Checking In With Bag Fuel

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, Rory, we are back with another episode. Today.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
We are joined by some guys that we've been watching.
Really proud of the things that they're doing in the space.
Very entertaining and very funny. And I'm glad that we
finally have them here because it's conversations belong over. Yeah,
talking about having them all for a while.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Stop being so formal and get the wrong and start.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
We here with.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Bat and we got space here as well.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Right, where's my girl at the marriage? The marriage? Baby dB?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
You know she come in whatever she feels like, you know,
living now, I know she took she took off.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well you know they that's probably not you need.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
To come on a Monday or Thursday. That's really it.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, Wednesday, she don't be in there Wednesdays, she ain't
coming all type excuse to take back.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
She never only way she'll be here on a Wednesday.
If we have a guess if with somebody like she
like a Chris Brown, like Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We even her defense she missed bryceon teller and that
was a Wednesday and she wanted to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
But yeah, she's not personal then, I mean Space could
take Space got topics, he got you got topics. What
you want to talk about, Let's get to it, because
let's let's not Cardi B. And now what y'all put.
Let's talk about her not wanting to get a divorce.
I wanted to get a divorce. Y'all know more about
Cardi B than I do. Know nothing about that. Is

(01:42):
she in a relationship, and she's saying that off Set
in order to get the divorce for him to sign off.
She's saying allegedly that she wants he wants her to
pay his taxes. Yep, he wants her to give her
if you give him a property and something else he wants.
I just want to say, blessed equal rights and she
worked out perfectly. Hold On. He definitely talked to Mary J.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Blige, the only woman that's had to pay alimony and
would have to pay too, as she should. Though I agree,
and I'm that's not a Cardi B thing particular, but
how she got to wait hold On, I don't agree
with the alimony.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Nobody's saying nothing about Cardi.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Look Cardi, but I'm just trying to figure off off Set.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Allegedly is what Cardi B's come out and.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Set off Set wants the divorce. Cardi doesn't yes, because.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
She don't have to pay out because no all Set
wants it. But in order for him to sign off,
she's saying, he wants his taxes paid. Okay, he wants
a property and something else. It's something else, exact what
we get quote the only reason. So this is what
Cardy is saying. Y'all want to know.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
They see, the only way I can get out of
my marriage is if I pay for somebody else's taxes,
even though I pay for my own, and give them
one of my properties.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm a fight for that.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That is not no love ship. I'm not going to
stop living my life. I mean, that's just a divorce.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Though.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Don't you go split up assets and old money back
like that's just a divorce.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, yeah, so divorce has taked ten years.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
But I'm on the side of if I'm off set
and my ex wife is months pregnant when her new
dude already, I'm not, let's just get this shit over it,
like I want nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
No, no, no, no, no no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'm not like she's pregnant by someone. It's like, all right, cool,
Like I'm not even embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
You got it. You got a great NFL wide receiver
in pregnating your wife while you're legally married. Take all
the assets. That's what it was designed for. I don't know.
I don't want you saying nothing about Cardi B.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
No, no, no, no, says wild about Cardi B. As a man,
I don't think that I would even want to drag
down I'm not wrong, just like yo, let's just get
this over with, because it's just like I'm this is
obviously completely done.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I want the mansions, give me the mansions, giving it
got some He NodD.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
He probably is not doing this well, I'm not pocket watching,
but he's probably not doing.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It as well. Take but take more. This is what
it was designed for. Equal rights. It's true. If it
was if it was vice versas, we'd be like give
her house, yes, pay her little taxes and give us something.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
But but you know, it just looks away.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's like, as men, it's a lot of ship. We
just got to take on the chin. And just like business,
marriage is a business. It's a business. It's a business.
You don't have to be sperificant. He's trying to split
when he needs where he needs his money, and.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
She's going to get his ship a business breakup.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
If Offset has started off the marriage saying I want
to preen up, everybody would have dragged him and said,
it's about love. When you make it business, it's not
really about love. That's what they always say. Right now,
the tables are reversed tables. She got more money, she's
in a better position. Nobody dragged Rianna with your SA.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Feeder line, like, you know, be a man, don't take
a break.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I'm out, Yeah, but pregnant with another child, I think. Man,
I'm just like, man, I don't even like whatever we
got to do for me to never have to even
stand in front of this woman again.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But you have to go three kids.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I don't got to see her see my kids.
That's not party again to see his kids, you know that.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, no, no, the kids in the in the truck.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
The kids got sports and other activities.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't want to holiday.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
She's on, she's in, she's in the end zone. I'm
standing about a fifty yard line. She got to stand
over there about.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
The end zone. Okay, well I need a car to
drive to football practice.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah that I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, no, no, you can't do it. Can we right,
if we split up and she got more money than me,
I want to crib. Yeah, I don't know about paying
my taxes. I don't know about that. You know what
it is married, But I'm keeping it honest. Like like
you said, if we're married and we got properties, when

(06:09):
not naturally getting me a property anyway? Why would I
have to get a property from her? Or is he
saying he wants to extra property? Like what are we
talking about? He's trying to hit a home run? You
know that?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Like this is all him not and so point though,
like all if they have they had an LA one
in Atlanta one. I don't know these people business just
what they tell.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Us supposedly in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
If we're splitting all that, yeah, we need to bust
down which properties are going which. And on top of that,
it could not just be his personal taxes. They could
have property tax, they could have business together. His taxes
have not been paid, Like.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
This is that all of us? They don't have a
prenup pretty much now, I guess not. If we do,
we were to be talking about this, she wouldn't be
up there talking about he wants his taxicate that would
already be in the paperwork. But like, but like he said, Priya,
when they got married, he was the one that was
up right, Yeah, it was latest first album yet and

(07:08):
yes was up. Yes, they both was doing well for
you give them both up. Nobody, nobody on the.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Album Cardi is saying that she she's like making more
than him. She said, right now, I mean everybody right now.
I'm just saying, like, not since time came out. I'm
saying she put that in the bars, meaning she that's
like she known like I'm making more than them then.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
But when she I'm not even gonna go into that. Yeah,
when I go based upon things, I always go back
to the beginning and what was on. And we had
all set on the show one time and I asked him,
I said, how does it feel to be like, you know,
you really help spawn Cardi B to me, it's like

(07:53):
because the relationship with you or her was what took
it worldwide and the record and all that. He was like,
I ain't got nothing to do with that. You know
what I'm saying. That's what he said. He's like, she
was lit before you got together. You think so absolutely, she.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Has the greatest first rap album together.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yellow Yellow was out there were together after she was
in Europe when that yellow was fresh. She was in
Europe and they asked her about all set in Europe
and yes, and that's when it leaked and that yellow
blew up right after that. That's what I'm saying. They

(08:30):
were together, ready, nigga. But I'm not just keeping it
quiet together. He was fire. He was when they got
put together. That's what you do. But it was fair.
But let's not just say.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
There was also already putting out good music, Atlantic behind it,
her personality, everything she had had before on social media.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
It was a whole relationship with Amigo at the time.
Card he put out a dope album. Before that album,
no Street Records. People was not fucking with those records.
Can I curse up there? I'll be with it. I'd
be with the DJs and back then that's all I did.
And I'm gonna say this on camera. I used to
come to the DJs and be like, yo, y'all gonna

(09:15):
play CARDI B and niggas was laughing at me, and
they was like, and he knows that. I was like
and they would be like, this is what they were saying, Randy,
why you think we're gonna be playing Cardi B. She
can't wrap it, whatever I said, because nobody works harder
than her, and because she works so hard, all it
takes is to get one joint, and when she get
that one joint, she gonna kick the door down because

(09:36):
evidently she works harder. And people liked her personality from
television already, so I kind of saw that, you know
what I'm saying. But when the Botak thing, I'm telling y'all,
when the Botak thing was out, it was a good record.
I knew about it was gonna be popping. But like
he said, they got married right after that, and that
relationship is what took her worldwide. I'm telling y'all. People

(09:57):
wasn't thinking about her like that she was. She was
five hundred thousand followers and they was rocking with her.
But when that relationship change, because Migos was through the
rule at that time, and that and that really helped her.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm not saying it didn't help her with to what
you were also saying, her being a hard worker and
her being able to follow up a bout aging. There's
a million artists that have a boat Ak yellow and
not a motorsport after that, were not a classic first album.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
That happens all the time if people believe it on
Migos record. And then if we're talking right from the beginning, right,
some people are gonna burst. Right, So if I'm with y'all, right, say,
when Backfield first started, when we had to spend off,
if y'all could have said, Yo, we're gonna fuck with y'all, right,
you know what I mean, and we could have said

(10:42):
boom boom boom, Yo, were gonna bring y'all under the
umbrella and all that, y'all might have not thought that
we was gonna burst. But say we do go on
and burst, and we start doing extra numbers and were
making millions and millions dollars more than y'all. Right, I
still would, oh, y'all mm before I'm saying that that
beginning and that break and putting me on that plate. Now,

(11:05):
everybody don't think the way I know that. But that's
why I'm saying. If I'm CARDI B I'm yo, bro,
if I'm making all this money, yo, get a stupid nigga.
The house can pay this nigga is jump into taxes.
Give him this stupid ship. Why because I got a
baby by another football player that even if he's going
out the league, they still make eight million dollars, twelve

(11:26):
million dollars, you know the money. If I really want
to get this out the fucking way, let's just get
it out the way and let's just move more. Why
would I drag it out? That's how I'm thinking. If
I'm CARDI, because I'm in the drive and see and
if I really want this ship behind me, I'm putting
this ship behind me. It's a big That's how you think.
To me, That's how I think. If you got the

(11:46):
money and you want to take that, and you got
that too, let's just go and I'm gonna move on
and literally, just me, I want to think that way.
But I'm seeing too many dudes getting private investigators trying
to deal with divorces right now. The women play really
nasty because men want to be honorable because what Mare said,

(12:06):
that is not a manly thing to take money from
a woman from a divorce. But in order to fix
this ideology, an example has to be made for them
to say we need to chill right now. If af
Set got to be the first one to do it,
to lay the groundwork, so be it. But I understand
where Mall's coming from. I agree with because because there
was a time I'm getting a divorce, But there was

(12:29):
a time when I was with my wife. I took
a step back so she can make more more money.
And I was cool with that, and they had nothing
to do with me. But I do know that if
I divorced her at that time and she was still
making that much more, because she's probably making three or
four more time, You're right, I wouldn't have asked her
for nothing. I would have just spun off, because even

(12:55):
that's a difference. But I didn't look at it like
that when we first said it, because I because at
that time, I would have been like, but someone my
own thing. I'm gonna get back to doing what I
do and just get my bread. And that's how they
be like, yo, listen, whatever she needs, take it, you
got it. If they think a man going to be up,

(13:18):
they dragged the divorce out still say you married, just
like the coach on the heat when pat Rowley did
in the service and said we're gonna hold your contract,
and then when the divorce is final, you go. I mean,
but to the honorable thing.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Again, we don't know these people, but I can see
Cardi based on what she's told us, just one side
of the story. Yeah, Offset wasn't the most honorable person
in that relationship, which could lead somebody to be extremely
petty when it comes to a divorce. So, yeah, you
helped put me on, you helped launch my career, But
I didn't come for that. I came because I loved you,
and you just honored that.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Looking crazy if that's the case about being that right?
Well all said first got with her. People had issues
of saying like why would he be with Cardi B
She had a reputation, People said a lot of things
about her, and he overlooked those things as well, and
and and and and he went to a place where

(14:21):
not too many niggas would have gone with her, and
people was looking at him like, Yo, you're really gonna
marry her? Bro And he did it and did have
three kids D albums in her and her We got
to remember we always forget the beginning for some reason.

