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Speaker 2 (00:35):
The volume.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Willian just a rolling star.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, how you how long you guys been doing it
so far? Find your own four and a half?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yeah, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's been this long that you guys broke up?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Wow, damn it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
And I know you don't know much about this podcast,
so I'll give you just a quick brief of what
this show is dedicated to the shape of the Earth.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Are you Lloyd Jamar?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
This entire pod is not about current events, not about music.
We're strictly here to figure out what the shape.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Of the couniversal episode.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I came in here. They didn't get on the same
path as me. That was the greatest podcast episode I've
ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Hold On, but before before.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Hold on, hold on before, I watched the three times
I subscribed to Professor Daves.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I watched his YouTube this day. He's not lying, He's
dead serious.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
And I came in here, like you seen what's up
with you and Jamal and the fucking flat arm? What's
going on with the flat just don't make no sense?
Can ye give us about what to shape for the earthish?
And this is supposed to be peace to the gods
in the you know, whats talk? Where their breath go away?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Does it affect you? The funny, the funniest part about
all this is this originally was a Zoom episode.
Speaker 7 (02:22):
We was gonna have god And I came in here.
I'm like, I think Godfrey lives in Mahattan. Why are
we zooming? And it was like you and I said, yeah,
man right, I'm like where you at?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
And now he's here in the studio. So thank you
for coming back, No doubt appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know you guys.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Sort of because I was like, aren't you don't don't
fuck I do appreciate that you blindly accept podcast invitations
because when we got on Zoom, you were.
Speaker 8 (02:52):
Like, ain't you the guys yeah coming over there that
we appreciate that because I watched and listen regardless of
what happens in the US biz.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
You know, everyone's doing that thing. Things happen is what
it is. Man, I mean looking with the flat earth
for ship. I ain't even spoken to him and man
over over the shape of the earth. That's what's hilarious.
You haven't spoke, no, because I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I didn't do anything. But well here's the thing. Okay,
he was like talking about the shape of the earth,
and I go all right, hey, why don't you have
when we bring it? Because we're going to bring Neil
de Grass Tyson on there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Because I said that he was going to debate him
because Chuck.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Chuck Nice, my man, Chuck Nice is his co host
on his show Star Talk. I've done Star Talk with him.
I did also I did Neil de Grass AND's Neila
Grass Tyson's show on on nat Geo. We shot at
the Planetarium or eight, you know, so I know that.
I said, yeah, let's call Neiolo Grass because we were
let's put a black man on there to talk to
another black man. So and Neila Grass was too busy.
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So he's like, well this guy did. Dave the science
communicator said hey, man, I'd like to debate this dude.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, you're leaving out of park. After you guys had
that conversation. Professor Dave did his reaction video to a
glass of kognak in his hand, which I grab some
as well. To watch that reaction, I'm just like, oh no,
I'm on board Professor Davis in the mix.
Speaker 9 (04:19):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So I was like, this is great. It's science, man,
it's a debate. Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And I go, hey, I got a guy. Because of
course I didn't surprise him some dada. We said hey,
would you like to He goes, yeah, I'll come through.
I said, well cool, and so he's on there and
before I remember, before he even got on the screen. Yo,
fuck that motherfucker. I was in a shocked. I was like,
oh shit. So I just kept quiet and I'm not
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trying to embarrass anybody. You want to battle and he said,
I'll even go against Neil Degrass Tyson. He's not a
real astro physicist, he's an actor. I was like huh dude,
he was. If you guys, I'm a real nerd. So
Carl Sagan was the original Cosmos. Carl said, you know,
Carl Sagan is well, Carl Sagan was the well Neiolagrass
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Tyson host Cosmos. But the original host of Cosmos was
Carl Sagan, this white dude, dark hair, and I love Carl.
I grew up on Carl Sagan watching Cosmos because I
was into astronomy and shit like that. And so he
was Neiodagrass Tyson's mentor. And you know Neoda Grass is
from the Bronx, Yes, and he was when he was
studying Excite. You know Neilo Grass. It was an all
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state wrestler. It was a free and he's now. And
when I got into science, I met, you know, Carl Sagan.
He gave me like a blessing bo boom. So his
that's how his life has been. He's a real scientist.
And so he goes, yeah, I'll debate anybody. And I said, cool, right,
this will be awesome. And and what's funny he says, Oh,
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I was just doing it for clicks. I go, who
isn't doing shit for clicks? That's how you live title
an episode. I need clicks, that's how you get money.
And so he got on there and when he said
what he said before the guy got on, I go,
oh boy. So I just sat there and Dave stood
stood his ground, you.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Know, and he went at him.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
And and Dave is also a very how do I
put it, arrogant, Yes, arrogant with stipulations because what he's
saying is factual, but it can piss somebody off just the.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Way he sky.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, well, if you understand what a ball is, yeah,
it's gravity, dumb.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
He's going to piss somebody, somebody from new He's gonna
piss off. The way he speaks, Yeah, the way he's talking.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, of course. But when you're right, you're right. That's
my thing. And I'm like, you handle it. I just
want to watch. I'm not trying to go back and forth,
you know, because I know science, but I'm not that
deep in it like that you don't. But you really
want to battle this flat earth shit because for me,
I understand why flat earthers have come into play. I
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understand because we're lied to so much. Just in general.
Government lies to what lies was about food, They lie
was about everything so I understand when people go conspiracy theories.
That's where conspiracy theories come from. Is there the presence
of God? Is there such thing as a Jesus? You
get it because motherfuckers lie a lot. So I understand
the flat earth thing. And what's funny is there's some
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things about flat earth that makes sense. You go, you
know what, that kind of makes sense. I like people that,
even if they're wrong, they have some shit that you go, well,
wait a minute, and that makes for good, you know,
a good conversation, and so go ahead.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I'm a huge conspiracy theorist. And they accused me of
being a flat earther for a long time. And granted,
I went and went through the same YouTube rabbit holes
that I'm sure Lord mar did as well. I was like, no,
that's probably bullshit, but I still believe in a lot
other conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There was some stuff that made sense, you know, perspective wise. Okay,
if if this is this, why don't we see the
curvature that Then I brought my buddy on, my buddy,
Calvin stig Stiggy. He's a pilot, Jamaican was Jamaican is
all hell, and he studied geospace engineering and he was.
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He protected Obama. He's an air forceman, like he did
the Tom Cruise ship that you get the tricks and all.
So he goes, he goes.
Speaker 10 (08:29):
He said, what blood clod, the Earth is round?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I said, Jamaican is saying that ship. You gotta believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Jamaic sit.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It wasn't. I was when they go bumba cloud.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Gotta believe him.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
He said, Dude, he said bumba cloud.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
VI said the same, said he didn't kill that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I was order the ear.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I showed up. I said. He said, it's real. It's real.
So there is curvature. It is what it is. It's
like because I don't know, because I don't fly, I
don't you know, So what if what if those pictures
that we have seen of the Earth are fake? What
if they are? Because we don't we're not satellite we
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have I haven't. I'm not superman R I can fly
and go, ah, it is round. If they're lying to
us because we're here on the planet, we don't know
what the fuck they're doing up there. They could be
I'm saying, they could be lying. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
With the moon.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Landing, I you know, the moon landing, I'm doubting that ship,
you know, especially after those space cunts went up there.
I'm sorry, the cosmic cunts, called.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
By the proper names, the cosmic cunts.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
The cosmic cunts went up. Did they go up? There
was some air and they're, first of all, where's your helmet?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
At minimum?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Like, first of all, where's your pressure suit? They didn't
even have at least motorcycle helmet.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I saw this bad.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'm just saying. I don't mean to insult them, but
I was just like, and you and then you have
fucking Katy Perry describing what the fuck happened and why
would you pick her? It's like it was just love,
love and connection and just love and we were just
that and connect. What the fuck are you talking about?
We're talking science, like, hey, I felt the gravitational pull.
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And then Bezos' wife with that fucking you would think
that she had all that face ship done that the
gravity would have her whole ship would have been like,
oh my god, yeah, the girl fucked my whole operational
her ship would have been like she would have looked
like a fucking yeah, it was fair. There was no
effect on that. So I was like, we're and they
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were like this, we're we're in fast. If you're in space,
if you're on a high speed fucking train, you're like this,
oh ship right. If you're oh fucking you know, I
do get off, you're like, oh ship, god damn. But
you're in space and you're just going look at my daisy. Yeah,
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oh my god, a deavit min canucksha. And then they
came out like yeah, if you come from space, you're
like fuck yeah. That was. And then Bassos tried to
open a door. They already opened it over there. It
was like fucking too. Was like yeah we saw it.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
No asks to make sure his wife is okay, yes,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
What, and then it's like you can't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We our bodies can't handle those kind of forces, you know.
And you're in an airplane thirty five thousand feet and
your pressure and.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Then come on, here's pilots that go higher than that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Fuck you talk. These pilots are up there with helmets
on it, and you yeah, and you're higher than they are.
