Checking In With The Kid Mero

Rory and Mal check in with The Kid Mero to clown NYC Mayor Eric Adams, reflect on how the podcasting game has changed, and discuss the current state of Hip-Hop. #volume

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's crazy. Did you get to hear that?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
He on the Lloyds ship beats. Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Oh no, I saw like I saw him at Prudential
the other day and I was like, damn, I've never
seen this amount of white people saying the word nigga.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Like like, no, I went to the Kanye West late
I was a late registration tour which one has gold
Digger on it.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Oh late regifre late registration, I think right.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I went to that tour at the Garden and Kanye
said on stage, Hey, white people, this is your one
night you're allowed to say the N word. And when
I say it was the loudest I'd heard anybody wrap
along to.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
A song in my life. That's when we don't stream
that louder. That's what they paid for. They wanted to
say that. Yeah, all right, we are back on a
new episode today. We are joined by somebody that I
felt we was only we felt like we met each other.
So first I'm actually meeting each other where Actually, uh,
we went to the same high school, not at the
same time.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think he went a year after I did.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
But a Bronx native writer, comedian podcast the TV host actor, the.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
Kid merrow is.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Thank you nearly after this, my fellow Bronx, my fellow
Bronx legend, how you feeling man?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The building? You went to Clinton? I went to Clinton. Yea,
I went in in ninety seven. I got in ninety seven.
I graduate. I'm Class of old one, Class one.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm trying to I was trying to figure out if
that made me dumb or not. I was just four
years I got go right. You from the Heights though
I was born in the Heights and then moved to
the Bronx all over like kings Bridge, Treemont Castle Hill
one seventy four.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
On Tremont Castle Hill. You're a Bronx baby, Yeah, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Sunday from the Bronx career. I'm for them. And you
know this.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Is why I said I'm taking a back seat on
this episode the Bronx cast. Y'all can catch up. Figure.
I'm sure y'all have cousins.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Don't even know.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm more than sure we got cousins.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
But it's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You're Puerto Rican.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yes, I'm Querto Rican, which is but I've never I've
never met Meryl Man. And it's funny because we literally
from the same area, never never met you.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Do you know those one of our situations probably like
were you in the same building as somebody but you.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Moving with your people moved exactly what happened.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
I'm sure we was in the same lobby at some point.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe, Joe, Yeah,
my name is Jimmy. This is my whole boy in.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
The Big Crown Heights. Like, yo, what the fuck you police?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean what well? Eric Adams brought us all together today.
It's now finally he could unify after years.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
If you guys not, you know, like I feel like
as podcasts, we can kind of gauge when we feel
like we see somebody like he's about to get a podcast.
Eric Adams is next, and he's next up in the
queue of person that's about to have a podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Him and Shaney Sharp is on the phone right now.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Trying to figure it out together.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
That's how he gonna roll it out Club shad Ship Club,
and then he's gonna announce his own Eric Adams is
to me, he's the one person that if you don't
think you're living in a simulation, look at Eric like
you can catch him glitching sometimes and it's like, Yo,
this is definitely none of this is real.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Dog.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
All this ship that he says sounds like it could
be like a skit on a rap album from the nineties.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Absolutely like and said.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
He should should He's gonna be on a new Smack
EVD Like that's right, you know, don't go to.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
But it is so crazy seeing Eric Adams, Like anytime
I'm like, bro, this is the mayor.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Bro, the mayor of New York City.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
He should not be smoking hookah with THEMS.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know what I'm saying, Mayo Coney Island, if you
the mayor, If this was what it was, it was
it was a political sit down, it was diplomatic community.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
He was mad about bike lanes and ship like that them.
You know what I'm saying, But what the are you
talking about?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Literally, they're about to get rid of Coney Island. I'm
sure it wasn't born of once? Is this a real
Eric Adams tweet?

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Deep down, I think I must be a little bit
Dominican because.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We all are in the summer, marching.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Down Sixth Avenue and the Dominican Day Parade just felt
like coming home. Every time I meet Dominican New Yorkers.
I'm inspired by the generosity and then their jobs by
that path. Yeah, he's never been he's never been on
Sherman in Naked. I was like, this side he said,
this was twenty they'll short you quick on the haze
up there.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
At least he toned it down when he went to
Far Rockaway. He got there and was like, y'all used
to fuck man bitches out here. Yeah, that was crazy, Surety.
I'm like, bro, you talk like a mayor, the mayor politicians.
This is what I seen. You feel is relatable, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Like, I think he's trying to do that because he's
trying to be too related New York. He's trying to,
you know, show that he's really from here and you
know he grew up here. But it's like, it's a
way to do that. It's a way to do that organically. Man,
Well you're not forcing it. Be like I shouldn't see
I shouldn't see the mayor doing pull ups on the
don't walk side. When I open up my phone, it's like, bro,
we don't need you don't got to be that New York.

(05:31):
Do you say that's a New York thing. But you
don't got to be doing that. You could be clapping
wall doesn't my cousin.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's cool.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
You're doing it yourself in the Brooks Brothers shirt, bro,
Or then he was in not Wrinkle Joint.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
You just off your iPhone speaker in your pocket playing
come on, like, just put a yacky head on sip
behind on plate and call it a day.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
That's all what New York used to do. At this point,
everybody's doing bread deals now. Every guy is a fair idea.
Do a brand deal with next tel Church, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
I feel like, Bro, Eric Adams is a chirp guy
to speak, do a real New York business over the chirp.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Like, Yo, y'all, I need twenty two shirts, Bro, how
long we've been saying T shirts, y'all gotta stop.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
I need twenty T shirts.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
They don't know, and they don't know what that means.
They're coming. They're gonna lock all of y'all up.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Man, Listen. Buzzby definitely is plotting on a whole rico
for Eric Adams. I'm not saying it'll be true or
not because it's Buzby. Some Hansy Ship. Of course, bro,
he was.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
He was Fox News is gonna run the headline touching
titties in Turkey. They love alliteration. They're gonna go with that.
He did something in Turkey. He didn't get a headline.
He was out there grabbing titties. Something fucked up on
a Cuomo timing. Bro like just bugging now. But I
think Fox News may adopt Eric Adams. I think that
might be the movie. He might go full Republican.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
He might doing the podcast. They might do it with
Tubby Carlson. List was on Fox.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Is that yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
But like, damn not that Fox. Remember Street Soldiers like, yeah,
here's Community News.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
I was like, yeo, this is crazy. Black people are wilding.
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
What the fuck?