(14:43):
We always remember when niggas is in the top spot
and who got the leverage. This is a leverage game.
What were people saying about Cardi though? I'm gonna say,
I'm not gonna go into it. I'm I'm you can
look online and things and you every back. Bro, it's
a lot, Bro, you know what I'm saying. He said

(15:05):
things on his show with him and then twenty million hits.
That's been just wild for you. I went viral again.
I forgot about that. Every year year with that people
of a certain statue, especially where he was at that time.
People forget he was taking heat. Bro is all right?
So right, so let me can I reply to that?

(15:27):
What's up? All right?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
If you wife a alleged promiscuous woman, that's your progative.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
You can do that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Just because you agree to do that doesn't mean now
when I get in this relationship, I could fuck a
bunch of bitches.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
And embarrass you publicly. You made yeah, yeah, a couple
of off.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Listen, don't get in a relationship with a woman that
has the reputation.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Don't getting don't you're really a gentleman. That's that Niggas
think if I would. And I'm giving you a chance, bitch,
and you catch me a couple of times, you best
to turn your head because crazy Nobody was card after

(16:19):
this one after she became this CARDI b Yeah, I
think she became this ye, but I'm not talking about wife,
and I'm talking about making her your wife for real.
Ring well no ring ring, mother means a whole lot. Nigga.
That's a contract now, nigga, Right, but that don't mean

(16:39):
that don't mean she got to turn her head. Yes
she does, yeh turn your yo, b b ba has
a positive you can yeah right about except me.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Now, you gott appreciate me more because you think that
I'm crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Crazy because you hold up, you decide the woman with
the past.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You don't get to just sunk around on her bubbleicly
embarrass her, cheating that's not public, get other pictures pregnant?
You catching me chet You gotta turn your hand real quick.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
You you thought because she was I guess what they
say from.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Miss before we got together, which we don't know that
and she's not doing nothing wild way together but nothing
you tripping ya bugging Kanye West have the right to
cheat on kim KR Dawn show you with the sex
talking she was about to turn up. That was that

(17:48):
was her actually made a su that was her boy
that's today, that was her boyfriend. That was that was
at the bar were talking about this that come on,
come on, come on, but married, listen you record. Listen.
If you're a marriage, you fuck that.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I can't wife. You're gonna laugh better turn the top
tier mother, but listen.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
But not now.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
If you're married to her though like, and she's not.
She's not doing nothing. She's not stepping out all okay,
she's not stepping out on your marriage at all, and
you think that it's okay for the for the husband
and just she.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yes, y'all are I'm not gonna say. I'm not going
to say so you get to cheating because is you
for wife? And I got it? Get back talking about that?
To do anything?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Listen to this man ship that don't like, yeah, you
always got.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
That with moment and decision you ever made for the
rest of your life. Would my girl listen would be like,
how do niggas be around?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Let me not kill you on that. Man. It's awkward.
It's awkward. It is awkward.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
We cool and you are now dating like a girl
that I dated and are you walking?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Of course that's naturally it's awkward. We are not talking
about the girl girl. Have y'all having y'all having y'all
water in the conversation down a little bit a girl?
No where, were we discussing somebody who from the beginning,
who would have been known or said to be right, Okay,
somebody that mall might have had just fucked. Yeah, she

(19:44):
might have just been a girl. He just fucked me
liking no more, just yeah, she's a slubberdery. Were talking
about what somebody would allegedly say. So, even if we
don't know, I was not there, I can't confirm nothing
a woman than anybody that has done. But we know
that we know here things not about her, but about
other women and what it makes it, what it makes

(20:06):
it people think about them just hearing it. If it's
just multiple times, if that guy said that, damn you
heard it too. You heard it too where you heard
it from your man? The scouting report gets crazy? What's
up ahead?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
So what if offset had just heard rumors that were
never confirmed?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
She's CARDI B.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
People are gonna talk, people talk about people that we
don't even know about.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Fact. I don't even like there's a card situation. It's
just a regular convo.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Let's say I've been traveling the world, I fucked a
million different chicks. I cannot find love anywhere. I run
into somebody, we meet, we are compatible. I have never
had this feeling with somebody else. They feel like a
best friend. This feels like a future. But a bunch
of dudes I don't give a fuck about. Have heard
she did some ship. I'm sort of care about y'all?
Or should I go love the woman that I'm compatible with?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Through your scout report? You don't love him?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
You got game planning, game plan in order to win
the super do your joke.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's crazy age, but I'm saying at a certain age,
every chick is going to have a rumor about her.
You're right, turn five.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Years old and I don't want to date everybody want
to date somebody in their thirties, everybody.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
You can't have World Chamberlain numbers and think I'm going
to give you the same privilege I'm going to give
to somebody. Get But Rory gave great points. Sometimes the
personalities don't talk about. But you don't married. Yeah, I'm
not saying. I'm not conduling something. The most boring thing
like that ring. I'm saying, if he cheated along the way, boy,

(21:54):
they got married then she should turn But she did though,
and I'm cool, and that's why he ran out of
his chance. But just what I'm saying, I'm cool with that,
But that doesn't mean then I'm gonna just not get
the house. I'm not right, I'm not I.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Understand it, but I just think that, you know, as men,
we just had a disadvantage because there' certain things that
we just got to take on the chain and be.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Like, yeah, but why is it foul if if you
don't take it on the chair, like if off Sets
not taking it on the chain, and you know for
a fact, we be taking a lot of bullshit on
the chin that we shouldn't. Shouldn't we salute him for saying, yo,
you're standing up for doing something like like he just said, yo, bro,
I couldn't do it. But on some real ship he
said it was if it was a woman in that position,

(22:46):
we would be saying, girl, get your yo. Pay y'all.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, but we gotta I funk with off Set, but
we gotta just keep it real like said this, he
fucked with girls.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
She's cool with that friend. I mean, he can't get.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
A house, he can't come on hypothetically, your queen, she
you in your l a house. Are you paying the
property tax on the house? Because I'm no, So you're
on Cardi B side.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
There you go. I don't. I'm on a real nigga side.
But are you right?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I'm just saying, we got a recount a motherfucking dollar
in the house.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
You cheated on me. Come on, what about us? Just
sell the house and let's bust it down. There you go.
I'm sure. I'm always I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think I think that that's I think that's probably
but I think that's what not to bring but to
bring it back to Cardis. I think that's probably what
she's in the process of doing. Like you know what,
let's just sell the properties.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Like you know, they're going to split it down. Yeah,
I think that's why I want Cardi B to go
through all of this. No, yeah, I don't know. Just
a fucking factor of life. Nigga, nigga. I've been in
the house for a fucking year and six months sulking.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
But just listen, I love but we got to remember
he's the reason they're getting divorced.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Really, Cardi took some accountability, you know that, Yeah, took ad.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He said I heard card He say when when Takeoff
had passed away, she should have been a little more
sensitive and understanding to what he was going through as
a person and ship. And she said she was focused
on her fucking music that could push the nigga away.
And when niggas get pushed away, what do we do?
We go looking for confident other women. That's what we do,

(24:21):
women with the past, whether whether someone in the past
thatts are good for you. You gotta know how, you
got to know how to work.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Because it's being alleged that what's up off set slept
with alleged sweetie, which.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Is Kavo, alleged allegedly.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, y'are cool with that, like you cool with if heineke,
if he smashed you, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Not cool and I wouldn't do that. But like y'all said,
that's allegedly we do that. And if that, no nobody
ever confirmed. Nobody confirmed none of that, did they did anybody?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I didnt confirm anything on the Cardi side either, And
we're taking all that for a fact.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Car talking about the house and the car, We're talking alive,
just talking one thing.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
One thing I could I could, I could I could
I take from Cardios out.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
You know she's a liar either. I'm not going.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I agree ever, I'm just saying that one sentence you
wear her, whether it look good on her or don't.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
She takes it like it is with.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
That one sentence of hey, it's a property in taxes.
I think there's more to the story. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
She's not a liar. I'm just saying there's more. I
don't think there's ever been a point. I'm like, she's
capping we not. Yeah, she's unbelievably transparent.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So let's let's talk about Let's get to the music. Though,
Let's get to the album. The albums out. We had
to wait seven eight years.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
You love it? It's some truth. I'm not say love it.
This is what.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
This is what niggas do. He gets you to say
some ship. You know, I don't wait too for that,
you bet. I was going to say that date like,
we're not doing that. No, So I will say this.
I will say this album no, listen, I will say this.

(26:12):
I will say that it's a couple junctions on in like, man,
I don't think we had to wait seven eight years.
But I'm not mad because she put a lot of
the content and shit that she's going through in the
past seven eight years in the music, which I gotta respect,
Like I respect of putting it in the music versus
going on live, going to a US. If you're an artist,
put it in the music, let him get it like that.

