Checking In With Gary Owen

Legendary comedian Gary Owen checks in with Rory and Mal to talk how he cheated his way into Comic View, making the leap from standup comedy to the big screen, why he decided to get married again after a very public divorce #volume

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, Rory, we are back with a new episode
of New Rory and Maul, and today we are joined
by a gentleman that I have been a legit fan
of for years. You were a little young Rory when
I first Soldier Gentleman on BT Comic View. Uh, when
I saw that he was automatically walking into our community.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
He's been one of us ever since.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Funny, funny guy, comedian, stand up comedian and actor and
also a navyman.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
So saluted him. He's a Navy. He really supports the
troops like he's really into the truth. I'm really into
the truth. We are we are joints.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Actually you're joking with this guy. It's very much support
the troops, back the blue American man.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Which want me to do? I said, this is Gary Owen.
No Gary Owen for myself. But it's funny because you
are Gary Owen.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
But you dropped. You dropped as well when you when
you joined the Union. First movie I got there was
Gary Owens. He was the host to laughing yes and
then yes. They literally I didn't know this. They gave
me a list of names to choose from, and I
was like, what is this. They go well, once you're
in the Screen Actors Guild, there can only be one
of everything. I kept thinking, what's the easiest thing to do,

(01:22):
because they gave me like two rs my mental initial
in there, it was all this different range. I just
went I just I just dropped the S. It's easier.
How did my mom feel about How did I feel about that?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I thought it was actually just Gary Owen in the
way that black people tend to pluralize, like everything Barnes
and Nobles, great Adventuress, Meek Mills, like you guys just
had so I assumed like your name was really Gary
Owen and your audience just.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Last year. Yeah it was on on a pedestal like yeah,
or soapbox it's no, yeah. Stop. Meanwhile, the family was like,
what's wrong with gas? I'm trying, but I tried to
keep everybody protected like that, and then finally just came out.
He started googling like wa yeah. Then my kids got
in school, they's like, how's your dad? You're this?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Then he started to figure out like John Stewart's real
last name and think maybe Jamie Fox.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, Eric Bishop, Yeah, Tom Cruise. I'm guessing it's not Cruise.
He could.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I mean, he converted to scientology, so I'm sure it's
definitely not Cruise Hubbard or something is his last name.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I think the best one was Charles Bronson, where he
literally went in for an audition and it was on
Bronson Avenue and he was like, yeah, I'm just gonna
go with that. Yeah. Yeah, he's just like the Street.
I was like this, just glad I didn't didn't pick
Santa Monica for name.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Well, how are you doing in New York for the
week City Winery?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
That we were just discussing last time I saw you.
You did not see me, but you did out bottle
war me in like twenty He loves telling the story
fifteen I did what you out bottle warred me. You
had a bottle ward and it was in a club, right, Yeah,
well it was definitely a one sided war.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
It was.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
It was like when they invade a very small country
and they can't fight back. We were at the Anthony
on Bleaker and there was only two tables that were
upstairs and I was there already.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Then you you came.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
You're very gracious, everyone very kind, But then I was
just ordering from the bar for everybody. Then you started
like having the fireworks show, and then slowly all the
people that I was with went to your table. That's
and then and then I just boycotted and sat at
my own table, and just like, yo, not bad.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I loved it because I just stop buying drinks.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You were very gracious.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
You let everyone I was with have drinks from from
the bottles.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
You had a black Yeah, it's hard when started coming
like you really don't want them to take over your section,
and you're like, only with women. I was with only
with black women, that makes sense. Yeah, oh yeah yeah,
let's party demog Yeah sure, come on, yeah yeah absolutely.
I started pulling up YouTube showing views. I was like,

(04:08):
all right, man, I can't win now. There's nothing worse
though than like going out and just dudes just overrun
your area. Oh yeah. So I remember I was in
Saint Louis and I was on one of them shows.
There was like five of us, and Tony Rock was
on the show, and we went to this party and
Tony said, eight, stop buys, all right, So I go

(04:29):
with two of my buddies and Tony sections literally got
like four guys and four girls at this point, and
I come in. Now that's seven guys. If I said, guys,
we gotta go, yet go, we gotta go, And he's like,
what are you talking about? I go, we just messed
up the entire odds here. And I looked at all
four dudes faces and they didn't have to say nothing.
I knew what they was thinking, like, Yo, you just

(04:52):
messed up the entire ratio. We don't know who we're
trying to talk to, we don't know what's going on.
So I was like, yeah, we got a dip. This
is not a good look right now.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So Gary, we well, I'm a little older than everybody else
in the room, but I remember seeing you for the
first time on BT Comic View. Take us back, because
I know you started in San Diego comedy you were
in the Navy, and what was the what was the
the move like in California? Like did you fall in
love with comedy while you were in California? Was this

(05:21):
something that you always thought about doing?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
No? I always wanted to do it from high school.
I was in sixth grade. In the first day of school,
I was talking why the gym teacher was talking and
then he goes, you know, he goes, you gotta be quiet.
Will you be a comedian or something, And I was
like yeah, and he goes, well, okay, not my class,
Like he still tells the story this day of how
he was the one that the spark happened in sixth

(05:45):
grade with Gary Owen. He goes, he had almost backtrack,
like not my class, didn't want to crush my dreams
and everything. At the beginning of Juicy for Gary, all
the teachers.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
That didn't want me to.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Say, but I don't know. I just always knew I
was going to do it. I didn't know how. I
lived in a trailer park in Ohio. I didn't know
how to you become a stand up. But always in
people I grew up with will tell you. I was like,
I used to tell you I'm a stand up. I'm
going to be a stand up. I don't know how,
but I'm going to do it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
But how does that because you can say it, but
then when it's actually time to go to a comedy
club or into a competition, get on stage, like as
somebody that's never done that before, Like, how do you
prepare for that moment you.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Think you're going to get discovered? At least I did?
Okay the first time I got on stage of the
Commede Store in La Joya, which was the open mic night.
I remember I was in the mirror. I got dressed.
I don't know why. I thought I was gonna be
like Eddie Murphy delirious that night. A lot of leather.
They're going to see that. Where are you? The void

(06:49):
had been needing to fill. They're gonna say they get ready. Yeah.
I just got there, like if the show was at eight.
I got there like seven, and I just sat in
the back and I just start watching people come in. Right.
I think I was eleventh of twelve or maybe twelfth
of the open micros at night. So just as fast
as I saw the people come in, I also saw

(07:11):
them leaving, right. So then by the time I got
on stage, it was probably ten people in the audience.
You know, the Comedy Store in the Hoyle was only
two and fifty people maybe, so it wasn't sold out,
but they just kept leaving. I think there was more
comics in the back than the actual audience. It was like, oh,
this isn't what I envisioned, right, And then you know,

