Episode 381 | So Be It - New Rory & MAL

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Speaker 2 (00:35):
The volume.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
O WILLI Enough?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I was told you, how Rory, have you waiting outside
a party to try to get in a MEGANI Stallion
party too?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Wait? Have you waiting outside of the repeat of asa story?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
No? You have me waiting?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
No?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
I always bought my Paloza tickets. Anyway, it was a
Meganastallion party that he was supposed to meet me at.
Do He decided he wasn't gonna go and told me
to just use his name. And I used his name
and they said, we don't know who the fuck a
Rory Ferrell is. So I got all dressed up to
go to a Megan thee Stallion fucking pop up and
couldn't get.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
In heart broken, my heart.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Where was this?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
This was like twenty nineteen.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
It was at the Chinese pre pandemic.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was like the Chinese it never even happened.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
That was a simulation. The world started after twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, you know that whatever Chinese theater or Chinese restaurant
that's like had people have stuff in something?

Speaker 7 (01:26):
Oh, the one in Chinatown, I think so, Yeah, Okay,
I don't remember that at all, but I'm sure, I mean,
I think I know the restaurant you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm sure. I'm sure you don't. Megan was in there
and I could have met her, and you fucking dropped
the ball.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
If somebody told my name was on the list that
I trust, I'm just gonna assume it's there. Of these
money and what they say to do that Like maybe
you just didn't say it correctly, But.

Speaker 8 (01:46):
When you said you could have met Meg, what that
means like you was gonna just walk up to her.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, it was like one of those close, like intimate
when she was doing the Hot Girl, the Hot Girl
like pop.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Up party, like walking around me.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
She was, Yeah, she.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Was like dancing with her fans and stuff like that.
This was back, Like I said, this was back to
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 8 (02:01):
It was a little bit they were still doing like
promo shit. Yeah, she wasn't like selling out Arenas yet.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
But then I mean, if you think about it, Oh
what's she twenty nineteen?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I don't think she was selling out Arenas yet. No,
she could have, but.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:12):
But you know, Jamaris is charming towards women. That could
have been some butterfly effect. Like what if they hit
it off that night and then Demeris ended up in
that car mm hmm and the.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Nigga was complaining that they was eating Kucia.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
That night, the one with gun residuing it.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Oh oh my god, why would you?

Speaker 6 (02:31):
What's I saved your life? No, but that was in
La though.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
That wasn't I'm saying. They could have hit it off
and she could have been the new Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Okay, let's know how everybody welcome to mallout a name?

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Oh listen, I love it. I'm here for what could
a new Orrian?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Mall?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Guys, how are you happy June teeenth?

Speaker 8 (02:50):
Happy June teeth? They got me working. I gotta did
not turner.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
You mean you have you working, You have you working.
It's a journy truth. Harriet got me out.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
They still got me out here, working man still got
to pay the meters?

Speaker 6 (03:05):
All right, parking talking parking? Wait, did I just pay
the meter?

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I shouldn't, ad because the banks are closed.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Off the banks is closing. I don't think that a paper.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
And I found parking really easily today. So yeah, because
no one's at work.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Well here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
I didn't even know because it just became a national holiday.
I know part of my wife face. But like banks
closed as of this year, right or last year?

Speaker 6 (03:25):
No, I think it was probably the first year.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
I don't think they closed Juneteenth last year, and I
don't think so I could be wrong.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Listen, they they texted us at nine pm that there
was no daycare today, like all of us had the
day off or some shit.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
So everything probably went into effect last.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Night right at nine pm.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
It was like the end of the work day yesterday.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Is like they decided.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
They were closed last year. Okay, Well, happy June seens.
June seenth was just like a social.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Twenty twenty one.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's been a it's been a Why would you think
it was a social media holiday. When you said that
in the group chat, I just kind of.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Like looked at it.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
It would have been worse if I said that.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
So shame it is just a social media holiday. As
far as you don't feel Juneteenth, well, this.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Is the second you don't feel. We didn't even know
the banks was closed last year. It just happened.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
They didn't know one I've been I've been celebrating June
teen since I was five years old.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I used to dance team festival.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
I'm not saying it's I'm saying recognized by the United
States as a day.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
No, I do understand all day off that started on
twenty that's one, okay, So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You can't say you didn't field June teenth like that.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
No, like Black people who celebrate like came up celebrating
Juneteenth like I had. I danced at June teen festivals
growing up, Like June teeth has always been a thing
within our community. White people didn't recognize it, but we did.
So that's why when you said you didn't feel and
I'm like, that just must be like a New.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
York City thing.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Possibly, but in the South that's a that's a that's
a real fucking holiday.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
I'm saying. I can't speak for the South. I'm never
speaking for the South. I'm speaking for five boroughs, New
York City.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
But yes, we are back. End of the week.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
Yes, happy Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Whenever you are listening to this.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
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Speaker 5 (05:02):
Mobile, absolutely shut out the boost. We're gonna boost right.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Through the weekend. A lot did happen over last night? Overnight?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Well, did a lot of stuff happen last night? I
don't know. It's like breaking up a few days. I
like waking up and just.

Speaker 8 (05:16):
Like hearing like the shit that happened when I wasn't
on social media, like for the night.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Well, I feel like this has been going on for
quite some time. It's just you know, it's going to
continue as rap continues. Yeah, Travis Scott versus push your
t MM. When the clips put out so Be It,
I felt like a hip hop novice because at the
end of so Be It, which I think is incredible
by the way, I think the clips are two for two.
The visual is incredible as well. I thought pusha t

(05:43):
was dissing Kanye West just out the gate, and I
thought he was just using utopia because Travis is man like.
I just thought that was a wordplay thing. And then
the timeline started debating and I was like, well, that'd
be weird if he would just diss Travis Scott like
and first, well, I'm a hip hop nerd.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
It's got to be about Kanye.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
And then within fifteen minutes pushing t was like, nah,
it's directly about Travis Scott was talking about Kye was
a though, h.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
Well, Kanye caught a little bar maybe.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
Yeah, but he I mean he caught one on the
first one as well, with trumpets like push your tea
has been continuing wats to get his juice fixing.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Thank you, Josh. This is like my my spinach, No.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
It is spinach.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, yeah, it's like literally spinach.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Definitely is.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
So yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
The exact bar at the end of so Be it
was you cried in front of me, You died in
front of me. Calabasis took your bitch and your pride
in front of me. Her utopia had moved right up
the street, and her lip gloss was popping.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
She ain't need you to eat. What does any of
that shit mean?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, we can we can break it down. Josh pulled
that up, pull the lyrics.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
The net gonna call it the way they see it,
But I got the video I can share and a
eot they wouldn't believe it, but I can't unsee it.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Luckily I ATMZ it so be it, so be it?
All right? So we want to start right here?

Speaker 7 (06:58):
Do we want to start in the timeline of why
the fuck PUSHA T Is dissing a non rapper?

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (07:06):
This goes back at the end of the day Bape
may be the greatest fashion brand of all time to
the chaos that it has caused hip hop bait. I
think Bape has caused more chaos and hip hop than
maybe Ronald Reagan did at this point.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yoh what?

Speaker 7 (07:25):
This all goes back to a fucking baite hoodie and
some Bape sneakers. This all goes back to clips Birdman
Lil Wayne, which again I don't want to go in
super detail because we did that when we had to
explain the Push A T and Drake beef. But it
all started there. Everything trickled down that got to Pushing Drake.
We saw where that ended up, which I still think
has something sort of to do with the Kendrick and

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twenty v one.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I still think it.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
It derives.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
So Push goes on, I forgot was the New York Times.
He goes to explain after so be it that Travis
Sky barged into the middle of a clip session with Pharrell,
you know, similar to what I do in sessions, just
just pretend to be a fly on the wall and
then just overtake everything and ruin the entire vibe. So

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he goes in there to play Utopia for Farrell plays
every song, even plays Meltdown, just without the Drake verse.
There is footage which I guess was from like the
Utopia doc or something, which, of course the clip to
make it look funny, but Farrell's face was like, Yo,
get the fuck out of my studio.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
He was just bopping his head like mmm.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
So we don't think Pharrell was feeling the Utopia probably was.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
He probably was, So he doesn't play the Meltdown verse
that Drake has leaves the studio after ruining their session uninvited,
and then we hear Meltdown where Drake is clearly dissing Farrell,
which again I think is kind of fine.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
Because you're affiliated with Push.

Speaker 7 (08:55):
Like I just think if your man's just standing there,
sometimes anybody could kind of get it hm, which Push
found to be disrespectful on Travis's behalf yeah, but not
be telling him to come in heah, don't come in here,
ask for Farrell's co sign. Farrell let you film interrupt
our entire session and then let somebody diss him the

(09:17):
next week on the very song that you played him.
I can see somebody feeling a way about that was
pushing this on no lel sort of like within the
Farrell bars. Yeah, remember that it was something, you know,
melting down his legacy and you know, all that entire shit,
which he continued on to doing family matters. But with
that said, I don't think Push is wrong per se

(09:40):
for it.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
I just think it's a little random.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
So Push is mad that Travis has a verse on
his album with Drake is dis in Pharrell.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
Yes, and he is mad that he continues to play
the middle ground because to Push his credit. He even
went on there and said he thought it was nasty
when Travis was hyping up like that, which we all
saw and we covered on this podcast. Everyone saw that clip.
We thought it was weird too, like Shaman's like what
the fuck, and Push is saying you're not even a rapper,
so why are you hyping up beef. You claim to

(10:09):
be neutral and like be on both sides, but now
you're hyping up to like that record, which is honestly
dissing somebody Push hates. So I give Push the credit
on that, Like you look Goofy doing that too, and
then you look Goofy coming in the studio playing some
shit that is gonna diss this guy the next week,
even though we know that. I think Drake did that
record like the night before, but you're not gonna step

(10:30):
in like now. It was just with Perell, like, don't
do that on my record, yeah, because we've seen.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
People they be like nah, I can't, like, come on,
that's my man. I can't put that verse on my album.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
And we can't be hypocrites.

Speaker 7 (10:41):
Because when Drake put out Push ups and was throwing
shots at at Future, I understood it. Future didn't dis
Drake on like that. But you sitting there harmonizing with
somebody that is yeah, like yeah, so yeah, I think
Drake had every right to do that. So that's where
I do feel Push on this entire thing, Like.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
Yeah, I'm not mad at p you would push your
saying I'm not mad at his stance on things. Obviously
I understand it, Like, you know, these are rappers between
Travis is not a rapper.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
He's not about the bar. Nobody down.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
He makes, you know, big songs and things like that,
has a great live performance, but you know rappers. Was
pushes talking about the rappers, the guys that really can
construct these bars and really you know, go at each other.
Like you know, I could see him feeling a way
I just don't want because I kind of feel like now,
I like the fact that.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Pushes addressing shit on wax.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
Let me put that in and first I would rather
him be addressing on wax than to be going live
the corny ship like some rappers to go live.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
And start tweeting like that stuff is fine if you're
also rapping.

Speaker 8 (11:49):
If you raping, if you putting it in the music, cool,
But if you not putting the music in, you just
addressing your issues with rappers on podcasts, on IG live
or it's like, come on, bro, get in the booth.
So I salute push you forgetting the booth and airer
shit out and you know, expressing his feelings that's what
this is about. That's what hip hop is for. To

(12:10):
get your shit off, talk your shit. If you got
something to say, say it, stand on it. So I
respect pushing for that. My thing is I don't want
push it to fall into this box to where it
looks like beef or issues are part of his rollout
for his album See. But to me that I don't
want to fall into that all because even with this
Travis shit, right, I see more people talking about him

(12:34):
dising Travis than the song or the video being as
dope as it is.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
But that's how it's always going to go, no matter
what I don't like. But there's also a large community
I feel on the timeline they're just talking about how
great Ace Trumpets is and also beat this and how
excited they are about this album, how great the rollout
has been. But to say that would push like when
was Lord Willing? When was the first Clips album?