But you're like, yeah, bath final Frontier. Yeah, the eves
like spuck, we have to go on turbo. He's like this, Captain,
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I don't think we can make that He's like TV,
this makes no space look like real space. Like, I
don't think we can make them. I think that force
will suck as it spunk. We have to get there
to spunk, right, And.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
These motherfuckers like, yeah, yeah, we were there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's love, it's connect shine like it was brunt time
for feminism in that high altitude. The fuck is wrong
with you? Any gender thing? Connect shot and what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
What not that she found about love of there, it
was the fact that she decided two days later that
she needed to learn how to walk again.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Did you see that concert she was doing? That shit
was trash. Her concert was gibbage straight that she was
so bad she was she was I said, maybe she
did go because she delivery rickets. They left. Gravitational Force
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has done fucked Tonisa. When she was in that dressed
as a fucking that was at least she should have
been dressed in that to go to space. But they
were all these sexy suits. And then there's Gail King, right,
and there's Oprah's body double, and then there I called
her Oprah stunt double because if Oprah is like in
a car scene and she rolls out, it's Gail.
Speaker 11 (13:45):
The car.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And there's two scientists who were real scientists. The girl
that's the Vietnamese girl who was actually you know, she
was like sexually assaulted when she was a scienceman. Yeah,
she's gone through a lot. She's actually a real astrophysics
says or whatever. And the black girl. It's the in
the middle. There's a Vietnamese or the Vietnamese shit in
the front that's the lowest, and the black girl. They're
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too real astral site. So I think they brought them
in to just keep the hoax going. But it was
some bull They went straight to Katie Perry first, and
I said, oh, this is bullshit. They fucked up. Yeah. Yeah,
She's like it was just love and cannot shut I'm not,
We're just that.
Speaker 12 (14:23):
She was all up.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Gail like kind of had a little sassy attitude, like when.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
She she was like this, She's like, have you been
to space? Then you tell me? I'm sorry, your friend
is Jeff Bezos. Space costs a million dollars of tea.
I just did. I was just on kayak to get
my ticket to go to North Carolina you're talking about.
I was using my flyer miles and negotiate it. Just
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try to go to our flight and you're talking about
have you been to slate? That's what I knew. It
was bullshit. I'm sorry, have you been to state? So
when you get to space, let me know. Have you
been to space?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
No, we have you're the only ones that have obviously
been there.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Because that's what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Flint doesn't have clean water and you went to space.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
That Flint didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I went to Flint.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm talking about this space voye that Gail King the interview.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
People don't believe it. If you've been to space. If
I have a friend named Jeff, a friend of Jeff Basis,
I'll go right and he'll pay for my dam But
you didn't go to music. Have you been in space?
You obviously haven't either, because you're not explaining anything to us.
You could have been, like, well, the gravitational forces. It
was really amazing. We saw then we saw cosmic dust
and just some space talk like you could have been
at least like we I think we saw like Hayley's.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Comic come by, and we saw and there's asteroid.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
We were able to see, you know, the new craters,
and I mean, I know some science like tell us
something you were like this, have you been to space? Well,
if you don't know space, shut your ass. And you
know how they use the word space now just in jail.
I just love this space that we're in. Yeah, you
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know that's cap that was. We were in a space
in space. It was sort of a safe space in space,
which was sort of space like a SATs craft. So
everything's about.
Speaker 9 (16:22):
Spacey that I'm spacey from the space and in this
space I was able to really be in a safe
place for space. And this is a good working space
for me. And you know, and people who don't know
about this space know nothing about space.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So where are you on the side of still want
to take Lord Jamara?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Antarctica?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Do you remember when they did the experiment recently?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
What thirty five thousand dollars apiece for these flat earthers
to go to because they say that Arctica. There's an
end in Antarctica or some other like big fucking land. Okay,
there's a wall, yes, So this dude's on the other side.
I'm right. I'm pretty take care.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Achild Island right there.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Go to Google maps.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Is there a Rothschild Island in Antarctica?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
No, it's a fact they got snow Castle. Listen, I'm
saying that the Earth is round. I'm also saying that
the roth Child's own an island to target like that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Along with that could be the the Rothschild, the Rock
of fell. Yeah, I believe all that now. But as
far as like he goes, Okay, I'm gonna take you
guys to Antarctica, fly you all out. This guy scientist
paid thirty five thousand a piece. Yeah, I got the money.
And then we're gonna sit there and watch the sun.
If the sun stays in the air, stays out for
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twenty four hours at the Earth's round, they were like, okay,
bet they camped out. That fucking sun stayed there. They
were like, that's c gr that's fucking are they all right?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So they took like flat earther influencers, like they took
the Jenner of flat Earth down there, right, And then
when they got there, there was like, yo, no, that
twenty four hours don't exist, Like yeah, yeah, it's it's real.
Then they exiled them like some scientology shit, like they
kicked them out of the flat earther community because they
were like, guys, I was there.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I promise you that was not They were and they're like,
it's round. Earth is round, It's it's right, and we
were Sinnati kicked out of the return. It's a freak
kicked out.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You're out here, you think it's fucking wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Do you think it's a spear?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You're right of your asshole.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
And the internet is just the worst place because when
I was here they make their money though I wasn't even.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Looking at the flat air ship. When I started on
that rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
They were telling me like, yo, there's no flights from
Argentina to Australia, and I was like, damn, why is
that the case? Then I went on price line. I'm like, no,
you could fly. Put misinformation as a fact and if
you don't double check, he just doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Go to Trinidad. I just found that out yesterday. They don't.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
So it's triangle.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
You look at there, jet you can get there.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
They sow the lines. Jet Blue has more lies.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Now we're going to at one flat Earth or rabbit hole.
I went down. They showed footage of everyone taking off
from Australia and they said they were forcing everyone to
put the windows down, so you couldn't see.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Now, I gotta give credit to flat Earth. There's that
keep going, they'll go like this, but no, And how
come the wing was tilted? Yeahs that that's the flat
earth the grab. And then we were talking about there
was a thing about buoyancy. You saw that, of course. Okay,
how come when you dip up the tennis water and
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a ball of a ball in water like a tennis ball,
and you spin it, the water comes off.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
How come.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It does it? The water doesn't fly off the earth?
Speaker 12 (19:55):
He goes, hey, dummy, Because the Earth is a gigantic
fucking mass, a humongous mass, and gravity exists, and there's
this you know, there's a force that keeps us down.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You know, when you throw a ball up, it goes
fucking down. It's like, well you know where down? It's like,
do you know where down is? And in buoyancy in
the equation, if you can pop it up the equation
for buoyancy, there's a G for gravity on the other
side of the the equal side. G is in the
is in the equation for buoyancy. It's in the equation.
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Why do things float? There's gravity in the equation.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I'm stupid, so it's not like I'm sitting here like
I know everything, but this ship makes more sense to
me than someone just screaming, hey, a ball can't what's
their famous line, can't hold water or whatever the fuck
they say it's.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I'm like, no.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
When they said it, I was like, that's a great point.
When I was underly disproven right here, it's a great boy,
it's not. I have a lot of love and respect
for it, Lord Jamar. I don't want.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I don't want to make it seem like I was
on his side in the beginning, and I thought in
the like, yo, listen, you make it up some great points.
And then Professor Davis just was like, dog, all right,
let me break this down for you.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And and and Neil de grass Tyson. You know, have
you heard when him and Terrence Howard wrote some stuff,
some scientific theories, and Terrence is like, I believe that
that the planet there's no such thing as zero, because
if you see, I've done a lot of calculation. You know,
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he sounds like skin. That's he sounds. I love Terrence Howry.
He sounds light skin. Though I sound like a dark skin.
He sounds light skin. See nobody dark skin stuffs like
that he hits. Let's here's the thing, though, you have
to understand the philosophy and astronomical calculation.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I've done this for a long time.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
He's seth like kid.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's what I love.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But he ain't no joke. He don't play that bullshit
though I will smack ship on real deal. He ain't
no fucking He ain't no bump. That's what they whether
he was playing a pimp a rapper what. He wears
the same thing and looks exactly the same in every role.
And I love him to be that guy. That Batman
thing where he meets Batman, like he goes, I was
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out Batman, he goes, it's Batman. Okay, that's what I
said Batman. That ship is his direct a lah.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
But but when you think buns with conviction like he does.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right, Because Neil the Grass actually looked at it the
paper he wrote and said, I looked at it, but
I just didn't have time to, you know. But there's
some things that he said that didn't They weren't right,
But I give him credit for his effort.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You know, there's this thing they call what's the theory?
They call where you you think you know enough.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You think you know something, but you don't have enough
information to really know, and you don't know what you're
talking about. There's a there's a theory.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Was it was it called.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Now it's not cognitive dissonance. It's ship.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
It's it's a theory where you unite narcissism.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You don't know right where where you have you think
you have a certain amount of information to make you
think you know everything, but you don't have enough.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Something like that, District Attorney.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Puffy's lawyers, Is it okay?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Read that? Can you read that? The phrase you don't
know what you don't know highlights the limitations of human
knowledge and the potential for gaps and understanding. It emphasizes
that there are often things we are unaware we don't know,
which can lead to misunderstandings or flawed assumptions.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Right, So it's it's that. And so Neil de Grass said,
that's what he has. He has that you'll get. That's
what he has. But I love his But I we're scientists.
We do We've done experiments over and over and over.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
We this is what we do.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I'm not knocking him. But what you're talking about
is wrong because I'm a fucking scientist, because I know
about acting like Sarren's an amazing actors. That's like me
telling you about acting. You don't know it like I do.