(07:32):
didn't go that great, but I was like, Okay, I
can do this. Yeah, I think I can do it,
but you I've read that.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
You when you performed the first in front of a
majority black audience, a lot of your jokes landed that
you would use in other places. And you was like, oh, Okay,
this room like they get it, they understand my type
of humor.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Might cheat it too, because I was young as I'm like,
I was like twenty twenty one. I came out dancing
and I had some hip hop music playing, and you
had a little rhythm as a white guy on the
black woman beating with that guy on the boat singing
Keith Sweet. Yeah you see that one. I want to
He can't really sing if you really listened, but he

(08:13):
hit that first note and that's what we was. That's
what I did. I go oh, I kind of had
a cheek coat a little bit, and it was always
Destiny's Child, no no, no, yeah yeah yeah, because they
had like a little slow intro to be picked in. Yeah,
So I walked out real slow and then I started

(08:35):
doing some fucking ship with gyrating and ship, and they like, like,
I'm cheating, straight up cheating, But I got I think
that'd be fun. How would that work? At the apology?
Was I couldn't do it then the Hoya because it
was mostly they don't have a sound system. They still don't. Yeah,

(08:56):
or have the CD. Yeah they don't have that. That's crazy.
The comments because I did it like three years ago,
almost like nostalgic. I'm going to go back to where
they started. So I did a weekend there. It's the same.
I got a little guy piano. Oh and one of
my openers lost it because he got like four music cues.
I told you, I tell my guys don't use all

(09:17):
the music cruise. You can't rely on them, and they
don't translate to TV. He was like, Yo, they ain't
got nothing. You got to come out cold. I go, well,
well come to stand up, bro.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, that's that's crazy though, walking out and no music,
no nothing.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Nothing played desy off the phone. That's right to the
mic like this walk out right? So you leave? You leave?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Said san Diego, And how does how does the comic
view happen?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I want to contest of San Diego. They said we're
looking for the funniest black comedian san Diego. So I
called in, didn't say I was white or black, and
got on won the contest. The first prize was an
audition for Comic View. So do you guys remember the Militant?
He was a he was a producer and he was
also comedian on Confy. He passed away a few years ago. Yes,

(10:02):
I do remember him. He was one of the judges
of the contest and then he got me auditioned. I
drove to La auditioned and then I got on Comic View.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Before you get there, though, did the casting person get
fired once you showed up for the contests and they're
looking for the black comedian and then you showed up.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Did anyone go on go to casting like, hey, well.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
It's San Diego, it's not Brooklyn. Let's bring down Tony Gwenn.
Natron means era. It wasn't a lot of gangsters at
the time. I think Nick Cannon was in it. It
just started with seventeen. So uh, I won it, and
it sounds cocky. I won by a landslide, like it

(10:44):
was a bad competition. Do you remember Nick's jokes? Nick
was rapid. You wasn't even telling jokes. He was in
a rep group called the Bomb Squad with another guy,
And I always say, what happened to that guy? That
Bran Nunckleman from America and I Nick went on to
be Ryan Seacrest, Brian Dunkleman. Where's he at? Yeah? That
was another guy. I know that. It was literally the
guy saying I just went a recruity. You know, he

(11:08):
was rapping stand up yet he was like the musical guest.
How many rap roofs do you think were named that
in the nineties? Bomb squad at least third d A.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, gotta be the bomb squad bomb Yeah, absolutely, shut
up in the cannon.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
He's doing Yeah, he's doing great, he's doing Yeah, he's
doing okay. He did okay himself. Yeah, Mariah carry, I
feel form like, yeah, he's struggling, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Were you inviting uh some of like your platoon out
like were the Seals?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Always were the Seals there? Dude? When I first started
going to l A, well, I want to anyways, I
want the contest, got on com view and the rest
is history, so to speak. Yeah, but I would start
going to l A, and I'm open mic and around
l A and stuff, I'd always I didn't want I'd
always have to drive, Like I get off work at
like four in the Navy. I might have like a
ten pm spot in l A to two and a

(11:58):
half hour drive. So I'd always like get guys to
go with me. I go and I'd lie, I'm like, yo,
last last one went up there. I saw Jim Carrey,
what you know, I saw I saw Viva Fox, I
saw Will Smith and we're like in the late nineties now, right, Yeah,
so they're they're like what And every time I go,
wouldn't se anybody where they had I go. I guess
they were shooting them off. Yeah, it was their last time. Yeah,

(12:18):
you know what I mean. I mean Jim had told
me he was working on a movie, that's why he's
not here. Yeah, dude, I was like, I'm lying because
you know, we might not be on Sunset. I might
have a spot, you know, south of Figaroa. Nobody there.
Here's the crazy part. At that time, they were nobody
if any of those military guys to come back. Now,

(12:39):
they did see Kevin Hart, they did see Kat Williams,
but no I knew who they were back back then. Yes,
so in a way I did expose him to like
a little celebrities, but they weren't at the time. So yeah,
I'd always lie to my guys, because you know, you
make that drive man. Sometimes you get over work at
four four thirty, you're hitting rush hour, you're not getting
to LA or seven thirty eight, and you're just grabbing

(12:59):
something eat that you're doing your five ten minute spot,
and you're usually hanging out for a little bit afterwards,
talking in comics, and then you're driving back. Because I
remember there was a it was a km art in
Dana Point, which is about halfway from San Diego to
LA and I used to park there and take a nap.
Sometimes I couldn't make it, and then uh, but if
I had somebody right with me, you know, we could

(13:20):
switch off and then the guys would come back and
then I tell something they tell if you he lie in,
I see nobody and then somebody else that didn't talk
to them. No, No, they're going to be there tonight.
Straight up.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, I didn't know the full Navy history. Now I
think about Ohio to the Navy, to entertainment. You you
may be the white an swan fisher, now that I
really think that, I think about, Yeah, the entire situation.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I'm trailer park. He was the hood. The Big Park
is the hood without the gun. Violence. We shoot ourselves,
we don't shoot other people. We are quick to do suicide,
but we don't shoot other people. We'll shoow other people
up with heroin.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
And that's so you don't kill him. That suicide prevention.
I remember when I was growing up in the trailer park.
I think that was funny.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
One I went across street to the trailer and they
had a catfish in their bathtub, and I thought that
was the coolest thing. So I realized how they get
in bass or showers. They only got one bathroom, But
I was like, those are cotfish. I remember telling my
mom they got a cotfish in her bathtub and it's
just swimming half the time of its life, for probably
the five hours it's got left to live. Yeah, why,

