Episode 376 | California Love - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
The volume, Lollian, we are back. Top of the top
of the top of the week, top of the month,
top of the month, top of June, May flew by.
I think it was just because everyone was celebrating my
birthday that it just you know, oh for sure, times flying.
When you're celebrating my birthday.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Six months until Christmas? You ready, babydo iyem me something? Maybe? Okay,
depends on how you act.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
He still owes you sneakers, Yes, he does. He owes
when parents try to count like a present as your
birthday and your Christmas present. That's what he's gonna do
with the sneakers.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Like it's like three months apart though.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Rollover, my parents did that and I made it December.
That's your birthday and your Christmas present.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yes, wow, y'all needed something like some money.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
No, it wasn't money. No, we weren't like poor. They're
just assholes, which I was poor white you know, you
know the old fucking Irish parents of how bad they
had to struggle, Like, come on, man, been a grandpa's house.
It's not that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
A lot of rooms, A lot of rooms are yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
But of course there was ten cousins and three Yeah,
everyone lived there, all right, that was fine. It was
running water. But how is everyone's weekend? Clearly you guys
can see that. I'm tan akain.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
We you sorry, that's not clue.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Maybe another okay, maybe another hue of red. No, you look,
what if I do this, does it look like?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
No? Okay, you look the same, bro. I thought you
were just dirty, like I mean, your bed grew a
little bit. You got a little more like full of
beard today between three days yet full of beard.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I think it's the lightning. But yeah, you know, I
thought it was a nice like bronze olivey. No, not yet, okay,
I was in the sun.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
How long did you sit out in the sun? Not
very long exactly, see exactly, but long for me.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
But I could like steel the melon. No, I can
do like ten to fifteen if there's like certain shade nearby,
Like if I know I can run to shade. Yeah,
I'll bake a little bit. I start to feel it
my shoulders first.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
That's when it gets a little warm.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's when I know, like, Okay, I'm burning alive right now,
I should before my nose and forehead get hit. I'm
gonna go right to the capana. Yeah, but you know
I was, I was out in another country. Florida. Yeah,
I had to bring my passport. Yeah, Florida's still floriding
same shit. Yeah, and not like Miami, like the outskirts
like Florida, like where Florida man Florida's sides. Yes, but

(03:03):
it was interesting. I love running into our our listeners
in the oddest places ever. I like the thrift stores
in Florida because everyone goes down there to die. So
there's like a lot of options for thrift stores because
family is just like that's not really a joke, but
it it is dead serious. Everyone goes to Florida to die.
And then when they die, their family has to fly
to Florida pack up all their ship and they're like,

(03:24):
I'm not what am I doing with this? So they
just give it to a thrift store. So they have
amazing thrifting middle of fucking nowhere, Florida. I'm just sitting
there on the rack and someone's like, Rory, what the
fuck are you doing here? Like of any fucking place,
there's no way to show you Florida, like an hour
outside of Fort Myers, like the middle of fucking nowhere.

(03:44):
So you know, did that? Baked had some family time
and it was school weekend.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
You need that sometimes you ain't go fishing. No, we
didn't have tome gotta go fishing. Man time, go to
Florida to go try to go fishing.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, and you know with the toddlers, like you can't
do shit, She's I guess still todd little, Yeah, and
we're on her schedule. We wanted to go to the
beach in the morning, and it was like she just
kept saying playground. Play It was all right, well, I
guess we're gonna leave the beach and go to the playground.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
The beach can be the place I was gonna say.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
They usually have playgrounds on the beach, Like you didn't
have like little toys for.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
No, Well, yeah, yeah, I know. We had all like
the pails and like we were digging for seashells. She
even went in like the ocean and liked it for
the first time. That was cool. Oh, but she wanted
to slides and swings.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Is she as bad in the sun as you are?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay, she we had the same complexion. But because she
has like some melanin in her genetics, she can handle this.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
That black goal. She got that black goal.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Like when she gets older, like she'll be able to
actually tan. I feel, yeah, but in the winter she'll
look like me. But uh now it's cool. Regular weekend
airports are still a mess, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
No notes the New Jersey transit situation. Did they fix that?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I think yeah, I think I think the strike is over.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Beyonce happened, and before Beyonce happened, they had to fix
that because that's one of the ways to get to
the Beyonce concert New Jersey tr They fixed it before
beyond Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Thank you Beyonce for fixing a New Jersey transit situation.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Did she have to fly out of Newark because maybe
that's fixed now, maybe they actually hired air traffic controllers.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Get out of safety. You think flies out of Newark?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You think you think, yeah, delivered near me out as
there's Teeborough. I know it's getting local, but Teelborough doesn't
have like you can't do like jumbo jets and like
seven whatever sevens. Yeah, so I think she probably flies
on like one of those by herself, and you need
like even like the President flies into Newark or JFK

(05:37):
because they can't handle the private airports. So I assume
like of course they shut everything down, no one would
fly that day. But yeah, I could see Beyonce like
walking right on the tarat.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Straight to her save fifty seven. Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Like when Drake flies in, he wouldn't fly into titel Borough.
That plane is too.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Fucking big, right, I'm not sure actually, Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Well, I mean either way, hopefully Newark's better because we
have to travel. So yeah, I fucking forgot how much
it sucks going to Laguardian from my house.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I love Laguardian now, such a beautiful so much money
into it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
But they did the same in Yaron York was a shithole,
just like LaGuardia. But now they're both better than JFK. Yeah,
so you know, we'll see. But what'd you guys do?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
We cried? We all cried together.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
No oh oh the Knicks. Yes, yes, the burial. The
next funeral was this weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't even like the Tony your voice. You actually
sound kind of like upbeat about it.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
No, no, no, no, no. I mean I knew they were
gonna lose, but I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I was I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I was hoping they got it to seven, but I
knew the series was over after game one. Like I
just I think I think we all collectively knew that
the Pacers were the better team after Game one. But
I am happy that. You know, the Knicks made it
exciting this year. They made it fun. It was it was.
It was dope for the city to come together watch
everybody kind of route for the Knicks. It's funny because
I was in my living room watching the game, and

(06:59):
you can see like the others like in the area,
so every TV was like next game, and it was
just dope to see that. Like, I just felt like
the entire New York was on the same page for
the last two weeks of just trying to root the
Knicks on. So they did a great job. I think
they overachieved this season. I wasn't expecting them to get
to the Conference finals. They obviously have some some changes

(07:21):
they need to make, some adjustments they need to address,
and things like that. But I think overall, it was
a great year for the Knicks. I think, ye, they
definitely achieved more than most. I mean, I know every
Nick fan thinks they're gonna win it every year, but
I think realistically they achieved more than a lot of
people thought they would.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I mean, we were in here off like when the
Celtics series started and I was like, if they beat
the Celtics, Like, y, I'm.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Cool, That's what I'm saying, Like things like that. It
was like, got past the Celtics, got to the conference finals,
made it. I mean Game one kind of took the
air out of the whole thing, but you know, they
made it interesting. They got it to six games, and
that's all you could ask for a man, is that
they played hard. But paces is too much, man, it's
too much going on over there.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I'm very proud of
the team.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
What's the Oh, he's about to get paid? Oh shut
Jalen brunting down. I mean, Jay, if Jaylen Brunson went
to the bathroom, nim Hart held it for him.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
It was rough, That's just.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
What it was. I mean, he absolutely got paid off
of that one game alone. He's gonna get it. He's
going to get a contract.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I mean, I hate the what it should have could
is because obviously didn't happen. But I think there's a
world where we could have beat the Pacers. That's why
it kind of sucks, Like, I know, we weren't even
supposed to really be there and we should be proud,
and I am happy, but they teased us because again,
I'm with you on game one, I think that was
really the dagger from the beat that took the energy
would have been. But Brunson, I mean, I feel weird

(08:44):
even saying a bad word about him for what he's
done for our organization. I think he's the greatest Nick
I've personally watched, and my favorite Nick. But he was quiet.
Even if the numbers don't reflect it, you could feel
the different energy with Brunson throughout the series. Kat stepped
up on offense, didn't play any fucking decent defense. Is
TIBs the problem?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I don't think tim Well tips coach and style can
you know, people can point to it a little bit
here and there, but I think the biggest problem is
the Knicks need a six man. They need somebody to
come off the bench that they can rely on every
game to to kind of pick up the offensive low
when Brunton or Catus it comes out the game and
they need they need they need another They just need

(09:24):
better perimeter scoring like Jalen Brunton is the only one
out there that can create his own shot. Josh Hart
plays hard, but you're not expecting much offensive offensively from him.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And it's a problem when our small forward is who
we're relying on for all offensively. Yeah, it's just like
that's not a good It's been great for the last
three years. Josh Hart has stepped up like you would
not fucking believe. But that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, that's gonna that You don't you don't. You don't
depend on a guy like Josh Hart to carry offensively,
Like you know what I mean, You just take whatever
you can. Og played great, but again they got they
just got it. They need a little more, They need
a little more fire power to kind of keep up
with teams like Indiana, who I think they'll they'll probably
run into again next season, for sure. But I think

(10:11):
the Knicks, I think they they I think they are
at the level now where they can flirt with the
conference finals for the next couple of years.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And I hope they don't do too many adjustments. Like
the core four. I'd like us to keep Brunson, Hart, Kat,
O g I. Those four I'd rather not trade. I
know Kat was questionable a certain times, but let's give
me a year. Like this squad was together for one year. Yeah,
I'd like to see them at least see this through
Eastern Conference finals first time, and god knows how long,
and they played together for the first time this year,

(10:39):
Like let's let's let's not nick this whole thing where
we trade the entire franchise away just for the Greek
freak And like now we're just sitting here with Brunton
and him, and it's like, all right, we have two players, Yeah,
there's another three that need to.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Nah, they need they need to address that. They need
to get a little more firepower. But okay, seeing Indiana
in the finals.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I didn't even I thought it was over. There's more basketball.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, just because the Knicks are doesn't mean
it's not.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I thought they din't even do a champion like this.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, it's just over and it's more basketball.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
I'm becoming an okay Se fan overnight. Oh yeah, I
have never I have never wanted a team to lose
so bad in my entire like, like, I like, within
my every fiber of my being, I can't.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I just think it's so fun that the Pacers and
like the Knicks are like still like you know what
I mean, Like I don't want years later this is
not a well, the Knicks and Paces are rivalry. I
don't know if these Knicks and Paces are rivals yet,
but the Knicks and Paces organizations are rivals. Though.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Josh wrote that beautiful bean footage. Do you see what
the fuck Ty Halliburton posted? Yeah, it's war, it's smoked.
It's up for another fifty years.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah. But the thing is the Knicks have to continue
to get to get there though. Every year in order
to be like, they have to meet. If they meet
again next year, it's like, Okay, now it's lit now
it's so that's when it's meeting one year in the
playoffs with these roster, it's not a rivalry yet.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I hear you. I hear you on that. I mean,
they did Clippers last year, but that wasn't really if
they it's not. I'm talking about their full clip. Everybody healthy.
Let them go out there like they did.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
This this this series and and get after it. If
we can get this again next season, then I think
the rivalry is back on with the Knicks and Paces.
But uh, I think Oka see Indiana series should be interesting. Uh.
I don't know who I have winning yet, and I
know everybody's favorite is obviously SG A League MVP and
and okay see, but I don't know. Man, this Indiana team,

(12:36):
the way they play together, Man, nobody you know it's
even something any night somebody else can kill you. Yeah,
and I think nim Hart's defense obviously in Game six
on Brunson is what killed the Knicks. But I think
it'll be interesting series. I know a lot of people
don't think it'll be as as watched as if the
obviously if the Knicks were in the finals, but I
think it'll be a fun series to watch. These two