And so so that was really interesting that you know.
(24:32):
And and it's and and my thing is science is
there to be debated. What's wrong with that? Is nothing wrong?
Even though they've they've since the days of Einstein and
and and and and Boor and all these scientists that
have you know, they have all these different types of
they have they have their own theories, they have their
own calculations and equations. Even back then, these are I mean,
(24:53):
madam cured. They all did science experiments over for tons
of them. So these motherfuckers know what they're talking about,
and it's okay to debate them. Just ready to get right,
just be ready to be worth their actual job? Like right,
do you just get ready?
Speaker 4 (25:07):
You know, it's like getting in a scene with Denzel
and be like, I know how to act?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Are you sure about that?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Are you sure? So? What are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We're gonna work. You're gonna keep your mouth shut? Is
that what you're telling me? You think you know?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You know?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And now I'm sitting here like I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Said what do I need to do to be coming actor?
He said, learn, shut up, turn off your phone, practice train?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
It was? Who was a medico society who directed that?
Which brothers was Huddland? I think it was the Yeah,
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Was it Huddland Brothers?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh, no, it was was it Bill Duke? No?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Society is the the brothers.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
You know, you think you know you don't fucked up?
You know that one right with Bill?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Bill was the one his brothers, the Hughes Brothers.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Bill Duke was the one who said, you know you didn't.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
He was in the Actually, so Alan, he was doing
a podcast I think it was like with Neil Brennan maybe,
and was talking about directing Denzel for the first time,
and anytime he had any type of note or real direction,
Denzel would just show thirty two thirty two. He'd do
it for the whole week. And then Alan he was
realized he was saying the amount of movies he's done
(26:20):
and saying, shut up, shut the fuck up, thirty two
thirty two, don't tell me what the fuck I'm doing
right now? That is oh yeah, larious thirty two dinner
for a whole week. He was called thirty two, thirty two,
(26:45):
thirty two crazy. You know what, that's what I like?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Shot the fuck up?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, let me do what I got.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You just saw me in a Gang of movies.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Got an oscar quick right, let me do.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
What I do.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
What I'm doing?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Everybody, he was like, can you like?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
No? Yeah, no, I can't do you see me directing you? Ah?
You know it's in that thirty It happened to me.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I was on a sentence.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And when it comes to comedy, like, I just feel
like those people can't tell difference for you between let's
say stand.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Up and then in a situational comedy. Yeah, it's I can.
I'm good at both, you know, not everybody. A lot
of comedians can transfer into acting. That's one thing. A
lot of comedians can go from stand up to like
sketch comedy and stuff like that because we have that
timing thing. We do character work on stage, so we
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can adjust easier. I'm not saying we're all gonna be
the greatest at it, but we can. That's why they
pick a lot of comics on a lot of sketch stuff,
because we kind of know because a lot of sketches
come from comics that they've watched. Oh they'll steal a
joke and just extend it into a sketch. You feel meh.
So a lot of times, a lot of writers from
the snls and whatever, we'll go to comedy clubs to
(28:03):
get premises. Oh yeah, and you'll go, wait a minute,
it looks like my shit, you know what I mean.
So that's why we're real. We can we can think
in sketch too, because a lot of comics are writers.
You got Michael Cha, you got Colin Jos. They're all comics.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
There's a lot of my comic friends, right, a lot
of sketches, they're all comedians.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So even though John Lenny was the head writer sketch, yeah,
he's a stand up.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So a lot of us are stand up. Colin Quinn
was a stand up, Dennis Miller a stand up stams.
So we can get into acting. A lot of comics
can become dramatic actors too, because we're angry. First of all,
we're fucking angry. Comedy comes from anger, pain and shit
like that. You look at some great actors, Robin Williams,
you look at Michael Keaton was a stand up Really
(28:50):
what nat Yeah, Michael's stand up comic. Michael Keaton, Who's
one of the best greatest actors? Michael Keaton's stand up.
Kevin Pollack is stand up? Who else was? Richard Pryor
was a good actor. Richard actor's asshole. You got Eddie Murphy,
you got We can keep going. There's a lot of
stand ups that can become actors. Rosie o'donald was a
(29:11):
stand up comic. Rose Ambar stand up comed We could
just it's easy to it's easier. It's it's harder for
an actor to do comedy, yeah, for sure, but drama
it's easier for us to get into that ship.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
You seen Robert de Niro try to be a comedic actor.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And it's funny because Greg he's doing Mafia movies. I like,
listen but he But you remember the actors trying to
be a comedian. There was a show called The Actors
Studio with James Lifton.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Chapelle did it, yeah, and he asked de Niro, what's
the hardest thing for you as an actor? He goes comedy.
It's it's so difficult, Denzel said it comedy comedy. Kim
Bassenger said, comedy it's harder than drama, and it doesn't
get rewarded the way it should be. I think a
funny movie should be rewarded for because that's hard because
(30:04):
you already go into When you're going to go see
a funny, funny movie, you already got attitude. This should
better be funny, right right, ship you know you don't
go into the drama going I better cry like a
bit because the notebook had me snotting bubbles baby like
a bitch.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I better cry like a bitch.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I want to I want to lose breath in this, myfucker.
You never do that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
You just go drama.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
As a drama, you don't always go to funny. Oh
wouldn't even funny. It's way harder because there's an expectation.
You know, a drama you can have laughter, you can
hear if you cry, you can hear. Comedy is like,
I just come for one fucking reaction. So you grew up.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You grew up in Chicago. What's the Is it tougher
like the comedy scene, the comedy clubs in Chicago? Is
it tougher than New York? Or is New York by
far the toughest city for comedy right now.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't know the landscape of comedy as far as
coming up because I'm like, I've been doing it over
twenty five years, so I don't. But I knew in Chicago.
I mean, New York had just more stages. Okay, New
York and I've been coming up during the deaf jam
times and not it was I ain't gonna lie. The
urban shit was wild as fuck, Like who these New
(31:17):
York motherfuckers were like, boon't give a fuck. Yeah, I
didn't even go up yet.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
They went to move.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're like, I'm just letting you know what's about to
happen to your son. Don't be corny eye had son.
What the gods? All you see was pale jackets and
fucking echo jackets and.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Ship like that is like this ship like make me last,
make me last?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
N you go just like this, Yeah, I You're like, damn,
what the fuck you? Brooke? I was did all But
in Chicago we had our urban circuit cause I came
under Bernie Max Club, so it was me, Dion Cole.
I would see Dean Cole, Corey Holcom, d Ray Davis.
I see Mike Aps would come from Indian Apples List
(32:00):
said you come from Saint Louis. So we was under
Bernie mac shit. So we were doing urban like Chicago
urban scene was like, you know, we had Bishop don Juan,
you know, the guy that hangs out with Snoop. I
know before Snoop though he knew me as an amateur.
When I shot Soul playing with Snoop, Bishop came on
the set and greeted me.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
First.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Wow, he came on.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
He said, baby man, I'm proud of your baby Man.
You've been man.
Speaker 13 (32:26):
I remember when you first started Baby represents Chicago and
Snoop was like, how fuck you know?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I said, I'm from Chicago, Snoop. He goes, That's why
I fuck with you, dog, I love Chicago.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We used to do pimp shows in Chicago where the
pimps to come Bernie Mack and it would be.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
The Chicago Bulls. When we was winning, we was giving
the next hand in it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
They had.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Boy, that was the.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Greatest playoffs shit ever. But that was the time when
I was coming to New York when wearing Jordan T
shirts just being an asshole and Cats was like, no,
fuck you man, I go, Yo, I'm not playing in
the game.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
We'll say that to Jordan. Man say it to me.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I'm right here telling jokes. Bro. I did shit like that.
I dug myself in a hole. Every time I'd be
wearing Jordan shit like Jordan had like real special, like
he had a store. It was Jordan's had his restaurant
in Chicago, and there was t shirts you could only
get from that, so I would buy these exclusive. So
I had one where He's a cyborg Jordan the Greatest,
And I came off stage with that shit in Brooklyn.
(33:31):
I was at Brooklyn. I went I think I went
up after Chappelle or DC. Betty went up. There was like,
he'll fuck Chicago. I go, You're losing. It does no good.
Jordan's still going to score fifty. You you being mad
here and this comedy show is going to do You're
no good, my friend, he was still score fifty. Did
(33:52):
you know the only reason why you're in Madison Square
Garden is for Michael Jordan?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Exactly, don't forget exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
In Chicago at that time, because that list you just
named off coming.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
This is all Bernie Mack. Bernie Mack was like the
guy and my boy, Evan Lionel. Evan, my big brother,
is the one that got Bernie, had hooked Bernie up.
People don't know Evan. Evan's like this old Chicago dude,
my big brother who started like the black comedy circuit
when he was in college and just put he was
the first guy to put money in our pockets. And
he's the one that brought Bernie into the scene. He
(34:25):
got footage on Bernie doing open mics. Wow, he got
shit on Bernie doing open mics.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Wow, when Bernie wasn't rich, when Bernie was just funny
with his little glasses and shit some of them a
bit fuck you. Yeah, yeah, he got footage on all
of us when we first started. Evan Lionel, remember that name.