(14:27):
I just don't know how you can't survive in a
bath tub of water. And then, uh, the one guy
tried to commit suicide like two trailers down and he missed,
so he went here and the bullet went here. So
I just remember waking up, you see the ambulances coming
down and everything, and then I just remember thinking to myself,
double loser.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah, and you gotta think, like you know, when you're suicidal,
you feel very worthless about yourself and like I can't
even I can't even kill myself.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeaheah. And you live in a trailer going to make
me more suicide thinking of yourself. You couldn't do it.
And now you're coming back and we're seeing the bandage,
we're seeing it all.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Then you gotta start lying like I stumbled over the gun.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I tripped.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
It was dark, I couldn't see it.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
I recently went to a trailer park in Baton Rouge,
and I was I'm aware of people like accidentally overdosing
and dying off fentanyl.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
They think it's something else.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
They were like actively offering fentanyl like they were handing
me a bud light to that degree, you know, you
know somevent this is what some fentanyls.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
No, I'm cool, Oh my god, I understand that if
it gets put in a batch and you don't know,
you want to go do something or whatever like yeah,
but they're just like no, no, it's just straight up
f If you want something, I like, wait, don't know.
If you have like a touch of that, you die.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, yeah, we're good.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
The other guy, I always wants the top every story.
I would know I wasn't bragging.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
First of all, thirty five years old with a tiny
bit of money, I shouldn't be in a Baton Rouge.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Did you get there?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
But listen, man, sometimes you fall asleep in the car
in New Orleans and you wake up in Baton Rouge.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Hmmm. Okay, it must have been some good That's what
I'm saying. That's all it was. That got absolutely. I
didn't meet a beautiful young lady.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Just knows a lot of people that have.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Fed though, So Taylan Way, they just shoot guns for
like not even the range, just just in the trailer park.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
We're just gonna shoot the street this out there.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
But Baton Ruge is like South for real, Like that's
the that's the Yeah, that's South.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
You take you take L. S U out of there.
It's Mississippi. Okay.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
So I was just being the fucking Northeast ignorant guide
to the South, and I didn't false I knew I
was going to Baton Rouge.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
I'm thinking, I really want to see like L.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
S U.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
And this is gonna be amazing. Take you by the stadium.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
No, No, that's not the town. That's not the town
you go sight seeing in.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
She was like, you want to see where young boy's from.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I said, fuck Noble certain parts, but everybody she got
certain parts.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
You make one wrong turn. New Orleans. That's the only
place I got followed openly was New Orleans. Mean he
followed you, dude. They were straight up trying to get me.
I was like, this is so obvious. Like I was
because I shot a movie there like two thousand and six.
So I was there for like two and a half months.
And I remember I had this little outdoor spot right

(17:32):
off Bird I used to go eat all the time,
and I'm looking. There's two brothers. I'm sorry they were black. Yeah,
they're just sitting across and it's clear we're like kind
of talking about me. I'm going, huh, they're fans. Nah,
it wasn't that time. The middle of the day. I'm
walking down Bourbon and literally it was almost like the

(17:53):
guy hit the other guy and they were just a
good distance from me, but clearly. Yeah. Going to a store,
they'd sit outside. I was like, they're freaking fun. They're
waiting for me to be alone. Man. I went to
I went into a CVS. I swear to go. I
was there for an hour and a half waiting. I
read every Man's Health magazine. There was I was like, ripped.

(18:17):
That guy's pretty ripped. I'm going, are they outside a CVS.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Looking at the ingredients of day quil its going?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
This was so obvious.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
At what point though, Gary in that moment does like
the Navy and you kick in? Though it did, I
noticed it if I was following you to combat, like
I want this like Navies.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
We're not like that. We're not. Let's just slow it
down a little bit, all right. He was not a
seal when the seal shout up to the San Diego bars,
like when he showed up to the bar with me, like,
you're taking over the room. I hang out with seals,
not a seal. Hang on, Floyd Mayweather, I'm not Floyd Mayweather,
you know what I mean? Yeah, it was. It was
so obvious. But it's weird because you become are the

(19:02):
Karen and you you're like you. We hear so much
about white Karen's like, I don't want to tell the cops.
I don't want to call the cops because I'm thinking
this might be if it isn't, but I know it is,
but I'm going, dang, it's weird thing that the white
guilt really kicked in at that moment. I was like this,
you know what I mean? So reading every Mint health magazine.

(19:23):
They finally just said, all right, let's go to something.
He's taking too long. That's bulldo off Bourbon. Yeah, they followed.
It was so obvious, like this was not me just
making it up. Every place I ducked into, they just
kind of sat and I was like, damn, did they
think I'm that oblivious? And they kept a good distance,

(19:43):
just beyond obvious though. I was like, yeah, other than that,
New Orleans is a beautiful city. We did it. End
they just like this left, okay, stopped. They stopped waiting
for me, you know what. And a bad part about
I was at this peer. I was at this hotel
called the Pierre mart Cat and it kind of sat
out of the cut and you kind of go down
one of them side streets to get through it, even

(20:06):
though it's right off Canal and Bourbon is off side streets.
So I was like, if they're gonna eventually get to me,
point to my hotel, you know what I mean, I
do it. I was at a brisk walk almost jog back,
so when you sort of crash y. I'm but I
like New Orleans like that. I love New Orleans and
one of my favorite cities.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's one of the only cities I feel like you're
not in the United States. Out of every US city,
it's the only one that doesn't feel like you're in
the US. I mean, I guess Miami, but yeah, Miami.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, But to me, it's it's always just New Orleans
looks way different than anything else.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
So so so Gary, you make the transition from comedy
to now acting.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
What was that like your first what was your first
TV role? The first movie was held up with Jamie Fox.
Fox got me. I think that's a classic movie. Yeah,
it didn't do well at the box office. That's okay,
we don't care. They messed that. They messed the marketing
up for that movie though, because when they shot it,
you know, Jamie was cool. He was Jamie Fox Show. Yeah,

(21:08):
and like literally the I'm talking the week after we
got back from rapping, because I was kind of hanging
with Jamie a lot back then. Yeah, he got the
audition for any given Sunday and what I remember, I
was at his house and he was like, yo, he
came in for an agent, the one the part Dwayne
Martin played. I believe, so he goes yo. I went
in and here talking about Oliver Stone. He was kind

(21:30):
of like, kind of I don't want to put words
in his mouth, but he wasn't. He was he was
pushing him to his limits. Jamie and the audition, which
you know, I think every genius has a bit of
crazy in them. Yeah, and I don't know, I know
Jamie was like, man, what was up with that dude?
And then did he obviously didn't get they couldn't throw
the football is what what I've always hearst everybody did.