Speaker 6 (07:11):
That's the story?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, yeah, this is in the hood trying to get
in the apartment. You can't come in here.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
She was DM and everybody like, hey, can I get
a comment on the shooting at Irving Plaza.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I was like, no, I fucking know everyone, Yeah, yeah, no,
I would not like, actually I'm glad.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
To here, yo, so merrow.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
We now that we're all in this, We're all in
this podcasting world. I guess how much has it changed
for the better and for the words as far as
you're concerned, because you were you, You've had television shows,
You've had you know, podcasts, Shout out to seven pm
in Brooklyn, y'all doing your things, shout out the mellow.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
And cast as well, and shout the cast as well.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
But how much is change for the better and for
the worst from your perspective, Like, because you've been doing this.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
For a while. Yeah, man, I mean y'all too, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Like this is like this is like the NBA TV
like nineties, Like, Yo, who is the best rebound this Isaiah?

Speaker 6 (08:13):
This is automatic sitting down, apologize, like.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Not to hold resentments and try to be objective.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yo, this is in reality, Like you know, back then
it was like there wasn't such a saturation, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Like now it's like everybody.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
And then mother got a fucking podcast and to stand out,
you gotta do something either astely. You got to have
like a gimmick, or you gotta have like you know
what I'm saying, Like there's like a or it has
to be something really really well.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
But you got to do TV now some time podcast.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
So that's what I learned is it's like from going
from like legacy TV network Ship, where everything is just
like yo, you know what I mean, Like every crossy
t's die your eyes, you know what I mean. Apply
that to podcasts and you'll stand out, you know what
I'm saying. Like I watched Ship and it's like the
TV show like I know, we men if it's names.
Remember Howard Stern had to show on E Yeah he

(09:03):
had the radio ship popping and he had the TV
show and it was just like even as a kid,
I was.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like, bro, like this is yah.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean, this is fucking brilliant, bro.
So you double different. So like it from the.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Entertainment vibes with sex boogie e yoo, Who's entertainment?

Speaker 7 (09:20):
Who surely got achieving it? You know, six models watching
all of that.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
But you know, watching all of those shows growing up,
it was always a sense of having your own camera mike,
you know, interview, going around the community, talking to random people.
And now what we're doing with podcasts and I guess
it's an iteration of that in some sense, but it
has to be on a grander scale now to kind
of separate yourself, right.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I mean I felt like TV even took the podcast
model to some degree. So it's just a podcast, Like,
this is not a sports show. It just happens to
be on TV. You're doing a sports podcast most.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Of those shows and that said ship Like I told
them all the time, I'm like, bro, this is a
TV show. It just happens to be on YouTube. And like, bro,
I got four kids. Like my kids, We used to
come home and be like yo, channel five, channel seven,
like yo, family, Mattter is on whatever. Booooo man whatever.
Now my kids come home and hit the YouTube, bugging
on the remote.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Remote. Don't even got fucking numbers on it no more.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
So I'm like, yo, how are the executives setting up
there being like yo, we're got to figure out how
to revamp TV. I'm like, bro, you still talking about
Channel twenty eight when that shit hasn't been a thing
for ten years, you know what I'm saying. So, like
TV and the digital shit has kind of like bled
into each other a little bit, to your point of
like TV is trying to be a little bit more
casual and podcasts are trying to be a little bit

(10:39):
more polished, you know, what I'm saying, and it's like
now we're in a weird space where it's just like
y'all can fuck around and hit up, like Yo, Netflix,
I want a license to shit to y'all, you know
what I mean, and then keep this shit going here
like like what Pat McAfee is doing with ESPN's It's like, Yo,
I got my shit, I built my shit. People know
who I am, people know who y'all are. You got audience,

(11:00):
and then you just leverage that ship, you know, get
a little brand deal and we just we just.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Like we already we need some more light. It used
to be my night light, but I'm in the studio.
Light in the room is boost my morale, you know,
wake up.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Like it's a demo on it if you don't want
to like to you know, t.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
A little bit your chip home after a little Boots signed,
you know what time to give you a boost?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Suits and Citrus like morning, yeah, Roger Sean.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Exactly boost. We need a raise for that free ad
we just.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Gave youse got to be released. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
So now you have a podcast as a New Yorker,
how does it feel having a podcast with Mellow Man?
Because I mean, as a you know, as a true
New Yorker that has to be like kind of like
what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Like the title though, Yeah, well it was crazy because
like that was that was one of the things I
was just like, but it was you know, it's like
they like, you know, when you want to build something
like you know, that's that's a they would try to
basically waivers. It's like, yo, we're trying to build a
brand that's not like stuck to like a person like

(12:20):
y'all are individual brands like together and on youall own.
But like they didn't want to do that with in
Mellow's case because it it makes it so that like
you can't build that world out, you know what I'm saying,
Like if you bring somebody else. At first season one,
it was just me in. So it's just like it's
we started there and then you start to build out
the world. Cast comes in, Monica comes in, Rudy comes in.

(12:42):
Now it's like a cast, you know what I mean.
And it's it's I always say it like it's like
kind of like the Bodigga Boys. But y'all know, man,
like the podcast world Bro. Digital Entertainment is mad parasocial
Bro and like you either lean into it and get
paid or you're like nah, and like you try your
best to do what you can do. But at the

(13:02):
end of the day, people all interested in what y'all
have to say, you know what I'm saying, Like, y'all
are very prepared. You, I mean, you got to run
a show. This is not a vibefest, right, you know
what I mean. I feel like a lot of to
the other point of like how has it changed? I
feel like a lot of motherfuckers just think, Yo, we're
gonna get some mic system cameras and we're just gonna
go up there and be.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like, Yo, so what's up? Yeah, Rory what you do
on Saturday?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
And it's like, bro, Noah, Like people want to hear
what I want to say about music, pop culture and
you know myself. So I'm like, all right, this is
what we're gonna do. We gotta come. We're gonna sit
a week ahead of time. We're gonna talk about, Yo,
what do y'all want to talk about? All I bet
closest to the days taping, we refine that document, you
know what I'm saying, and then we go through it
like you know, but like we go there's a structure,

(13:44):
but this is also that that looseness of like y'all
were just hanging out.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's not too coo.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, if you go left and go left, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yo, Bro, Cat Williams up there talking about I beat
all you niggas in basketball, I'll race.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
I was like, Yo, this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I was like, Bro, I'm forty two and I used
to be an athlete. I was like, all my body
parts are sucked up. And then I got hit my
card stabb didn't properly take care of anything, like ended
up at chakobe a lot.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
It was like that was just before your conciera.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Do you feel me?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That was like I was I was thirteen.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Yeah, like yo, and and you know Jacoby, Bro, they bro,
you could get shot.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
You wait when that motherfucker waiting room you go in there, Yo,
here's some motrim bro. Peace, peace be with you. I'm like, bro,
this is crazy.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
I'm like, I got hit my fucking for brother, the ship,
the old school drink, and then I went to my
family doctor.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
He was just like, Yo, here's some perks. Motherfucker. I was.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I was like this is what I needed.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
This will do it, this, this will work.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
I can walk again and went off and I'm like, yeah,
because when you get by a Bronco, but it's in
your whole body, not just one like.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
A hip or something.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yo.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
And the doctor was like, yo, it was a Bronco
because that ship.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Hits you and you just went like that exactly like
if it would have been cific that ship.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
So, by the grace of guy, we hear you know
what I'm saying, and my ADHD made me.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Forget what the fuck I ever feel like adding people
like you because I'm not saying Mellow. Obviously Melo's good
at his job in that regard, but not everyone, with
podcasting being oversaturated, is running to be like Mellow will
have the best opinions ever. So having somebody decades into
this shit is because we saw what's up Megan Markle