He's the one that stopped Bernie from a life of crime.
He's the one that went to high school with Bernie,
Chicago Vocational High School. Bernard McCullum. You know what I mean.
(34:55):
He said, Bernie, Man, come do my shows? Do that
you talented? That's the do we need to talk about.
Evan Lionel for real. He brought us all into that.
You know what I'm saying he's still in LA and
anytime Chicago, Chicago, anything that happens with Chicago, we always
let him know why I'm in town. You know, he
looks out for Chicago shit. So DERAYL all of us
(35:16):
came through there. I saw everybody.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
D L. Hugley came through to everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Then we had a club called All Jokes Aside, which
was all black comedy club for like seven years. And
it was all black and it wasn't Black Knight at
a white establishment because most of the Black Knights at.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
A mainstream establishing urban I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
The rough nights economically, but what's your dream of The
funny is the urban knights are what keeps the clubs open.
Absolutely they make the most money. But they won't say
anything about that because and what's funny is most of
the African American headliners are the reasons why a lot
(35:59):
of these comedy clubs survive. It isn't the white ones.
It isn't the like it's like, the black ones always
kept shit going because the urban knights made much. It
was packed, yeah, because it was like, ooh, this is
all night, you know, and yeah, that's that's where we
that's where I came from watching all of the Mark Curry.
I just watched all the greats come through there, man,
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Like it was like, holy shit.
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So, speaking of back in those days, we're coming up
on the BT Awards next week. Oh you know, I
don't invite me to that ship, but go ahead, you
said don't invite you. I never get invited it really,
I don't get invites to.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Any of that shit.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
We just got invited because of Boost Mobile.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, well that's right. I just the Boost Mobile. But
you you were on like Comic View, you did the
BT Comic View.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I did that after they started paying us normal money,
because they used to pay you one hundred and fifty
dollars and make you pay your own way. I found
that out and I said, I'm with SAG. I ain't
doing this. I'm like, I'm with Sag out. Then they
then they go, we're now we're we have sag No, no,
we'll pay you this, and I go, okay, gentlemen, sal
that's cool. Yeah I'll do but i'll do it now.
Speaker 11 (37:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So I did it in Atlanta like two thousand, two thousand.
Comic View was big though, it was huge, but I
didn't want to do it one hundred and fifty dollars
and I'm good. Yeah, yeah, but I did it. I
did it four times. I did it La, Chicago, New Orleans,
and Atlanta, and yeah, it worked out.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I was happy because I liked I.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Liked Comic View.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
People were watching the shit out of it. It was
its highest rated show. And I said, well, you pay
us decent, I'll do it right. So yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
That was That was cool. Another platform that I always
speak about a lot, that I absolutely love growing up
that I think, you know, we don't speak about or
give enough praise to and living color. Oh man comes
the waynes famil genius. How important is a show like
that to black comics?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Man, it's super important because you look at something like
SNL and you had Eddie Murphy who changed the game.
But let's get Garrett Morrison props because he was the
first black member in nineteen seventy five. But then Eddie
Murphy took it to a level of he was the greatest.
He's the greatest SNL member ever ever so, but by
far because he was the only member to host while
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he was on the show. He hosted SNL while he
was on the show. Eddie Murphy brought it to number one.
SNL was in third place. Eddie Murphy brought it to
number one. Period, Like, ain'ty way fucking with Eddie Murphy?
Anybody said, ain't nobody? And there are some great ones.
Will Farrell's great, Mike Myers, There's a lot, Tim Kazarinsky,
Joe Piscopal, a lot of great ones like Mary Gross.
(39:08):
There was like what's her name? The one who does
the superstar? Oh Molly Shannon, Like oh Sherry O, Terry like,
there's some great but no one's fucking with Eddie Murphy.
No way, I'm sorry. Eddie was the shit, and that
was important, and everybody wanted to be Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Was like Eddie.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
We all wanted to be Eddie Murphy. And then when
in Living Color came, you go, what an all black sketch?
Because you were used to seeing white, all white sketch,
because most sketch like improv. I come from Chicago where
Second City. That's where a lot of people from SNL
come from. Sean Blushy was Blue Shee, Stephen Colbert, Chris,
Chris Farley. I worked as a bar back in Second City.
(39:53):
I got a job my friend was working. She goes,
you want a jog? Oh yeah, you know, I'm off
for colleges. She's like, yeah, you give you to work
in the bars? Say yeah, fuck it. You know wash
dishes make drinks. And that's when I saw Chris Farley,
and I go, who's that fat dude? That dude's funniest shit.
Tim Meadows and them. I would watch them. I'm like,
sixteen yo, that dude, that fat dude's slamming hisself into
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the table of shit. And he was from Wisconsin, but
he lived in Chicago. But a lot of Stephen Corbert,
a lot of people came what's her name, mom, what's Cherry? Oh,
Terry came from a second city. What's the main lady,
Tina Fey. They're all from second city Chicago. So their
sketch was sketches big in Chicago, all the improv Olympics are.
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But it was very white. It wasn't a black people,
not a lot of Asians, nothing. It was white dominated.
So to see in living color was like, yo, what
the fuck? And this is And Jim Carrey gives credit
to them absolutely because he goes, SNL rejected me. I
was the black people accepted me. Jim Carrey's like, nobody
(41:00):
chose me, nobody hired me. But it was Keenan Ivy Wayans,
Who's a fucking genius. Keenan is the one that made
me who I am, Jim Carrey said. And Jim Carrey
is the first guy ever opened up for in Chicago. Really,
Illinois Institute of Technology. My friend was an engineer, engineering
student and she was head of the student activity of
a black student. She goes, you want to open up
(41:21):
for Jim Carrey because I had just start. I said,
are you fucking kidding me? I love Jim Carrey, so
I opened up for him. I did ten minutes with
Harlan Williams if you know Harlan Williams. Yeah, and yeah.
That was my first big That was when Jim, right
before he blew up for Pet Detective. I was in
the basement with this motherfucker just talking to him. He's
the nicest dude, And now I'm friends with his daughter.
(41:42):
Years later, Jane, my boy is the data. Now I'm
cool with his daughter, which is insane.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
That's wow.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
What was that convo like in the basement.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It was just he was just like I was saying, oh,
so what do you do? You know, like, hey, what
are you up to?
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Well I got this to We were just talking normal shit.
He goes, oh, you're really funny. It was just and
I have a picture with him and that's when. Then
after that he just which he's so fucking talented. He's
scary talented. But I always but guys like Jim Carrey
and Eddie Murphy and and like from the Joan Rivers
to the Rodney Davisvielle to the Richard Pryors to the
Paul Mooney's to the Don Rickles to I grew up
(42:16):
watching greats man Sammy Davis Junior, like I grew up
watching Cole motherfuckers man, I said, I gotta be like that.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Being average to me is trash. I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Watching Michael Jordan like a motherfucker who would practice after
the games and shit, he would work on his shit,
Like when you're used to watching that in your life,
I go, that's how I want to be.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
I don't want to be.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Okay, fuck that. I think it's a. I think it's a.
It's a it's sacrilege for people to pay money to
watch average shit. To me, I don't. It doesn't mean
necessarily mean you have to like what I'm saying. But
as far as my skill level is the key I
grew up, I don't know. I grew up watching skilled performers,
and this is an era of mediocre motherfuckers man, Mediocre shit,
(43:03):
mediocre shit. It's I'm sorry, it's not a it's not
a hater thing. It's like, if you're good, I'm gonna
say it. I go, yo, that that's what I'm talking about.
Mediocre shit, Like, come on.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Do you think it's that or we just have more
access to seeing more people.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I think that the mediocrity has inspired more mediocre people.
I agree because when you when I was coming up,
you go, I can't do that shit. You were just
watching and go, damn fuck man. When you watch Jordan
and you watching you wing and all you oh god,
that's another level. Because I play baseball, football, you know,
I played all that. But to watch Shannon Shark play ball,
(43:42):
that's a whole other level. And I played college ball,
but I was like, damn, there's people better than me.
Fuck like, and you're like, I'm decent. Oh this dude,
what when you go to the pro levels? I tell
people the pro level. That's why when people are in
the stands talking shit about pro athletes, your mouth shut.
We're all we all suck. That's why we're sitting here
(44:03):
wearing this motherfucker's jersey, bitch, and your your face is
half painted.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Paid a lot of money to watch the faces half.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Painted with their names on their bellies, fucking bitches, And
you're going, man, he missed that past. You would have
missed it too, stupid. You would have been take the
pass right right. You're a flag football champion. If your
mouth he's a flag. Yeah, so I'm saying, like, I
just I really believe when you perform, you want people
to go. God damn. Yeah, that was That's what I'm
(44:32):
That's how I take my ship. I only know. I
only watched the best. So, but like, this business is weird.
It's like I didn't know show business was so weird
where when you were good to people had a problem
with that.
Speaker 11 (44:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I was like, wait, what because Bill Cosby I worked.
My first job was working with Cosby, like I was.
I was an audience coordinator in Queens, New York, and
I would you know, and to watch Cosby do his ship,
motherfucking no one, you don't wait fucking Cosby bro for real?
Like I saw this ship to do was to see
(45:04):
him do his work. I was like, ain't nobody fucking him?