(21:53):
He was supposed to be Willie Beeman. Yeah, I didn't
know that. I never knew that. Yeah, he couldn't. He
was unathletic. Yeah, he couldn't throw the ball. Too much
oil maybe you know what I mean though, Jamie when
he was steaming Willy Beeman was oiled up in that
music video that he did. Yeah, he was ripped up.
And so all of a sudden, Hey, we're about to

(22:13):
shoot this video. Man, We're going to this music video
or steaming Willie Beeman. I got the Ladies creaming deal.
You know, I'm just there that's a good idea. Also,
he gets a great record though, yeah, he gets the
part they hold held up till Any Given Sunday comes out.
So the movie took about two and a half years
to drop after we shot it because they was like,

(22:36):
now Jamie got we think Jamie's about to go, and
he did, but this movie didn't. I think they were Hell,
there wasn't. It was a good movie though, like it was.
It was funny, but when it came out in a
timely fashion, I think it would have did better. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, I feel like you're comparing it to an Oliver
Stone bud and I mean, to me, a classic classic
movie Any Given Sunday.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, I would be pissed if that shit came
out after But what was it? What was it that
was my first held up? Was the first one? Was
it a huge?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
You know from being on stage because we talked to
comedians a lot and you know, going to comedy shows.
To me, a stand up comic is the probably one
of the toughest jobs in entertainment.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's crazy to me because I find it so easy.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
But how happen because you don't know when you go
on the stage, you don't know who's going to be
in an audience, you know, and a lot of stand
up comics, especially you, you play off of the audience,
the energy, who's in the audience. You have banter back
and forth with people in the audience. If it's not
that though, for a stand up comic, you only have
your material to kind of fall back on. That has

(23:41):
to be a tough spot versus acting. You have lines
cues other people to feed off of on set, Like
a stand up comic is just you the mic in
the spotlight?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, I find acting much harder than stand up much harder.
Why your words? You got to you gotta memorize stuff,
and then you're putting a lot of probably undue pressure
on yourself because you want to you want to deliver.
You don't know what the director of the producer's vision
is of this character. You're bringing what you think you

(24:11):
think is right and so, and you know, I just
find active way. If you're going to ask you what's harder.
I'm not gonna say, oh my, I'm not like doing
backbreaking work here. But if you're gonna ask me, what
is more challenging acting over stand up? For me? If
you ask, like, like anybody else that's been active for

(24:34):
a long time, so they're gonna be like stand up's
much harder. But for me, stand up is just like nothing,
you know. I think it's the strangest art form ever.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Like the fact that people can sell out arenas with
literally just a microphone. There's no backup dancers, there's no
hit song that everyone wants to hear, Like everyone's sitting
to wait to hear for that hit song is to me,
the most shit ever.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
And you can come out and cargo pants and a
black T shirt. Yeah, which is a wardrobe. Yeah, you
go to you go to hard rocking. You see like
this is this was Prince he wore this, Dana Ross
wore this, and you see Shane Gillis, Shane Gillis with
his black T shirt. It meets Levice. There's no fashion.
I literally I watched some specials like oh hnging fuck yeah, literally,

(25:23):
like black comics being in the black comedy world and
then mainstream have your mainstream friends too, which are mostly white.
You got latinos and everything else. But I'm like, by
the black comics put a lot on that wardrobe. Oh yeah,
they gotta look good about their specials. I'd be like, oh,
but I think a lot of that is Eddie Murphy.
Though yeah he did the leather.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I think that kind of set the precedence of when
you have your stand up moment, like this is your special,
you gotta come out here and just look like it
has to be a moment, like as soon as they see.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
You, what are you wearing?

Speaker 4 (25:55):
The funniest thing was a Z's wearing amazing suits for
like a decade, and then they did that bullshit to him,
and then he showed showed up in a hoodie.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think I'm cool, man, I'm not dressing up for
y'all anymore. Look what the fuck out did to me?
Were the zip up?

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Oh yeah yeah, dressed like a painter.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
And had of changing the oil on somebody's thing.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I mean, Luisy K has done the Garden for twenty
years wearing probably the same black T shirt, same exact
black tea.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I get Luisy k.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Specials mixed up sometimes with clips because he's been wearing
the same.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
T shirt and jeans for every single special. Yeah, but
I know my last special, the one ohen no s.
It's funny because I had another one come out eight
months ago called Broken Family. How that had. I got
the same outfit on both specials, by the way, and
the same backdrop because it's the same venue. Well, we
shot Friday and Friday. I remember of Friday Saturday momorrow.

(26:51):
I woke up and having call frough with my manager
and I go, I think another hour. We we got
it last night, right, We're good? Did We checked the
gate and she called the guy. I was like, yeah,
we're good, and I go, thinn, I'm gonna do a
different hour tonight. Let's let's try it. And then she
was like all right, Well I didn't prepare for another hour.
As far as wardrobe wise, I literally like, oh, I

(27:12):
bought to the same pair of jeans, to the same
pair of shirts and everything, because I was like, I
didn't know. Yeah, So it's funny because I could literally
spice two hours together and have a two hour special.
Basically now it's the same, everything's the same.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I was very much confused when I went to your
YouTube page of ninety days till the new special and
it was the same as at the old one.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
So I was like, wait, all right, is this the
deluxe album? I didn't know.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
I was very I was very confused of the entire day.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Okay, that's knew.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
I wasn't, but I was like, maybe it's a different
N two for one out of it. Yeah, you know,
so where did you misplace the shirts and jeans?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like? You were good to go. I was good because
you always buy when you're doing a special least I
always do I buy the same outfit because you don't know,
you might sweat, Yeah, something might happen, so you just
you you bring it up an extra just in case.
So I had bought the same shirt twice in the
same geenes twice.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
So I was just like, oh, all right, what do
you think about the tropes that people say? They say,
like your comedy it panders to the black audience, which
is that what's been a.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Thing for you?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
If you're like, oh, Gary on his comedy, he just
you know, he makes black jokes and he tries to
get and I'm just like, well, it's part of comedy.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Though. Every stand up you talk about your life, right,
my inner circle just there's a lot of black people
in it, you know, Like I got mixed kids. I
can't talk about having white kids. I don't have them.
I don't get it, you know what I mean? I
think it's just it's easy, like it's it's kind of

(28:43):
low hanging fruit like. But you've heard that before. I'm
sure never in person and the internet. Yes, nobody's ever
come to me in person and said that. No, no, no,
because I mean, your fans are your fans. They love you.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
They don't look at it like that. But there's a
thing about Gary on comedy. But like you said, if
you comic you want, you hosted comic view.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, dude, I would have hosted Telemundo if I knew Spanish,
you know what I mean. Like, I was just trying
to get on TV. I just won that contest and
I got on. I would I was. I was like about, dude,
I was. I was a folencet for the real world
before I did comic Which city?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Which city?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
As ninety six.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
You have to walk us through this entire process because
you are you tricked the casting director for the best
Black comic in San Diego. Please explain the casting experience
with real world. I didn't get on it, I know,
but but you know, there were still a casting experience.
So this was before internet. So this is a real world.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
See in the real world and they tell you, yeah,
that cat No, no, no, that Seattle, Seattle, the Boston cast. Okay,
so here's the funny story about that. There's Cyrus on
the end. Okay, Cyrus, here's the funny story about that.
Boston Prince to the right. So I they tell tell
you when the Real World was ending, whatever season was

(30:04):
before that next season, and they give you like an
address if you want to, you know, write this or
send in a tape or something. Right, we're casting for
next season's Real World. That's how it was done back then. Yeah, shoot,
I'm writing it down right, Okay, Right, you write a letter.
I wrote a letter why I should be on it?
Then you send a VHS tape. And I said, my

(30:26):
buddy worked at this place called Good Guys. And I sat.
He put like literally one hundred TVs behind me. So
in my audition tape, real production, everything was timed by
one hundred. So I'm hot, I'm gearing. I really want
to do They was like, so they then they they

(30:51):
first they responded to the letter and said, yeah, could
you put yourself on tape? So then I put myself
on tape. Then I got another letter with a phone
number to it. I called the phone number and they said,
come up, we'd like to interview you. So I came
up and then there was like god, there was probably

(31:11):
forty forty guys and the lobby. I'm sure there was more,
but I went in, did the interview and didn't get on.
I just remember the one question they go, in your world,
what's the perfect house for the world world? I go,
me and six black chicks. That's probably what it didn't
get me, the part I wanted numbers, me and six

(31:33):
black chicks.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
You already pitching the Chapelle show sketch before the.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I said chicks, Me and six black chicks. I looked
around and it was all white ladies. I going over.
So this is what I remember about that season. So
of course I never heard anything after that, right, Yeah,
don't they don't tell you, No, it's just radio silent.
So when the seasons started, of course I'm watching it
invested interest. I want to see what got on. Yeah.