(15:26):
what's her name? Ye most famous chick ever for a
year so Peach can get more views. That hurts right
now from his laptop and those cell phones. Just because
your famous doesn't mean you're interesting. We went to Spotify.
Amy Schumer biggest comic, dud and entertaining and funny I'm
not saying, but Michelle Obama sort of famous, like we know, no, right,
you would think that that would make sense on paper,

(15:48):
that Michelle Obama's pop flopped flop.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
I'm like, Yo, what do people really listen to podcasts for?
Like I know us like our community is like yo,
I want to laugh, bro, you know what I'm saying.
I'm over here likes an oven gold turkey with one
airpot in Like I ain't. I'm just count down a
minute so I get the fuck out of here. I'm
trying to laugh. Bro, I'm trying to you know what,
what what the fuck?

Speaker 6 (16:10):
What's the opinion on is Joey badass ship?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Like I want to hear that because that's what I'm
talking about with with my people.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
I think it's a certain language that we're able to
speak because certain people use celebrity famous, but you still
don't speak the language of the people that are probably listening.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Or living reality for that matter. That part, that's the
whole thing.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's like, bro, you beat like fam like I'm so
glad that, like you know, I got kids and ship
and I got like bills to pay and shit like that,
Cause that should have you focused on, like, Yo, this
is what I gotta do so you don't get distracted
with like the oh Yo, I'm gonna be cool to
go over here, but with this motherfucker, Yo, flick it up,
cause it's like, Bro, there's so much of that that
it's just like, Bro, what if this result.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
Of me getting paid you know what I'm saying, Like
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Or adding value to what the fuck I'm already doing,
you know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to
be dollars, but it's like value, bro, meaning like am
I more visible now?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Like am I am I on a.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Billboard somewhere where somebody's gonna be like Yo, I don't
know this dude, but like I'm gonna check him out,
you know what I mean. Like the gifts, bro, Like
there's so many gifts of me and I was on purpose.
I would tell like production on every show I've ever
been on, Like yo, if y'all doing social ship and
gifts like yo, I talk.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
On my hands, I'm mad animated. I'd say a lot
of wild ship.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Just clip everything bro, and bro, people will approach you
in them all and be like Yo, nigga, you and
my group chack crazy, like what you be.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
Doing and I'm like, what it's crazy?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I just do mean just.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Gifts, gifts, reactions, reactions, I.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Missed the group check, that's it.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I do a customer one hundred dollars right now, right now.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
It's like, it's like freak cameo. I'm not down back that.
You know what I'm saying. We're not down bad. We're
not doing cameo yet, you know what I'm saying, but.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You know what I'm saying. Never know. I'm like, we
had a cameo for a little bit and it started
to feel nasty. It was like I'd be in my
d MS and if somebody wants a happy birthday, I'll
usually just do the video for free. This feels gross
now if she hits the fan and my two year
old needs to eat all.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
Day dot com backslash, this is what happy birthday to
your Yeah, sixth birthday, Hey eighty six, don't mean you
ain't got it.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Eighty six you still take the Jamiel I understand because
we did it like for me maybe a week and
I was like, bro, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I was doing that already, like four people for free.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
You know what Robinson, the famous Smoking Robinson cameo where
he the two kids had smoking Smoky was their mother's
favorite artist and she grew up across the street from him,
and I guess he didn't know that, so they had
Smokey do a cameo.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
But sure he was Jewish and it was hanikah. So
he's like, I want.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
To wish uh uh miss a happy chanookah.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's what the volume on.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Surprise Surprise. You didn't expect to hear from me, But
I was contacted by your sons, Jeff and Chaerir, and
they wanted me. They told me that you used to
live in Detroit, across the street from me, and gosh,
that's that's beautiful.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
How are you doing again?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I was talking to you again, I guess, But anyway,
you're living in Dankuga now. And they wanted me to
wish you happy chanookah. I have no idea what chanookah is,
but they said anyway, God bless your babe and enjoyed chanookah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And George George, wait all right, ask somebody is a
devout Irish Catholic that was in a no child left
behind program. Can you pull up how hanukahs really spelled?
Because I might have said the same day.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
No, no, no, it is h right, bro, It's spelled
like eight different ways, Okay, like I.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Might have done the exact same fucking thing, like that
should be fucking me that way.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Now I'm having a how is spelled?

Speaker 5 (20:14):
This is like the K and Chick fil a because okay,
now that's how I'm used to seeing it, right, But I.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Do know DH one under it? Is it spelled?

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah A Jewish lady, I'm like, I'm clocking it now.
It is Jewish.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Now.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Look, I've seen the ch as well before.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
I've seen that spelling before, but I've definitely seen the
h a spelling as well.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
So now which one? Which one is correct? Smokey might
not be wrong if they sent it because you know,
like with cameos, they'll put like certain things like there's
a list. Yeah, so if they spelled it that way, yeah,
I'm I'm sounding it out like I was.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
It's one of the greatest songwriters of all time. He
can spell, he can pronounce, like he can read like.
Smokey isn't wrong here like me ever, down is wrong.
You're on a fantastic viot like h. Then Smokey isn't
wrong and that's why he's said I don't even know
what Chanooka is. Now, if you would have put ah,
he would have said, Honika. He knows. I'm more than positive.