Like because prior wanted to be Cosby. People understand he
inspired Richard Pryor Cosby is that I know all this
ship that's happened with him. But Cosby is the fucking king.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
What real audience that he asked you to coordinate?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Oh god, the fact that you waited for it. He
was like this, he was like wait, I gotta say it.
I don't like your eagerness. That pissed me off. He's
like this, you're like and ready. You were like because
you were telegraph, you were like that I did.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
It's like I saw the pitch coming. I smacked it
out the park like this. What's funny is I was
gonna take it back in my head. Forget about the
Cosby thing?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
What about? What did he now saying now say that
deserves a It was you know, where's where's the family feud? Buzzer?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Your ass?
Speaker 13 (46:07):
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And here's the question? Name something I want to say
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Speaker 3 (48:29):
Well, we talking about black comedians. Obviously Living Color some
great comics to come out of it. But another thing
about Living Color.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
They saved Fox though they literally saved Fox. And then
they changed the whole halftime highlight thing, you know, because
they the halftime they took the numbers away from halftime show.
That's how big they were. So they changed, they changed television.
They helped Fox. And because there was a time where
they say black people don't sell, which was bullshit, they
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actually do sell. Tommy Davis because Tommy Davison had come
to my college and performed. That's where I really got
inspired to do comedy. In my third year of college,
I was like no doubt and I hung out with
Tommy Davidson. And then when I started doing comedy, I
did a premium blend on Comedy Central when Comedy Central
was actually funny, and Tommy Davison was my host, which
(49:17):
was crazy crazy, and he had remembered me, Oh, you
showed me around your campus. Crazy shit. Yeah, But they
saved They saved Fox. Black people have saved Eddie Murphy
saved snl in Living Colored saved Fox. Wesley Snipe saved
Not Marvel in ninety nine because I hung out with
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Stanley three times. My friend used to work for Stanley
and when he was eighty nine and I was in
his office and he goes. He goes, yeah, God for
let me show you a picture of it. You say,
Wesley Snipes.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
There, Wes Sley Snipes.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
He saved Marvel.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
We were going up, We were going bankrupt if it
wasn't for Wesley Snipes.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Wesley Snipe saved fucking Marvel and we hadn't seen another
Yeah Blade did wow. Blades sold Wesley. I remember huge.
It was huge, and Wes and Blade one and two,
then three they started fucking it up, brought Ryan Reynolds
in all these Parker Plaza like he is getting corny now,
and you never saw another Blade again. And then the
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Blade that was coming out they stopped that production. Twenty
five years later, there's no Blade and it saved all
of Marvel. Then when Blades showed up on Deadpool, people
went like, oh my god, but black people sell. Look
at what Black Panther did. It went it was the
highest grossing Marvel film. We sell, man, you just don't
(50:36):
want us to have anything. You got to get out
of that old adage. Man, We sell. You know why
I know black people sell because you copy us all
around the world. Everybody's DJ and pop locking rapping. Fuck
you like black culture is the best culture on the planet.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
It's not if it was Asian culture, I'd say it.
Black culture is the best because I see Asians on TikTok, pop,
locking and DJ and I see everybody doing black shit.
So it's obviously selling, you know what I'm saying, So
fuck fuck your adage, get with it and just fucking
let people rock like black people sell. We're fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
I listen.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
I like white actors. I've been watching them all my life.
No choice, I love I had no choice. I love
Steve McQueen, I love Charles Broxyah, I love Clint Eastwood,
I love Ye there's other people. Why can't to be
Arab actors? Indian actors?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
What can you know?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
You ever see monkey Man? Monkey monkey Man is fire.
It's it's with Dave Patel from slum Dog Millionaire and
you know the guy, the little nerdy kid. He made
a movie called monkey Man. Jordan Peele produced it, say
I'm gonna produce it because he was trying to get
it sold. It was like sort of like a John
Wick but an Indian style, fantastic, and he said, I'm
(51:50):
tired of playing this stereotypical nerdy Indian dude, we know there,
we can do action, We can do the stuff like
the white guys do. And he sort of like funded
it himself, Jordan Peele, it is fantastic. It's like, we
don't mind seeing white actors, but the world seven percent
of the world is white, m seven percent. Yeah, population wise,
(52:13):
it's you guys, go by American standards. Yeah, seven percent
of the world is white. Seven the rest is brown.
Where the fuck are we? What's wrong with showing us?
Why is it killing you to just like, look what
Sinners did save the box office again, it's saved and
it's an original script three hundred four hundred million dollars.
(52:34):
And they tried to lie in Variety that wasn't doing well,
and Ben Stiller said, why the fuck would you do
that to them? Ben Stiller stood up and said, why
are you doing that? Sinners is murdering We sell man,
It's just good stories. That's all. People want to see themselves.
We don't. I don't want to see white round comms
all the time. Motherfucking black dudes are smooth as fuck.
(52:56):
We fuck a lot the fuck you talked about most
of the times you get your swag from us. That's
like talk to women. Put you acting like us so
and you get intimidated when we walk in the room.
So how are you the smoothest dude here? Fuck out
of here? Where the black rom Co? Where's everybody? Everybody?
I s'aw all, I'm saying, it's like, I love the
rom Coms, but we you know, nineties black movies were
(53:18):
fired the wood fucking the two complain that and then
they went away. It's like stop, It's like enough with
get out of your fucking head. Nobody's trying to take over,
nobody's trying to do anything to you. We just want
to win. Everybody can eat man. But it's just these motherfuckers.
He don't sell. Who the fuck you talk about? Where
have you been everywhere? I've been to over forty countries,
(53:40):
and I see every country I see they're rapping. I
went to when I was in Lithuania. I did a
show in Lithuania. All places they called me out there,
did a show, some little festival, and they took me
to a hip hop concert. It was all Lithuanians. I
was the only black dude there. I'm laughing my ass
off because these motherfuckers like holding a did and I'm
(54:02):
sitting and it said hip hoppos, And I said, you
guys are acting like black people, and you know what's
you know what's big in Lithuania basketball. That's why they
get a lot of bulp. They were hooping in the summer.
In the wintertime it was cold. Then they was hooping
for cards and cold shooting. They were like, oh, no,
(54:25):
basketball is like religion out here. Of course it is.
You're being black right now. When I'm in China, I'm
in basic hip hop. I was like, the fuck were
talking about? They're getting half FROs, they're making their hair
like ours.
Speaker 16 (54:41):
What you mean we don't sell all the K pop
girl group, that's all fucking temptations, new addishes, Black black
boy bend shit, that's black steps, that's black.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
I'm just saying it is what it. They don't don't
say that, we don't sell. Don't say that enough. I'm
just saying, enough with the racial slurs, enough making fun
of us, enough with the black face.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
Enough with that. We want we run rent free in
people's heads.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Black people are the most famous race because we run
rent free in everybody's head. Everybody's head. It's either they
got some good to say or they're on Oh okay,
that someone's doing it and where someone's wearing black face.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
You can't get enough of us, you can't. It is
what it is. We get it. You want our dicks,
but you so you gotta make fun because of insecurity.
We ain't thinking about you, honestly, we ain't thinking about you.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
We really not.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
But the only way you exist is by calling us names.
That just shows your exist. How about being a good
human being and go, hey, what's that's what you do?
But you gotta call us names so we can you
can show you exist because you know, we really don't
give a fuck about you.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
We really don't.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
And you know, if you come with the right you
coming to the right person, you can get fucked up
out here. And you know that because motherfucker's out here,
got hands. There's a different feat. I like how we
do that. We just throw that little tidbit we got here.
God And I told and I said, about those South
Africans that are coming here, try that to part that
shit out here. Try that ain't blicky. They will beat
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the accident out you out here. Motherfucker you got it twisted.
I know, I know New York is a Dutch colony.
It's an old Dutch colony, but this was sixteen hundred. Yeah, yeah,
be careful out here these Yeah, don't.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
I'm gonna tell you right now. There's a difference between.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Hate and rage. We have rage. You have hate for
no reason. Rage is all of us. We have every
reason to take your head off, but we don't do
that because that's not our nature. That's not our nature.
We as long as you cool, we go, oh man,
he cool as fuck, right, But then and we'll protect
you if you cool. But then you go say some
stupid shit, We're like, oh, we thought you. It's like, okay,
(56:48):
here's a perfect example. It's like when Kramer Michael Richards
said what he said. I worked with Michael Richards at
the laugh Factory, and I've sat with him. He's a
weird dude, but I sat as a comic. And then
he said all the N word shit and my shit.
And I remember walking down the streets and there was
these dudes. They're cleaning the streets. They was like that,
they got that program where they wear the blue little things.
(57:11):
It's like for prisoners, they got this cleaning program. And
I was walking, I was standing there by the train
station and these dudes was like, man, you hear that shit?
Cramer said, Man, Man, I love that motherfucker too. I
love he was my favorite character on Seinfeld. It was
black people talking about him. Wow, that was a disappointment.
I said, why, why, why are you still on that?
(57:32):
And then they'll say, move on, you guys need to
move on. You the only race that hasn't moved on.
