, that shit is crazy, Like it's crazy to me
to hear these guys and I'm like, damn, like, nothing
about Joey Badass, his music style, anything says bow Wow
inspired me.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
First.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
Yeah, they just they was young though, and it was
That's why, you know, that's another reason why I'm here today.
It's a twenty fifth anniverse for BT, and one those
six in part was a real you know, pivotal ever
for just all kids rapping, all kids singing everything. So
it's like and we was at the head. We was
at the head of that absolutely, you know, and bow
Wow was the person that they was paying.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
That's that's just the age gap, I think. Well, because
that doesn't surprise me. I'm around the same age as Joeys, Like, yeah,
that was.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Like, I mean, you know, I've heard it, heard it
a bunch of times, and I'll get tired of arguing
about it, so be like, man, you know, I ain't
get really I'm not even gonna do this because I'm saying,
like it feels like people were like, you can't tell
me you want if you was watching BT, ain't no way.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
In hell you can even deny it. Doubt.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
That's the thing.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
It was like kids like Joey Badass was coming home
from school watching one O six apart that's just like
a daily routine. And they also was standing in line
trying to get in there to go to one those
six a part. So you know, even when jay Z
was on one o six apart performing Ja Rule whatever,
and still when it got the number one for five miles.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Straight, it was bow absolutely.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Before we let you go? Is there a possibility of
a three Stacks verse on this album?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
I mean, we've been talking about it.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
He running around Atlanta a lot, so I mean, you know,
that's my man, so from from a childhood, so I'm
gonna bump into him by you know, I'm not, don't
you know. It's a lot of people out there that
that that want to be on this record, and.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
You know, and I'm trying to make room for everybody.

Speaker 7 (15:22):
So I mean, if it don't happen, you know, I understand,
I get it, but he should be on it.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I mean, I feel like as fans were old the
JDN and he's a proper.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Three people probably don't know he's very much a strip
club junk listen.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
I know that because I'm a little older, but I
absolutely I know that.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
But I think it makes sense for him to get
on that and in a in an Andre three thousand way.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Oh no, I want to. I mean, you know, and
like I said, that's why. That's another reason why I
was swaver on it. I don't want it. I don't
want I want people to understand I'm not it's not
we're not making it just like trap trap trap trapp.
This is a it's a it's what I think the
strip club should be playing. I feel like the music
in the strip club shouldn't be so boxy, should be
you know, That's how I grew up. It was different

(16:02):
range of music that you heard in the strip club.
And I'm just trying to open it up. So get
back to that.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
So the legend j D JD. We appreciate you, brother,
always good seeing you. And I got to get back
to Lanta just so we can hang out and kick
it again.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Man, my guy, let's just do it. We don't even
need an intrust. The legs in the car, I wasn't
gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was like the legs all the way to.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
The bat, you know, like jeans weren't torn when he
woke up.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
This small day.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
This is just sitting like this. That's why you're just
that was regular dinnutes.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
This was a street legs we hit with our guy
brother feeling.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
I'm good, Brot, how you feeling, I'm chilling, bro I didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I definitely packed that for the wrong season. You didn't.
It's kind of chilly last night. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (16:46):
I mean it's always coold at night, but like during
the day, that ship don't.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
Be it be They go up to about seventy five. Yeah,
night is sixty yeah, fifty, depending on where you at
be bad?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
It is bad.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
How you feeling, though?

Speaker 8 (16:58):
Man?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm good where y'all at? Last night went up?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I was not studio to sleep.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The clock.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I was knocked out from all the lights was on,
you know, get.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
One of them. One of the like I was playing.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
On getting this thing was did you go to a
BT event?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I went to? Like I want to I go to
I wanted some party. I went to some party and.

Speaker 10 (17:19):
Then we went to uh deaf Jam had some ship
like a R and B night type of vibe.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
How many people did you falsely say yeah and now
we're gonna link?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I did that ship. I did that. We gonna link?

Speaker 10 (17:29):
I did the fake Yeah, you know we overd like
right right, my man, there's a reason we have a
linked h.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
My number, no way of contacting me.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
See, that's why I don't go out, because I'm at
the age of I don't got no more.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I'm lying, bro, I'm still on my lions. I just
can't do it. Man.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Before you came, when Peage was setting up, I was
sitting there getting framed. I left and I went and
sat in the car because I was already iron of
talking to any person that walked past.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
What we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I sat in the car by myself, like an old
divorced man in the driveway, waiting for this to start
because I did not want to like politics or talk
to anybody.

Speaker 11 (18:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
No, I feel you. I feel you.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
I was doing the same ship in my career. I
put on turnal call of duty right before I came in.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I was like, guess, but I am. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I am impressed by the fact that rappers out early.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah, because rap is not early.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's a fact. That's not an early genre.

Speaker 10 (18:29):
Now, it's usually a nigga like or a white man
something like him that like has to like call you
or bring or drag you out.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
He held me about seven times to that, right, That's
what I'm saying. Bro, I'm on the way. Let's look
at my last text from tomorrow. What's your e t A.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
He was here.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I was sitting in the car.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
But you know, like, listen, I want to as soon
as we ready, I'm walking right, Yeah, let me know
when I want.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, my man, I don't want to do it. Wait,
y'all had to be here at eleven or before eleven s.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
I mean we had to, okay, because it started at eleven, right,
it started eleven. Because I'm gonna say the reason I'm
asking is because I seen Mall coming. Mall came in
at the meat so whenever, and I got here late.
So at that point, like.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Jermaine do previous here before more, I seen Yeah, but
you know why.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
But you know why j Kevin Hark was here.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
But you know why they here because they're trying to
get out of here.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Listen, get in You.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Heard j was here?

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Ready back?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah exactly, he's chilling. I like that.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm scared of Maul even saying the comment he just
said about people being late, because I don't even think
man knows he's in hot water. He went Mall goes
viral for the most random ship said stop drinking soda
in the morning, and he got killed for two weeks.
Waits Ma said he doesn't like mumble rap and doesn't
like some of the younger rappers that can't read.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
It was a very funny.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah breaths for sure, right right, my friend.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
So the fact that Maul is now saying that black
people are lay at the bt wards sitting next to me,
I'm nervous.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Awhere, that's gonna go. The thing is I could say it.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Not saying it. I'm just saying I sit next to
you when you go viral.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, Yeah, there were stick pieces from scholars from the
black community and my white.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Face was.

Speaker 12 (20:20):
Next.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
He said it, right, he said every time. Yeah, now
you be getting.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Right. But I take that when we first started potting,
y'all would use the N word and they would clip
it and say I said it, and I'm like, you
could see the mouth.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
My mouth isn't even moving like so I'll take some
Cardi b heat instead of that back in the day,
because I.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
Think I think it's the fact that everybody collectively knows
that at some point, not like not offensively but at
some point you dropped the nigga like I don't know it,
Like and you're thirty some years of living, like you
dropped the nigga somewhere like you said.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's just like I think I think Rory might have
dropped it when he went on his We.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Have to do this at this event.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
On the spot, right, you know what we said that
BT We've hung out in a studio and residents twenty
times have this conversation.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
We didn't have to have it here.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, I just found out.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
I just found out Teddy Swims is nominated for BT Award.
I love when white people get nominated like this.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
You know you got to I have to b two.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Oh, this is great, this is like, this is what
we need. This is culture.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Have a Hip Hop Award and a BT war.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Did you go up? You have to go out?

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Did you know that was the one they did digitally?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yah?

Speaker 10 (21:30):
You ain't ever you have to take a picture with it,
like one of these. Just solidarity, like you know what
I mean, we stand when you walk in my curb.
It is right there though, Like I'm proud of the ward.
I think the BT Wars. I take it very serious.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
I love the word. I just think it's funny that
I haven't.

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Last time I seen you, I was Muslim. I think
you know what I'm saying. I think you should do
the same thing, just like just for this season of job.
I've always been Muslim, right, So.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Yeah, who are we looking forward to seeing?

Speaker 5 (22:00):
You know, like, who's performing?

Speaker 11 (22:01):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Teddy Teddy Swims performing though.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
You see.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
That was Belly Gang. That wasn't Teddy Swims perform, not
Teddy Swims.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
A look at this, nigga leg I don't think this
is crazy that he's.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Doing an interview like this.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
You don't understand when he first posted this on the internet.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I sent him like Google research and how bad it's
for you.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Don't make this a thing, Jos like that the window
Joe's in the window.

Speaker 12 (22:32):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It was the thing that took the people with the.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Evil Kidding Toy story. You look like sid Toy. That's
your stance.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
You're I think it's dope that we have the BT
was and I don't know who's Kevin is hosting?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, Philly, that's that's about.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
As much as the media BT question, Philly.

Speaker 9 (22:58):
You know, right, you got to Yeah, okay, but who
else is performing like, I don't even know who's performing
this yow.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
I know Teddy Swims is nominal. That's all I know
about BT. Teddy Swims is nominated. Keevin Hart's performing is
n l A. I think he is in l A.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
You are from Phillip Right, they gave us j D's Wikipedia,
but didn't get us performance.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
They came and gave us a j D bio, Like,
we don't know, Jermaine, why are you handing me this
cultural architect right?

Speaker 13 (23:31):
JD?

Speaker 3 (23:33):
All right, well let's look in real time. I like
this because you're a friend. We don't have to do
like we can do it in real time. Okay, there's
a there's a lot of women panels.

Speaker 10 (23:43):
Okay, okay, that's an uh.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
A spicy moments. I see nothing.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I don't even think they're doing performances this year.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Sounds like, well, we got wind of who is performing,
but he told me not to say nothing.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
That that's gonna be dope, right right, Rather.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Than that, I don't know. I really don't know who
else is performing the ship. Yeah he's anniverse.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Somebody said, uh.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
What wait wait hold on, all right, so People Magazine
BT Awards twenty twenty five Everything you need to know
about Culture's Biggest Night.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
I love the headline.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Why is the picture Kendrick, Doci and Drake two of
which that will not be in a test?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, no, that's not happening. I don't what are people
magazine doing?

Speaker 10 (24:26):
People magazines said black people what black people don't be.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Done right now twenty twenty five, and but two people
that are definitely not gonna.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Be Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, you may be here.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah yeah, uh okay, low Waynefonna Taylor performance.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
I love Tianna's new record, You love.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Low Wayne record My Bad. I think you intentionally skip
flex Flex.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
That's one of the songs in the I like, I
have not given it.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I got halfway through it on his way here.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That makes sense, That makes sense. That makes it, Yo, mindy,
don't do that. Okay.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Matter of fact, I don't like go to Wayne. Hate
this what happened?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
So he's been getting killed On the timeline twenty four hours,
defend them. The first five records I heard weren't that.
They weren't as bad as what I thought.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
The timeline was.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
Saying, you talking about the intro where he wasn't on
it or like that all right now I wanted I
want to make sure. I want to say, Page, did
how you feel about it? I ain't finished it like me,
and we listened to it together.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
I still have chances up. Yeah, okay, Welcome to the Car.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
You didn't like, you didn't like Bells the third record
with you?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
That's not gonna keep you.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Wait, what do you what?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Dore? He sample, Well, that's gonna text me say can
you take that Wayne part out?

Speaker 14 (25:41):
And ye?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Good buddy. Damn that ship broke my heart.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
There's a couple on here that I thought it was okay.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
That elephant noise one I didn't here that.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I didn't get to that one on the timeline that
was like the worst or not?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
He fread he did a band from TV. He redid
band from TV, which I feel like.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
From TV's on no ceilings. Though I don't need him
to know.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
You know, he did not smoke it on this one.

Speaker 10 (26:06):
The blunt was out, no papers, no papers, something, get
into the car to and flex up.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't know if I got to flex up. Welcome
to the Car I liked and Bell I like it.
But again, this isn't a cop out. I am going
to ask we were traveling and.

Speaker 10 (26:21):
I was traveling to That's what I'm saying, right, I
had to get here, like you can't listen anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, but I was traveling. You see what I'm saying.
It was a lot. It was a lot. Boy's be weekend,
Like you can't listen.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
To music about United Wi Fi. It's right exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
You see what I'm saying. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (26:45):
It's adustry, it's gonna be you know, color will the
whole time. You barely get this.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
You know, you fall asleep, don't charge your phone and
you know I what I said, just called the Uber.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Then I'm about to say you need you need to
call the uber so.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Like you can't do that, you're the old charger.

Speaker 9 (26:58):
Yeah, y'all we're gonna have to clean up a lot
of that. I can't do that, man, we can't put
that out.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
But this this part of going Patrio, Wayne and Karen
Siville are not subscribing to our Patreon.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Talked to us about bow Wow. What about him?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
So you're from Philly?

Speaker 9 (27:21):
No, listen, everybody that we sat down with today, you
know Billy Well probably bow Wow fan too. It's bow Wow,
one of the one of the guys that you listened
to growing up.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
No ship yo, No, actually, actually bow I didn't listen
to bow like that.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I listened to the.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
One whatever the rerecord that sample represent that or whatever.
But I used to I used to tell me and
my sister used to go to this park down the
street from my house and she would tell people I
was a little bow Wow and I would take pictures and
they would pay her, like we we we got like
twenty dollars, like.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Just off because I hair.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
And wasn't that many little niggas were hair at the time,
you know what I'm saying, Like there was a.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Probably was a lot of it, wasn't.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
There could be two catfish episodes of somebody pretending to
be bow Wow.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Who else was pretending to be about?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
That was the funniest episode.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Damn Yeah, I've never seen that. No, I've never seen that.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Dyke pretended to be bow Wow. And damn this girl
was sending damn bow Wow money because like I did
see this, like every time, yes, yes, every time bow
Wow like went to film, his like credit card would
be frozen.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
She was like, no, I understand right that.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Money a little just a little.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Bit, right, It's just a bunch of bunch of money.
So you were the original Catfish bow Wow?

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I was the original.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
The funny thing is the song that we did when
we sample, he put a verse on it. I didn't
gonna say who didn't allow it to come out, but
he put a verse on that.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Joe, Now you got to say who.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
You gotta say who stopped it?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
You know who stopped the verse? Somebody? It was somebody
from the high that.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
It's definitely rock nations, absolutely nothing, but it was.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
I thought he's lid but like, what with that? Yeah, no, nigga,
Do I mean he's slid on the original? Yeah, I
mean you know twenty some years ago.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Probably, you know, I think that was that might have
been the time when I was writing for him.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
That might be a t everyone, but lid on that.
This might like.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
I was doing, I was fucking I'm about like yeah,
so you wait, the question was he's a he's a legend?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
You're saying is he a legend?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And maul can I believe people our age like revered
bow Wow?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
And that's not what it is that nigga, No, no one
hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
But he let me, yeah, like that, don't do that.
Don't do that, bro, that's too it's too much shit
going on. I recognize that he is a legend.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Yeah, but I just think that now the artists that
he inspired are actually doing their thing now and then
right sorry, moving around and now I'm interacting with them,
I'm hearing it more like no bow Wow inspired that.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, that so all it is.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
But I know, I'm very aware of how insane bow
Wow was as an artist growing up.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And how do you not know who wrote that you
had to split the publicum? Just look at your contract and.

Speaker 10 (30:16):
I'm gonna tell you that, off my god, I know,
and I'm gonna tell you that what I wrote that
hook was fire. I'll tell you who name wasn't on it.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Ship twenty twenty five We got yo, bro.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Thank you because just mess to the point that I
just want to take you.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Y'all are crazy man.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
All right, Ry, We are back at the media room
being t Awards twenty twenty five. Yes, we are joined
by someone who I have been wanting to speak with.
Big fan of hers, love what she's doing in in
the sports world. We haven't had a chance to connect personally. Well,
here we are at the BT. What's twenty twenty five?
Joy Taylor.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yes, we actually need a proper We have a segment
called Don't Know Bull that we do every Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Oh yes, John, I don't know. I don't know about ball.
We need you to come up there. Don't tell us
about ball and act like they do.

Speaker 12 (31:17):
We need somebody had this conversation a few minutes ago.

Speaker 15 (31:21):
It's okay, though, it's.

Speaker 12 (31:23):
So intimidating to talk about sports, like who cares?

Speaker 6 (31:27):
So you're wrong?

Speaker 16 (31:28):
We're wrong all the time. I mean, I'm not wrong,
but prong all.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
The tif your mortals are. But yeah, you know, it's okay.

Speaker 12 (31:36):
It's people be ranting and won't even know that the
players not on the team anymore. Coach, it's not even there,
like it's okay, we just we just talk. That's all right.
It's so intimidating talk about sports. You don't need to
know every single rule and every single player that played
for the eighty seven Yankees, Like it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
It's that that defines who you are as a sports broadcast.