Speaker 6 (12:59):
Two thousand and like two thousand and three, maybe.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, two thousand and two to day for the last
he used it?

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Shit, U was a jit, baby day was a little shit.
You was outside eating pickles and kool aidies. That's what
you was on.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
You really barefoot so go aheady twenty three years.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
Okay, I can definitely say for Daytona with Infrared it
had he threw a little shot at the end on
the outro. I wouldn't say it was part of the rollout,
but yes, it definitely got some attention.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Then Drake ended up replying and then we went down
that rabbit hole.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
But I wouldn't say that was the main focus of
his rollout. It's almost dry. I guess there was a
few shots here and there, but I didn't think the
rollout at all was around that. Matter of fact, that
Daytona rollout was the Kanye seven track shit, Like nobody
was even really thinking about beef for that. They were
excited for what Kanye was marketing.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
No, no, no, I'm not saying I'm saying that about that
Push has always done.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
I see a lot of people saying that, like, oh,
here goes Push again doing the cloud chase ship to
get attention. I'm like Doug since two thousand and two,
he's done this like once or twice. This isn't no,
It's not really a Push thing per se. And some
of our favorite rappers Ship fifties rollout was punching down
on every other.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
But you.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Like this is hip hop? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (14:23):
Yeah, but that's it's just this new generation that thinks
it's corny to make dising other rappers part of a
rollout when it's been that way since nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
It's listen, beef and hip hop has always been the
first hip hop record might have been a dis record.
Really go back and listen, yeah, and dissect those balls.
They might have been talking about some niggas from up
the block, so we know that. But what I'm saying
is because now my.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Thing is if if Travis responds on his next album, right,
I'm just saying, I don't want to hear it. I
don't I just don't want to hear it. I don't
want to hear Travan.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
I don't care if Saha pens the ship I think.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Travis, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
Travis is a great entertainer, has great records, great musician,
one of the best live shows that you probably will see.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Love his merch and sneakers. He's doing a lot of
great ship.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
But when it comes to just rapping, I don't want
to just hear I don't want to hear Travis going
there and trying to bar push your tea down.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I don't want to hear that. I'm not here for that.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
But if he responds in a Travis Wade in the
middle of a song somewhere where you know niggas is
marsh pitting and it's you know, pushing, pushing, fuck pushing
on some rock she I don't know, however you want
to do.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
I could see that happening.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
But then now does push you on the next project?
What is he doing? Is he is he back to
is he flaming Travis up on the next album? You
know what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. I
don't want to album.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
You might just get a response record out the gate, but.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
That's what I'm saying. I just don't want it to
fall into that. I love the video is amazing, you know.
That's what the Clips have always done. That has given
us great visuals and things like that. So this is
right on brand for the Clips. But yeah, I respect man.
If you got an issue with somebody in rap rap,
and I.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
Saw a lot of people like yo, that's that's corny
because like everyone knows, Travis doesn't even rap like that.
Since when can a rap or not rap about shit
that happened if it wasn't rappers, like it has to
be a lyrical rapper that you just explain a situation.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Eight.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
I've heard rappers talk about girls they fucked what that
girl can't rap?

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Did a whole verse about her. All she can do
is reply on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Yeah. I don't think that makes them like this is nah.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
I don't think that Pusha did this thinking it would
turn into a back and forth, Like I think he
just had something to say and he wanted to address
it and he addressed it.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Through the music, And I respect that. I always respect.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
When the rappers rap and get on the song or
get in the booth and get their shit off, Like
as long as you not just on social media and
on podcasts talking about the rappers, it's like cool, give
us the music. Do it through the music, and that's
what hip hop is for or what that's one of
the things that hip hop is for. But I respect him, man,
I'm not mad at this at all.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
Do we think we get well, I don't know, because
does Drake even like Travis Scott right now, That's what
happens when you get in the middle like that, Like
then everyone just hates you. So I was about to say,
do we get a Travis and Drake record where it's
a hit, but they are sending shots like which they've
done in the past, that it's been incredible.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
I don't think we get a Travis and Drake record again.
I don't think that happens me personally, I don't. I
don't know for sure, but I don't. I mean, after
what Travis did, I don't see I would look at
that shit goofle.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, I don't see that happening.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
So here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
I don't know much about the Kardashian gossip and I'm
not gonna pretend to. I'm actually happy and and you
know what, I could have done the research.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
But I don't want too.

Speaker 7 (17:46):
I hope all the pod fans go, you know what,
I'm glad you didn't research that one. But he is
in fact push a tea for sure, because the timeline
is gonna find that shit out off one bar because
I thought it was clever with a.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
Share a anything with Ambrose's baby mother dated chare baby father, listen,
who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 7 (18:03):
At this point, Yeah, there was a fight. People are
sharing chicks. I don't know what goes up in the
nasty ass Hills.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, they're saying that that Ae Shares boyfriend who used
to be Amber's boyfriend, got into a fight with Travis
and apparently beat Travis up.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's what it said that he lost.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
And Push it is alluding that he has this is.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
This is what Pushed remonds, is that he you know,
he's still very clever.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
I can share an A and A and E does Yeah,
you know A is Shares boyfriend. All right, Push one
score for Push, I can TV. I like that. See
all hip hop can be clever. I like that. But
I love Push.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
That this about I think Kanye a few weeks ago too,
after the Ace of Trumpets roll out, when he said,
but I can't unsee it the ship people do in
front of Pushing Tea that discuss him. Sh I feel
like Push just walks around.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
And he's just like.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Just like that especial.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
I love You know why I love it though, because
Pushes like me, we at that get off my lawn
era in our life where it's like we came up
in this ship and now we just discussed it, like yo,
look you little dirty get out of here, don't talk
to me, get away from me, like shut up. Sometimes
you gotta tell you shut up, man, like I don't

(19:21):
care that you litt and you sold them much. Shut up,
because that's what this is.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
A push, this concern Travis is lit.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
Travis is more popular and push your Tea, you know,
more successful as far as numbers than Push your Tea.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
All of that push it, don't give a fuck about
none of that. Shut up. That's also why the cloud.
You're not a rapper. Shut up. Stop acting like a rapper.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Stop trying to talk like a rapper, stop trying to
move like a rapper, because you ain't gonna rap against nobody,
and you're definitely not gonna rap against me. As far
as Push is concern, it was what I'm saying. I
can respect that in my life and my age, I
see exactly what Push it is feeling what he's going through.
It's it's like, yo, enough, everybody, shut the fuck up,

(20:03):
and I just.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
We need to figure out what that like secret email
Push has that everyone sends it to him, because I
know for a fact Push not walking around Calabasis or
in the studio with those type of guys holding his
phone up or like recording shit.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Nah.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
But if you see somebody you know has done some
little slick shit, a little nigga and he over there
getting punched on and we had an event, I might
pull my phone on like you.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Look at this little look running, look at him, check
him out.

Speaker 8 (20:27):
But simply half but like push it, I ain't gonna
put it out because that's like, that's nasty.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
You don't want to put the young boy getting beat up.
You wanna put that out there.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
But I got it in my phone, like we always
say the rappers have just notes full of file.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Yeah, it's like all right, But.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
I mean even think like with the uh Drake and
Blackface thing, like Push always does come with information that
I know he wasn't really seeking. What is it about
Push that everyone just comes in like you know what
I can tell you right now, Like I need to
know what those conversations were, Like, I don't.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Know if people are coming to him telling him shit it.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
I just think that you know, he's at the same
this A lot of these guys are at the same events,
and sometimes shit happens at these events. You know, people
kind of turn the blind eye, don't speak about it.
But he just letting you know that I was there,
I saw it, I got the video.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I didn't forget.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah, because that's I guess that's not even like a
rapper or celebrity thing, because there I have a few
videos in my phone that I would just you know,
I'm waiting for somebody to say something type of thing
of people attempting to fight. Yeah, I would never release it,
just you know, on offense, but it's there. I got
no issue with the person. But yeah, you know, it's

(21:36):
just in case.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
Listen, man, we all got that one PI sneakers in
our cloud. Do you know we're not gonna never wear them? Oh,
we're not gonna get rid of them. Yeah, one day
I might, like, you know, I'm throwing these on the night.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Man.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
It just just just you know, keep them right there
in the back of the closet.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Okay, but do you think that and I'm not saying
it's particularly about Push your tea, but maybe just about
the human competitive brain. You think if Push didn't already
have the information or see you know, Travis allegedly cry
in front of them or lose a fight and have
the footage, is he jumping out there off something that

(22:12):
some people would deem minuscule, Like is it that big
a deal there? They're rappers. No one is friends and
family here. Why is Travis o Drake anything or forarrail anything?
Like I get that you think having that information, you're like, well,
now I have a reason the same way, like just
the way Drake said Virginia Williams. Even though that was
like the smallest part of Duppy, it was like, all right,

(22:35):
well green light. Now now that you said that one thing, now.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
We can go there.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Do we think that is probably part of it as well?

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah? I think that's something. It's put really that mad
at Travis.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
No, it's really it really is a like when you
have something on somebody you just like I know you
ain't laughing, like it gives like that.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Like let's keep it cute.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
It's it's not keep it cute. It's not beef.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
It's just like, yo, like you be moving funny and
I don't like it, like it, Yeah, you be doing
little things and it's just like, yo, chill out, bro,
because you not you not like that.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
You're not you know what I'm saying. It's like, Yo,
just sit down and relax.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
Yeah you lit, you lit. But like don't get it
twisted though. That don't mean nothing to me me at all. Yeah,
it's that type of shit like, yeah, everyone at.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
The rodeo, good for you, but that's a little nothing
to me.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
You're doing dope shit and all that, but you're also
doing sucker shit. Yeah, it's what I think this is,
this sentiment coming from Push is Travis is doing a
lot of dope shit, for sure, but Push it just
seen him do sucker shit and he's just addressing that
part of it.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Like, Yo, that's some sucker shit you did. And I
ain't like it.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
I'm overreaching on this one. But just the production nerd
in me I liked was a mounser Push. It was
malice no more neptune so peus saturn. I know that's
not a slight, it's a hard bar by the way.
I was just like, damn.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I hope Chad doesn't get offended by that.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, we don't never talk about Chad enough, mancu.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
Chad never want to talk about himself, which is fine,
Like he just wants to make me shout out to.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Chad Man wherever you ad with legend, whatever you're.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
Doing, man, And I mean the whole click of any
idea wasn't just you know, Forrell and Chad, but the
neptunes that I don't know that that made me sad.
I don't think Malice was slighting Chad whatsoever. Yeah, it
just made me a little sad, that's all. That's who
I would love to talk to Malice, Chad oh.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Man chould not talking nobody.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
I'm just saying, I just think that it'd be a
cool converse.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Be an amazing conversation. That'd be a four hour conversation.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Man, Like I respect producers and people like that that
like solidified legend, but you'll never hear from them like
Pharrell be the face like I'll be over here and
enjoy my life.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Like yeah, So I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
But again, two for two, I saw Jim Jones was
on a pod talking, which, by the way, I think
is fine because Jim went right out to the middle
Harlem two hours after that that LV stream is it
got rapping, So yeah, Jimmy, it's fine if you want
skinny talk about it. I completely disagree with him about
the Ace of Trumpet Ship. I think that record is incredible,

(25:00):
But if I hated Push your Tea, I would say
it sucks too, so I.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
Feel listen, man, listen, A trumpet is cool, great, great, great,
great music, But yellow diminds look like peep is one
of the worst bars. Like I like the song too,
but we just got to keep it a stack. Yellow
yellow diamonds look.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Like peepee into a great almost listen.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
Almost lost me after that ball, but they brought it back, Yes,
brought it back, but that that ball.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Is surrounded by everything great after. So yeah, but it's
like I didn't.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
It's like when you go to a restaurant and you
eat something like that shit trash, but then they bring
all this shit.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
Like all right, dom is good. You know what I'm saying,
am is cool? To wait?