(12:57):
young teams go at it.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, for sure, And I mean obviously third place doesn't
matter in the NBA, but I kind of wish they
did that like they did in like wreck Ball. I'd
love to see the Timberwolves and Knicks just face off
for a series like battle for third and fourth place
because I just want to see those two teams together.
It's just one next team that separating.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Your participation trophy kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm a I want to see the team that was
dissembled each some type of banner, like it was an
inner It would be like an inner squad scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
You like, you would love to see the Knicks rays
a third place banner to the top of MSG.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You would love that as opposed to no banner.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Absolutely fucked that third place band and get that ship
out of here. Nobody want to see that shit.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Did we tell the beautiful people who were RESPONSIBLEY? I
don't think so, Come on or slipping already? Come on,
Jesus's responsible.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I had a bunch of bug bitesos and.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Blood, thank you, twenty five dollars a month forever, a baby,
d ever forever. I don't know to make the switch.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Right, now I need twenty five.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I switch. They keep calling me trying to get me
back to that, to the old, to the opocked over.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I blocked those in them. Yeah, so I don't even
go through my boost.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, switch definitely made the switch.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Well, did you do anything over the weekend besides uh,
quietly cheer that the Knicks were being dismantled.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Yeah, Lakers haters, Lakers fans behaviors on the low. Let's
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And Celtics fans too, like I hate, I hate like
sore winners even though they didn't win this year, Like
y'all have dominated for a couple of years now and
you have more rings than pretty much every franchise. Besides
what the Lakers? Why are y'll on Twitter when we
lose in the Eastern Conference? Like I thought y'all were
above us. That's the losers.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's because the Knicks beat the Celtics. So yeah, Celtics
are rooting for the next.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
To lose, and Knicks fans are a little insufferable.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
We are a little where we're bad.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
We tow the city up because they made it to
the conference finals.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
They tore the city apart. It was trash, every what else.
Any day they were looting. They were looting. I think
that's what they I told you all.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
My dumb ass went down trying to go to Penn
Station which is next to Madison Square Garden or connected
or whatever to get on the train after game five,
and I was just sitting up there like, what the like.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I literally felt like, it's such.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
A that's such a girl. I was. I wasn't thinking,
you have no clue, Like, why would you go an
I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
I wasn't thinking because the Ubers they were double charged
on the Ubers. I'm like, I'm not paying one hundred
and fifty hours to get home. So I was like, oh,
I'll just get on the train and got off the
train and was like oh fuck yeah, like and got swarm.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
The cops were pushing me. They're like, you gotta go
this way. I'm like, I'm literally a girl. I don't
know what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
So after we recorded, I watched game five here because
I was like the game. I had ordered something to eat.
It was like seven fifty the games watch, so I'm like,
I'm not missing the start of the game. So I
watched the game here they won game five like we
thought they would, so leave it here. You know that,
you know the pedal the pedal bike cavies, like the
little every last one of them was playing. Jay z

(15:54):
Alicia yep, I was like, Jesus Christ, it's game five,
Like cut this ship off, like turn it off. Put
these fucking bikes on the side of the fucking roll
like get out of the They were in the middle
of the street like sixth Avenue, just doing whatever they
wanted concrete joked. I was like, yo, it's game five,

(16:18):
Like they are still down. But is it where dreams
are made of? That part was true, okay, but dreams
also die in New York and the.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Dreams dreams die here, then absolutely, Jay.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
And Alicia Keys need to put that that song out.
But it was a good season for the Knicks. The
shout out to the Knicks, and hopefully they could pick
up on the momentum next year and get right back.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't think Knicks fans are that insufferable.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
If we're going off, fans are the most insufferable fans.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
We lose all the time.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, but y'all don't even stand. But even when y'all lose,
it's always like next year, like we're gonna win.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
We keep we keep to ourselves, like not like Eagles.
Eagles fans are the worst. I would say New York
Jet fans are ten times worse than Knicks fans, even
if they're they blended.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Jets and Jets and Knicks fans on the same fan base.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Have you been to a Jets game? Have you been
on the train? Yeah, it is ten times worse than
outside of the Garden. It's not even close. It's obnoxious
people from Long Island. It's drunk people from New Jersey,
like the worst of the worst from New Jersey. The
Knicks fans is a blend of the whole city to me. Yeah,
like you get Giants fans that are calm and cool
that are also Knicks fans. The degenerates are the Jets fans.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I don't know, because the Giants actually won in like.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Even when the Giants weren't winning, they were Giants fans
are cool. Jets fans no matter. They could be fucking
zero to eight and they're still as obnoxious as if
they were.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
No.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Giants fans are not cool. Have you ever been to
a Giants game? Like when they lose every life.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
That's that's the best time to be there.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
They are not cool, you know, be starting fights in
the yard like they're no. New York sports fans in
general are not cool. It's New York sports fans. Eagles
fans and Cowboy fans are absolutely terrible people.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm with you on Cowboy fans for sure. Cowboy fans
are all they're just like weird people, especially Cowboy fans
not from Dallas.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Cowboys fans of Comact going to Knicks fans too, both
delusional fan bases. They think that every year they're gonna
win it all.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Well, the Cowboys have a little bit more to stand on,
But I am with you, no matter whether they're good
or not, they're gonna sell out and everyone's gonna care.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's the same exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
There is a comparison in the fan base well over
the weekend. On the music side, I did see the
time lists.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Oh not yet. I'm sorry, I'm crazy, hey.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I mean, if you want to start with the hate, no, no,
I thought that's what we was going into. I was
gonna go into what I had the timeline in Distebrate,
we go right into into the trumpets.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
If you like, Oh, let's go into the list. Let's
go into the list first.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I didn't have much service and the Wi Fi was
down where I was at, so there was only a
few times I could see what was pissing everyone off
per hour, but I did, but I did see Complex.
Anytime Complex puts any list out, you know, the timeline
is gonna melt. Everyone's gonna stop what they're doing on
a Saturday, say, fuck their kids, fuck the plans they had.
We need to argue about what Complex has to say, right,

(19:02):
even if it is a third party writer ten ninety nine,
that doesn't even work any Does anyone even work at
Complex anymore?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think it's bots that just make They just.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do a AI generated lit like what would piss the
time chatubc, what would piss the timeline off? Like, just
leave tupac off exactly. That's what chatchubt spuit up.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
To be fair, Pack is not from LA, which.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
We'll get there. Yeah, Complex Best La Rappers of All
Time list. I don't know if this is going to
start the city by city thing that we're going to
get for the rest of the year, but I'm not
mad at them. Starting with LA. We'll just go through
the top five real quick.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well the funny thing go ahead, because this is the
top fifty LA rappers, right, Yes, a lot of these
rappers are not from LA. They're from California, but they're
not from Los Angeles. Okay, how we you know? I mean,
I guess that's when I sort of listen out. Like
I looked at it. I was like, okay, but this
is in from LA. A lot of these guys are
not from LA. I just Snoop from Long Beach, Kendrick

(20:01):
is from Compton, you know what I mean. It's kind
of like.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Where we Okay, I see what you're saying. But if
they did the greatest New York City Rappers of all
time and Jadakiss was on the list, I wouldn't be like, no,
he's from Yonkers. I wouldn't say that he's still New
York City rapper. Yeah, Long Beach is still comp I
understand that those are not in the LA County, or

(20:26):
maybe it is LA County, but it's not a Los
Angeles address. Compton is its own city, Long Beach is
its own city. It's still the LA Greater area. I
feel like, I.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Mean, I just know people from from these places that
they've had these same they like, Yo, that's we're not LA.
This is that's not La. He's not from La. Okay
they're saying this like he's not from LA, he's not
from Lay where he's from. They don't even fuck with La.
Like it's a lot of that going on.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Of course, and I get that politics, especially with La
of any other city, but not even to get on
the Amaretta shit. But like if they were to do
the best rappers from Atlanta, Andre three thousand camp be
on it now because he's technically not from Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well that's why you go. Best rappers from California got
bat now.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
But then that's insane because you're getting into the Bay
like that's a big California is like the third biggest state.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Uh okay, yeah, I'm not I'm not hiting nitpick, but
I'm just you know, it was reading the timeline and
seeing what people were saying, that's.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
All Like, if we can't have rock him on the greatest.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
New York City Rappers, why wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
He's from Long Island exactly, that's New York.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Though it would be the New York City, it wouldn't
be New York City. It would be New York.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh then if we're getting in New York state, then
we have to put in Griselda there. Yeah, okay, not cool,
So we just state by state you would do I
would just do the whole New York Okay, I'm not
stay in New York fair enough.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Some niggas from binghamtow who get it in for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
From Inghamton, like rapping said get it in. She's not
talking about rapp Okay, who's who's rapping from Binghamton? Like
I missed that whole that movement.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
I'm just saying, you know, we get Rory's point.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Though, I was more so on the side of the
rappers that are straight up not from the LA area period.
So we'll get at least to the top five, and
then from there I think it brings up immediately somebody
that's really not so at number one is Kendrick Lamar,
number two, Snoop Dogg three, Ice C four, Doctor Dre five, Tyler,

(22:38):
Creators six, DJ Quick seven, iced T eight, b Real nine,
Easy E ten, Nifsey Hustle out the gate. To your point, mal,
I know iced Tea very much made his career on
the West Coast and is a representation of the West Coast.
He's from Norton, New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Mm hmm, he would be Iced Tea would be from
New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Why do you say that because he acts.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Like he Jersey? That makes so much fucking sense.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Is he likes white girls?

Speaker 5 (23:04):
No, not just that because he pimps out white girls
because of the type of you know, we love cocoa,
of course.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
How do you feel about the top ten outside of
the regional debate between Iced Tea and Newark, New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't know. I just think having Game not in
the top ten is blasphemy.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I completely agree with you.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
You know. Then it's the more I look through.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
The list, who would you replace them with?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Game?

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh, I think Game can be in the top five.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Who would you replace him in the top five?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm fine with Tyler going down to six if I'm
if I'm keeping their order and just bumping where games
should be. I'm not mad at the top five if
it's no matter the order. Kendrick Snoop ice Cube, Doctor
Dre Game. I think that is a very fair, fair
top five.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Okay, before we do that, what is the criteria we're
just talking for?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
It's complex, so you never get one.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Okay, So we don't know what the criteria is because.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
As much as I hate beatots list, at least he
puts a criteria at the bottom and says it's because
of these things. Complex is just throws shit out, okay
and makes us all argue without the context. No context,
and complex is what happens every time.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
So they know that we're going to do what we're
doing on our platform and dissect this list and keep
saying complex over and over and over.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Exactly, we stuck to three core principles when sorting our ranking.
This is coming from complex skill as a hip hop artist,
strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence. They
say by skill they mean the entire rap package, delivery, presence,
pen game, overall artistry. They're focusing strictly on rappers, so
while artists like Nate Dogg and Ti Dallas on an

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iconic LA artists, they're fundamentally singers, not rappers. So hip
hop skill, strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
If you're focusing just on rappers and skill, then is
doctor dre An Easy allowed on the list as they
do not write their own raps and have both admitted that,
and it's like, I'm fine with it. I'm I don't
really care. They made incredible music and are the two
probably biggest icons in the LA rap scene ever. But

(25:11):
if you're going off skill of rapping, off their criteria,
not mine. Well, but Doctor Dreyan Easy Are they allowed
to be on the.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
List, Yes, because they explain that by skill they mean
the entire rap package, delivery, presence, pen game, and overall artistry.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
It takes more to be a rapper than.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
But if you're you're taking out one complete pillar where every.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Other person on this play game is the biggest, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Every single artist on here would cover every single pillar
period those two. An entire pillar is gone, gone.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Gone, and the pillar if the pen is the pillar, Like,
as a rapper, that's what you have. You have your
pen as your sword, like.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
If you want to talk about the two most important
people in LA rap history, Drean Easy And I'm fine
with that, But if you're going off that criteria, I
don't know if Doctor Drean Easy E are allowed on.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I think they're allowed on the list. I just don't
think they should be as far up game.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Not in the top ten is crazy. I mean, that's
that's to me. We could just talk about that.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Take out the Pillar shit and it should be Kendrick
snoop icequ Dre and Game for sure.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
I don't know LA politics. I'm not from over there.
Is there? Just like do they hate Game?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Because I feel like he's so disrespected by LA but
so uplifted by New York in other places.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
So that's why is it a thing?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Or I mean Game. I wouldn't ever discredit what he
was doing in the Bay and in LA before he
broke with G Unit. But I mean why I think
Jimmy even put him with G Unit outside of Gunit
being on fire at the time, is that he sounded
and rapped like he was from New York. Of course

(26:50):
he sounds like he's from LA. Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
The way his delivery and lyrical content when he was
on clue tapes, if he didn't constantly say where he
was from, I wouldn't immediately believe that he wasn't from
New York. I think he's even talked about that he
rapped like he was from New York, and I think
that's probably why we all gravitated to him so much,
And I think the record that made him pop per
se was what the Jim Jones certified g's or whatever,

(27:17):
which I means yeah, sure, yeah, which has LA aspects.
But he was with Jim Jones when the world was
really introduced to him, not just LA. So I think
New York has always had a better appreciation for Game
than maybe the rest of the country.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
But I hear you.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
But if that's the case, then Tyler the creator doesn't
always sound like he's an LA artist. He does sound
like he's an LA artist, but he doesn't always sound
like he's He.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Definitely led the newer generation of LA. They call it weird.
I wouldn't call it weird, but that separate like this
isn't the stereotypical LA scene. He led that for sure,
which is where you get some of the new scene now.
But Game at the time, LA had been non existent

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for quite some time. Game single handedly brought the West
Coast back and put a bunch of people on this list,
including the number one artist on their first mixtape on
their first tour, Nipsey Everyone Like. Game not only did
that shit by himself, he brought a bunch of people
with him. He wasn't on some selfish It's just me Like,
I remember Game mixtape shit when kay Dot was on it.