Speaker 16 (31:56):
Is the blood type?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Was Babe Ruth? Actually black? Yes?

Speaker 12 (32:02):
Now listen to that question, and I feel like I haven't.
But they're like, you're not taking Babe Ruth from us,
So that weekend we're gonna take.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Away taking baby for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
And I have seen on the photo of his first cousins. Yes,
that is a black man.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
George Herman.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
That name is what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's the old black man?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, I don't have we got here? Is Halliburton the
worst human being that's ever existed. That's how I feel.

Speaker 16 (32:37):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I hate everything about him. It's from pure hate, it's
from pure jealousy.

Speaker 12 (32:42):
He is having an all time run. His life is
never gonna be the same, and I love it for him.
Like be prepared because if you hate him, he's gonna
be on every commercial this summer. Yes, you about to
see his face on every promo for the league next year.
He's gonna have deals on deals. It's gonna be. I
can see it now, Like someone is scripting this cinematic.

(33:03):
Do you remember the remember the commercial Lebron did uh
with the take Rena Church.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Of course coming?

Speaker 12 (33:12):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but for Caliburton, for the overrated thing,
Like it's gonna be like all the clips like Caliburton,
It's gonna be like dribbling and then they're gonna I mean,
I'm just give me ten percent.

Speaker 16 (33:26):
I just wrote it from you.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
I'm very I mean, we obviously know he's a he's
a great player, but I am surprised by his performance
in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
I will be.

Speaker 12 (33:35):
Yeah, I think we all I mean we all are
it's he's but we're surprised because we've never seen it before,
Like he's never had these moments.

Speaker 16 (33:43):
Last year they got swept.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
Yeah, they're let's be honest, they're the Pacers. They don't
have national media games. They don't get that, don't have
fourteen games this year, right, Yeah, So it's it's really
not surprising that everyone is surprised and and he's now
stepping into the moment like you are something until you're not.
So I think the overrated things obviously like that's going

(34:05):
to follow him and make it.

Speaker 16 (34:06):
At this point, you should want to be called overrated.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
Josh Allen won the MVP in Olivert and I was
having the run of his life, like call me overrated,
Please let me speak this on me, like do a
forty minute podcast.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Have we've seen a playoff run in the last decade
that has been close to Aliburn right now.

Speaker 12 (34:20):
Well, Halliburn is also so unique because he isn't Lebron.

Speaker 16 (34:24):
He isn't He's not.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
This overwhelming figure like he isn't He's not an intimidated
figure on the court. But the thing that I think
that that people aren't speaking to is the fact that
that team has been together. They kept that team together.
They're cool players.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
A lot of the guys have been together maybe two
or three years now, and I think it's just clicking
at the right time.

Speaker 12 (34:42):
They if they end up winning this series, they're gonna
make things very difficult for a lot of gms because
they are not built with multiple superstars. They're not built
to be a super dominating team. They would have beat

(35:05):
a completely dominant team in the Thunder who has.

Speaker 16 (35:09):
The league MVP.

Speaker 12 (35:10):
So the excuses of oh, well, we need more stars
or we need no, I don't need to put together
a rosser that compliments each other, that plays a certain
style of ball, that has someone who is a clutch player.

Speaker 16 (35:23):
It is extremely well coached.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I mean, do you think that aau era is over
like even to the Celtics what they've done. Of course
they're superstars, but not to the degree of what like
the Heat used to do, even the Celtics before Lakers,
is that done even with Well, I mean, I think the.

Speaker 12 (35:40):
Super team era kind of died with Kawhi, Like yeah,
when he moved, he sort of debted the super team thing.
And we haven't really seen a superteam win since the Warriors.
They've still been assembled, but it just hasn't worked out.
And the risk of that is you're so top heavy
that you have to really be with an organization like

(36:02):
the Warriors are, like the Heat that finds these players
that they can develop quickly and put them in these
unbelievable positions to ascend in the postseason, Like you got
to be a well run organization to do that. So
I do think the league is changing in a lot
of ways. Obviously, it's become very international, so the style
of play is changing. The fan base, how we consume

(36:22):
it is changing, how we react to certain players is changing.
Like it's just we've seen the switch over from the
Ogs to the younger guys now in this finals. It's
also two very small markets without transcendent superstars like Sga
is a superstar for sure, Halliburtn's just become one, but
SGA is not a household name for the casual sports fan.

(36:46):
So I do think like what happens next year with
the league will be very interesting, like how and what
young player takes that face of the league role on,
Because while Lebron is still there, his you know, shadow
looms for the league as it should and stuff is still.

Speaker 16 (37:05):
There, it's a new era and.

Speaker 12 (37:08):
Who steps into that space will be very interesting or
if we even need it.

Speaker 16 (37:13):
I mean I think that you do, Like I.

Speaker 12 (37:15):
Think when you think of a league, like you think
of the NFL, you think of my homes, you think
of like the young stars in the league that are winning.

Speaker 16 (37:21):
So it'll be interesting to see how it develops.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Where is your passion for sports to come from?

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Like did you grow up in a household where you
had to kind of like argue over what we were
watching and things like that?

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Like where does that come from? Because you don't see
many women.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Talk sports the way you do, Like you're talking from
a very a place of No. I grew up this
is what I do, Like, where does that come from?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
So?

Speaker 12 (37:41):
I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, PA. And I grew
up with my aunt and my aunts and my grandmother
were big sports fans, as most pretty much everyone in
a city like.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Pittsburgh is still a nation.

Speaker 16 (37:54):
Yeah, and when the game came on, everyone had to
shut up.

Speaker 12 (37:59):
They knew every player, they knew the coaches, they knew
the coordinators. If they lost, they were pissed. Everyone should
be fired, Like I just grew up. My mother is
a die hard Cowboys fan. Don't ask me why or how,
but she is a diehard Cowboys fan. She will rewatch
games two days, Like we know the outcome of this game.

(38:20):
She's like, yeah, but I didn't get to see the
first quarter, so she will rewatch the game, which is like,
I'm not even that bad. So it's just always been
familiar to me to have an opinion or point of
view on sports. And I grew up playing sports. I
played basketball, soccer, volleyball, track. Obviously I come from a
sports family as well. And I really think growing up

(38:42):
in a city that sports is ingrains in like the
culture and the community of the city in such a
historic way, in such a proud way. Because the Seilers
are just like a dynastic organization, It's just familiar to me,
like I just expect that everyone has a review wants.

Speaker 16 (39:01):
I have to remind myself some times, so like everybody
doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
This much with music.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, it's it's just what's familiar to me, Okay, as
coming from a city that is the same way about
their basketball team. I've been a lifelong tortured Knicks fan.
That's why I started with hating Halliburton before we let
you go. How do you feel about the Tips firing.

Speaker 16 (39:24):
I didn't like it. I didn't like it either, so I'm.

Speaker 9 (39:27):
I loved it. I get it, but because I knew
he was going to get fired, because.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
He's the only one that's brought in us this far.

Speaker 16 (39:35):
Like I'm a big fan of firing coaches.

Speaker 12 (39:37):
I think a coach really has to earn getting fired. Also,
hearkening back to the Steelers, like the Steelers are always good.
Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season, which is remarkable,
and especially when you look at what he's had to
work with from the quarterback position. They've had three coaches
in the history of their organization. Now they've been incredible coaches.

(39:59):
But the problem with firing coaches is we just look
at the guy who we see, right. We don't hold
gms accountable the way that we do coaches. Obviously we
can't hold owners accountable, but owners fiddle with things all
the time that take things out of the coach's hands.
So when you have a meddling owner, is it the

(40:22):
coach's fault or is it because this owner didn't want
to pay this player that this coach wanted. Like we
don't know all the behind the scenes things that happen.
What we do know is consistency and growth. And I
feel like that's what Sibbs did for the next organization,
and he stabilized the organization. Like I hate talking about
poorly run organization. It's like I don't want to give

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them airtime because I know how hard it is for
people in that building to have success.

Speaker 16 (40:47):
When you go into work and it's utter.

Speaker 12 (40:49):
Chaos when you don't have the things that you need,
when you don't have the support that you need, when
you don't have the staff that you need, when they're
not bringing in the players that you need, Like it's
so hard to win, Like that, so much goes into winning,
and we zero in on the coaches because they're the
guys that we see on the sideline. Also, when you
fire a coach, their whole staff usually gets fired, which.

Speaker 16 (41:07):
Means there's a whole changeover.

Speaker 12 (41:09):
So players, guys who are down the bench a little
bit who had this connection with this coach, who are
actually developing and like getting some momentum.

Speaker 16 (41:16):
Now they got to get a new coach in there.
Maybe they don't get along with them.

Speaker 12 (41:19):
Like there's it's such a it's such an avalanche of
effects that happen when you bring in a new coaching,
a new coach because they have their own staff, and
then maybe they have a specific style of practice that
doesn't work.

Speaker 16 (41:33):
Like it's just it's never ending. Yeah, And I am
just a fan of it should.

Speaker 12 (41:38):
Be obvious that the coach needs to be fired, like
they should be obvious. And if you are, if you
take this organization further than they've been in twenty five years,
maybe just give him one more year.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
That's what That's where I'm at with that at that.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
But he made some mistakes in the playoffs, but I'm
with Joy on that, like, well, it needs to be
a bigger reason than just they fell.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Sure, but there's a thing going around now that's kind
of looting. That cat got him fired in Minnesota and
now cat got him fired in New York clips that
I'm kind of having, you know.

Speaker 12 (42:09):
Yeah, I don't know that that's like, I don't know
that that's like the reason that he got fired. Obviously,
we know superstars play a big role in who the
coach is and if they stay, and sometimes they may
make like an offhand comment that influences things. I don't
I have no idea whether he did or he didn't,
But to me, I just I would have given him

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one more year. Like I think they had. They overachieved
this year. Nobody had him in the Eastern Conference finals.
With all due respect, So you ever achieved this year? Yes,
you fell short. Run it back one more year. You've
run better every single year. If you fall shorter than
your expectations next year, cool, you didn't get the job.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
They invest in a bench and give it another year.

Speaker 16 (42:49):
Yeah, I would have given it one more year.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
Well, Joy, we got to have you on Don't Know Ball.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, I'm still proper episode for share next time you're
in New York. Definitely got to appreciate it. Let's do it, George.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
All right, Rory, we are back BT Awards twenty twenty five. Yes,
and we are sitting down finally with a West Coast
representative on the wrap side.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
But we had Mazi earlier.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
Yeah, yea, we have Mazi oak Park now sitting down
with a Z.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Shike.

Speaker 9 (43:17):
Yes, I don't want to say chee k. I'm gonna say,
bro man, I'm good to be aware to work you man,
They too, They too. Yeah, we're getting right.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
So it's a good weekend, no bt, always a good weekend.
Good weekend.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
I'm proud of you too. More this is this is
showing piece and solidarity. He had my my favorite verse
on g n X, my favorite feature for surely, I mean,
no homo. I followed him right after I heard peekaboo.
I like follow men on Instagram like that before you
told us that. I'm glad after I heard people after

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he heard about your man not sorry for your loss, ize,
I'm following him, coach. That was the only person I
followed immediately after I heard gn X. But what the
internet thinks about you? I think this is great that
both of y'all are sitting down the West Coast together.

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The show we can all live.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
They tried to make it East coast, West Coast thing
ovo West Coast. No man, it's all love it's not,
but especially for me l A. You know, Rory La
is a second home from me. How you feeling about
how's the success of you know, being on one of
the biggest albums of the year.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, how's life changed?

Speaker 5 (44:33):
How's you know? How the ladies treating you? How they
talking to you?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Now? The text messages respawning a little faster?

Speaker 17 (44:39):
Uh yeah, yeah, you know bitches that I ain't talked
to him three years opening up.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
I like that, he said, bitches, you know what I'm saying,
you don't talk me for three years.

Speaker 17 (44:50):
Yeah, they're responding to text happy birthdays from three years ago.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
It was checking up on you go ahead. They didn't
even hear about the Super Bowl.

Speaker 17 (45:01):
But no, man, I just I've just been working, bro,
and you know, like I've been doing my bends just
to stay focused and not get too caught up and everything.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
You know what I'm saying, because it can be a lot.

Speaker 17 (45:11):
Yeah, So, you know, I just had my little things,
like I like this last thing when I did the
GNX sword shit like that.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I think, like, through all.

Speaker 17 (45:19):
The shit that's been happening in the past six months,
I felt that one of the most like once it
hit all over the internet, like I felt like overwhelmed
a little bit, like over stimulated, like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Like I felt that the most. So I kind of
like I.

Speaker 17 (45:33):
Didn't take a little break, but I didn't post or
nothing for a little bit, like all right, hold on,
let me let this sink in for a minute, you.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (45:39):
And yeah, that's really just how I've been dealing with
everything though, you know, just finding balance, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Has it been a lot of pressure? You know, because
I've seen because the internet has been a mess with
everything that happened last year? Fact, fact, has there been
a lot of pressure with people saying every feature from
GNX should have capitalized on that ship the next fucking day,
Like why didn't they all have albums ready to go
that next day? What's the pressure been like with getting
something so important and so great?

Speaker 17 (46:07):
I mean, respectfully, bro, I don't really deal with that
shit because I'm the example that they use. It is
why Nigga should capitalized. Well you should have did it?
Like check, well, check did this ch that? So I
don't necessarily feel feel that particular pressure. I guess the
pressure I do feel is like coming with a real

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body of work. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's
what's gonna make this shit really stick and count.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (46:37):
So and it's not really pressure, but you know what
I'm saying, like I feel it though, you know what
I'm saying. That's the only thing I'm kind of like
focused are like I guess you could say concerned about
It's like following up with that body of work, bro,
Like that's what's gonna count.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Like these singles I do.

Speaker 17 (46:53):
It's cool, you know, the dot looks is great, but
you know, I got to build my own foundation and
it's gonna start there with that album.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
You know what I mean, What is it?

Speaker 4 (47:05):
What is it like for you though, Like to be
able to touch a stage in a stadium like so
far like that many people looking at you hearing you, like,
how does that affect your creativity? How does that affect
you know, the way you look at the industry, Like
things have to change once you on a platform in
the stage that big.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, I mean it really just leveled me up, you
know what I'm saying. Like and.

Speaker 17 (47:31):
You know, like like when when I did this ship
like and That's why I tak a lot of people,
Like I was so focused on the performance. I didn't
really like get too submerged into the crowd.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (47:44):
I had the custom in ears in so I couldn't
hear nothing, Like all I could hear was the beat
myself and die, Like I couldn't hear nothing. And then
I was so focused on hitting my cues. You know,
I didn't you know what I'm saying, I didn't want
to bump into the dancers. And then when you see
his walk on the second side of the age, like
I had to.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Keep up with him.

Speaker 17 (48:02):
Okay, we did the little choreographer bub band thing. So
I'm so focused on that, Like it didn't hit me
till later. Like I'm liking all the videos Twitter people
figuring out, but I'm like, I'm really saving this later
because I'm watch it. That was the only way I
was able to see the crowd reaction was through the videos,
and you know, or it just leveled me up, bro,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like again, it just

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make it makes sense and you know, as people know
I fought for that, you know what, I'm like, I
have to get on the ass to make sure I
got on that stage.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
And I couldn't fuck up, couldn't suck up because I
asked for that ship. You gotta be ready for it.

Speaker 17 (48:34):
Yeah, And even before we went on stage, he like
called me in his green room, like right before, like
two songs before I think Sizzl was still on stage,
and he was like, he was like, you nervous. I
was like, no, heim, I asked for this. He's like, yeah, nigga,
bet not be nervous. Your poker face though, bro. So

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it's just a level of bro. That's it for for real.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
How has that helped with what you want to do
with live performances moving forward? H It's like going Sophie
is crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Very crazy, bro U. It helped a lot.

Speaker 17 (49:12):
I mean the main thing is like real live performance,
no backtrack, Like that's the real thing, keeping your breath,
no backtrack, Like I performed without backtracks before, but not
the full hour set, you know what I'm saying. Like
that's a different ball game, Like you know what I'm saying.
So that's one thing that I took from that that

(49:33):
I have to work on. I don't have it all
the way, Like there's some songs out of my catalog
that I can do. But the other one, like I
got to figure out a way, like you know what
I'm saying, to sauce it and you know, like do
different things and that that's the one thing, the no
backtrack shit, like yeah, the real performance, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
After hitting that type of stage, do you feel like
at some point you probably uh you took for granted
exactly how much goes into performing Because to be able
to be on the stage that big and hit those cues,
that's that far apart. Yeah, that type of performance is
a different level fact, So do you look at that
part of your career like, Okay, I got a sharp
in my live.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Performance set no for real Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 17 (50:10):
But at the same time, Bro, you couldn't tell me
none of this ship was gonna happen a year ago,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I performed.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
What was it?