(26:32):
So I respect that party. It's a couple of records
on it that I really fuck with, though.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I don't think it took seven eight years because all that.
I think it is just the part of the Fontaine thing.
I don't give enough credit to that. Well, well let's
not do that, be credit on everything we did that.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
And they're trying to say, oh, we're saying Cardi don't
write her ship and this then the third.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Year credited on like seventeen.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, no, no, no, listen, we aligned. I'm just saying, let's
not make it, let's not frame it like that.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
No, it's not about writing. We're talking about chemistry. That's
that's what I was gonna get. Like, whatever happened when
I guess she married off Set and them and then
partisan wasn't doing the same amount of creative work with her,
I don't know what happened, but you could kind of
tell in the music that people just have that vibe

(27:22):
with each other.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
So Party might be the messiest nigga the industry.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's my nigga.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
But you gotta understand he's been in He's been writing
for a lot of these female ces, which which means
he's prairie to certain information. He's in the studio having
conversation with these women. He knows about all of this
ship that's going on.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
But while you think he's so messy because he's telling
her write about the other the other stuff, come on.
But isn't Cardi B. Right? Maybe Cardi B wrote that part? Yeah,
the diary. I'm gonna say, I think that, man, do
you maybe maybe Cardi B wrote that part. You know
what I'm saying. We're gonna give her subject matter credit
on the album on the song. I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
If if he's having conversations in the studio and Cardi
said things about these other rap chicks, you gotta he's
sitting there like you.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Gotta understand that Cardi B is from the beginning with Party,
no for sure, so.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Before the music, I think that he's I think partisan
is severely underrated agree his pen even as an artist
like even it's on his own ship.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Never some people you know that, you know the inside
of the music business, if they don't deem you as
the one that was gonna go shine. And I said
this a long time ago. This was before we people
even knew about us. I said it wasn't gonna be
in the record label's best interest to make partisan Fontaine
big at that time because they didn't know she was

(28:55):
gonna marry off set and not use partisan fontanine. They
needed his pen if I let's slow he shot at
this nigga partisan Fontaine big, I'm not gonna get another
Cardi B album And she's the real meal ticket if
he goes and sells a million records. So what she's doing,
diamond and she's all over the world. We're making money
off of her when she don't even put records out.

(29:16):
So we need to slow this partisan Fonte thing. That's
what I think honestly hurt him because the record that
he had and chicks like this nigga, Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. If he throws nigga thought partisan Fontaine
party is nothing, but Broad's in there. So I'm like,
if all these broads like him, that means he has
an audience, they're not going to push his record, like
wherever he's really gonna go, Well.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
His strength is obviously his pen and I don't know,
and I don't know if he's because a lot of
these guys that you know are talented songwriters, a lot
of them really don't want to be stars. They don't
want to be famous. They rather be like, yo, listen,
I'm eating off for all of this music I'm writing,
all of these artists I'm working with, I go outside
and most of the time people have no idea who
I am.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, that's the Chico. Well I can't find those doccause
everybody I know one to get on the damn stage
and all that and want to be in front of
the camera all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And then well that's because people rather a lot of
a lot of people human nature, they want attention. But
when you're really talented and you really get in the
industry and you really see how this shit goes, you like,
I could avoid all this bullshit with being an artist
and just be a writer. Songwriter still make a ship
ton of money. I travel the world. I look better

(30:24):
than all these.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Other artists, like getting more because that's not all thinking. No, no, no,
it's that old thinking because that's how I thought, right.
But now when we have the singing songwriters told us like,
I'd rather be on the stage Todd dollars sound was like, no, nah,
I'd rather be on the stage. It's more lucrative for me.
And we have Bryson on it. He'said opposite that. I

(30:51):
like to hear that Bryson would say that because I
was like, I thought the money was in the publishing
real I didn't think everybody wanted to get on the
stage and have to track what Eric said. Eric Bellan
just said, yeah, you can be a rioter and get
the money coming in, but the perks that you get
being a visible face will allow you to keep things
coming in. Ego, I mean, is it we're in a

(31:13):
different time now.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Artist you want to be on No, absolutely, That's why
it's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing.
As an artist. You got to take that.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
And fuel that. To be a star, you gotta have
some type of ego. Think so, because I agree with that,
I'm gonna take I'm I'm gonna throw myself in the ring. Right,
Maybe it's my ego. I don't know. But when I
was a manager, I made good money and it was cool.
You know what I'm saying. I managed people, made money,
did things. But but he introduced me to this being

(31:46):
in front of his cameras different. The money I make
is different. But do you enjoy it because of the
money you make? Or do you enjoy it? I enjoyed.
What happened to me was I stepped in and started
to enjoy it. And then I was like, yo, yo,
I enjoyed this shit so much. Yo, we got to
figure out how I can make some money off of
this shit. Because I was like, I love this shit.

(32:08):
I was leaving, I was like, yo, it made me
feel good. But you're a shit talker. You enjoyed talking shit,
but I didn't. I didn't know, like bro, I was
talking to this nigga on the phone. I didn't know
nothing about pot. I don't watch content. Now that's why really,
when y'all was I came over here, I said, it's
just the sad because I don't even I don't know,
So I just enjoy being able to fucking just pick

(32:31):
people's brains. It came from being on a relationship show. Okay,
that helped me see that I was good, and then
they were kind of marveled at the fact that I
could come off the top of the dome. Like they
never showed me que cards, they never took the topics.
I really just I just want to tell you straight up,
this is how I feel. And they was calling me

(32:52):
like a natural. That was the joke. This Nigga's natural.
And then when we got on Math show, that was
the whole other type of thing. I know people wanted
music knowledge. Of course I didn't know that absolutely. So
when ghost when they was getting me drunk, and to
be honest, Ghosts would be the one that would be
messing with me from behind the camera. So that's where

(33:13):
all my biggest stuff would come from, would be me
going back and forth with Ghosts.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Really, but you never you never had a passion to
be in front of the camera.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Never, Okay, but I was when we had mech on here.
It was a couple of months ago. At the end
of the episode, we were talking about this this very
topic and why I think all of us who never
had a goal to be on camera, why we've been
successful in podcasting is because we were behind the scenes
and the only thing we ever wanted to have was
a perspective.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Lot of people that just want to get in front
of this lens. They don't know why, they don't know
what they want to say, they just want to be
in front of the camp.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
What comes to it.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
We have all been behind the scenes before this. Our
only goal was perspective. We need to have an opinion
to tell the people that are on camera what to do.
Now now we're on camera, and this is why we've succeeded.
This is why we can do long form content. And
the people that just want to be on camer ken
like they can't do that ship because they just want
to be on the lens. They don't know why, they
just want to be seen. That's all they want to do.

(34:06):
We have perspective and that's why this actually works now.
I think with people like Todd Allis on great writer
has perspective, also wants to be a star. That's the
perfect package. There's some artists that just want to be
a star and have no perspective. That's why the writers
you see Leon Thomas popping off now writer first, but
wanted to be an artist. Victoria Monet writer, artists element,

(34:28):
all these people that are now.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
The stars were actually writers first. That's why they popped.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
When they was thirty two years old, because they weren't
just trying to just be on camera. They want a
perspective and then also be a star. I'm with you
on the party ship. I think Party wanted both. I
think they pulled back when they realized the resource that
he was because if he pops off, he's not going
right over here?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Why not. That's a lot to do with Dream, Like
popped off but only put out two albums, and that's
into a dream I'm talking about. I'm saying Beyonce was
height when Dream put out those albums.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Listen, when you start writing for Beyonce, you can hang
everything else, like when be calling you consistently like y'all
need something, I can hang everything else up, but nothing.
It's like, bro, this is I'll do this. And I
saw something with Dream the other day and he was
saying how he likes doing when he's on on the road.
He rather do small shows, like he don't like doing
big shows. He rather do two hundred and two fifty

(35:26):
cap of people that really.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Know his shiita am I missing something? So Dream was
still sell out an arena right now. I don't think so,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I don't want to say I don't know about an arena.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Listen, man, if the Dream dreaming, I think he could
sell a garden out today. Do you think he could
do twenty the Garden if he's saying that, If he's
saying that, he's performing.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
His catalog dreams. Catalog is incredible if you give enough yourself.
But Dreams bringing people out like.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Hell yeah, wow the Garden and I love. But I
think that's a different thing. I think he's current right now,
he's younger, he's from New York. I just I just listen.
I love your listen. The drink is that with the Dream.
I just looked at the Dream as a songwriter producer.

(36:19):
Now when I say Dream had the two albums, I'm
thinking about his two key albums, the first one and
the second one. Now that's how I look at Dream.
If he put out something else after that, I looked
at him as a songwriter producer with Rock Nation doing
Next Level Ship. Like you said, he's dressing different. I
write for Beyonce. I'm yeah, I'm getting my residual from good.