(28:27):
He was meeting with top with the j rock shit
like game. If he's not top five, the only other
way he could be was higher.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, Vince State was at number twenty three. It's pissing
me off. Let me just go ahead and say it.
He needs to be a lot higher.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Say the pillars again.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
The pillars are skill like total skill, strength of a catalog,
commercial impact, and lasting influence. And I think number three
might be the commercial impact, Yeah, might be what's keeping him.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Who has all right, look at the people ahead of
Vince and who has more commercial impact than him, who
has a better catalog.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
In him catalog You're gonna be tough. School Boy does
have a great catalog, YG does.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yeah, But.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I love Dom Kennedy. He's not above Vince Staples.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Some could argue with commercial appeal and Vince Stable. Dom
has a great catalog.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Vince Stables has a great catalog, and he has an
adult flick show fair that's not commercial.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
But they're focusing on the rapper.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Come on, man, Vince needs to be high in that.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I appreciate Nipsey being at ten outside him just being
above the game, which is kind of nice. If Nipsey
does not pass, is he at number ten lasting influence?
I fully understand this deal with what's standible. I mean
over game is insanity, but even over YG game Nipsey, Yeah, respectfully.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, I gotta go to LA in a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I'm not suggesting that Nipsey does not belong on this
list whatsoever. He has hit every criteria or there but
I don't know if against YG with everything, if that,
if we're going off what they said, not off what
the allure of everything is to the public.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
So we've had this conversation before when people say that
jay Z wouldn't be jay Z if Biggie had never died.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
But we'll never know because Biggie died, right.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
So we'll never know if people would have, if the
mass majority of America would have noticed how talented Nipsey
was because he was severely underrated, but before he passed,
they wouldn't have. We don't know if they would have
eventually figured that out. They could have eventually figured that out.
He could have had a hit that went off. Everybody
went back to his catalog and said, oh my god,
Nipsey has been one of the greatest for so long.

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That could have happened, or he could have continued to
be underrated.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
We will never know because he did die, of course.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And let me be clear, I think the Victory Lap
album was the one that was going to start his rise.
I think that's when he finally got the recognition, commercial
recognition that he deserved. He was about to be the
intro of Akalide album. Like, Yeah, Nipsey was on his
way for sure. I'm not saying because he passed, that's
when everyone started to give a fuck, So I'm not
saying that whatsoever. But over somebody like Game and YG

(31:17):
by those criterias is a little crazy to me, even
school Boy, if we're going to get into it. As
far as the older acts, I saw Punch tweet something
I wish they do it in eras. I agree with
him because it is very tough to compare Corrupt to
Vince Staples. It's just completely different times and like it's odd.
I don't even know how you would go about this.

(31:38):
I also don't even know how you put a list
like this together to begin with.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
But you know, chat GBT chat GBT, you know how
to put it together.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Man, If we're going off skill alone, the fact that
Blue is at forty nine is insane. The fact that
Crooked Eye is at forty six is nuts. Will I am.
I think most of his impact did not come from
anything RAP related whatsoever. I thought ras cast was from
the bay.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I don't know what they're doing with this list.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Dragiel ruler for impact. Everyone in LA raps like him.
You can make a case that he could be a
little higher when it comes to impact.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
They gonna kick our ass because they probably gonna be like, no,
you're wrong, You're fucking wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
All of LA was saying they were wrong. I mean shit,
Game Game included then Game put his own list together.
Game did put his own list together.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I look it, which is such a game.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thing to do, and I appreciate when Game does stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
They got Game outside the top ten, which is crazy.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, I don't That's what I'm saying, Like it feels disrespectful,
and that's why I'm wondering if there's like an underlying issue.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Before we get to games. Is it weird that Tupac
is left off when people like Iced Tea corrupt, who's
from Philly, but of course move to LA and that's
where he, you know, made his career. Exhibit is from
like Detroit, New Mexico, like literally not from LA whatsoever.
From Albuquerque, Like when you have people like that on there,

(33:13):
but then say Tupac isn't there, I can see why
that would upset people, even though Tupac maybe lived in
LA for like form, I think I've lived in LA
longer than Tupac did, like I've stayed at the madri
On longer, and I always felt like Tupac if he
was claiming the West Coast was more of the Bay
than he was Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
So they they talked about that as well, and in
the article they say that this putting together, putting this
list together wasn't easy. LA as a transplant town. So
what qualifies someone as an LA rapper? They said, for
this list, it's an artist who creatively came to life
in the city and reflects its ethos and their music.
That's why some big names didn't make the cut. Tupac
may seem like an LA rapper, but he only lived

(33:55):
in the city for a couple of months. Although he
had some big hits under the deth Ro banner, he
was a full formed, platinum selling artists by the time
California Love came out. So I think why they left
some transplants on there and not Tupac is it because
is because Tupac was already a fully formed artist before
he moved to LA whereas the rest of them came
up in La bro.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I feel like that's fair.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm not terribly mad at that. And again, if it
was California, I'd be fine with Pac there because he
spent so much time in the Bay and that's where
he started his rap career for real, was in Oakland,
Marine County. So all right, I'm not mad at the.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Left off the list. Why his first rap name was
MC new York.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You can have a rap on your top LA list
of all time and his first rap name was MC
new York.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, okay, but all right, it can't do that just
because you had a nickname. Like what find me the
vinyl press of the MC new York record? Like, yeah,
that was a thing he said somebody. He said that
in his head when he got to Baltimore. Like that
doesn't mean that was your rap name. I mean, you
can't find an EMC New York song. So now you're saying,
now you're telling Tupac what his rap name was.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
See, that's what you white people do history, no matter what,
even when we're telling you.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I fully, fully disagreed with what his mother was doing
and everything.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Like I'm just saying his he said his rap name
was MC New York.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, but you can have a name.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Because you can't find a vinyl with two because he.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Didn't recording music under that.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Exactly what I'm just saying that maybe that might be
what Complex was, Like, Nah, we can't do.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
That, Okay, but based off what they're saying about exhibit Corrupt, Yes,
those guys moved to LA and that is what started
their rap career. I'm sure Corrupt was rapping when he
was in Philly when he was a kid, but you
can't find those So I'm fine with that criteria. Tupac
got to the Bay, got with Digital Underground and was Tupac.

(35:47):
He wasn't EMBc New York with Digital Underground. It Wasac.
So I don't think it's because that was his name.
I think it was because he really, honestly spent like
six months in LA. He wasn't like really there, he
was with a gang from.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
There, So where is he from?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think Pak is one of those hybrids that just
moved around. That's one of those people you can't really
say where they were from. I think that's why he
like not not like click hopped, but he did. Yeah,
I don't. I don't think he ever really had a
place that he could call home. That's why he rode
for death Row so much, because he finally found a
group of people that he could like also had his back.

(36:29):
He went from New York to Baltimore, to fucking Marin,
to Oakland, than to jail, than the fucking LA and
in Vegas. I think that was just his his mentality
was with different gangs, like he never had a place
that he could call home.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean, these lists always interesting though, because you know,
just just just hearing the conversations going on around the
people that's on it, people that maybe should have been
on there. But this is very, very tricky only because
again you say LA rappers, and a lot of these
rappers are not from La California. Yes, But I like

(37:06):
these types of things too because it also you know,
you get to hear what people think, and you know,
they they start throwing names out there that should have
been on the list. Sugar Free at eighteen. I was
just laughing at that, only because I didn't expect them
to have sugar Free so high. But I'm a sugar
Free fan. I mean that's just me though, but I
respect them having them at eighteen.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
What would be your top five before we get to games.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Before we get the game? Yeah to his list, Oh,
top five l a Cube game, Kendrick net four. That's four.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
And this is your personal I said snoop right.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Oh you didn't say, okay, so Snoop game, Kendrick, Dre
Nick m.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Hm, No, he didn't say Dre No not Dre Cube,
Kendrick game, Nip Nip.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Snoop, okay Cube. I'm sorry not.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, yeah, ice Cube is ice C might be my
favorite rapper.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I was gonna say ice Cube is one of your
favorite rappers?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I know, yeah, Like I mean, just growing up, Q
was You know a lot of people don't don't really.
You know, remember ice cbe before television and film. Ice
Cube was, you know, you go back to his early stuff.
He was a super problem. But you know, Obviously they
got it right. They got him top three, So I'm
not mad at that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, I mean I kind of have an issue with
Snoop Dogg not being number one no matter, like what
if you're going off all those pillars like Snoop is
the most famous rapper that's ever existed, Like you could
argue nobody's had more impact period than Snoop Dogg. So
to me, I even though I've even given snoops desography
some flak because there's just a lot of albums and

(39:05):
a lot of them don't really hit the mark, could
you not say Snoop is the number one LA.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Rapper like I think he would have been before. Obviously
last year he might have had Snoop number one, but
I mean obviously last year happened. So now anything coming
out of LA West Coast, California you talked about rappers,
Obviously Kendrick is going to be the number one on
the list.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I have a Snoop and where we're counting Dre not
with the Penn thing here, I would go Snoop, it
flip flopped between Cube and Kendrick. For me, that's a
two to three, then Dre and then game. That would
be my five, dre your top five. If we're not
counting that he doesn't write, oh shit, if we're just going.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Off I mean yeah, if you count that then of course.
But that's that's a big part of it though, rappers
Like you can't have a rappers list and then somebody
be your top five and they don't write like that's
what are we talking about? Listen.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I've said that from the beginning, but I hear you.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, like you know, if you're not right in your rhymes,
like you can't be top five, I.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Just okay, then Snoop Cube, Kendrick Game, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Tyl, Is he your top five if.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
We're going off all the pillars, impact and lasting, catalog everything, Yeah,
it's a bit's a.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I would yeah, Tyler's.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
There, Like even if it does, even if it sounds weird,
if you look at everything on paper, how would he
not be there? Impact, down to the festivals in the city, like.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Clothing, all of that. Yes, he Tyler is amazing. What
he's doing is amazing. I'm just when you say top
five rappers from California or La.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
No, all the pillars, all the pillars, that know, if
we were going off of skills, I got crooked in
blue like in my Top five.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, I gotta, I just got. I love Tyler, he's dope,
but you know top five is like whoa, Okay.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I just I'd love to be a fly on the
wall for these types of conversations, no input, no nothing,
just to see how they put it together, Like how
did you guys debate? Dojah Cat and Dazz at twenty five?
Both incredible, but like, how do you even get to that?
How does that debate happen?

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Like?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
All right, cool, let's go through their catalogs and see
who's twenty seven, who's twenty six?

Speaker 4 (41:14):
We got? We got? Do we have Tiger over Doja Cat?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Not me?