You're the only ones you still call people niggas.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (57:41):
That's an old term for out of years, you still
saying the same shit. Everybody's moving on, but you you
still on that old at that old mentality. Get rid
of it, bro, and enough of it.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
There was a conversation on because you are Nigerian American,
Oh was this too heavy for your No?
Speaker 4 (58:00):
This was great, this is great, This was amazing. You
don't want me to ask this question?
Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, I definitely don't go question. But there was as
there was from the coordination.
Speaker 4 (58:08):
There was a time. There was a thing on the time.
I can't wait to say it.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
There was a thing on the timeline. It happens often
on the timeline where Black Americans and Black Africans.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3 (58:21):
Class Yeah, no doubt. We don't like this and y'all
we don't like each other. Yeah, what is that about. Oh,
that's like I said, it's you can give it to
the media for that credit.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
One thing. Okay, here's the reason why the Asians got
their Asian Hate Bill signed. I remember, they got that
shit signed in seconds, two days, because they're connected to
because they're connected to Asia. Chinese people still got connection
to Asia and the Asians, and they got they got
deals with Asia, so they go it would be hoove
us to sign this hate bill because the Asians in
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Asia look out for the Asians here because they got
family out here that are sting establishing themselves, even though
Chinese had been here since what the.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Early seventeen hundred, eighteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, built the railroads for Anderson Cooper's granddad.
Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah, it was it Oakland, Nor Vanderbilt. San Francisco, Yeah,
San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah. Cornelius Vanderbilt is Anderson Cooper's great grandfather. Yeah, and
there's a statue of him on forty six. You know
when you make that turn off of Park Avenue. That
statue that's his great great grandfathers. And this Cooper comes
from that kind of money. He literally lives in a firehouse,
the one on Third Street that used to be right
next to the Boston Comedy Club. He bought that whole firehouse.
But he's loaded like that, like Gloria Vanderbilt. That's his mother,
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famous tsider. So the Chinese look out for their people.
They go, those are our people. You better sign some
shit what you're doing. Africa's divided, see, because Europeans came
and purposely divided the African countries. You know, you have
to have a passport to go to the neighboring country,
(01:00:00):
but in Europe you could take a train to Italy
to France, and I took a train from Spain from
Amsdam to Spain that you don't need to passport. But
they came. The Europeans came when they were colonizing and
taking all the resources. They literally purposely boarded off African
countries so Africans couldn't meet each other. That's where the
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division comes from colonization. So when on TV, you know
I was born in America, My sister was born in Nigeria,
memb my brother born in America, grew up in Chicago,
born in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
My father was in school in Nebraska. Then we moved
to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
So on TV, we've watched Africa and it'll be poor people,
flies and tarzan and now.
Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Even asked my dad is this whatever he is, they
will tell you took it. We have caught, we have.
Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
We were like right, So then they show that to us.
So Africans African American are like, damn, these Africans are
fucked up. Then in Africa they show black Americans being
arrested criminals, drug dealing, so they they're so they purposely
did that because they didn't want any black progress. That
was like, we can't let these motherfuckers rise. So that's
(01:01:09):
why when you when the African meets in African American,
they'd be like, oh, you're black African booty scratches.
Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
All its black African booty scratches.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I was like, we scratch our butts. I used to think,
and I didn't even want to scratch my ass, like
I don't want to stereotill you don't mention, you don't
want to do this. But then we were thought and
then Africans be like, oh, you guys are lazy. God
da dah. And African Americans are some of the most
unlazy people. If you know the history of African American history,
(01:01:40):
they built this fucking country. Lazy. White people were lazy.
They weren't doing anything. Black people did everything. You'd even
know that denim. Denim is a black convention. Denim jeans
are a Black invention because they created them to work
in the fields. Denim you talk about, I'm just saying,
the elevator, the escalator, all of this black inventions.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
The street sweepers a black invention.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
But it makes sense. We were working all the time.
The ironing board, the dryer, refrigeration, it's black. The microphones
we talk on. The guy's still alive. He created it.
James West, black inventor Our security system nineteen sixty six
of a black nurse, Mary Van Brighton in Queens just
(01:02:26):
she created the fucking security system. You understand where I'm
coming from. It's like, we created so much African Americans
created lazy fuck are you talking about? But they were stolen.
Patents were stolen. Thomas Edison stole a lot of Black
people shit, and man, he was a great inventor, but
he stole a lot of shit too, and he did
a lot of shit, horrible shit. To Jewish people who
(01:02:47):
were trying to make movies. That's how Hollywood was created.
They had the more link la because Thomas Edison was
trying to take off because he had created the movie camera.
But then there were like a lot of little Jewish,
like you know, immigrants, going I want to start, we
want to start doing movies. And that's how the Nickelodeons
were made. The Nickelodeons were little, you know, little doe
(01:03:08):
little films. You put a nickel in and you'd watch,
and Jewish people were like, you know, renting them out,
and they were so anti semitic. Thomas Edison and Henry
Ford were anti semitic. Get these motherfuckers out of here.
And a lot of them went West and then started
creating Louis B. Mayer, Warner Brothers, these are all real people,
Fox Ilium, Fix. They started creating their own shit, you
(01:03:31):
know what I'm saying, because of people stealing all. You
know what I mean. I'm just saying, but survival, It
was just survival. That's why when you see like the
whole Jewish story is heavy, like they were getting the
asses whooped, and they go, what's create our own shit?
Same with black folks. Creating, creating. Look at all of
American music, all of it blacks people oppressed. We create
(01:03:53):
country music. Country music is black, so absolutely fuck all
that shit. Yeah it's black. It was poor black people
singing and poor whites like all saying too, you know,
but we call it blue Grett, it's black. Well, the banjo,
it's it's African. It's Africa. There's there's a there's a
museum in scott Steal, Arizona of all places, called the Music,
(01:04:14):
the Museum of Instrumental Music. It's mem I think they
have one in Austria. When you walk in there, it's
all the instruments from their original origin. Every continent. They
divide them all. In Africa is the biggest one. Of course,
they have Australia. If you look at Australia, you'll they
have video of the actual instrument being played. Australia. You
(01:04:35):
gotta see Australia. Fuck you up. They show the Aborigines, okay,
and so everybody's like good a. They go, those are
the original Australians and they're playing the digeridoo. They're playing
all these instruments that people thought it was white, and
it's the They show the black people with their their
tribal marks, and it's just them and I go the
(01:04:56):
original ship and then when you walk into another place,
there's the original banjo. The banjo African. So all these
hillbillies have been going the nang playing an African instrument,
you understand. So all of that is like, all of
that they don't want. That's why they you know, this
administrates say we got to stop black history, got to
(01:05:17):
ban all the books because they don't want you to
know what the fuck has been done, what they did
because most of us, be honest, most of Black American
history is about being shited on. Oh absolutely, that's all.
They were being ship and it's and that's why they go,
we don't want to talk. No, no, no, we need
to talk about it. You know why we need to
talk about it. We got to understand why you still
(01:05:38):
acting that way right now. You have to know history,
and I don't want to sound corny. You have to
know history to assess how motherfucker is Now why do
you act like that? Where's this coming from? Well we
just move on, No, but you call me the N word,
I need to know where it comes from. Oh gotcha.
That's so that helps me to be able to navigate,
you understand. So it's like, oh, hey, if you go
(01:06:00):
to the doctor, what's the first thing they pull out.
What's the first thing they pull out?
Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Your insurance for him.
Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Some real shit, you can't help it. But the first
thing they pull out is your medical history. Yeah, absolutely,
they go, oh and they make you go, you can
fill this out? Have you had none of you It's
all history the dentist to bring out Okay, when you
was last here, let's see.
Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
That's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
But for us it's always just can we just move?
But everybody else's history gets talked about, but us it's like, oh,
here we go with the black shit. H Well, you're
enjoying half of our shit. You're en enjoying black shit every.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Day every day.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
You just got back from Beyonce concert, and you're mad
about history. Now you just Beyonce comes from this pain.
Jay Z comes from where you think hip hop comes from.
It comes from pain. Black people were doing it. It
was it was black folks, rapid period jazz, black everything,
(01:07:00):
Scott scat Scott music is it's it's Caribbean rock and roll,
and it was a lot of white bands playing the
ship punk rock is black. You can look at the
you can look at the band called Death documentary that
predates the Ramones. Black Ship Stop rock and Roll. Oh
you got it. They got sued for plagiarismody. No white
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guy goes I'll be your back door man, that's a
black rift. White guys, Hey, baby, that's a black riff.
When you go baby, look, that's black singing.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
It's just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
The only reason why we say it like that, we
got to express it because you have been putting us
down so much. But the very thing you're playing is
the people you hated are the ones that created it.
Because anybody that plays music you have to go through
black people, all of them. They'll all tell you, oh,
he started listening to Muddy Walters, and we start listening
to the Temptations, And I watch a lot of rock documentaries.
(01:08:02):
They you know that new that new documentary yacht Rock.
I have you know about yacht rock. It's just like
Michael you know, Michael McDonald, you know what a fool
all that shiit skags, bile skags, all of that ship,
George Benton all that like it's like soft rock but
not too soft, but funky I'm watching watching it on
(01:08:24):
It's a great it's a great doc and I'm watching
it and these guys created this these they did these
skits about yacht rock. They made it up, and they
have these captain's hats and they play this music on
this boat. And it was just that type of music
soft rock but not but rock but doesn't rock too hard.