(32:01):
I remember seeing Cyrus and that's one I remember seeing, right, Yeah,
so here's what's funny. Cyrien just on there he likes
white girls. I went, oh, direction, Yeah. The black girl
was from Stanford. She didn't agree with ani racial dating.
She ended up sleeping with the white dude when they
went away on their remember every year they went away

(32:22):
for a week. Yeah, she slept with a white dude
on their little getaway, and I go, I was supposed
to sleep with her. Yeah, I was supposed to that
black girl from Stanford. He just took my kid the
cat and you just would have flopped you in. It
would have been the same thing. Yeah. I was like
that because that's all she was looking for. It was
just you know, I mean, Cyrus could have hung out
at bars, never slept on toes. I would have slept

(32:44):
with her. Who knows.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But the real world is one of It was funny
because we just spoke about this book maybe two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I brought up the real world because they they.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Don't really remember it, and I'm like, yo, the real world, No,
not the years you remember the year in New York
when they had heaven Be was on it, Like I
told you, she is. She was on the on the
real world. But that's funny.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I never knew Gary onwe auditioned for before I was
doing stand up. Bro, that's crazy. I was just I knew.
I knew I had like less than a year, less
than the Navy, and I was preparing myself to get out,
and I was just like, I'm just gonna go for it.
And I listen, if I would have got cast it,
I don't know if I would have been out of

(33:22):
the Navy yet. I didn't think that far ahead. I'll
just leave you be in Germany right now, just go up. Yeah,
you know. But everything I was doing was getting ready
to get out. So no, I was. I was probably
was doing stand up a little bit, but I think
there was ninety six. No I were doing stand up yet,
No six. Wow, that just sounds like a lifetime. I

(33:44):
feel like Boston ninety six or ninety seven. Nice. So
it was nice. So I was just starting.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, I mean they turned your idea into think like
a man.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah you and look at that. That's pretty much what
they were doing. Chicks. I just remember that, my lady,
this ain't going.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
I wonder, I like, still has that casting tape somewhere.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm sure they went, yeah, he cable TV.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Things are changing, and go for it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It's gonna go really well or really bad. It went
really bad.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
I see you have a wedding ring on.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I have not.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I mean I kept up with the earlier stuff, the
earlier material. You were pretty much like my, uh my
take a when you were on the run to not
get served papers, facts, facts.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So what made you want to get married again? Huh?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
What made you want to get married again?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Pren up? Nice?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Because these things make me nervous and break out and hive.
So I'm very curious after watching that entire thing and
rooting for you, just just going right back and right
back in a little terrified.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
So you guys got winto the divorce, not in real time.
It was over long before, usually how relationships go. Yeah,
you guys got wind of it late. It was that
ship had sailed years before. So it was like to me,
it wasn't like jumping in immediately like this is this
has been dead and gone? You know, it wasn't. It

(35:27):
wasn't like that when like emostly you're not ready. I go, dude,
it had been over for years? Yes, what I mean?

Speaker 4 (35:34):
What's that freeing up conversation like this second time? Like, hey,
look at all the evidence on the internet, look at
the proof of concept.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, well, every I think everybody when you have that conversation,
it's it's not easy. Of course. The women, the woman
is going to say it sound like you're preparing for
the divorce or another divorce. The men's going to say,
prove to me you love me. For me, it's not
about the money and you. But isn't always about I

(36:04):
don't know. Just like, look, if this don't work out,
we always say you need a lawyer to get divorced,
but not to get married. I don't want to. I
don't want to go through this again. If let's just
be realistic. If it doesn't work out, this is what
you're getting. It's not like I'm saying you get nothing.
I'm saying this is what I'm willing to share with you.
And I'm listen. I am not a vindictive I'm not

(36:26):
an evil person. I would never if to be with
somebody just leave them high and dry. You know I'm
not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Do you think those two guys in New Orleans maybe
trained you to get away from the guy trying to
serve papers.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I could help. Do you think I'm just good always?
I'm just good at avoid and getting divorced for the time,
That's what I'm saying. We weren't following that like it
was on some map. Questions, all right, so Garry's in
Virginia that he was in Ohio. We were following that,
like you would not believe that was I'm serious due
the stories I got avoiding a process server. I mean

(37:04):
to being in West Virginia laying low. Was at my
buddy's house for two weeks. I was at the Four
Seasons and Baltimore for two weeks, and I just said,
just give me a balcony because I couldn't leave, but
I had to get outside somehow. I said, I just
got to step outside so I could step outside. And
then all I'm doing is uber eating and I had
close friends sending me care packages. But I was under

(37:27):
Mohammed Shabbaz, so I figured nobody would look for Gario
in there until I would order breakfast and he goes,
he wants baking an egg. Yeah, going on, let's make
sure that should be Mohammad. You're you're dyslexic, bus and
you're even bacon. Everything's backwards here. But I do remember

(37:49):
like i'd be on the road right, So she had
a little leg up because my schedules printed and I
had to get back on the road. Was going crazy.
I told my age, I told my lawyer, I get
back on the road, and I wouldn't recommend it. I said,
do you want to get paid, because you know I
can't go three months without working here. So we were
always very careful on the road. And I just remember

(38:10):
my opener was having the time of his life because
he was in the hotel was supposed to be at.
So he had the Sweet under Gary Owen And we
did it on purpose in case they were trying to
find me and put you in. I hope you never
get third. He was sending me videos he was in
the road. This is the light. He was me for

(38:34):
like three or four months. When I got Sertains, Remember
he went, you're back to a single room, single king.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
While he's in the red roof. He's a trailer park.
The fuse.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Even in Baltimore, I wasn't the Four Seasons great up,
but he was at like the Renaissance man. He was
like Baltimore, the suite inner Harbor, like I know, the
sweet he was talking about. It's like they got this
wrap round hallway and big yeah dude, he goes bro Yeah,
I got I got to become a headliner, and so
I hope this motivation.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
So BT just announced that they canceled the Hip Hop
Awards and the Soul Train Awards as an honorary member
of the Black community, Gary, how does that make you
feel knowing that the Soul Train Awards is no longer
a part of.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
The BET production. I think we stopped watching it years ago,
we did. I think that's why they sailed. That's why
they canceled it. Yeah, the ship has sailed. I mean
everything anything, everything comes to an end. Yeah, you know,
maybe not the Oscars, but only we're not watching that
like we used to. It keeps getting lesson. We're a
different age right now. I just think it's great to
talk about on your podcast. Yeah, nobody next year is