(36:43):
That's I would look at him so for me saying that,
I'm like, then y'all think he could come off the
off the bench and just say, yo, I'm coming to.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
The I just think that The Dream's first two three
albums was so successful and so many people still reveal
those albums that if he said he was doing a
live show in New York City at the Garden, I'm
thinking it's enough people in the in the tristy a
way that will go to that.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Film going to that I'm going to that conference you are,
I just don't think that it's twenty thousand people. It's
about to try state.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
That's from Jersey, people from Connecticut like they coming to
see Dream.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I want to put on a Dream show that, yeah,
I'm saying is crazy, but it's really not. Though it is,
but it's really not, and it's wild. Bro by himself empty,
I was I wish just with Freddy, and Freddy said
the next time he wanted to look the Garden. That's
still like if Freddy Gibbs, Gibbs, if I still if

(37:39):
he like, I'm not going to Dream though. You know
what I'm saying not selling out the Guard, but I'm
not saying by itself, but with like him and a
couple of niggas.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, if it's some other people, it's what
we got with it. Absolutely, But I'm just saying the
dream is just to me. You don't first of all,
you don't know when he's going to do a show.
So his fan base, they hear that he's doing the show,
there might be inclined like, yo, we got to catch
him now because we don't know if he'll ever come back.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I need to go see a dream show right now. Yeah,
you got me curious right now.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I saw what he did in in uh sobs when
he was on.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
The That's what I'm looking at now, the last he had.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I'm talking about his production that he had in sobs,
like his stage production.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I was like, that's garden. I've never I've huh, that's
a pista of the garden. But that's my choice.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Though he literally said he would rather he would never
do the Garden, but he literally said he would rather
do two hundred and fifty cap because he would rather
have two hundred and fifty people in one room that
really love and know his ship to make it more intimately,
to know.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
How much dreams prices. I want to do a dream
show if he on that type of time. If you
talking about two hundred people, I want to get a
spot the whole five hundred people. Dream. Yeah, he got
that price and let me do the Dream show.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think I think that that's I think that that's
something just based off his catalog and then we don't
see him live a lot. I think that if he
was to announce a show in New York City at
the Garden tri State area, I think shows up and
sells it out.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Wow, for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I think he probably makes more money at like a
terminal five than he would money.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Money is definitely another conversation. I'm just talking about you say,
twenty thousand people at a Dream show.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I think that the dream Terminal five is where I
would put. Terminal five still would look retarded.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, you can do three nights. He would probably prefer that.
Like personally, he would prefer that. I don't think he
wants to. I don't think he wants to do that.
Areener shity, I don't think he wants that. He would
prefer terminal five.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Like that Dream let me fund that. You're me, but
I mean to get back on track.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
You think Dream would rather pull back and just be
the writer or the artist, right, I.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Think I think he wants to be the writer. Yeah. Yeah,
and then he became full artists and went back to writer.
It's easy. He probably wanted the dog. Yeah. I mean,
I guess, but Nel too. Neil was a writer first.
But Neil always wanted to be artists. I think the
Dreams too. He was in the group too. Sometimes.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Frank might have been the only one that I don't
think I said.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I'm gonna keep you said it right on the shows.
I can say. He was like when he saw YG
get that check, he was like, nah, I want to
be artists. He said, he wrote the song, Mustard produced
the song. Y g was gracious enough, he said to
put them on the show with him so they could
get paid. He said, why Jesus, out of his own words.
YG got nine thousand, gave Mustard four hundred, gave him

(40:37):
a four hundred, and he said, oh no, I'm become
an artist that right on the show. It was funny.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I forgot what platform it was Mustard was talking about
when he went from a DJ to a producer.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
They was in LA and he saw a check that
that tie had got and he said, now, fuck this
I'm being a producer.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
What I'm tying to tell you, that's what happens. And
I think that we discount money because I know you're
a purists and creativity and all that, but some people
just do it for the money. Like when I first
got into it, when I was managing, I was, I
was a party promoter. I DJ'ed, but I stopped dj
and I couldn't afford to buy the records and all that,

(41:18):
so I just stayed party promoting, hooked up with Clue,
hooked up with Ass. I was doing concerts and all
that type of stuff. Then I started managing. I started
managing the DJ's and I called a break, came home, Murder,
Inc Blase, Blog, Corey Rooney and all of that. But
after I got started swerving and made a nice amount
of money and started doing things, I was like, these
niggas is assholes. I gotta just make my money exactly.

(41:41):
I gotta take my emotion out of this shit, because
what the music was for me, it's not for them.
I wish I was in the studio with Tupac to
see if he really was loving the music, because these
niggas is fake right, chasing the check now it was.
It was I mean, bro, it was damned that ninety
percent of people. I had to get in line. I

(42:04):
had to start saying, yo, this is about the money.
Because doing great music and great songs are being great beats.
Everybody was like, yeah, that's cool, but you got to
be connected. I could get beats from anybody just like this.
I got thirteen niggas to do great beats and great
songs and all the rest of the stuff. So what's
gonna make me take your beat? And then you gotta
learn like you gotta help people make money. You gotta

(42:25):
be an asset to these people. And I'm like, all right, well,
once you do that, then they dickhead, they take long
to pay you and do all the rest of this stuff.
This shit ain't like it.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
That's industry shit. That's the part that you don't know
about until you get in there.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And you got in it, and they just started making
me say, well, I gotta adjust in order for me
to make my mark, I gotta get some brand. That's
what I gotta change my mindset. That was the goal
to me. But the like, how these people be so
much on the art. See, I'm so against it now
because That's how I was, and it blinds you mean,

(42:58):
you against the art, an't think the artist everything. That's
what I thought it was. I thought that the car.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
It used to be just all about the money used
to come with that.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
That's but that's what I'm saying. But even back then,
I always s I was a manager. The business was
always a factor for me, and people would downplay the
business because it was so much. You'd be artists and
you could fire your manager. You could do whatever you want.
Back then, you know, it was the wild wild West
and got talent. Why it was the wild wild West,
and you could be the dopest manager and they fired

(43:31):
you for no freaking reason and you never get a
shot again. Next time you see that nigga, he's driving
a bus and you'd be like, nigga, you was at
the Grammys with me two years ago. Hey, you know
what your post working. You're doing some wild ship, some

(43:51):
ship and not to knock drive maat money. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
That we had a plan that was going there. We
had a plan were doing this and now you completely
did a six.

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Get the crib back to South Life. It is completely different. Yeah,
it's quiet. It's quiet over you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2 (45:52):
Have you spoken to Maya since that clip went viral? No,
I saw her, but didn't say nothing to it. Why
not because it's because when I was working with her, right,
I was really young, too shit right, And my biggest
make was I just asked her not to do something

(46:13):
like I had a lot of female talent at the time.
I can tell the story right here. I had a
lot of female at the time, so I had Yummy
at the time. I had big draws at the time,
Rock Wild at the time. I had to Soul Diggers,
which is Kate Mack who met coy Lray and the
honey Berry. I had him and his brother. I had
the Smith Brothers. I was managed. I was managing all
these different people, and I had like a video director

(46:36):
r Malcolm Jones and all the other type of stuff. Right.
So with coming with Maya when she when we met,
she already knew she wanted me to manage her. So
it was like she was coming off the Bennie Medina thing,
and I was trying to make sure I was going
to be able to do this job. So I flew
out to California with her and was out there for
ten days with her, you know, figuring it out, going

(46:57):
to the studios, seeing the music she wants to do,
her introducing me to people, and I was like, Yo, Maya.
I would be like, Maya, Marie, Maya, Marie, Yo, don't
tell nobody what I'm doing with you yet. Okay, you
know what I'm saying. I'll be like, Yo, just don't
tell nobody yet. You know what I'm saying. Let me
break it to these girls because I got yummy. We

(47:18):
had just signed her deal. They just bounced her check,
you know what I'm saying. We was at cash Money
be signed with cash money. They bounced the check. They
didn't Yes, they wasn't gonna fuck with it no more.
We was in limbo, and I didn't want to be like, oh, well,
guess what I'm managing Maya. Now you know what I'm saying,
just what everybody else is fucked up. But I'm on
top of the mountain. Nobody you know what I'm saying.

(47:40):
So I don't want to come with that. So we
at the party. We at a party, right, everybody stressed
out about the about the cash money thing. Stress stress stress, right,
and a dude, a songwriter comes in and says, yo, Randy, Yo.
I spoke to Maya today and she told me you're
the man. You're the man I need to go see now.

(48:01):
You know, I wrote four records on the last project
coming Like, bro, bro, what are you talking about? Yo?
I just spoke to Maya and she said, I'm like,
oh my god. So now everybody's looking at me, right,
and I'm like, oh, and like, what is she talking about?

Speaker 4 (48:17):
That?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You're the man to go see in and you're and
you're and you're doing the records and and all this
other type of stuff. And when I called the I
spassed out, like, Yo, what the fuck is your problem?
And all I remember about the conversation was your randy,
why what? You don't have to talk to me like that?

(48:39):
That's all I remember. That's all. She was right, definitely,
That's why I apologize to the thing. She's like, ready,
but you don't got to talk to me like that.
I was like, yeah, you saying that, but you're gonna
cost me my ship. You know how you young? You
just getting money here and emotional and your emotional about everything.
That is why I could tell niggas I'll be like,
you gotta take them, trust me that I was him

(49:03):
ranging I was him nigga. So when I had to
sit down and think about it, I never wanted to mention.
I don't even mention her like that, like he might
say something to somebody else will mention that. I don't
mention her because she was so like delicate and that
and that was one of the things. Remember I said
about rumors and ship, like people used to say a

(49:23):
lot of ship about Maya and none of it was true.
I found out out later. So when I'm when I'm manager,
I'm thinking i gotta put a lot of cap in
Hall of Famers at a lot of the niggas in
the cap. I'm not gonna lie. Niggas was capping right
Tommy about her not niggah nigga. None of it was

(49:43):
true right, and it wasn't. It didn't come from her.
It wasn't like she never came to defend her on
her To me, ever, there was other niggas like Yo
bro Son Son was mad about boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom, and I'd be like, damn, people really
like be on that type of time lying on the
female about what they did do.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's ninety percent of the industry my mind.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
At the time. No, so people were saying this and this.
Rappers that I know and niggas that around me like
Yom saying you want boom boom boom. So I'm thinking,
in my mind, this is the dumb shit rory that
we just talked about. How dudes would be thinking I'm
doing her favor. That's crazy. These niggas, these niggas, these
niggas are talking about these niggas are talking about her.