Speaker 8 (25:43):
It was dope, you know what I'm saying. It's like
I could go back there, Like you know what I'm saying,
I could go back.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
But every rapper I've loved his head a bar like that.
So I'm just saying that is one of them. Yeah,
that's all. Every rapper has a ball. You're like, nah,
I ain't really if I was in that session out of.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Like, are you sure you want to go with that one?
Like we can't come up with something else. Yellow diamonds
look like pep is that one for?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (26:05):
But hear me out? Did they look like pep? If
your peep looks like yellow diamonds? You need the hydrate,
you know, you need the you need more like.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
And if it's if it's glimmering you you need to.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
You said, what Ice Spice, Ice Spice said.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yell yellow dimonds like pep?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
That would be something that is an Ice spicepy you're
in any track infection.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Look how fast? Look how fast you figured it out.
I could respect that coming from Ice Spice, you know.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Because I don't respect it. No, No, I'll respect.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
It because I don't expect Ice Spice to ball me down.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
Like, so it's like, okay, but if push is playing
on some Ice Spice it, then I get that too.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Okay, that's just a little call back to what Ice said. Okay,
I get it.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
I don't think he was doing that, and I actually
be more upset and push your te You want to
call back to Ice Spice than him just saying yellow
diamondsok Like peepy, No.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
You want to give Spice some love, man, shout out
the Ice Spice the Bronx.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Legend what's that little thing that you can check the dimon.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
And pushes a whole They don't talk about pushing the
Bronx even though he don't.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah, he's for the Bronx, pushes from the Bronx. From
the Bronx. He ain't gonna say it.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
I'm gonna say, push your tears from the Bronx.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
If he was what me saying he was from the Bronx,
if he was asked, she was like a Ginian nigga because.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
He not is he from the Bronx.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
No, I'm saying he from the Bronx because he's from
the Bronx. What you want me to do? There's been
rabbits in the Bronx, and I say, Yo, you.

Speaker 8 (27:27):
Asked, but he's from the Bronx. He gonna claim v
E cool, but he's from the Bronx. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
Is there more to the PP line that we don't know?
Maybe I was saying someone's wearing fake yellow diamonds, like
there's more.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
Babe, Well we know that these rappers are wearing fake jewelry.
That's not even I don't even think that that's a
secret anymore like some of them. Let you know, Yeah,
I went to the club that night, I had my
fake shit on the real ship was in the crib
in case niggas tried me that night.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
You can have this fake ship, niggasyboy, I'm Rachel.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
So yeah, they're gonna assume as chose notorious for that.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
O Cho Sinko.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
He let you know this shit fake I got. I
got real shit in the house though, but the shit
to my end bullshit.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
And Ocho will take a middle economy seat. Yeah to
Miami from ray J.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
When ray J was on the Breakfast Club, he had
them big rocks and there they was fake, he said,
because he kept losing his real ones in the hotels.
He would just have him on the dress and leave
and be like, fuck, I left my ard. He got
tired of doing that. So now I'm at the Breakfast
Club with fake damonds in my hands.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
It happens. It is what it is. So yes, rappers
are definitely win fake Jordy. Before we get off this.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
It was nice to see that, you know, rappers looking
out for each other. Way pushed it with for El
ex Ceter Dave Blunts. At least thank God came to
Kanye's rescue because we didn't know it was looking crazy
for Kanye, so Dave showed up.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
Dave blunts Man shout out to Dave blunts Man.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Push it to your forty eight dissing a nigga who
did everything for you. Tell Daddy you're sorry. We're not
listening to that Mark ass album. You fucking suck. We
are not amused.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
All right, Dave? You tripping? I fucked with Dave. That's
my nigga. But come on, Dave, you're tripping. Man.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
He did He hung out with Kanye for five minutes,
did one Nazi song, and now all of.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
A sudden, he's riding like this.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
No, Dave, push it, and Dave, don't be surprised if
Kanye does you the same way he did. Push your T,
because push your T is replying. Push your T did
not just say something bad about Kanye. He held Kanye
down when no one else would spoke on his behalf,
when no one else would push this woman that all
Kanye did would say, suck my dick In return.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Ship, push it. Damn.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
That cursed me out when I was asking you about
why he riding for ya so hard, Like nigga, why
are you riding for that?

Speaker 6 (29:37):
That's because that's what I do. My I fan.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Like me.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
Everybody, well, yeah once Nigga's fan because I'm not going
We're not yell at it.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I'm definitely not yellow dry. Yeah you got it, but
I don't.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
That's one thing I'll never understand is if you see
someone be a shitty person to everyone in their life,
what makes you think you're exempt?

Speaker 6 (29:58):
What makes you there your time?

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Man?

Speaker 6 (30:00):
That's wrong. I didn't go to therapy for it. So
please you triggering me right now.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Y'all gotta y'all gotta eat that ship because you don't
sit there like damn Yo, they didn't them fucked up,
but yo, this is my dog.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Nah you next hoe?

Speaker 8 (30:12):
Yeah right, listen, you baby didn't when you right? You right,
You're absolutely correct. I can't argue with you on that.
I just think that sometimes, you know, you you have
people that you you know, you're friends with, and you know,
friends become family if you're friends long enough and that
type of thing, and they make history together, do a
lot of great things together, and you may know that
they did some wax shit somewhere, but you you get

(30:34):
this thing where it's like, nah, they wouldn't do that
to me, though it's It's just it's a it's a
human fault that I think a lot of us A
people when you start feeling like, nah, they.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Wouldn't do that to me though, like nah, he would
try to.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Even in relationships, you can know your boyfriend did some
wow ship to his baby moms. Didn't stop you from
getting a relationship with him because you're thinking like he wouldn't,
he wouldn't pull as you with me, like nigga don't.
But then when he pull it with you, you can't sit
and be like so surprised, Like that's who he is,
that's what he does, a.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
Serial cher, like he was dealing with bum bitches, and
then you just go keep fucking bum bitches, keep.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Fucking bum always tell it.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
When she was like you want to try to show me,
I'm like, okay, miss superhero pussy, I don't know why
you think you exempt Beyonce got cheated on Boo.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
I don't know why. We don't know.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Entertainment is entertainment. I'm just saying, we don't know, we
don't know what happened. Sometimes it's not a metaphor so
I heard. Sometimes we just like lemonade, I love.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Four forty four lemonade as well. Yeah, I'm just saying
was it art, like we don't know, Like, see y'all
don't even do that was just a dive. He was
talking from the perspective of this old artist. Yeah, from
the eighteenth century was in the art. That was his perspective.
Speaking of the sundow, Hope don't even like have a
digital lever do that? Ho ho, Hope wouldn't do that.

(31:52):
Hove won't do that. So hopefully you want to go
through that, oh man, like I told you so crack Yeah, no, no,
Hope did that, so hopefully you won't have to go
through that. See, niggas ain't get that, boss, So you
even want how to go through that?

Speaker 7 (32:07):
You being starving a teenager and like, nah, Hope they
already Yeah, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
I'm not gonna do this shit like flush this down
the toilet. No the fuck you ain't. That's me at
rehab centers. I heard that. That's a poster walk connect
to the twelve steps. What's the recovery prayer?

Speaker 7 (32:23):
Accept the things I cannot change, And right under that
is Hope did this?

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Why are you doing this? Why you did this? Or
you wouldn't have to be here. Why are you here exactly?

Speaker 7 (32:32):
Well, Dave Blunts, I know you're a very popular artist. Now,
I hope you want to get old, and that's nothing
to do with your weight. But I never understood why
younger artists call other artists old as a disc like
that's not the point.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Do y'all know y'all not want to be older artists
at some point?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (32:46):
I don't think people understand it's the objective is to
get old, Yeah, Like you don't want to die young,
like you don't want to like you don't want to
be like, oh I'm twenty five.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Fuck it is over. That's it.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Don't you want the older artists to push the genre
they get older.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I think his point, I mean, granted he's wrong, but
I think his point was you too old to be
dising people, or you too old to be.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
Ain't no such thing as being too old to this nobody.
You open your grandmother house right now, she's still gonna
start talking.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Shit to you.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yo, more to anybody.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Sometimes you just need that. Now.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
If push your tea put on a fucking mask and
was riding around Calabasis with a gun and filming it
on his fucking.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Phone, I'd be like, push, you are way too old
for this shit.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
If he's outside actively trying to get into physical confrontations,
then it's like, come on, push you to it.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
But he's just rapping. This is what raps.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
I mean the bass talking about real things that happened.
I didn't like what you did, Travis. I'm letting you
know because I don't. We don't speak on the phone.
This is my way of letting you know you did
some sucking shit.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
I don't fuck with that.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
And Dave Blundz is Kanye was too old for his
entire Drink Champs.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Episode, Odor like that that was age appropriate.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I mean this in your whole label for no reason.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Can y'all go on Drink Champs and get drunk in
this whole bunch of people. I think it'd be great
for our brand. Well, you don't drink get high.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Why would that be great for our brand?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
No, I think it'd beterrible. I think it'd be fun, fun.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
We got fun.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
But I don't want to just get high and watch
Rory get drunk and just start talking about people, because
the next day I'm would be like, that is the
worst ship we've ever That was the worst decision we
ever made.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
And what you mean by everybody? Like just any like.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Just this and whoever?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
You got plenty of people on your rolodex of this niggas,
you know who you wanted this just going there like.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Any and everybody?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh yeah, whoever, I'll go with you.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
I can with you.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I love this niggas.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Like I'm really safe, you know, like real life does
exist outside.

Speaker 8 (34:33):
I just don't have nobody I can think about that
I would really want to this like on camera, like
I don't know, I don't really care about none of
these people enough to do that to get like a response,
and really like I really I was talking to people,
yes something with that. I was like, I really just
don't like I'd be trying to be like your wife.

(34:54):
That's corny like that. I'm like, yeah, that's come with
ah man, that's I can't do that.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
And usually like off Mike behind the scenes and here,
I'll be pissed about somebody by the time I get
in the car and I get even close to the Hochitel, I'm.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Like over that shit.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah, I'm cool.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
That's what I'm saying, Like you just can't fall victim
to the moment. Like, that's something I learned in real time,
was like, don't fall victim to the moment, Like you're
gonna look back and be like, damn, why I do that?
And so I try not to bet again. Human We're
gonna have our our slips in our falls. But you know,
I thought about it. I'm like, Yo, there's a lot
of niggas be online talking real peace. Put me onto

(35:32):
somebody that was talking a little spicy in the last
couple of weeks online. He was like, Yo, this dude
always got your name, And I'm like.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Yeah, I kind of peep that too, Pete.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
So you know when somebody else peep with you, Peepe,
we're violated.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
We should.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
I'm like, nah, bro, I can't, Like I can't do that.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
Like let these let them talk, let them have I
think that's what's what some of this is for, Like
we're having platforms in podcasts and things like that. I
think it's you know, sometimes you throw a little shots
out there. You'd say something to somebody. I say things
I know people don't like.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Cool. So if they respond to things I don't like with.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
Disrespect or as long as it's not nothing too crazy,
I gotta wear that because it's like, damn, they responded
to something I said.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (36:12):
So it's like, okay again, trying to get more intelligent emotionally,
like all right, what did I do for him to
say that about me?

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (36:19):
I said this. I could see how he didn't like that.
All Right, cool, I gotta wear that. But as long
as it don't get too crazy and you start really
talking like spicy, you know, like I'm cool, man, get
your shit off, man, I'm not hit off.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Part of being in this like having this job, I've
realized and becoming a personality, I've realized when people start
shooting just like to make a moment and it's like,
oh you like will mar Be like, oh you want
to go viral. That's like when I say something to
moll and mar Be like, oh.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
You're trying to go viral.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Okay, let's engage in this conversation like I see shit
like now like, oh, you want like a moment from this,
Like but see me, I'm quick to be I'm not like, yo,
you want a moment, I'm not giving you a moment,
Like we're not we're not doing that.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Yeah, but I mean it happens. So you're gonna slip.
You're gonna slip like it's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Everyone's human. Yeah, I'm gonna have a bad day and
you start, I'm like, nah, I wouldn't do that, y'all
know that should y'all be wanting to do.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I've responded to somebody who was beneath me and be like,
why the fun did you do that? You just gave
this person so much more attention than they would have
ever got.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
It's just like, yo, it just it happens, fucking man.
Let people get this.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, but I ain't never regretted us suck my dick
though every time I've said that.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Came right from her.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, I ain't never woke up from that third. I
shouldn't have told them to suck that. I meant it
when I said that.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I feel that.