(21:13):
Smokey Robinson has Jewish friends, like he knows what. But
if Smokey gets c h A, he's gonna say Chanooka.
So Smokey is not wrong. We gotta get the legs
of Smokey Robinson.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
A pat Chanooka sounds like a town in Long Island.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I've never seen that video before. It is the first
of all I seen that. I was like, all right,
I was like every time I'm depressed, we're gonna hear.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
I don't even know what Chanooka is. He's enjoyed.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Hey, what happened? Nigga?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Like the energy and that ship was just like hey,
i gotta listen thirteen of these motherfuckers. I'm on number twelve.
I'm about to bran it. Yeah, I never saw that,
but like to your point, like, I'd rather if somebody's
in this like I just did this ship like some
dudes just like yo, and I'm just like, bro, what's
your name.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You know what I'm saying, He's just like, Yo, my
name is Quas. I was like, wow, wow name Qua.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Yeah, but I'm just like yo, and I'm like, yo, bro,
I'm doing mixtape drops.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Some niggas with no mixtapes.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Like, I'm just like bro, because like at the end
of the day, people come up to you and be like, yo,
I don't want to bother this that the third I
see you out, I'm like, fam, I'm off for five
hundred milligram edible shopping for jeans.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Any You're not bothering me at all, Like this is
actually great.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I was like, this is great because now the salesperson
is like, all right, they stop following me around the
store now exactly.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Somebody people know who this guy. Now I'm thinking this
is a great way to steal. Now I pretend like
I've never met you, yr picture the more going around
and stuff and jeans jeans. Man, I got these.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
Fleet doc I love with two cost blocker sets.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
We should whole chinooka series like the Three of Us.
Let's do it like the original Jews. Definitely celebrate that Chanukah.
For sure, we can do it. On the we can
do it on two fifth with the Israelite the Black.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
The Blacks were like, bro, that original man original, the original.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Hilarious bro, because every got us put like yo, I
got the support to George and he yo, bro he
put He's like, yo, I got all these rabbis on deck.
But he put like a list of rabbis and him
and one of them was like a black israel Like
he just suit that motherfucker in there.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Like one of them was a childless I'm like, yo, this.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Nigga is just throwing hell. Mary's brother just trying to care.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He doesn't read it before.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
He's like, Brook might be the gooka who go, you
might need we might need to open the.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Bluts.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
My rabbi Blacks were like, we didn't shake. Come on, baby,
that's it. You remember an episode of Curb with the
chicken making this should happen. This is the ideation station
right absolutely.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
By the way, everything we say is copywriting because it's
been recorded. You told the story a very long time ago,
but there's always new fans. And I do want Hugh
to tell Merrill the time you almost got jumped by
seventy five bloods. The Bronx God.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Oh, the same exact ship happened to me, but it
was like graffiti related, right, So it was just like
bronsss Brooklyn on the graffiti ship, like and I went
my man Taze, who was like the U n of graffiti.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
That nigga knows everybody.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
So we walking, we get off, like I've seen that
tag before because that is everywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, so yeah, he's like, y'ao, he's one of these
niggas like, y'o, what's up? Where is he?

Speaker 8 (24:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good. Y'all shorty over there. You
know what's good? Baby? You know what I'm saying, Like, y'all.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Super smooth like Misch type of dude. Bro.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
We walking down. This is back in the old j days.
You know what I mean, choice whatever, yo, Mama, do
come through an experience, bro. Stopping at We're stopping at
posts and then we're going around. Now we're going to
down down to Ludlow whatever. You turn the tables upside down,
the pianos whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Bro, we get in the fucking we get in the
fucking car. We smoke it on the way there. Boom,
we get out the car.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
My man Nce he's like seven the idiot dude and
the crew that just does ship just to do it.
He jumps out the car. There's two dudes holding hands
walking down the street for no reason. Now homophobia, not
just it could have been a dude in it could
have been an elephant walking down the street. Just jumped
out of the car, just said they faced bro. Like right here.

(25:31):
I was like, this is how we saw tonight. Like
I think there was a Blundy excursion, bro, Like some
ship was going down. So now were walking towards like
fourteen like Uni Square whatever coffee shop over there.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I do that was bot end of the legendary spot.
Legendary spot. So I'm going over there. I'm yo, I'm
gonna getus all free drinks. I got us.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
We start walking and there's another group of motherfuckers with
the Steve text and the whole shit and the grills
and the chick.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I was like Brooklyn. I was like, oh man, I
was like I feelt like Brooklyn. He was like Brooklyn niggas.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
It was like they're refeting niggas because they got the
no Fisher but bronxtigs bruh.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And I recognized him. I was like, oh, that's this one.
That signed on that sign. One and one of them dudes,
I ain't gonna say his name.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
He used to come to the Bronx just to write
fuck the Bronx, like and go over people and be
like fuck the Bronx and I pussy this that.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
It's crazy, how that's that's that was a real that's
a real level of disrespect like that, like was started
like your whole burrow.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
So I was just like, oh man, Like I was like,
I'm counting the man. I'm like, I was like eight
of us, it's like fourteen of them. I'm like, man,
I'm gonna start throwing garbage cans.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
I'm already thinking like you, I'm gonna start like like sets.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, I'm gonna throw a bound when you catch throw
it back, I'm the pipe come out.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
I'm not gonna go like that.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Everything in your mind you think I was going to
everything with my jacket over my head, nigga in a puddle.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And by the way, throwing a trash in for it
does not do the damage. There's no damage nothing, that
means nothing.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Generation you can't just throw projectile that doesn't doesn't do anything.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Yeah, and also eating an apple that you find on
the street. It's not gonna never come back, give you
up and.

Speaker 9 (27:07):
Tight hold chicken and you found in the garbage on
the plattern't work.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
So we walk in and ship and tas of course,
you know smooth man, He's just like.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Y'all, let's what up my nigger.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
And I was just like, oh ship, Thank fucking god.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
One other dude is like yo tags boa then same
ship yo yo.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's like a game yo yo yo yo yo man
yo we yo yo.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
We'd be tc cake no.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Back then.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I drop over there now and I'm just I just
shake my head. I'm like, yo, if y'all only knew
what this looked like maybe twenty five years ago, I'm.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Like, fam it was and it was talking about people
talk about New York is a melting pot. Back then
down there was really a melting pot, bro, because I
end up in spots like Manitoba that's like a straight
hardcore metal head club and I'm in there with gold
bottoms and straight backs and a red steep tag like
tagging up the walls of shape. But it was because
it was graffiti dudes in there. So it was just
like you walked out Ludlow's pianos. It's like Donny Brunk

(28:07):
and Ship Community fifty four, all these different spots, and bro,
there was like real like shit going on, Like it
was like a real energy girl, And at that time,
now I feel like.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Now it's just like all right, bro, like the energy
is totally You got a crumble cookie here exactly like
you said. You said the coffee shop when that when
I heard that they was getting rid of the coffee.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Shop, listen to me, that was like the most depressive.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Was the recipes.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, like the coffee shop. How do you go to
the court.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
That's legendary spots, But it's it's interesting to say five
point you talk about graffiti when they just gave five points.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
That also looking at it like shit and make you
drive past this white building points you tagnified. Yeah, Bro,
it's like a rite of passes, bro, Like not nothing.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Crazy, Like I didn't go up there and do like
some crazy vertical piece my little tags whatever, because you know,
it's like it's like a ranking file, you know what
I mean, Like if you like a young dude, because
it's eighth grade thirteen, Like that's when I was going
over there, like twelve years old, thirteen and like everybody
else is like twenty years old and smoke angel dust
this shit, Like I'm like that what used.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
To pay trains?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
I was like, uh, like, yo, I'm gonna do my
little thing here in the corner, like I ain't gonna
go over nobody. Yeah, but yeah, now that ship man
like this, all these spots of disappear.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
And even that what was the movie they did with
like a whole bunch of a list actors and they
shot it at five points. The city got their money.
It was like a fucking one hundred million dollar contract,
so they could shoot a scene there and they were like,
all right, we'll just we'll make a condos now one
of the most iconic graffiti places on fucking Earth Earth period.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
It's crazy because I feel like things like that there
you go like.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
From Minnesota and need homes. From Minnesota, they need homes, Okay,
what the city doesn't need culture Like, oh, we don't
need that. Let's let's build overpriced condos with no closet space. Yeah.
So now, Maryrol we had the whole Joey Badass versus