(50:27):
I'm doing this, I'm doing that. She should be thankful
that I'm not thinking. I'm not agreeing with these niggas, right,
And that's why my attitude was like, yeah, so you
never had that conversation with her. We tried, I saw again.
After we did that, we saw again, and we tried
to go to the studio because my relationship was a
creative business relationship. Whe like I'm good at picking records

(50:48):
and knowing what should be written and who's writing and
stuff like that. And we just tried, and she was like,
I just don't feel comfortable because you screamed at me.
Because I thought that you would. I thought that she
thought that that indeed, that was that tiger that was
doing that, that was gonna be hers. Got you, that
I could unleash that you're here to protect me, and

(51:08):
I didn't understand that that makes sense, Yo, you I
want you to be that way, but not to me,
for me, for me, got you. And that's why when
I went on the Carara, I got apologized because she
was the nicest person to me. I'm an artist, but
sometimes you got to know how to use a grenade. Properly.
Listen and listen. She should have told when you hold

(51:31):
the grenade for too long, you can't be mad that
the weapon you used to blow up the world, take
your fingers off a little bit to them. But I'm different,
and you know that with my people that I'm close to,
she would think I could do whatever because I give
everybody that leeway. That's why you fuck with me. You
do whatever fuck you want to do, and nobody's gonna

(51:52):
stop you. So what's your relationship like now? Just whenever
we see each other. But for some reason, I'm gonna
be honest. When I saw her at the ship, I
was right after that clip where viral and I ain't think.
I didn't want her to think I did that. And
then saw her, Oh gotcha, that's why she was right there,
literally and she didn't see me. She was turned out

(52:12):
head and people was calling her and they was looking
at me, and I was like, I'm not gonna say
nothing to And I was like, because if she saw
that clip, which I know she did, Oh, Randy did
that ship because he was gonna see me on Sunday,
nasty like that.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I don't even want this person that my mind.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I was like, you know what, if it's meant to be,
I see it. We were cool. I saw in l
A were cool, but were not going to be like
we was, you know what I'm saying. Different, But we
love it, still love it. Where y'all at with this?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
This dame cam in the fifty situation that that every
other day is great.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't want the Internet. I hate it, though, man.
I mean, I'm with you for all the reasons. Yes,
for business reasons. It's terrible for friendship reasons. It's terrible
for the culture hip hop. They're like, what the fuck
is wrong with these dudes? These dudes is all late forties,
is bickering about.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
We don't have disagreements. My thing is we can have disagreements, right,
But when you're of a certain caliber, caliber, demographic, time,
age status. I just think it's certain shit you just
can't fall into. Like, I just think that we can't
expect the younger dudes to behave and act a certain way,

(53:35):
especially on the Internet and social media. When you got
the elder Statesman, the guys that's been in it since
before all of this shit even existed, they're doing.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
The same shit. You know what I'm saying, I don't
even think the young kids are paying attention to that.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I think I'm not saying they're paying attention to it.
But we'll all sit here and be like, Yo, these
young dudes be wild. They be on the internet, social media,
air and shit out doing all. Yo, that's corny, y'all
do't need do that. But then it's like, Okay, dudes
that's older than us is doing the same ship.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
But Mal, you've you've been around Damon Cam, I've spent
time with Fifth. This is not in their character to
back down. They didn't make all these millions of dollars
lost in and make millions again by just that backing down.
So you got an animal and Dame Dash, Cameron and
fifty cent. Remember Cam and fifty were going at it
for a little bit. Ain't no, this ship ain't stopping it, ain't.

(54:26):
I think this is all part of fifties playing.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
He's he broke up Dipshet, He's had a hand in that.
Now he's having a hand and breaking up Cam and
dames relationship.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
I can't believe I'm not gonna say nothing about them
because everybody just spit venom. And I've been able to
stay out of harms with as much ship as I talk,
I cannot believe that Cam and Dame are arguing. I
can't believe it. No, I can believe they're arguing that.
I can't believe media. This is what this is what

(55:00):
I mean. Anybody can argue they've known each other with
men now and all that I'm talking about, Like, I can't.
I can't believe the bickering back and forth in the
fake lawsuit. And I'm not doing the lawsuit. I'm like,
I can't believe that this is going on. Not from
the story that I don't like I'm not bringing up
nobody's parents, but not from the story about how they

(55:20):
said that Cam got with Rockefeller out all of that.
If that story is true, how does this ever come to?
How does this ever even happen?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
But this is but this is a conversation, like you know,
you know certain people that you have relationships with, and
you have those moments where they say or they do
some shit and it always sends a light bulb in
your head and you might it don't mean nothing in
the moment, But then if something happens between y'all twelve

(55:53):
years from now, you like I always saw this.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
In the and let me say I'm sorry. Fifty will
never never forget when Dame went on MTV and said
that million dollars ain't nothing you broke when no, no,
don't get it twisted.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Niggers have been waiting to have a shot to go
at Dame and laughing.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
No, no, no, no, waiting for this moment. Fifth fifth remembers all
of it. Yeah, he should dog. He has vin me
say something. If somebody stands over you and puts non
bullets in you, you're never going to forget anything anybody
says about you. So so when Dame did that video.
Every time he's waiting and he's relentless. I still tell
the story about what he did with Jimmy Henchman when

(56:36):
he had the lawyers right there, had a big meeting,
and then the news came up that Henchman is in jail.
He stopped all the white people, walked over to me,
propped the phone up and went on live and laughed
at Jimmy Henchman while conducting a twenty million dollar deal.
He loves this street show. No enjoying himself. He can't wait.

(56:56):
He's waiting for his moment to laugh and do. That
is this ship talk. No, Dame, I don't like to talk.
I mean, who wouldn't wait, but even but even it's
only it's only a couple of people, and y'all know
who you're. I don't have a long list, like, but

(57:18):
all this ship talking, even if Dan said that about Faith,
that's that's laughable stuff to me.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Some of it is just it started off felt like
it was just jokes at first and ship talking, but
then it made a complete left turn.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Because anytime black people start talking too much, if you
if niggas talk cracking too many jokes.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Y'all, But it's like what I said, it's like what
I said, you say something. Because even Cam spoke about it.
When Dame brought up Cam getting punched in his face,
Cam said, but you've been waiting to get that off
and and and I know Cam really felt that because
he probably been around before, and niggas kind of like.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
It's like about us as our black like I don't
even understand and why that would even be a factor
that if if he did want to say it, if
it happened to Cam, if you my man, whether it's
on some streets, ship and mall, mall was right to
punch you in your faith. Even my man, I'm still
gonna feel remorse for that situation because you really my man, Yeah,

(58:18):
I get it. So that's why I'm like, when all
of these things come up, I'm like, damn, nobody was
really each other man ever, it was.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Just way never see I don't I said fifth never
because Fifth was never the.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Man. Niggas was connected through money, opportunity or that's not.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Cam and Dame's relationship was definitely not just about money.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Maybe one side of it. It can't be bo. That's
a different conversation. One side of it.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
That's a different conversation because you could be you could
be moving genuine with people and they move strategic with you.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Something about because it has to be a chink in
that almah. But this will occur. And that's all that
I'm saying. It was because if we both moved been
like this, moll, you know that's not gonna happen. Of course,
somebody moving a certain you.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Had, but you've had conversations with friends and family and
somebody say something. Even if y'all talking ship and somebody
throws them out there, You're like, damn, like that was
a little like you.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
That shot you understand, like you know, you'd be like,
I'm one of those. I'll be waiting to bust that show.
This happens with family with frauds and business. I got
a cousin I'm waiting for You're just gonna catch it.
He's catching it. Hold you holding no, But me, I'm
a reactionary nigga. So if you do something, I'd be like,
all right, let it go. But if you start abusing

(59:40):
it now, an example has to be made.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah, because you know sometimes that means I was ever
really cool because I don't really hold times with.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
The no. That's how I feel. It's your birthday, what's
your birthday? Mall Friday, it's clean, can'still okay. That's a
saying I must get him because we think a lot
like I'm not holding tabs neither.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
On you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I'm over it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
But at the same time, that's come back to hurt
me not holding tabs because they was holding tabs on me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But but I bet it also benefited you too. Oh yeah,
there you go. You remove the time. So nothing is
perfect because me because me saying I'm a very giving person.
I give give gift, gift, gift, I don't really get
a lot of much ship. But the times that I get,
it'd be on time, and it'd be every time, on time,

(01:00:35):
every time. It's crazy. I feel like I can't say
I don't get. It's just that it might not be
as much as I give. But because I've been that way,
that's how I've met him, That's how I stayed in
Clues like clues. One of the few people that he'll
be like Yo, Randy always would give me whether he
had money and not make sure you had a birthday,
give dinner. So my man appreciation, whether I'm getting it

(01:00:57):
or not, away with him, same way with good That's
just me, you know what I'm saying. But it does
come back to me in different ways. I've been blessed,
you know what I'm saying. But it does hurt your
heart sometimes, oh absolutely, it gets you stabbed in the
back likes sometimes then it makes you feel so so
different because when I bring you into my small circle,

(01:01:20):
I'm giving you a lot of attention and love and
affection and money and time, you know what I'm saying.
So when you damage that you don't value me, you've
been disrespecting me the whole fucking time, and that's what
the part, that's the part that makes me mad or
will hurt my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
But that's how I feel about this Camon Dame shit.
I feel like it's like it hurts to see it
because I know that there was real, genuine love there.
I know that there was real friendship there, and to
see it now play out the way it's playing out,
and let's just be honest, I feel like it's playing
out because.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
People feel Dame is vulnerable. They feel like he's in
a position that you know, he was the man at
one point, now he's not. Now I'm the man. It's
a lot of that going on, like I don't need
you no more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
It's that a lot of that energy that I don't
like because it's like, don't do that, because it's always
gonna be ups and downs just because you up right
now you're man. Or you think he's down that don't
me start talking crazy to him, ship on him and
all of this other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Granted, not saying that Cam is not right for defending
himself and speaking up and talking his ship, because I
think he was pushed to a position where.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
He felt like like I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I'm a man, I'm a man at the end of
the day, like funk all of this liked, you're not
like you're talking crazy, Like so I get that, but
when it starts getting too personal, when you start talking about, Yo,
your son is broke, he was living with this dude.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Like, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I don't like that because again, as as black men,
my wigger, he understands, we understand. We understand that when
you cross a certain line pointing the return, now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Things are in danger of going a whole nother route.
We start bringing the kids involved.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Now we now flirting with things going my whole different route.
And we've seen this before. We've seen that story. That's
part of our DNA growing up. Somebody say something went
too far.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Now it's beef. They shooting over here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
He got he got cut this that like we've seen
it start from like yo with that's just you know,
he just says someone day and they've been beefing for
fifteen years behind that, Like what so now you're talk
about doing that on social media where now the world
is watching this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
But then game come out and say you're trying to
squash the beef. Yeah, but you don't have leverage to
squash the beef. It's past that. That's true, because in order.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
To squash a beef, it had to taste too, Like
I gotta be willing to squash it too. Now, you
said something about my family or something about something that
I didn't want, you know, didn't think you would ever
say publicly. Now I'm like, nah, fuck that, I don't
want that. But oh no, it's the thing that we
all know what it's like. Niggas get bunching. It happens.
But now when you use that, when you try to

(01:04:05):
weaponize that when we ship talking now, I'm looking at
you like you've been waiting to get that off.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Man. Privately, we know this man. These dudes behind the
scenes are watching the phone and they're waiting for a mishap.
They can play in front of the camera all day.
I don't be caring if it's just waiting for Dame's
teeth to fall out of Yeah, you know Cam. Dame
is waiting for Cam to say, Yo, I'm broke right now.