Speaker 8 (37:31):
I feel like, yo, damn, that was crazy. I went
off a little bit, but nah, real talk like my
own self. That came from a place of truth. You
deserve that.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
Yeah, absolutely that, and I totally understand that part of it. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Before we pivot, I feel like this this episode will
get much funnier now when we add a woman into
the mix dams.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
You're a woman, but you know nah, ne're a coach.
Let me ask you something. Do you get offended?

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Because I've seen like girls on the well, women on
the timeline talking about this. Do you get offended when
men say females like does that bother you?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Does bother me?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
But I'm like, it's kind of like a it's kind
of like males on a chalkboard, but it doesn't bother me.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Why is it nails on the truck board though?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Because because female just me. It's just it's very it
can be.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
It's very demeaning, and I think men say a lot
of demeaning things that they're not aware, Like, I don't
think they mean to be demeaning. It's just kind of
the way that society raises y'all the same way that
I tell you all. The way y'all talk about sex
is way too violent. It's just kind of like female community.
That could be a female fish, a female dog, it
could be a female anything.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Just say woman.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I don't understand why it's so hard to just say women,
because y'all don't be out here saying males. These males
getting on my nerves, y'all say niggas or y'all say men.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
So with the women say bitches.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
Y'all still do, yeah, but generous.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
You never say you saying you ain't never say bitches.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
No bitches is like my middle name. Of course I
say bitches.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Yeah, I say bitches, but I'm just saying in a
real conversation, I don't be like your bitches, be acting
like you.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
I'm not that guy either though.

Speaker 8 (39:08):
No, I'm not that No, yeah, definitely, because it's bitches
out here. We know the difference between women and bitches
like here on the time.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
Yeah, don't. I don't males or bitches. Yeah, I don't
say males.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Y'all say men in the same way it's easy for
you to say men, just say women because the females
is a little degrading. But again, I don't make a
big deal out of it, even when y'all say it,
because y'all do.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Mall says it once in a while.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Worry doesn't say it, really say it, but it's like bitches,
no female females, but I don't. Yeah, it's not that
it's not that big of a deal, but it's just
something to be aware of.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
That's all.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
I understand that Okay, I just realized I've been to
La more time than I've been to Staten Island in
my life.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yo, you have it a random thought day. I love
it. It's random thought day.

Speaker 8 (39:50):
I just thought about it because I don't know why
Staten Island just popped them in my head.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
You know what's funny, I'm probably probably nine percent of
New Yorkers that are not from Staten Island probably have
that exact step.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
I've been to California ten times more than I've been
to Staten Island in my life. And Staten Island is
twenty minutes from here.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
But you don't take a ferry to La.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
It's easy.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
He took a faerry.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Yeah, what's funny is he took a fairy. What's funny
from where you've lived in New York JFK. To get
to the airport to get to California is further than
going to Staten Island. It's harder to get Toland.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
That's the fact. I think I've been to Staten Island
twice my entire life. Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Obviously?

Speaker 6 (40:35):
No, it was cool. It was cool.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
I went once. It was like my homeboy his people.
I think it was having to cookout or something, and
then we met some girls. You know, have to cook
I go. And then we went back a couple of
weeks later to hang out with the girls and shit.
And that was the last time we went.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Where does women black?

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yeah, there's black people instead.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
No, I know, I was just asking him.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
You know, there was black girls, and I remember going.
And then when we came back to the second time
we went. When we was coming back, I remember thinking
to myself, I am never coming back to stat.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Now and you never did.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Never.

Speaker 8 (41:06):
We was on the ferry in the car because you
could drive the car on the ferry.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
And like just stay in the car if you want.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
What year was this, nineteen seventy three, This.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
Was like nine, No, this is like two thousand, two thousand. Yeah, yes,
they switched it. When did they switch it? What where
you had to get out the car? Their cars don't
go on the Stannun the ferry we took up.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
We're saying what they at one point? But I thought
that was like in the seventies.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Nah, bro, I'm almost positive we put when when they
built the averizonal Bridge, I thought they.

Speaker 8 (41:33):
Stopped that shit. Wow, yes, like that was way before that. Okay, Yeah,
we drove the car on the ferry, stayed in the car.
It was like a little not even a ten minute
ride or something like that.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
It's twenty thirty.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Yeah, and I remember sitting in the car thinking I
am never doing this again, like this is like what
are we doing?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Right?

Speaker 7 (41:50):
But it's also like the best non tourist ride. Do
you go buy a statue of liberty? I'm you guys
know what this pot. I've been an advocate of stat
Now it gets too much eighte. I think it's a
wonderful place. No I do.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
I'm not saying I hate it. I just realized, like yo,
I had.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
I remember saying to myself, I'm never going to statn
Onloga and I've never been back. And that was twenty
five years ago. Yeah, and I've only been twice. Like
just a random thought. I'm sorry we went all track,
my Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I love when you go off track. Part of me.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
My mind just went there. Sorry, Josh, my back.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Well, we can take a quick break, do a little reset.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
Mals about to get his joke Bagno can't wait, So
stay tuned for the rest of this podcast. Man Walking
to a Jewish Man yeah, who owned the bar? Well,
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Speaker 6 (43:04):
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Speaker 8 (43:12):
All right, Rory, We are back, and we are joined
by a friend that we met in La. We just
saw in La a couple weeks ago, Yes, and we
discussed having her come by whenever she was in New York.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
And she's in New York a week later. Yeah. Today
we are joined by Joy Taylor. Joy, how are you feeling?

Speaker 3 (43:29):
I'm great? Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
You'll see, I'm not gonna going to do the formal
thing like we ain't been talking for like thirty minutes
off campus, kicking it.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
So it's okay.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
This was the only small talk that like we actually
saw through after the beaty media where everyone else like
yeah I saw link, yeah, all this and that, Yeah,
never gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
This is the only one that we followed through. But
I feel like joy has been for a while.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
I think I think we've been alluding to doing something
on camera, like getting up and having a conversation. I
just think that it ever had the opportunity to happen.
So LA kind of like the introduction you're in New
York Fanatics, is this weekend?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yep, the universe aligned.

Speaker 8 (44:02):
There you go, Universal Joys here to join us in
the marriages on the couch with us to baby deep.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Yes, now you know how deep these couches are. And
I have to swing my feet sometimes.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I know my feet are swinging to It's fine, fine,
I found the angle.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
Yeah, but podcast too personal? Yes, available, how's a how's
the audio podcast world been?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's it's you know, it's funny being in the sports
side of things and then moving into like culture relationships.
You're not to have a personality entertainment news. No, it's
not so much personality. I think you know, fundamentally, when
you talk about sports, if you give your opinion about sports.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
No one thinks you're giving.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Advice, right, Like, if I'm like, damn, Feelers need to
run the ball more, nobody thinks I'm saying Mike Tomlin
needs to talk to his offensive coordinator and fix that.
Like whatever, We're just saying things that mean really nothing
because we are not in those rooms.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
But when you say something like.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I think men that lead with religion are a red flag,
it's like you are telling people don't date religious. Like
that's not what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, I
fucking do. Whatever you do is your business. And it's
such an interesting like you have to almost start by saying,
I'm not telling you how to live your life. This

(45:26):
is my opinion based off of my experiences, which I thought.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
Was understood, that was common sense.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, I mean common sense is not common, but in
sports it's very much understood. Yeah, And working in the
sports space for almost twenty years, you get like that's
the rhythm. I'm not even thinking about saying, like, hey,
Mike Tomlin, I don't want you to think that I'm
giving you advice.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I don't have to say that.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
But in the other side, in the entertainment relationship, you
know new side.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
You have to say that, Yeah, you have to make wild.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
What would be more of a red flag on a
first date? Leading with your opinion of Mike Tomlin? Or
can I talk to you about Jesus?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Can I talk to you about Jesus?

Speaker 6 (46:04):
And you got to say that which said, now can
I talk you our Lord and Savior?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I mean, my eyes is not hitting the sea like
you gotta you gotta get that out when we've already
ordered something, because some.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Red wine the blood of Christ. You know tomorrow you
come in.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Exactly some some you know, some wine. Or before we
start talking about can I talk to you about Jesus?

Speaker 6 (46:30):
Is crazy?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:32):
No, daily religious like a religious man, not not a
heard the way I speak that religious men wouldn't speak
to me.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
God entirely speaks to me.

Speaker 7 (46:41):
Religious men are similar to the women that go after
home men that they think they can fix them. I
feel like religious men go after women that curse because
they think that they can bring you.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
To the Lord.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
No, I think they know a lost cause when they
see one. No, they avoid me like the play. Religious
men do not avoid me. Really, I think it's really
crazy because I don't know what I'm giving off, Deaconess
of the church, Well.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
What is it? So you say, you say religious men
like you or they approached.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
So I shouldn't say religous men.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I actually don't mind someone who has religion, right, I
don't want to be preached to, okay, and I'm.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
I don't want it pushed on to you.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, well, I mean I grew up in a Baptist church,
so I went to church, you know, four or five
days a week every week for like sixteen years. So
you ain't hit me with nothing new, nothing original. And
I know real Christians, like people that actually live their

(47:38):
lives that way. They're like kind and generous and understanding
and non judgmental, not republican, like knowing the real thing
makes everything else look so inauthentic to me. And maybe
I'm being judgy because I've had some bad experiences, but
I just don't It's it's not like religion, like if
you believe in God, like cool, I believe in God too.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I think you should have a spiritual center.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I think you should be in touch with that, especially
moving through the world, like it's important.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
It's dark out here.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
But all these rules and shit I.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
Know the religious men you're talking about, not guys that
go to church and have a relationship with God. Like
you know the pastor that preaches about not being gay,
but he was gay the whole time. Adultry, he's fucking
the woman in the pulpit, he's driving a bends with
back tie money.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Like yeah, like, stop preaching me on everything. You're worse
than me.

Speaker 8 (48:31):
When Rory was talking about sometimes when you sit down
with people and you speak to them, and when they
answer certain questions and they lead with like their faith
in God and stuff, it makes it's like, okay, we
the rest of this conversation. We have to kind of
tell back immediately, because if you know us, we find
human anything. But when people lead with a religious answer,

(48:54):
it's like they're not gonna laugh, and shit, we want
to laugh.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
They mean this.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
And that could kind of make it a little awkward,
Like Okay, I believe in God too, I pray and
things like that.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
What do you I'm not thinking like you on it.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
I'm not saying that God gave it, brought this light
in here today and made the set in that way.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
I'm not that guy. He gave somebody the ability to
wake up and come in here and build the set
and do that gave Thomas Edison the ability to steal
it from somebody else. Yes, we got that part, but
I'm just not going to walk in the room like
God gave us. It's like everybody's like, okay, yeah, even.

Speaker 7 (49:29):
If you think that that's Fine's when you walk in
and say it, you're it's like a used car stand
like what are you trying to sell me right now?

Speaker 6 (49:34):
What's up? Man? Like what you really got going on?

Speaker 8 (49:36):
Because I feel like sometimes that could be a wall
for like what somebody is really going through, what they're
really feeling.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
It's like when you like they're like, thank God for
this parking spot.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Yeah, but I do say that when I get one
right out from I.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Thank God, But you're not literally like God prepared this
parking spot for me and this blessing today because so
I didn't get the parking spot because you got there
two seconds earlier, So I don't get the blessing.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
They do that in sports a lot, like I left
from players to that, what do you feel like like
when when when the team wins, like when Halliburton black you,
I just want to thank God, you know, so God
wasn't with Shay last night.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Part of the journeys like that Satan Saint Haliburton. So
that's I don't know what he thinking.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
Oh yes, that's how all New York is after what
he did. He did, he's the devil. He has the
three sixers on his own.