Speaker 5 (41:19):
If we're going off the pillars, No, if we're going
off the pillars, man, I you know I love saying
Tiger don't miss if.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
We're going off there. If we're going off the pillars,
Dojah and Tiger should be a little higher on this.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Doojah should definitely be higher.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Her pen is crazy, she has the records, she has the.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Impact commercial success.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Can we not say the same about Tiger?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Though?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I know it's fun to make fun of him, That's
what Tiger never not had a hit.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Yeah, but I'm taig ain't not, never had it not.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I'm not saying catalog per se as far as album.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
So that's what I'm saying. Like you're talking about catalogs,
I'm talking like albums like nobody's I'm not listening to
a Tiger album. I might play a Tiger record a song,
but I'm not playing a Tiger album.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
But you got a Tiger.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
I have an album and it should have had five
good singles on it, Yeah, singles and then hit.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And I loved his first album, No Introduction, when he
was rapping like gym Classiceros. Still love that album when
he's found the line in the cocain, I'm.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Gonna keep it a hundred. I don't think I've ever
listened to a Tiger.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Album because he just had so many hits. You never
needed to, Yeah, you never needed to. It was five
on the charts at the time he was fucking he had.
He had an EP on the charts every year.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
How many albums just Tiger put up? I have no clue, Souff.
We got to start asking them type of questions.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
He has eight albums, eight albums, yes, eight albums, not
to count what I think could be theme a era
classic Fan of a Fan with Chris Brown could be
a mid two thousand classic.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Fan of a Fan is a classic fuzz young millennials.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
That's that's a great fucking mixtape.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yees see, I was just listening to other ship. That's
what it was.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
What you was listening to? And what was that came from?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Fifteen?

Speaker 4 (43:01):
What was the original one?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
It had to have been before then.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, I was gonna say this is a Fan of
the fan.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
That Yeah, I tid I'm looking on Wikipedia.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
I'm like I was in high school when the real fan.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Oh, Fan of a Fan mixtape came out in twenty.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Ten, Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Then there was a Fan of a Fan album, which
I'm not even sure what's on this.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, I don't know that either, but Fan of a fanom.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Fan mixtape was that ship twenty ten?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, I wasn't listening. You wasn't listening to Deuces in
twenty ten? Deuces?

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah yeah, that mixtape like doesn't have a skip. It's
not just Deuces.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
He was probably listening to watch the Throne Out repeat
like the rest of us as well.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Twenty ten. It was just a lot it was a
lot of ross.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Oh, it was a lot of ross.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
You know what I'm saying? It was? I was ross
ross was it was other shit going on. I couldn't listen.
I couldn't. I didn't make it. The Fan of a Fan.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Didn't No ceilings come out? Twenty ten?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
That was none, but twenty ten had a egmulator was
then Meek was on fire? What was that first dream
Chasers mixtape with the big Sean Burn record?

Speaker 3 (43:53):
It was? It was just a different energy.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
It was definitely an MMG year for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, I was listening to some different shit. I didn't.
I didn't get to fano a fan.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Like a virgin again. Now that Fan of a Fan mixtape?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (44:06):
All?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Right?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Well, let's quickly get to Games. I appreciate that he
was pissed about this, and he's been quiet lately when
we thought he was gonna say something, so I know
Game has just been pacing around the house and couldn't
just let this go. He has Tupac at number one,
Snoop number two, Ice Cube three, Kendrick four, Game five,

(44:28):
Corrupt six, DJ Quick at seven, Doctor Dre at eight,
Easy E at nine, Exhibit at ten, and so on,
and so forth. We don't have to go through the
entire thing. I liked that he added mister Caponi onto
his list, which I think Complex should have a lot
of the Latino community boycotting outside of their offices. Mister Caponi,

(44:50):
I know you guys don't give a fuck about, but
that's like the fucking nas of Chicano rap. Like, if
you're gonna talk about La he was a huge part
of that city. The fact that he even make the
fact that you guys put blue Face on there and
not him when talking about impact of La Misica, Pony
could be in the top fifteen, like he solidified a

(45:13):
genre out there.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Top fifteen.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, okay, so I appreciate that game added him there.
Hey for a reason.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
There he has reason on the top one hundred.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
He has reason at eighty one. I feel like one hundred,
Like why even why even do that? Like once you
get to blue Face for fifth, like why do we
do we need that?

Speaker 5 (45:37):
I understand. I think he was trying to, like, you know,
not be nice, but he was trying to pay respects
to his city and the artists that he might feel
are getting left out that he loves. I respect that
he did that because one hundred takes a lot of time.
So for him to even take the time to do this, well, I.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Think it's like like Punch had tweeted, I think that
game was trying to cover like errors. He was trying
to include like a lot of the newer guys, which
is dope.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
We newer low key guys. Other than like, reason does
he have on there?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
I'm gonna be honest, I can't even read that shit yet.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I can't. I don't know why he put that shit
in that red right.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, no, he went on and broke it down into
the twenty five so you can read it better. As
far as new rappers, I think that might. I know
he is as there he has as on there, So
to me, like that's where one hundred is not needed
because we don't even know what their careers are gonna
be yet, So like I just think it's kind of unnecessary.

(46:36):
I respect it though, but like you know, west Side
Boogie at sixty two great, but he still has a
full career ahead of them. Kidd Kiddin' got some love.
I love that fifty four. Let's not act like Kidding
didn't have him at that run.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
He has over west Side Boogie.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
No, oh god, I hope not.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
What did you just say?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
West Side was sixty two?

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Ravon is sixty.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
All right? Game?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
That must have been personal. There's no like, come on,
there's no way he has he has Blue Face over
westsid book.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
That's which is cool.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
They must really fuck with blue, They must really fuck
with blue.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, this is kind of that's nuts to have that there.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Maybe I don't know Blue Faces catalog, Like I said,
I don't you know, maybe I'm not aware. I love
Bust Down Theiana, that's my ship, but I don't that's
one song.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
No, that's what I'm saying. I'm not familiar with his catalog.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
For Reenix is still you forgot about that?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
All right? What time is the New York List dropping?

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Y'all making it? We can't trust complex to make it complex, Canna.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I'm sure it's done here. It's about to go out today.
I'm sure beat that.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
You know. Beat DoD was home. He had his du
rag tied extra tight. Oh yeah, you know he was
sick when that LA list came out. You know he
wanted to make that list. Anytime the list come out,
beat Doe gotta be mad. He gotta be heated.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
But why though, because complexes See, I think that's unfair
if you feel that way, because Complex was doing the
list ship before beat out. Was that was That's how
Complex really popped. Was them doing like the twenty three
Jordans of twenty twenty three, like they would just find
anything at the list. Everything was a list. So this
is complex as shit.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
But you know that New York list canna be interesting though,
That's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I'm curious how they break it up.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
THAT'SO.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Can you stop laughing?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Nah man? Because see, you know La when you talk
about the LA list like respectfully, because I'm not from La,
I'll look at it. But it's good to see people
like Game. Somebody's from the West Coast, and you know,
an artists, it's good to see them make a list
because they grew up in the culture. They're from there,
so the music means something different, the artists means something different.

(48:50):
Same way being from New York. The New York lists
come out depending on who puts it out. Me being
from here, it's gonna be some names on that list
where we're gonna be like, all right, hold on, man,
I'm just saying I'm not saying no names yet. I
just know I know the list is coming. New York
is gonna happen, Atlanta list is gonna happen. Fucking a
Texas list might happen. A Florida list might happen. Like

(49:13):
the list is gonna pop, They're gonna start popping the
ball over the place. But New York, we know is next. No.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
The only thing not Boosted with Boost Mobile is the
price is mall. I freestyled that they didn't even tell
me to say that.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Now, that was bars. With Boost Mobile, you pay twenty
five dollars a month forever. That is unlimited talk, text,
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Speaker 3 (49:38):
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five dollars a month as long as they remain active
on the Boost Unlimited plan. I'm just saying there's gonna
be some names on that list where we're gonna have
to sit here and do what we're doing right now.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
But like, all right, enough, well, since we know what's coming,
put yours together now. Because I know it's gonna take
you a while. Put yours together now so that when
they dropped, theirs will drop ours.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
We can do our top five. But before we get there,
why is Childish Gambino at thirty two? He's from Atlanta
and it has always been from Atlanta. I don't even know
if he's ever lived in Los Angeles is he He's
from Stone Mountain, Georgia. He has a show called Atlanta Is,
multiple mixtapes called Stone Mountain. He's number thirty two. Childish

(50:28):
Gambina on games are Complexes Games and I want to say,
Baby King at thirty eight over West Side Boogie is
see what I'm saying, Baby Keen at thirty eight is crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, it's just again man, I'm not from the West Coast,
so you know I'm not gonna go as hard on
that list. But Baby King there you have have an
album out.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
He has one project out that was years ago, which
was cool. I wasn't mad at it, but it wasn't
like one.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Now I'm gonna get you top thirty, top No. Thirty two.
Now I'm gonna get you number thirty two, not all
thirty eight, thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
But again West Side Boogie is at sixty two.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, West Boogie is rapping better than fucking and again,
what are.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
They playing with my boy bug? I don't like that either.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I don't like that whatsoever. I like that Murders got
love on both these lists. He should be a little higher.
If you go through Murrs catalog, it's top top ten
catalog in the West. In my personal opinion, not mad
at that. But let's let's let's do our top five.
Should we do what we think Complex is gonna do?
Top five New.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
York Complex is gonna do?

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Top five New York one, jay Z two, NAS three,
Nicki Minaj for.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Oh, let's let's write Josh right these down for de
Marris's prediction for a.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Complex, Yeah, I don't know who they will put at
at four. I'm trying to think of who they would
put in that spot.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
You know exactly who they're gonna put that for?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Who that know that.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
They might do?

Speaker 4 (52:01):
They might do It's complex on Complex. Some niggas play
a sab Rocky, they.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Might put him at one. They may do Top one
Rappers of New York City a sap Rocky.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Damn would they.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Do featuring Clams Casino?

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Would they do Jadakiss for four.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
If you think Jada Kiss is making top four on
a complex, listen, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
I think the podcast.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Now, the podcast, that's what complex respect got him, That's
what putting over that edge. It's like, so now you
see he has four episodes like.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
So disrespectful and the ll cool j LL is not
making a top five complex.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
They gotta do one like old school one to them
who they think is old school, they got it.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Old school Jay is old school true.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Like eighties type ship. Yeah, okay, since they had exhibit
on the LA one, they have to have people from
Long Island, right, I'm gonna go similar to Damaruss. I
think jay Z nas Nikki is going to be the three.
I think that's gonna be the.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
They might put jay Z Nikki nas I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
All right, let's put ourselves. Let's put ourselves in the
writer's room, trying to give me a Let's put ourselves
in the writer's room. I can see them putting Nikki
at three to stir up some controversy, or I can
see them putting Nicki at like eighteen to really piss
the barbs and get I'm not saying Nikki deserves to
be an eighteen.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
But they're not gonna do that. That's too much of
a stretch. They're not gonna do that. She's gonna be top.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
That's too much of a stretch.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Fifteen, He's gonna be top ten for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Okay, this is my prediction. Jay Z at one, Nas
at two, Nikki at three, Biggie at four, rock him
at five.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
So jay Z at one, where you forgot big.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Biggie, jay Z at one, Biggie at two, Nikki at three,
Nas at.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Four, I don't know. We're allowed to change. I'm gonna once,
so let's comes out and change my money.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
You ain't even have big.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I could see them putting Biggie lowered again to cause
controversy and write like yo, you only had two albums
type ship. I could see that happening. That's a very
complex thing to do, is to put Biggie at like nine.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
They gonna put Pak on there, New York, They're gonna
put Pac on there.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Hasn't complex done something like this though already.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
I'm sure they have.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh this was all right, This was August of twenty
twenty three. But I feel like they'll redo it just
because the LA one went off.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Definitely like, yeah, I feel like we talked about one.
It's yeah, three we.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Did because I feel like every year, every year shuffled this.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
This is August of twenty three. Jay Z at one,
Biggie at two, Nas at three, Rock Him at four,
ll at five, then goes six fifty seven, Nicki Minaj eight, DMX.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
I remember us being pissed. Ice Spice made the list.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Nine buster rhymes. I'm curious one. I do remember talking
about this list, but I can see them redoing one.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I'm glad l was on the top five.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
What number was Nikki again?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Seven? Seven seven? Say she's top ten?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Sure? All right if they redo it? What's your prediction
for the five? Has to be different than the.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
One prediction or just my five?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
No prediction for complex uh JD naj big.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I think they keep it the same.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
L O rock Him okay, And they've also done in
l A one before, so I definitely think they're gonna
do another New York one. What do you think they're
Atlanta one would be?