(29:59):
the West Coach moment as New Yorkers. You know, me
and Rory sat here and I'm not gonna lie. I
was surprised as the way Joey handled himself. We know
Joey correct. The performance that he put on in that
moment surprised me. But at the same time, it's like
I was happy because it was kind of like, Okay,
it's a kid from Brooklyn who understands what hip hop

(30:21):
is and understands the moment and is representing a certain
part of the culture that you know, to some people
feel like it's kind of dying, like that that era
of battling and keeping it just battle, not turning physical,
not turning like this is a battle, this is hip hop.
How did you feel in that moment seeing Joey Badass

(30:42):
being a hip hop baby put on a performance like
that in this era, Bro, It.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Took me back to like like you're saying, Bro, motherfucker's
a battle. It's just like Yo, G you and name
got beef for d Block, d Block, got Bee for
Rockefeller whatever, All right, whole free way fucking the young
everybody that's on Rock and fellows going up to Flex
were all going to freestyle and we're gonna take shots
at you on the radio prime time, Like, Bro, we're

(31:06):
sitting around the radio like this is TV, Like this
is like Bro car we in a call, bro we
sixots drinking like yo oh youse Toto. I was like, bro,
oh ship bro the stoles peeve yo, you better not
with my shoes.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
I was like, dad, tak hey, it's a small lass
foot but all.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
That ship was just like it was like appointment viewing
but for music, you know what I'm saying. And I
feel like that's something that's that's really getting lost on
the culture. Like it's like yo, like damn, but like
these crews getting together and going up to these shows,
going up to Clue, going up to Flex, going up
to you know what I'm saying, and like like you said,
battling Bro, Like who's the nicest you know what I'm saying,

(31:49):
Like which you know what I mean, Like like my kids,
my son is fourteen, My old this is fourteen, and
like listening to Bro, he's listening to like like Jock
Can Romanic is curating his shit. You know what I'm saying,
it's just like the newest, like like Cardi's not new,
but like you know, Playbook CARDI like that type of shit.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
It's just like like, yeah, I was to say that
because that's the one name the rolling Loud, Like, yeah,
Playboy Cardi is the one name that I always hear
from fourteen fifteen year old and I'm just like, I
recognize Playboy Carti's talent, but the music from that where
we from, I can't get into that.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
That music. I I how to do it by asmosis.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
So I'm in the call with the kids and shit,
and I'm like, I'm listening to the first two albums
Dilate to me.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
When I first heard it, I was like, all right, bro,
what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (32:42):
And then I was like, as I'm sitting in the
car with my son, I'm like, okay, Like I understand
what this is for.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like you know.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
What I mean, Like if I want to laugh, I'm
not gonna go watch fucking Gray's Anatomy, you know what
I'm saying, Like I'm gonna watching Martin stand up or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
So I'm like, I get what this is for.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
This is just like yo, I'm fucking lick because like, bro,
I'll fucking eat, like you know what I mean, Like
like two fucking I don't know what the fuck the
shits are called it. I don't know how much milligrams
it is, but they shrooms and they come in like
a little waffle comb.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
It's like a little chocolate. True, you don't know what
the fuck you eat.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
I'm not boom boom. I'm banging like two of them ships.
And then I'm just like I understand it. It opens,
the portal opened the portal.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now I understand I'm doing backflip since the pool. You
know what I'm saying, Like now, Card is the greatest
lyricist of all old I get it.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
You know what I'm saying, like yeah, like yeah, all
that shit makes perfect and it's just like it's like
to me, you know, like that like I don't know
who said it, somebody's definitely said this before, but the
rapper on the.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Track is it's just like another instrument on the track.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
So it's like, we are hip hop babies, so we
expect a certain standard of like lyricism and like what
are you saying? I feel like the new generation is
just like how does this sound like? Sonically? Like what
he was like, the music, that's all they care about.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
You cared about lyrics.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
The music matters, but we were more like, yo, what
is he saying right?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
But even even when it got like melodic and less lyrical,
I still understood it because the melodies were cool. Now
does card even have them? Like he's like it's like
ad libs, Like that's the questions emotions like I don't
know who like and to me, the producer of that
record should be like primary artist. That's it to me,
Like if Cardi was producing all that himself, I'd be like,

(34:28):
I get it, you guys. I listened to the last
album just because we have a podcast. I wouldn't have
done it. If we did it, I did it, and
the whole time was like the beats as hard as fuck,
but this is awful? Why the producer not the artist
on this?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
And the crazy shit is just like he I don't
know if he just keeps changing up his flow or
what he's doing, but he's maintaining that relevance in that
age group he got him in like a full Nelson
bro like.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And I'm like, what else say?

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I listened to so my kids dealing to all different
ship Like my daughter is eight years old and listens
to nothing but fucking king Vaughan bro and like Chicago,
Like I don't know like, Bro, I do.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Not understand everything. Guy in the house, I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
You got rooms at home, may be a better parent,
I'm not. I'm you know, parents don't even I set
up the time limits. All that ship.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Has to be off at a p m. You're not
sliding nowhere. Okay, Oh yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
And because you got gymnastics and you gotta get up
early child to practice tomorrow, which is the three that
would be doased by that.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Crazy And it's so wild because I'm just like, where
did this come from?

Speaker 5 (35:50):
And it's but it's not crazy though, like knowing the
life that you had, how you grew up in the
city and now you have to be like a real dad.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
It's like you who gave me kids like.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yo, And it's funked out because I'm like I try
to tell him. I'm like, Bro, we're in Jersey now,
it's a different environume.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
You try to create that.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, like you don't have to go through what I
went through and that and like I talked to people
and King varn is still blasted still in the crib, bro,
through the blueto throughout the house.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I'm like how did you figure this out? How did
you figure out? I was like I couldn't figure this.
When I went to go see the crib before it
had to speaker to the house, I was like, how
did you figure out how to use the ship before?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Like? What the fuck is going on here? And why
the speaker test? With Vaughn, Like the first time, first
time you get a car or a new soundbard, whatever
you try to like what's the first record ever go to?
I'm like, yo, what the I'm like, what the whoa?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Where's it coming?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
With Vaughn and surround sound is crazy? The Spirits when
your boost mo night, like come on, yeah, she come
out locks?

Speaker 6 (36:58):
What the what's going on?

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
That is crazy?