Speaker 7 (50:26):
So what's worse the guy that enters the room on
religion or the guy that gets caught doing some nasty
ship and then immediately has to bring God into this situation.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
On his reply, Tyler per did he Tyler's crazy? Love Tyler?
We all love.

Speaker 8 (50:44):
Tyler is a fucking icon and everything to the word
great all respectors.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
I understand what he's doing in Atlanta. I'm just saying, compound,
it's incredible.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
You have these allegations and then the next time we
hear from you, you're on aug live in a Negro
spiritual or whatever he was saying, a gospel. That's what
I'm talking about, Like, cool, we got it.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
We know that. You know what I'm saying. You're religious
and not saying you're guilty. You believe that you know God.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
Is gonna protect you through this, what you're about to
go through. I'm all for that. I'm just saying when
you go on IG Live and your first response is
to recite a gospel song and that's it, And.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Just in the live, it's like, yeah, whatever they say
you did, you did that. Shit.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
People one would feel like that, like that you think
that would be in his screenplay, that exact scene, because
that's how I feel it would go.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
His life is a screenplay. And that's the thing too
that people don't talk about. I think that people that
are so gifted at acting, writing and things like that,
when do we know when they're being their two selves.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
Or when they or we never know?

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Besides to wake up and he has this movie in
his head and all day he's gonna live this movie.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
You wouldn't know that.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I mean most people don't.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
But with Tyler, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
I don't want on Tyler's ability because he is that
legend is on right. But like when Denzel was in
Training day, I saw that crooked cop. I knew it
was Denzel, but I saw that cop. When I see Medea,
I just see Tyler Perry And.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Now you bugging the character.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
Is a whole.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
You can tell me that was Tyler Perry's guys, and
I would believe that.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
Yeah, Like if Tyler Perry and Medea walked out at
the same con, I would be like, yo.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
That had to be because did you feel that way
with Martin Lawrence and Big Mama?

Speaker 3 (52:32):
That was I'm just.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
I don't know where mar was taking us with Big Mama.
What about Norbit? Norbit? I could see that too, I
could see that being a real person.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, so much that goes into like a great performance.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
That's why I think plays and musicals like that's that's
some of the purest form of acting in performances because
you don't have like the editing and the lighting and
the special effects like bring all of that together, Like
you're just on a stage taking you taking a whole
audience somewhere. Like that's wild to me. I could never
have a gift like that, I say all the time.

(53:08):
I could never be able to sing. I'd be a
terrible person. I'm borderline right now, So there's no way a.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
Terrible person right now.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I don't know it's terrible. I don't.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
I don't get terrible from now looking back at management
terrible now. I don't get that. I don't.

Speaker 8 (53:24):
I don't feel like you are a terrible person. I
feel like you can be a very cold person.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Though facts that's terrible management, agreed, But I feel like
you can be cold.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
I feel like you go from being like the sweetest
friend and then like you and a girl fall out
with each other y'all to speak them, and like you
could literally walk right past and never even make eye
contact with that person.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I am. I'm a I'm a soft girl for sure,
but I mean the world doesn't give us a lot
of spaces to be soft, so I can't really move
around the world and be successful as a soft woman,
but particularly a black woman. But yeah, I don't like.
I don't like the masculine being brought out of me.

(54:05):
I was just having this conversation yesterday. I was like,
a man has one time to make me feel like
I got to bring the kne course so out and
it's a wrap?

Speaker 1 (54:13):
What does that?

Speaker 6 (54:13):
What does that mean? Or you have to bring the
can like just like.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Let list like if you're gonna be around me, like
whether you're a friends in business relationship, like don't put
me in a space where I feel unsafe. Okay, you
know intentionally sometimes people do that unintentionally, but if you
do it intentionally, like now I now we gotta we
gotta go. I'm not gonna lose. So that's unfortunate for you.
That was a choice.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
What's the what's the uh unsafe space for joy? What
does that look like?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I think, well, I have a lot of traumas, so
I would definitely like if you're like gaslighting me, like
you're trying to convince me that something that I didn't
do I did, or I did do I didn't do,
or you're trying to manipulate me in any way. I
think for me, like I like consistency with people. So

(55:03):
when people are inconsistent and it's very obvious that they're
intentionally being inconsistent, it's not because like oh, you know,
I got busy and I forgot about this or something like.
It's really like a strategic way of moving that just
puts me in a space where I feel like I
have to be on the defense on the light end,
Like obviously there's things people can do that immediately make
you feel unsafe. Yeah, but it's really just more the

(55:24):
subtleties the what's the word I'm looking for? The microaggressions.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Thank you, thank you very much for that.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, the microaggressions that type of stuff just like that
puts you on alert and then you can see things
in people, And yeah, I don't you.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Don't have a whole lot of chances.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I don't think people should have give people that many
chances to be disrespectful or to make people feel unsafe,
because it's not hard to be authentic and respectful. Respect
really is. Like that's the thing I was thinking about
the other.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
Day, Like it takes more energy to be disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
It does, it does, and we're losing recipes. Like remember
when people used to say, like my word is all
I got. That used to be a thing, like if
your word was whack, you couldn't move around, Like people
would not let you in places, people would not fuck
with you, they would not recommend you for anything, they
wouldn't work with you. Like now it's like you could
be whatever, you could have whatever kind of character, not

(56:18):
like alleged character, like legitimately, your word doesn't mean shit.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Quote is a scarface poster.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
Now that's all it is.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yeah, it's all it is.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Like you got your word and your balls, and people
don't have balls anyway, so now there's no word and
no balls.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
The Republicans are trying to change that.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Very attached to the balls.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
Well, I mean I feel like before when that was
that way to get into certain spaces, those people were
controlling it, they did keep their word or also at balls.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Now it's a free for all.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
So the rooms that people are trying to get in,
everyone there is already a manipulative lyar So to get
into the room is pretty fucking.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
Easy at that place.

Speaker 7 (56:52):
So I hear you, does that bring the terrible person
out of you? Is that why you're saying you feel
like you're terrible?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
You're not a terrible person. I'm actually like a pretty
decent person considering. But I do think that moving through
the world, it's getting harder and harder to like be good. Yeah,
like what you said, Like it's it's like the higher
you go up, the more the darker it gets. And
it's like you have to make you make choices, Like

(57:17):
you know, do you what is it you die a hero,
live long enough to become a villain.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Yeah, and you spend enough time like trying to be
a good person, and you realize there's no reward for
being a good person.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
You are not rewarded at all.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
People will not treat you better, people will not spare you,
Like people will not be loyal to you just because
you are a good person.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
That's why you should be a good person for yourself.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
For yourself, Yeah, I mean or separating because I feel
like even with business or every industry in general, you
kind of can only meet manipulation with like manipulation. If
someone is a shitty person and you're negotiating with them
or working with them for them, you can't be a
good person and it's going to work out, Like you
have to meet them at that same exact place to
even get through this. Yeah, can't just come in with
a smile and they'll be like, oh, he's good.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I think that's why we have an orange for a president.

Speaker 7 (58:03):
M M.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
I would I would love to be on that debate.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
Oh my god, with Trump? What do you want to
debate him?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
He's going to get apparently, let's just exchange insults for
an hour. Oh, like, no facts, nothing, just insult like
blow for blow youth.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Hitmy with one. I'm gonna shoot one.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
You want to insult the president?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Oh my god, the most insulting president about this, Like
nobody cooks him properly.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
He's so cookable.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
He is very cookable people that have never cooked before.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
He seems like.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
He's pretty He's pretty cookable for sure. For instance, I.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Mean like for you to insult him, like.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I would start, but I would start from the top
highest hair on his head to the bottom of his feet,
like it would be a fry.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
The president is hilarious. It is my dream, Like, set
this up, please.

Speaker 8 (58:59):
I just don't know, man, I think that we don't
give trouble like he's I just believe that when you're
from certain cities, like when you're from a New York City,
you grow up at some point with kids and people
in your neighborhood talking shit to you. Yes, I just
think he might be a little He might have that
too in his talk, like he has.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
A little bit of it that you see. But he's
doing it to people that have never been in an
environment like that. That's why he looks so funny. I've
come on here too and said, Trump, that was hilarious
what he said there. But he's going against people that
have no response because they've never been in something.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
They have feelings. I don't have those like that's oh
my god, you don't do that. You happy to think
about it? No, No, no, like there's a switch, like
I can turn them off, especially it's psychotic.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
That's not psychotics off.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
You know, there's a lot of people that can.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
She just explained to you why she's I believe she's
nationally intelligent.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
I believe you can control your emotions. That I believe in.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
But I don't believe that you can just completely like
turn off your emotions. If somebody's sitting across from you
and having a conversation and you just don't like this person, Like,
I think that that is an emotion, being like, doing
that is an emotion.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
There's nothing Trump could say to me to hurt my feelings.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Okay, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Someone that you have such a little respect for, it
wouldn't matter what they said, they would not hurt your feelings.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Okay, think of that person.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Now imagine they're across.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
From you and they're insulting you, and you get to
cook them back with whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Okay, you're gonna cook.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
Yeah, but men, that should go left quick though. With
a woman.

Speaker 8 (01:00:40):
With a woman, it's like, okay, we can sit here
do it, and then I really can't because I feel
whack if I'm doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
With a woman.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
You think Trump would feel whack no, because he's insulted women.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
I don't think he has that in him at all.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
But I think that he's also good at like he'll
say things and then but it's kind of like almost
common sense.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
Though, it's like why would you even ask that? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Which and then and then you think about it, like, yeah,
why would she even why would that report even ask
him that? Like so it's like, are you not good
at your job? He does that very well.

Speaker 7 (01:01:10):
But he's good at his job with the media because
he can just completely ignore them. If they ask a question,
he'll go fake news and that person will yell. Then
their Michael fade away and they'll move Fox. I like
you today, what's that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
That's great? He's turn the verb up on five flee Yeah. Joy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
What has been some of your now in podcasting away
from television? What has been like your biggest adjustment, like
learning curve? Like what did you learn because you're with
your part, you're more personal. I've heard you say things
that I was surprised to learn about you, like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
A word Joy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:47):
Okay, how do you think that that has affected your
following coming from television? Do you feel like you've given
too much of your real self on your podcast or
do you feel like, no, this is who I am
and if you love Joy Taylor, then you accept all
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I think when you step into a space where you're
really talking about I don't want to say sports isn't
real shit, because There's definitely been moments in my career
where I've shared really personal things through the lens of sports,
whether it's domestic violence or racism, sexism, you know, things
like that, topics that we you know, that have crossover.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
You kind of get the opportunity to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
But when you're in the podcasting space or digital show space,
to me to cut through, you've got to give people something.
So either you are you know, a fantastic interviewer, so
it's really about the guests entirely or you. And even
with that, I think I think some of the best
interviewers are I mean, obviously you know, Taylor Brooks's you know,

(01:02:53):
one of the best, if not the best, in the business,
and she has this ability to see and like meet
people where they are. And I think when you're doing
an interview or you're sharing something about yourself, it's kind
of similar where you create an energy for people. I
started in radio, and I love radio because it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Brings people in the room with you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Like the best radio shows, you feel like you know them,
you feel like you're in the room with them. And
I think podcasting because obviously you can see it. It's
a little bit different because you can see the room
that we're in, but creating an environment where people feel like, oh,
I'm listening to this person, I know someone like this person,
or I've had a conversation like this before, or I'd
like to have a conversation like this. And in order

(01:03:33):
to do that, you got to give some of yourself,
and you know, being front facing it requires a lot,
like it is kind of a performance, you know, And
if you're not gonna for me at least, if you're
not gonna give a little bit to people that are
there for you, then I don't know that it works.