(01:04:33):
I lost my revolt deal. Not to wish any of that,
these dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
That's nasty though, when you're sitting around waiting for that, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Waiting, waiting. He's not waiting. He can't wait. He's the moment,
the moment ross his name hits the headline. He said,
he's not the only reason Fifth won't upload the videos

(01:05:06):
if he gets distracted. It was a person he was
going to upload the video about he was going to
wreck their career. And the only reason he didn't upload
it because Mano came up there and he forgot the
press send. And I said, you know, you think Fifth
gonna upload that. They said he got one hundred videos,
about a hundred motherfuckers. He never uploaded. He just he
just be forgetting. If he come back to it, he'll

(01:05:28):
press upload. That's crazy. He has a hundred videos. I
don't even want to say the name Glad. I don't.
I'm glad. I don't know what nobody got. I want
to be in. I got my own ship. Yeah, remember
y'all doing. I'm happy for you. I just I told him,
I said, I don't even I grew up with this nigga. Okay,

(01:05:49):
I said, I don't even want to mention fifty cent
name on bag Field ever. Feel Okay. I didn't told
niggas all types of stories and when I was a
kid nigg at fifty? Is this true? Is this true? Yeah,
it's true. But I don't even want that ship because
he might just wake up one day and say, why
is Randy even saying this? Stay out that nigga way?

(01:06:17):
He don't stop Cameron. I don't talk about Cameron. They
asked me questions about Jim Joe. I don't know about
Jim Jones and Cameron. Leave me out the middle of
this ship. Who else they be with? Dame Dash I
said a little bit of shit, I said, I think,
I said on the on back field, I said, I
think he's getting slandered, and people say why he getting slayd?

(01:06:38):
I said, jay Z doesn't have to slander him. Jay
Z's just everybody's favorite. You know what I'm saying. He
has the lever, So just sit back and just watch
everybody just do what he's doing. He he doesn't even
have to want y'all to do it, but your fans.
It's like when you got a bunch of gang members
and somebody wants to go make a you know, they
want to get close to you, so they want to

(01:07:00):
go make a point. He got a fucking a billion
gang members. It's like, oh, if his Dame Dash is trash.
It's this setting on that. So it's like, what are
you gonna get from that? Yo? You out here defending
yourself all day. It's like Drake, I would have said, Yo, Drake,
I don't even engaged in this. No more like Yo,
just go do what you decided to do later. You

(01:07:21):
just put songs out. People still like your records. A
battle doesn't mean nothing. I said that, So I said,
if he just go do the songs, And I said
on the show, I said, the industry isn't as entertaining
since to take down of Drake. Think about that. It's
not boring, it's not entertaining. That's all that I'm saying.
When he was rolling around, Chris Brown's concert had all

(01:07:44):
the bitches. I'm not gonna lie, right, But when Drake
was in town, it was like a hysteria. It was
a thing going on in New York's fine days and
parties here and fashion here, and she was a shot
over here. That's how that's how it was going. I
don't know what it is about him and the people
he brings or who rocks with him, but he had
a different type of excitement to the game and since

(01:08:06):
he been chilling. Ship been boring. Hip hop has been boring,
and now we're gonna kill you. They can't, they said,
but it's the truth. We said it too, but it
has been It's just the truth. Why do you say
it's been born. Nobody's nobody who's bringing excitement. The music
just isn't in a great record. What made I was

(01:08:28):
exciting was the personalities, the feeling that you're not when
they was in public. When you saw dudes coaching at
the rucka Drake was one of the few people he's outside,
one of the most successful with a plastic bin. He's
inside bundles of money. He'd even break the seal. He
just threw the bundles. I don't. He's a talent, rapper artist,

(01:08:55):
he's not outside. Nobody's outside like nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
You guys are from a outsid era, all right. These
kids are inside.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Cady Beast Rollout that's been about outside. They're looking at
it like it's mighty beings outside. And that standard record
she's doing a stand. I mean the same thing with
the Clips. I loved their rollout Standard. It was very
like they just did what anyone and the kids thought
it was magical. Because the little bit they wren out

(01:09:26):
the clips was outside, they were they was accessible. They
did ship downtown and man outside concerts and they were
popping up over here. It gave you the air of
accessibility just because they decided to come outside and make
their face scene. Nobody if you can reach out and
touch somebody. If Nicki Minaj was outside, and I'm not

(01:09:47):
talking about being in the clubs, I'm just talking about
if we saw her somewhere beside an award show or
something like that, hysteria would be different.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
If she stood up on top of a truck and soho.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
It's but you know what it would do. It would
bring excitement to hip hop. I agree, And this is
what we don't have people do. Remember when Jay Z
spent the whole summer driving around New York and the Wrangler.
Everybody talked about that ship, everybody went about Wranglers. It
created something is in the city. Nobody's doing that within

(01:10:20):
their city. So you don't feel like hip hop has
been exciting since Drake just the battle. Once the battle
died down, it's been boring. I think we've had moments,
we've had good music, such as I say, good music,
I agree there's been some good music, but it's not
it's not the clips excited. I can't say nothing like

(01:10:42):
they're gonna drake exactly what you say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Clips rollout was exciting to me. Clips roll out to me,
I think, Yeah, that brought a lot. That was probably
the most exciting moment this year as far as hip
hop went.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Saying nothing, that's the most exciting moment, Like we got it.
It's back to back to square one of just a
standard rollout. It's a standard rollout work. And look what
think about it? They had that. I like Cardi B
on the train better than that. Yeah, I like Cardi
B fake selling the CDs like I'm enjoying that. Yeah,

(01:11:22):
you know what I'm enjoying for hip hop. I'm off
off till the coming door skits about the hip hop story. Yeah,
I'm enjoying that. Yeah, that's bringing some different flavor to
hip hop. I'm looking forward with you. What you said
hip hop's lacks creativity. Now, yes, when he puts the
picture saying comments, I'm telling you, man, it stop playing

(01:11:42):
with me. Drop that. I needs to see this ship.
That's that's excitement. Who else is doing something like that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
The next who's the next because we and or we
talked about it a lot, like who's the next rap superstar?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Like do we see one on a on a on
a you know, like coming down there, I got one. Okay,
I'm let him speaking, And I'm going to say, because
of the climate that we're in and how he understands
the younger audience and older people gravitate to him, said
he will, he could be. It could be, he could be.
I'm gonna say, I don't know him yet. Whoever is

(01:12:18):
going to be the next big executive is going to
have the biggest round. Whoever that person is, whether he's
a street executive that has money, whether it's somebody that
they're going to give a job, it's just going to
be that person that they believe in, like niggas believe
that Nelly and Nelly came out of nowhere. Somebody who
knows how to work the system all, who can take

(01:12:39):
it from the studio to the DJ, who understands the marketing,
Whoever that person is, because they got it Kendrick and
was doing it over there with Sissy and all the
time Top Dog was putting out albums. They got it.
Whoever that next person is that gets it can make
anybody big bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
I was hoping after QC that would catch on again
because there was a break between Murder and Rockefeller rough Riders,
et cetera. And then when Coach K and P came
it was like, oh shit, all this still exists. But
because to me they are there, they should be in
the mix with he had cash money anything QC is
that to me? After that though, it's been quiet on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
The execu They don't want to spend money. He had
the money. And you got to remember Coach K had
to know how from g G GZ so saying he
was in the death cham system. But everything. We went
out to dinner with a big exact and he said
they are afraid to invest in artists. They're holding tight

(01:13:39):
to the money, right. And what I learned is all
these execs now are fifty and above and if they
take a chance on the wrong artists and get fired
out forever, they're driving the bus out forever now to
this standard, to this standard. Yeah now, but understand if
they were twenty five, they would take the risk. Because
all these executives was taking the risk at twenty fot

(01:14:00):
that they're not going to take at fifty because they're
making all this money, they get to swipe the card.
How many rappers budgets have been spent on y'all just
to go out to dinner to convince you to play
a music Yes, we know the deal, We know the deal.
We saw a rapper he has about five million followers
and his total budget was three thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah,

(01:14:22):
and half of that was spent. They were just trying
to get rid of it. Yeah. You know how how
they do? They not your budget down and say, well, off, yeah,
let's see if you could do something with the rest
of his love. We're gonna refecast.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
So so all these older execs they're not taking the risk,
or they're putting their son in charge of labels that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Wait, I'm sorry, do we not call.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
I'm not taking away what Elliot Range did with six
Dons that was trippy rad what's the name of their company?
I think Ice Spice was under the ship says well, yes,
I'm not taking away from somebody that was the son
of Lucian Grange.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
But he still he's still he put his little work in.
But that's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
They're giving him the position at Atlantic, which now we
have the granges.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
And would you do that? Wouldn't you do that with
your dough?