Speaker 17 (50:19):
I think it was the form not to pop out,
But before that I did.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I think it was the blank Face Store.

Speaker 17 (50:27):
Well, Q and I brought us out there and it
still wasn't nothing like that because I didn't go with him,
like we open for him.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know what, I'm saying, but.

Speaker 17 (50:36):
In a way, in a way, you know again, I
just think I couldn't see myself. I never see myself
on that type of stage, you know what I'm saying.
So yeah, now that I am, I guess you can't
say that, like you know what I mean, Like I
have to get sharper bro, Like you know, the bar
said right now, Yeah, the bar said. And because everybody's
seen it, it's like now they're like, all right, it's
gotta be at that. If it's set thousand or five

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hundred people in that room, you to perform.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
That's the fact.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
One of my favorite videos this year was you with
your family watching the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Like, honestly, that was like just beautiful to watch in general.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
You know, I complimented it in your comments and got
killed by every TD fan on Earth.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I just tried to compliment him.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
He's sitting with his family watching that and then Kendrick
does part of the verse with his day.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
I was like, this is amazing.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, what was that like sharing that moment just with
your family, I mean capturing I know, it was incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Uh Bro, we didn't think he was gonna do that.

Speaker 17 (51:41):
Ship Yeah, I didn't know like, we didn't even think
he was gonna do that many new songs, but it
made sense because he was going on the tour and
it's pretty much the same set list, right, So I
didn't we didn't think he was gonna do that. My
menasurer here was like, we're just gonna watch. She's like,
he's gonna do peekaboo or whatever. We're just gonna watch.
And I captured it on my TikTok Live. There's nobody

(52:03):
in my life, bro, I like twelve people, you know
what I'm saying, And he did so he did the
damn song, So now we're freaking out. There's no way. Hell,
I thought he was gonna wrap my verse though, you
know what I'm saying. So if you watch the video,
it's like he do the song, we turn, they do
my ship.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
We super freak out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (52:23):
And it was crazy, bro, just a it was a
real wholesome moment, and I guess it's good because it
was captured and kind of get people like where I'm
coming from and my essence and make them rood for
me more because they like.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
You can see, it wasn't some set up social media
say with your family with.

Speaker 17 (52:40):
A real reaction the moment, and I understand, like how
passionate that I am and my family only freaking out
like that because they know how much fucking work I
can put in, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
So it's like, damn all this shit is coming tuition,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
So where we at with the album? How far are
we or how close are we to getting it?

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Ship?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, I gotta ask that's yeah, yeah, super Bowl up?
Cool with the album.

Speaker 17 (53:02):
This album facts, I've been working on it since fucking
what February. I think so far, and I have some
strong records, bro, I think the last stage I'm in
now it's features, you know what I'm saying. Even my
last my last single, I dropped Game Time that came

(53:23):
out of working on the album, you know what I'm saying.
So it's a lot of great records like that and
different shit too. But I'm on the future side of
things now, you know what I'm saying, And I'm glad
I took my time because through all these different events.
Now these other bigger artists is hitting me up. You
know what I'm saying, Like, not just rapper, but r
and b artists like going my mind.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Like I mean, with your tone, I think you should
be working with the artists like.

Speaker 17 (53:45):
They telling me, like, you know, I'm working on some
demos for you. I'm gonna send it over. I'm just
like Nigga one like all right, man, like you know
what I'm saying. So that's the stage i'man now is
knocking those features out. I'm start working on it again
next week. So honestly sometime soon bro, like it's going
to be this year for sure, though, Yeah, it's going
to be this year.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
I'm looking forward to hearing it.

Speaker 14 (54:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Man, I gotta get the work. Yeah, I'm looking forward
to get the word.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
I don't know is critiquing, not critiquing, but you know
what i mean, I'm just listening differently because you get
those type of looks, you know, Toronto like Kendrick to
Stamp you I got. I got to hear what he
what he on, what he talking about?

Speaker 5 (54:26):
I know what that sounded like with Kendrick, but let
me hear what he sound like.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
That's what I'm not looking. I'm not over critical.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
It's just like I'm looking forward to hand what you
did away from all that all of that noise. I
don't like to call it noise, but it's noise, just like, yeah,
it's big fact what you did away from that much?

Speaker 5 (54:40):
That was quiet?

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Right, That's what I'm looking forward to real sh sh
I like that a lot like.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
That again, my opinion the standout feature on gm X
no real complex does list.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
That's just what the fuck they do?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah, what what did you think about complexes? Was the
top twenty five? They did twenty five?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It was a fifty d fifty top fifty rappers from
Los Angeles? How did you feel about complex list?

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Park wasn't doing there?

Speaker 17 (55:08):
That was the biggest Like, yeah, I didn't even notice that.
Yeah they told me that ship last night.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Bro.

Speaker 17 (55:18):
Through all this, I've been learning to separate myself from
things like as far as as far as like taking
ship so personal.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I can't take you personally.

Speaker 17 (55:27):
Everything is opinionated. Yeah, it's their opinion. I'm not mad
at it. Yeah, I mean it would have make s
us to kind of get the backstory on who made
the list?

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Okay, are you even from the West?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Yeah, anytime you look at the list, we always wanted
to who made this?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Who made this?

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Like what is your background, what allows you to even
make this list?

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Right? So until they start doing shit like that, I
don't really feel no way about it. You don't give
it too much energy because.

Speaker 17 (55:55):
You're not really standing on business. You're not coming out
like all right brok background like I'm hip hop with
he would, You're not doing that. You're writing it and
hiding like.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Right, what the goal is to get clicks and make
people talk about it. So even know you're going to
put that type of ship. Yeah, but Game, who I
felt just my personal list, I think Game is top
five for the West, just my personal the fact that
they put him, I think with eleven games at eleven,
I think Game is top five. I agree he put

(56:27):
out his own list he had you had seventy eight,
I believe. Yeah, just like you know who Game is
and what he represents to the West Coast, Yeah, him
him acknowledging that you should have been on the list
when it comes to now fuck with.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Game, bro.

Speaker 17 (56:42):
He has an amazing catalog your dog, you know what
I'm saying, And you know it's artists like like that.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
That like makes my mom understand where I am.

Speaker 17 (56:53):
You know what I'm saying, because she raised me we
listened in the game Black All Street List.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
You know what I'm saying, So now was rude?

Speaker 17 (57:01):
She gets it like when I'm like I sent in
the picture on with game the Wood, she gets it like,
oh okay, I'm doing it. You know what I'm saying.
So I be need no type of moment. So I
definitely have a different respect level of the game. He
definitely one of the ones bro without doubt, of doubt,
with out of doubt.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Before we let you go, because I feel like this
was a great peaceful moment for the internet.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Can you say something nice about Joey badass.

Speaker 11 (57:29):
Joy away from god Man? What one thing I can say?
Oh God, I wish, I wish what.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
You doing with the power Ship is still I mean,
it's still amazing.

Speaker 17 (57:48):
You know I'm saying I do wish he like consistently
went crazy, Like okay, not saying never wish he got
into acted because I said that shit still fired. But
I feel like if he just was a going crazy,
he would really be like you know what I mean,
he still feel me.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
But he definitely surprised a lot of people included with
with his performance.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
But I was what was we speaking to earlier?

Speaker 4 (58:13):
But I said, I love the fact that all of
that happened because it forced the rappers to rap. Everybody
started rapping it. People's getting the studio putting records out
the next day. Like the turnover time was incredible. So
if we got if that is what we needed to
get guys rapping, I'm for it.

Speaker 17 (58:29):
It was a good sparm, bro. Like it was great,
Like that shit was fun. Nobody got hurt, you know
what I'm saying. Like, not like that, bro, but like
I dine been in real rap function. You feel me
like niggas getting heard. I catch you with you, you
know what I'm saying. So that ship just you know,
kicking up dust, making the fans happy, bro, even.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Like how Daylight closed it. The entire thing I thought
was perfect, Like this is how ship can It can
be fine.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Like everybody just rap and everybody everybody move on.

Speaker 17 (58:58):
Compared to all the other ship that's been happening before
our list the day I'm smoking with the would I.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Don't need that really, yeah, we don't need that energy.
So niggas like that, like us can set the example,
then why not.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
You know, we still wrap get our balls off, but
it's still love at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Back looking forward to you.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
I'm looking forward to the project we're going.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I'm checking. I'll check you.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Go to New York, come to episode and sit down for.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
I'm coming soon, probably like the end of this month
or July. I'm coming soon. Man, you know they got me.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Ship life is very good for you. So it's definitely
bullet up bro back BT Awards twenty twenty five. Yes,
and we are sitting with the talented.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Had to flag her down. She didn't want to come
fuck with us. Listen, man, she being a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
She's being a celebrity right now. But listen.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
This is one of my favorite, my personal favorite facts.
Mal mcs out of New York City.

Speaker 16 (01:00:03):
The Bronx.

Speaker 18 (01:00:04):
Yeah, it's heavy, Big Bronx.

Speaker 8 (01:00:05):
Yeah, we all say, because say I'm totally differ You
have to give a good introductions.

Speaker 18 (01:00:12):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
This one's actually I'm glad she's here this week, can
have actual personal interview.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
You know she curved me for a date once.

Speaker 18 (01:00:22):
Oh my god, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I like that curved this nigga, I like I trying
to set it up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
What's the joint in Jersey with the ski ship? I
was I was snowboarder.

Speaker 18 (01:00:38):
Snowboys. So he saw it on my on my Instagram
and then yeah, he tried to his way in there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Yeah, caught a little rhythm. Like then I got curved.
I was like, you know what, it's emotions. I'm not trying.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
She will get a fire emoji.

Speaker 8 (01:00:54):
You send me the little vinyl you're vinyl for your song,
and then I send me that you're supposed to me
some socks for your little thing, and you didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Do none of that merch'. But she's but just like
a woman, she's telling half the story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
With me, at least, I'm sure with other people it's different.
You are the worst texter I've ever met, my fucking
I know, but call me.

Speaker 8 (01:01:17):
I tell everybody that everybody want to send all these
text messages.

Speaker 18 (01:01:20):
Don't FaceTime me, call me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
So not knowing that after I get turned down with
the snowboarding data, you think the next move is to
call it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Get this.

Speaker 16 (01:01:37):
For what you want?

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
I want to committed enough.

Speaker 18 (01:01:43):
Yeah, you gotta get three hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
On the concourse with the boom box, the sout the music,
because absolutely you're one of the You're one of the
ones that just your voice alone on the track. You
set yourself apart from the entire pack. Thank you what
we're doing with the music, because I'm waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I'm waiting.

Speaker 8 (01:02:06):
Yeah, So a lot of people to know I was
locked in a contract for eight years. I just got
released to two weeks ago. Correct, thank you someone I
brought me out. But yeah, I was locked in a
contract with a production company you know how they do.
And yeah, so there wasn't letting me released for a
long time. Like I wasn't really able to do anything,
so and it was kind of it was messing up
everything else. But I was still trying to, you know,

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hit my ones in twos, like I still had luckily
Nicki helping me out, Like I had a lot of
people that that was you know, I don't know, can
I curse a lot of people that was fucking with me,
that supported me. So I'm very grateful for that. And
then I was doing my modeling, my little acting thing
here and there too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Definitely active. He was on stage see with Nicki. NICKI
brough up to I thought that was fire for her
to bring.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Y'all out and have y'all touch the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
That was showing a lot of love your next wave
of the female rappers coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
How did that come about the relationship with Nicki and
you know the possy cut that y'all did, which is fire.

Speaker 16 (01:02:58):
Yeah, Well when.

Speaker 8 (01:02:59):
Nicki, I don't know, I just always like just show
up to her on Twitter, Instagram and everything. And then
she sent my name in an interview, like she thanked
me in an interview for just you know, just always
saying her name, like even through the hate train like
she you know. So I don't know, it just I
kind of like grew over over past that. And then
I did the when she had Queen Radio, she brought

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me up there to freestyle for her and that was amazing.
So it kind of it's weird how it started. Like
first she started playing my music on Queen Radio. Then
she hit me up to actually go up there and
wrap for her. And then she always like you know,
throws me in little bones and stuff like that, and
I fuck with her for that, you know, because she
don't be having to do that, but she does.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
It sounds like you had a better Queen Radio experience
than we did. You guys, Kenny was shadow boxing with
balloons in the backgrounds for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I know you guys be fighting crime.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you have the best verse on
that posse cut.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
Would you say the same of course.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
Now, to be honest, I think Nicki's was right.

Speaker 18 (01:04:13):
Let me tell you why.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
Nikkis was right because she said she was inspired by
my flow and the things that she was saying after
me was fire. So I thought, like, hands down, like
you know, because I grew up listening to her, So
to hear her like use my flow on the song
and then kill it, I was. I was.

Speaker 18 (01:04:29):
My mind was blown.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
That's why I thought you had the best verse.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
But once Nikki put that out and I saw that
she took because I thought maybe you heard Nikki's verse
or no, no, no exactly, she was like yeah, and I.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Got that flow from her.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
I was like, yes, she did a whole other extra verse.
She said that was going to be it. She wasn't
even going to do that, and then she heard my part.
It was like, no, I got to keep it going,
and I'm so glad she did because I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
I was.

Speaker 18 (01:04:51):
Look, I was on a high for like months over that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I remember the first time I met Mitch.

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Was in the studio saying with Bird sing yes, and
we walk in the jungle, I think it was jungle
was walking and he playing his joint and it's this girl.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Rapping and I'm like the voice was I was like, yo,
who the fuck up from behind the fucking board and
I guess she was sitting there right behind it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
She pops up and was like me. I was like,
there's no way that's her voice, like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Incredible tone texture, Like is that something that you because
obviously you can't get away from me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
The Foxy and Malleable comparison.

Speaker 18 (01:05:38):
Ship, I stole it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I ran with it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:44):
No, but definitely I went through a phase will like
when I did the Top five project, I was like,
I remixed it little can Foxy Laura Hill Missy from there.

Speaker 18 (01:05:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
It was just like I went to a deep rabbit
hole of Foxy and I was like listening to all
her stuff and then I don't know, I just liked
every thing that she embody Like, you know, she was
very pretty, very cutesy, but also very gangster, and that's
how I feel like, you know, so I just like,
I honestly jacked the whole shit. I'll be telling her
all the time and she'll just die out laughing at me.

Speaker 18 (01:06:10):
But yeah, I jacked that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
I'm glad you cleared that up because that was definitely
every time I hear Mitch, I'm like, yo, her tone
is so crazy. It's definitely reminiscent of Foxy. Yeah, but
from a different perspective, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Know what I'm saying?

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
So was that was Foxy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
The one? Growing up?

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Was that the one you kind of was like, Yo,
she's my Like I've.

Speaker 18 (01:06:30):
Always loved Foxy, like like really like growing up, I
was like a Nikki head.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Oh de okay o.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Like later on this one, I started fucking with Foxy,
you know, so yeah, but I'm definitely a Foxy girl.

Speaker 18 (01:06:43):
Like you know, she was just so flying. She's in
so fashion and I am too, you know. So yeah,
I think that's very New York though, fly girl, like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
You know, yeah again, congrats of getting out of that
thankful contrast.

Speaker 18 (01:06:56):
You're gonna throw me a party about me something I'm
gonna love.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Boo boo.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
We'll do it at the study.

Speaker 9 (01:07:01):
You don't know what.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
I don't know about snowboarding.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
No, boo.

Speaker 18 (01:07:07):
Boo is the little dolls? You don't know the little doors?
Oh my god, I'll buy you guys, one's.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
We gotta look it up and give him one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
First of all, how much does it costs?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Is there like an exclusive one that you don't have?

Speaker 18 (01:07:28):
I want the one that's five hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
That's the that's the collab with deal over that way.

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
But wait, you gotta open mad boxes to find that
one though, So it's gonna break.

Speaker 18 (01:07:40):
Golden tickets.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
Yeah, you online and get it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
Your store line in the store is pop Mark. You
gotta go to pop Mark, Popmark. Ye, y'all gonna well
the city they be having the fake ones, so they
got them l a Mart pop Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Yeah, and there's like a five hundred dollars one.

Speaker 18 (01:07:58):
That's how they much of the reselling it for that.
Ain't that ain't nothing?

Speaker 13 (01:08:03):
But look, I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
It's gonna break the bank because it's like you got
to open it to see if it's if it's that one.
So you're just gonna be sitting there for probably like
weeks on end, trying to find the one.

Speaker 18 (01:08:13):
That crazy and why should you hear about it?

Speaker 8 (01:08:16):
Like in a couple of weeks, you gonna be like, yo,
Malibu been putting me.