(01:03:54):
So you know, there's always gonna be things that I
keep to myself because I am a really private person.
But I think you know, we have real conversations every day,
Like that's to me, like all the stuff that we
were talking about, the stuff that we were talking about
off camera, which is you guys, am missed anything. It's
it's it's the same, it's the same vibes. This is

(01:04:14):
how people really talk to each other. So that's just
that's what I wanted to do, and it's been It's
been nice to be able to like curate and talk
about the things that I want to talk about, because
I think in the sports space, calling is someone that
I really respect. In this in this vein, you people
are company for sports. Like whatever your brand is, whether
it's sports and sports and politics or it's you know,

(01:04:36):
sports and pop culture, or it's just sports. Like, people
want to come and get what they've come for.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
You want to go to the restaurant and order what
is this restaurant is supposed to serve.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
And I really respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Like if I'm doing a sports show, people want to
come here and they want to talk. They want to
hear what we're thinking about the sports news entertainment of course,
but sports. So I don't try to force in things
to the sports show that don't belong.

Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
Yeah, I mean, Colin has had his moments, Like one
of my favorite Colin moments is when he was talking
about a situation with Fox and Everything, Like I haven't
watched that entire rant anytime we're going through business shit
negotiations because I just think it's a very inspirational thing.
But yes, he keeps everything sports. Do you think a
lot that's a luxury of the sports world that they
can always hide behind that, because like with this Tyler

(01:05:26):
Perry shit for example, if we don't address it, we
get killed in the comments. There's so many things that
maybe we don't want to talk about or even really
have an opinion on, to be quite honest, but we
have to address them. Have you felt that balance is
different because sports I'd love if we could just come
in every day and we're only talking about the Knicks.
We're not really gonna offend anyone, Like I don't have

(01:05:47):
to have some other outworldly opinion that's going to offend
fifty percent of our listenership. Like it gets sometimes draining
in that way. Have you felt that at all?

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
No, because fuck everybody, I hear you on that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
And Roland also, everybody doesn't have an opinion about everything,
And I think that's where actually a lot of people
get in trouble is they give either uneducated opinions, or
force opinions, or inauthentic opinions or unenthusiastic opinions about things
that probably require a little bit of research, a little
bit of passion, a little bit of experience or asking questions.

(01:06:25):
And the Internet will make you feel sometimes like you've
got to have an opinion about everything, and you absolutely
fucking do not, because everyone doesn't have an opinion about everything. Yeah,
and just because you don't have an opinion about something
doesn't mean that you don't care, that it doesn't affect you.
We're just human beings. There's only twenty four hours in
a day. I gotta take a fucking nap. I gotta
get my nail fixed. Like I can't fix everything, think

(01:06:46):
about everything, have an opinion, share about it, and I
don't care about everything.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
So I think it's so much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Athletes run into this a lot when it comes to
like social justice issues or something that's going on in
their league or something's going on in the world. It's
like there was a time where we had this expectation
that athletes should always have an opinion about every big story,
and it's like, you want this motherfucker to score thirty
points every night and win the game and rehab and

(01:07:14):
give you thoughts on you or three real politics.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
Yeah, he came straight from high school where he didn't
go to classes junior or senior year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
He doesn't know, and that's okay too.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Maybe he And why are you looking for him?

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
What opinion do you want from him?

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
If he does have an opinion and it's educated, sure,
it's research, and he's passionate about it and it affects
him or her and they want to talk about it.
By all means, you should use your platform for that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
But absolutely, where are the leaders? Like I think that's just.

Speaker 8 (01:07:42):
People feeling like, you know, when you're a major figure
in sports or music entertainment, I think that people feel like, okay,
we you know, we've supported this artist or athlete and
you know they're well off and rich, but do they
still have that human connection? How do they feel about
these issues that affect the communities that support them?

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
So they want to hear from them?

Speaker 8 (01:08:07):
But like you said, we got to know who we asking, Like,
we shouldn't be asking Anthony Edwards how he feels about
the Israel Iran conflict.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Not unless Anthony Edwards has some real thoughts about it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
Right, There can be a area between the insane thing
of shut up and dribble, and every athlete needs to
have an opinion on every geopolitic financial situation that's happening
in our country. Right, there's a gray area, right, and
that's where I think people are missing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah, and it's you know, sometimes people walk into those
spaces by having opinions about things, and then we get
accustomed to them having an opinion about everything or having
you know, something to say about every you know, social
justice issue or everything that's going on in their league,
and they've kind of put themselves in that position. But
I understand what you're saying, Like there is this anxiety

(01:08:52):
of like, damn, I didn't talk about this, or it
seems like I'm avoiding it. Sometimes I am, and what like,
I'm going to say thoughts on that with y'all and
the end you'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
There's another place for it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
And if you don't want to return because you think
I'm being inauthentic or whatever like, that is your choice.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
You don't. I appreciate you, but you don't have to
be here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
But what I'm not about to do and I feel
very strongly about this because I think your platform is
something that you build and you have to have respect
for I'm not about to just say whatever, because I
have really strong thoughts on lots of shit.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
And it's sometimes you could get in trouble for them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
It's not even getting in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I don't need to say it, like I yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Yeah, I agree most of the things I think.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
YE don't need to be sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
And also you have to ignore the pressure of feeling
like you owe people your opinion on certain things just
because you give it so often, Like as a content creator,
podcast or whatever, we give our opinions on so much
and we start the fans make you feel like you
owe me this, Like I listen to you every day,
you owe me this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
It's like, I don't owe you my thoughts. I give
you my.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
Thoughts for free. You listen to them, you support, you,
buy merch whatever. But I do not owe you my
thoughts on anything. I don't owe you an episode.

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
I don't shut up, just shut up and talk, just
shut up and talk.

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
But I mean, and even to people that in that
very situation would probably break Like I could never even
fathom the situation the Clippers were in on a playoff
run with an owner like that, and everyone's saying like, oh,
you're anti black if you play like I've been at
this my whole life.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
This is my dream.

Speaker 7 (01:10:24):
I'm on a playoff run one old racist fuck I'm
gonna I'm gonna quit because of him, and it's not
going to change. It's not going to change the ownership
in the NBA if I quit, Like, what are you
do in that situation?

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Well, joy we have some listeners that call in. We
have a voicemail segment.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Will they call in and they ask for advice, and
being that you have your personal podcast.

Speaker 8 (01:10:45):
Was coming so they could ask Joyce, I know, I
know personal questions.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
So we're gonna see. We're gonna get your opinion on
some stuff. You're ready.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
That's you've got mail. These are sponsored by Boost. It
was good and Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
This question for baby d how long it take a
woman to get over a heartbreak? I just wanted to curious,
you know, let me know your appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
He trying to get his girl, got right to it. Yeah,
he didn't even give an ex quick.

Speaker 8 (01:11:16):
Thirteen seconds we got right. That was like, who's that Boost?
He was like, listen, how long it take you to
get a break?

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
Peace in love?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Questions for you? Well, I want your.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
Well, I want both put both of the ladies to
answer that. I want you how long that open ended question,
let's throw a baby d. How long does it take
me to get over a breakup?

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
No, not a breakup heart a heartbreak, which is so
much different. It depends on how long the heart been
breaking for real? Like was it a slow break? Hasn't
been breaking for ten years? It's been breaking for ten years?

Speaker 6 (01:11:51):
Not clocking?

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Are you not clocking? Up standing business?

Speaker 6 (01:11:54):
Are you not clocking?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Baby d?

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Yeah? At that point, that's not a heartbreak.

Speaker 7 (01:11:59):
That's a lifestyle. You you just live in that misery.
Now what you've been.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
In therapy a little bit too much? Like you don't
spread therapy. I don't like we were all we were
all doing me personally. How long does it take me
to get over a breakup?

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
A broken heart?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
A broken heart? I have to know, I'm not I'm
not going to go back. I have to know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
I have to know that the heart is really broken,
Like I can't like patch it up with taping glue,
like damn, like this is really over got to dance
and she was on it for four days, riding in bed.
If the heart has been breaking.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
More talk y'all gotta let I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
That's why I said, how long has the heart been
breaking for? Like if I go it has.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
Been dragging on it?

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
You feel like that was a yes, Like if I
knew one's coming, It's like, all right, let me be
depressed for four days. I won't eat and then I'll
lose like five pounds. I'll go out looking real skinny
and get a new nigga. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
What is this? That's the you're not jacking that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
But if it's a expected like, oh my god, this
just happened, it might take me a while because then
I need, like I need to think some things through,
like Okay, why did this happen? How did this happen?
How did I not know that this was happening? Like
I didn't expect this. Then it might take me a
couple months.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
Don't do it because we've both done the long drawn
out breakup shit before it, and then once it's cut clean,
you have to do the now it's gone breakup part.
Those are two different heartbreaks. But that's not the heart.
But that's a breakup.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
I'm talking about a heartbreak, Like my heart is broken
the situationship.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
The I'm hurt like that because you can have the breakup.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
You can have the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Breakup and the heartbreak not come till six months after
the breakup, or you could have them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
You could get your.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Heart broken and then still be in a relationship, and
then by the time the relationship's over, it's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I healed from you like months ago. I was just
waiting for this to end.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
If I can get over you in four days, you
never broke.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
But that's but that's the thing. It's not about getting what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
We have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
We have company. We have company.

Speaker 6 (01:13:59):
No joy cocked cocked. She cocked it. She saved me,
She clocked it as well as.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
What about you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Well we're talking about is grief, Yes, so because your
heart and break for a lot of different reasons. I
think he is sounds like he's asking about a relationship,
which I think everybody again is different, So I'm putting
a lot of qualifiers on this so that everyone doesn't
freak out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
I think heartbreak, I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
If it's something that like I wasn't expecting and I'm like,
oh wow, this happened and it broke my heart, that
is something that requires a full, you know, grief process
of like the shock, the anger, you know, the sadness
and like the rotting all of that. And it depends
on how you know, severe the heartbreak is. It depends
on what was at stake, like the steaks. I think

(01:14:46):
change how long it takes to get over a heartbreak, like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
If I was using her for her apartment and now
I'm on my ass.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Yeah, I mean, but that's real shit though I'm radio,
I ain't to live. Oh no, we got it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
We got to make this right. But I mean, I
think it can take you. I can think it can
take years to get over a real heartbreak. You know,
it can be a long process, like if you really
like when I think about the times, like my heart's
been broken, like not sad, not uh, you know, disappointed,
Like a heartbreak is a real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
You can die from a broken heart. So it takes time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
And I think you have to be really gentle with
yourself too, because we want to go outside. But that's
a that's a part of the grieving process, right.

Speaker 7 (01:15:37):
It's like there is there is no actually think what
you're saying is important because there is no like it's
a week, it's what you do after the heartbreak, that
will probably increase the time of feeling happier if you
do in a.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Positive way, Like I've tried to fuck through the pain before.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
And I just you said you tried to fuck through
the pain absolutely like I've been heartbroken. Then just try
to fuck a bunch of chicks like this will make
me feel better felt worse. Things that you do after
that will make that time less if you do them
in a positive way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
The biggest thing though, is time. Yeah, Like time is
the only thing that heals those type of wounds.

Speaker 8 (01:16:10):
It's time. And then you got to get to that
point where you start breaking down your partner, like bitch,
you're really ugly for real life.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
That's me, that's see, that's not you not over it?
You ain't.

Speaker 8 (01:16:18):
You got to get to that like y, I ain't
even really like like the way you dress like you?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
I mean, what is it?

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. So when
you when you reach the point that you don't feel anything,
that's when I think you're you're over it. Like the
time broke in my heart where I can think about
it and I don't feel anything about them, I don't
feel anger towards them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I don't forgive them, to be clear, but I don't
feel anything about it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
That to me is when you're when you're over it.
And then there's also the is that not a bad thing? Though?
What do you mean?