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Who would the Atlanta be?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Future thug g Z, Gucci.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
They gonna have Gucci at one. They don't play about
fucking Gucci.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
And maybe three thousand.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Okay, I'm gonna go Future at one for Complex, Andrea
at two, t I at three, Thug at four, g
Z a five, but also g Z like isn't really
from Atlanta. I don't know how it works, but Complex
doesn't care. Complex doesn't care to marriage your Atlanta one

(56:27):
and then we can move on.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
My Atlanta one is for what Complex? What I think
Complex will say?

Speaker 5 (56:33):
I think Complex is gonna go Future at one, Ti
at two, mm hmmm, A lot of at three?

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Wait? What this is?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
What?

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Complex? Remember what we're talking about a lot of a three? Uh,
Thug at four, Gucci at five, A.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Lot of at three is hilarious?

Speaker 3 (57:00):
All right?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Well, thank you Complex for always stirring up nonsense when
we don't even need it. But with that said, the
diamonds look like peepe you hate off man?

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Meanwhile, Yeah, so what am I hating on clips?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Nah?

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Record is hard?

Speaker 4 (57:16):
You can't hate on the clips?

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Whoever hated on the clips? Who did that?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I mean, I'm sure all the Ovio communities have been
doing that, hating.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
On the clips.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I'm sure they have.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Man, you can't, Ah, Trump is the song is hard? Yeah?
Like that ship pretty for the production is crazy. That's
one of those I want to hear, like, I want
to hear a few rappers take that and do something
to that.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, that would be if this was still the freestyle era,
there'd be twenty radio freestyles right now over that ship.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
They've been asking us to get on it.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Who's us?

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Me and Rory?

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Who's asking for that? Whose days?

Speaker 6 (57:49):
You got to stop saying that the new hurry of
moment nobody as shy play off of our back that
we did when we immercenated, when we are a person
push up.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
They've been asking for us to join, to jump on
so Rory, we gotta we gotta do.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
That this week.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Yeah, Ballerina's doing Piroetes inside my snow globe and something
I would have said, There's.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Not nothing you would have said, There's absolutely nothing. You've
never said that. You've never said nothing close to that.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
When I heard when I heard nas Rewind, I was like, oh,
I would have done.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
That too, No, talk about would never said anything.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I would have. I would have approached the p s
A beat the same way.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
J He like what I'm just saying, That's something I would.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Have said that bar Is crazy. Nallice went fucking off
on this record.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Niggas is my son said, that's not repeat. Definitely something
I would have said. But yeah, Malice went crazy and
he didn't curse to you entire time. He's bringing real
hip hop back, real hip hop.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I feel like they even cursed the rappers the like
only well, only Will Smith didn't curse in his wraps,
broken vals everywhere. That's explicit content for sure.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, No, that was crazy talking.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
About snow globe ship too, for sure. I really love
the record. I was a little nervous with the whole
chad in Pharrell thing. Of course, we know Farrell has
produced plenty of shit by himself, but that was a
thing coming up to this, like, all right, we're getting
a Farrell produced Clips album again, but there is no
Chad involved in this. I'm not mad so far. He's

(59:20):
one for one. Farrell is probably the best. Him and
Swizzs are the best at making the most simplistic beats
sound incredible.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeah, this No, the production on this on this record
is incredible. Like, I like this record a lot.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Like the approach and pockets that they both picked. I'm
really really excited for this album.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
What's your favorite uh lyric? Are your favorite bar?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
It's the snow Globe shit for sure, but the Ali
Baba to Lady Gaga shiit was insane to me too.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
I mean it's people in line say Malice he got
Push on this.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
One, but that's not I mean, Push got way better
posts the clips. With his solo career. Malice was always,
let's not act like back in the day, no one
was ever discredling Push as a rapper, but Malice was
always like the one Push would get him a few times.
But I feel like Pushes even admitted that his brother

(01:00:15):
was the better rapper. Push just got much better with
his solo career. So I'm really excited to see this one.
But I feel like Malice got pushed on his last
solo project. Malice Versus was one of my favorite verses
of that year. Yeah, twenty twenty two or whatever, Malice
is Malice though, like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
No, no, no, listen, I'm very aware of the clips
one of my favorite groups, and this you know production
with Pharrell. It's definitely you know, it's good to see
them still working together. And then the thing I'm most
suppressed of is how long they've been at it. And
how good they still sound like that's it to me.
That's like you know when you say this rap is

(01:00:54):
a young man's sport to a degree, yes, but when
you have you know, the clips and phar real still
able to deliver and and give us joints that sound
like this, it ain't no to me. It's no really,
it's no young no wyans can't give us this sound.
They can't give us this talk. They can't. They're not

(01:01:14):
even this clever or this this witty in there in
their bars and the entendres and things like that, Like
this is the type of rap that you know, a
certain sector I think appreciates in the community.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
You got to learn how to read. You gotta learn
how to read. You got to learn how to travel,
and you got.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
To learn how to travel, learn how to know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
But this isn't I'm talking about rapping. It's not just
about they're not just rapping about drugs. They had to
have read books, seeing things, experience things for your vocabulary
to open up this wye, for you to be able
to make references about things from other countries. And yeah,
you gotta travel, you gotta make money, you gotta read.
And even if you don't have the money. You got
to read about the places that you can't travel. Reading

(01:01:54):
is fundamental, and these new rappers don't read.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
They can't read, read, they can't even talk. Have you
earn some of these new artis just like in the interview, Yo,
you feel me, feel me, film me feel me, film
me fielm me feel me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Nigga, No, I can't feel a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Film me, fielm me, film me, fielm me feel me.
Bro Yo, bro, Bro, this is a female you're sitting
across from. It is a woman, you know, film me, bro, bro,
bro Bro, You know what I'm saying, Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Bro, I mean time, what time?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Get your dumb ass up and shut up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
But that's because there there on the drugs, drugs. They're
not selling the drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
They're on drugs. They're selling drugs. They're on the drugs
and they're selling more, selling the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Drugs today, friends their friends selling them back. They just
doing like drug fucking switches, drug musical chairs.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Drug musical chairs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Like let me hold that pill I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Just sold you, same way can I that chain for
this video? Let me let me get just to the perks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Now, give me those two perks I just sold you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
And I mean labels don't even have the staff to
do media training that's been done everyone. They used to
get fab a lot of bullshit FAB was and media training.
He's not good at interviews. The fab smokes looks like
Einstein compared to it's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
It's bad like they I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
He's Neil de grass Tyson compared to this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Yeah, like these these these new artists, these young and
a lot of these young casts. They I mean, it's
just like my god, like you can't even hold a conversation.
It's sad, but you know, it's good to hit a
clip still in shape. I'm looking forward to hearing what
else they got on this project. If it sounds anything
like this Ace trump is joint, then you know this

(01:03:28):
it's gonna be a good listen for me. Like I
appreciate this type of nostalgia and this type of this
type of attention to detail when you talk about rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I appreciate this, and uh, I feel like push Malice
and Ross. Even though there's a million on tendras in
this Ace of Trumpets record, those three rappers, to me,
are the best at saying very simple things and delivering
it in a way. That sounds so amazing. Soho shopping Spring.
You should have seen it. It's not even that crazy,

(01:03:56):
but I was. I'm like, I was just on broad Way.
How I missed that shit? You should have seen it?
How do you deliver it that good? Like Ross be
saying some really basic shit, but it sounds better than
all of your favorite rappers when they do complex shit. Pusher,
Malice and Ross are masters at this type of shit.

(01:04:16):
The very simple delivery. You catch every word. You may
not catch the entendra, but you catch every single syllable word.
It all sounds amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
The delivery and rap is very important.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Like Push as an elite MC. Still, where were you in?
Big Meat brought the tigers the like he has more
memorable stuff like that on top of his entendrius that
separates him to me from everyone else. Like they not
doing RAPPI rap rap rap. They found a very specific
fun fun pocket, a fun pocket that a lot of
people could fuck up like that could get tiresome for

(01:04:51):
thirty two bars. They are masters at that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Type of shit.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
But see that's why going back rosses to it that
going back to when we were talking about our complex
list and they said skill and the majority of the
pillars of skill. Only one of them was actual pen
The rest of it was delivery the way that you
break it down like that's a very very important thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Easy as one of the best deliveries ever. Even Dre's
delivery is incredible. That fucking the horrible line if if
I slipped and I slipped and I'm slipping, I'm still slipping,
awful fucking bar delivered incredibly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
That shit hit back in the data. Still it's not
And if I got my Nina and then you know shit,
and I'm gonna continue to put the B down, put.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
The MAC down, snoops. Fan was crazy shit, It's important.
I did see we spoke last episode that there was
rumblings about Kendrick verse from before and then we thought
because of the rock Nation situation that they may have
a jay Z verse. I saw that Stove God tweeted

(01:05:52):
that he is on the album. We know there's only
two features, so I do not think we're getting a
jay Z feature on this. I believe it is still
Oh God, which is confirmed. And I think that Kendrick
feature from Chains and Whips when they did the Lousvitan
fashion show that like Jim Jones dis that was the
one that Kendrick was rumored to be on, and then

(01:06:12):
we never heard anything from it. Push a T went
and did an interview and said that they wanted to
put this out last year, but when they brought it
to Deaf Jam, this was right after the Drake and
Kendrick beef, and they wanted Kendrick to more or less
censor his verse because of everything that was going on.

(01:06:33):
Push said, fuck that. They got into some legality shit
which led to the clips getting off deaf Jam as
well as Push a T getting off deaf Jam. Oh wow,
because of this entire thing, and they were able to
shop it around and that's why there was a delay. Now,
I'm sure there's always a bunch of different things behind
the scenes that added to this, but that is kind
of fucking insane. Yeah, and according to Push or this article,

(01:06:59):
I believe the bar isn't even that crazy. From Kendrick,
therapy taught me how to open up. It also showed
me I don't give a up. I don't think it
was the bars per se that they wanted to censor.
I think it was def Jam saying Drake's two biggest
ops are coming together. At this exact time to put
a record out, which kind of I don't know. Do

(01:07:20):
you think it contradicts or helps the lawsuit that Drake
is going through.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Why would it contradict it or help it that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I guess this would be proof that they were aware
of his brand and also wanted to protect it in
the midst of this entire thing, which could go against it,
but couldn't a lawyer also prove that they were very
much aware when they said that they support both of
their artists and they would never stop an artist from

(01:07:51):
doing anything. This does contradict what Universal said already. Sure,
it does prove what Drake's lawyers were saying and was like,
what we would never that's crazy. We would never get
behind in ours. We don't treat any artist with any
type of special privileges or anything. But even though this
is on Drake's side, it still is proving that that

(01:08:11):
does happen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah, but we know that even if this didn't, if
this never came out of Push, it never made any
mention of this happen, and we know that that does happen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I just I don't know that Push It to me
is not a liar. I just think There has to
be more to this than just this sentence, because why
after a record that calls somebody on your label that word,
would you be upset about or try to block a
clips in Kendrick song that doesn't talk about Drake whatsoever?