Speaker 18 (01:08:18):
Onto that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
And is it just an l a thing.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
Exoi No, it's like because you're no, I'm Blazian. So
it's like a big thing that's happening in Asia right now.
And it's happening right now too because the Central Seat
he started wearing them.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
So it's a bunch of people and the text too. Right.

Speaker 18 (01:08:37):
Oh yeah, I get me in trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
That's what Sid said. He said he started Nike t
that was.

Speaker 16 (01:08:42):
A New York thing.

Speaker 18 (01:08:43):
Why not be hearing?

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
Yeah, like I love the fact that, like Wen, I don't.

Speaker 18 (01:08:53):
Know, we love Central Seat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
But again, congrats you put out music forward to let's
also talk offline now that you can put music out.

Speaker 8 (01:09:04):
Yeah, I just dropped something with Jeremiah. It's called Benjamin
the video.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Yes, Jeremiah in the Hood, Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
Definitely did you clear?

Speaker 18 (01:09:13):
Yeah for you, I want to check in checking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Uptown and the hood, like in the store and all
I was like, yeah, the mink on fly very fing
checking out. She's dope. She's dope.

Speaker 8 (01:09:29):
And Alex in the way shut down his whole store
for us and the dream war that fly right.

Speaker 18 (01:09:34):
You fly girl ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Was twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Thank you baby, Thank you guys. Nah I don't even
want to do an intro with this because they say
we don't get yeah, East coast West right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be by.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Got around to talk, ay, but I just seen my
guy Reason back this way, said, wait, they're in the
scene you Yeah, other co host.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
I have a group chat with her and Reason And
when you dropped your joint, Man, we was doing seeing him.
I was sending him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
It was doing a lot. He was doing a lot.

Speaker 12 (01:10:20):
Lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
They was doing a lot. Why are you not replying?
I was doing a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
I was doing a lot. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
We're sitting here with cod Cash Reason. First of all,
it is good to see y'all. Man, thank you, thank
you for sure. For sure BT was twenty twenty five.
You're running around acting like celebrities and.

Speaker 16 (01:10:35):
She hated it.

Speaker 19 (01:10:36):
I hate it, but you know what I mean, it's
just totally different. I said, I hate it my social
with my social battery. Yeah that's why I love Yeah, yeah,
exactly one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
So you gotta love it. I absolutely hate it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
It's good to have both of y'all here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
After the last few weeks or a couple of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Months that we had, we sat down with a few
MASI sat down Masi earlier, Belly Gang, a few few
other rappers, and everybody was on the same page of
agreeing that the moment that we had with young rappers
rapping and pushing their pin and putting joints out was fire,
super tough. Was definitely need super tough. And I think
that y'all too, were definitely two of the guys that
was through y'all, Hatch and Ring. How was it from

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each perspective of that moment and your respective corners coasts, right,
and like what was the energy?

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Will start with you kay in New York during that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Moment when we was getting jumped, That's that showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
For me. It's like we're supposed to be the Mecca,
were supposed to have the spinners.

Speaker 20 (01:11:31):
We supposed to be. It's crazy because I looked at
it as a consumer at first. Okay, until this nigga
drop tell her he's talking to all of you niggas
and like Joey b is gonna just like nah, I
felt compeled. I was like, as a New York rapper,
who am I to not put myself into this conversation?

Speaker 12 (01:11:50):
Right?

Speaker 21 (01:11:50):
That was it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
The reason because you we was on We was on
on spaces for sure until I dropped every.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Ship.

Speaker 22 (01:12:00):
It was.

Speaker 23 (01:12:00):
It was one of them things where I like, I
agree with Kyle like it was it was weird. It
was like, why are these niggas just letting Joey catch
all the fades?

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
And so when Joey, you admit we was being jumped, No,
we wasn't. You wasn't being jumped.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
That's what it is. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 23 (01:12:14):
It's like to me, it was like like Joey said
my name, but I didn't want to throw a whole
joint at Joey because like ray was going, daylight was going.
I'm like, it looked weird if like you know what
I'm saying, Like it's like it's one nigga. So I
was like, I'm gonna throw Joey a couple of bars
and I'm gonna just throw some grenades over there to
the East coast and just see, you know what I'm saying,
what pop out?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
But Ki shit was fired though, like he was he was.

Speaker 23 (01:12:34):
Uh, And I gave him as flowers like you know,
like behind the.

Speaker 20 (01:12:37):
Scenes in fact, yeah, directly after, directly after.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Like to me, it was just like I was.

Speaker 23 (01:12:42):
You know, of course the song is a song, but
like I'm I'm such a huge fan of like New
York culture in general. That's what taught me to do,
how to do music, dress everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 23 (01:12:50):
And so for me, I'm like, why is New York
not like standing on the same principles that I you
know what I mean, no to stand after talking to
some New York niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yeah, yeah, how the fuck do we feel the same
way about this? Yeah, And it's how we had odds
because of that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
I know you feel that way because your family is
deep rooted.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
In It's like I'm like, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 20 (01:13:11):
That's why I said that at the end too, like
like we we gotta, we gotta, we gotta get it together.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
The wave is back, Like we can't do drill forever, y'all.
Like I like it. I'm a fan of it. Shout
out to all artists. I got friend, my friends do drill.

Speaker 20 (01:13:22):
But it's like, if we want to be who we were,
if we have any hope for it, we got to
step up to the play because these niggas is rapid.

Speaker 23 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I do stand there. I told you the West
is the mecca right now of lyricists, and I'm standing
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
How you standing on right now? Right now here, right now?
I just want.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
You gotta a longer pod for this one, ye, which
we definitely need to sit down have a proper episode.
How did y'all feel with that week and finally, like
lyrics trending on the time line, what was it like
having Link and Drama and y'all ear your team and
your ear of capitalizing off that entire moment and the
pressure of what that was like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
I ain't because I know Drama had a whole gangster grills.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
He's like, well dow days.

Speaker 20 (01:14:13):
They didn't even know what I was doing. I finished
the song, I sent it in a group chat. I
was like, I'm dropping this ken.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
It was just like run it, run it, let's do.

Speaker 20 (01:14:23):
As soon as I dropped it I sent it out,
it started going crazy. It was just like, oh, I
bet this is what we are.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
And I was preparing for any responses too, Like I
I was.

Speaker 20 (01:14:32):
I was ready because I knew like consequences and repercussions
might come my way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
That's cool. What's part of the game.

Speaker 23 (01:14:36):
Once you pop outside, you gotta yeah, you gotta you
gotta be prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
For what's coming out to know.

Speaker 23 (01:14:40):
Yeah, but no, that was that was fire My boy
I was on Benjamin actually sent me your joint and yeah,
and that was when I immediately I went on Twitter
like I was like, I'm about to tweet this ship.
This ship is fire like but but nah, like, yeah,
you always want to capitalize off of moments when people
and it's it's funny to me because it's like hip
hop does this thing where it goes back and forth
between like lyrics mattering and then like you like the

(01:15:00):
party shit and da da dah, and then it go
back for a week and exactly you know what I'm saying, Like,
so you know, I'm just hoping that it can stay
here in the space for a little bit because it's
like we need to have like a lane where this
is the topic of discussion, you know what I mean,
and as much work and effort as we put into it,
you get what I'm saying, Like it needs to be that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
So how tough is it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Because both you guys make great music, but a lot
of the times your freestyles will go viral. Literally, is
that like a catch twenty two? Is that not really
as great as people think it is. Does that put
you in a box where you become the frees Like
I've had this conversation.

Speaker 23 (01:15:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just speak for me. I've tried
not to like put myself in that box. So I
try to like do freestyles at a time and then
like lay off it for a cool minute. But also
for me, I'm being honest, Like people don't understand it's
hard to wrap for three minutes straight and be creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Yeah, like over like that shit is draining, bro, So
it's like we need breaks sometimes too.

Speaker 12 (01:15:53):
Well.

Speaker 20 (01:15:54):
For me, I would say the way I look at
it now is we're in such a subjective era of
the D Street. It's like a freestyle could be a hit.
Look at look at hot Nigga. So it's like for me,
anything that go for me is I'm running. I'm running
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Let's do it. Like I dropped a Preacher Man feature,
I mean.

Speaker 20 (01:16:10):
Freestyle right after Nicks and six, and it kind of
went up because everybody that started to pay attention. It's
just like, y'all are paying attention to me because I
brought my a game with lyricism. So it's like if
y'alluck with me for this, even even y'all like y'all,
I'm tapped in with y'all now, so I'm gonna keep
pushing the needle for it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:16:26):
When I gotta make songs, I'm gonna make songs regardless. Yeah,
but I'm gonna stick to what to my guns because
I feel like it's gonna help catapult me in the
long run.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Anyway, before we let y'all go, this is just simply
for our group chat, I need you to rank who
annoys you the most out of Lake Cannon and drama
one to three.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Who annoys you the most?

Speaker 24 (01:16:45):
We haven't got to a point where is annoying they
standing there clutching away everybody number one, So.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Now we have any possibility of and reason getting on
the joint together. That was the first thing.

Speaker 23 (01:17:05):
Yeah, that was the first thing I spoke about, like
we gotta we gotta do a joint together. And it's
it's refreshing to me because like it don't be a
lot of niggas that like can actually you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Like, and so whenever I find.

Speaker 23 (01:17:15):
Somebody that I'm like, oh, this niggas actually fired. That's
the first thing I think of it was like we
gotta do. We got to do a few joints, you
know what I mean, and get some ship out. So
I definitely it's funny because I was actually gonna send
them some ship. I got a Deluxe dropping on Friday,
and I wanted to send them some ship for that.
But the timeline wise, I was like, I'm not gonna
be able to unless this nigga gives me the verse
back in two hours.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
I'm like, I just didn't They still be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
About But we definitely got some out that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
This is what came out of that whole moment, Me
saying it wasn't you know, a real beef and the Internet.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Trying to spin it for something else. I never felt
like that. I felt like it was just wraps.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
It was just balls.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Thank y'all for the energy that y'all put into it
for Thank you the moment. Just being a you know,
a fan of the culture and growing up in this
this hip hop thing. It was good to see younger
cats still be able to throw they had in the
ring and staying on their pens.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Thank you for.

Speaker 11 (01:18:10):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Roy Bet Awards twenty twenty five. Yes, sitting and talking
to some of our favorites and this lady, this artist,
this incredible talent that we're sitting with.

Speaker 9 (01:18:19):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
One of the ones listen with the new in my opinion,
Songs of Women Free Every Game for Niggas.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
That was the soundtrack I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
I played that. I might have played that project every
single day, NonStop.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
The music was incredible, the pen game was incredible, betoned everything.

Speaker 13 (01:18:39):
It was just like, hey, bro, I had all these
complements from a man in a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
We're not doing that, and you have to appreciate it
because you know, off Mike, you took one of his joints.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
Yeah, it's all love.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I respected it. I listened. It was some gangster ship.
I respected it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Sorry, why do you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
We have the edit button? Hey listen.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
I can't get in trouble with nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I like you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I can't get in trouble with nobody. It's so good, Jossy,
how you feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I'm so good? Great?

Speaker 13 (01:19:11):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
The styles over the maculate, thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:19:15):
I appreciate yeah, man, And it was.

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
There was also one time a woman I follow on
Instagram she was on like one of her boat trips
and John was there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
There was a lot of joints on the boat and
then after like two or three, even in the close friends,
I've seen Johszy hovering.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
Over and I was like, if it's baddies, jos said
to the game, If it's baddies in the room, Joszy
is there, you can't get mad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
She was being innes She wasn't doing anything, But I
just know I can feel the energy through through the
close friends.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
How you been y'all know?

Speaker 14 (01:19:47):
So y'all know that that I'm a girl, right, so
me and then like you really be my friends? Yeah,
I say the same thing about doing that, they really
be my friends.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Okay, you know it's a girl, Yeah, I'm not if
you was like it was me.

Speaker 5 (01:20:06):
Right swim, Yeah, if I was a boy, yeah you
know like oh no, if you heard of all.

Speaker 14 (01:20:11):
Y'all, y'all can do that with y'all home like but
like with your whole girl like you know, like we
used to send these outherlessis kids, Yeah, sending lesson. No,
it's just different, right, ain't like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
No, no, it's all love. It's all love. I respect.

Speaker 12 (01:20:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
I'm not fucking with jobs.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
You're not listening to none of this ship. She told
she would the PC should get the funk. I know
when that hold this spot, that the spot, Nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
I know, page don't even yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Yeah you're cold.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
I'm not like like no, but I know I know
where you beat.

Speaker 9 (01:20:44):
I'm in the front, she said, Yeah, I want to
look down. Yeah, I know, I know, I know exactly
what y'all to see you beat you twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:20:56):
Listen now the Arizona good. It's Cody shitting there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
What were doing with the new music?

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
You do music I needed because the EP women, Free
Game and classic. As far as I'm thank you man,
What we doing next? What's next with joy?

Speaker 13 (01:21:12):
I appreciate it so literally.

Speaker 14 (01:21:13):
I dropped the song in March maybe and I did
a stage play to like like promote my music. And
so now I'm dropping another single like in the June.
It's called Dogging. It's I've been like working real hard
just getting that ship out. But project is done and
I'm just want to, like honestly, just stay consistent with
dropping like you know what I'm saying. Like I said,
I got a second chance to drop music. I set

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back for I had to fall back a little bit
with the stuff that was going on my label and
h but now I'm bad man, and I'm just in
a great space like like maybe extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Herd and all of my songs really yes, wow, So.

Speaker 14 (01:21:49):
Like I'm doing my fan base so like I'm loving
it that I'm creating like a world like that's like
that nobody can take that from me. They can't take
my fans away, you know what I'm saying. I'm blessed
to like actually see my fans. That's hard.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
I mean, yeah, we don't need to talk about the
other label ship whatsoever. But during that time, who were
some of like the legends that you were working with
on the writing and producing side during the come up.
That was like one of those moments of sitting there like,
ain't no way I'm writing.

Speaker 14 (01:22:20):
Right now, Wine and Swim. Oh wow man, Yeah that
nigga's so cold. Yeah he called like I did along
with him. Yeah yeah, I actually like I had the
song and then I called him. I was like, yo, bro,
I need your help on this hook, and like he
listened to it on the face song and then he
was like hand on me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
I'm like that's it.

Speaker 14 (01:22:41):
So like it was it's just dope to hav them
like the people around, Like some people don't really get
to be around, like niggas that actually know how to
make a hit. Like we were kind of in a
bad state where it's like we don't have ogz that's
around us to like make shit bigger or like you know,
So that was really dope to be around, Like Mario
wan Is, I got to be around Chucky Thompson rest

(01:23:03):
in peace.

Speaker 13 (01:23:06):
That's all, y'all. I see y'all some real Some people
when I say Chucky.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
They don't, they don't go that far. They don't, they don't.
They don't know, they don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
That's crazy, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
We don't get the whole era of music without you, Like,
don't bro that whole get young Guru without.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
That's the fact. That's the fact.

Speaker 13 (01:23:24):
So I don't know about that. So he came on
to Chucky.

Speaker 25 (01:23:26):
Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, Wow, that made somebody rocke. It's
in everything, yeah, Chucky, the industry God. Absolutely, Who you
trying to work with with?

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
Now?

Speaker 14 (01:23:42):
Man, it's so many dope artists that I would love
to work with. Man Jamison, Okay, I put you on
the group chat right now. Okay, he's so cold. He
was at my stage plates one and didn't take no pictures.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
He just pulled up.

Speaker 14 (01:23:58):
I'm like, I wish I would have liked I don't
want to. I wish I would have like I knew
he was us. I could have just least loved like
you know so Jamison. I would love to collad with
Leon Thomas.

Speaker 13 (01:24:10):
I love Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
I heard the song.

Speaker 14 (01:24:16):
I heard you really DeLux Yet No, Bro, I'm weird
because I'm like competitive.

Speaker 13 (01:24:26):
I don't want to hear nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Ship makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
I don't hear nobody, said most actual artists.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
I've pete that when they're in creation mode, they don't
want to hear anyone else's ship.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
I'm not listening to anything else.

Speaker 13 (01:24:36):
Because it's easy for subconsciously.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
Bro, you're gonna take in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
You're just gonna just or.

Speaker 13 (01:24:41):
You're gonna start matching your music up to other nigga.

Speaker 9 (01:24:43):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
No, he's so good. I know what he is. I
don't want to know one of them.

Speaker 14 (01:24:49):
Let's just you know what I'm saying. When it's time,
let's get in. But I don't want to know. But
I'm about to work with us, said too from internet.

Speaker 5 (01:24:55):
Me said, what you're trying to do?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Man, because this is these names, and I'm just already
knowing where.