Speaker 8 (01:16:50):
Because like I remember dating a girl and it was
like it ended, and I remember feeling like, damn, did
I ever really like love.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
And care about it? Because I that feeling was like
I was like, well, I guess it didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I think it depends on what the love was. Like
a lot of us, I'll speak to myself. I think
we attach anxiety, feelings of anxiety or toxicity with love.
And if you have your heart broken by somebody like that,
if you don't feel that thing, you start to think like, oh,

(01:17:25):
like did I love them? Because I know they didn't
love me, because they didn't treat me like they loved me.
But it seems like this person loves me but doesn't
I don't feel as much of the spark or whatever
that's the butterflies that we create in our mind. So
I think it's important to remember where you were. Like,
as I get older, I I'm so much gentler to

(01:17:46):
my younger self than I used to be, because you
can only make the decision that you have with the
information that you have at that time.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Yeah, and even.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
If you knew you were making a bad decision in
that moment, you may not have known how bad of
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gentle with where you were. Like you're saying, like you
feel like you didn't love her, Yeah, you did, but
your body heals your emotions, heal your mind, heals like

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Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
We have to. We have to remember. It's why when
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Not had the best experience with, we're like, damn you
was funny though, because your mind had to soften that
experience to survive. You can't just live in the trauma
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How for a while, how would you think it would
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Speaker 8 (01:19:59):
Because you probably more open and honest on your podcast
than you are on television about your personal you know
life and yeah in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
In in my real life, like you're gonna get joy.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
No, I get that part.

Speaker 8 (01:20:14):
But on Tandra, but like because US US podcasting, we
speak about how like you meet people and you know
they may have heard your pocket or they see clips
of your podcast. They hear you say something, and then
they make this preconceived notion about the type of person
that you may be.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Oh, I don't date little boys, so I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I can't even I can't even imagine, Like there's certain
conversations I couldn't even imagine having, like, oh I saw
this on your podcast, so like is that how you
really feel?

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Imagine a decade of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
What it happened, happens. I can't even imagine this conversation.
I cannot imagine the worst man having this conversation with me.

Speaker 8 (01:20:57):
Listen, it's worse when you know people right say you
dated somebody and you know them before podcasting, and now
you have a podcast and then they hear you say
something to your podcast and bring it to you in
real life and actually like the relationship would really change
between y'all, like your parents.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Well that's it, but that that happens it just like, Yo,
you know me for real? Like what's wrong with you?
Like and it's like it's a real like I'm not
you said that, like that's how or I didn't know
that's what? Like you've know you know me, we've known
each other ten fifteen years. What are you talking about?
Like that? That happens Like people will hear something they
had clip and be like have.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
You had the sister?

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Yes, I've had someone I was living with questioning me
about things that happen on a podcast. I'm like, I'm like,
you know, you know what, you know everything about me?
Why are you questioning me about something I'm talking about
on a damn podcast?

Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
And usually it comes from selfish reasons of they feel
that someone else is going to ask them about it,
not what you said. It's that, oh, someone may hear
my friend about.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
Something like Yo, what's up with your yeah? Man? Like
he on you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
It sounds like they want a man with a different
and woman with a different occupation.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
That's the worst.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
That's very important saying something and that's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:22:12):
It can be an adjustment like that's because they're dating
a man with a different sex. By birds, where did you.

Speaker 7 (01:22:20):
That's why I said I saw the worst is actually
when you meet people that you've already had this gig,
like I met you this way, Sorry, why are you
even question me on this ship? I actually understand more
of what Maul was saying. And people that knew you
before podcasting and are adjusting with you of like saying
personal things that the world may have not known. Not
anything crazy, But people that you meet when you were
already in media and have the nerve to say anything

(01:22:42):
are the ones that blow my fucking mind. Like you
met me right like what do you I'm gonna stop
doing this because you showed up, you came.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Across like my clip. That's how you slided my DMS.
I don't know why you would think that. And I
was saying, wow ship you laughed back then. Now it's
not funny.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Yeah, this is we have.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
How many what to knock on? But this has not
happened to me yet. I don't know that it's ever
happened to me in my career.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
But yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
I mean, that's just not I don't think that's a
conversation I would entertain.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Like I'm almost forty years old.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Way I'm talking about guess what, like I don't like,
I'm just not talking like like, what I love for
you is that you are still on your journey because
I'm not your person and you are going to find
the person that fulfills you and makes you confident.

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
Don't tell me. I don't tell me what journey. I
tell my journey journey.

Speaker 9 (01:23:41):
What I know you're not you know what You're on
your journey.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
I'm not on the journey. I'm not dinner And there's
where you that's it. You got, this is where you
get off.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
But to be fair, Joy doesn't say the wild ship
that we we say really wild things is.

Speaker 7 (01:23:58):
A little more calm unless they're like really dealers saying
I man, But I mean yes, it can lead to heartbreak,
which you know leaves the void that I feel like
only Jesus Christ can feel.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
It's true, he is he is here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Wow, that was that was callback Kevin. What great full
circle moment. That's also a part of where we're on
different paths, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Oh yeah, we didn't give the guy and his advice.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
I think he's I think he's trying to figure out
how long his girl is trying to get over him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
But no, I think we gave him a good advice.
We don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
It depends on what happened, What did you do, what
did you do? What did you do to it happened?
What did you do?

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
What did you do?

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
Or maybe he's the new guy. He wait for her
to get over older. Don't do that, that's my advice.

Speaker 7 (01:24:41):
That's yeah, because he didn't add any context. I felt
like he was waiting on a chick.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
That was right there. That's what I thought the whole
ship was.

Speaker 8 (01:24:48):
Sometimes you bet that nigga. You'd be like yo, like Yo,
that nigga's whack. You got me waiting like Yo, what
fuck that nigga? Man, I'm trying to go to turch
from all what we're doing that you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Don't be that person, do not be the next don't
breath the heartbreak person.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
It's not going to work out.

Speaker 8 (01:25:03):
Yeah, don't be the heartbreak, don't bring the heartbreak killer,
don't be the reader.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
Don't be Sam Rothstein unless you never be Sam Roastin.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Unless Ginger is always going to go. She was a
whole boy was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Unless you're unless you're comfortable with not ever getting a
full version of that person.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
Yeah. Yeah, But Jeorge. Sometimes you just want to go
to Turks.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Though, That's what I'm saying, Like, go to Turks by
all means go to Turks, but don't go with expectations.

Speaker 8 (01:25:31):
With expectations, yes, okay, because the pictures you take.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
She gonna send to him and say, look what you're
missing out on. Hey, look allegedly I've never done it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:38):
Y'all be playing it. Y'all be playing a dangerous game.
Made my pictures.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
We played different games than then y'all play.

Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
Oh yeah'll games are wayt sick because y'all like to
play with.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
Y'all like to go all the way, like y'all see
death and y'all like to look at it, whereas we know,
like we don't want.

Speaker 6 (01:25:56):
To go to jail.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
I don't want to go to jail either.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
Do you want to go to the cemetery.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
When it's when it's time, what time it is, we're
all gonna end up there one day.

Speaker 8 (01:26:07):
No, But I'm just saying you playing with like when
like the marriage just said, I take you on vacation,
you taking pictures.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
I'm taking pictures.

Speaker 8 (01:26:14):
I'm the photographer, and you sending the pictures that I
took of you, to your ex.

Speaker 7 (01:26:19):
And when the international waters why y'all laughing at I'm
mad at y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
Even laughing that. That was not even it's not even funny.
That was not any of joke like that about. I
think we're trying to have a serious conversation. You guys
are laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Did we still have fun in Turks? Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:26:33):
We had a fun.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
This is why. What you don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
First of all, the photographer owns the photos.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
That's my I P.

Speaker 9 (01:26:41):
I don't care if you in the photo. I own
that motherfucking photo. Speak without speaking, this is what just happened.
Oh no, I know y'all. Can I know y'all spoke
and I heard it. But when I'm saying, yeah, it
was very loud.

Speaker 8 (01:26:52):
But it's just like, because we can't do that as niggas,
we can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Do stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:59):
I can't saying and send it to my ex. That
ain't fly.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Why would you send them picture of your feet?

Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
So she knows where I'm at toes in the sin.
If he X cared about you, she'd know where he
was at. The fact that you gotta tell her she's
over here.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
She gonna see that coach line and be like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
I watch that. Why do you men? Why do you
have to be crazy for men to feel like you
care about them?

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
Mommy issues.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Oh I don't feel like that. I don't. I don't.
I don't think crazy all the time they ask you
you never had a girl. I never had it. I
never had a fight with a girl, never like nothing
crazy like I've never experienced that type of relationship.

Speaker 8 (01:27:32):
Never strict, not that I'm strict, it's just that this
is what it is and this is what it ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Yeah, but we can.

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
We gonna have a We're gonna have.

Speaker 7 (01:27:39):
Fun notion after Labor Day. And that's his, that's his.
So Nate, he's breaking up.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
No, that's that's stupid. I'm not that guy.

Speaker 8 (01:27:45):
But I just don't because I think, you know, when
it's getting to that toxic point where it's like disrespects
coming in and like we just saw that the couple
that he killed her after he got off live. He
killed his girl and the cops are chasing him and
he killed this So it's like.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
A little more excessive than I think.

Speaker 8 (01:28:02):
But if you look at what I'm saying, but if
you look at the IG live, they're arguing it looks
like it's playful.

Speaker 6 (01:28:07):
It's something.

Speaker 8 (01:28:08):
According to the comments, this is what they always did,
like they get on each other's lives. So I told
sh like, yeah, I call him cheating that he.

Speaker 6 (01:28:15):
Mad, Yeah, you fuck that. Nigga Da da da da.
I ain't never touched, no nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
It was that's relationship domestic violence and extreme abuse or
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
Murder suicide exists. But that's like really, But what I'm
saying is what I'm saying, is it starts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
No, You're absolutely right, it does.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
And I'm talking about sort of the like more the
more gentle version of this.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
Yeah, not the starter kit for dragging on a relationship
of two people that shouldn't be together type of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
Many times I called you fifty times private?

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, that's that that's never heard.

Speaker 7 (01:28:50):
Yeah, I've always want to do women not like I know,
women think we're dumb sometimes, But why is this like
the private fifty times?

Speaker 6 (01:28:57):
Oh I'm going to answer the thirty ninth one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
You've got someone call you fifty times, good for you.

Speaker 7 (01:29:04):
And even after like the fifty never you got it's good.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
Yeah, no, no, no, baby, we can't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Baby, can't ask you if it's good. I was giving
I was giving up like a Tyler.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
Perry and text, Yeah, that's nasty, calling some wax shit
fifty times it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:29:27):
Calling with your number getting blocked, and then calling from
your homegirls number that I know blocked, and then a
private number like I'm not going to understand that you
went to answer inventially.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
A lot of that be ego too.

Speaker 8 (01:29:38):
A couple days later, though, y'all want the last little
get off, like y'all need that, like if the man
got the last get off in the hole, back and
forth and block and all of that. Sometimes almost ego like, na,
he can't just yeah back.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
In my talks, back in my toxic days, my ego
is the most important thing. So once I know I've lost,
like the love the ego, I gotta protect the ego. Yes,
because I can't go outside like this even though no
one's watching, but God, but.

Speaker 6 (01:30:02):
I am sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
But what I'm not about to do is I'm not.
I'm not. I can't because let me go to this goal.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I have a lot of pride, So there's just certain
things like it doesn't matter what the fuck I want
to do, you are not catching me outside acting like
that absolutely not.

Speaker 6 (01:30:21):
So has not affect the joy.

Speaker 7 (01:30:24):
Pride can turn on you in that way too, though,
because pride can be good in that instance of like
I'm not even dealing with this shit.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
I got too much pride to do with the psycho.

Speaker 7 (01:30:30):
Also, pride can be I'm not letting this psycho get
one up on over me.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
I let's go play in the mud.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Yeah, no, no, no, you don't want to play in the mud.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
You have to determine what the what the stakes are,
and what the win is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Like in any situation, you should ask yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
What's the win here? Like worst case scenario, this best
case scenario. That worst case scenario is pretty bad. It's
probably for the best that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
You just leave that alone.