(01:08:44):
Like the damage was done, This wouldn't this wasn't gonna
do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
What was the bar?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
The only bar that they mentioned? All right, I'll def
jam sparen com to umgu said the optics of two
of Drake's biggest enemy linking on wax Push calls their
apprehension stupid, primarily because none of the bars and kendricks
otherwise excellent verse could be perceived as a shot or
even a sub. It does, however, contain the stellar line.
Therapy taught me how to open up. It also showed

(01:09:12):
me I don't give.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
A fuck what that's fucking stupid. Push it up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I actually love the writing this push it can barely
contain his disgust recounting the stalemate with def Jam. They
wanted me to ask Kendrick to censor his verse, which
of course I was never doing, and then they wanted
me to take the record off. And so after a
month of not doing so, their lawyer said, well, we'll
drop the Clips, but they can't do that because I'm
still there as a solo artist. If you let us
all go, this is that an order? Sure enough, def

(01:09:41):
Jam eventually agreed to release the Clips and drop Push
as a solo artist, freeing the duo up to shop
for a new home with a finished Clips album and
plenty more music in their pockets.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Yeah, I think that was just uh, I mean, could
it be a thing where they just felt like the
song wasn't good?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
That Chains and Whip song was fire. It was premiered
at the Lloyis Vauton fashion show in Paris. That was
the one that Jason Beyonce. You could see they was
writing lyrics in their head to it, like that record
is fine, it's like leak now that not you know,
the highest version of it, but you can listen to
it on YouTube now. And it was rumors at that

(01:10:16):
time Kendrick was already on it. They just didn't play
his verse in Paris. No, that record is that record
is too five?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
I think that that's I don't I don't understand any
of that. I understand why why def Jam would even
I mean, if he's not even mentioning Drake in the
in the verse, why would you even ask push it
to have it to have Kendrick since it like, I
don't to me to.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
Assume no matter what, because of the time it was
coming out, people would assume everything in it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Okay, that's fine, people can assume whatever. But for the
label to go to push it and say, yo, like
tell Kendrick not what like that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Just to me, that's just okay conspiracy. Did they already
have some type of worry that Drake was going to
sue them or heard rumblings after the beef that that
would happen, and now they're trying to cover their ass
because this would be another point, not to say it
proves anything, but something you can put in the paperwork
of these are two people that have said very disparaging

(01:11:11):
things about me. You're now releasing a record they have
together and putting money behind it. I could see Drake's lawyers.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Evidence it could have been added as a little byoline
in the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Not to say that that really does anything, I think
in Drake's lawsuit because it's like they didn't say anything
about them. But I think I don't know if does
it add more fuel. Like I feel like major corporations,
when there's a possibility they could even be sued down
to like the smallest sample that could be debatable, they're
gonna say no just to cover their ass, like legal
teams do. They don't even want to hear the music.

(01:11:42):
They don't even give a fuck about anything art related.
They're just there to say no. So I could maybe
see that being a thing because they were already heard
possible litigation rumors of what was going on. It's like,
we really can't do this, even I don't think that's
really illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I just I don't know that's you know, def
Jam doing that is just that's just that seems a
little weird. That's that's no, that's very weird. Actually not
a little. That's very weird for them to approach push
it and just doesn't make no sense, Like especially if
the line he's not talking about him, not going at
him and any type, it just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
I mean, but if that's the case, like amazing to
get off the label that way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Oh no, I mean I'm sure you know they're happy
about it, you know, like, oh shit, like we basically
got a free walk, Like we're out of here. But
it's just I don't know. It just doesn't make I
feel like it's more to that story. That's just that,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I'm not saying it's false, just there has to be more.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Has to be more to that. It has to be
That makes no sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Because what are you censoring in the verse?

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Exactly? That's what I'm saying. It just like I don't know,
maybe he's just trying to not trying to really get
into it, and you know whatever. But that part of
the story to me is it has to be more
that that makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Well, I mean between Chains and Whips. I assume now
that they're off Deaf Jam, that song is definitely coming
out with that Kendrick verse. And then we also have
the stove Gude feature. So there's our two features.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
I think there was a I think there's another feature though,
I think the feature you were alluding to what they
were saying, uh, we'll push it was saying he's waiting
for the feature. M you saying that you think it's
a whole feature. I think nads. Okay, I think a nos.
I think a nas verse may be on this album.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Well, they kind of alluded to it in this article
as well. The label love what they heard, except for
the Kendrick Lamar guests verse on Chains and Whips, the
final version of the song that ferralties at his first
ELV Runway show. The song Pushes says was the first
to come out of their sessions. Don't be fooled by
Pushes interviews appealing for one last guest verse, and the
Twitter jokes that he went to a GNX toward day

(01:14:01):
to physically walk Kendrick into the nearest studio. Ka Dot's
homework has been turned in for a while now, so
I think that's still coming out, as is the change
and Whips thing. Oh yeah, And they said there was
two features, so a NAS one would be fire. But

(01:14:21):
if they're sticking of that, I think we're only getting
stoven Kendrick.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
This stove God, that feature gonna be because listen, man,
it's not too many that could talk that, you know. Yeah,
that went to talk that snow white talk like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
Stove in like I am about to make a hundred
thousand next.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
No, now you want to now you want to be stove?
Now you she's about to go. We were calling her
stove missus stovey through she got mad, so that was
her ax, Like okay.

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Because yeah, because y'all are making fun of like it's
funny when y'all do it from like people who aren't
from my hometown, Like that's it's not funny. But yeah,
a way, support Stuf were about to flip some ship. Boy,
I'm about to make a hundred thousand, I swear to god,
I'm about to go crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
He's about to be the most motivated song of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I was doing what lashes do one hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
She's gonna date a drug dealer that buys her the
last spot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
No, you know they can't wait to get that boy
in my studio pay my boufrint.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Push that he might date. I'll mentioned yank r rib
out Push is gonna do everything for our girl.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Day cha bitch and pull her rib out yank or.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Rib out like buy her new body?

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
You know? Like is that what that meant?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
That's how I interpreted, Yes, unless you talk more romantic.
And he was suggesting like an Adam and eves like
theirs her rib now.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
Or she does so much coke that she just gives
real skinny. But I think he meant surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Yeah, I don't want that girl that does too much coke.
That she's skinny now.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
But were about to flip a brick? Why the head
is crazy, her back, her throat always numb.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
And dry, cotton mouth. I'm cool this stove God, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Some new hips and yank or rib out. Yeah, imagine
pushed by bio chicks some hips and then you come
home and there's a rib on account.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Get a body done. I get it. Yeah, I'm looking
forward to that stove feature though, I'm looking forward to that.
I got it here. I got to hear the greasy
talk on that stove is one of the few that
I feel like probably when it comes to that type
of talk may be just a little slicker than pushing mate.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Oh ship, that's that's you, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Yeah, Like if you go and listen to a reasonable drought,
there's not many people that could. I was very impressed
by stove God on that entire project, like his his cleverness,
his wittiness when it comes to that type of again,
that that certain talk is. I'm not saying he did it,
but he had to. He was in the house when
it happened. He was I'm not. I'm not putting that

(01:16:53):
on him.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
I'm not doing that because Niggas is listening. I'm not
saying he did anything, but he may have been around,
because you can't just talk like that and not have
been in close proximity.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, and the amount of like coke entendres we've heard
over the last twenty years. To be able to like
really revive that genre takes a clever type of person.
I feel like I've heard every coke bar on Earth,
and then reasonable Drought came out and I was like, oh, like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
What he said is what you do after the brick bitch,
I'm Draymond. Niggas. Don't even talk like you can't even listen. Listen, listen. No,
I'm being serious right now. I'm not even trying to
cause no jokes, no laughs. It's what you do after
the brick bitch, I'm Draymond. Niggas. Don't rat. They don't
talk like that. You can't these rappers, not even they

(01:17:39):
they wi Fi, they bandwidth. Don't even let them go
that to that, Like, you don't even talk like that.
Like that's to me, that type of slick, you know,
those lines is what separates stole from everybody else. But
to have him with guys like you know, Malice and
Push who do that very well, it's just gonna be
interesting to hear. And and I need to know rapers etiquette.

(01:18:03):
I need to know if Pushing Malice's verse was done
first and after Stove has sent his verse the day
you saying that, and I hope so, I hope so.
I hope we keep it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I think there's a world where Stove gets them for sure.
I'm saying out of like Pushing Malice, not check. They're
probably just gonna sit there, like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
I hope not. I hope they kept it raped, keep
it rapped. You don't want you hand it?

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
So as a rap e etiquete, all right, that's rappers etiquette.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
You can't change your verse, can change your verse after
I send mys in, Because if I send my verse
in and then that a song come out and your
balls is different than when I got it, We're gonna
have a real problem. Now. It's like, no, I don't
do that. Don't do that. Like y'all sent me the record,
y'all bars was done. Y'all say yo, listen, we done.
We just need your joint. I listened to where y'all
was going with it, okay, cool, and I went where

(01:18:53):
I went with it. And now that the album is
out and done, it's like, now, y'all, balls is different.
Like even if it's one or two balls, that's still
a problem. You can't say it has to be whatever
I heard. It has to be that hm hm, So
I but I need to know who because they could
have said they could have stove to be with no verses.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Okay, so I never did a feature verse, so this
is new to me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
But what if I say, hold on, hold on, what baby?
Did we know you never did a feature verse?

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
I was just I'm just saying, like I usually, I'm
J Coley fourteen, like, no features, So that's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Who you are, Yeah, that's who you see yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
What I'm saying is what if I was I mentioned
a bitch that I ain't fucking with no more, so
I switched the.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Name of the bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Okay? Not following you saying he said I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
You can't change even one or two lines, like, you
can't change nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
That's the old rule.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
A name. If you don't want a name in it,
that's fine, that's just a name you don't want. That's
a name drop. That's no. I'm talking about like a
bar like, not a name, a bar like. It's like
either that bar wasn't there, or you added something that
rappers ETI quit. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
There'll plenty of rappers do do it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Well, of course they do, but I'm I don't. I
highly doubt pushing Malage do that. But I'm just saying
because again Stove God talks different when it comes to
that type of talk. So they may have heard something
even been like oh that was clever, like I like
the way, and they had to put one of those,
and they in they verse you understand. I'm still it
happens like so you're just getting inspired by somebody on

(01:20:23):
a record with like Yo, that was hard.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
But that's the onliest thing is when rappers have their
verse done but just send the feature just to beat,
then get their shit back and see if they have
to redo it, because then the feature is never gonna know.
They'll never be the wiser whether you had a verse
there or not. But I'm with changing if it does
fit the song, Like if we're gonna both reference things,
I think that's fine, but usually that comes from the

(01:20:45):
artists sending over their verse as well, and the feature
going off what they already have laid down there. You're
doing it the other way around. That's I think that's
against rapper etiquette.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
But yeah, but I'm not mad.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Okay, we're gonna be talking. We know they're gonna be
talking slick.

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
Listen, I'm really I got so excited about that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
I'm really really excited.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Like here's the thing though, Like both Push and Malice
have admitted in their lyrics that they don't know about
this new era of drugs. Stove be going crazy with
the Defend and All ship, Like his ship is happening
right now in like the country. Like he's so about
relative like pushing Mouse to talk about the fucking crack
era and Reagan and all that ship. Now he's talking

(01:21:25):
about fucking Biden ship right now. He talk about what's
coming over the border currently current drugs. That LeVar Ball
scheme he has on my album is absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
That's why they paid you, because you know how, I'm
not gonna give the Vall scheme is one of the
crazy ships I've ever heard. Listen, I won't give that
one away, I will say he does stop the beat
and say, I'm the fentanyl Faara com powder all my
fear of gods. And I went like this when I
heard the ship, see.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Why are you giving up? Take his ship for it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Even drop like copy written already paperwork, Okay and listen.
You know I viewed this when I saw Stove Ship
clips Uh Stove God July eleventh, when the clips album
comes out, you know, I personally got excited because my
ship's coming after that. Let's just get the Stove ship
higher and higher for one my ship dropped with them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. Ain't gonna lie. I
was very I was very happy when I heard Stove
was gonna be on this, uh this cliption. I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
I'm ready for them to give the second best wrapper
out of Syracuse's motherfucking props. Like I'm I'm ready for
the mainstream to know how good he is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
I'm ready for that. It's been a long time come.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Speaking of Syracuse. Yeah, how did sh it's all over?

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Where do you miss all the jokes?

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
I thought it was? I don't know, well, I thought
he was from Rochester.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
No, he's that's why when I say, from my hometown.
He's from my hometown.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
I thought he's from Rochester. Who's from Rochester? M somebody
else Rochester thirty specially from Rochester. Yes, those from Rochester
kind of get a mixed up to guys I listened to.
I knew, I knew somebody. I'm like, I'm I kind
of threw. I knew that Stove was from up you know,

(01:23:13):
he was from he was up there on the interstate
going off.

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
I knew that from theists around baby central Central New York.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Real shout out the Stove.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Scariest cities in the whole state up there, Syracuse, just
upstate cities in general are tarrolined me. Rochester might be
the scary Rochester.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
We don't Rochester is we don't. We don't go over there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
We don't go over there in Rochester.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Is I'm cool, bro, everything the light touches as ours
that all this ship. We don't go over there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Like we cool.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Qus is scary in certain parts, but at least like
there'll be some you know, you go campus, there's like
some hope. Yeah, Rochester and Niagara are the scariest places
on earth.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Every city got a scary place, but the whole city.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Yeah, like New Haven has Yale at.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Least pistol Waven.