Speaker 14 (01:25:01):
I'm excited, bro, Like I just want to create. I think,
like I said, like I'm done with songwriting. I'm letting
that chapter go. I'm in a space where like I'm
doing this for me. I'm doing this for me, and
I'm doing this for like actually being able to feed
my fast. It's getting bigger and bigger. I'm seeing it.

Speaker 13 (01:25:20):
So it just feels good to like actually get love
when you out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Yeah, yeah, making that step. I feel like this era
R and B, like where RAP is, it's a lot
of young young kids. They're nineteen years old. I feel
like the ABC listers of R and B now are older. Yeah,
and they were always the writers, like even down from
from Lucky to Leon Thomas, Like all these people were

(01:25:44):
writing before. And I've had those conversations with them of
like what was the moment of like, yo, fuck this,
I'm making money, but I'm not going to keep doing
this writing shit.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
I'm going to give this artist shit a fair shape.

Speaker 13 (01:25:56):
What was that moment?

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Like even all right, Victoria Victorian money coming off Jaguar too. Yeah,
the amount of success she was having as a writer
before she could have been like, all right, maybe I
should just do this.

Speaker 14 (01:26:06):
Satisfied though, because it's like we know, because first and
foremost like to be to be a songwriter, you gotta
be you gotta be a selfless a little bit and
you have to like know that you don't get to
sign right, And.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 14 (01:26:19):
If you need the money, yeah, I will take the
money if you But now your niggas don't want to
give us our money, Like now y'all don't want.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
To do this.

Speaker 14 (01:26:26):
That's when it started getting like, all right, I'll go
drop my music, my fan base, my merch create my brand,
my business because as a songwriter it's hard to create
a business because you're so under the shattle. But now
like you see me, you know, you know it's easy
to like, you know, create your own business. But I

(01:26:46):
knew it when I knew it. When I thought I knew,
I knew it was over. When I'm not gonna say
the artists man, but not even a big artist. And
I gave him a banger and I asked for a
point and a and R was like, we don't do points.
You never done points. I'm like, your artist is new.
I did this, and you mean to tell me you

(01:27:07):
don't want to be on the right side of history
with giving me a point, like be on the right
side of history. You know what I'm saying, be on
the right side of history. So, and like I think
people don't want to be on the right side of history.
I think it's like a it's a weird It's a
weird time for like A and rs because the A
and rs really don't give a fuck because they want
to just protect their job, you know what I'm saying.

(01:27:28):
You know, like it was a time where like our
A and rs actually cared about the writers and the producers,
the engineers. You want to like feed them, but like
everybody want to keep their job, you know what I'm saying,
They gonna do whatever they can to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Plead all right, So those A and rs are bad?
Have you ran into in your songwriting time? The A
and rs that try to take public.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
They deserve it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
No, So here's in some cases, yes, But there's been
times that I've seen producers I've been working with, the
songwriters I've been working with that they'll do something and
if they're doing something for someone on a major I'll
talk with their A and R and their A and R.
Once I get the split back of all right, they
get one percent of pub on this ship when they
should be getting five at minimum.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
It's going to the fucking aar I'm talking about. You
have a salary you not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Even Yeah, Rory, I've seen that.

Speaker 13 (01:28:15):
I see like you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
Deserve this at all. Your job is being paid over
here for what you're doing.

Speaker 13 (01:28:20):
You're so right, you so right.

Speaker 14 (01:28:21):
But I ain't gonna hold you. I use that to
my to my benefit, because it's like to make them
do their job. I give you two point five, I
give you five percent. I'm not stingy like I do that.
I get my homies pub I get my homies pub
on songs.

Speaker 25 (01:28:36):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
Yeah, engineers deserve more pub than A and R's.

Speaker 14 (01:28:38):
Like, get my engineer's pub like like like all my
like what a renaissance, don toliver like my engineers get
publishing on all that shit because I want him to
get a pub dude, I want him to make money,
you know. So yeah, but I done definitely don't gree
some A and R poems with.

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
You got to so so with the next project, Johnny,
because like I said, songs for women is one of
my personal all time favorites. The next project sonically content,
how how different is it or how much in the
same kind of texture is it?

Speaker 13 (01:29:17):
Like you said when you saw me, you were like a.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Song.

Speaker 14 (01:29:21):
Women was your soundtrack to your to your life. And
my album is called Soundtracks to get Her Back. So
you don't even know what you just did there. Oh
you don't even know, like you And that's why I
did it. I want this shit to be a soundtrack
for all of us that that love R and B
and that have had heartbreak and they actually want to
feel something. So the sonics are different, though it's not

(01:29:42):
as I think like songs. Women was like to me,
like marry j Blige, what's the for one?

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
One happened?

Speaker 13 (01:29:52):
It had that nanny tone. It was that nanny's tone.

Speaker 14 (01:29:55):
This is more like two thousands, like two thousands in today,
but but it's still got a little naughties.

Speaker 13 (01:30:04):
But it's not as nineties as What's the full one one?
What's the Full One? Was like, yeah, Women, it was
like super Night.

Speaker 14 (01:30:10):
Yeah, but but the but the but the subject is
like really getting my losing my girl and getting her back.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
So who did you have in mind?

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Specifically during songs to get her back losing my girl.
Do you have to wait for the extra Deluxe to
find out if it actually happened.

Speaker 13 (01:30:33):
So that's what the stage play is about.

Speaker 14 (01:30:35):
So I created the whole stage play and it sold
out in l A my first night, and it's a
Where'd you do it?

Speaker 11 (01:30:41):
That?

Speaker 14 (01:30:41):
I did it at the Porto Theater and so literally
I had amazing playwriter Bret uncle William.

Speaker 13 (01:30:46):
She she does the Shy with lean Away. She's one
of the writers.

Speaker 14 (01:30:50):
And literally, it's all about the story is about this,
like the album. So the John's so cold, like somebody
get killed in them mother, it's cold.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
You thought about doing it like on a on like
a like a short film for it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
We shot it.

Speaker 14 (01:31:04):
So we shot it and we're working on taking it.
We actually got it on a network. But I don't
want to say what it's cool you're gonna see it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
I'm waiting. I want to see it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
I'm invested in Jossy.

Speaker 9 (01:31:13):
I want to I'm looking forward to anything you got
going because the way you be talking, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Like, she talking that ship.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
I gotta be a part of it. I gotta be
a part of it.

Speaker 24 (01:31:23):
I love it.

Speaker 14 (01:31:23):
I love that y'all of like, I'm seeing a lot
of men really loving R and B like this, And
it was a time I used to think like niggas didn't.

Speaker 13 (01:31:31):
It was it was weird how they made me think
that R and B was just for girls or like
what for this and for that?

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
But like I mean, even some of like the lo
fi toxic R and B now I think it's just
for women. I don't even think it's for us, like
we like traditional R and B.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Shit is what they like. I'm a R and B
head for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:31:49):
You don't like lofi.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
I do love lo fi, but too much of it
and too much of the toxic ship.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Like I do want to hear men sing about loving
women like I don't always want to be upset at
my girl, like.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I do like some positivity in sometimes sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Yeah, I love it that. That's so good to know,
but good to know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
My last nerve question, did you have an opportunity to
work with Stacey Barth and what is it like working
with I think one of the most underrated voices shut
off to stay songwriters like Stacey to me is one
of them.

Speaker 14 (01:32:24):
Yeah, she did one of my favorite songs on love
album Closer, to god, Stacey, I did a banger for Stacey.
I'm so mad she ain't cut it right there she was, Yeah,
but Stacey's amazing Stacey. Stacey to me, she's not She's

(01:32:44):
a She's a spirit. She's like a particle. Yeah, She's
like how I look at like blal and I look
at Erica bad that particles Like it's just like she
can just.

Speaker 13 (01:32:58):
So I don't, man, I love Stacey.

Speaker 14 (01:33:00):
Yeh.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
She called Stacy's one of them.

Speaker 13 (01:33:02):
Yeah, she wanted them.

Speaker 14 (01:33:03):
It's hard to write for her too, because she doesn't
she doesn't when she sings, it's like she flows. So
it's like you gotta just let her freestyle and then
if she wants to give you a few lyrics, if
you want to throw a few lyrics, but you just.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Got her go.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
She's like, she's like, you know, we definitely got to
get jobs. Whenever you're in New York, you want to
come by the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Studio, yes, please please do.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
I'm like I said, I'm invested in johnsy Fully.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
I love everything you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
I'll support everything that you're doing and can't wait to
see and listen to what you got next for us.
If you don't pull up this page for and stop
putting this loud about me with the girls because I'm
over trying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
For my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
I thought you got him back.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
No, that's jo my side, bitch is my man. Don't
love me no more? That's I have the teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
When did you When did you turn?

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
Was working?

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
When did you turn?

Speaker 5 (01:34:00):
I was working?

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Actually I was working at def jam when you put
that record out, damn for I have the promo shirt
still in my crew that has that whole shit written out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
So we are here joined by somebody that I think
is the epitome of when the Internet says, oh one
hit wonder shit this, and that Creatives, no matter what
situation you put them in, will always conquer, will always
find a way. And I think Trinidad James is a
perfect example of that coming off, you know, I mean

(01:34:29):
all gold, everything was was what it was. But I
have been more impressed by everything you have done since
you as a creative, whether it be on some pun
and shit on CNN or in the fashion world shit
when we connected, we was at at the Gucci store,
some shit, at an event. Like everything you've been doing
outside of when you popped off, I think it's been incredible.

Speaker 22 (01:34:52):
Thank you man, truly truly appreciate it. It's been a journey.
This is actually year thirteen for me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
Wow, man, thirty years years bro, you know, and it
feels like three. Yeah, and it was really really fast.

Speaker 22 (01:35:06):
And you learn a lot about self, You learn a
lot about life in this fantasy world of entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Fantasy world of entertainment like this. I come from real life.
I come from real life, you know.

Speaker 22 (01:35:19):
So I never lost tap of real life, but I
come in and jump into fantasy too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
A little bit.

Speaker 9 (01:35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Yeah, I remember, like even when you know you first
popped with all good everything, I remember everyone telling me like, yeah,
he does a music thing, but he was so prominent
in Atlanta with fast stores and fashion and everything. Like, now,
this is not just somebody that caught a lick. What's
the back history of what you were doing in Atlanta
before all go everything that hit.

Speaker 22 (01:35:46):
So I was a stylist, street dude, trapping a little bit.
I ran one of the most popping boutiques in the city.
That's how I got to meet all the DJs and
the artists because they came to shop with me, and
I never talked about their music. I kind of just
put my CD inside of their shopping bag because I
just don't believe.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I'm not a handout type of person. I'm a bootstrap
type of person.

Speaker 22 (01:36:05):
That's why my dad raised me, and that's how I
kind of just built Like when they started realizing like, oh,
that's my guy from the store, it built a different
respect because it's like I earned it. And but that's
what I was doing when I was dressing people. I've
always been My task and duty is to make sure
that our culture stay shining. And that's just by showing

(01:36:26):
us that you can express yourself, you know, come as
you are, but make sure that it's intention in your presence,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
And that's what it's always been.

Speaker 22 (01:36:34):
Man Like you saw me through my visual, you know,
and my visual is what made people show somebody's like
you see this niggag, this nigga, you know, it's like
and that's because it's like it brought life into what
we needed. Sometimes you don't know what we need, but
God gave me the energy and I guess the presence
to be that of like, oh, look at the artists

(01:36:56):
that we get now after twenty twelve to now thirteen
years later, of like just new type of R and
B where they don't have to show their face no more.
They don't got to be pretty. They don't hear what
I'm saying, Like, you could be who you are and
let your talent be the star. Right, It's pretty dope, man.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
What some of your earliest memories growing up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Of BT?

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
Like, what were some of the shows that you was
tapped in with?

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Like is that none of us grew up and you
couldn't go in our homes and not see BT on television?

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
But what were some of your earliest memories of BT?

Speaker 21 (01:37:30):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:37:30):
I mean, the biggest moment is the first time I'm
laying in the bed with a girl that I spent
the night with. She was a dancer. Shout out to her. Okay,
I wake up in her bed. I think it was
my first time being with a dancing Okay, with a
dancer in that capacity, and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Of course cuddling.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Of course, of course you know we don't, right, right,
who does that?

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
I'm all right, nobody from Trinida whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Do throw that thing away? And she wakes me up?
Like you on TV?

Speaker 22 (01:38:08):
And I'm on BT jams and they're playing it like
back to back to back and I was like, oh man,
because I grew up looking at bet jams and so
you know, that was like the first little piece of
all Right. No, I think it's something that's changing in
my life and it's all for the better because people
are happy for me, people who don't know me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
She didn't know me, right, you know what I'm saying.
But when I came in that shop club, it felt
like she did right and we spent the night together,
so we did. We don't cut it exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
You gotta cut it all night, and you gotta cut all.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Yeah, obviously, you know we have people like you know,
rest in peace to Virgil. Currently with Salahi and everything
that he's doing.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
What what is brand.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Partnerships with fashion missing right now with the actual creatives
and designers currently in twenty twenty five, because I feel
like we catch a going like with SALAYI, what he's
doing is amazing, but there's so much disconnect between.

Speaker 22 (01:39:02):
There's only so many spots until more people make brands
that are successful. The brands that are successful could only
pick so many black people to do it. It's not
like it's a black brand. People just want black support,
but it's a white brand if it's owned by white person,
it's a white brand, and then that's real. That's fine,
that's only fine. Like if a white person owns it,
that was made for his people, how whatever. But if

(01:39:23):
other people support, we have beat the matrix because now
I get black money and white money. But a white
person could always get white money. A black person can't
always get white money, you know what I'm saying. And
so I said that to say, has more brands come
to life or whatever, you'll be able to see more
people of culture and get a chance to add to
the repertoire. But if you're expecting Nike to catch every

(01:39:43):
Trinidad James type of cultural person to do something, you're
gonna be pissed, how whatever, because.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
There's only so many times they can.

Speaker 22 (01:39:50):
There's only so many spots they have a lotted for
people of color or people of culture, the ones that
matter in the culture, and they could be a black person,
white person or whatever. Like sometimes they just miss the ball,
you know, but when they get it right, we'd be happy.
You know, when Joe Freshca is getting a chance, that's yeah,
that's that's dope, man. That's over delivering for New Balance,

(01:40:10):
like going absolutely Jordan's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
They look like Chicago is on fire. I can again consistently,
you know.

Speaker 22 (01:40:20):
So, I'm a perspective person, man, and I'm the super realist.
People only doing what they can, how whatever. Just because
somebody is worth it, that don't mean that do you
have to do it?

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Who are some of your favorite black designers and favorite
black brands right now on the fashion I enjoy.

Speaker 22 (01:40:41):
R g B there from Atlanta. I like another young
brand called Lemons on Fire. They're from Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Lemons on Fire. Yeah, Lemons on Fire. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:40:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:40:56):
I just opened the store too. I was like, I
want to carry out in my store. Got closed the
store in Atlanta. Black designers sue us do I love?
We said Joe already. I'm biased to Joe. Really good
shoe designer, so like slaves my god. Oh Nina Chanell,
Nina Chanelle. If you don't know Nina Chanelle, do your homework.

(01:41:17):
Ninochonelle is amazing. She got her own Jordan three. I
own Jordan two. She's an amazing painter. She did the
uh the cover from Meek Mills album Expensive Paint I
think or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
She's a beast. Chanel for sure. Oh yeah, that's I'm
gonna stop there, Okay, stop my head.

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
I didn't I didn't notice when.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Now you know, we obviously first got into Trinidad James's music,
but you are very Your tasting sneakers is very unique.
Like I've caught a lot of your clips online and
I'm like, damn, I wouldn't think that Trinidad was that
tapped in when it came.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
To the sneaker coaches.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
What's your absolute favorite sneaker of all time?

Speaker 22 (01:41:58):
I don't never have an absolute favorite, guys. I just
have a story with these shoes. Man, I've spent twenty
years doing shoes. But Jordan two's the original white rid
of my favorite Jordan period. I'm a white Air Force
patent leave the Air Force one guy when they come
in to crazy Colors.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
The Brazils, the Portugal.

Speaker 22 (01:42:20):
Whatever, nigga, go air Force one low patent color signed
me the hell up undefeated. But also I love the
ratchet stuff Soldiery Box, you know fifty four elevens.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
You know Feli's like just support people's stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:42:39):
My collaboration with Soccony Sconi where you're from, you know, like, bro,
that's the first show I ever got as an immigrant
from my parents and been smoking. Shout out to that
brother over there, my boy Jay Tips.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 22 (01:42:51):
So you know it's not always about you know, big
brands only have so much space. Every brand only has
so much space to let in our cold. It's about
more people, like new brands like Hokah and Solomon and
on Cloud and all these new brands is coming. You
just got to see more of those, and then you'll
see more people that you think like, oh damn, she

(01:43:12):
deserves a shot. He deserves a shot. Why this person
don't have a shoe yet? Need more shoe companies?