Speaker 5 (01:30:53):
Yeah, or sing gospel yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
I Instagram Yeah, I mean I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
I hope you guys aren't speaking this over me, because
that's gonna be a really ear tating conversation because the
last time this happened was actually happened with the podcast,
because we were talking about this god awful splitting the
bill conversation which.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
We will never be free of, we will never be
to lose shackles.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
I had never experienced it, like I still haven't experienced
it myself, but I like didn't even know this was
like a real thing.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
Split the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Yeah, I mean it's just me since I don't know's
he's still confused. It still is very confusing to me,
like it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 6 (01:31:29):
But niggas is stumbling to pick that check up with
Joey like, yo, I got got gott.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
It's unimaginable.

Speaker 8 (01:31:35):
Have you ever have you ever reached like Pump fake
reached for the bill.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
For us for a like very clear date.

Speaker 8 (01:31:40):
Yeah, No, never even pump fake for what just to
see just to kind of test where he was at.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
No, for a date. No, I've done it in my relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
And then like when you're in a relations we're not
talking about in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
I'm talking about like you or.

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
Like you said, let's go to dinner tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
I want to take you to dinner.

Speaker 6 (01:31:59):
And then you think we're splitting the bill.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
They're slitting the bill.

Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
Yeah, No, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Because also it's like if I, like say, I was
like yeo, like I want to talk to you guys
about like some business shit.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Let's like go to dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
I asked you, like I'm going to pay for it
and write it off obviously, but like.

Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
Because they'll do that and still expect us to pick
up the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
And you no, no, no, no, no, one's raised right, But
I don't want get too splaining the bill coversations.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
I just couldn't believe it was like a real thing
that people were I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Got the house are doing oh yeah, And it happened
to my girlfriend and I told a story on the podcast,
and people still bring the shit up to me, like
people still bring it up to me. A young man
walked up to me at an event and he was like,
you know, I got to ask you, like, are you
serious about the splitting the bill conversation? And I was like,
can I just have a follow up before I answer you?
Like how old are you? And he was like, I'm

(01:32:47):
twenty four? I said, baby, I'm I'm thirty eight years old. Yeah,
be worried about nothing I'm doing. Like, with all due respect,
you have so much more life to live you and
I will never be in that situation. I wouldn't do
that to you now unless but he should also, I'm tricking,
for which I'm out of the business of doing so.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
Used to trick the frying woman be tricking. I'll be
trying to tell y'all Joy was tricking. Joy cut the ship, Like,
how I missed this?

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
You tricked so much.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
Tricks.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Wow, I'm retired. I will not be doing that no more.
But yeah, for sure it's fun.

Speaker 6 (01:33:25):
What's the most expensive? Yeah, but what's the tricking?

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
And what's the most two part question? What's the most
expensive item you bought? And then what's the most amount
of just cash or wire that you gave?

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
Joy? Ain't never wiring no nigga, no money. I'm not.
I'm not buying that, Joy, it was your own management.

Speaker 8 (01:33:44):
Joey, you wired a man money before haircut money.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
Or like wiring a nigga haircut money as.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Cute like cute?

Speaker 7 (01:33:52):
You can't how why are you talking like that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
Was officially? Are or do you like pay.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
For a wire like I sent a wire today?

Speaker 7 (01:34:03):
I have to pay for a wire when you hit
a high certain amount of money? Yeah, yeah, okay, but
any type of exchange of fact.

Speaker 8 (01:34:10):
I just know that lets you know where she's playing at. Joey,
how much money have you sent the man before?

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
I mean, this isn't really fair, like in a relationshipship,
in a relationship off the rip, off the rip, because
off the rip I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:34:23):
Do Okay, okay, all right, can any trick in a relationship?
Women can men can't explain? Wait, let joy because this
is a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Joy, you to let me, let me, let me say this.
I'm exaggerating the trick part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
Okay, okay, these are these are black magic ca.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
So if you like, if you are like support someone,
is that tricking? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Okay, then yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:34:52):
Guilty support like pay rent? Yeah you pay Hall of
fame trick?

Speaker 7 (01:34:58):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:35:00):
You paid a man's rent before that's first ballot, like consistently,
like the person that has their speech ready before they
get Yoda this month.

Speaker 6 (01:35:07):
I ain't got a joy yo. My my check coming
the next month. Baby? Can you hold me down? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Well, I am through the mattress he was putting. I'm
trying to way around there, dude, this account if you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:23):
Live there, Okay, that's tricky, that's tricky for the trick.

Speaker 6 (01:35:28):
Yeah, no, if you live.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
If you live there, does account if you paid the
whole rent, they don't know count No, But but that's
your girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
What do you mean it's not my boyfriend?

Speaker 6 (01:35:41):
Hell?

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
Oh yeah, well did he like cook, take care of
the kids. Like you know what's like, I don't have
not one child.

Speaker 6 (01:35:48):
I don't have nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
You have a child earn his keep? Yes he did, Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
Don't know if that's trick and per se and what's
your key?

Speaker 7 (01:36:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
No, no, like I've I've I've definitely I've definitely tricked before.
But you know, like this is why, like the dynamics
of a relationship are so complicated, like what what a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Woman should do, what a man should do.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
That's why the splitting the bill conversation is so funny
to me because I'm like you guys are everything is
an absolute on the internet.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
I will not pay for a first day like.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
The saying that or the one's doing it right, like
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
It's not even about like principle of like I'm a woman,
I shall not pay.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
It's like I'm a.

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
Busy person circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
I take myself to rich Auntie Mastros dinners when I
want to. So if you were going to come to
me and ask me for a night of my life,
like when you think about the times that you've spent
with people, like you gave them a day of your life,
that's fucking crazy. Like one day you'll be on your
deathbed hopefully and you'll be looking back like, damn, that
motherfucker got.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Eight hours from me. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
I could use that right now, Like that's how I
look at times. So if I'm going to have a
dinner with you, like I'm gonna sit across from you,
listen to you, and you have asked me to do this,
I think it's respectful that you pay for it. Now,
if you're twenty one years old and you guys are
just starting dating, you're just starting your careers, Like that's
a different conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:37:13):
You know, you're talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Who has like businesses and three full time jobs and
an assistant, Like, no, what do you mean why would
I be Why would I pay for you to eat food?
I could have just uber eats and filled them and
watched my bland Like that's not This is not a
good use of my time. And I just think it's
more about respect than anything else. It's not even about
like gender roles.

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
Yeah, no, it makes sense, and you're definitely talking to
the wrong people because we definitely believe in men paying
for dates.

Speaker 6 (01:37:42):
So they paid for my food.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Shit, that's they should.

Speaker 7 (01:37:45):
Yeah, I never understood why that was even like a
conversation or debate on Twitter, like.

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
But I think it's just started founding like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Other people even when I was broke up, that's but
that's okay, it's okay. Yeah, I've been broke, We've all
been broke. But if you are broke, why are you?

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Why are you bothering?

Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
Why are you hungry?

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Hungry is understandable, but why worried about me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
And like this, I wasn't worried about paying for other
people's food.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Or not paying for food when I was when I
was broke.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I think it's in general though, like I I feel
like this is a little bit of a callback to
I just I need to feel feminine, you know, like
I just just there's not a whole lot men can.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Do for me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
I always say, like all a man can do for
me is love me. That doesn't require money. Like, it's
about intentionality. So it's really not about like are we
going to the nicest restaurant, which is nice and I appreciate,
Like I don't know how much.

Speaker 6 (01:38:39):
Good hood spots too though, yeah, or that too, but.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
Like that too, like take me somewhere that is intentional
like this is a spot.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
I like like whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
Into her work. Yeah, you like fhmp shrimp, just the
best frist shrimp in the right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
That sounds like that sounds like actually a more interesting
time than going to a super expensive restaurant.

Speaker 6 (01:38:58):
Are you good in that? Because we might not kicking
that out first wives, we.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Might not get out of It's like little survival to.

Speaker 6 (01:39:05):
Keep the call, keeping the call run. You might not
get it. Took me to your oppos hood to get shrimp.

Speaker 5 (01:39:10):
Yeah, your journey.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
There's a lot of like gender wars going on.

Speaker 6 (01:39:15):
Right, they get clicks, but I gets stupid.

Speaker 7 (01:39:19):
Before we let you go, I want to ask, because
I have never been tricked on.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
Outside of what Demara said as far as the mattress,
I don't want to get in that world.

Speaker 7 (01:39:26):
How do I approach a woman and to ask her
how to trick on me phone calls?

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
I don't know anything about that.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
She wasn't tricking on me.

Speaker 5 (01:39:33):
She was probably probably needed some money.

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
They always do.

Speaker 7 (01:39:38):
How do I get a woman? How do I approach
a woman in the tricking situation?

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
So you want to you want a trick?

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
I've never been tricked on? Crazy questions So you want
to trick but you ain't see this quest.

Speaker 7 (01:39:49):
So you want to because I'm not a trick, at
least by my standards. Wait, I don't think I'm a trick,
but I do pay four things. Whether you want to
be tricked on or you want to be a trick,
I don't want to be a t I've girl a
trick on me. It's never happened. Oh how do I
go about doing that?

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
The show?

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
You don't have the survival of anxiety to to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
To go through the mental gymnastics accepting you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
I don't think you're built for it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:14):
Oh yeah, No, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
You don't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
I don't want to be degraded.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
Yeah you don't. It's not all being degraded.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
You don't like being bothered enough first, like you wouldn't
be able to give what was necessary for someone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
There's a certain level of like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Humility, okay, required for what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
We can leave it at that, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Just anything that's a gentle way of saying it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
Yeah, Joy, Please can tell everybody the name of your
podcast and where they can listen to it?

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Too personal.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
You can subscribe on YouTube and all the crazy platforms
and follow that to personal show and we do we
do a voicemail or advice segment to Never Too Personal,
which is really fun. Actually, our episode this week is
with Clarsa Shields. She's amazing, the champ. She was great,

(01:41:03):
so love talking to her.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
And I'm gonna call voice me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
How we aint gonna knows you?

Speaker 6 (01:41:11):
I would say we was you live on as a pod?

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
You change change you voice? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
And you can watch Speak on FS one weekdays with
myself and Keishon Johnson and Paul Pierce.

Speaker 8 (01:41:20):
We have a good time shouting poor piss Did he
actually walk all the way to work after he lost
a bit?

Speaker 6 (01:41:24):
You did? No? I need to see the go pro footage. Yeah,
I don't believe it. I don't believe stop, I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
I tried to warn him. I tried to talk him
out a bit.

Speaker 6 (01:41:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
I was like, you are You're not do it for
the series?

Speaker 6 (01:41:38):
Like yeah, yeah, not for a game?

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
Yeah he was, And he chose the forces to which
is the wildest choice.

Speaker 8 (01:41:44):
Yeah, shout out the poor pissed how many miles that
It wasn't that a long lock?

Speaker 6 (01:41:48):
It was like what nineteen miles long, lock it forces.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
I know they was creased.

Speaker 8 (01:41:54):
This fineteen miles is crazy, but work walking nineteen miles.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Work, yeah, long it was. It was a it was
a long day.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
And you got a Tommy because you got to get
there on tom.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
Remember back with your grandparents. She's like, day, y'all't got
school today. I walk nineteen.

Speaker 8 (01:42:08):
Miles, nineteen miles, Like I seen where your school was at.
You just had to gm oway here, not even n.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
The new forces, like you know, they sound like the
distress forces, which breaks my spirit as Yeah, that's crazy, disgusting.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
Nasty world. But this was great. Thank you so so much.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
Thank you, Joy glad we finally we turned small talking
to big talk.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
We did apologize, although it sounds like you guys are
used to doing with the comment section.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Oh being fired up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
So man, that's if ided decade in Yeah me, I
don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:42:45):
Yeah, I love it. Shout out to Joy tailor Joy.
Thank you once again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Thank you guys, Thank you, there's.

Speaker 6 (01:42:50):
Been a pleasure talking to your backs.

Speaker 8 (01:42:51):
Stards'll be back soon, be safe, be blessed.

Speaker 6 (01:42:54):
I'm that nigga. He's just ginger peace. No

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