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
No, I think nepotism is a good thing too. I
thought love it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
I support nepotism me too, sure, And I'm not you
don't support nepotism.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
You gotta be good. Yeah, And I'm saying Elliot his day.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
But I'm saying the power play of instead of of
empowering someone like coach K and P. Now, instead I'm
gonna take my son that was under the Universal Ship,
which I'm I own.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I'm sir Lucien Gray.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Sirs are there. He was knighted by the Queen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Sean Connery was the last one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
And if I'm battling between Sony and Warner at I
have Universal. Now my son is at the head of
the biggest on sixty six percent of it. That's what's
going on. They're not going to give somebody like Coach
K and whatever the new the new version of that
is going to be. Now, I'm just gonna move my
family around the three makes The new version.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Is going to be, like I said, it's going to
be off the street or it's going to be from
one of those labels. That's not affiliated with them, that
needs it. They only come get the black ship when
they need it, when they need that street. And they
know niggas is gonna buy it. They're gonna support it,
they're gonna rally behind it, and they know it. They're
just gonna wait and wait and wait, like they're trying

(01:16:17):
to bring the singers back right now. That's what they're
trying to do. They try to take this ship all
the way around. But whoever has that, who understands the
discretionary fund, who has the motherfucking had fun dude, and
understands the game. And I think record labels are gonna
start really signing in publicly podcasters and streets. Then we're

(01:16:38):
supposed to do that, and they're not saying it publicly.
They've been supposed to start doing it publicly. But after
we've seen the money that spot podcasters are magging on Spotify,
which is way more than rappers, it's gonna take about
another five years public So Sony publicly has a podcast division.
Of people don't really know that I'm gonna signed it

(01:17:01):
to Warner Record.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
It's a lot of a lot of podcasters turned down
those those deals from majors I'm sure we're not the
only ones that have been approached by that. I'm not
saying a secret or like some reveal. Now everybody's been
approached by those. Everyone just turns it down because it's
just not really make it worth it. Like no, Maul,
I know you're looking for a phone plan right now,

(01:17:27):
and I'm gonna bet you know you have twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Five dollars in your pocket. You got a little cash
on it, just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
But I mean, if you want a phone plan and
only want to pay twenty five dollars a month for
unlimited talk, text data, I feel like you should.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
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I had a feel. I don't think you thought that.
I knew you were going to see because you don't
know they have no price. I knew it. You knew.
I know to say that you don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Nothing that, it's just like we're not going, what's your
relationship with Math? Like we don't have a relationship? Yeah,
because I saw y'all ran into him. I think it
was yee we ran into him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
But it seemed like it seemed like it seemed like
it wasn't no negative. It seemed like it was like,
you know, there was the frame go back like eight,
But why you did that? See see I know what
that I know what that move is. Why you just
cut it off? It was like, nah, that's his man,
because that's basically what you said.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
That's the truth. So you so you don't have a
relationship with him? Noah, Before I got on the show,
I'll tell you about it. I only knew Math for
nine months okay, okay, alright, gosh and then and then
we was off the show. Space what's your relationship like
with him? You just spoke to him the other thing
and the other day it was been a month or so,
it's not supposed to. But I thought it was all right.
But then people tell me otherwise. When I speak to him,

(01:19:07):
they be like, well, how did you like, I ain't
got no problem with math? I don't. Oh, well I
heard he still got a problem with I'll be like,
I don't know what y'all am.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
We haven't been on the show for three years. Yeah,
I'm pod Bro. I'm just cool and it don't benefit
the conflict is good for YouTube, but business wise, it
don't make sense. Worked on our page. Yeah, that's it.
It's great for YouTube. Oh good money. I'm not doing
no work. I'm not doing no work with I'm not

(01:19:36):
looking backwards. I feel I'm not doing no work with
anybody that I was once doing work with that didn't
value my work. He's not the only one. There's other
people that I work with that didn't value me and
value my work. I'm just looking forward to seeing him
in the shop with him Mecca and goat murdered again. Yeah,
is that going to happen again? That ain't up to me.
I know that, but he taking me, he looked. I

(01:19:58):
don't know what he is looking forwar? What badfield? Do enough?
I like seeing everybody win and everybody consolidate. Don't see boom.
I really don't be knowing with no like Rory.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Y'all don't understand how much Rory has to put me
on what's happening. I don't these people's doing out here.
Rory be texting me in the middle night.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
You saw this? Nah, but thanks, Like, I don't be
knowing what these do. Yeah, I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Don't like all that back and forth, man, get back,
And it's just more so understanding what's going on now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
What I'm saying is from a business standpoint, it hurts
us in totality in the spaces creators. Just like you
said the Dane Can and fifty things, that's the same
thing with this. It's entertaining, but business wise people look
at that optically it can wreck your negotiating power. People
want to be like, I don't like the way these
guys are moving. So it only works for us who

(01:21:00):
are doing this form of content to really thrive. So
if somebody's like, yo, this show ain't doing good right now,
that don't help us because they're gonna be like, oh,
they're the same type of show. Let's give them all
the same game. Flying money That's how I look at them, like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
FU, look how easy shows could just dropping in?

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
You make a great point, Yeah, why you think so
many shows are tailing off like they ain't? If there
was a podcast Boom once a time and now it's
it's not the same, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
It's no different than the mixtape Boom. We're all starting
bo bo is done?

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Is it? It's done? Everyday turn around. The nigga got
a part. They didn't come in and going. You know,
I would DJ throw something out. He's going to try
to do it. There's nobody pinting, I think because the
camp it costs money. Now you know what I'm saying.
It was just it was just fun and games. But

(01:21:57):
now they realize, you gotta have real camera. You gotta
have if you don't have a space ghast, you gotta
have the people that you got, you got your own
space coast. It's hard to find these niggas difficult, motherfucker.
I put up so much ship with space goes this
nigga goes on the road for thirty eight days. Yo,
let me be left them there for three days and

(01:22:17):
I'll be fucking pissed. But I'll be like, what am
I gonna do nobody can do the job.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Let's go to the studio. Heindneyken, we're going pay for
this ship and we're gonna get them to send the
ship to space goes because I can't even have I can't.
I don't want nobody touching my ship. That is the
only person that allowed came touch my when when we
go places, I'm like, Heineken, what because I don't know ship?

(01:22:46):
What is this? Why are they doing that? You know?
That's so let me be careful with my words. Please
do say he's been spoiled so everything he's been since
he's been in a podcast Space Space, He's you know,
he jumped the broom. So when he's back to what
it really is, he's like, why are they doing? I'm like, Yo, chill, Bro.
I'll be like, what the fuck? And I'll be saying, yo, lot,

(01:23:07):
I'm like, your fuck? Is it taking so long?

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
You know I ain't got this much time to fucking
be here. Bro, Like, what the fuck did they problem?
I'm like yo, But he'd be like space Yo, that
you not don't you have when you have your team
and y'all know how to work out your man right here. Yeah,
I know he's He's not a normal motherfucker. So that's
so it's used to that. That's his base. Like Space
can go home right now and cut my ship up

(01:23:34):
and post my ship up tonight. So when niggas be
telling me you need how long to send me a clip? No,
you're fired. Yeah, you're never coming back ever again, Ghost
be trying to help me. Have you give him another chip?
So you see how my shit looks fuzzy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
But people like Space and Impeached, they understand the podcast
genre and the fans, so they're going to cut it
up that it's going to be effective. Where as somebody
that could just control this camera and knows how to edit,
that doesn't that doesn't matter. They know our fans and
they know what's going to work and how it should
be cut up, what it should look like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
The first thing I said to you at the pool party,
I said, your thumb nail games is out of here.
God right there, and I'll be mad in a good way.
I'm like, I can't bite. Yeah, the message game, I said,
your thumbnail game is crazy, bro, this is top tier
ship and that's part of you know, be like that too.

(01:24:38):
I like I like the attention to Yeah, I have
y'all got a different type. I wish we was like that,
we don't have that attention to details. Yeah, when we
get that extra attention to detail, we're gonna go up. Yeah.
But I mean we we we supported John here.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
We said that when the Complex List came out, we
definitely thought that y'all should have been on the Complex.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Weaponized that clip. I got thoughts off of that label.
Said He's like, why are you doing that? They're gonna
give us more money?

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
But but but me and Rory talked about it a lot,
like you know what I'm saying, Like, even though we don't,
we respect the Complex list because you know, they their
reputable platform and they took time to put that together.
But you know, we definitely felt like they got it wrong.
While y'all not being on the list, there was some
guys on that. Yeah, but backfield, y'all definitely deserve to
be on that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
But tell me is when you know, when we're just
watching all the worst thing we saw, we saw a
show that we helped build, go to BT and everybody
act like it wasn't off our work. It don't get
no worse than that yeah, they little funky list. I
nobody left me off. They funky list. I say, all

(01:25:54):
they list is trash. So if a dude is saying
all your listens trash, yeah, I mean I'm telling everybody like,
I'm not really upset as long as my peers and say, yo,
the niggas supposed to be on this, and that's that's
good enough for me because they're not paying us. They're
not the ones that that set us right there got
us coming up here and all this that it's really

(01:26:15):
the people that watch and support us. And let's write
homeless nigga ran down on us. A homeless nigga nigga
dressed in like the KKK outfit, right, you know it
was New York. That's totally different. That's a way with
a little bit of blue. He put a little crypt

(01:26:38):
colors to it. And he was like, yeah, can I
get a dollar? And you know nobody carry cash, and
he like all them lights I give you and all
them comments on the comments, I give you one back.
I know y'all rich, Like they don't give me three
dollars give me to supposed to be the biggs got

(01:27:01):
sixth Avenue Trump Towers. Oh, my gosh, were on sixth Avenue.
The dude stopped us, and then another dude stopped us. Like,
y'all just got home today from twenty six years and
everybody's watching you in the jail, nigga, Oh my Texas.
He was like where. He's like, every jail I go to,
I've been to every jail, and niggas is watching y'all.
Niggas in every fucking jail. I'm like, word, so shit,

(01:27:30):
we got more motherfuckers watching us too, because that means
if you watch it in jail, I get to the
cop got your car. Oh the cop, nigga, I don't
even want to say listen. I don't know if I listen,
I can tell the story. Right. So they yanked this
niggas car, right, he broke in my car and everything.