Speaker 4 (37:02):
But they all got very different music. It's like my
oldest is like Cardi and he's like a little bit
of indie rock, like the Yachty shit Tyler. He loves Tyler.
We went to go see Tyler and uh Yachty opened
and like my so fourteen, twelve, ten and eight eight
year old is on King Von.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
She's my only daughter. She's on King Von all day
and trip X and XXX. Yeah. I was wrong about
him though, because I was scared of that whole ship,
and I was being too much of an old head.
When when he passed, I started listening to music. I
was like, oh, no, I guess guys. Fire, Yeah he made,
he made, and that's what I prejudged and I shouldn't
have seen him fire.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Same ship, bro, I did the same ship brocause it
was it was that was the time three. It was
Juice World, King von and who the fuck did I
just say? Exceptex And I was just like, bro, you're
an eight year old girl, like what the fuck? And
it was the ten year old started listening to the
Juice World. I'm like, is juice worthy Tupac? Because I
remember like the Brownie, like, Yo, you chose a number nine?

(38:01):
Why do you choose the number nine?

Speaker 6 (38:02):
Fore Jersey?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
In my mind, I'm like, yo, my dad's a six,
so I'm gonna be nine or nah. Juice World it
was a drink lyric or something no no, no yo,
But Juice World was was super super talented. That's what
First of all was that the ghost of Vaughn, like
you're kicking vall came. No, we weren't saying anything bad.

(38:31):
I actually totally understand why people like I like Bona
when he was alive. It was a little too authentic
for me because I knew he to tell the truth.
Like That's what was the scariest part about Vonn. I
was like, no, he, I shouldn't be enjoying like actual crimes.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Like this right and then and like again to like
the to the to the nineties hip hop babies. It
was like all that ship was like crime, not esketball,
like Joe Crack, you know what I mean? All this
ship these motherfuckers just say this ship like playing English
like they used to at least like to kind of
like disguise it a little.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Bit, like with like rhymes and like schemes and shit.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Now it's just like, yo, I took a per thirty. Yeah, yeah,
yeah thirty is it?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:10):
And it's ang is called perk thirty, you know what
I'm saying. And when you go to find on Spotify
is eighteen per thirty.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, and then you're sitting there on a perk thirty
Like I get it.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
Yo.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
I would listen to all these n I can't move
my limbs.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
My thirty playlist, I can't move my lips, I can't
reach the phone again. But I will say that is
an insane three for an eight year old mind to have,
and I'm like, yo, you're going to be dangerous in
the future, a depressed demon.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
You know what I'm saying. You got to know them brothers.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
But I think the way that we were raised, I
think that it helps though, like I don't have children yet,
but I think that it helps.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Because when I was.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
When we were growing up, I had to sneak to
listen to Snoop dog My mom wouldn't let me listen
to Doggie Style, Like it just was not something my
mom was let And it's funny now because my mom
is the hugest Snoop fan I love.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
I didn't have to sneak and listen to that shit
like you used to. You would almost beat me. Woo
my mother.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
You open the door and I'm listening to the Doggy Style.
Now You're like, yo, I love Snoop.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
I'm like, bro, there's a difference between Martha Stewart Snoop
and Welcome to the Jack Off Hour.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
No no, but no, my mom loves my mom.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
She loved the music though she just you know, growing
up at that time, she just didn't want me to
find and hear that because you know, people say the
music doesn't influence it does. I didn't know what the
forty ounce was before Drean Snoop. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I would have just like they weren't gonna really you
would eventually find out when you went. Yes, my mom
didn't want me to find out when I was thirteen, right,
you know what I'm saying, forty ounces at thirteen, No,
that wasn't you're drinking forty ounces at thirteen.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I'm also ten years older than you. So now in
two thousand and one, okay, you know what I'm saying, Yes,
like you would be. You know what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
War three, I appreciate you eight thousand and three. Yeah, yes,
and when forty ounce is not that popular back then,
it wasn't a New York thing. Not Back then it
was like that was a very West Coast thing, like
MEN'SUS society.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
It was like, what is a why that beer is
so big?

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Yeah? Fundies was crackhead beer? Yeah listen, yeah, it was
like balance when.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
This Yeah yeah, bro, then that's just that was alcoholic shit. Snoop.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
For sure. We were drinking hoigh gravity still reserved ship
in three oh four, and it was not crackhead ship whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
It was just it was cheap and my brother and
my brother's younger than me, and they was doing that
in college. He was like they were doing the like
fucking having contests and ship like who could guzzle if?

Speaker 6 (41:36):
I'm like, bro, that's crazy. I thought I was bugging
because we.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Was taking the twenty two Heineken and then putting fucking
coll syrup and the ship and then drinking that.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
I was like, Yo, this is crazy. Y'all doing even
craziest ship up there.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
And the crazy shit is like I was saying, like
being a dad now coming from our generation, you know,
you listen to Vaughan's lyrics. Worst thing with Snoop was saying,
oh yeah, like it's not even close, not even fromblic
you know what I'm saying. So now, but now it's
a dad, you understand it because you're like.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
This is their error. It's the artist they like, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I couldn't listen to Snoop, but I probably would let
my daughter listen to varone because I understand, like it's
the energy, it's the I don't want her to go
out and do what she's hearing. But it's like I
can't take that away from her because that's just this generation.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
That's it, That's that's what they like. You know what
I'm saying is what it is.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
You could either you could try to stop them as
a parent. You could try to stop them from doing
the thing.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
They're gonna find it.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
They're gonna find it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
That's more accessible than ever now forget it.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
But when we was growing up, it was like very limited.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Like if you got to download some ship you really
hadn't want that ship, ye, and then half the time
it will trick you and be like, oh ship, oh
ship that ambitious as a rider remix with dmx j
z no Snoop Dogg to I'm like, this can't be real.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
And then you download it and it's a.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Porn you know what I'm saying, fake Bill Clinton, download
the wrong one and it would be someone doing a
yeah but crazy. I'm with you on that style. Parents. Again,
it's only been two and a half years, but I'm
already thinking of like when she gets older, of course
I'll be a fucking paranoid not helicopter parent or whatever

(43:14):
words they use now. But kids are gonna find this
ship whether like like I you shouldn't stop because they're
just gonna do it behind your.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
Back, Like that's the worst thing ever.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
But they're gonna find it no matter what.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
They're gonna find no matter what.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
And it's just like the happy you got to find,
like the happy medium as a parent of Like Yo.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
All right, bro, like don't be big bro. Yeah, I
started smoking with at thirteen. I ain't stopped, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
So I'm like, I'll be a hypocrite if I was
just like yo, bro, Like nah, y'all can't do this,
y'all can't do that. My shit is like more like alcohol,
you know what I mean. Because I'm like, yo, bro,
like when y'all we in Jersey, y'all are going to
eventually be driving around, you know what I mean, Like
so easy with the drinking, you know what I'm saying,
Like we adn't gonna make you do nothing but sit
somewhere and play Call of Duty.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Way and dumber shit on alcohol than they are any
type of week you feel me like?