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Before we let you go, I know you're going to
be biased, but I still want to ask this question
between Jamaica, Trinidad and Guyana, who makes the best curry chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Trinidad? And I was going to be biased regardless. I
be looking at my shirt.

Speaker 6 (01:43:41):
This is a red shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
A red shirt, bro.

Speaker 12 (01:43:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:43:47):
But when we got our independence as a country in Trinidad,
the first workforce that was was that came to Trinidad
was Indians from India.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Yes, so they brought the recipes with him.

Speaker 22 (01:43:59):
So we have mad Indians in triny So you can't
make curry chicken better than Indians. We have more Indians
in the other islands, right, Oh, so Jamaica and Jamaica's
curry is going to be a spicy one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Guyana. They're really good cooks. There are some of my
favorite chefs.

Speaker 5 (01:44:13):
Heavy Indian population, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
But I just I think that trainy I think because
of our Indian population.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
I think y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Y'all are the perfect middle between Jamaican curry and Guyanese
like it's the perfect.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
Mix trinidatte though, by the way, I.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
Mean bias on the guy in the east side, but
I do think they have perfected both of those.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Why are you biased on the guy on the east side.
It's got to be a girl.

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
It's definitely what do you think it was?

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
These women? Man, they got us, many got us.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
I love my homies, char.

Speaker 8 (01:44:49):
Woman.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
It's a tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Jim Jonson, I love kool aid. I went to Georgetown University.
That was so many on tendras. I should be a
rapper anyway, Yes, yes, yes, I will say you guys
have the best carnival and it's probably not even close.

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
Top of the top carnival yet top that is if
we do it? Is that even like debatable at this point.
I mean people from Brazil might have something to say
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
But in the West Indies, like Bristol has more people.
So if you have more people, you have more power. Period.
Yeah you got it. But Indian, if you're not Brazil,
we are number one half created this steel pan.

Speaker 22 (01:45:25):
Yeah, like that's the last hand instrument that's got developed
and the main created the last than the twentieth century exact.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
Yeah, I'm Trinidad Carnival, big vibes Massa.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
I know you spent so much time in New York.
How much did you really tap in with the West
Indian culture in.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
On and off? Like am I am? My artist?

Speaker 14 (01:45:46):
Time?

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
I spent way more time when I was young, Bro,
I didn't have no Green card. I wasn't tapped in
to having fun. You don't know me. I'm right now,
Yeah I was.

Speaker 22 (01:46:00):
I'm saying so, like, as a young person, and when
you grow up in a Trinity household, you don't have
to go out there looking for more validation from other
Caribbeans because my household was Caribbean and I was really
born in it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
You know, my father's born in Tobago. My mother's born
in Trinidad.

Speaker 9 (01:46:12):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:46:13):
When we came to this country, went to Jacksonville, Florida.
Then we got down the hard times. We came to Queens,
New York and we lived with my uncle. That's more trainees.
So I'm in little Trinidad inside of my uncle's house
who passed away.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Rest Uncle Eddie, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
So.

Speaker 22 (01:46:26):
But now as an entertainer, you know, being able to
be front, like last year I hosted the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
Caribbean the Music Awards. I got presented an award. They
hit me up to do that. It's like I took
pride in that.

Speaker 22 (01:46:36):
You know, I showed up looking like it because it
is a big deal to be Trinidad James. You know
the things that I go through that are not good,
but make it through and still have good energy to
give to other people and still do things of power.
That shows the resilience of a Triney. It shows what
type of character Trinidad is a built with. So I'm
just thankful to be Trinidad did and be born then, bro, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
That's a beautiful way to absolutely slew to that God.

Speaker 4 (01:47:01):
Trinidad James, pleasure me and you pleasure sitting there to
watch twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Both that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:47:07):
Man, all right, bro, we back BT watch twenty twenty five,
sitting with some of our favorites. So this guy here,
this is the family, this trend of family, this is family.
Never since of the word we with. I got a
legendary hit maker hit. How you feeling, family?

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
I feel good. I gave y'all some relief of the
phony kicking in. Bro, thank you. I looked at it.
I'm like, oh, yes, we can really just kicking it
after talking about artists with me? Man with you.

Speaker 26 (01:47:35):
Hell, my name is Toyana all the way from Montego Beach.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
I mean Montico Bay. Okay, she got that total vibe hit.
I said, what you're doing?

Speaker 12 (01:47:42):
That's that?

Speaker 11 (01:47:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:47:45):
Yeah, I see it. Okay, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Jamaican, New York, Long Island, New York.

Speaker 6 (01:47:53):
Let me say a little louder, you know what I mean,
let's up with.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
This Long Island thing?

Speaker 27 (01:47:56):
Like what we've been doing interviews and people been like, yo,
do y'all not sit her Long Island.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
New York.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
It's not New York City's New York situation.

Speaker 9 (01:48:04):
Absolutely thirty years definitely, but it's not it's one black
from Queens.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
How you feeling, man, amazing?

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
Listen, Yeah, I know Bush, we don't want to talk
about it, but he just showed me a clip.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
What you got going on? What you're doing? Bro, I'm
just he Raj asked me a question and you broke.
Y'all know I got no filter. Bro, You don't know.
Y'all have been knowing me for over ten years. You
know I don't give up. I'm gonna tell the truth. Listen,
I don't. I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
If the puff ship never hit or this would be nothing,
that wouldn't shock me at all that he said that. No,
let's say none of this puff shit is in court,
I'd be like, yeah, he probably said that absolutely listening.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
See what you're doing now, you know you're freaky ass nigga.

Speaker 27 (01:48:49):
Now y'all now y'all on my own on my truth,
and now y'all want to judge my truth?

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
No, but I think you were raging. He put me
in an intimate headlocked one time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Bro, Bro, I was.

Speaker 9 (01:49:10):
You and ray J looked like y'all might be on
your y'all y'all look like y'all need your own show man.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
I think really what I thought after that, I was
like the burg and rag like y'allers, that's musty TV.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Yeah, we got so many stories and just so much y.

Speaker 26 (01:49:24):
Bro.

Speaker 27 (01:49:25):
The nigga, the nigga is so crazy. We were in Atlanta.
He took Whitney Houston a compound or Whitney Houston. Bro, listen,
Bro were in there and we in the s u V.
Whitney so gangster with me and Ray J was performing
sexy kind of act the compound. Randomly, she's so gangster.
She sent the security. They came and got a like

(01:49:45):
the Magnum Patron silver. Whitney was drinking Patron out the
gallon magnet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Bro in the truck with us. You can't make this ship.

Speaker 5 (01:49:53):
You cannot make something like that up. How is there
no footage of Whitney Houston at the compounds?

Speaker 27 (01:49:57):
Bro, I think it's a picture, man, Dray Sinatra. I
think he got a picture of this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Man, You need that picture if you got its compound
even still over No, no, no, no confound. That's been
close for some years now, but hit make listen. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
We don't use the word legends with everybody. You were
obviously a legend in every sense, of the word.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Thanks bro, How was it?

Speaker 14 (01:50:15):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
You got your new artist with you? What's coming man?
Because we always know you in the studio hit gonna
be working?

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
Well?

Speaker 27 (01:50:19):
You know, I got partnerships with six different artists right now,
Toy and Ron or two of them teak, of course
it's one of them. We got a new record we
heard it's about to drop with Bryce and Tilla videos
and the can done already, so that's gonna be exciting.
And then Ivory Scott is another one of my artists,
dreamed All. I just did a partnership with two and
this record that she's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
About to drop. I'm gonna be honest, dream Dolls, I'll
rapping all these rap women right.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
Now, rapping for real.

Speaker 12 (01:50:43):
And I was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
I was impressed.

Speaker 5 (01:50:45):
We brought that up like two or three episodes ago,
just because we were talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
The Tory Lane ship, which I want to talk about.
But I was like, y'all remember like dream Like are different?

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Yeah like that girl, yeah Beijing all in her legs
that was bugged out.

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Everyone needs to revisit that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
This record.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
That's making the top ten disc record this era, like
she went nuts.

Speaker 27 (01:51:08):
I'm excited here and look I got a curveball pause.
Angela Simmons aka Angela Renee. She got something that she's
doing is not rapping or singing, but it's something very interesting.
She could probably tell y'all more. But we got a
record with Jada. It's about the drop. I got a
partnership with her as well.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Love it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
Well, look at the shit he just be throwing you,
Angela Simmons, Jady got a record with Jada.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
This is about the drop. Don't worry about this coming soon.

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
How did this connection happen?

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
Man? You know when I was at Atlantic yall.

Speaker 27 (01:51:35):
Y'all remember I was working Atlantic and working at the Empire,
and like, after I sold a portion of my catalog,
I was just like, man, I want to invest in,
like really build my own thing because I've had an
opportunity to break other artists with my sound and with
my vibe. Y'all know, I was doing the flips and
everybody kind of came and like got on that type
of time. So like right now, the really importance to
me as a producer is to break these artists with

(01:51:56):
my own sound, with what we're doing, what we're creating
in the studio twenty four to seven, So it's a
new journey.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Outside of just being a producer on the exec side.
While you're making these records, what are you keeping in mind?
Because you you've broken a lot of artists, You've revamped
a lot of legends careers.

Speaker 5 (01:52:14):
What is in your mind when you're actually making these records?

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
What would or do?

Speaker 8 (01:52:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:52:21):
Because I know you lying.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
Constantly when I play something like you know I love it,
but you ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Like since we want to talk about bullshit? Why did
Rory do that with hit Boy? Oh? Let's talking about
why did Rory do that?

Speaker 5 (01:52:35):
I'm glad we we we definitely, uh sort of had
a reconciliation.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
I think Clemens put us on for sure. So here's
here's the thing which I did apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
I'm like, Rory's my friend. Why would you do this?

Speaker 5 (01:52:47):
Okay, I went about something wrong. I will miss I
will always admit when I'm wrong. I can't remember none
of this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
I'll break it down in a very quick way. So
I was in with hit Boy in Baisley. Okay, he
played me his him at Alchemist's Project and on one
of the records he was doing like his control version
of producers He's saying everyone's name and certain stuff. He
said it was all in good fun. It was not
like no b shit. So I called Berg. Thought I

(01:53:14):
was doing the right thing because this is my man's
is his family. I was like, yo, hip boy has
this joint, like are you cool? And here's the thing.
Here's where I fucked up. I left out a part
that in my mind didn't matter that much until he
broke it down to me and I realized I was wrong.
He brought up a certain situation that happened in Burg's
past in that in the jab. I can see why

(01:53:35):
Berg was mad that I posted it. I thought it
was in good I was like with him, told him
what it was. But then when you explained the shit
to me later, like though, he's talking about an event
that's not funny to me, I was like, you're right,
I did fuck up in that regard. I thought it
was good fun and didn't take into consideration that specific
part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
So, yeah, I was I was wrong. We love everybody,
we love hit boy.

Speaker 27 (01:53:56):
He's not on the radio and I'm on the radio
twenty four to seven, and that's just what the reality
of things is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Sea Burg. Yeah, we just got to a good space.

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
Here was my thing too, Like it was off the
the heels of you doing the hot ninety seven shit right,
And I.

Speaker 27 (01:54:10):
Wasn't saying nothing wrong. I just said, I make radio records.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
He's a legend. I love him.

Speaker 12 (01:54:14):
Boy.

Speaker 27 (01:54:14):
We've talked before, We've talked about collabbing all the other stuff.
I said, My forte is radio records.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
That's what I do.

Speaker 27 (01:54:21):
Niggas in Paris, he got legendary records. Ain't nobody taking
nothing from him.

Speaker 5 (01:54:25):
But you over here, he's doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
And he took it and went and ran left with it.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 26 (01:54:30):
We do that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
We do that often, man Like it's all just like
we ego. Miscommunication sometimes just happens. And but I mean
obviously like y'all are both legends in every aspect of
the word hit maker, hit boy.

Speaker 5 (01:54:42):
I mean, shit, do my album either one of you niggas, please.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
No worry, gotta do it. I would love to do
my album. Let me just talk. I don't even think
he's your friend because he hasn't done your album yet.
Like this, given this, nigga, he critical are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
We've done where I'm rapping, I wrap on our pod.
Now push a T shirt. I try to get more
to wrap all the time, but.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
I ain't wrap.

Speaker 27 (01:55:05):
Let me towards the bed, reaching a soup box mall
and pull that Rockefeller chain out and get in the booth.

Speaker 13 (01:55:11):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:55:12):
And like I know some of all's history. He wouldn't
be lying in his rhyms like no, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
Statute, let me take you all that. Let's talk about
my teago bit.

Speaker 9 (01:55:25):
Yeah, what we got we can what can we expect
to hear something from toy In because the look is immaculate.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
I'm seeing it. I'm seeing it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
But I'm going to hear what you got for us?

Speaker 9 (01:55:32):
Thank you?

Speaker 26 (01:55:33):
I mean you can look out for my new single, Freak,
coming out this month. Yeah, it's really something special. I
feel like we figured out we've been in the studio
locked in, and we kind of figured out how to
kind of fuse.

Speaker 18 (01:55:46):
Together R and B and dance hall.

Speaker 26 (01:55:48):
You know a little bit of what it does and
you know my culture, and I feel like it really
hasn't been done this way before and I'm really excited
for people to hear it. I feel like there's a
whole new lane that we've created. And Yeah, I'm really
excited about what you were.

Speaker 9 (01:56:02):
Hit, so I know the music is gonna be in
proud Yeah, how how do you feel now that that
vibes is out and he's free?

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
Is the energy different?

Speaker 16 (01:56:10):
I mean, I'm really.

Speaker 15 (01:56:11):
Happy that he's out.

Speaker 26 (01:56:12):
I actually did a song with him called Ice Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Right.

Speaker 26 (01:56:17):
It was like he was literally in prison at the
time when he did this song. And he's a legend
in this and I'm so happy. I'm so happy that
you got I mean, the energy of dance hall has
really it's been uplifted since he's been out.

Speaker 13 (01:56:30):
And happy for him.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
Yeah, I'll be mad jerk chicken and right if he
came home.

Speaker 26 (01:56:35):
Yeah, I remember, I'm so I'm so happy that he's out,
and I'm hoping to have another another.

Speaker 6 (01:56:41):
Song with him I happen.

Speaker 27 (01:56:43):
Yeah, the remix of his Freak record and if y'all
know me Freak, of course it's one of It's a good,
good sample on.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
There, good old school freak. Yeah. Oh you flipped that, Yeah,
but my way you'll see, Okay, that's one of them already.
I want to hear that already.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Are we getting a Eddie Murphy party all the time?
Flipped for the Long Island.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Bro, you gotta flip that. That'll be incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:57:11):
That he doesn't have joint.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
James wrote, yeah, he definitely did. Yeah, so you gotta
make that head.

Speaker 5 (01:57:20):
Listen you went to If anybody gets chopping to make it,
make your sound, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
This man right here, Yo, this gotto incredible.

Speaker 27 (01:57:28):
Like these all new partnerships a year, I think I've
known both of them in the year Ron has He
won a Grammy with Chris Brown on the eleven eleven album.
He wrote the record and then man, what else publishing deal, label, deal,
Grammy and he wrote three or.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Fours right now? Whatever the songwriter with me?

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
Sorry, love boy, Moving Bird found a writer.

Speaker 9 (01:57:49):
You're gonna keep the Avengers together, man, Bird gonna always
do it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
Even when he lose one to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Cut that. I want to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
Well, thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
I look forward to to new music everything you got
going on. I'm happy that we could reconcile. I'm sure
if our aunt Clemens Facetim got it there, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Feel like I feel good, man. I know what some ship.
Whenever Bird called me like, yo, what's something?

Speaker 16 (01:58:19):
What's so with Rory?

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
But I'm like, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
I know what's going on.

Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
Come on, I'm glad that we was able to get
everything to a better place. You know, I respect because
we're family.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
We go through ups and downs, and that you sometimes
have to respect bars when you're arguing with somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:58:34):
After I posted that I was at the airport and
him and I got on the phone.

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
I don't know who's text on the phone when he said,
oh I see I see that you got the cloud
you could use.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
You gotta talk, bro.

Speaker 27 (01:58:49):
We've known each other for so long since I had
a skinny thing Shaine and I was playing all my
jail mind tied dot insign.