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Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
On every man. All of that shit was bullshit, man,
all oh, I'm fine saying that all of it. Man,
cut it out, but it was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Like seven million dollars. He kind of blew the opportunity
with the looks that they gave him when he was
doing the lion shit rolling loud, the glorilla thing. You
can't say, def jam fucked this up. Oh No, they
gave him all gave him every look. Yeah, they gave
him all the pass coach, they gave him all of
you know, NBA All Star Weekend. They had every single look.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
They gave him every look that every rapper that deserves
a look should have.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
A scorching hot glorilla and a great gloriala verse, just
not on a good song. Yeah, that snippet to what
booted up is the name of it? Come on, man,
it's over.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
It was over when it starts. See this is why
I get mad with y'all because I say ship before
it happens. Y'all look at me like, well, you don't know, mall.
You can't say that it's the new. This ship was
bullshit from the start. I told you that song was trash.
I don't agree that. You don't listen to that ship.
You don't hear it nowhere. They're not playing that record nowhere.
It's over. That ship last ed, you know, two weeks

(01:26:43):
on the timeline. Nobody's talking about that record.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
We lasted through All Star fucking line like that was
a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Where that was three weeks an All Star game and
fucking the Lions game.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Ma, where do you be at this is?

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
And you say this about a lot of music, and
respectfully because I know you and I know you don't
be nowhere but in your goddamn house.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Yeah, where do you be? Where you be?

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Like, yo, hear that ship nowhere? You don't?

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
You know what I said when I said I don't
hear and they was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Trying to tell you that, And they go out get
booked constantly, like we play that record every single time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Did your you think DJR Drama plays that record?

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
He said in our group chat multiple times. When you're
saying nobody cared.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
About some about you line, you don't play that record
and if you do play it, you play you just
play the hook and get right into something else that's
that time as opposed to what's not. Even the DJ's
are DJing based on timeline ship. Yeah, the fuck out
of here with that ship. I don't care if you
niggas got your phones out making videos for the time record.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
They play in full period.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
They don't play nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Even when we liked the era of music, they weren't
doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
I'm not saying I'm not saying you have to play.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
The Nigga's a Prodigy's third verse on shok one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that that record, all
of that ship was gimmick shit. That whole Jello ship
was gimmick shit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Oh wait, hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
We never argued that it wasn't a gimmick no, but
I was like, no, this is hard because it was.
It was. It was not not y'all niggas was y'all
was cloud chasing you Jello conspiring together? Yes, exactly, y'all
was cloud chasing. Yeah, that ship was trash. I got
zero cloud on that record. Trash. You made a video.
You posted a video of your story to that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
He didn't not have you ever seen period, So I
don't even do that to my own music.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
I saw you post the video. I ain't gonna lie yo.
Def jam might have caught one the fuck out of
here with that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
January thirdy came out. It lasted to at least the
end of March early April, and.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
That's a long time for a song from artists.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
I'm not gonna last. She ain't last, and nobody played that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
Ain't He can bounce back from this because we saw Gloilla,
who was having quite arguably last year was one of
the greatest years ever in music for her. We saw
her drop that hot, hot bowl of piss that was
that fucking ship, and she bounced back and had a
let's not have.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Like Lorella didn't have a better rest.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Glorilla is a way better artist, she's a she's a
way better rapper.

Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
She had the two songs, she had the two hit songs,
so she had one more than Jello, but yeah, she
only had the teacher. She had tomorrow too, and she
had the original, her original song, and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Then came out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
That's what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Everybody was saying her career was over, and she bounced back.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Yeah, but this is different. This Jello shit is out
of here. We could wrap this up, we could pack
all this, boot it up, pack it up, suit it up,
all of that can go. This is just not that.
Come on, let's just be real. It's now we know
what this is. They chasing something, They chasing the moment,
that's all it is. And that's where the music gets
fucked up at when you start signing artists and giving

(01:29:45):
them these advances and giving them all these looks and
instead of the third bro, nobody wants to hear that
ship that she's gonna last for two months. And then
it's like all right, man, like we're not posting that
on our timeline no more. It just is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Well, I mean, they just went the Glorilla record and
this booted love shit. It's just shittier versions of the
original song, where like glow RelA yeshit was awful, but
then you get a yeah, glow like. I don't know
if Jello is capable of that. We've only seen him
be capable of making a shittier version of his hit record.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
He's chasing that same type of yeah, it's not yeah, man,
that's not it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
And what he doesn't understand is that record went off
because it was different than what's out right now. It
sounded different, which is why it went off so much.
To keep trying to repeat it with not it's not
going to hit the same unless you're a phenomenal rapper,
and he's not a phenomenal rapper. So but I kind
of want him to win. I don't know, I'm kind

(01:30:43):
of like rooting for him. I want him to come
back with something better.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
I'm for anybody black to win. But I'm just saying
I'm also being honest and be real with you. That
ain't it. That's all. I'm just a consumer. I love
the culture, love the art. I'm just being out. That's
not it, bro, Go back in the lab, work on
your skills, set a little bit, find your your true identity.
Don't try to find it through the balls, because niggas

(01:31:07):
try to find themselves through their bars. Who I want
to be today, no, no, nice, go home, figure out
who you are first? Are you a ball player? Is
just this rap just a hustle because it's a hustle
for a lot of niggas? Is it just a hustle
for you? Didn't hustle? I ain't mad at it, but
you can't hustle me. I know what hustle when I
see a hustle.

Speaker 5 (01:31:25):
Who else in history would you say that you've seen
try to find themselves through the bars?

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Who else tried to find themselves through the in history?
Some would argue Tupac? Some would I get why you
say that, because Tupac when he first came out, it
was more fun, loving more, you know, digital Underground was
a more fun type of energy vibe. But I mean,

(01:31:51):
I don't know. I mean things happen in possible real
life that I think caused his energy and demeaning to
change through his music. So I mean that's not I
can't say, no, I don't. I don't agree with Tupac
on that we understand why pop's energy and demeanor changed
in his music.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
But what do you mean by that question?

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
What hasn't every rapper that's good found themselves through their lyrics?

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
No, for some rappers come in the game knowing exactly
who they are before they start rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Oh, you're saying someone that makes a complete new identity
who they are. Oh, I mean almost all rappers have
been accused of it, but I don't know if there's
been a flat out rapper that's we know for a fact.
This is just a complete different version of you. Have
you guys heard like a CB four situation.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
You're saying like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
That, that's what this yellow shit felt like to me?
Have you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Yeah, I'm not. We were never mad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
At like C before.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
It's mc gusto mgk's new song. Have you guys heard that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Yeah you said, yeah, of course, but no, I'm sorry
I heard the song's only fifteen seconds long?

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Right? Are you only seen on time? I like me, Yeah,
he's god like a car wash. Somebody throws him a
mop and he starts like, what is that ship man?

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Yeah, it's you know, it's I mean, it's difference called cliche.
Oh maybe he's doing like method acting because it's called cliche.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
That's what he's doing. Themes he's acting like every boy band,
every This is ufo, this is who's's Nickolas Shay.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
From ninety degrees, ninety eight degrees.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
This is that one, this is InSync, this is jeopardy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
It's not I think it's more like two thousand's alternative.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Yeah yeah, than it is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
It's like when like bling on a two and pop
when you know I like it, but it's just I
know what it is. This is gonna control TikTok and
the younger generation. Like I don't know, I guess when
you see ship like that, can you be mad at
an artist if their goal is money and relevance. I'm
not saying that's mgk's actually actually never thought it was.

(01:33:59):
And i'mnna not even saying he doesn't not like this record,
but this is a clear, clear not even attempt a
success at you are going to own TikTok for young kids?

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Well yeah, I mean obviously he knows what he's doing.
It's called cliche for a reason. I mean, I think
he's speaking exactly to what you just said, you know,
chasing TikTok social media.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
It's like a parody of a TRL record in two
thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
You gonna play it, Mara, No, good job, such a.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Smart I'm not, but I mean, I don't know MGK,
like I'm again, I'm sure he would come out and
be like, no, I actually liked this song, Like I
grew up on this and MGK and I are probably
the same ageor around a year difference. I grew up
on that type of rock music too, So he can
hide behind that part of like, no, this, I really
like this stuff. And you've seen me do rock music before.
I've talked about it forever. But we know what this is. Yeah,

(01:34:56):
down to the video. And but how could I be
mad at him? If you want to make fun, money
and be relevant, you have to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
You don't have to do this, And that's what we
got to get away. You know you do not you don't.
There's a lot of artists that are not doing that
what you just said.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Are they also dating an A list actress and like
really part of the elite Hollywood crowd?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Now, yeah, but I mean even if even with that,
you don't have to chase mg First of all, MGK
is solidified. He's been in the game. How many years?

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Two thousand and eleven, almost fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
It's a lot of shit MGK does not fifteen years ago, yeah, fourteen.
So yeah, artists like MGK, you don't have to do that.
I think that MGK did that making fun of artists
that do that. I think that's saying he's not taking
himself serious right now. This is a attempt at just

(01:35:52):
you know, mocking.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
But I also think he likes the song and he's
having fun, and maybe there's a world where he was
just having fun and the label or his management heard
it and was like, I know this was a joke,
but this is going to be a smash for kids
on TikTok, So just either lean into it or just
delete it from your hard right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Yeah, I can see that happen. I can see that
conversation happening.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Because there's been plenty of records that we've heard from
artists like I made that as like a joke. Like
Nikki said, super Bass wasn't even supposed to make the album.
She was like, I just like made it. It sounded
cool to me. I was never gonna put it out. Yeah,
that was supposed to be like maybe a deluxe B side,
and it's like one of the biggest songs of her career.
That happens often, So, I mean, we've known MGK two

(01:36:34):
have integrity with his music and very hands on with
what goes out. So maybe there's a case where yeah,
he really did like it, but we know what it
looks like after that car wash clip. Yeah, but I'm
not mad at the song.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
No, I'm not mad at it. It's not for me,
but I'm not mad at it. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
I don't know if I'm gonna listen to it per se,
but I don't know. So you're not gonna listen to
League of my Own by Jell I want to drum.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
I'll listen to it. I'll check it out and see
what he did, but I'm not expecting it to be
like a phenomenal project or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
The only mistake I'll say that def Jam did, which
maybe they didn't do, was putting Wayne on that remix
to keep that song going. A good remix feature would
have kept that record.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
That was Wayne's fucking dna O and the originally.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
I know that's why you didn't need Wayne on it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Yeahucking wayte you need to know. They needed Wayne on
it to kind of stamp, but they was going after
the Hot Boys ship that whole sound.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Put young Boy, put Young Boy on that ship and
called it day.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Yeah. Nah, Well I told you that she wasn't gonna last.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Sense, I owe you an apology? Do you owe Cardi
an apology for what?

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
What did I know? Why y'all keep putting me? What
what did I say about Cardi? Now? What did I say? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Well, not an apology? Are you tripling down? Because now,
after everything that we've been discussing over the past few
weeks between her and Stefan Diggs, over the weekend, they
did make it official. And everyone knows what making official means.
It means posting on Instagram together. They did a whole carousel,
which at that point, according to social media rules, y'all

(01:38:13):
are not like just talking having fun. You guys are
basically married. No, because you posted a photo on Instagram.
Those are the rules. I don't make them. I'm just saying,
what the ig.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
You're skipping ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
Though you're skipping what might have prompted that post?

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
You were suggesting when Carti went on Twitter spaces and
applied to offset asking for alimony more or less spousal support,
where she then said, I hope you die, not only die,
but die slow, and.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
I want you to think of me when you die.