Speaker 4 (44:04):
And I know because like I'm like the smoker. My
wife is a drinker, So I like I'll be having
I'm driving.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Home watching Carmelo Anthony.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Obviously, over the years, I will say I've always felt
like Mello was well spoken, articulate, Uh you know, one
of the smartest athletes, and you know, did a lot
of dope shit away from his sport. But to see
what y'all doing now, I am it is dope to
see Mellow in that space having those conversations with athletes

(44:31):
of today, the younger generation, guys that look up to him.
How has it been working that close to him? And
what are you most surprised about in working just close
to Mellow?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Honestly, with the speed with which he picked up like
the media game, you know what I'm saying, Because it's
like a lot of bro that look at in it
was crazy, do you know what I mean? So it's
like y'all know how to do this, like y'all had
professionals like I've been doing this. I'm a professional. Melo's
been dropping fifty for the last.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
You know what I mean. However, many different space. It's
a whole.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
Different like space.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
It's like telling me tomorrow, like, yo, fam, we're gonna
teach you to be a heart surgeon. Tomorrow, and I'm like,
all right, bro, but like fuck it, if you got something,
if I got the number one heart surgeon in the
world next to me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
I'm not saying I'm that.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
So that's experienced, and it's like, Yo, we're gonna do this,
We're gonna do that. And also just like instilling like
the like the atmosphere of the show, you know what
I'm saying, like bringing that culture of like yo, when
you come over here or this shit is vibing, bro,
Like this is his studio, Like you know what I'm saying,
this is his ship, Like you know what I mean,
Like she ain't rented, Like you can do what the

(45:34):
fuck you want to he Bro, if you a smoker.

Speaker 6 (45:36):
Come in here, have your little help. Before the interview whatever.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
We chop it up like this, like before we even
got cameras rolling, So by the time we get into
the interview, we already been chopping it up for at
least half an hour, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
So that's something I learned like along the way, like MTV.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
I call that shit like fucking TV community college, because
it was like it taught me how to do camera stuff. Like, Yo,
if you got something really impacted, like yo, straight to
the single, you know what I mean, or like open
up to camera, this type of shit. The advice was like, Yo,
how do you produce a show that people actually give
a fucker but I don't want to watch?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
And how do you do that every day? Which is
one of my business difficult things on fucking.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Earth, you know what I'm saying, Like, and to hold
people like to that retention shit.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
It's so important, bro, because it's like yo, views, yeah,
no doubt, motherfuckers, click through your shit for ten seconds
and onto the next. If I got you, if I
have a half an hour show and I got you
to lock in for half an hour, I got people
tweeting like, Yo, I'm coming to the crib to watch this.
I got five episodes of this show on the DVR
or whatever, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like it's you know, but to the metal thing.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
It's like seeing him get into that space so comfortably,
so quickly.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I was just like, bro, this is yo. You built
for this champ, like you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (46:48):
And now he's doing the NBC thing where it's just
like bro now and I told him I was like, nah,
this is a different game. This is like this is
this yeah polished, you know what I'm saying, Like you
might have to Yeah, this is a little more corporate,
like you know what I mean? Like you you know
the language that we use on here you might not
use over there. But it's just really just like an
it's like a dial.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Bro, Like I merrow all the time.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Bro, But I know when I'm on Disney Channel, I
gotta be a little bit more turned down when I'm
on Rory and Melbo, I say, what the fuck I want?
You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just different, and
that's how you learn to be a professional.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
And he learned that shit very fast.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
This Andhred three thousand bar always sticks in my head.
Off Blonde when he said Dan was I working too hard?
I love our long form content, but I do I'm
jealous sometimes of TV people and the corporate gigs that
they have where you need to speak for fucking one
minute and then go to commercial break bruh, and you're
getting paid the same and I'm sitting here for fucking
six hours. Yeah, you know what's crazy, It's not a complacious,

(47:42):
like damn all right, that's such an easy You're giving
me a script. I just have to sit here like this,
do that and move the fuck on it. And I
don't even got to sound natural.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
I gotta do the tonight we're gonna be talking about
Rory and it's two and a half year old child.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
Now she listens the King Voon right in the crib. Yeah,
next Rachel.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Like it's and it's crazy, bro, because I'm like, I
work so hard at like taking that what's in that
prompta and making it sound like we're talking like this,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And I'm like, Yo, that's where entertainment is headed. Bro, Guys,
you can see like Colbert's out of here, like all
that late night shit is dying.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, like people fam like that whole ship, Like it's
it's like played out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Like authentic and that's why it's and that's why it's
like falling flat.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Like that's why I think that, you know, with guys
like Mellow, you know, getting high by NBC and going
you know that, I think that's where it's headed. I
do feel like we are close to having hearing watching
the game and hearing sideline reporters curse. I think they
want to get close to it's close to real, real personalities,

(48:48):
real emotions, reactions. I love seeing what Jamal Crawf is
doing in the space now, Mellow Tail of Rooks, like
all of these young just the young energy, this this
new ibor energy that they are putting on television, because like, yo,
these are the people that we know. They speak the
way we speak, our language. They understand the things that
we do. And it's good to have a player like

(49:10):
Melo or Jamal Crawford talk about the game because one
they played at that level. But these guys that are
playing looked at them like, yo, mellow Is, he's him,
He's God.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
So it's good to have that that that real. You know,
just look over on the sideline to see somebody like
called Melo. Now NBC having Michael Jordan and you know,
people like that.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
It's not like the most insane. Yeah, I don't know
what they plan on doing.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
My guess is, I don't know what. NBC has a
lot of money.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
I don't know if they can afford Michael Jordan for
full time a full season, absolutely not, But I do
think it'll be playoffs, finals, gonna see him doing something
in the finals where you know, whatever team's in the finals,
they sit at somebody like let's say like a Yiannis
he's in the finals, he would sit down and talk
to Jordan before game two and say, Yo, you know

(49:58):
what do I have to do when I go in
and Mike's going to be yourself? Be who you are,
that type of thing. I don't think we're gonna see
Michael Jordan's saying up there like just chucking her and
m I don't think they can. NBC got a lot
of money.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
If but well not enough because Bill Cosby was gonna
buy it. But that's why I forget there. If you
get that, yeah, it was affordable.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
They mellow Mike, somebody's gonna be dope to see that.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Though. I would love, like yellow Eyed crash out Jordan's
to just bounce.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
I would love that, but NBC is like, we can't
have that because but to your point, like, if it
was a digital show, bro, that would be like the
most yeah, craziest bro funk mister Beast and whoever, and
like the top three people after him that would catapult out.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Of this world.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Let me ask you all this, because how close do
you think we are to a world where what Peyton
and Eli do with the games is going to be
the new where they are podcasting the whole game about
to go up and kg they do that. Yeah, Like,
how close do you think for like regular on TNT
when you just turn on the game, it's going to
be the norm for that. I don't think we're that

(51:13):
far away from In ten years, I could see it
being completely like Thatuse these younger consumers. We grew up
with regular announcers this, and like these younger kids listen
to content the way we do content. Sports is gonna
end up being the same fucking thing, Doug. I like
it's sports music everything. Like with the sports thing.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I think it's a little bit more complicated because of
all the rights and shit like that, like yo, we
got the rights today or this game we've got the
rights of they or that game, which is fucking crazy
to me because it used to be, like I'm forty
two years old when I would fucking turn the TV
on on a Sunday, every game is there, and if
I wanted to fucking go to my man's credble like
use my man's college email to get Dish network whatever

(51:57):
and get red Zone and all that other shit.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I could do it. It's all in one spot. Now,
it's like this game is on Amazon, this games on
this channel, this games on this channel like Netflix. I'm like, bro,
what the fuck are we doing?