(39:46):
gonna be like, dang, we we missed the Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
And I mean once once the Hip Hop Awards stopped
doing the ciphers, which was the only reason we watched
when it was popular, it was like, what's the pointer?
And once the Soul Train Awards just started giving the
same awards the people that were getting the regular BT Awards,
VMAs and Grammys, it was like, what's the point of
the Soul Train Awards? And when you just go watch something,
you're giving the awards to the same people that are
winning the Grammys.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
And let's be honest, the editing was pretty bad on
some of them. Oh my god. There was no iconic
moments like the Motown twenty five of Michael Jackson's Food Walk,
when James Brown came out. You know, it was just
like you always watching it anymore, you're literally watching going.
They were just I remember the editing. I was like,
who's editing this? Yeah, it started. It started to look

(40:33):
really bad. Yeah, it started. And then you didn't know
what network it was on anymore, like be on TV one, Yeah,
just moving it around. What is this on t just
to buy a new package watch this? Yeah, it was time.
So we got into it.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Me and Rory got into a kind of debate last
year because Rory said, and because you're a legend in
the comedy world, Rory feels like Chris Rock isn't an
A List celebrity. He said, he feels like he's an
A List comedian, but he doesn't feel like Chris Rock
is an A List celebrity, to which I responded to

(41:08):
Worres said, Worry, I don't think you can host the
Oscars without being an A List celebrity.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
That's a good question. Maybe a minus.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I thought B and I don't think B is a
bad well as an insult to say you're a celebrity,
because to me, it's Tom Cruise and Chris Rock in
the same sentence.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
You got a point there, Denzel and Chris Rock.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Are they in the same sentence? Like, no, they're not.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
He's an A list comedian for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
I just feel like that goes the reason if you
look at his movies, they don't do that great. Okay,
you know, and this isn't a knock, but you don't
think of Chris Rock and you don't think of coming
to America, you know what I mean, You don't think
of Friday. Okay, you just like, what's is? I mean,
it's probably his famous role was Pooky New jack City.

(42:03):
You know, Chris Rock from that or anything else, but
the movies he's done and it was the Star. I
don't think you hold him in the same regard as
classic quote unquote black lead actor comedies, like he.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Didn't do Doctor Doolittle, like Eddie Murphy is an A
list actor celebrity.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
He's you know, outside of the con at Big Mama's house.
He's the Donkey and Shrek I didn't think about that,
so maybe without his face he's an A list. Wait,
I forgot about that.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
Chris Rock isn't the donkey in Shrek Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
It's Eddie Murphy. You're a liar. Yeah, what are you
talking like?

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Hold on, you're not about to make me feel No, it's.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, Eddie mur Eddie Murphy. Mike Myers,
he got so he really you really try to get
that off. Chris Rock is not a Shrek. No, that's
Eddie Murphy. Look at the No. He was in the
Animal one with uh the b movie. He was in
the Jerry Seinfeld and and that's the thing that's probably

(43:06):
his best movie. Don't do that, Chris, I Love My
Wife is great is a classic. Gary the Earth is great,
Head of State is great.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Not Chris Rock has great movies, just not A list movies,
which I feel like he would say the same thing.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, no, man, I feel like Chris Rock is a
list though, because all the A lists of that celebrities
know and love Chris Rock.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
There's a there's a lot of like just whrrores that
A listers love That doesn't make them an A lister.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think I'm on the side of Chris rockets a
less celebrity. I don't think you could host the Oscars
and not be a list.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, I just don't. I don't see them going after
B list. Okay, I think he's an a list celeb,
but I don't think he's a list as far as
like comedic actor carrying a movie. If I'm if I'm
a financier and I'm bankrolling a movie legend, this was

(44:05):
what he's saying. I'm not if you're asking me like
Eddie Murphy Chris Rock, I'm banking on Eddie Murphy. He's
not getting a green light the moment he walked he
walks into Netflix. I don't comparison to Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Absolutely, you go Eddie over Chris Rock if you Box
Office and things like that.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
So where do you cut off a list then, because
if you think about it, because a list is walking
to any network and you're there, you don't Thinkappelle's I
know what I'm saying, is even Chappelle. When you think
of comedic movies, take off Half Baked, the ones he
was the lead in. Yeah, and that's my choice, honestly. Yeah, Yeah,
that's my choice. He chose to step away. You know,
he had the Chapelle Show, which we all know. But

(44:39):
if you're like at movies, you know, I mean Chappelle's
catalog is I would similar to Chris Rock as far
as that goes. Yeah, so you probably is a way
bigger movie catalog than Chappelle does. I'm talking about the
ones we remember. Yeah, listen, I've been in duds. Yeah,
I've been in some duds. That was when I watched

(45:02):
it was what's what's your top five worst duds? Worst
being number one to five that I was in? Yeah,
I ain't in an movies held up. He's not a dud. No,
of course not held up. It was definitely not a dude.
I can't ship on because these directors like, yeah, set

(45:22):
me up work. I was dead. That's the worst. Here's
the thing I say, I say, what's the worst movie
that guy goes? I was just I was okay, Gary,
so dud. I don't mean by the quality of the movie,
similar with with held Up.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Great film, but bad timing with the politics of Hollywood, Like,
what were the ones.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
That you were like, Yo, this this was it and
it did not got shot in New Orleans. That college.
That's why I followed you. That was the one I
in line. I got done with that. I go, oh,
when's it come out? And here's what we got screwed
on that movie. We came out like a month after
super Bad, and it was dan near the same cast.

(46:08):
We had a fat guy, we had a nerd, we
had and it was a it was a coming of
age movie like super Bad, but it was three high
school kids. They go to college for the weekend and
they're like hanging out the frat. They're trying to join
the frat, but nobody knows they're in high school. We
just think they're freshmen. And so I was one of
the frat guys that was that was wild, just putting

(46:28):
them through all the ship. So I got to I
got to kind of like let go on that movie,
like Gary, just wile out, do what you want kind.
So it was it was great. I thought, this is it.
And that movie came out week one. We was tent.
I go, dang, we're ten of ten, we're in the
top ten. Pull up how much movie College made at

(46:52):
the box office. It's like two million.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Then the years past, she saw Jonah Hill and Wolf
of Wall Street. He was like, you know what, I
get it out.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
But in that movie was Haley Bennett and she hadn't
really done much and now she took off? Which one
is Haley Bennett?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Sometimes we made We made six point two The movie College,
released in two thousand and eight, had a world wide
box office grows up six point two million?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Well had he has lost seven million? So eight hundred
eight hundred thousand in the red that's yeah, a few
financi You're like, I didn't take a bath, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you could probably find the next way to get out
of that. No, Haley Bennett probably was the biggest star
out of that as far as like she took off
after that? Who's Hailey Bennett? When you see it? When
pull her up, you'll see her. She's in everything now everything.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
I hate Like now that like where Hulu and Netflix
will just like buy old movies that will end up
on your queue and you start seeing stars now that
I'm like, how this person was in this fucking.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Like Bradley Cooper and Wedding Crashers. You're like, what you
forgot he was in that. I mean he was a
star in that ship. But look at her Eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Denzel movie. She's worked with everybody. Now, yeah, what's the
Denzel one where he was the cowboy and Chris Pratt?
Oh uh, what the fuck is the name of that?