(01:27:51):
The police didn't The police took his in my car.
So it's set up for him to go to jail
and get arrested. Yeah, I'm supposed to go to jail.
So we go down there to go get the car.
He's like, yo, hi, this is the key to the safe.
Tax I said, all right, cool, I'm gonna bail you out.
The chick looks and says, my boy no, you know

(01:28:12):
you skipped it. She said, I'm trying to verify your
identity because put the yo. Because the nigga said when
she does that, they're gonna the cops is gonna come
out back and they're gonna rat. I said, I'm getting
chills them. Look at this, I said, for my dinity.
The whole time, I'm like, I don't want to go
back to jail again. Oh my god, have the tightest

(01:28:32):
seas on the wall. Fucking smells like ship. This ship.
So she says, I'm trying to verify your identity. So
I'm like, I'm I'm I'm ran through Parker And she says,
are you from backfield because my boyfriend watches you all
the time. Is that your Yeah, that's me. She's hold on,

(01:28:54):
let me get my boyfriend on FaceTime. Do that, get
him on Facen't do that. He said, guess what I
got here? And so I said, my right back. Hey,
I'll follow him back and let us get this car,
she said. She said, do you have three hundred and

(01:29:14):
seventy and seventy seven dollars right now? I say, yes,
I do. She said, okay, I'll be right back and
got you the car, and she said, we the only
people that had our paperwork, our registration there. I just
so happened to get the ship offline. Jery Wondering then
printed it out because we had Jerry Wonder they printed
out Jerry won the studio. I took my shit down

(01:29:34):
there because the reason why is the cops took his
registration and his license, everything off the car. I can
tell you why. After that it was a criminals the cops.
It was feeling me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
I call my detective homeboy. He says, nothing I can
do for you because I'm not in that department. He said,
but they're gonna arrest you. We got a crackdown going on.
You're going to jail. And I was like this crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:59):
And she said do you have three hundred and seventy
seven dollars right? And I said yeah, yeah, yeah, of
course I did. She said, okay, well if you pay
three hundred now, I can get you your car. Looked
at this, I said, when they coming, I'm like, they
coming out, so it's too good to me. I'm like
they coming up from them where. She said, do you
mind following me?

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
I said, follow following? Yeah, yeah, we're not shout out
to you shut off your living room couch. Oh yeah,
I can't even say to y'all, but yo, she like

(01:30:38):
the old time I got home, I was like, yo,
I would be in fucking jail. And I was supposed
to fly out to Rochester with Clue and all and
go to Houston East Town and everything. I was like, oh,
I'm all of that was going. I did a live
show in Houston. Couple okay, fire right, because we ended
up going to the y N Club in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Which one put doom Doom. Don't they shoot the jump
shot to get the dom Okay? Damerisa just came back
from the dome. Fote play do with me?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Yeah, and they let the fucking confetti flying, and they
have your name on a jumbo trying clues name they
brought off the back. It's mythical. Yo, yo, bro bro,
I can't kill. And they shoot the basketball for the
free section. They shoot, yeah, and if you who confetti
comes down like you want to in the middle of
the day, bottles and everything. Okay, let's talk. I practice

(01:31:33):
that you make the shot, you get a free section.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
I would shoot a hundred free throws the week before
and the Solar wars too.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Yes that if you buy a table and I come
in and pay more for the table, your table gone,
the kick you off the top table. Yeah, that's why
I don't go out. Yeah I'm not. I'm not doing that.
Am my dispensary.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Now. I punch it to get like fifty percent of
you walk in if you hit the put putts in
Jersey City.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
Listen, Jersey City, there's too much ship going on, right
you want you walk in? You to do a put putt?

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
You fifty percent off. I've missed it all three times
i've been there, but yo, I'm gonna get it one day.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I remember there was an episode and they was talking
about like how you was cheap and you don't like
taking girls out. And I'm like, that's a fucking false
narrative because I see more like all the lit restaurants.
I feel like I just let I just let them talk, like, Yo,
this is a fory dollar bill right here, and mom
just being the cut was eating it and was in

(01:32:39):
the cut. I'm always in the cut every little restaurant.
I was like, that's stand up real quick. Yeah yeah, yeah,
just like yo, I love love, keep me, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
You didn't see me. I didn't see you. Like are
your crew saying he don't spend the money. I don't
think I'm I just I just let people talk.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
You know what's funny. A girl brought that up to
me last weekend. She was like, y'all heard you was cheap.
I was like, where are y'all getting this from?

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
But this is affecting my real life now, Like where
are y'all getting it? Rory and curse about Like.

Speaker 7 (01:33:16):
Mother fucking stops saying that, because this has trickled down
to the first of all, she's not here to DEFENDERSLF
Demerits is the one that say that you are the
person that says it yourself that you don't trick.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
I don't I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Pussy is I don't do that, but I'll definitely gone.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
I've paid for pussy though. Checking this out, chicking the
means you're buying a bitch of bag, you know that
get some pussy, but a nice little working girl to
three hundred dollars and take her down. That's different, though.
That is crazy. Your handed a girl two hundred and
she started getting naked.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I've tried, I've tried, I've tried to pay and I
literally could not do it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Columbia. Come no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
I'm not going Combia for me, Columbia. I would I
would pay for pussy. That was my first time. Now
costs now to go neither. No, but now understand, Wow,

(01:34:24):
I tried to do it. I physically got sick about
the fellow nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Not get a lot of money. And I'm like, so
now we just He's like, yeah, I just I just
can't like something. I just can't like I get my
nervous system doesn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Just dis before you. I'm not trying to funk up.
But I've done that before. If I go to dinner,
you're going I don't know what time I go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
I go, I go on down, I go on DINNI dates.
I go on dinner dates all the time. Bro, I'm
not looking for to get to know people, hold on
just to kick with with a cute girl like like,
I don't know that she's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Let me ask directly. I'm you normally fun after your
regular dinner dates with the nice women?

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Yeah no, no, no, listen listen, no, listen, listen listen,
Because I've been on. No, no, because I've been on
I've been on dinni dates with women that I've had
sex with before, but after that dinner date, we didn't
have sex.

Speaker 8 (01:35:35):
But you no, no, no, I've been on Master. I've
been on dinnidation women. I've been smash. Hold on, listen,
I've been on You don't get the dinner till I smashed,
just smashed first day.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
No, that is cray. We're just going to eat. God damn.
Like I'm just going to eat like you gotta smashed
in order. Like, Nah, I'm not. I don't live like that. Bro.
I like you to go eat with you. Yeah, that's why.
That is why you go to dinner. You kick it
with You don't know if you like you know, if
I meet you at dinner and I like you in

(01:36:07):
the sexist trash, I don't like you, so we might
as we get to the sex first. That is just
cut off, cut off. Yo. I thought I was crazy.
That is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Literally, I go to dinner with with with a woman
and it's like, obviously she's attractive. I'm a track n
till we know that. But if she just says, yo,
I'm going home, got to get her I'm not gonna, yo,
get the funk.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Out, Like, I'm not gonna be mad that I'm not
having sex, probably even the day you were mad. No,
my question to you, am I going to dinner try
like get on and hope. No, I just say I'm asking,
I ask you. I'm very or the supposed dinner days

(01:36:49):
that you're going now with the cute girls. Do you
normally smash after the cute date with the girl?

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
I'm probably I'm probably a strong forty six from the field.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
That's good. That's a great forty six percent from great numbers.
You know, I think you at least sixty eight. Like
niggas usually fucking like like the niggas that's killing who
likes them. No, they would usually niggas wait to see
do you want to type of shit. I'm gonna see
who liked me, and if she's attractive or nothing, I'm

(01:37:22):
gonna go out with her. So you already know you're going.
That's so the playing fields already kind of rigged normally.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Yeah, But I just I just I don't I don't
have that let them off the hook. No, it's just like, Yo,
we had a good time and crazy if let him
off the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Like it's not that much that it's literally we had
a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
And sometimes she might say, yo, I don't want the
night to end right now, like we let's go home,
let's go like okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
But if she don't say that, cool too, I'm not
you know, they ain't know like you, You're gonna give
it to me, And I'm just me. I've been in
a music business for thirty years. I'm an old man.
I'm about to be forty nine years old in November.
And in my experience as being in the business for
thirty years, it's not very hard to get pussy. They

(01:38:08):
are giving you the pussy on a platter. You you
usually fumble more pussy than you. That is a fact,
believe you. Percent No, no, no, no, no no no.
I think what's if you're if you were leaving pussy
you love, I'm not gonna give the whoa whoa whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
All of us have taken pussy on a platter that
was right there. But sometimes in this crazy world, not me,
we see women that we may like and be like, hey,
we should go out on a date without thinking that
out the gate. That doesn't mean that we wouldn't just
fucked the girl. That was just throwing it out there.
We're going out for a reason because the company, Listen,
it's not because I think this only puts the gate.

(01:38:55):
I could go get some regular pussing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Question a date is the sex after the date? Yeah? Yeah,
that's that's the whole I'm going on the day because
once I get a little twisty, we don't go back
and smoke a little bit. That's the best part of
the day. Well, yore yo, happened. She was fire like,

(01:39:23):
didn't happen? More happened? She was cool. Yeah, we had
a good time. We want we're going for the fire.
She was sure. But I just I just I hate that.
That's like a narrative that I'm cheap. I'm not cheap.
This is all top tier restaurant. Yeah for you to
beat like people think niggas is cheap because you don't

(01:39:44):
boyd the burken Yeah, which is crazy. I'm cheap because
because I don't even know where you get one, Because
I'm gonna you gotta think I'm joking. Where could you
go get one? Right? Yeah? I could not.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
If somebody said go get a burke, and I'll be like,
how'd you get one. What is it that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
You can definitely get online? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
Is one of that McDonald's canal streets twenty one thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Some of them bind the bag.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
For twenty five grand online? To me is the now
I got a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Shout to Bonnie Bonnie Nelson. This is back in two
thousand and nine. Bonnie had the burking bag with the
little burke and to go in it. She was on
some other levels that that bad culture. It is a culture. Yeah,
I agree, I got a side chick asking for a
two thousand dollars bagn saying got loudest. He ain't got nobody, Okay,

(01:40:49):
he can't. His new nickname is Denzil because he got
all the pictures coming to him because because everybody think
I'm mean, I you know what I'm saying, So everybody
be thinking that this is the running joke, and he
knows it. He's like the real mean one, and I'm
actually the nice one that he catch jokes. Everybody thinks
he's mean, and if it's just just walk right around

(01:41:10):
me and be like, hey, so so I'll be looking
at this niggas itself over. He's he's just raking them
on there like, yeah, he's mean, he's right here. This
is about to go to another level, you know, tell
him when they could catch all YouTube doc your backfield

(01:41:34):
type of the bag fe on YouTube, b on Instagram,
go to E S S O W R l DS
no oh in there that's me and you can go
to he cant h y N A K E N.
You could just go to our pages and you can
find everything. Just hit the follow buttons you are. It's
the cheapest thing you can never do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
This was great. We gotta we gotta do the man.
This could be a good man, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Niggas is crazy. Thank y'all for coming through. We finally happened.
We finally got to have a conversation on camera. Appreciate
that's bag feel I'm that nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
He's just Jinger Peace Wi

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