And it's right in the middle. And Michael McDonald and
Christopher Cross are main people from there, and and then
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I'm like waiting. I'm like, I'm waiting for the black part,
and so I'm waiting to go. Basically, we're playing like
black funk.
Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I told you, of course you are.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
That's what we love Michael McDonald because he has a black.
Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
To a lot of people didn't even know Michael McDonald
was black until I found that out.
Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
They didn't know Billy Caldwell was Bobby Callickwell, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's some favorite song. And they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Hall and Oates they're from Philly. I read a whole
thing about it. There used to be this really good
magazine called Wax Poetics WP. They got raves about like
alternative shiit like underground Hippie was a dope ass magazine
I used to get from Barnes and Noble, and I
was reading about Hall.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
And Oates and they go, we learned that ship from
the Temptation.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
They used to take us on the road Motown, the
Philly Sound and Philadelphia, the Sound of Philadelphia tsop. It
was all the Pattila bells and we learned from them, like,
of course you did, because you play like them. And
but I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
What I don't understand is the same people you plur from.
Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
You don't like I don't. That's a weird. That's that's
a disease. That's a psychosist to me. Tony Morrison said
it best. What are white people without racism?
Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
What are you? Are you any good? You're just out
there strung out with your Look what are you without it?
Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I'm just what are you?
Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Irish?
Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Looked very irish, Rory. I was like, well you look
very but but but the Celtics, the Celtics come from Africa.
Celtic Celtic Celtics history is African. If you know about
the Celtics, it's African shit, it's you look it up
really read, Yeah, it's African. So I mean, but then
(01:10:29):
the story of Saint Patrick's day. That snake thing had
to do with the pigmies, had to do that them
getting the Pigmies out of that area. I just and
there was an Irish historian that said it. I was like,
what he goes, he didn't drive out the snakes. It
was the African Pigmies that were there. That's where it
came from. So, I mean a lot of people got.
Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
To We tried to change it to getting the British
out of Yeah, but I know the original right, it's
still Africans. We changed it to make it fun.
Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I'm s but the little in willy Wonka are black slaves,
but they change it to green people.
Speaker 14 (01:11:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
I just read all the shit.
Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Just look it up.
Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
I go, what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah? Yeah man.
Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
So it's like the history of us and society has
been it's been fucked up. So when we talk about
our history, it's all about you fucking with us. And
then but the fact that we create this cold ass
shit called jazz and blues and beboping gospel and sketch,
that's that's some magical ship to me. And then you
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profit off of it. You could at least say thank you,
because they go because like, you know, when you talk
about this, people go, you don't like white people, and say, now,
why are you going in there? Why you just uncomfortable
I'm talking to you. Why I don't like white people?
I don't like your behavior. It's a behavior I judge
people by. There's black people that I don't like talking about.
(01:11:55):
I judge people. But you're so caught up in not
owning up to anything and learning that it's the guilt
ship you don't like white people? Really, is that what
it is? I go, I shouldn't like you.
Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
At least I got reason.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
At least I got reason to not lie. I really
have a reason to not fuck with you. But I'm
not like that. You know, But you don't have a
reason to hate us.
Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
You just do?
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
You just out of nowhere. I don't like you. Why
I don't like you? What kind of sense does that make?
But you all up in our soup? You all up
in our soup?
Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Do?
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
And I even said, okay, segregation, that's fine. Well let's
let's have segregation then, but this time it has to
be equal.
Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Though.
Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
You can't come and burn our towns, You can't come
and ride with your sheets, And yeah, that's that's that's
that day is over.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
You ain't gonna try that this time. No, no, no,
you know you ain't coming back a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
That's facts.
Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
You're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Ehaw shit here second amendments.
Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah. It's no good when the rap. It's
no fun when the rabbit gets the gun and motherfuckers
are gunned up. And I've seen these videos. Everyone's like, man,
no dog, yo, man, we're ready for all this race
walk shit. If you're ready for that smoke dog, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
We have switches.
Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
What I think is like they talking about race war.
But as soon as your mom or your daddy get
fucked up, now you're gonna be like, wait stop because
you've done too much and people ain't playing with you
no more. Rage is different when it's built up, built up.
You don't know what a man is capable of. When
it's ray, when you're just hating off of just when
you have real, real rage, and this is years of it,
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you're dealing with the wrong motherfucker. Man, You don't understand.
People are tired of this kind of behavior. Women are
tired of men with their shit.
Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Women are tired of this ship, were tired of that stop.
We're sick of it, man, and you can see it now.
We tired of that shit. There's rage. I just hate women.
Why you came from one?
Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I got I got news for you, your game.
Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Right for you. I got news for you. And that's
real ship, Like why.
Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Do you hate him so much? Why? Like something's wrong
with you? Came from one? Bro?
Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Like it's it's the same thing. But don't underestimate them.
They're tired of your ship. That's all I'm saying. I'm
just like, you know, I just that's the thing I
think of it. It always says, when you're a conscious man,
you're a dune man. That's what James Baldwin said, and
it's like you just when you I read so much
since college, I've always read, and you know, in Chicago,
I would go see Minister the Minister.
Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
I would go see him live. So I was just
learning so much ship and I was around, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I had Sister Soldier come to our school, Stokely Carmichael,
Francis cres Welson. We had Daruba ben Wahad, who was
actual Black Panther member with a Phoene shakor. He's in
the do you see the documentary Tupac and he's in that,
and he came to my college. I fucking we'd start
with him. So I was that dude listening to public
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Enemy Cares like all that brand Nubian honestly peace of
the Gods and earths, the flat earthers and the flat
But it was like all of that consciousness was like,
and I go, pro blackness doesn't mean anti anything. It
means pro we proud of who we are because you
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have to exaggerate your pride because people are shitting on
you every day. And then the images. Think about the
images they show of us. So that's why we're Africans
in black with flight because oh, you guys are lazy, Well,
you guys don't have no food. It was media, but
now you see things are changing. Look at what Ibraham Chiore,
the brother from berkinas Fosso and the Mali and they've
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kicked out the French. Like there's a couple of black
leaders that are coming together going we're gonna have no
more taking our shit anymore. Because Europe survived. I didn't
know that Europe was surviving off of African resource when
I was little, thinking wow, they got diamonds and where
did they get all this from? You're stealing from Africa.
Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
I didn't know the reason. The UK is a small
ass island.
Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
It's continents peninsula Europe, and the UK is so tiny
United Kingdom right right, It's like primitive Africans. The spear
is one of the smartest weapons ever ever, ever invented.
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You can do everything with the spear, bo staff, you
can do everything, hunt, you can do walk with it.
Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
You can.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
And we were the primitive ones. It's like, but but
I understand. If you're less, if you're a smaller group
of people, how do you control a bigger group of people.
You gotta find the ways to divide and conquer, you gotta.
It's actually a brilliant It was brilliant. God give them
credit for that. Then you you mentally fuck them and
say you ain't ship for a long time, and then
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they start fighting each other and then they want to
be like the guys, and it's actually brilliant. I ain't mad.
I'm mad, but I ain't mad at it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
You understand it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
That's the only way. It's like, it's all about capitalism,
money domination. I get it, you know, but at this
day and age, like come on, we still still doing that.
We got people like you know you probably this is
your boy. You're going back him up on anything like
this is my man? Fuck you talking about there's groups
like that that grow up. There's there's white dudes that
(01:17:29):
grown up with nothing but black people that are adopted
by black people that are and vice versus, like, nah,
this is my name, this is my man. No, fuck
who you are? Fuck you're talking about like you know
what I'm saying. That's the ship we should be on.
You work with the people that you work with, Like
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I got my Oh, by the way, I.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Got my my hour special. I'll be doing next week
And when is this coming out? Tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Tomorrow? Next week, I will be doing my hour special
at the Apollo. Finally, shit, finally I stay the week.
It's it's what does it? Day's Thursday, Thursday, June twelfth.
There's a six pm and a nine pm. But if
you guys want me on this whatever, Yeah, And I
got my producer, Rachel Fraser, who is fantastic. She put
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this all together, man, like fucking just and I had
I had Shaq called me to kick me like two
years ago. He goes, it's time for you to do
your special. He's like, let me know how what it is.
I said, all right, I'll tell you, Shaq. So he
goes and I said, I'm gonna raise some money for
myself though, and I give a shout out to the
go fund me. My fans were like, why don't you
do go fund me. I raised some money for that
(01:18:40):
with go fund me. Thank you for my fans for
doing that shit. And I said, let me at least contribute,
you know.
Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
And then.
Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I told Shaq I go. I said, Shack, I'll do
Sony Hall. It's about four hundred to five hundred people.
He goes, come on, man, think outside the bucks, get bigger. Okay, fine,
So we look at King's Theodore in Brooklyn. Then we
look at the Apollogoes. That's too big. I was like,
the fuck you talk about? So Rachel, Rachel puts it together,
(01:19:13):
puts on because that's what she does. She's a producer,
line producer, she does all that shit. She knows all
the business. So she put down a whole schematic of
what it's to cost the over everything to detail, send
it to Shaq. No, man, it's too much. And then
he sends me his fucking contract of what he did?