(48:12):
She's always got big roles in movies, but she's the one,
you know, she's like luckiest man in America.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I mean, I think the kids from the sixth cent
crushed Happy Gilmore too. He did well, don't do listen.
I liked him in the Entserage movie as well.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I did too, No, he was he was really good
in the Usage movie. I just feel like with Adam
Sandler's casting abilities, maybe we could have found somebody else. Yeah,
I think so, Garret.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
It came out the other day that Tiffany had it
and Jason Lee had have a baby.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I think that it's a lie. I think we did
the same one. We did the same thing four years ago.
Pull up Tippy Nassy, Gary Awen. We held two babies
of them and said we just had twins together.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
So you're suggesting that, I'm telling your watch watch pull
up me in tiff and we're holding babies.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Boom take idea like this, So you're pretty much come
up with that.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Jason you're calling him Carlos Menci is what you're saying. Yeah,
we even put like we was lying. We just held
up like surprising everybody. Yeah, you know, I have a
huge in outphant so happy to share with you guys.
He has our proud parents of twin girls. We have
to take it long enough.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, I just I didn't even Common, which is crazy
at Common. Sorry you had to find out this way.
But love is love.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
And also those are like new those are like newborns,
like maybe Common would have did you manifest this to
then have twins?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Power? The power of words. Man, you have twins?

Speaker 5 (49:42):
You know what balls a twin?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yes, I have twin sister. I was glad you said
that because I was about say identical. I hate what
people say that you're a twin, Like, yeah, it's my
sister identical. Yeah, no, it can't. It doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
That's possible, by the way, because you hate transgender issues
and that can never happen to the worst.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I really want to get the show. Oh my god,
make a decision. What just you can't have both?

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I mean, depending on the porn you're into, I think again,
depending on the president. What's uh, what's been fatherhood like
at this age because our manager Benner has how old
is Grayson now?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Twelve? Yeah? So he had a daughter.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
He thought he was done done and his son was
ten and he had a daughter and was like fuck.
Him and his wife were both sitting there like, oh gosh,
I don't know for.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
This ship is so easy with the nanny. Oh great,
oh my god, nanny, I could have forty kids. Yeah,
this ship is. People say, what's the like, I got nanny, bro,
it's easy.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
There's another mom raising this whole ship.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
Yeah ship Nan yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, either crying nanny
time to feed him Nan every week when her money
comes out of my account, money well spent.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
I don't ever say, oh she's that much, that was
worth it. No, it really is with a nanny, And
that sounds so bad. My ex not when she found
I got a nanny. I saw at the airport about
a year ago, and we're cordial, we're cool. And I said,
I guess you know I got twins right, and she
is yeah I heard, And I was like, you want

(51:27):
to see them? She just no, I said I know
you do, So I just pulled it out.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Is this a morning flight? Like paint?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
The picture of Alta the Cincinnati. Why was we on
the same flight. That's a wild flight, That's what I
was thinking. Atlanta Cincinnati is a weird flet. So I
showed her and she sees this white arm and this
white leg and clearly it's a female armed female leg,
and I don't realize it's it's that she's in the picture.
She goes, who's that? And I go to nanny. She goes,

(51:53):
you have a nanny. Even nanny. She goes, we have
a nanny. I said, you may me at the wrong time. Yeah, yeah,
life is good like a man too. Yeah, Josh, do
we have a voice, Mescal? You have got mail?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
So we have people that listen to our show, call in,
ask for advice, tell us stories, you know, just the
way to close our show, which is usually entertaining because
our our listeners live way crazier lives than we do.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
To stay legedly, yeah, it's all I mean, it could
just allegedly.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
It could be a bit. What's up? Mom, demiriag ry
love the show. Everything y'all doing now.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
I've been talking to this girl at my job for
about two months, three weeks and three days. We smashed
twice during this time. We text and talk on face
time and even go to sleep on face time.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Here and there.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
But we've never gone out, not to the movies, out
to eat, bowling, top golf, nothing. Anytime I try to
set up a date, she always got an excuse like
trying to find babysit somewhere in mom's Daycad's always celemin.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Every time, like excl shit, but whatever.

Speaker 8 (53:01):
So I haven't spent any money on her per se,
but I have sent her some money on two occasions,
which total about one hundred dollars, just like a you know,
kind just because we're talking or whatever it seems like
to me on the side nigga. Now, I don't have
a problem with that, but if that's what it is,
I kind of want her to just say that. Does

(53:25):
it sound like I'm a side nigga to y'all? And
should I say something to her about it? Because for
the most part, I'm cool with that. But I think
my feelings starting to get a bit more involved, and
I'm not trying to overstep my balance, sir.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I think she's trying to figure out if you're going
to murder her in her sleep? Was like a perfect woman,
Are you the zodiac. That was amazing. I don't know
who she is. She's amazing. She doesn't bother me, she
don't ask dolls, we don't go out. Yeah, you're trying

(54:02):
to cause a problem, whether it isn't one. What is
the problem is here? Brom? Oh my god, dude, if
you see the messages I get got it was never
one hundred dollars.

Speaker 9 (54:17):
Oh my god, dude, it's so like he wrote me
down and was reading that. Hey man, we smashed had
two times work. You know, she's on the white rice,
I'm on the brown rice. Sometimes we mix, you know,
they'd be like extra guacamole.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I just put it in there. I don't even charge people.
You know that added up to one hundred dollars. Yeah,
said they fucked three times at three thirty three pm.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
What getting We've been together for two months, three weeks
and you got it down to that.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Like I felt like all I got that call was
it's you. Yeah, it's the problem. It's you. Yeah, man,
you got the problem.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Even if you are the side, dude, play your part, man.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
But I don't think he's the side dude. I think
she I don't think she has to, dude. I think
you see a multiple dudes that was like, oh no,
I can't tell that story. Please please get all right,
we have we have a theme here that everything was
seven years ago and it didn't happen at this time.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
I could be fortunate.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I'm not going to name names. I had a friend
that was sleeping with a girl that was also sleeping
with a very very well known athlete. And he goes talk.
He goes, man, I just found out my girl was
sleeping was so and so he goes, dang.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
I go, I go.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
That that's not your girl, that's his girl. You know,
if you have the side, you have the side. So
let's not get this straight. That dude is not sleeping
with your girl, you're with his girl. Because I said,
if he dies, it's on ESPN, there's a high school
gymnasium named after him, and the funeral old will be

(56:00):
live stream.