Speaker 6 (52:08):
We back to cable?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean. But everything again, in
business recycles itself. I can see because of the TV
rights personalities podcasting during games being important, there'll be a
higher TV Like if Peyton, Manning and Eli are coming
with a huge fan base that podcast during a game
the whole time, and then let's just for example, they
sign just to Fox. Fox now has leverage with TV

(52:31):
rights with the owners. Like, I think it's going to
go back to how podcasting was, or even when streaming started,
when we just had Chance on So I'm a Chance
exclusive first album deal. You can only listen to it here,
you're coming with an audience. I think that's where it's at.
That's where it is, bro, Like, it's it's it's there already.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Just it's just like I feel like the legacy TV
guys are trying to figure it out and they and
they're having a hard time because they hold seventy five
and taking gin saying you know what I mean to membership.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I could see a world where you and mellow smart
language sitting there. You guys are the commentator. I don't
necessarily need somebody to tell me who's passing to who
all the fucking time. Sometimes I need real banster while
I'm watching right.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
Like, Yo, this dude's about to do this like I did.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
So shout out to my guy saying at playback, So
playback is this is this new thing.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
It's like Twitch but for sports.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
And when I was at NBA All Star he was like, Yo,
we just got the licensed fan BA and we we've
had we got the lights for NBA.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
We just got the likes of fa LB.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
So I did like a.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Little like run, like a little run of games with
Dyla Betances from the Yankees, and it was that it
was like Yo, I'm in the window.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
He's in the window like it was Boston Reds. It
was red Sox Yankees bought Katie Nolan and she's from Boston.
We all talking about each other's teams.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
He played the game, so he's.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Talking like insight, like yo, and this, yo, this this
count right here. Aaron Judge is gonna be looking for
a fastball, middle he gets it, he's gonna hit a
home run.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Watch and then he has a home run.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
And everybody goes crazy, Oh shit, and.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Katie's like, oh fuck, y'all Yankee fans move. So it's
just like like you said, like it's a different type
of than just uh Brunson. That's both the Bridges. Bridges
shoot three because I grew up on it, but I
know these.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Younger right different.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
It has to be personalities that they relate to, that
speak the way they speak, and you.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Know that's it.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
That's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Like Snoop Snoop did something at the Olympics. I think, yeah,
all the ship is happening. I'm saying it's going to
be the norm amongst the big parent networks at this time.
Like it's not just going to be the twitch thing.
It's gonna be I see a world with baseball where
they switch commentators with innings third inning. The three of
us come in and we just do the third inning.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Yeah, And it's like because from New York, yeah Yankee
fan expert, like yeah, it makes everyone has to get
creative with the ship. Apple did it when they did
their baseball coverage and like it like they didn't go
well or whatever. But I'm like, yo, you got to
give ship like that run with little bit, you know
what I'm saying. And I'm like, if you give it

(54:56):
wrung Way and like, yeah, you take l financially like
the first two thre is write that shut off.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Bro, You're a huge network. You're Apple, Like, listen.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
You're the only people without tariffs right now.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
I'm listening, like.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I just I just picked over at the PR Like
you're you about to start slathering networks.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
No I'm not, but my daughter straight up.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
My thing is this, I as a like, as a
TV guy, writer person, like any of the advice I
have for people that are in that world or creating
stuff of I want to go to a network and
be like, yo, we want to bring our show on network.
Go somewhere that makes things. And what I mean by
that is like, you know there's certain studios that all

(55:45):
they make is content. If you sony, bro, I know
you got money, motherfucker because you making a billion PlayStations.
So you can't cry broke to me, you know what
I'm saying, Like Amazon, Like, yo, bro, you sold a
thousand Bibles in this hour.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
You know what I'm saying. So like, I know you're
not bro, you know what I'm saying, So like, that's
what I think. That's really where entertainment is headed.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Where it's it's like, Yo, we're gonna bet on these
dudes because or the people that are willing to bet
on like original ideas and not just like yo, the
New Marvel movie is companies like that because they got
money and they could be like, Yo, you know what,
if we take out, we take out, But if we don't,
we look like fucking geniuses.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You just came up with the next succession or whatever,
you know. I mean, shit, that's entertainment one on one
to me, because shit, even in series, you don't make
any money until the second or third season when it's proven,
Like you've got every single TV show or anything that
goes out, you're going to lose in the first one hundred.
I don't care who the fuck you are. No matter,
like you said, it could be stuck.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
And now it's switching where digital like everybody's like you said,
like if you have a fan base, if you have
like numbers, that's man, I'm sure y'all are tired of
this shit. Pitch decks, pitch decks with analytics. Yes, that's
like you a one sheet with pitch decks and analytics.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
You bring that shit to motherfucking Verizon or whoever, and
they're like, all bet bro A sponsor your shit for
five years.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
Like that's where that's that's where we're at. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
It's not like, Yo, I'm Tom Cruise, Bro. That's enough.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Like nah, Bro, it ain't like you gotta sell something, bro,
Like you got to go something to do a snapper commercial.
Motherfucker life, do something like everybody your favorite person is
in an.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Ad doing something absolutely like that's where we're at, meyrol,
let them know where they could catch you at, bro, Yo.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
It's at the kid Mary on all socials, no spaces,
you know what I'm saying, No funny shit.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
I don't try to get cute THHG Kat the m
E r O.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
Everywhere the YouTube channel is according to the kid, this
ad according to the kid's on there. You know what
I'm saying, that's just me talking about a old man,
you know what I mean, being mad about things like
these stupid datis shows and like, you know, people taking
their shoes off on planes, this victory, like the Illustrious
podcast with Lis.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Bellots and Rainio Vayer. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
My cos and seven PM in Brooklyn, of course, you
know what I'm saying with the Guard Carmello, Anthony and
my guys Caz, Monica, Rudy, the whole gang, you know,
and working on this book, a collection of essays on fatherhood.
You know what I'm saying, something like that Ben Greenberg
at random House. You know what I'm saying, Cause that's
I feel like I'm there, you know what I mean.
Like my oldest son is going to high school. So

(58:10):
I'm like, all right, bro, like I feel like.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I know enough.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah, you know what I mean, stories to fill up
my motherfucker. Yeah, ten fucking holy texts, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
So I'm not ready.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
Appreciate you for coming through kicking with us. Marrow, that's
the kid, Merrow.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
Yeah,