Speaker 9 (01:58:56):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
We did escape the room together, and you with this
nigga escaping his wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
BT Awards twenty twenty four, Man, I apologize, Man, my god.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
All right, Bro, we're back BT Awards twenty twenty five.
And listen, we are sitting here with Fight Royalty facts.
This is the undisputed women's heavyweight champion role. This is
no games being played here at all. Everybody getting they asked,
July twenty sixth, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:59:30):
Everybody that shows up to the fighting man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
Around.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
We are with Cloressa Shills, Flint, Michigan. How are you
feeling so good to meet you. Big fan, big fight fan,
but I'm a big fan of yours as well.

Speaker 16 (01:59:43):
Thank you so much. I feel really good.

Speaker 21 (01:59:45):
You know, I'm here because I'm I'm mad at for
the Sportsman of the Year for the BT Wars.

Speaker 16 (01:59:50):
It's my first time.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Yes, I want every other I feel like I feel
like the war.

Speaker 21 (01:59:55):
I feel something about I really, I really have no idea.
It's so many great women who are nominated. Yeah, but hey,
I guess we have to wait, you see, for tomorrow.
But I'm really just happy just to be here now too.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Some time off.

Speaker 4 (02:00:08):
I'm guessing from your from your training schedule to be
here at the BET Awards somewhat.

Speaker 15 (02:00:13):
I worked out this morning, Okay, I'll leave.

Speaker 5 (02:00:16):
Here, Okay, Oh two days, yeah, shorty, don't stand a chance.

Speaker 9 (02:00:20):
Jul twenty sixth, Clarista working out, coming to the media room,
and then going back to work out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:27):
We were talking to a lot of artists in the
media room today about how important it is to not
only be an artist, but you also have to know
how to promote your music. Is it the same way
in the fight world of not only do you have
to be an amazing athlete, you have to be an
amazing promoter. Is that something that's on the top of
your mind as much as working out is.

Speaker 21 (02:00:45):
It's not my mind as much as working out is,
but I know that it's very important. And I think
that it's not just about promoting the fight, but promoting
your brand. So my brand is greatest woman of all
time to quote, right, And so with that, it's like,
I have to give you the quote of everything.

Speaker 15 (02:00:58):
I have to come here.

Speaker 21 (02:00:59):
I have to look really good, Like this morning, I
had on a beater, I had on some shorts, I
was running, I'm sweaty, I had my braiding, and then
I show up here.

Speaker 15 (02:01:09):
And I'm looking like a model type stuff.

Speaker 16 (02:01:11):
So you have to know how to balance it out.
But for me, it's like.

Speaker 21 (02:01:16):
I have to promote all that, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm promoting the fight, I'm promoting myself. I'm promoting
my brand. And your brand will outlive your career anyway.
That's just the truth about it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:28):
Yeah, what is some of the things Coloristian Shields is
doing away from the fight game, Like, obviously you've dominated
women's boxing. We all know the legend that you are
on that field, but What are some of the things
that Closes Shield is doing that most people have no
idea about.

Speaker 21 (02:01:41):
I think that they have no idea that I have
one hundred and seventy five thousand subscribers on YouTube.

Speaker 16 (02:01:46):
They have no idea. But I make money off YouTube.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
I'm streaming.

Speaker 5 (02:01:52):
I pray a lot, Okay.

Speaker 15 (02:01:54):
I love karaoke.

Speaker 3 (02:01:55):
Okay, And first of all, what's your go to karaoke?
To carry Return of the Back and Last Train to
Georgia is my those are my two go to night?

Speaker 13 (02:02:04):
Yes, Jesus Christ, I.

Speaker 16 (02:02:08):
Didn't expect that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
I'm sorry. Training Georgia, Yeah, that's my.

Speaker 5 (02:02:11):
Go to what's your go to karaoke?

Speaker 15 (02:02:12):
Listen?

Speaker 16 (02:02:13):
Tina Turner, what's love got to do with it?

Speaker 5 (02:02:15):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (02:02:16):
Hey listening? As soon as you get to the karaoke spot,
I'm like, hey, you know what?

Speaker 5 (02:02:21):
You know who just entered the spot?

Speaker 11 (02:02:24):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
So we have to BT Awards twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
Growing up in Flint.

Speaker 5 (02:02:28):
What was some of the shows that Clarissa was watching
on BT?

Speaker 11 (02:02:31):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (02:02:31):
My god, I grew up watching one O six in Park.

Speaker 4 (02:02:33):
Okay, mister one O six by While Jermain I Pree
will be performing at the BT, Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:02:39):
That's what's up.

Speaker 21 (02:02:42):
I watched the BT Awards. Yeah, I'm freaking watched Nickelodeon.
I watched a lot of stuff on BT. I can't
even It's so many things that don't really exist.

Speaker 5 (02:02:53):
No work with the rapt City's gone, I mean the
one on six revent.

Speaker 21 (02:02:58):
It was so much stuff that I watched from But
definitely I remember, like all the award shows, the Grammys,
you know what I'm saying, Like I watched all.

Speaker 15 (02:03:06):
That stuff growing up.

Speaker 3 (02:03:08):
Can you speak to the state of Michigan and what
it means to professional boxing?

Speaker 5 (02:03:12):
Yeah, because it's Michigan is known.

Speaker 16 (02:03:15):
Yeah, for the Michigan is a fight you know.

Speaker 21 (02:03:19):
And I have said that Flint is shaped like a glove,
so it's definitely shaped like Flint.

Speaker 16 (02:03:24):
Is definitely a fight town.

Speaker 21 (02:03:28):
I think that it takes the right fighters to bring
fight fans together inside of Michigan.

Speaker 15 (02:03:34):
So before me, it was Tommy Hearns. I think Tony
Harrison had.

Speaker 21 (02:03:38):
Some things he was doing, you know, Joe Lewis is
from there, Segret Robinson, he had some great fighters.

Speaker 15 (02:03:45):
But I'm the first female from Detroit to actually.

Speaker 21 (02:03:47):
Bring the eyes that I've brought absolutely, and I mean well,
I'm from Flynn, but to bring it to Detroit, and
I feel like it's just a huge fight town. If
I fight in Flint, Detroit, or any of the surrounding areas,
the fight go crazy, you know. So it's definitely a
fight town. And we have some of the best fighters
in the world that come out of Michigan.

Speaker 5 (02:04:05):
So July twenty six, you all fighting in Detroit.

Speaker 15 (02:04:08):
Yeah, at Lucy's Arena nine crag Rick Ross.

Speaker 5 (02:04:11):
Is walking me out, I know, I know it's gonna
be sold out.

Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
Is it gonna be an original record or is he
doing one of the regular Ross records?

Speaker 5 (02:04:19):
Is he something scratch on the walk out? Is he
gonna be rapping?

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (02:04:23):
What do you mean from scratch?

Speaker 5 (02:04:24):
Is it a new song?

Speaker 21 (02:04:25):
No, it's not a new song. No, no, No, It's
gonna be a few different ones. I'm gonna mix him
up up in the collago.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
I love that.

Speaker 21 (02:04:32):
I don't even know which song because it takes a
certain song to get me ready for a fight.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
Listen, I know, I mean with with the Detroit BMF connection, like,
I feel like I feel like has to be the one.

Speaker 16 (02:04:43):
Are you very smart?

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
You gotta do that right?

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
A low Caesars, like you have to do. You got
to at least start with BMF. But I love the
idea of doing a metal leave a bunch of different
ross records.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
Yeah yeah, so so fighting at home in Detroit. Obviously,
everybody's anticipating what you're gonna do. July twenty sixth. We
all have you winning by knockout? Yeah, how are you
preparing yourself mentally just to go out there in front
of the hometown and perform and put on the show.

Speaker 15 (02:05:08):
Honestly, I just trained my heart, like I work out
very very hard.

Speaker 16 (02:05:12):
I like to be focused. I block out a whole
lot of noise.

Speaker 21 (02:05:14):
Like it may look like I entertain noise, But honestly,
if I do something for a second on social media,
like once I cut it off, I don't really think
about it no more Like I'm not sitting on social
media for hours going back and forth with people reading
the comments, like I really just own it.

Speaker 16 (02:05:32):
If I see something, I'm like whoa whoop, and then
I get off.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 21 (02:05:35):
But I'm leaning more of leaning more towards the positive
side and just outside of the ring, and I'm working.
I'm working on so many different things like I am
so close to getting that twenty million and thirty million
dollar deal, you know, endorsement that I really can't give
my energy to a bad thing like I give like
the good things and to my fighting, you know, and
knowing that everybody up in Detroit and Flint and in

(02:05:57):
Michigan and just around the world who support me. It's
looking forward to me fight. I want to perform like
it's okay, okay.

Speaker 15 (02:06:04):
I fight like a guy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
Sure, I take it. Yeah, but it's like.

Speaker 5 (02:06:10):
That takes work absolutely.

Speaker 21 (02:06:12):
You know, anybody can get beat, So for me, it's
like I don't ever want to get beat. I want
to beat everybody. And to knock these girls out takes
a lot because they come in they don't really have
what I have, so they want to take what I have.
So I just kind of put my energy toward that
and making sure that I'm mentally well because it's hard
to be mentally well in the world that we live in.

Speaker 13 (02:06:31):
So I fought with depression before.

Speaker 21 (02:06:33):
And anxiety and all that stuff. So I've been able
to conquer those things. But you can't conquer it if you're.

Speaker 13 (02:06:39):
Focused on negativity.

Speaker 21 (02:06:40):
You have to focus on our positive things and countra
blessings like I have a lot to be happy about,
more than I have to be to be upset about.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
Now, what are you doing as far as like for
the young girls that want to come up in the
fight game, Like are you mentioning any girls? Do you
do work like directly one on one? You have any
organizations directed towards young girls and fight?

Speaker 15 (02:06:58):
So my father want to see.

Speaker 21 (02:07:00):
Three is Shields Community Irish Corporation and I trained over
two thousand and three thousand kids in Flynt, Michigan.

Speaker 15 (02:07:05):
And I use that corporation to do like big Christmas.

Speaker 21 (02:07:07):
Giveaways, Thanksgiving giving ways, hats and coach giveaways, Easter giveaways,
Easter egg hunt bikes I wasn't able to do. I've
kind of been on palls for this year because I'm
getting everything that I need to get in my life together.
But as far as in every year before now, I
have done that every year and that's more of what

(02:07:28):
I do. So I am going to get back more
into training kids. And I don't just train girls. I
train the boys too. So my little niece, she's five
years old, she boxes. My nephew, Bradford is eleven. He
boxes my little nephew Gemini.

Speaker 16 (02:07:42):
He's eight.

Speaker 15 (02:07:43):
He not to fight too, but he won't do gymnastics,
so whatever, that's a combo.

Speaker 5 (02:07:49):
So I could do gymnastics. It's the most dangerous.

Speaker 15 (02:07:53):
He talked about he taught himself how to do a backflip.

Speaker 21 (02:07:55):
So this dude is pretty special, you know, and how
to ride a bike Gymni is very very special.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:08:02):
I like training kids.

Speaker 15 (02:08:03):
So I was training kids from the ages of.

Speaker 16 (02:08:05):
Eight till sixteen.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:08:08):
Before we let you go, I have mixed feelings on
the YouTube celebrity boxing thing, the exhibition fights.

Speaker 5 (02:08:16):
How do you feel about that entire thing?

Speaker 3 (02:08:18):
I think it does bring a lot of money and
attention to boxing in a time when it's been odd
of what's being promoted and what's not.

Speaker 5 (02:08:25):
So I think it does some good. But it's also
amateur fighters.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
That are probably getting more money than professional fighters at
the current moment. How have you felt about that? And
my last follow up question, Jake Paul round one, you
think you knock them out?

Speaker 21 (02:08:39):
Okay, so you say first your first question, Listen, it
is boxer's job to build their brands. Yeah, and that's
something that I actually learned from Jake Paul, like, I
didn't learn about their brand. But I'm like, at to
ask myself, how did the dude come out of YouTube
and start boxing and make all this money?

Speaker 5 (02:08:56):
Incredible businessman.

Speaker 15 (02:08:57):
I got seventeen year old titles.

Speaker 16 (02:08:59):
I won the Olympics not once, but twice twice.

Speaker 21 (02:09:02):
I got seventeen year old titles, five different divisions undisputed
four different times.

Speaker 15 (02:09:06):
So I'm like, how is he making millions of dollars
and I'm making only a meal?

Speaker 16 (02:09:10):
So I had to see.

Speaker 21 (02:09:12):
You know, I'm I'm very very smart, and I'm and
I'm a and I'm an observer, so I'm observing. I'm like, yo,
he built his brand off of YouTube with one million subscribers,
and then he just came to boxing and said, hey,
all all my fans from YouTube, comes support me in
boxing because boxing is all about putting asses.

Speaker 16 (02:09:28):
And cease to be honest with you, how to make
our money. So to see that he did that and he's.

Speaker 21 (02:09:33):
Really good at promo, and I said, that's all I'm missing.
So I added that to my joint. And that's why
you see me now with the one point four million followers,
I don't be trying to get in the beef on
social media.

Speaker 15 (02:09:44):
Behave it comes, it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (02:09:48):
Boxing promo is yeah, beef.

Speaker 21 (02:09:51):
Listen, all press is good press. What they say is
how you spent it, and you know so that's just
what I've learned. So I don't think it's a bad thing.
I think that he's teaching boxing. The bill Drop brand
is very important. Some people don't want to build their brand.
They like they just want to fight me. I want
to fight, I want to win. I want to have
my brand, and I won't make men outside the ring.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
Also, yeah, I mean the Paul brothers, even when we
give them flack, I do appreciate that they have taken
like the sports seriously. Like I think they're both great
amateur fighters, but they're great fighters.

Speaker 15 (02:10:21):
Listen. I don't have nothing against Jake Paul, but he's
smoking dope.

Speaker 16 (02:10:25):
If you think you be me in a fight, that
it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:10:30):
I don't take it all this last around, and I
don't think you ever doing one of those uh invisible
contracts where we decide it's gonna go eight.

Speaker 5 (02:10:39):
If he if he first of all, no knockout.

Speaker 21 (02:10:42):
First of all, Pat Poots will never allow me to
get inside the ring. With the man to actually fight them.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
Have Pat beating Jake bowl in the first round. Bruh,
I'm telling you I've seen.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
That anyway, got.

Speaker 16 (02:10:55):
Like he got he got, he got one like me,
he criticize.

Speaker 4 (02:10:59):
Listen, I'm there for the Jake plorician shields, just just
a face off. I don't really see y'all getting ring,
but I would love to see y'all just go back.

Speaker 16 (02:11:06):
He gottaspire me a some wing.

Speaker 21 (02:11:10):
Talk like you can't really do something with the quoat
and it's like, listen, my man, Yeah, where you got
that from?

Speaker 16 (02:11:15):
But something ain't clicking, like one and two.

Speaker 21 (02:11:17):
He's skipping the number like like one, like one five,
like it's one two.

Speaker 9 (02:11:23):
Three money right right right, Well, I'm gonna ahead of
congratulations on the BT win.

Speaker 4 (02:11:27):
I think it's yours. I think you haven't wrapped up,
so I'm ahead. I'm gonna go ahead congratulations one.

Speaker 21 (02:11:33):
So listen, I would be like the most shocked ever
if I win. I think you got it tomorrow for
the sports money year, I swear of got. I would
probably I wouldn't know what together like what Yeah, I'd
be very speechiless, but I know that I'm deserving and
all the girls who are all the great women that's
not made it. I know I am the most I'm

(02:11:53):
the most successful and the most achieved, so I would
love to see that.

Speaker 4 (02:11:57):
I think it's yours. I think I think, I think
you got to wrap up twenty six. We will be
tuned in Racey. You do what you do Detroit Little
Caesars Arena, and it's a pleasure meeting you and good
luck the rest of the way.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Shells BT Awards twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
BT Awards twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (02:12:14):
Rory, we are back, Yes, and we are sitting with
someone who they probably thought we would sit down and chopping.

Speaker 2 (02:12:21):
With us something. This would have been a very but
they don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:12:24):
It's interaction and yeah everything okay rap. This is rappers,
all loves, old love and hip hop. We are with
Ray Vaughan.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
How you feeling, brother like TD and his vis Listen, man, listen.
I think that me and you would ever sit down
at shop.

Speaker 9 (02:12:37):
I wonder even if we did sit down, we're gonna
run into each other the mother ship and it don't
even matter for hip hop?

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
Do It's fun? Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (02:12:45):
So?

Speaker 5 (02:12:46):
Where were you at the first time you sent a tweet?
Out about more.

Speaker 3 (02:12:51):
You give me that process of that first molt, like
when we when you propped up because we was on
we was on defense.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
That turned the offense.