Speaker 9 (56:02):
If you.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Facebook post if you're lucky thirteen comments, I.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Fucking hate you. Gary would say that I'll just make
it any up. The story sounds better if I make
a name up. So let's say, like, you think somebody's dead.
I don't want to World Chamberlain like, yeah, I just
found out my man, I just found out everybody my girls.
Will Chamberlain he goes, you know, and I was like, girl, no, no, no, no, no,

(56:31):
you're sleeping World Chamberlain's girl. Don't ever get that twisted.
I was like, that's just the truth. Yeah, yeah, that's
his girl. He's sharing his girl with you. I was
looking a him like this, you think it's really highly yourself.
Just be happier in the midst And even if that's
not Will Chamberlain's girl, that's still not your girl. Still

(56:52):
not really good.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
That's Wilt Chamblain's o.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
That's not your girl. That range Rover didn't come from you,
but definitely he told me. I was like, oh, he's
breaking her off. She was this lifestyle for a reason.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
All Gary, your special your YouTube specials out now? Yeah
no s Gary Owen, no s you at the City
Winery here in New York this weekend already sold out.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
This is Gary we're talking about. Well I sold out
old is uh? I used to add shows. I had
like midnight shows, we had afternoon shows. Now they'd be
like want to one yeah, three o'clock. So the so
I did. I went the City Winers feagain. Right, so
we we get Friday Saturday. We started with four, then

(57:43):
we added a fifth on Saturday and they go, hey,
do you want to do Sunday? I was like, yeah,
I went to the website, go where we're gonna put it.
They go two o'clock. I was like, you know, I
got a freaking brunch show but sold out. We'll take it.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
We did.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
We did the Houston impro for a live show for
our pod. Right, So we were in Dallas the night before,
three of us did the show. We got off stage
at I don't know after meet and greets and everything,
like fucking one am. After we left the green room,
and we found out from our agent and team that
we had a noon show host in Houston, Houston Improv.

(58:20):
So we went back to the hotel, grabbed our luggage
and prove and yeah, car service came picked us up
all three and a half. Right, It's not bad, dude, Yeah,
but we wasn't a podcast show and is the worst
thing that could ever exist Houston Improv. I'm not a
stand up comic.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
If we were doing a podcast at noon, just on
stage on stage, how does that work? Guys? Just ask
you questions stuff? No, No, we have like a variety show.
We have like a whole variety.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Actually pride ourselves. I think we do have the best
live podcast show by far. I think eighty five South
is up there as well. Yeah, we have a great show.
Thank God. Somebody at the meet and greet, which by
the way, was at ten thirty am, meeting before. Yes,
I'll do it after because usually we go on stage late,
so sometimes if people are going from work, maybe they'll

(59:08):
miss the you know, seven thirty eight, and then we'll
do it after. So we did all of them at
ten thirty in the morning, and then God found out
somebody that was currently cheating on his girl, so we facetimed.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
On stage. Yeah, what happened?

Speaker 5 (59:24):
She forgave Oh yeah, she was like yo. It was
kind of weird how it.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Was like she was like yo, you know, I know
he was cheating.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
He was like yo, I'm sorry, Oh my god. On
the air. Yeah. Yeah. It was on stage at the
Houston Empro a while.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, but it was no, it was his idea because
I went into the crowd after he told us that
in confidence obviously at the meet and greet, and when
I saw him at the table, I was like, well,
do you want a FaceTime her because he was he
was supposed to go with her and then just disappeared
and ended up cheating.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
It hadn't been home yet. He was saying he was
in the day for the whole night, because yes, he
left the girl's crib and went to our meeting. Yeah,
and he was supposed to go with her. He had
a plus one. He was at the tape by himself.

Speaker 10 (01:00:03):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Yeah, it was going on unpacked there. Yeah it was.
It was cool though. It made for a great conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah, I bet Garyow and Nos available on YouTube now
sold out the City Winery. Gary Man, thank you. It's
a pleasure of meeting you. Benefit of yours for years.
Love everything that you're doing and held up is a classic.
Don't let nobody else anything different?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Great? Yeah, I love that movie. Can you get Maul
to sing the John Legend song that's at the end
of Think Like a Man? He does. He does the
best John Legend impression of all time. I think it's
the best way. I don't know that song two nights.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Then it said like you couldn't escape that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Give it to us. I don't want I don't want
to brug He sounds like I'll be do you like
John Legend? Yeah, I got a funnytory John Legend here.
I would love to hear it. He uh he he.
I like John Legend lot don't get I do too.
But they're started to starting saying called the Macy's Music Fest,
and it's like they bring all these huge artists in
and it's a big festival. It's like it would be

(01:01:00):
like six A list R and b artists. Right. Well,
since Johnson Springfield saay night, he was the last one
to go up. They put him up after Charlie Wilson.
So Charlie Wilson went up there and just is crushing, right,
and then he goes up there and be like.

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
You know, I was on crack, but God delivered there
his name and Mama's just crying and he's like, you know,
then I try to go. It's like me, John Lezard
just walks out, sits at a piano.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
That was like this. I understand he's probably the bigger name,
but sometimes you know, you gotta read.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
After talking about crack and then ending with outstanding, it's very.

Speaker 11 (01:01:47):
Tough to like the biggers are getting blown out and
you can see the cars of the bridge just sleep,
and I was like this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
I saw that two times. I saw that with John
Legend and Charlie Willson. And then I saw Fantasia Robin
Thick at the Tom Joiner fam reunion and their managers
were literally dang there arguing backstage who should go last?
And I'm hosting the show and I'm sitting her going
if I'm Robin Thick's manager, I'm not fighting this, let

(01:02:18):
go last. Yes. So Fantasia's out there, She's got her
lip doing yeah, kicking the shoes off, shoes off, swim
in the audience. People are getting saved. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:02:29):
I'm like, what is going on? And then she just
gets off again. The crowd's crying and it comes Robin
walking to the piano. You know what I mean, like this,
Oh my god, it's just the energy levels different.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Then you can't see it. Here's what's funny. Two years later,
I got another show, Robin Thick. We're in Baton Rouge.
Of all, they were in Baton Rouge. I let's use
campus in Valentine's Day. He must have learned from that Fantasa.
He was trying to dance. One point he got on
the piano. Oh, he learned something from Fantasia's Hilarious. It

(01:03:06):
was me, Robin Thick and John B. It was like, wait,
put this together? But why so? And I love John B.
That is the sickest lineup audience. I have to meet
that promoter and shake his hand. That is the funniest
line up, Valentine, that rush, get ready.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
If you didn't think it was what, we got you
out of jump, If you put that whipped cream on
vanilla ice cream, we got gary on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
If you did not want to tell your family you're
dating a black woman.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Then when came oh my god, that's I'm that nigga.
He's just Jing Garrett. Thank you, my brother. Thanks