You know, shack all stars? Yeah, I go, Shaq, that's
(01:19:35):
not the same thing. You just got a bunch of
comics doing ten to fifteen minutes. This is a special
has to look right you your ship looks like you
shot it. He goes, no, that's not true. I was like,
dog the fuck man, I go, But Shaq got me
off my ass to do it. I give him that
(01:19:55):
credit to I'm still ask him for some kind of money, Yeah,
what about for commercial? But he kicked me off. He
was like, yo, you gotta you gotta start, you gotta
do your special. And will i Am gave me some money.
Like I didn't ask for it, he gave it to me.
He's a fan will i Am as part of executive
producing it. And another brother named Rodrigo who's just a
(01:20:16):
capital venture capitalist that was a fan of mine. Want you.
I don't give name, like my boy said, I don't
care if it's coke, I'll just go yeah hundred three.
But he's a he's a businessman who has been a
big fan of mine and just really contributed to I
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didn't even ask, And then I got a great message.
Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Can I play that? Where's my phone? Can you give
me my phone?
Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Watch this? This is pretty kick ass. I like to
brag about it, but hopefully I won't have to brag
and I'll be his friend and it'll just be normal
to me. But I had a really nice message left
for me for this and I and I don't even
know him like that, but he's he's he's liked my
stuff before, and uh, it's a big deal to me. Ship.
(01:21:07):
Watch this ready, you guys ready? Yeah, this is kick ass.
I want to play this ready, Yo, brother, it's rock here.
Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Just checking in with you, man.
Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I just saw your post about.
Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
About the Apollo.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Dude. It's fucking amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I know you're gonna rock that house.
Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
Man.
Speaker 17 (01:21:33):
Keep doing the Keep doing great work, brother, keep kicking assen.
I'm always supporting your man, always rooting for.
Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
You to win.
Speaker 17 (01:21:39):
But the fucking Apollo, come on, man, I love it
all right, dude, keep killing it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
We'll talk so congrats on that.
Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
The rock in the middle of a squat set. Wow,
he's like this.
Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I'm lifting buildings right now.
Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Yeah, just getting fucking more diesel and more rich.
Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Listen, future president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Absolutely he should be.
Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Yeah, it's coming for sure. The rocky ten years.
Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
You smell with the rocks cooking as I'm cooking a deficit.
We need it.
Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
He goes, Let me tell you, man, I'm gonna go
into I'm gonna go into Russia. I'm gonna go there.
Me tell I'm not having this ship playing and sip.
Everyone's like, ah, hey, do you smell with the rocks cooking?
Like remember remember Fast and Furious Touretto. You're under arrest Touretto,
(01:22:30):
And that's what's gonna happen. That's not a bad rock.
Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Let me throw you off his train.
Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
I could just see the Rock going, Hey, we asked
you about the nuclear situation. Looks like you're gonna get
your fun. You're gonna get fucked up. Don't let me
come back here to have to negotiate.
Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
The Rock is spoken. That's dope, man, that's fire the rock.
You're not sure if he hates you or if he's right.
Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
But the fact that I thought it was a mistake,
I was like, I'm looking. I'm in North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I was like the fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
I was a Raleigh and I was like, Yo, you
see this ship.
Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
The rock man, And I was like, wow, that was
fucking cool Man June twelfth, June twelfth Man. You go
to Ticketmaster or ticket on sale. I think it's tickets
on sales. We can put a ticketmaster. Go to Ticketmaster
and just and listen. If you're sensitive, don't come. If
you don't like profanity, don't fucking come. All right. If
(01:23:25):
you're open minded, I talk about race, I talk about religion,
just don't come a few centsitive, I ain't got time
for that ship. I want a nice audience to have fun.
No take nothing, don't take nothing personal. But if you
don't like my style, do not come in there full.
Some people will come just to be an asshole. I
don't want that.
Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
I don't want to can write a blog because I
don't want to drop kick you. I'll run off and
drop I don't want to drop out you. Godfrey, we
need you all because they do this all the time
when the time, like the mount rushmorees, who is God's
Godfrey's Mount Rushmoes of black comics.
Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Of comics period, I'm wearing one, okay, George calling Carlin
well prior Carlin Mooney.
Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Mooney.
Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Yeah, let's see Cosby. Sorry, but you heard comedy wise that.
Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
The women were the people, and then and the god say.
Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
And then that's what they did see.
Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Even trying to think was like, man, shut your ass up,
nigga ship God, damn is Mike, I'm still doing the
prior movie.
Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
I don't know. I have no idea. I know he
was talking about. I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
I feel like they shot it's.
Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Up and down.
Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
I don't it's in it out because I know they
had Marlin for it, and they had Damon Wayans for it,
and they had but then they had another a British
dude that was supposed to His name was Lenny Lenny
Henry or something, and he did a really good pride
say down it's my ass.
Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Ship.
Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
That's a good man. Man, suck my.
Speaker 10 (01:25:00):
Where the cocaine? You know, white people use mother because
you don't know the life. Folks can fight, You can't
whoop out white ass.
Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Scary.
Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
How fucking He sounds exactly like Richard from Terrence Howard
to Richard Pryor total.
Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
I tell you, I get no respect. What a crawl, crawl,
what a crowd. I appreciate you, man, I did name
all I said prior Yeah, Carling, Carling, Mooney, yeah, Mooney,
Red Fox, Yeah, thank you very much. Thank you. My
name is Red Fox. And the one thing I want
to say.
Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Is wash your ass.
Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
You got to wash your ass.
Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
What do you think of Quincy Jones is h one
of his last interviews talking about prior, Marvin Gaye, everybody
fucking each other. That was one of the woes that was.
Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Interviews. There was an ed.
Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Marvin, you know, I mean prior prior talked about fucking
another dude.
Speaker 10 (01:26:05):
He's like, look at act like they ain't never fucking no,
that's what he said. He's like, motherfuckers don't want to
admit they mother fuckers don't admit they got some nick in.
Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
They asked, I ain't. Man, I fuck the ship. The
ship was good, but.
Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
We're to move that to the intro. Like Carl is like,
earth Day, fucking I'm getting tired of that ship. I'm
tired of that ship.
Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Earth Day.
Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
You think a couple of plastic bags they're gonna save
the fucking earth.
Speaker 18 (01:26:44):
Plastic strokes And he's like, oh, you niggas is in trouble. Niggas,
White folks, hey be careful. White women cry. Everybody's in jail.
Everybody's gonna need that damn jail oh you need He's like,
all you house niggas are scared. I don't want to
be scared.
Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
But I know, nigga, I know these white folks. Don't
fuck with these white folks. I don't trust know what nobody.
Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Why was it you that told me you went to
a Mooney show? And he read the paper the entire set.
Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Oh hilarious. So I'm at Caroline and he does up
to three hours. You don't give a fuck. He goes
and he's like, I love when white people leave. That
means that means I haven't lost my touch. White folks
always leave. They don't like the truth. I don't like
the bullshit. I don't go for the goddamn bullshit.
Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
Yo.
Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
He read the paper, the paper, sitting reading the paper,
he was laughing. Of course, it's so funny. In today's news,
white folks kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Niggas are acting a goddamn for Mexicans are getting deported. Yeah,
legendary important, Yeah and read. Yeah those are my and
I love Jordan River. I love old school people. But
they're on top five. They go all right, But I
named Mooney prior Cosby fun Yeah, those are my, like
my favorite se I watched still. I watch a lot
of Scarlet, I watch a lot of Prior, I watch
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a lot of Mooney. They make me. I'm just love
it because there's just the edge and not giving a
fuck and keeping it one hundred.
Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
That's my style.
Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
That's my style. But Cosby's storytelling. Ain't nobody fuck with him? Yeah,
because my wife and see and then and it was
damn Yeah. I watched him in concert. I go, I
need to get back to the lab. Good. He did
two hours on two jokes about his wife not being
his friend anymore and his best friend.
Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
It was just like, what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Masterclass? Yeah, and I thought my wife was my friend
and McCart and then said.
Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Said, I see, I'm not gonna talk the.
Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Fuck it's too bad with all the ship but yeah,
quite possibly the greatest TV joke of all time was
when Cosby was leaving the courthouse and just hit him
with one of those.
Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's you know, he's still show.
Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
That was so funny, the funny.
Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
That used to be a ship. Yeah, absolutely, he's what
the fuck like doing.
Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
That coming out of the courtroom and he's like and
then he just hit him with that.
Speaker 8 (01:29:11):
It was like that was some funny ship because the
dude that's watching them, he didn't just do that. I'll
see you absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Walk out June twelfth, Apollo Theater. Godfrey on my.
Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Instagram, on your Instagram. It's a Godfrey comic is my Instagram.
And they gave me my my TikTok back okay, because
they banned me. Godfrey Funny is my TikTok. You know
that's it? All right?
Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
Well, listen to my.
Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Podcast is in Godfrey We Trust and Godfrey.
Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Tdays one of my savorite podcasts. You guys aren't talking about. Absolutely,
I was tapped. I didn't just go for the flat
air ship.
Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
I was tapped. I didn't know I was.
Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
You know, sometimes they don't really tell you numbers and
ship you'd be.
Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Like, no, specifically, say Rory's watching.
Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
I know, fucking.
Speaker 11 (01:29:59):
That's my boy A right to you, Roy, that's my
new drop. I love me some Rory ring on the
Rory fucking Iris one.
Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
I fucking everything, bro. You gots telling them about it all?
Love WILLI