Speaker 5 (01:38:45):
First of all, everybody was sending me the screenshots and
me being in that live niggas like yo de maris,
because you know it says like listening it was like
ten am. I had him brush my teeth, washed my ass.
I was getting up in the kitchen to go get
something eat and I clicked that immediately and CARTI was
screaming my ear, I said, and listened to the whole thing. Dedication,
dedication to the mess.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
I only saw the clip that everyone's talking about, which
is wild, and I feel like there's a lot of
men that wish they could scream that when that happens
to them, but you know we'd be put on a list.
But either way, you think that was a direct response
to everything that Offset had put in paperwork.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
I think I think that that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
I think when Stefan posted CARDI I think it was
a show of allegiance and just a show of love
and support.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
I just you know, wait, he had an allegiance, thought
like he was neutral at the time, is what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
I think it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:41):
I think he posted her and show of support after
it was the day after all of that happened.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
Oh so he posted her first, he posted her, don't
I don't follow him, So yes, he posted her first Okay, what.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Do I old Cardy an apology for? No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Oh, I'm wondering if you're tribbling down based off your
theory that because I actually never thought it would get
to this.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
You didn't think it would.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
I thought she was having fun and dating. I didn't
think it would get to the almost kissing ig photo
because to me, that's a relationship by social media rules.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Y'all don't why y'all don't listen to me. They showed
up at a fucking nick playoff game court side. I
told y'all that was a statement. You niggas argue me. No,
they're just having fun and they're just.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Definitely a statement again, well that I mean obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Yeah, So why you can't post a picture?

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Anytime you fucking somebody you post, can we pull up
the photo them with laying on the boat almost kissing.
This is a photo you post every time you're kind
of fucking someone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
No, this is the post. This is the photo you
post when you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
I know married men that don't post.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
When the whole timeline is talking about you handing the
girl a bag of Tussie and you gotta tell your
famous girlfriend listen. We gotta scrub that from the top
of the time, like we need. We need a new
carousel out there in the streets. Show some of the
ass the thigh and looked like we're about to kiss.
Let's get let's get off of the ass shaking party boat.
Let's get the party boat out of here. You ain't
seen the party boat since this dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
Well, this is the party boat that they.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Were, but this is a different side of the party boat.
This is the love boat. That's the bow. This is
the love boat. This is the love boat right here.
This is yo. We we love each other. Show show Stephanson,
the hr eighty thousand roses love got away from the party,
get the party scene out of here. Showed show the
people that I love you. That's what this is and

(01:41:32):
I mean cool. Have listen, CARDI have fucking fun. Have fun.
That's what she's supposed to do, have a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Was that offset tweet really fake? Of? He said, I
like the rollout and then spelled it wrong and then
had to do the edit version.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
I have no I wasn't able to find any supporting
suits for that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
I think it was real. It just might have been old. Okay,
I don't know he or he scrept it. I couldn't
get confirmation.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Well, he gets hacked all the time. We know that
to get off sets, passwords, password, off set is hacked
by anytime something's actually happening, he just gets hacked.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
To give the people some backstory of what exactly was
going on with the screaming of the spaces if you
did not see it, Offset had gave a statement to
the Breakfast Club saying that he the reason he was
trying to take Cardi for support, posts divorce support or
whatever alimony was because she never sees the kids, but

(01:42:25):
she's trying to take him for everything and all types
of shit even though she never has the kids. And
that prompted Cardi to lose her absolute fucking mind and say, nigga,
you haven't seen your kids in weeks. I'm always with
your kids. And if I'm not with your kids, I'm working.
I pay over fifty thousand dollars in school, security, daycare,
all of this shit for the kids monthly, and you're

(01:42:45):
not helping me. You don't help me pay for the
Atlanta house like you don't help me with anything, but
you're trying to put this out as if like I
don't take care of my fucking kids and now I'm
trying to take everything from you. And I think that
really prompted her to lose her absolute fucking mind, and
that that is what prompted that. So she says she's
been working Corey. I think she's I think the album

(01:43:06):
might actually be coming this year.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
So yeah, well she put a snippet out as well.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
As she does put that out.

Speaker 5 (01:43:12):
Oh so she put out Originally she put out herself
kind of singing the lyrics to that song. Something leaked
on TikTok where it had a beat to it and
it sounded like a leaked older version of the song.
And then they combined her kind of singing those lyrics
combined with the yeah, like they put I.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Saw the final version and thought it was the record.

Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
She was on live just playing music, no no yo,
the internet.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
She just said, she just kind of said the lyrics,
and they put somebody got the leaked track and put
it together.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
I liked the lyrics. I'm glad that's not the beat
because I've heard that beat from Cardi before. It was
very similar to I forgot what.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
Up a little bit? That little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Oh that makes me happy because I did. I thought
the lyrics were great for a Cardi record, but the
beat I was like, I've heard this a bunch of
times her. I'm glad that's not the beat.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
That what.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
I'm fine, niggas, I'm trying to find niggas. I've been
cuffed up too long. Let me remind niggas. Yeah, me too, Cardi.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
I thought you weren't cover her fucking summer. Let's go,
so you admit you've better in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
Let me remind niggas you bugging up.

Speaker 5 (01:44:17):
Sorry, I'm sorry. I got a little lot of character.
I'm so sorry. Yes, Cartie don't really forward.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
To the new project.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
So you bet in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
Yeah, Stepan Dick, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Are you gonna find your stuff on this weekend?

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
Mhmm? Are you gonna found them?

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
You hosting? I saw the flyer and everything?

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
Who said, I JK, Yeah, I'm yeah, who knows, you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Everything's up in the air.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
What do you think her hosting swag is gonna be?

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Yeah, you think she'll grab the mic?

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Oh, she definitely get on the mic. For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
If you have above a three point oh gpa, make
some noise.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
Themara's gonna be focused on the girl. She gonna want.
She gonna know what pretty girl.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
So you already know I'm doing dapping up a dapping
up to tens. But it's not gonna be adapt. It's
gonna be a hug of all women, all the tins
and the party.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
But women or men.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Women.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
You think I'm walking up the men asking for a hug, Well,
fire me.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
If I ever do that. I'm not saying asking, But
you know, you might walk up to a guy and
just to say hello, and they would hug you. If
you walked up and said hello, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
Sure they would. Yeah, I'm okay, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Sure any drunk guy to day party would do that,
but ability any sober woman.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
But no, I'm trying to I'm trying to find my Steffan.
I'm trying to be on the boat with the bitches.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Listen, man, I'm gonna just say this right. Let me
just get my ship happy for Cardy, she's happy. I'm happy,
Big Bronx. Shit. I support CARDI. I love Cardy. I
know that. All I'm saying when this stepfon Diggs, niggas
start acting like the Stephon Diggs that we know. We
gotta have another conversation because you think cardis in offset

(01:45:58):
when she gets this thig' Steph fond out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Man, here's the thing, because that's been your statement the
entire time. And Damaris and I counter to that was, well,
she's having fun too. Proof was on the boat. She
was dancing with the girls too. We talked about the
couple or people that are talking that like the Hose.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
The honeymoon phases lit we know, No.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
No, I'm not speaking about them. I want to get
into my experience too. I have liked the fun girl
until like that fun phase and then like, why are
you acting that? Fund still like I like that you
liked the Hose, but you liking them wait too, like
like that was three months ago. We was liking the
Hose three months ago. I could see that scenario happening.
She already knows who he is, and like in the past,

(01:46:40):
I've known who that girl is, but then the behavior
never switched.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
That's not how see, that's not how it's gonna happen.
Here's how I think it's gonna happen. And I'm not
putting this on. I would love to see Cardi and
steph On, you know, whatever they have for themselves, whatever
plans they have, I hope all of that happens for them.
How I see it playing out is step On is
gonna do with Stepan does. He's gonna find somebody that
he really likes, and he's gonna keep it away from Cardi.

(01:47:08):
He's gonna try to be sneaky with it, and she
gonna be like, nigga, why are you being sneaky? You
know you could we could be honest, we could do
all that you could let me know. And that's how
that's gonna it's I don't think it's gonna be ugly.
I just think that they're gonna be like, yo, listen,
we had fun, it was cool, you know whatever, whatever,
We're still friends. I think it's gonna be like that.
I think that's how they I don't think it's gonna
be like a bad split. I just think that Stephan

(01:47:28):
aren't gonna find something that was another flavor of the
month that he ain't telling Carty about, and she gonna
be like, all right, nigga, Well, if you're gonna be
doing that, just go ahead and do what you're doing,
like I'm bringing the holes to you saying you could
do it here in front of me, and then you
sneaking off going to motherfucking to the mall Deeves with
a bitch like I'm CARDI b At the end of
the day, we can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
And then that says a man like when you try
to like make logical sense in the argument, like you
knew who I was, You was cool with that, Yeah,
I didn't know when did it happen that that wasn't okay?

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
Yeah, when you start liking somebody away from the fun,
you can't have fun with somebody, like you can't take
the girl from the party, and then like have a
private like, nah, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Where do we think Carty ends up in the Robert
Craft Michael Rubin circle.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Well, she was already at the Super Bowl on stage
at it wasn't the you know, obviously the game, but
she was a few years ago. She was at the
Super Bowl's festivities on stage with Robert Kraft, So she
has a somewhat I guess a little relationship. They already
before Stepan. She was she was a part of the
Patriots family before Stepan Diggs.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
That's gonna be tough. Damn Cardy is gonna be knocking
off the checklists, already pissing offset off.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
She's gonna be well, he gonna be pissed off. Of course,
that's been a baby father shit. You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
But the season has started, so it's already June, August,
September is coming. She will be in that box with
Robert Craft and Meek Mill. Who gets more attention at
the game. Cardi b ll Taylors with Taylor Swift. Taylor
Cardi be with to me and say, Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Swift, I don't know, man, Cardi started working in that booth,
that skybox, I.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
Think, cause it'll be different.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Taylor's been at all the NFL games, so now Cardi
would be a new it's a new face.

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
It's a new face.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
We don't see.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Taylor Swift had five year old girls watching like Football
with their dads just to see a glimpse of her
in the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
No, I know, Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift. But I'm
just saying Cardi gonna look good in the skybox. Man,
pray for all. Set is all like I said.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
He's gonna do the vibe with the pants suit, like
she's gonna show up real.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
Professional, She's gonna look she's gonna look real good in nfell.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
You gonna pis Nikki off when Meek is at every
Patriot game too.

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
We'll come see me this weekend because I'm looking for
my Stepan Diggs.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
I'm just saying, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
You don't need a stepan.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
I need me a stepfand no, I need to have fun.
I have been and I am a serial fucking monogamous
that I'm over it. I learned guys by the way,
you know, I won't talk about this on our next step.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Like you about to become a whole, that's what you
she said. I'm once they say I am a serial
monogamous and I am sick of it. That means the
wrong nigga about to hit you. See Insecure with Easter,
she started sucking the weed dealer. She said, Dann, you
gave him baby d be careful as all.

Speaker 5 (01:50:15):
I'm saying, they'll talk about it in the next episode
because it is a more serious conversation that I do
want to have.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
I can't realism right, but just don't don't let the
wrong nigga hit that's all I'm saying. Don't let the
You know what I mean, like, don't do that anybody that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:27):
I've already slept with, So obviously the wrong niggas have already.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
Hit no, no, see, don't do that. Don't do that.
You know what I mean. I'm talking about when don't
You don't want to look back on this time and
be like, Yo, why y'all didn't because that's you love
to do that. Why y'all didn't tell me I was
bugging out. I'm telling you, don't bug out. I'm telling
you before you bug out, do not bug out. Yeah,
there's a way to hold correctly. That's all I'm not We'll.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
Talk about it in the next episode. I'm not houlling on.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Well, this was fun. We have a long week of
recording because we have a lot of ship to do
this weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:50:56):
Yes, if you want to see me this weekend, buy tickets,
burgers and bottles. They're in my bio because I am
hosting and I'm be looking good. It's ship and I'm
be wearing my baby d merch that might or might
not be coming out song.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Are they giving you a microphone?

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Well, I'm really tight that we won't be there. Can
I stream it?

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
You're gonna be working.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
I like, while we're working, I'll just have my phone
like this.

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
You during an interview, So so Peach told me it's
so funny. Peach was like, you should have you should
have got a streaming backpack and you should be streaming
everywhere you go. And I'm like, I would have done
that if I would have thought about it in advance,
because streaming backpacks are what Peached we were looking at.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
I'm like two thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
Yeah they're expensive. Yeah, yeah, those stose are a lot.
But I mean, I don't know, tell the burgers and bottles, guys,
but it split it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Maybe you guys excited for.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
The crazy rider streaming fact you're streaming, but like every
event you do too, so you got like twenty of them.
Well this was fun. Let's get out of here because
we have some ship to do.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Yes, we do the week ahead. We'll talk to y'all soon.
Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger peace.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
Willian no

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