Speaker 3 (02:12:58):
Yeah, Like I was sitting like we've been supporting Ray Molla.

Speaker 5 (02:13:02):
For god knows hell. No no no, no, no, no, no,
no no, And then I felt like I took.

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
It a little shi is Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
First nigga to say yo that Nigga l A Leacas
is one of the best ones ever.

Speaker 5 (02:13:13):
On the bean ship was crazy to that that's cool.
It's you said you. I didn't know that because I
don't like a song. He don't funk with me.

Speaker 9 (02:13:24):
It wasn't that, it's how niggas say it. Okay, how
do you how do you view how he said it?
I feel like how nigga say it's slighted. It's like
nigga saying to get the clicks instead of it being like,
oh no, that ain't me it is it is it
is my team. No, I don't they be trying to
get me to say ship be like that's one person
I know that don't do.

Speaker 2 (02:13:42):
That job to be like nah, I don't do that,
I'm not for click. What about the drink? What about
the drake blazing, what about it? That ain't for the clicks?

Speaker 5 (02:13:52):
Na, okay, No, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (02:13:55):
I'm gonna say a nigga, I'm gonna say drink is talented.
I'm not gonna kill ind I do. I didn't like
that do one song?

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
You did?

Speaker 11 (02:14:03):
Not?

Speaker 9 (02:14:04):
They killing me now because they said about mister Morale
and he's like, Yo, this shit is incredible.

Speaker 5 (02:14:09):
The contract was incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
I said over that. But because I said I didn't like,
not like us because I'm not Jack and Cole, I'm not.
I'm not, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (02:14:17):
I'm not opposed to nigga be like, I don't like this.
So it was that's not only here, that only here's
the current. They never they forgot about what I said
about Kendrick before the battle.

Speaker 2 (02:14:25):
But once the battle happened. It's the same with academics.
But that's my nigga. I got a round with my
If we've played ball right now, you're gonna root for
the other, You're.

Speaker 5 (02:14:32):
Gonna root with your marrit.

Speaker 3 (02:14:33):
In fact, that's always been my issue where where the
narrative has gotten lost with everything that Mal has been saying,
because Ma has been big enough Kendrick since I met her,
So when this happened, obviously U t d e us
coast and no matter what happens with Kendrick, you should.
So why when it comes on this side, that's his
man's for but it's allowed, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:14:51):
My man's for real, and that's what I respect. That
what I'm saying when out, So.

Speaker 5 (02:14:55):
That's not clay.

Speaker 3 (02:14:56):
You supporting your actual friend is not glazing to me.
That's why I like that blazing. I think that ship
is weird. Also, I think that word is lazy. Using
that word is lazy. Lay something else, Yeah, you can
use something else.

Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
Alright.

Speaker 5 (02:15:07):
Cool, you're supporting your man.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Just like you were supporting that. I'm supporting Drake.

Speaker 16 (02:15:12):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
Right around. I'm gonna let niggas have it right. What
I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (02:15:18):
The only thing I feel like it's the Internet clicks
is all right, That's what's gonna get niggas talking and me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
I'm like, all right, let's go viral.

Speaker 5 (02:15:25):
Okay, let's go viral.

Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
I am still up and.

Speaker 9 (02:15:28):
Coming artists, but I'm also like one of them, and
I know that a lot of rap niggas can't fuck
with me period.

Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
Like we're talking rap rap niggas can't fuck with me.

Speaker 9 (02:15:38):
So I'm gonna be like, all right, show if a
niggas jump out the face, I'm any back phase. Anybody
who feel like they're gonna talk crazy, I'm gonna talk great.
We can keep it hip hop or not. But for me,
I'm not saying I'm believing. I'm not talking about you're
talking about general, like in general, like we'll give you
ay or not in this space of like hip hop
is like okay, everybody gonna get Yeah, that's where IVN

(02:15:58):
we come from, where it's like all right, So I'm
gon shoot at everybody who feel like they got something
to say right period.

Speaker 4 (02:16:03):
But the moment that we got from that with you know,
with Joey Badass and you and codcast and Reason, we
were talking with everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
This week just done this. Uh not include daylight.

Speaker 27 (02:16:13):
Oh no, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (02:16:14):
I'm not assuming that light. I just think that light
disappeared after everything happened.

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 14 (02:16:21):
You?

Speaker 9 (02:16:21):
Outside, Reason, outside, Cadcast outside, We ain't seen light yet.
We yet, but like always been for a week that
was teammates. We've been teammates for like I know that
nigga se battle Rapp. We loved, we loved it like
that nigga Light feel like he did what he had
to do. That was his mission and that's that way.
The way he closed it out, I felt like Light.

(02:16:41):
That was good, you know, because then y'all get to
be like, yeah, he washed, he.

Speaker 2 (02:16:48):
He shot that nigga. That nigga.

Speaker 5 (02:16:50):
Man, I do still feel like Joey washed?

Speaker 2 (02:16:53):
On?

Speaker 14 (02:16:53):
What on?

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
What on?

Speaker 11 (02:16:54):
What on?

Speaker 2 (02:16:54):
What degree?

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
Just what if you're getting jumped and you hit at
least three people putting down, you would.

Speaker 2 (02:17:00):
That's when I sit on the internet. This is what
I said.

Speaker 9 (02:17:01):
I said, this is why I'm missing right now because
it's like twenty niggas attacking one nigga. I don't give
a fuck if that niggas still standing. When you niggas
walk away, he gonna always look like the winner. And
I'm not I'm not oblivious to that fact to be like,
damn all right in that battle, he's gonna look like
that because nigga, he's still shooting, just records, he's dropping

(02:17:24):
his fire. And I'm not a hater. My favorite one
is Finals Crash Dummy. I love the hook and the beat.
I don't know about the verses. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
But as far as like rap I made that Nigga
rap again.

Speaker 3 (02:17:36):
See, I'm not mad at you, even if he would disagree,
I'm not mad at that take. I feel like you
should feel that way. And I know you don't listen
to our show outside of the clips.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
I do listen to you, I said I did.

Speaker 9 (02:17:45):
That's why I was like, I'll be going I'm very
very analytical and I'm going to like diving in. So
when I again, like I just told you off camera,
if I respond just because I actually feel a way,
I'm not gonna respond to niggas. I'd be like, I
don't give a fuck. And it's not like y'all little niggas,
you know what I'm saying. So I'll be like, all right,
say what the same way niggas gonna say what they
gotta say. I'm just not a podcast niggas, so I'm
not gonna say it in a conversation. It's gonna tweet

(02:18:07):
and niggas who don't know me, they're gonna take it
as like oh when it's like if you meet me
in person, I'll be like I said the same ship
I said, but you probably won't take it as this
and I'm a funny ass nigga, So I'm a crack
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:18:20):
That's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:18:21):
Yeah, And I mean we we had said, based off
with Mall saying with daylight kind of being quiet after
the entire thing, we confident it. I thought you putting
out that live performance in the midst of that entire
thing on YouTube was the perfect move. Like we went
back and forth of who's the real winners this and that?
Did Joey wash them up? Yeah, that's that's for fun
and that's rap talk. But the way you've capitalized off
putting on the ship on God has been put my

(02:18:44):
stocks up. That's what it's supposed to do. And so
I founded that this one. I'm saying healthy rap.

Speaker 9 (02:18:48):
It's healthy rap. A lot of niggas on the internet
beyond because I feel like this is.

Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
What it is.

Speaker 9 (02:18:53):
Niggas hate Drake so much or niggas hate not so much.
It's gonna be a clear division. I'm tde a bone.
So the niggas who don't like us, they gonna get
under the comments talking ship even if it's not Drake
is Joey. So they're gonna team Joey. Niggas who don't
like everything but TV. Yeah, that's what it's gonna be.

(02:19:13):
So I'm not mad at that. Where it comes down
to like understanding how this changes the trajectory of my
career though, I'm very understanding. That's why I want combat
with niggas. That's and for the most part, we have
most media's talking about rap.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
Now who nigga?

Speaker 8 (02:19:29):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Who text message? We got more money? Who got the
biggest shame? We had niggas talking about rap.

Speaker 5 (02:19:34):
Who Daylight really is?

Speaker 2 (02:19:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:19:37):
Yeah, so real.

Speaker 2 (02:19:38):
Even if you don't like the records, you like these
niggas rapping and.

Speaker 5 (02:19:41):
Hearing about the people that know about Light.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
That was our first thing before Joey dropped finally clip
me and Maw was like, I don't know, Joey, want
that problem.

Speaker 2 (02:19:48):
Bro, nigga. When I heard my town you got, I
want to phone with niggas.

Speaker 9 (02:19:55):
Hey, this nigga drop nigg fucker. Man, I'm in the
hotel called Looks and this nigga called Luck. I didn't
even listen to this song. I'm just hot and I'm like,
all right, all right, this nigga got Lucks. I'm gonna
go get Snoop Dogg. I got look at somebody like
crazy out the man?

Speaker 5 (02:20:15):
What made you want to flip back down?

Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
Fifty my favorite New York artists? Really? Yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 9 (02:20:23):
Don't feel like there's nobody from New York better than fifty. Okay,
Artist Street, Like, I know you're saying from me, fifty
my favorite New York artists, And I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:20:31):
Like, if I get him, I gotta get him. I
gotta get him on some ship that's like fifty and
back down.

Speaker 9 (02:20:35):
It's like I'm the underdog. Niggas keep forgetting that that
nigga Joey is a vat period. I'm not the nigga
that's gonna take we rapping. So I'm a disrespect and
I'm a disrespectful motherfucker, especially when I used to battle rap.
I'm talking about dead people. I'm going to me, there's
no limit. You can say whatever you want to say
to me. If gage in battle, if it's like we
ain't engaged, then it's like it might be taking this disrespect.

(02:20:58):
But we engaged in battle. I'm putting myself on platform
for a motherfucker to say whatever the fuck they're gonna say.

Speaker 5 (02:21:04):
And I look like a bitch.

Speaker 9 (02:21:05):
If I might, I want to kill this nigga because
he mentioned my you know what I'm saying, So to me,
I'm like, it's wrap, so don't take nothing off the table.
Dandie angles on the table, Streekross on the table, baby,
or you're on the table. It was on the girl
on the table. Everything is on the table when it
comes down to wrap battles. For me, I'm gonna be disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
Afterwards.

Speaker 9 (02:21:26):
We could shake hands like nothing, you know what I'm saying,
So to me, it's just all right, help me, help small.

Speaker 3 (02:21:31):
And you know, we were talking about it every day
for that week on the podcast, but now we're speaking
to somebody that was in that battle. Yeah, we could
only speculate how people were deciding on who to reply
to and who not to reply to.

Speaker 5 (02:21:43):
Cause I love that everyone got in the mix, everyone
started wrapping. I like that idea.

Speaker 3 (02:21:45):
I feel like it made it money. It got money
towards the end. But like anything in this era, like
once something starts to pop, everyone's gonna follow.

Speaker 5 (02:21:53):
So how did you decide on who I'm replying to
and who I'm not replying?

Speaker 9 (02:21:56):
Because the understanding the mission of like who the fuck
I'm talking to?

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
Who am I mad at? I'm mad at, but like
who am I who?

Speaker 9 (02:22:01):
My real issue is so like when it came, when
it started, I'm like, he's catching a stray immediately, like
a this.

Speaker 2 (02:22:07):
Niggas bopping around. I'm getting on this nigga immediately.

Speaker 9 (02:22:11):
Because I'm like, he's an advocate over here. So it's
like Toy, niggas don't know me and Toy are Yeah,
you gee what I'm saying this nigga, Toy called me.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
We just laughed.

Speaker 9 (02:22:22):
Nigga laughed and talked on the phone for like an
hour and a half. The whole era has a Toy shot.
But you know, I want that nigga to get better,
you know what I'm saying, Like with all the ship.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
That he did be going through.

Speaker 9 (02:22:35):
It happened the day before I dropped, and I'm like, damn,
I gotta change these lines. That's distasteful. We'll have Toy
is really my friend. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:22:43):
So it's hip hop like we looking at it like,
oh all right, now if I go do that and.

Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
Jump out the face, I jump out the face on niggas,
they're gonna be like, damn, we're not friends because nigga,
I'm going through some real life shit and you think
it's funny to.

Speaker 2 (02:22:56):
Rap about it's not a bar. Yeah, it's not a bar, nigga.

Speaker 4 (02:22:58):
That's not I think what you did was, first of all,
y'all showed that a lot of the next wave up
y'all can still push the.

Speaker 2 (02:23:04):
Pen in really ron then y'all can also just keep
it rapport.

Speaker 9 (02:23:07):
When we talk about niggas who killing niggas over wraps, Look,
how stupid you look?

Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
Right?

Speaker 9 (02:23:11):
My stock then went up. Right, I'm getting brand calls,
I'm getting other ship just for this niggas. You can
do that and make money.

Speaker 3 (02:23:18):
You're doing that with high level wraps because that has
not been profitable lately. Like the fact that you getting
those calls because you was rapping, Well, it's something that.

Speaker 9 (02:23:25):
Needs no gimmicks, ain't no funny shit like rewrapping. So,
like I said, for sport, nigga, I respect the funk
out of it. I'm gonna shoot at niggas who I
feel like, all right that nigg I gotta get him. Yeah,
I can't let him. I got to get him.

Speaker 3 (02:23:38):
Like.

Speaker 9 (02:23:39):
So it's even if niggas don't wrap. You got a platform, right,
you're gonna respond because you.

Speaker 4 (02:23:44):
Like who the is and I knew and we knew
what it was. I was like, all right, I gotta
get some of these balls. I can't wrap, so I
gotta talk like this is what I do. I talk
about platform. I just love the fact to see y'all
get out do at each other and then talking the
reason that CAI knowing that them behind the channels conversations happy. Yeah,
like him Mi COYB was communicating like yo, that's I

(02:24:05):
didn't talk. I didn't even hit ky. I just ran
into him and I'm like, all right, But then his.

Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
Energy was good.

Speaker 9 (02:24:11):
He's a good dudething and I'm like, Nigga, you the
only nigga that I felt like beyond Joey.

Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
I'm gonna shoot c J all day because I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
Like Fair taking my New York buys off Fair.

Speaker 6 (02:24:27):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:30):
All day.

Speaker 9 (02:24:32):
I get it, bro that nigga should have that nigga
said he was in the twenty v one after you responded,
that's actually funny.

Speaker 2 (02:24:40):
Get the fuck out the way. You're not taking back fades. Yeah,
I feel you. Before we let you go.

Speaker 3 (02:24:46):
Complex put out a list la rappers, la rappers, Well,
just as a rat fan for list, how.

Speaker 2 (02:24:53):
Did you feel?

Speaker 9 (02:24:53):
I don't care about nobody list. I don't care about
who felt like, who is who? They ain't put everybody
gonna have their own I don't care about that either.

Speaker 5 (02:24:59):
Yeah, it's to one hundred, though.

Speaker 9 (02:25:00):
I feel like it is what it is. Nigga's then
title to their own opinions. Me, I don't care niggas
gonna put me on the list wherever they want to
put me. That ain't what I feel, So it don't matter.

Speaker 2 (02:25:11):
So what's the next with Rayvaughon now? Post all of this? Now,
it's like I capitalize, capitalize on the momentum.

Speaker 9 (02:25:19):
I feel like popping out, even popping out over here
when niggas is like, I wouldn't even think he would
go sit down with them because they think they don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:25:25):
It's media hip hop.

Speaker 9 (02:25:27):
If you ain't down, or if you take shit personal,
you're gonna be broken forever. This ain't the space you
might walk past a nigga who didn't even know your face,
but you know your music. I don't mean you don't
fuck with you. You get what I'm saying. So I'm
like very very like I'm trying to be more in
the public. Eyere, niggas be like, oh I see that
nigga as far as tde that little nigga outside, and
so capitalizing on that with like singles that's about to

(02:25:49):
come out, singles on the project Good to Bat, the
Dollar Menu. I didn't focus on those singles. I just
made sure niggas understand the platform. However niggas receive it,
and receive it now. I was like, singles, all right
for a big artists. I've already done that. So it's like,
all right, now we're going to focus on putting the
singles out. So now I have a foundation for niggas
to come back to.

Speaker 4 (02:26:09):
But when next time you're in New York, you got
to come by the studio so we can do a
real proper sit down conversation talk about all the new
music you got coming out. It's a pleasure to meet
you here. It's away from the internet, away from the words.

Speaker 2 (02:26:21):
It's just rapp.

Speaker 4 (02:26:21):
It's just shit talking. I respect you, love everything you're doing.
And Rory and mar support Ravon.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
Yeah, my guy heard

Speaker 9 (02:26:30):
Eno